Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-25 Thread catatonya
This is true, but when the saliva dries the virus dies.  The virus is very 
fragile.  When I brought in my first positive cat I didn't know she was 
positive and she was mixed with about ten other cats.  One was a kitten that 
was for all purposes her 'littermate'.  They groomed each other etc. My 
positive lived to be about 7 and I still have her littermate years later.  
Water bowls would be the best bet for transmission, but transmission just 
doesn't occur with adult, vaccinated cats very easily.
  tonya

Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I thought felv could be transmitted through saliva, like preening, water 
bowls (staying wet) or litterboxes.

fiv transmits through deep puncture wounds.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Susan J. DuBose ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause,
Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls wrote:
 Good evening, all!

Hi there!

 How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?

Very short time. The saying here is when it dries, it dies.

 How
 contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected 
 cat?

It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat. Main
modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing.

Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! 





Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-25 Thread catatonya
,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Forgotten Souls 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:08 PM
  Subject: New to group; Questions
  

  Good evening, all!
   
  I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some 
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I 
currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have a 
nice size home, and have a large spare room that can be easily converted for a 
FeLeuk cat to be isolated from my neg guys. My major concerns really are what 
types of precautions will need to be taken to protect the neg cats from 
contracting it, and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have been 
doing some extensive reading, and aside from common sense things (dedicated 
food dish, litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to sanitize), what else 
should I be aware of to protect the cats from eachother? Pardon my questions if 
they come across as silly, I just want the best for these guys and don't want 
to place any undue harm on anys cats, or commit to something I can't do. How 
long does the virus actually survive in the environment? Is there anything I
 should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my cats to prevent 
transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a set up like this, can 
you give me specifics on how you are making it work? How contagious and easily 
does the virus actually transmit from an affected cat? I think this should 
cover my barrage of questions for now. Any feedback on what to do is greatly 
appreciated. Thanks, everyone! 
   
  Melody


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Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-24 Thread catatonya
Hi Melody,
   
  The first thing is to make sure all of your negative cats are vaccinated and 
boostered.  The next thing to consider would be the age of your negative cats.  
I have mixed positive and negative cats together for over 10 years now and 
never had anyone 'catch' leukemia from one of my positives.
   
  Non vaccinated cats and kittens are most susceptible to the virus.  
Vaccinated, adult cats will rarely turn up positive from exposure.  In fact 
this has never happened that I know of where it could definitely be proven.
   
  Many on the list allow their positives and negatives to live together, as I 
do, under these circumstances, but some do keep their positives and negative 
separated for various reasons.
   
  If you choose to separate you really don't need to take many (if any) 
precautions.  I know when I used to volunteer at the shelter we would have to 
'bleach' our shoes when we went from one area to the other due to uri's, parvo, 
etc but that isn't necessary in the case of leukemia unless you have very 
young, unvaccinated kittens in your home.
   
  tonya

Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good evening, all!
   
  I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some 
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I 
currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have a 
nice size home, and have a large spare room that can be easily converted for a 
FeLeuk cat to be isolated from my neg guys. My major concerns really are what 
types of precautions will need to be taken to protect the neg cats from 
contracting it, and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have been 
doing some extensive reading, and aside from common sense things (dedicated 
food dish, litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to sanitize), what else 
should I be aware of to protect the cats from eachother? Pardon my questions if 
they come across as silly, I just want the best for these guys and don't want 
to place any undue harm on anys cats, or commit to something I can't do. How 
long does the virus actually survive in the environment? Is there anything I
 should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my cats to prevent 
transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a set up like this, can 
you give me specifics on how you are making it work? How contagious and easily 
does the virus actually transmit from an affected cat? I think this should 
cover my barrage of questions for now. Any feedback on what to do is greatly 
appreciated. Thanks, everyone! 
   
  Melody



Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-23 Thread wendy
I've found with the rescue that I took in who lives in my library right now 
that she just learned that she wasn't going to be let out, and she doesn't 
really try anymore.  Maybe they will learn, especially if they have one another 
to keep company.  I wouldn't do the wipe down, but you can.  It wouldn't hurt 
them.  I don't know that water (damp cloth) would kill the virus though if it 
did happen to be on her fur.  I think that scenario is possible, but very 
highly improbable.  

