[Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Jamielynn Storch
Hi!  I am a foster mom for a high kill shelter in Philly.  I am fostering
my 3rd litter which was my first litter of bottle feeders.  I've spent the
past 24 hours researching like crazy online and trying to talk to others
with experience but really getting a lot of contradicting information.

The background:
I pulled this litter from the shelter about 5 weeks ago as borderline
bottle feeders.  They were dumped on a doorstep in a box and brought to the
shelter.  Apparently there were 2 additional dropped off a day later that
they assume was from the same litter but they were euthanized due to
space/kitten season.  When I brought them home they were all around
.65lbs.  Two of them were eating wet food and 1 refused it.  I ended up
having to bottle feed the 1 for 3 weeks before being able to wean him
completely.  All 3 have been active, healthy and playful.  No signs of
illness.  Gaining weight steadily..actually faster than any of my previous
litters.
Today I dropped them off to be spayed and neutered.  My biggest boy weighed
2.6lbs, girl 2.2lbs and than my smallest boy who was the bottle feeder the
longest came in at just about 2lbs.  I got a call this afternoon that the
Feline Leukemia test came back positive.  They only tested 1 at the time so
I brought them right to the clinic when I picked them up and they tested a
2nd one who also tested positive.
At this point they have been completely unhelpful in giving me any info or
reassurance.  The only good thing I got out of them was that they did tell
me that they have a rescue that specifically pulls FIV/FELV+ cats and if my
cats didnt flip they would be able to place them in the rescue.  That
rescue claims they have a 90-95% flip rate of FELV/FIV+ kittens they pull
under the age of 12 weeks...but they are grouping FELV and FIV together and
I honestly have no idea how many kittens they have pulled to create this
statistic for themselves (it could be 2 litters or hundreds)...they claim I
have a high chance of my kittens still flipping negative.

I have/had adopters lined up for all 3 kittens.  I have contacted them
all.  One is going to look for another kitten.  Two have actually requested
to wait..one is willing to wait as long as it takes to see if he will
flip...even if it takes 6 months.

For the past week I had given the kittens much more freedom in my house.  I
know for a fact they drank from my 2 resident cats water dishes.  I also
caught my 1 resident cat sneak into the kitten room and eating from their
dish.  So they have been exposed.

My main questions really are about the possibility of them flipping.  I
cant seem to get any kind of consistent answer on this.  I have tons of
other foster parents that keep reassuring me that the chances of them
flipping to negative and just that they tested positive bc they are too
young to have an accurate test and than looking online or talking with some
others make it sound like the chance is higher of a flip if it was FIV not
FELV. So what are the chances of them flipping?  Am I setting myself (and
the potential adopters) up with false hope thinkng there could be a
reasonable chance of them flipping to negative?  Do I just keep testing
every month for 6 months?

They did the quick snap test.  Should I continue to do that test or at what
point should I request or bring to my own vet to have another type of test
done?

If they flip to negative- does that really mean they are in the clear and
its safe for them to be adopted into a home with other cats?

Someone is suggesting that I take my resident cats in and have them FELV
vaccinated immediately even though they were already exposed...should I do
this?  I had called my vet and they told me to bring my cats in 2 months to
be tested for FELV.

So much mixed information has been given to me Im just so emotionally
drained and confused on my next steps.  I've grown to love these kittens
very much but Im in no position to make them permanent resident cats here
for long term. At the most I think I could consider hanging onto the boy
Henry who has the adopter willing to wait for him for the 6 months to see
if he flips negative if its worth waiting that long.  I just dont know at
what point to turn them over to the FELV rescue.  I hate to dump them but
I feel like if they truly are positive I cant provide them with what they
need so the rescue specific for FELV is the best for them..but I dont want
to put them there and have them placed in foster care with other FELV cats
to have them just flip to negative but now be infected bc of exposure to
other positive cats.  I want to know they are truly positive before making
that choice.

Thanks again.  I really appreciate any information or suggestions.  Sadly
the shelter is not offering me a lot of support or advice and at the clinic
I felt the vet tech had no idea what she was talking about.

