Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Precious Pets, Almost Home
Dear Michelle:

If you find that you need pred after this refill let
me know.  I probably can be of some help!  I have the
pred in 5 mgs tablets.

I hope the transition for Lucy and you goes smoothly! 
Best wishes!

Precious Pets

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least
 one more time but to  try 
 to reduce it as fast as I can without it  bothering
 her. I had put her  on 
 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and
 today she has blood on her  
 stool and is eating a little less again. But solid
 stools and acting frisky, so  
 hope she is just adjusting.
 Michelle
  
 In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern
 Daylight Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't 
 have to.  I wonder if there 
 are other sources of pred.  Do you have  a farm/seed
 store around.  Sometimes 
 they have meds for livestock OTC  that would require
 a prescription for a 
 pet.  I don't know but it would  be worth a call.  
  
 Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the  others.  And
 for you and all the other 
 caregivers. 
  
 
 
 
  
 


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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Pam Norman
I have prednisolone in 5 mg tablets.  I like it better than prednisone 
because it's not metabolized by the liver  my Paddy, even tho his liver 
values are fine, has a very old liver at 21 1/2 years.  I almost never use 
prednisone anymore, only prednisolone,  they are identical except for that 
one thing.


Pam
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From: Precious Pets, Almost Home [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: Lucy again



Dear Michelle:

If you find that you need pred after this refill let
me know.  I probably can be of some help!  I have the
pred in 5 mgs tablets.

I hope the transition for Lucy and you goes smoothly!
Best wishes!

Precious Pets

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least
one more time but to  try
to reduce it as fast as I can without it  bothering
her. I had put her  on
11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and
today she has blood on her
stool and is eating a little less again. But solid
stools and acting frisky, so
hope she is just adjusting.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern
Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't
have to.  I wonder if there
are other sources of pred.  Do you have  a farm/seed
store around.  Sometimes
they have meds for livestock OTC  that would require
a prescription for a
pet.  I don't know but it would  be worth a call.

Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the  others.  And
for you and all the other
caregivers.









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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Precious Pets, Almost Home
I just want to specify that I have the Prednisolone in
5 mg tablets if that is what you need.  Also, from my
experience you are suppose to decrease the dosage of
the Pred slowly.  Stages of decreasment would be for
periods of two to three weeks.

Precious Pets

--- Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have prednisolone in 5 mg tablets.  I like it
 better than prednisone 
 because it's not metabolized by the liver  my
 Paddy, even tho his liver 
 values are fine, has a very old liver at 21 1/2
 years.  I almost never use 
 prednisone anymore, only prednisolone,  they are
 identical except for that 
 one thing.
 
 Pam
 - Original Message - 
 From: Precious Pets, Almost Home
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 7:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Lucy again
 
 
  Dear Michelle:
 
  If you find that you need pred after this refill
 let
  me know.  I probably can be of some help!  I have
 the
  pred in 5 mgs tablets.
 
  I hope the transition for Lucy and you goes
 smoothly!
  Best wishes!
 
  Precious Pets
 
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at
 least
  one more time but to  try
  to reduce it as fast as I can without it 
 bothering
  her. I had put her  on
  11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and
  today she has blood on her
  stool and is eating a little less again. But
 solid
  stools and acting frisky, so
  hope she is just adjusting.
  Michelle
 
  In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern
  Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't
  have to.  I wonder if there
  are other sources of pred.  Do you have  a
 farm/seed
  store around.  Sometimes
  they have meds for livestock OTC  that would
 require
  a prescription for a
  pet.  I don't know but it would  be worth a call.
 
  Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the  others. 
 And
  for you and all the other
  caregivers.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Lernermichelle




There other one is still going, actually. I tried it after leaving the 
first one. The moderator was better, but some of the members are really mean and 
I ended up leaving because they kept saying nasty things in response to 
suggestions I made. 
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:53:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I got put on moderation several times  I 
  think the whole issue is ridiculous with the extent to which they take 
  it. Theywant JUST the information you are replying to. 
  And they watch it like a hawk. There was another IBD list but I think it went 
  under.
  
  Pam




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Lernermichelle




I'm in NJ. This is already the second vet in the area that I am trying. I 
just made an appointment with a really good veterinary referral center for next 
Friday, with an internist. Unfortunately it is over 1.5 hours away, and Lucy 
hates hates hates the car, so I am stressed about it.

Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Michelle. don't reduce it any further for at least two-three weeks.
  
  Are there no other vets for her to go to?
  
  Where are you?
  