Your food choice looks good.  Love your turkey tradition!  How funny!  And what 
a great treat!  I can't wait to see your new additions!

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


Evening, all!
 
I'd first like to thank everyone for the wonderful information provided - it's 
been incredibly helpful! Oddly enough, as this is mentioned, when I showed 
interest in the possibility of assisting this little guy, I was told of one 
other who was in a similar position - FeLV pos purebred white persian. The 
first one is a 5 month old kitten who had recently gone through neutering and 
jaw surgery, only to be tested and come up pos. I felt particularly soft to the 
fact that he had gone through so much, and to have this guy euthanized after 
everything he's going through, especially after a successful surgery at that, 
it broke my heart. I've worked with seniors and special needs cats for quite a 
few years, and since moving into our newer home, have been blessed with some 
extra space. The doror is pretty flush with the ground, but I will definitely 
make a point of ensuring no one plays 'paw games' or 'paw hockey' with 
eachother; LOL! The only concern I really
 have is in moving from one room to the other, I have a couple of cats who 
can't stand to see a closed door, and love to try to dart through the doors 
when they open (meaning a closed bedroom door, or what-have-you; all of our 
guys are indoor only), and I'd be a bit concerned about one of those guys 
getting curious and attempting to dart into the 'FeLeuk' room. Based on what 
I'm reading, I should be ok, provided I snatch the curious kitty and get him 
out promptly, correct? Without sounding too silly or paranoid, should I take a 
wet cloth in such a situation and just give the kitty a quick wipe off? 
 
Again, thank you so much everyone for all of the wonderful feedback. If all 
goes well, we should be meeting our pair on Labor Day weekend. I'm still open 
to any other advice anyone has as well. And in reference to diet, we feed 
either Nutro diets or Evo/Core (for the 'really special' guys) and on holidays 
(Turkey Day and Christmas, as well as Easter), let's just say we usually get 
two turkeys and one doesn't go to us; LOL! We shred up the meat after cooking 
it and give the kitties a much deserved treat (and a much deserved rest when 
they all fall asleep after their fill of turkey!) 
 
Thanks again, everyone! Looking forward to sharing our newcomers with everyone!


  

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Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Susan Dubose
Hi Melody!

First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people who 
decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few  far between.

I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are chronically 
ill w/other ailments or geriatric.

Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be very 
careful not to expose them to felv.

So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each 
other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your hands 
after handling your felv+ cat.

It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your 
clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.

I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several times per 
day.

There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes, I 
don't know.

Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.

This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's knowledge of 
felv..?

Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is good 
to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new medical 
developments.

I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I also 
use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional Strength 
formula, which is by prescription (vet).

I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded w/B 
vitamins.

These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't hurt 
them that's for sure to have some supplements.

I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed w/Wellness 
Core only for my felv+ cats.

My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or find 
a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into their food bin 
to help stretch the kitty budget.

They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat when 
I mix them in... :)

You are correct about dedicated food bowls, I always run mine through the 
dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own bowls  
dishes regardless.

Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have their 
own litterboxes also. (I use a different typeof box altogether for them, that 
way I know when I see them they are for felv+).

Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never pull the 
laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it, just 
to be safe.

It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly 
detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach.

I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to find 
time to hunt it down.. :)

My cats also have the Drinkwell systems, in both areas.

I have 2 fountains that are dedicated to the felv+ alone, and they get 
switched out every 2 weeks.

I also never clean both areas on the same day, just to be sure I do not mix any 
bowls, beds or Drinkwells.

Does that make sense?

I hope this helps you!

Please let us know how things go and if you have anyone questions!

Thanks!

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Forgotten Souls 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:08 PM
  Subject: New to group; Questions


  Good evening, all!