-- 
Jamielynn  Storch
www.jlynnphotographyonline.com
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Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO

I wish I could you give you something more definite - but the truth is you just 
don't know - I know of many people whose kittens became negative later on, but 
also know many who remained positive.
I have one felk kitty, Ginger, I have had her since she was 6 months old - now 
she is 8 years old and doing very well - 
 
One suggestion, if you can afford it - I would recommend LTCI on the kittens as 
some of the users of LTCI, their kittens became negative - I can't be sure if 
it's because of it or just a coincidnece - but my Felk kittens did really well 
on LTCI -
 



Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:07:50 -0400
From: jlsphotograp...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

Hi!  I am a foster mom for a high kill shelter in Philly.  I am fostering my 
3rd litter which was my first litter of bottle feeders.  I've spent the past 24 
hours researching like crazy online and trying to talk to others with 
experience but really getting a lot of contradicting information.  

The background:
I pulled this litter from the shelter about 5 weeks ago as borderline bottle 
feeders.  They were dumped on a doorstep in a box and brought to the shelter.  
Apparently there were 2 additional dropped off a day later that they assume was 
from the same litter but they were euthanized due to space/kitten season.  When 
I brought them home they were all around .65lbs.  Two of them were eating wet 
food and 1 refused it.  I ended up having to bottle feed the 1 for 3 weeks 
before being able to wean him completely.  All 3 have been active, healthy and 
playful.  No signs of illness.  Gaining weight steadily..actually faster than 
any of my previous litters. 
Today I dropped them off to be spayed and neutered.  My biggest boy weighed 
2.6lbs, girl 2.2lbs and than my smallest boy who was the bottle feeder the 
longest came in at just about 2lbs.  I got a call this afternoon that the 
Feline Leukemia test came back positive.  They only tested 1 at the time so I 
brought them right to the clinic when I picked them up and they tested a 2nd 
one who also tested positive.  
At this point they have been completely unhelpful in giving me any info or 
reassurance.  The only good thing I got out of them was that they did tell me 
that they have a rescue that specifically pulls FIV/FELV+ cats and if my cats 
didnt flip they would be able to place them in the rescue.  That rescue 
claims they have a 90-95% flip rate of FELV/FIV+ kittens they pull under the 
age of 12 weeks...but they are grouping FELV and FIV together and I honestly 
have no idea how many kittens they have pulled to create this statistic for 
themselves (it could be 2 litters or hundreds)...they claim I have a high 
chance of my kittens still flipping negative.

I have/had adopters lined up for all 3 kittens.  I have contacted them all.  
One is going to look for another kitten.  Two have actually requested to 
wait..one is willing to wait as long as it takes to see if he will 
flip...even if it takes 6 months.  

For the past week I had given the kittens much more freedom in my house.  I 
know for a fact they drank from my 2 resident cats water dishes.  I also caught 
my 1 resident cat sneak into the kitten room and eating from their dish.  So 
they have been exposed. 

My main questions really are about the possibility of them flipping.  I cant 
seem to get any kind of consistent answer on this.  I have tons of other foster 
parents that keep reassuring me that the chances of them flipping to negative 
and just that they tested positive bc they are too young to have an accurate 
test and than looking online or talking with some others make it sound like the 
chance is higher of a flip if it was FIV not FELV. So what are the chances of 
them flipping?  Am I setting myself (and the potential adopters) up with false 
hope thinkng there could be a reasonable chance of them flipping to negative?  
Do I just keep testing every month for 6 months? 

They did the quick snap test.  Should I continue to do that test or at what 
point should I request or bring to my own vet to have another type of test 
done?  

If they flip to negative- does that really mean they are in the clear and its 
safe for them to be adopted into a home with other cats? 

Someone is suggesting that I take my resident cats in and have them FELV 
vaccinated immediately even though they were already exposed...should I do 
this?  I had called my vet and they told me to bring my cats in 2 months to be 
tested for FELV. 

