Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-26 Thread wendy
Those companies won't have to worry too much about
making money off this incident.  The law of supply and
demand will automatically up their profits because you
can't buy the other stuff right now, and a lot of
people won't anyway when the products hit the shelves
again.  It's just like the peanut butter scare.  I
still can't buy Peter Pan or Great Value brand, and
Jif can't keep the shelves stocked because their
production lines weren't slated to handle that kind of
demand all of a sudden.  Jif has profited quite nicely
from Con Agra's misfortune, and the other cat/dog food
supply companies will enjoy the same trend for the
time being.

:)
Wendy


--- Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I noticed that OnlyNatural sent out an email
 confirming that none of the 
 food products they sell are effected by the recall
 and had no problem 
 touting the superiority of their products in a very
 timely manner.
 Nina
 
 Susan Hoffman wrote:
  Any manufactured or processed product -- and even
 organic spinach -- 
  can land on the supermarket shelves with a
 contaminant of some sort at 
  some point.  It's been a week since this all hit. 
 Friskies and other 
  pet food sellers do have info on their websites. 
 I would not expect 
  them to advertise in a way that would be overtly
 disparaging of 
  competitors -- liability issues -- but I wouldn't
 be surprised to see 
  prices go up soon.
   
 
  */MacKenzie, Kerry N.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
 
  That is a very good--and scary--point.
  -Original Message-
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *On Behalf Of
  *TenHouseCats
  *Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:54 AM
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Subject:* Re: Looking for a good canned food
 
  i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9
 lives--friskies aren't
  advertising like crazy right now. makes me
 really worry that they
  know something we don't--like that their
 products might show up on
  the list one of these days.
 
 
 
  On 3/24/07, *Susan Hoffman*
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies
 shredded cheese and
  turkey in gravy. And the turkey prime
 fillets is the preferred
  cat food of my pickiest eater. 
   
  From what I can determine, Friskies and
 Fancy Feast are not
  manufactured by Menu Foods.  I would like
 to know everything
  that has been manufactured by Menu Foods
 in the last 6-8
  months though.
 
 
  */elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ *wrote:
 
  LOL  how funny!  i got some for my
 cats and they wouldn't
  touch the stuff :-/
   
  elizabeth
 
   
  On 3/24/07, *Gina WN* 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  LOL My Pippin used to try to
 bury the Innova wet food! 
 
 
  */[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
 
  */Try Shredded
 Friskies...Turkey and Cheese,
  Salmon and Cheese. /*
  */My cats devour this stuff
 and will begged for it./*
  *//* 
  */Friskies Prime Fillets/*
  */Fancy Feast Medley/*
  */Whiskas/*
  *//* 
  */Buy a can of each so you can
 get an idea what
  the kitty will eat./*
  */I have bought the expensive
 food in the past and
  it was a waste of money they
 wouldn't eat
  it...tried to bury it! /*
  */My Vets that are Felv/Fiv
 friendly say give what
  they will eat to get the
 something solid and water
  from the wetfood. /*
  */Too many changes in food
 isn't good for them due
  their digestive tract. So be
 careful. /*
  *//* 
  */I too remember feeding my
 cats years ago Puss n
  Boots and Friskies in the big
 cans. /*
  */It was when there wasn't so
 many varieties as
  today but they were happy with
 it./*
  */Didn't have all the health
 problems
  either...makes ya wonder
 though./*
  */Boy, times have changed!/*
  *//* 
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-26 Thread wendy
My thought on all of this was, how do we know this
wasn't a 'dry run' for terrorists?  How do we know
that they aren't testing the waters to find through
which company and in what way they can inflict the
most damage through our food supply?  Me paranoid?  No
way.  ;)

:)
Wendy


--- TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 no, not that we can't be safe from all hazards, but
 that we're really
 fooling ourselves if we think that our food sources
 have been safe for
 a long time.
 