  I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some 
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I 
currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have a 
nice size home, and have a large spare room that can be easily converted for a 
FeLeuk cat to be isolated from my neg guys. My major concerns really are what 
types of precautions will need to be taken to protect the neg cats from 
contracting it, and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have been 
doing some extensive reading, and aside from common sense things (dedicated 
food dish, litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to sanitize), what else 
should I be aware of to protect the cats from eachother? Pardon my questions if 
they come across as silly, I just want the best for these guys and don't want 
to place any undue harm on anys cats, or commit to something I can't do. How 
long does the virus actually survive in the environment? Is there anything I 
should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my cats to prevent 
transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a set up like this, can 
you give me specifics on how you are making

Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Kelley Saveika
On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good evening, all!

Hi there!

 How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?

Very short time.  The saying here is when it dries, it dies.

  How
 contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected cat?

It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat.  Main
modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing.

Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!



Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Susan Dubose
I thought felv could be transmitted through saliva, like preening, water 
bowls (staying wet) or litterboxes.

fiv transmits through deep puncture wounds.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good evening, all!

Hi there!

 How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?

Very short time.  The saying here is when it dries, it dies.

  How
 contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected 
 cat?

It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat.  Main
modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing.

Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus.

-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! 




Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Angela Lewis
Hello All!
   This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the passing 
of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just wanted to 
share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had Ripley and 
Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood floors should be 
bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch and chair cushions 
should be washed by hand with hot water and disinfectant. I have also learned 
that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should be thrown out. They say 
that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours, but I would rather be 
safe than sorry. 
   
  Ang

Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Melody!
   
  First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people 
who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few  far between.
   
  I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are chronically 
ill w/other ailments or geriatric.
   
  Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be very 
careful not to expose them to felv.
   
  So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each 
other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your hands 
after handling your felv+ cat.
   
  It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your 
clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.
   
  I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several times 
per day.
   
  There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes, I 
don't know.
   
  Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.
   
  This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's knowledge 
of felv..?
   
  Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is good 
to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new medical 
developments.
   
  I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I also 
use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional Strength 
formula, which is by prescription (vet).
   
  I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded w/B 
vitamins.
   
  These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't hurt 
them that's for sure to have some supplements.
   
  I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed w/Wellness 
Core only for my felv+ cats.
   
  My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or 
find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into their 
food bin to help stretch the kitty budget.
   
  They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat 
when I mix them in... :)
   
  You are correct about dedicated food bowls, I always run mine through the 
dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own bowls  
dishes regardless.
   
  Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have 
their own litterboxes also. (I use a different typeof box altogether for 
them, that way I know when I see them they are for felv+).
   
  Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never pull the 
laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it, just 
to be safe.
   
  It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly 
detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach.
   
  I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to find 
time to hunt it down.. :)
   
  My cats also have the Drinkwell systems, in both areas.
   
  I have 2 fountains that are dedicated to the felv+ alone, and they get 
switched out every 2 weeks.
   
  I also never clean both areas on the same day, just to be sure I do not mix 
any bowls, beds or Drinkwells.
   
  Does that make sense?
   
  I hope this helps you!
   
  Please let us know how things go and if you have anyone questions!
   
  Thanks!
   
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent
   
   
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Forgotten Souls 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:08 PM
  Subject: New to group; Questions
  

  Good evening, all!
   
  I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some 
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I 
currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have a 
nice size home, and have a large spare room that can be easily converted for a 
FeLeuk cat to be isolated from

Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Kelley Saveika
I would not throw all those things away.  But of course it is up to you.

It seems very silly to me, since Ripley, Sherman, and Boy have all
been living together for..how long?  to at this point start throwing
things away.

On 8/22/07, Angela Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All!
  This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the
 passing of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just
 wanted to share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had
 Ripley and Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood
 floors should be bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch
 and chair cushions should be washed by hand with hot water and disinfectant.
 I have also learned that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should be
 thrown out. They say that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours,
 but I would rather be safe than sorry.

 Ang


 Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Melody!

 First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people
 who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few  far
 between.

 I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are chronically
 ill w/other ailments or geriatric.

 Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be very
 careful not to expose them to felv.

 So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each
 other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your
 hands after handling your felv+ cat.

 It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your
 clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.

 I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several times
 per day.

 There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes, I
 don't know.

 Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.

 This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's knowledge
 of felv..?

 Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is
 good to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new
 medical developments.

 I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I
 also use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional
 Strength formula, which is by prescription (vet).

 I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded
 w/B vitamins.

 These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't
 hurt them that's for sure to have some supplements.

 I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed w/Wellness
 Core only for my felv+ cats.

 My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or
 find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into their
 food bin to help stretch the kitty budget.

 They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat
 when I mix them in... :)

 You are correct about dedicated food bowls, I always run mine through the
 dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own
 bowls  dishes regardless.

 Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have
 their own litterboxes also. (I use a different typeof box altogether for
 them, that way I know when I see them they are for felv+).

 Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never pull the
 laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it,
 just to be safe.

 It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly
 detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach.

 I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to find
 time to hunt it down.. :)

 My cats also have the Drinkwell systems, in both areas.

 I have 2 fountains that are dedicated to the felv+ alone, and they get
 switched out every 2 weeks.

 I also never clean both areas on the same day, just to be sure I do not mix
 any bowls, beds or Drinkwells.

 Does that make sense?

 I hope this helps you!

 Please let us know how things go and if you have anyone questions!

 Thanks!

 Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
 www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
 www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
 www.shadowcats.net
   As Cleopatra lay in
 state,
Faithful Bast at her
 side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft
 applause,
Ever guarding with
 sharpened claws.
  Trajan Tennent




 - Original Message -
 From: Forgotten Souls
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:08 PM
 Subject: New to group; Questions

 Good evening, all!

 I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some
 feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I
 currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist

Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Kelley Saveika
FELV can be transmitted vertically (in utero or in milk) which is the
most common method of transmission.
It is a virus that is difficult to transmit.
Transmission through saliva, tears, urine and feces is known as
horizontal transmission.  This would include deep bite wounds (which
also transmit FIV).

There is significant age resistance.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/57000.htm


On 8/22/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought felv could be transmitted through saliva, like preening, water
 bowls (staying wet) or litterboxes.

 fiv transmits through deep puncture wounds.

 Correct me if I am wrong.

 Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
 www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
 www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
 www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


 On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Good evening, all!

 Hi there!
 
  How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?

 Very short time.  The saying here is when it dries, it dies.

   How
  contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected
  cat?

 It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat.  Main
 modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing.

 Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus.

 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

 Please help Caroline!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

 I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

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-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
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Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Kelley Saveika
Oh, here is some great info from the Merck vet manual about throwing
off the virus!

In ~70% of adult cats, viremia and virus shedding are transient,
lasting only 1-16 wk. A few cats continue to shed virus in secretions
for several weeks to months after they cease to be viremic. Virus may
persist in bone marrow for a longer period, but even this latent, or
sequestered, infection usually disappears within 6 mo. Some
FeLV-exposed cats (~30%) do not mount an adequate immune response and
go on to become persistently (ie, permanently) viremic. Persistently
viremic cats develop fatal diseases after a variable time period.

Same url.



On 8/22/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 FELV can be transmitted vertically (in utero or in milk) which is the
 most common method of transmission.
 It is a virus that is difficult to transmit.
 Transmission through saliva, tears, urine and feces is known as
 horizontal transmission.  This would include deep bite wounds (which
 also transmit FIV).

 There is significant age resistance.

 http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/57000.htm


 On 8/22/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I thought felv could be transmitted through saliva, like preening, water
  bowls (staying wet) or litterboxes.
 
  fiv transmits through deep puncture wounds.
 
  Correct me if I am wrong.
 
  Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
  www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
  www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
  www.shadowcats.net
   As Cleopatra lay in state,
Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause,
Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
  Trajan Tennent
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:56 PM
  Subject: Re: New to group; Questions
 
 
  On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Good evening, all!
 
  Hi there!
  
   How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?
 
  Very short time.  The saying here is when it dries, it dies.
 
How
   contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected
   cat?
 
  It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat.  Main
  modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing.
 
  Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus.
 
  --
  Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
 
  http://www.rescuties.org
 
  Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!
 
  http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
 
  Please help Caroline!
 
  http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline
 
  I GoodSearch for Rescuties.
 
  Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
  Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
 
 
 


 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

 Please help Caroline!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

 I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

 Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
 Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!



-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!



Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Susan Dubose
I agree, but do what you are commfortable with doing.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I would not throw all those things away.  But of course it is up to you.

It seems very silly to me, since Ripley, Sherman, and Boy have all
been living together for..how long?  to at this point start throwing
things away.

On 8/22/07, Angela Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All!
  This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the
 passing of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just
 wanted to share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had
 Ripley and Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood
 floors should be bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch
 and chair cushions should be washed by hand with hot water and 
 disinfectant.
 I have also learned that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should 
 be
 thrown out. They say that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours,
 but I would rather be safe than sorry.

 Ang


 Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Melody!

 First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people
 who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few  far
 between.

 I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are 
 chronically
 ill w/other ailments or geriatric.

 Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be 
 very
 careful not to expose them to felv.

 So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each
 other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your
 hands after handling your felv+ cat.

 It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your
 clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.

 I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several 
 times
 per day.

 There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes, 
 I
 don't know.

 Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.

 This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's 
 knowledge
 of felv..?

 Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is
 good to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new
 medical developments.

 I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I
 also use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional
 Strength formula, which is by prescription (vet).

 I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded
 w/B vitamins.

 These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't
 hurt them that's for sure to have some supplements.

 I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed 
 w/Wellness
 Core only for my felv+ cats.

 My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or
 find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into 
 their
 food bin to help stretch the kitty budget.

 They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat
 when I mix them in... :)

 You are correct about dedicated food bowls, I always run mine through 
 the
 dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own
 bowls  dishes regardless.

 Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have
 their own litterboxes also. (I use a different typeof box altogether for
 them, that way I know when I see them they are for felv+).

 Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never pull the
 laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it,
 just to be safe.

 It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly
 detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach.

 I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to 
 find
 time to hunt it down.. :)

 My cats also have the Drinkwell systems, in both areas.

 I have 2 fountains that are dedicated to the felv+ alone, and they get
 switched out every 2 weeks.

 I also never clean both areas on the same day, just to be sure I do not 
 mix
 any bowls, beds or Drinkwells.

 Does that make sense?

 I hope this helps you!

 Please let us know how things go and if you have anyone questions!

 Thanks!

 Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
 www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
 www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
 www.shadowcats.net

Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Susan Dubose
Thanks Kelly!

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


FELV can be transmitted vertically (in utero or in milk) which is the
most common method of transmission.
It is a virus that is difficult to transmit.
Transmission through saliva, tears, urine and feces is known as
horizontal transmission.  This would include deep bite wounds (which
also transmit FIV).

There is significant age resistance.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/57000.htm


On 8/22/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought felv could be transmitted through saliva, like preening, water
 bowls (staying wet) or litterboxes.

 fiv transmits through deep puncture wounds.

 Correct me if I am wrong.

 Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
 www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
 www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
 www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


 On 8/21/07, Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Good evening, all!

 Hi there!
 
  How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?

 Very short time.  The saying here is when it dries, it dies.

   How
  contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected
  cat?

 It is extremely difficult to transmit to a healthy adult cat.  Main
 modes of transmission are deep bite wounds and nursing.

 Healthy adult cats have ~85% immunity to the virus.

 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

 Please help Caroline!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

 I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

 Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
 Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!



Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Kelley Saveika
Absolutely.  Everyone should do what they are comfortable with, and it
probably isnt' as big a deal for her to replace all the items as it
would be for me or another rescuer.

I just don't want people who are new to the list to think they need to
throw everything out, particularly if cats have already been sharing
them for some period of time.

On 8/22/07, Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I agree, but do what you are commfortable with doing.

 Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
 www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
 www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
 www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent





 --
 Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

 http://www.rescuties.org

 Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

 http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

 Please help Caroline!

 http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

 I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

 Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
 Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20

Please help Caroline!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline

I GoodSearch for Rescuties.

Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the
Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!



Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread wendy
Hi Melody,

The first thought that came to mind is if you can possibly take in two FeLV+'s, 
to keep one another company, since cats in general are supposed to be social 
creatures.  It might help with their stress level, which is a good thing.  If 
you do this, I would adopt two that already know one another and like one 
another.  What a wonderful thing for you to do.  The only thing you really need 
to do is keep the pos and neg's separate so there isn't any exposure.  Make 
sure there isn't much space between the bottom of the door and the floor, where 
they might scratch one another playing or otherwise.  From what we know, the 
virus cannot live long outside the host's body, maybe a few seconds or minutes. 
 After handling positives or their litter or food/water bowls, get into the 
habit of washing your hands just in case, as the research is not conclusive as 
to how easily, or even how, it's transmitted.  We do know it can be carried in 
saliva, but it doesn't always
 show up there.  However, we've found here that it seems to be a very hard 
virus to pass.  A lot of us, including me, believe it can only be transferred 
from mother to kitten or via deep bite wounds.  And vaccinate your negatives.  
Keep us posted on what you decide to do and introduce your new furbabies to us 
when they come home!

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Forgotten Souls [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:08:09 PM
Subject: New to group; Questions


Good evening, all!
 
I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some feedback/advice 
on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I currently have neg 
cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have a nice size home, and 
have a large spare room that can be easily converted for a FeLeuk cat to be 
isolated from my neg guys. My major concerns really are what types of 
precautions will need to be taken to protect the neg cats from contracting it, 
and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have been doing some 
extensive reading, and aside from common sense things (dedicated food dish, 
litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to sanitize), what else should I be 
aware of to protect the cats from eachother? Pardon my questions if they come 
across as silly, I just want the best for these guys and don't want to place 
any undue harm on anys cats, or commit to something I can't do. How long does 
the virus actually survive in the environment? Is
 there anything I should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my 
cats to prevent transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a set up 
like this, can you give me specifics on how you are making it work? How 
contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected cat? I 
think this should cover my barrage of questions for now. Any feedback on what 
to do is greatly appreciated. Thanks, everyone! 
 
Melody


   

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Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread wendy
I agree.  Throwing things away seems like overkill, plus if they were exposed, 
it has already happened.  I think a lot of times vets say things like to CYA.  

:)
Wendy
 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~


- Original Message 
From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:31:34 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I agree, but do what you are commfortable with doing.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I would not throw all those things away.  But of course it is up to you.

It seems very silly to me, since Ripley, Sherman, and Boy have all
been living together for..how long?  to at this point start throwing
things away.

On 8/22/07, Angela Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All!
  This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the
 passing of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just
 wanted to share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had
 Ripley and Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood
 floors should be bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch
 and chair cushions should be washed by hand with hot water and 
 disinfectant.
 I have also learned that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should 
 be
 thrown out. They say that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours,
 but I would rather be safe than sorry.

 Ang


 Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Melody!

 First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people
 who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few  far
 between.

 I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are 
 chronically
 ill w/other ailments or geriatric.

 Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be 
 very
 careful not to expose them to felv.

 So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each
 other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your
 hands after handling your felv+ cat.

 It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your
 clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.

 I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several 
 times
 per day.

 There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes, 
 I
 don't know.

 Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.

 This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's 
 knowledge
 of felv..?

 Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is
 good to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new
 medical developments.

 I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I
 also use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional
 Strength formula, which is by prescription (vet).

 I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded
 w/B vitamins.

 These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't
 hurt them that's for sure to have some supplements.

 I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed 
 w/Wellness
 Core only for my felv+ cats.

 My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or
 find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into 
 their
 food bin to help stretch the kitty budget.

 They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat
 when I mix them in... :)

 You are correct about dedicated food bowls, I always run mine through 
 the
 dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own
 bowls  dishes regardless.

 Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have
 their own litterboxes also. (I use a different typeof box altogether for
 them, that way I know when I see them they are for felv+).

 Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never pull the
 laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it,
 just to be safe.

 It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly
 detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach.