So much mixed information has been given to me Im just so emotionally drained 
and confused on my next steps.  I've grown to love these kittens very much but 
Im in no position to make them permanent resident cats here for long term. At 
the most I think I could consider hanging onto the boy Henry who has the 
adopter willing to wait for him for the 6 months to see if he flips negative if 
its worth waiting that long.  I just

Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Jamielynn Storch
Thanks so much for the quick reply.  What is LTCI and where would I go to
get it?  I'm sure the shelter wouldnt cover it but I have a big network of
supportive volunteer friends who I believe would step up and help out if I
asked for help covering something financially that could help them.  I want
to do what is best for them but personally dont have the funds to cover it
myself with 2 cats and 2 dogs of my own.  But I think I could pull
something together if its not completely outrageous and seems like
something I should really give a shot.


---

I wish I could you give you something more definite - but the truth is
you just don't know - I know of many people whose kittens became
negative later on, but also know many who remained positive.
I have one felk kitty, Ginger, I have had her since she was 6 months
old - now she is 8 years old and doing very well -

One suggestion, if you can afford it - I would recommend LTCI on the
kittens as some of the users of LTCI, their kittens became negative -
I can't be sure if it's because of it or just a coincidnece - but my
Felk kittens did really well on LTCI -


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi!  I am a foster mom for a high kill shelter in Philly.  I am fostering
 my 3rd litter which was my first litter of bottle feeders.  I've spent the
 past 24 hours researching like crazy online and trying to talk to others
 with experience but really getting a lot of contradicting information.

 The background:
 I pulled this litter from the shelter about 5 weeks ago as borderline
 bottle feeders.  They were dumped on a doorstep in a box and brought to the
 shelter.  Apparently there were 2 additional dropped off a day later that
 they assume was from the same litter but they were euthanized due to
 space/kitten season.  When I brought them home they were all around
 .65lbs.  Two of them were eating wet food and 1 refused it.  I ended up
 having to bottle feed the 1 for 3 weeks before being able to wean him
 completely.  All 3 have been active, healthy and playful.  No signs of
 illness.  Gaining weight steadily..actually faster than any of my previous
 litters.
 Today I dropped them off to be spayed and neutered.  My biggest boy
 weighed 2.6lbs, girl 2.2lbs and than my smallest boy who was the bottle
 feeder the longest came in at just about 2lbs.  I got a call this afternoon
 that the Feline Leukemia test came back positive.  They only tested 1 at
 the time so I brought them right to the clinic when I picked them up and
 they tested a 2nd one who also tested positive.
 At this point they have been completely unhelpful in giving me any info or
 reassurance.  The only good thing I got out of them was that they did tell
 me that they have a rescue that specifically pulls FIV/FELV+ cats and if my
 cats didnt flip they would be able to place them in the rescue.  That
 rescue claims they have a 90-95% flip rate of FELV/FIV+ kittens they pull
 under the age of 12 weeks...but they are grouping FELV and FIV together and
 I honestly have no idea how many kittens they have pulled to create this
 statistic for themselves (it could be 2 litters or hundreds)...they claim I
 have a high chance of my kittens still flipping negative.

 I have/had adopters lined up for all 3 kittens.  I have contacted them
 all.  One is going to look for another kitten.  Two have actually requested
 to wait..one is willing to wait as long as it takes to see if he will
 flip...even if it takes 6 months.

 For the past week I had given the kittens much more freedom in my house.
 I know for a fact they drank from my 2 resident cats water dishes.  I also
 caught my 1 resident cat sneak into the kitten room and eating from their
 dish.  So they have been exposed.

 My main questions really are about the possibility of them flipping.  I
 cant seem to get any kind of consistent answer on this.  I have tons of
 other foster parents that keep reassuring me that the chances of them
 flipping to negative and just that they tested positive bc they are too
 young to have an accurate test and than looking online or talking with some
 others make it sound like the chance is higher of a flip if it was FIV not
 FELV. So what are the chances of them flipping?  Am I setting myself (and
 the potential adopters) up with false hope thinkng there could be a
 reasonable chance of them flipping to negative?  Do I just keep testing
 every month for 6 months?