 we've all heard about SPORADIC outbreaks of e-coli,
 salmonella, etc
 etc and seen videos of horrible things happening
 at
 slaughterhouses, but could talk ourselves out of
 worrying too much
 because they WERE hit-and-miss.
 
 think about what this would be like on a human scale
 if ONE company
 was responsible for processing the same percentage
 of human food as it
 turns out menu foods seems to be with pet food
 and with the trend
 to multi-national corporations, factory farms 
 rather than smaller,
 individually managed (and maintained) ones, that
 might be where our
 own food supply is heading.
 
 i think this could be the wake-up call we have been
 not wanting to
 hear. sadly, maybe we'll listen more clearly cuz
 it's our critters
 
 i guess i'm saying that i'm not really surprised,
 because too many bad
 things have been allowed to go on for a long time,
 in the name of
 progress, and corporate ethics. and not enough
 people have stood
 up and said, NO, this is NOT acceptable.
 
 oh, heck, i have to have a POINT? damn. that may
 change my whole
 outlook on life.
 
 
 
 
 On 3/24/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Perhaps all wheat has gluten, but I highly doubt
 it all comes from the
  same source in China.  I don't know.  Now I have
 to go find my glasses
  and check the label on my Roman Meal bread!  Could
 it be possible that
  Menu Foods also produces processed foods for
 people too?  Or that they
  are not the only ones cutting cost corners by not
 testing the raw
  ingredients that they use in their products? 
 Sheesh.
 
  Is your point that we are never safe from the
 hazards of life as we know
  it?  I've lived long enough to acknowledge that we
 can't safeguard
  against every frightening contingency out there,
 (or in our cupboard).
  But what's a conscientious human to do?  We have
 to do what we always
  strive to do, keep ourselves as educated and
 informed as possible,
  (thanks to you for alerting us first about this
 latest plague on our
  complacency) and give thanks that we have made it
 through another day.
  I hate it when my nice, safe illusionary cocoon is
 disrupted.  Are you
  saying we should patch our collective cocoons and
 use prayers and glow
  to protect us?  What the heck is your point MC?
 :-)
  Nina
 
  TenHouseCats wrote:
   doesn't all wheat have gluten? isn't that why
 people with celiac
   disease can't eat products with wheat? (and so
 what, if the same
   equipment was used to process the stuff with
 rice or something
   else. i don't think that rat poison  cares
 what it clings to.)
  
   what are SAFE sources of protein in this world
 anymore, anyway? for
   humans OR critters? i just cannot see myself
 going out and chasing
   down mice for the cats, as much as i love
 them--and how do i know the
   MICE haven't eaten poison
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-26 Thread Del H. Daniels

Sadly you are realistic.
- Original Message - 
From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food



My thought on all of this was, how do we know this
wasn't a 'dry run' for terrorists?  How do we know
that they aren't testing the waters to find through
which company and in what way they can inflict the
most damage through our food supply?  Me paranoid?  No
way.  ;)

:)
Wendy


--- TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


no, not that we can't be safe from all hazards, but
that we're really
fooling ourselves if we think that our food sources
have been safe for
a long time.

we've all heard about SPORADIC outbreaks of e-coli,
salmonella, etc
etc and seen videos of horrible things happening
at
slaughterhouses, but could talk ourselves out of
worrying too much
because they WERE hit-and-miss.

think about what this would be like on a human scale
if ONE company
was responsible for processing the same percentage
of human food as it
turns out menu foods seems to be with pet food
and with the trend
to multi-national corporations, factory farms
rather than smaller,
individually managed (and maintained) ones, that
might be where our
own food supply is heading.

i think this could be the wake-up call we have been
not wanting to
hear. sadly, maybe we'll listen more clearly cuz
it's our critters

i guess i'm saying that i'm not really surprised,
because too many bad
things have been allowed to go on for a long time,
in the name of
progress, and corporate ethics. and not enough
people have stood
up and said, NO, this is NOT acceptable.

oh, heck, i have to have a POINT? damn. that may
change my whole
outlook on life.