 I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to 
 find
 time to hunt it down.. :)

 My cats also have

Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Marylyn
They are like people doctors..there are certain things they have to 
say/do then, if you corner them/ask them what they would do etc you get 
another story.  They are bound to do/recommend things that, theoretically, 
are in the best interest of the patient.  When asked what they would do and 
to consider quality of life the answers may be different.  I am going thru 
some of this with my mother and the textbook answers are different from the 
real life answers.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I agree.  Throwing things away seems like overkill, plus if they were 
exposed, it has already happened.  I think a lot of times vets say things 
like to CYA.


:)
Wendy

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change 
the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~



- Original Message 
From: Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:31:34 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I agree, but do what you are commfortable with doing.

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
 As Cleopatra lay in state,
  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
  Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I would not throw all those things away.  But of course it is up to you.

It seems very silly to me, since Ripley, Sherman, and Boy have all
been living together for..how long?  to at this point start throwing
things away.

On 8/22/07, Angela Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All!
 This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the
passing of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just
wanted to share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had
Ripley and Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood
floors should be bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch
and chair cushions should be washed by hand with hot water and
disinfectant.
I have also learned that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should
be
thrown out. They say that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours,
but I would rather be safe than sorry.

Ang


Susan Dubose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Melody!

First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people
who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few  far
between.

I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are
chronically
ill w/other ailments or geriatric.

Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be
very
careful not to expose them to felv.

So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to playunder the door w/each
other (good to get a flap that can prevent this) and always wash your
hands after handling your felv+ cat.

It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your
clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.

I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several
times
per day.

There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes,
I
don't know.

Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.

This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's
knowledge
of felv..?

Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is
good to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new
medical developments.

I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I
also use a product called Missing Link,but I get the Professional
Strength formula, which is by prescription (vet).

I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded
w/B vitamins.

These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't
hurt them that's for sure to have some supplements.

I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed
w/Wellness
Core only for my felv+ cats.

My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or
find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit

Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Forgotten Souls
Evening, all!

I'd first like to thank everyone for the wonderful information provided -
it's been incredibly helpful! Oddly enough, as this is mentioned, when I
showed interest in the possibility of assisting this little guy, I was told
of one other who was in a similar position - FeLV pos purebred white
persian. The first one is a 5 month old kitten who had recently gone through
neutering and jaw surgery, only to be tested and come up pos. I felt
particularly soft to the fact that he had gone through so much, and to have
this guy euthanized after everything he's going through, especially after a
successful surgery at that, it broke my heart. I've worked with seniors and
special needs cats for quite a few years, and since moving into our newer
home, have been blessed with some extra space. The doror is pretty flush
with the ground, but I will definitely make a point of ensuring no one plays
'paw games' or 'paw hockey' with eachother; LOL! The only concern I really
have is in moving from one room to the other, I have a couple of cats who
can't stand to see a closed door, and love to try to dart through the doors
when they open (meaning a closed bedroom door, or what-have-you; all of our
guys are indoor only), and I'd be a bit concerned about one of those guys
getting curious and attempting to dart into the 'FeLeuk' room. Based on what
I'm reading, I should be ok, provided I snatch the curious kitty and get him
out promptly, correct? Without sounding too silly or paranoid, should I take
a wet cloth in such a situation and just give the kitty a quick wipe off?

Again, thank you so much everyone for all of the wonderful feedback. If all
goes well, we should be meeting our pair on Labor Day weekend. I'm still
open to any other advice anyone has as well. And in reference to diet, we
feed either Nutro diets or Evo/Core (for the 'really special' guys) and on
holidays (Turkey Day and Christmas, as well as Easter), let's just say we
usually get two turkeys and one doesn't go to us; LOL! We shred up the meat
after cooking it and give the kitties a much deserved treat (and a much
deserved rest when they all fall asleep after their fill of turkey!)

Thanks again, everyone! Looking forward to sharing our newcomers with
everyone!


Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-22 Thread Susan Dubose
Ahhh, that's so nice...  :)

As for wiping off kitty that runs into the felv+room, I wouldn't, just be quick 
to snatch the little bugger tho!

Everything always looks greener on the other side of the door..

Thnaks for sharing your story, good luck  please keep us posted!

Susan J. DuBose  ^..^
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  As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws.
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: Forgotten Souls 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:08 PM
  Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


  Evening, all!