  
  
  Pam
  
- 





Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Lernermichelle




When I have upped her pred it was because she had bad diarrhea, but 10 
mg/day of pred makes her bowels solid within a day or two. She only vomits 
when relapsing, and only after eating grass. The pred stops it immediately. She 
lost weight when she relapsed 2 months ago, about a pound, and has not put much 
of it back on but has not lost more. She is about 8 pounds now, maybe a 
little more. I am really worried right now, though, because since last 
night she has not been very interested in food. She is eating a little, but only 
with great encouragement and harrassment. I gave her a little pepcid and a 
little reglan, and some fluids. She is otherwise acting ok. I am not 
worried about getting food into her, as she is incredibly easy to force-feed, 
but more worried as to why she's not wanting food when she is on so much pred. 
It makes me worry more about lymphoma.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:42:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Michelle, 
  
  My Paddy who was 20 at the time (he is now 
  21 1/2!) was on 10 mg of prednisolone for about 6 months . When I tapered him, 
  it was very very gradually. Several months on 7.5 mg per day, then 5 mg,  
  now he is on a permanent daily dose of 2.5. 
  
  Does Lucy have any of the usual symptoms?: 
  Vomiting, diarrhea? Loss of weight?
  
  Pam




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-10 Thread Marylyn



Try giving her Rescue Remedy before you leave and spray the devil out of 
the car and carrier with Feliway and Catnip spray. It helps a bunch. 
Then give yourself some RR. Dixie told some ACs that I needed it more than 
she did.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:58 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Lucy again
  
  
  I'm in NJ. This is already the second vet in the area that I am trying. I 
  just made an appointment with a really good veterinary referral center for 
  next Friday, with an internist. Unfortunately it is over 1.5 hours away, and 
  Lucy hates hates hates the car, so I am stressed about it.
  
  Michelle
  
  In a message dated 9/9/2006 10:44:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Michelle. don't reduce it any further for at least two-three 
weeks.

Are there no other vets for her to go to?

Where are you?



Pam

  - 
  
  
  


Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread catatonya
Prayers for Lucy.take care,  tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what
 is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice.  Michelle

Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Marylyn



There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't 
have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a 
farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that 
would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be worth 
a call. 

Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. 
And for you and all the other caregivers.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  catatonya 
  
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 1:41 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Lucy again
  
  Prayers for Lucy.
  
  take care,
  tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick 
cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 
mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into 
lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too 
quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried 
my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she 
should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, 
since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, 
and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and 
severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive 
probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep 
prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice.
Michelle


Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Lernermichelle




Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to 
try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her 
on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her 
stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting frisky, so 
hope she is just adjusting.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't 
  have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have 
  a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC 
  that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would 
  be worth a call. 
  
  Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the 
  others. And for you and all the other caregivers.
  




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread kelly


At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:

Also try the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
good support and suggestions
Kelly


Thanks. The vet
said he will refill for me at least one more time but to try to reduce it
as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put her on 11.25
mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on her
stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting
frisky, so hope she is just adjusting.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


There is no point in stressing Lucy if you don't have to. I
wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do you have a farm/seed
store around. Sometimes they have meds for livestock OTC that would
require a prescription for a pet. I don't know but it would be
worth a call. 



Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the others. And for you and
all the other caregivers. 





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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Lernermichelle




I'm in NJ. Where are you?
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 5:57:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 02:47 
  PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was 
  great,,,If your vet is unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can 
  be on it for life...they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED]feel 
  free to call anytimewhere are you 
locatedKelly.




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Lernermichelle




I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept 
refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of the 
previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this 
problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off 
at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also try 
  the [EMAIL PROTECTED]good support and 
  suggestionsKelly




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread kelly


At 03:17 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
i am in California

I'm in NJ. Where
are you?
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 5:57:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:

I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was great,,,If your vet is
unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can be on it for
life...

they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED]

feel free to call anytime

where are you located

Kelly.


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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread kelly


At 03:18 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
Ya ..I left for the same reasons,,especially if I did not agree on the
RAW stuff,,,It would be a good place to gather infor on Budesonide for
your vet..you can just go their archives and print up stuff on it from
there and take it to your vet also,

I was on that group
for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my
messages because she said I either included too much of the previous post
or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on
other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me
in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately.
Michelle

In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Also try the 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

good support and suggestions

Kelly



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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Susan Hoffman
I had the same problem. Maddening! This was right after Marie developed colitis and the fecal showed tritrichomomos foetus, which is often mistaken for flagyl-resistant giardia. I was trying to share that info and an off-list email I received urhed me to trim and post but i was never able to trim to their standardskelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  At 03:18 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:Ya ..I left for the same reasons,,especially if I did not agree on the RAW stuff,,,It would be a good place to gather infor on Budesonide for your vet..you can just go their archives and print up stuff on it from there and take it to your vet also,  I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to post my messages because she said
 I either included too much of the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. Unfortunately.MichelleIn a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Also try the   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  good support and suggestions  KellyNo virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006

Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Pam Norman



Michelle, 

My Paddy who was 20 at the time (he is now 21 
1/2!) was on 10 mg of prednisolone for about 6 months . When I tapered him, it 
was very very gradually. Several months on 7.5 mg per day, then 5 mg,  now 
he is on a permanent daily dose of 2.5. 