 They did the quick snap test.  Should I continue to do that test or at
 what point should I request or bring to my own vet to have another type of
 test done?

 If they flip to negative- does that really mean they are in the clear and
 its safe for them to be adopted into a home with other cats?

 Someone is suggesting that I take my resident cats in and have them FELV
 vaccinated immediately even though they were already exposed...should I do
 this?  I had called my vet and they told me to bring my cats 

Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Jamielynn Storch
PS- I dont know if this link will work but here is the album of photos of
my sweet foster babies.  Gerty, Jean and Henry.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.595079365376.2048530.135501135type=3

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi!  I am a foster mom for a high kill shelter in Philly.  I am fostering
 my 3rd litter which was my first litter of bottle feeders.  I've spent the
 past 24 hours researching like crazy online and trying to talk to others
 with experience but really getting a lot of contradicting information.

 The background:
 I pulled this litter from the shelter about 5 weeks ago as borderline
 bottle feeders.  They were dumped on a doorstep in a box and brought to the
 shelter.  Apparently there were 2 additional dropped off a day later that
 they assume was from the same litter but they were euthanized due to
 space/kitten season.  When I brought them home they were all around
 .65lbs.  Two of them were eating wet food and 1 refused it.  I ended up
 having to bottle feed the 1 for 3 weeks before being able to wean him
 completely.  All 3 have been active, healthy and playful.  No signs of
 illness.  Gaining weight steadily..actually faster than any of my previous
 litters.
 Today I dropped them off to be spayed and neutered.  My biggest boy
 weighed 2.6lbs, girl 2.2lbs and than my smallest boy who was the bottle
 feeder the longest came in at just about 2lbs.  I got a call this afternoon
 that the Feline Leukemia test came back positive.  They only tested 1 at
 the time so I brought them right to the clinic when I picked them up and
 they tested a 2nd one who also tested positive.
 At this point they have been completely unhelpful in giving me any info or
 reassurance.  The only good thing I got out of them was that they did tell
 me that they have a rescue that specifically pulls FIV/FELV+ cats and if my
 cats didnt flip they would be able to place them in the rescue.  That
 rescue claims they have a 90-95% flip rate of FELV/FIV+ kittens they pull
 under the age of 12 weeks...but they are grouping FELV and FIV together and
 I honestly have no idea how many kittens they have pulled to create this
 statistic for themselves (it could be 2 litters or hundreds)...they claim I
 have a high chance of my kittens still flipping negative.

 I have/had adopters lined up for all 3 kittens.  I have contacted them
 all.  One is going to look for another kitten.  Two have actually requested
 to wait..one is willing to wait as long as it takes to see if he will
 flip...even if it takes 6 months.

 For the past week I had given the kittens much more freedom in my house.
 I know for a fact they drank from my 2 resident cats water dishes.  I also
 caught my 1 resident cat sneak into the kitten room and eating from their
 dish.  So they have been exposed.

 My main questions really are about the possibility of them flipping.  I
 cant seem to get any kind of consistent answer on this.  I have tons of
 other foster parents that keep reassuring me that the chances of them
 flipping to negative and just that they tested positive bc they are too
 young to have an accurate test and than looking online or talking with some
 others make it sound like the chance is higher of a flip if it was FIV not
 FELV. So what are the chances of them flipping?  Am I setting myself (and
 the potential adopters) up with false hope thinkng there could be a
 reasonable chance of them flipping to negative?  Do I just keep testing
 every month for 6 months?

 They did the quick snap test.  Should I continue to do that test or at
 what point should I request or bring to my own vet to have another type of
 test done?

 If they flip to negative- does that really mean they are in the clear and
 its safe for them to be adopted into a home with other cats?

 Someone is suggesting that I take my resident cats in and have them FELV
 vaccinated immediately even though they were already exposed...should I do
 this?  I had called my vet and they told me to bring my cats in 2 months to
 be tested for FELV.