On 3/24/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perhaps all wheat has gluten, but I highly doubt
it all comes from the
 same source in China.  I don't know.  Now I have
to go find my glasses
 and check the label on my Roman Meal bread!  Could
it be possible that
 Menu Foods also produces processed foods for
people too?  Or that they
 are not the only ones cutting cost corners by not
testing the raw
 ingredients that they use in their products?
Sheesh.

 Is your point that we are never safe from the
hazards of life as we know
 it?  I've lived long enough to acknowledge that we
can't safeguard
 against every frightening contingency out there,
(or in our cupboard).
 But what's a conscientious human to do?  We have
to do what we always
 strive to do, keep ourselves as educated and
informed as possible,
 (thanks to you for alerting us first about this
latest plague on our
 complacency) and give thanks that we have made it
through another day.
 I hate it when my nice, safe illusionary cocoon is
disrupted.  Are you
 saying we should patch our collective cocoons and
use prayers and glow
 to protect us?  What the heck is your point MC?
:-)
 Nina

 TenHouseCats wrote:
  doesn't all wheat have gluten? isn't that why
people with celiac
  disease can't eat products with wheat? (and so
what, if the same
  equipment was used to process the stuff with
rice or something
  else. i don't think that rat poison  cares
what it clings to.)
 
  what are SAFE sources of protein in this world
anymore, anyway? for
  humans OR critters? i just cannot see myself
going out and chasing
  down mice for the cats, as much as i love
them--and how do i know the
  MICE haven't eaten poison





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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Gina WN
LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food!  
  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. 
  My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.
   
  Friskies Prime Fillets
  Fancy Feast Medley
  Whiskas
   
  Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.
  I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of money they 
wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!
  My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get the 
something solid and water from the wetfood. 
  Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract. So be 
careful.
   
  I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in the big 
cans. 
  It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy with 
it.
  Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.
  Boy, times have changed!
   
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread elizabeth trent

LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the stuff
:-/

elizabeth


On 3/24/07, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food!


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

*Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. *
*My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.*
**
*Friskies Prime Fillets*
*Fancy Feast Medley*
*Whiskas*
**
*Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.*
*I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of money
they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!*
*My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get
the something solid and water from the wetfood. *
*Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract.
So be careful.*
**
*I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in the
big cans. *
*It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy
with it.*
*Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.*
*Boy, times have changed!*
**
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Susan Hoffman
I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and turkey in gravy. 
And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat food of my pickiest eater.  
   
  From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not manufactured by 
Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that has been manufactured by Menu 
Foods in the last 6-8 months though.

elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the stuff 
:-/
   
  elizabeth

 
  On 3/24/07, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL My Pippin used to try 
to bury the Innova wet food!  


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. 
  My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.
   
  Friskies Prime Fillets
  Fancy Feast Medley
  Whiskas
   
  Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.
  I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of money they 
wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!
  My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get the 
something solid and water from the wetfood. 
  Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract. So be 
careful.
   
  I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in the big 
cans. 
  It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy with 
it.
  Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.
  Boy, times have changed!
   
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread TenHouseCats

i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't advertising
like crazy right now. makes me really worry that they know something we
don't--like that their products might show up on the list one of these
days.



On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and turkey in
gravy. And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat food of my pickiest
eater.

From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not manufactured
by Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that has been manufactured
by Menu Foods in the last 6-8 months though.

*elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the stuff
:-/

elizabeth


On 3/24/07, Gina WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food!


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. *
 *My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.*
 **
 *Friskies Prime Fillets*
 *Fancy Feast Medley*
 *Whiskas*
 **
 *Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.*
 *I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of
 money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!*
 *My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get
 the something solid and water from the wetfood. *
 *Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract.
 So be careful.*
 **
 *I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in
 the big cans. *
 *It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy
 with it.*
 *Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.*
 *Boy, times have changed!*
 **
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RE: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
That is a very good--and scary--point.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food


i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't advertising
like crazy right now. makes me really worry that they know something we
don't--like that their products might show up on the list one of these
days. 