Does Lucy have any of the usual symptoms?: 
Vomiting, diarrhea? Loss of weight?

Pam

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick 
cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 
mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into 
lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too 
quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried 
my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she 
should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, 
since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, 
and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and 
severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive 
probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep 
prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice.
Michelle


Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Pam Norman



Michelle. don't reduce it any further for at least two-three weeks.

Are there no other vets for her to go to?

Where are you?



Pam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:47 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Lucy again
  
  
  Thanks. The vet said he will refill for me at least one more time but to 
  try to reduce it as fast as I can without it bothering her. I had put 
  her on 11.25 mg/day and went to 10 mg/day yesterday and today she has blood on 
  her stool and is eating a little less again. But solid stools and acting 
  frisky, so hope she is just adjusting.
  Michelle
  
  In a message dated 9/9/2006 3:40:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
There is no point in stressing Lucy if you 
don't have to. I wonder if there are other sources of pred. Do 
you have a farm/seed store around. Sometimes they have meds for 
livestock OTC that would require a prescription for a pet. I don't 
know but it would be worth a call. 

Lots of prayers for Lucy and all the 
others. And for you and all the other caregivers.

  
  


Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Pam Norman



Michelle,

That group is known for being ultra fussy about trimming posts. I would try 
it again  just be really careful about it. It's frustrating but the 
information available is worth it.

Pam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:18 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Lucy again
  
  
  I was on that group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept 
  refusing to post my messages because she said I either included too much of 
  the previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having 
  this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she 
  went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. 
  Unfortunately.
  Michelle
  
  In a message dated 9/9/2006 6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Also 
try the [EMAIL PROTECTED]good support and 
suggestionsKelly
  
  


Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Pam Norman



Where in California?

Pam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  kelly 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:18 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Lucy again
  At 03:17 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:i am in 
  California
  I'm in NJ. Where are 
you?MichelleIn a message dated 9/9/2006 5:57:53 P.M. 
Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  At 02:47 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:
  I also have an IBD cat,,,The budesonide was great,,,If your vet is 
  unfamiliar with it have him familiarize himself, he can be on it for 
  life...
  they say it takes months to reduce [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  feel free to call anytime
  where are you located
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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-09 Thread Pam Norman



I got put on moderation several times  I think 
the whole issue is ridiculous with the extent to which they take 
it. Theywant JUST the information you are replying to. 
And they watch it like a hawk. There was another IBD list but I think it went 
under.

Pam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  Hoffman 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 8:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Lucy again
  
  I had the same problem. Maddening! This was right after Marie 
  developed colitis and the fecal showed tritrichomomos foetus, which is often 
  mistaken for flagyl-resistant giardia. I was trying to share that 
  info and an off-list email I received urhed me to trim and post but i was 
  never able to trim to their standardskelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  At 
03:18 PM 9/9/2006, you wrote:Ya ..I left for the same 
reasons,,especially if I did not agree on the RAW stuff,,,It would be a good 
place to gather infor on Budesonide for your vet..you can just go their 
archives and print up stuff on it from there and take it to your vet 
also,
I was on that 
  group for a while, but the moderator was very mean and kept refusing to 
  post my messages because she said I either included too much of the 
  previous post or not enough, and when I said something about not having 
  this problem on other lists and really needing to just get some advice she 
  went off at me in a really nasty email, so I left the group. 
  Unfortunately.MichelleIn a message dated 9/9/2006 
  6:01:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Also try the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
good support and suggestions
KellyNo virus found in this incoming 
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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-07 Thread Belinda

  Michelle,
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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-06 Thread Gina WN
I'm keeping Lucy in my prayers.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran
 with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice. MichellePlease visitmy Tigger Tales site!  On the fundraising page aremy merchant affiliate banners. If anyone uses my links to make a purchase, I will receive a percentage of all final sales.I am going to donate100% ofthe proceeds to animal welfare organizations.This is a great way to shop your favorite online pet stores and give something to a worthy cause. Thank you in
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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-06 Thread Lernermichelle




Thanks. Yes, I asked for Budesonide, but my local vet has never used it and 
will not give it to me. If I have to take her to the specialist that is on 
my list of things to ask for, but she is so god-awful in the car and gets so 
stressed out by it that I do not want to do the long car trip if not completely 
necessary.