 So much mixed information has been given to me Im just so emotionally
 drained and confused on my next steps.  I've grown to love these kittens
 very much but Im in no position to make them permanent resident cats here
 for long term. At the most I think I could consider hanging onto the boy
 Henry who has the adopter willing to wait for him for the 6 months to see
 if he flips negative if its worth waiting that long.  I just dont know at
 what point to turn them over to the FELV rescue.  I hate to dump them but
 I feel like if they truly are positive I cant provide them with what they
 need so the rescue specific for FELV is the best for them..but I dont want
 to put them there and have them placed in foster care with other FELV cats
 to have them just flip to negative but now be infected bc of exposure to
 other positive cats.  I want to know they are truly positive before making
 

Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Lee Evans
I had one kitten flip from FIV+ to no FIV.  I had two adult cats flip from 
FeLv+ to no FeLv.  Especially in kittens, it's very possible that in two 
months, when re-tested, they will be negative.  As for your cats 
eating/drinking or being near the kittens, that shouldn't be an issue.  It's 
not that easily transmitted, especially since the kittens are eating well, 
growing normally and gaining weight.  They are not actually active for FeLv.




 From: Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result
 

PS- I dont know if this link will work but here is the album of photos of my 
sweet foster babies.  Gerty, Jean and Henry.  
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.595079365376.2048530.135501135type=3


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi!  I am a foster mom for a high kill shelter in Philly.  I am fostering my 
3rd litter which was my first litter of bottle feeders.  I've spent the past 24 
hours researching like crazy online and trying to talk to others with 
experience but really getting a lot of contradicting information.  

The background:
I pulled this litter from the shelter about 5 weeks 
ago as borderline bottle feeders.  They were dumped on a doorstep in a 
box and brought to the shelter.  Apparently there were 2 additional 
dropped off a day later that they assume was from the same litter but 
they were euthanized due to space/kitten season.  When I brought them 
home they were all around .65lbs.  Two of them were eating wet food and 1
 refused it.  I ended up having to bottle feed the 1 for 3 weeks before 
being able to wean him completely.  All 3 have been active, healthy and 
playful.  No signs of illness.  Gaining weight steadily..actually faster
 than any of my previous litters. 
Today I dropped them off to be spayed and neutered.  My biggest boy 
weighed 2.6lbs, girl 2.2lbs and than my smallest boy who was the bottle 
feeder the longest came in at just about 2lbs.  I got a call this 
afternoon that the Feline Leukemia test came back positive.  They only 
tested 1 at the time so I brought them right to the clinic when I picked
 them up and they tested a 2nd one who also tested positive.  
At this point they have been completely unhelpful in giving me any info 
or reassurance.  The only good thing I got out of them was that they did
 tell me that they have a rescue that specifically pulls FIV/FELV+ cats 
and if my cats didnt flip they would be able to place them in the 
rescue.  That rescue claims they have a 90-95% flip rate of FELV/FIV+ kittens 
they pull under the age of 12 weeks...but they are grouping FELV and FIV 
together and I honestly have no idea how many kittens they have pulled to 
create this statistic for themselves (it could be 2 litters or hundreds)...they 
claim I have a high chance of my kittens still flipping negative.

I have/had adopters lined up for all 3 kittens.  I have contacted 
them all.  One is going to look for another kitten.  Two have actually 
requested to wait..one is willing to wait as long as it takes to see 
if he will flip...even if it takes 6 months.  

For the past week I had given the kittens much more freedom in my 
house.  I know for a fact they drank from my 2 resident cats water 
dishes.  I also caught my 1 resident cat sneak into the kitten room and 
eating from their dish.  So they have been exposed. 