On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and
turkey in gravy. And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat food
of my pickiest eater.  
 
From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not
manufactured by Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that has
been manufactured by Menu Foods in the last 6-8 months though. 


elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they
wouldn't touch the stuff :-/ 
 
elizabeth

 
On 3/24/07, Gina WN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova
wet food!  



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and
Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. 

My cats devour this stuff and will
begged for it.

 

Friskies Prime Fillets

Fancy Feast Medley

Whiskas

 

Buy a can of each so you can get an idea
what the kitty will eat.

I have bought the expensive food in the
past and it was a waste of money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury
it! 

My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say
give what they will eat to get the something solid and water from the
wetfood. 

Too many changes in food isn't good for
them due their digestive tract. So be careful. 

 

I too remember feeding my cats years ago
Puss n Boots and Friskies in the big cans. 

It was when there wasn't so many
varieties as today but they were happy with it.

Didn't have all the health problems
either...makes ya wonder though.

Boy, times have changed!

 

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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread PEC2851
 
In a message dated 3/24/07 1:04:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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That is a very  good--and scary--point


Yes, I was also thinking [See? Sometimes my brain  DOES work!!!] the same 
thingabout Friskies  Fancy Feast.
Wonder if we'll ever know the truth...
 
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RE: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Susan Hoffman
Any manufactured or processed product -- and even organic spinach -- can land 
on the supermarket shelves with a contaminant of some sort at some point.  It's 
been a week since this all hit.  Friskies and other pet food sellers do have 
info on their websites.  I would not expect them to advertise in a way that 
would be overtly disparaging of competitors -- liability issues -- but I 
wouldn't be surprised to see prices go up soon.
   
  
MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is a very good--and scary--point.
  
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Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food


i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't advertising like 
crazy right now. makes me really worry that they know something we don't--like 
that their products might show up on the list one of these days. 



  On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one who will 
ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and turkey in gravy. And the turkey prime 
fillets is the preferred cat food of my pickiest eater.  
   
  From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not manufactured by 
Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that has been manufactured by Menu 
Foods in the last 6-8 months though.   

elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the stuff 
:-/ 
   
  elizabeth

 
  On 3/24/07, Gina WN  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL My Pippin used to try 
to bury the Innova wet food!  


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. 
  My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.
   
  Friskies Prime Fillets
  Fancy Feast Medley
  Whiskas
   
  Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.
  I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of money they 
wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it! 
  My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get the 
something solid and water from the wetfood. 
  Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive tract. So be 
careful. 
   
  I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in the big 
cans. 
  It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were happy with 
it.
  Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.
  Boy, times have changed!
   
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread elizabeth trent

Good point, Susan.  I think the lack of disparaging remarks shows some
class.

I have to wonder - why are so many of these types of issues being brought
into focus now?  The question isn't Are you paranoid?it's Are you
paranoid enough?

elizabeth


On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Any manufactured or processed product -- and even organic spinach -- can
land on the supermarket shelves with a contaminant of some sort at some
point.  It's been a week since this all hit.  Friskies and other pet food
sellers do have info on their websites.  I would not expect them to
advertise in a way that would be overtly disparaging of competitors --
liability issues -- but I wouldn't be surprised to see prices go up soon.


*MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 That is a very good--and scary--point.
 -Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *TenHouseCats
*Sent:* Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:54 AM
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*Subject:* Re: Looking for a good canned food

i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't advertising
like crazy right now. makes me really worry that they know something we
don't--like that their products might show up on the list one of these
days.



On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and turkey in
 gravy. And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat food of my pickiest
 eater.

 From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not manufactured
 by Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that has been manufactured
 by Menu Foods in the last 6-8 months though.