  I'd first like to thank everyone for the wonderful information provided - 
it's been incredibly helpful! Oddly enough, as this is mentioned, when I showed 
interest in the possibility of assisting this little guy, I was told of one 
other who was in a similar position - FeLV pos purebred white persian. The 
first one is a 5 month old kitten who had recently gone through neutering and 
jaw surgery, only to be tested and come up pos. I felt particularly soft to the 
fact that he had gone through so much, and to have this guy euthanized after 
everything he's going through, especially after a successful surgery at that, 
it broke my heart. I've worked with seniors and special needs cats for quite a 
few years, and since moving into our newer home, have been blessed with some 
extra space. The doror is pretty flush with the ground, but I will definitely 
make a point of ensuring no one plays 'paw games' or 'paw hockey' with 
eachother; LOL! The only concern I really have is in moving from one room to 
the other, I have a couple of cats who can't stand to see a closed door, and 
love to try to dart through the doors when they open (meaning a closed bedroom 
door, or what-have-you; all of our guys are indoor only), and I'd be a bit 
concerned about one of those guys getting curious and attempting to dart into 
the 'FeLeuk' room. Based on what I'm reading, I should be ok, provided I snatch 
the curious kitty and get him out promptly, correct? Without sounding too silly 
or paranoid, should I take a wet cloth in such a situation and just give the 
kitty a quick wipe off? 

  Again, thank you so much everyone for all of the wonderful feedback. If all 
goes well, we should be meeting our pair on Labor Day weekend. I'm still open 
to any other advice anyone has as well. And in reference to diet, we feed 
either Nutro diets or Evo/Core (for the 'really special' guys) and on holidays 
(Turkey Day and Christmas, as well as Easter), let's just say we usually get 
two turkeys and one doesn't go to us; LOL! We shred up the meat after cooking 
it and give the kitties a much deserved treat (and a much deserved rest when 
they all fall asleep after their fill of turkey!) 

  Thanks again, everyone! Looking forward to sharing our newcomers with 
everyone!

New to group; Questions

2007-08-21 Thread Forgotten Souls
Good evening, all!

I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I
currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have a
nice size home, and have a large spare room that can be easily converted for
a FeLeuk cat to be isolated from my neg guys. My major concerns really are
what types of precautions will need to be taken to protect the neg cats from
contracting it, and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have
been doing some extensive reading, and aside from common sense things
(dedicated food dish, litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to sanitize),
what else should I be aware of to protect the cats from eachother? Pardon my
questions if they come across as silly, I just want the best for these guys
and don't want to place any undue harm on anys cats, or commit to something
I can't do. How long does the virus actually survive in the environment? Is
there anything I should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my
cats to prevent transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a set
up like this, can you give me specifics on how you are making it work? How
contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected cat?
I think this should cover my barrage of questions for now. Any feedback on
what to do is greatly appreciated. Thanks, everyone!

Melody


Re: New to group; Questions

2007-08-21 Thread Kelly L

At 07:08 PM 8/21/2007, you wrote:



Very hard to catch, I once had a FELV pos cat theat we were 
unaware of who lived in close proximity with 14 other cats,not 
all vaccinated either,,non ever converted to poitive

Kelly



Good evening, all!

I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some 
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. 
Specifically, I currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a 
FeLeuk kitty. We have a nice size home, and have a large spare room 
that can be easily converted for a FeLeuk cat to be isolated from my 
neg guys. My major concerns really are what types of precautions 
will need to be taken to protect the neg cats from contracting it, 
and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have been 
doing some extensive reading, and aside from common sense things 
(dedicated food dish, litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to 
sanitize), what else should I be aware of to protect the cats from 
eachother? Pardon my questions if they come across as silly, I just 
want the best for these guys and don't want to place any undue harm 
on anys cats, or commit to something I can't do. How long does the 
virus actually survive in the environment? Is there anything I 
should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my cats to 
prevent transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a set 
up like this, can you give me specifics on how you are making it 
work? How contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit 
from an affected cat? I think this should cover my barrage of 
questions for now. Any feedback on what to do is greatly 
appreciated. Thanks, everyone!


Melody


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