My main questions really are about the possibility of them 
flipping.  I cant seem to get any kind of consistent answer on this.  I 
have tons of other foster parents that keep reassuring me that the 
chances of them flipping to negative and just that they tested positive 
bc they are too young to have an accurate test and than looking online or 
talking 
with some others make it sound like the chance is higher of a flip if it
 was FIV not FELV. So what are the chances of them flipping?  Am I 
setting myself (and the potential adopters) up with false hope thinkng 
there could be a reasonable chance of them flipping to negative?  Do I 
just keep testing every month for 6 months? 

They did the quick snap test.  Should I continue to do that test or 
at what point should I request or bring to my own vet to have another 
type of test done?  

If they flip to negative- does that really 
mean they are in the clear and its safe for them to be adopted into a 
home with other cats? 

Someone is suggesting that I take my resident cats in and have them 
FELV vaccinated immediately even though they were already 
exposed...should I do this?  I had called my vet and they told me to 
bring my cats in 2 months to be tested for FELV. 

So much mixed information has been given to me Im just so 
emotionally drained and confused on my next steps.  I've grown to love 
these kittens very much but Im in no position to make them permanent

Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread April Johnson
Hi Jamielynn:
 
I adopted a cat from ACCT last year without knowing they do not test unless 
requested by the adopter.  My cat turned out to be FELV+ she was with my other 
cats for a week.  My vet wanted me to put her to sleep but I couldn't.  I 
contacted the Best Little Cat House near Pittsburg and they were very helpful 
with information.  My cat has her own room away from the other cats and has 
been very happy.  My other cats have not shown any signs of illness. 
 
April 

From: Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result


PS- I dont know if this link will work but here is the album of photos of my 
sweet foster babies.  Gerty, Jean and Henry.  
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.595079365376.2048530.135501135type=3


On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi!  I am a foster mom for a high kill shelter in Philly.  I am fostering my 
3rd litter which was my first litter of bottle feeders.  I've spent the past 24 
hours researching like crazy online and trying to talk to others with 
experience but really getting a lot of contradicting information.  

The background:
I pulled this litter from the shelter about 5 weeks ago as borderline bottle 
feeders.  They were dumped on a doorstep in a box and brought to the shelter.  
Apparently there were 2 additional dropped off a day later that they assume 
was from the same litter but they were euthanized due to space/kitten season.  
When I brought them home they were all around .65lbs.  Two of them were eating 
wet food and 1 refused it.  I ended up having to bottle feed the 1 for 3 weeks 
before being able to wean him completely.  All 3 have been active, healthy and 
playful.  No signs of illness.  Gaining weight steadily..actually faster than 
any of my previous litters. 
Today I dropped them off to be spayed and neutered.  My biggest boy weighed 
2.6lbs, girl 2.2lbs and than my smallest boy who was the bottle feeder the 
longest came in at just about 2lbs.  I got a call this afternoon that the 
Feline Leukemia test came back positive.  They only tested 1 at the time so I 
brought them right to the clinic when I picked them up and they tested a 2nd 
one who also tested positive.  
At this point they have been completely unhelpful in giving me any info or 
reassurance.  The only good thing I got out of them was that they did tell me 
that they have a rescue that specifically pulls FIV/FELV+ cats and if my cats 
didnt flip they would be able to place them in the rescue.  That rescue 
claims they have a 90-95% flip rate of FELV/FIV+ kittens they pull under the 
age of 12 weeks...but they are grouping FELV and FIV together and I honestly 
have no idea how many kittens they have pulled to create this statistic for 
themselves (it could be 2 litters or hundreds)...they claim I have a high 
chance of my kittens still flipping negative.

I have/had adopters lined up for all 3 kittens.  I have contacted them all.  
One is going to look for another kitten.  Two have actually requested to 
wait..one is willing to wait as long as it takes to see if he will 
flip...even if it takes 6 months.  

For the past week I had given the kittens much more freedom in my house.  I 
know for a fact they drank from my 2 resident cats water dishes.  I also 
caught my 1 resident cat sneak into the kitten room and eating from their 
dish.  So they have been exposed. 