 *elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] *wrote:

 LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the
 stuff :-/

 elizabeth


 On 3/24/07, Gina WN  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food!
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  *Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. *
  *My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.*
  **
  *Friskies Prime Fillets*
  *Fancy Feast Medley*
  *Whiskas*
  **
  *Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.*
  *I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of
  money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it! *
  *My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get
  the something solid and water from the wetfood. *
  *Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive
  tract. So be careful. *
  **
  *I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in
  the big cans. *
  *It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were
  happy with it.*
  *Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.*
  *Boy, times have changed!*
  **
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread TenHouseCats

class and advertising are usually oxymorons--maybe i'm just too jaded,
but i HAVE gotten lots of EMAIL ads for other foods. i think
advertisers will do anything to make money if they think they can.

maybe because big companies keep getting away with it when they
disregard public safety, so don't care as much as they might if the
laws on the books were enforced?

On 3/24/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good point, Susan.  I think the lack of disparaging remarks shows some
class.

I have to wonder - why are so many of these types of issues being brought
into focus now?  The question isn't Are you paranoid?it's Are you
paranoid enough?

elizabeth



On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any manufactured or processed product -- and even organic spinach -- can
land on the supermarket shelves with a contaminant of some sort at some
point.  It's been a week since this all hit.  Friskies and other pet food
sellers do have info on their websites.  I would not expect them to
advertise in a way that would be overtly disparaging of competitors --
liability issues -- but I wouldn't be surprised to see prices go up soon.



 MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 That is a very good--and scary--point.

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TenHouseCats
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 11:54 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food

 i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't advertising
like crazy right now. makes me really worry that they know something we
don't--like that their products might show up on the list one of these
days.




 On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
  I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and turkey in
gravy. And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat food of my pickiest
eater.
 
  From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not manufactured
by Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that has been manufactured
by Menu Foods in the last 6-8 months though.
 
 
  elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the
stuff :-/
 
  elizabeth
 
 
  On 3/24/07, Gina WN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food!
  
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese.
   My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.
  
   Friskies Prime Fillets
   Fancy Feast Medley
   Whiskas
  
   Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.
   I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of
money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!
   My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to get
the something solid and water from the wetfood.
   Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive
tract. So be careful.
  
   I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies in
the big cans.
   It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were
happy with it.
   Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.
   Boy, times have changed!
  
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   https://www.paypal.com/
  
  
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Nina
I hear you.  Has Menu foods even acknowledged that there was rat poison 
in the wheat they bought from China?  I haven't seen it yet if they 
have.  It hasn't stopped me from checking all labels for wheat gluten 
though.

N

Susan Hoffman wrote:
This is the line that troubles me -- effected by the recall  I hear 
it a lot these days.  What does it mean?  Products added to the recall 
list mid-week were not effected by the recall the day before.  Does 
it mean their products don't have wheat, weren't  made by Menu Foods, 
are not on the recall listyet?
 
I want a complete list of every consumable, for animals and for 
people, manufactured by Menu Foods since August.  I want to know when 
they started doing business with the suspect Chinese supplier.  And I 
want to know who else bought wheat from that same supplier and what 
products it was used in.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go read 
the labels on the canned chili in my kitchen





Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread TenHouseCats

doesn't all wheat have gluten? isn't that why people with celiac
disease can't eat products with wheat? (and so what, if the same
equipment was used to process the stuff with rice or something
else. i don't think that rat poison  cares what it clings to.)

what are SAFE sources of protein in this world anymore, anyway? for
humans OR critters? i just cannot see myself going out and chasing
down mice for the cats, as much as i love them--and how do i know the
MICE haven't eaten poison



On 3/24/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I hear you.  Has Menu foods even acknowledged that there was rat poison
in the wheat they bought from China?  I haven't seen it yet if they
have.  It hasn't stopped me from checking all labels for wheat gluten
though.
N

Susan Hoffman wrote:
 This is the line that troubles me -- effected by the recall  I hear
 it a lot these days.  What does it mean?  Products added to the recall
 list mid-week were not effected by the recall the day before.  Does
 it mean their products don't have wheat, weren't  made by Menu Foods,
 are not on the recall listyet?