I know 7.5 is not that high in terms of what they can tolerate, but it is 
pretty high for her to still relapse. She has never relapsed while on that much 
before. That is what worries me. 

Thanks again,
Michelle

In a message dated 9/5/2006 11:42:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At 08:10 
  AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:Try to remember that cats tolerate Prednisone 
  so much better than dogs,and 7.5 is not that high, Have you asked for 
  Budesonide???It is a steroid that work on the GI system without systemic 
  effects,,,My IBD kitty has been on it,,,All good wishes and thoughts 
  to you and LucyKelly




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-06 Thread Lernermichelle




When they do leukeran, it is usually combined with pred. I don't 
think my local vet will ever prescribe leukeran for her. If it gets to that 
point, we will probably need to go to the specialist.
Thanks,
Michelle

In a message dated 9/5/2006 12:35:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hi Michelle,
  Good wishes going out for Lucy and you. I don't know about 
  leukeran, but if she is probably going to be on it eventually anyway, 
  andif your vet won't refill the Pred., maybe he will allow you to switch 
  toleuk. now without thescope and see how that 
  works?Hopefully she'll adjust to the slower taper and it won't be 
  an issue...
  
  Bestwishes,
  Beth




Re: Lucy again

2006-09-06 Thread kelly


At 07:09 AM 9/6/2006, you wrote:

Most vets have access to current medication and Budesonide is used by
many these days, Perhaps if you take her /him in the literature he will
use it, 
Kelly

Thanks. Yes, I
asked for Budesonide, but my local vet has never used it and will not
give it to me. If I have to take her to the specialist that is on
my list of things to ask for, but she is so god-awful in the car and gets
so stressed out by it that I do not want to do the long car trip if not
completely necessary.

I know 7.5 is not that high in terms of what they can tolerate, but it is
pretty high for her to still relapse. She has never relapsed while on
that much before. That is what worries me. 

Thanks again,
Michelle

In a message dated 9/5/2006 11:42:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


At 08:10 AM 9/5/2006, you wrote:

Try to remember that cats tolerate Prednisone so much better than


dogs,and 7.5 is not that high, Have you asked for Budesonide???It


is a steroid that work on the GI system without systemic effects,,,My


IBD kitty has been on it,,,

All good wishes and thoughts to you and Lucy

Kelly



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Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread Lernermichelle


If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice.
Michelle


RE: Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Title: Message




Sending prayers for Lucy. 
Kerry

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Lucy again
If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, 
please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of 
pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as 
that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back 
up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill 
as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs 
that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they 
would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use 
leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours 
of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my 
local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no 
choice.
Michelle

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RE: Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane



Here's vibes that Lucy 
stabilizes and that your local continues to prescribe the 
prednisone.

Diane R.


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If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, 
please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of 
pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as 
that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back 
up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill 
as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs 
that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they 
would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use 
leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours 
of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my 
local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no 
choice.
Michelle

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RE: Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread Gary Murphy


Hi Michelle,
Good wishes going out for Lucy and you. I don't know about leukeran, but if she is probably going to be on it eventually anyway, andif your vet won't refill the Pred., maybe he will allow you to switch toleuk. now without thescope and see how that works?Hopefully she'll adjust to the slower taper and it won't be an issue...

Bestwishes,
Beth


If you have prayers to spare in this terrible week with so many sick cats, please say a little one for Lucy. This time she relapsed at 7.5 mg/day of pred. I am more worried that her ibd could be morphing into lymphoma, as that is a pretty high dose. But maybe I just tapered her too quickly. I am back up to 10 a day and will taper more slowly, but am worried my vet will not refill as he thinks that is too much pred and that she should get a scope if she needs that much. Though I don't see the point, since even if she has lymphoma they would put her on that much pred anyway, and if the pred stops working they use leukeran with both lymphoma and severe ibd, so what is the point of the 3 hours of driving and invasive probes. But I will have to see, because if my local vet will not keep prescribing the pred when she needs it, I may have no choice.
Michelle



RE: Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread wendy
Prayers going out for little Lucy.  What a trooper!

:)
Wendy

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Re: Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread LVega50899



Hi michelle, lucy is in my prayers, I pray for the best for both of you. 


Lori


Re: Lucy again

2006-09-05 Thread felv



Sending soothing vibes to Lucy, and you, Michelle.
Phaewryn

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