My main questions really are about the possibility of them flipping.  I cant 
seem to get any kind of consistent answer on this.  I have tons of other 
foster parents that keep reassuring me that the chances of them flipping to 
negative and just that they tested positive bc they are too young to have an 
accurate test and than looking online or talking with some others make it 
sound like the chance is higher of a flip if it was FIV not FELV. So what are 
the chances of them flipping?  Am I setting myself (and the potential 
adopters) up with false hope thinkng there could be a reasonable chance of 
them flipping to negative?  Do I just keep testing every month for 6 months? 

They did the quick snap test.  Should I continue to do that test or at what 
point should I request or bring to my own vet to have another type of test 
done?  

If they flip to negative- does that really mean they are in the clear and its 
safe for them to be adopted into a home with other cats? 

Someone is suggesting that I take my resident cats in and have them FELV 
vaccinated immediately even though they were already exposed...should I do 
this?  I had called my vet and they told me to bring my cats in 2 months to be 
tested for FELV. 

So much mixed information has been given to me Im just so emotionally drained 
and confused on my next steps.  I've grown to love these kittens very much but 
Im in no position to make them permanent resident

[Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Jamielynn Storch
April
ACCT is exactly where I am fostering these guys for- so upsetting that they
dont test.  I as well assumed it was done.  They will only test if
requested by the foster home yet they dont educate the foster homes that
its something they need to ask for.  I understand as bottlefeeders the test
is inaccurate anyway but still I had no clue I was even evers supposed ot
ask for it.  My first set of kittens were adopted out and never tested- if
they come up positive at some point I would be so upset for the adopters.

I also never would have exposed them to my cats until tested if I had
known.  I am feeling more confident that the chances of transmission to my
cats are hopefully slim with their very limited and minimal interaction.
Im sad having them contained in the room right now but they are happy and
in my eyes at this point perfectly healthy.

Hoping they flip negative.  ITs very helpful hearing other peoples
experience.  April I give you all the credit in the world for sticking with
your baby and making it work.  I am so concerned for if they stay positive
as to what that means for them.  The shetler has a rescue supposedly that
will take them but I dont want to just throw them at some rescue if its
someting I can still work to find placement for them.  I try to stick to my
commitments and I love these babies BUT the thing thats not possible is for
me to adopt them long term.  Thats always been out of the question.  I have
2 cats of my own and the current cat room was actually going to begin
transformation into a baby nursery after this litter.  Its all so
overwhelming...I feel the weight of their lives and futures literally in my
hands.  Euthanization is obviously not an option or consideration for me
unless it was a quality of life thing.  Wrapping my brain around how to
work through this and what the best course of action is if they are
positive is where Im struggling most.  Deep breaths I keep telling
myself..one day at a time.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread April Johnson
With kittens there is very good chance they will come back negative.  My girl 
Spicey was 10 months old and had been at the shelter for almost two months.  I 
had her tested again and it was found that the Leukemia was in her bone.  I'm 
just thankful that any new addition I always take to my vet right away as a 
precaution.  My vet said as long as she wasn't shedding the virus then my other 
cats would be fine.  What got me so upset was the adoption counslor knew I had 
other cats and never even mentioned about having her tested.  Please contact 
Best Little Cat house they really helped me and put my mind at ease.  They take 
in cats that are both FELV+ and FIV but they have two separate rooms for them.  
Cats that are FELV+ can live with it for a very long time.   Fingers crossed 
that they will come back negative.  


From: Jamielynn Storch jlsphotograp...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:38 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result


April
ACCT is exactly where I am fostering these guys for- so upsetting that they 
dont test.  I as well assumed it was done.  They will only test if requested by 
the foster home yet they dont educate the foster homes that its something they 
need to ask for.  I understand as bottlefeeders the test is inaccurate anyway 
but still I had no clue I was even evers supposed ot ask for it.  My first set 
of kittens were adopted out and never tested- if they come up positive at some 
point I would be so upset for the adopters.

I also never would have exposed them to my cats until tested if I had known.  I 
am feeling more confident that the chances of transmission to my cats are 
hopefully slim with their very limited and minimal interaction.  Im sad having 
them contained in the room right now but they are happy and in my eyes at this 
point perfectly healthy.  

Hoping they flip negative.  ITs very helpful hearing other peoples experience.  
April I give you all the credit in the world for sticking with your baby and 
making it work.  I am so concerned for if they stay positive as to what that 
means for them.  The shetler has a rescue supposedly that will take them but I 
dont want to just throw them at some rescue if its someting I can still work to 
find placement for them.  I try to stick to my commitments and I love these 
babies BUT the thing thats not possible is for me to adopt them long term.  
Thats always been out of the question.  I have 2 cats of my own and the current 
cat room was actually going to begin transformation into a baby nursery after 
this litter.  Its all so overwhelming...I feel the weight of their lives and 
futures literally in my hands.  Euthanization is obviously not an option or 
consideration for me unless it was a quality of life thing.  Wrapping my brain 
around how to work
 through this and what the best course of action is if they are positive is 
where Im struggling most.  Deep breaths I keep telling myself..one day at a 
time.  


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www.jlynnphotographyonline.com


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Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Lynda Wilson
Jamie,

How old are the other cats that are actually yours? If they are not real young 
and are not senior's, they more than likely will not contract the disease even 
though they were exposed. But since you have a big heart in helping other fur 
babies, then it won't hurt to vaccinate your cat(s) against FeLV for the 
future. It will NOT make the test positive if you vaccinate them and you will 
have peace of mind if you do vaccinate them against FeLV if you ever take in 
more litters or strays.

My experience is I adopted a very sweet orange kitty from my local humane 
society when he was 3 mos old. I fostered him until he was old enough to be 
neutered at 6 mos, then adopted him after.  At 9 mos, he was too far gone with 
the disease that I had no other choice. He and my other cat were very playful 
together, and groomed each other, etc.  I was worried he may have contracted 
it. But he never did. He was a little over a year old so his immune system was 
good. Since this experience, I continue to vaccinate all of my cats even though 
they are all strictly indoor only.  I know in my heart that if a stray finds 
me, I will not turn it away.  So if I were you I would go get your other babies 
vaccinated, it won't hurt them. But do get them tested in 90 days.

I wish you the best and I did look at your photos on Facebook. They are much 
too precious. I love the markings on the black and white kittens. They are 
irresistible!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jamielynn Storch 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:38 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result


  April
  ACCT is exactly where I am fostering these guys for- so upsetting that they 
dont test.  I as well assumed it was done.  They will only test if requested by 
the foster home yet they dont educate the foster homes that its something they 
need to ask for.  I understand as bottlefeeders the test is inaccurate anyway 
but still I had no clue I was even evers supposed ot ask for it.  My first set 
of kittens were adopted out and never tested- if they come up positive at some 
point I would be so upset for the adopters.

  I also never would have exposed them to my cats until tested if I had known.  
I am feeling more confident that the chances of transmission to my cats are 
hopefully slim with their very limited and minimal interaction.  Im sad having 
them contained in the room right now but they are happy and in my eyes at this 
point perfectly healthy.  

  Hoping they flip negative.  ITs very helpful hearing other peoples 
experience.  April I give you all the credit in the world for sticking with 
your baby and making it work.  I am so concerned for if they stay positive as 
to what that means for them.  The shetler has a rescue supposedly that will 
take them but I dont want to just throw them at some rescue if its someting I 
can still work to find placement for them.  I try to stick to my commitments 
and I love these babies BUT the thing thats not possible is for me to adopt 
them long term.  Thats always been out of the question.  I have 2 cats of my 
own and the current cat room was actually going to begin transformation into a 
baby nursery after this litter.  Its all so overwhelming...I feel the weight of 
their lives and futures literally in my hands.  Euthanization is obviously not 
an option or consideration for me unless it was a quality of life thing.  
Wrapping my brain around how to work through this and what the best course of 
action is if they are positive is where Im struggling most.  Deep breaths I 
keep telling myself..one day at a time.  


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  www.jlynnphotographyonline.com




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