 I want a complete list of every consumable, for animals and for
 people, manufactured by Menu Foods since August.  I want to know when
 they started doing business with the suspect Chinese supplier.  And I
 want to know who else bought wheat from that same supplier and what
 products it was used in.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go read
 the labels on the canned chili in my kitchen






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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Nina
Perhaps all wheat has gluten, but I highly doubt it all comes from the 
same source in China.  I don't know.  Now I have to go find my glasses 
and check the label on my Roman Meal bread!  Could it be possible that 
Menu Foods also produces processed foods for people too?  Or that they 
are not the only ones cutting cost corners by not testing the raw 
ingredients that they use in their products?  Sheesh.


Is your point that we are never safe from the hazards of life as we know 
it?  I've lived long enough to acknowledge that we can't safeguard 
against every frightening contingency out there, (or in our cupboard).  
But what's a conscientious human to do?  We have to do what we always 
strive to do, keep ourselves as educated and informed as possible, 
(thanks to you for alerting us first about this latest plague on our 
complacency) and give thanks that we have made it through another day.   
I hate it when my nice, safe illusionary cocoon is disrupted.  Are you 
saying we should patch our collective cocoons and use prayers and glow 
to protect us?  What the heck is your point MC? :-)
Nina


TenHouseCats wrote:

doesn't all wheat have gluten? isn't that why people with celiac
disease can't eat products with wheat? (and so what, if the same
equipment was used to process the stuff with rice or something
else. i don't think that rat poison  cares what it clings to.)

what are SAFE sources of protein in this world anymore, anyway? for
humans OR critters? i just cannot see myself going out and chasing
down mice for the cats, as much as i love them--and how do i know the
MICE haven't eaten poison





Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread TenHouseCats

no, not that we can't be safe from all hazards, but that we're really
fooling ourselves if we think that our food sources have been safe for
a long time.

we've all heard about SPORADIC outbreaks of e-coli, salmonella, etc
etc and seen videos of horrible things happening at
slaughterhouses, but could talk ourselves out of worrying too much
because they WERE hit-and-miss.

think about what this would be like on a human scale if ONE company
was responsible for processing the same percentage of human food as it
turns out menu foods seems to be with pet food and with the trend
to multi-national corporations, factory farms  rather than smaller,
individually managed (and maintained) ones, that might be where our
own food supply is heading.

i think this could be the wake-up call we have been not wanting to
hear. sadly, maybe we'll listen more clearly cuz it's our critters

i guess i'm saying that i'm not really surprised, because too many bad
things have been allowed to go on for a long time, in the name of
progress, and corporate ethics. and not enough people have stood
up and said, NO, this is NOT acceptable.

oh, heck, i have to have a POINT? damn. that may change my whole
outlook on life.




On 3/24/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Perhaps all wheat has gluten, but I highly doubt it all comes from the
same source in China.  I don't know.  Now I have to go find my glasses
and check the label on my Roman Meal bread!  Could it be possible that
Menu Foods also produces processed foods for people too?  Or that they
are not the only ones cutting cost corners by not testing the raw
ingredients that they use in their products?  Sheesh.

Is your point that we are never safe from the hazards of life as we know
it?  I've lived long enough to acknowledge that we can't safeguard
against every frightening contingency out there, (or in our cupboard).
But what's a conscientious human to do?  We have to do what we always
strive to do, keep ourselves as educated and informed as possible,
(thanks to you for alerting us first about this latest plague on our
complacency) and give thanks that we have made it through another day.
I hate it when my nice, safe illusionary cocoon is disrupted.  Are you
saying we should patch our collective cocoons and use prayers and glow
to protect us?  What the heck is your point MC? :-)
Nina

TenHouseCats wrote:
 doesn't all wheat have gluten? isn't that why people with celiac
 disease can't eat products with wheat? (and so what, if the same
 equipment was used to process the stuff with rice or something
 else. i don't think that rat poison  cares what it clings to.)

 what are SAFE sources of protein in this world anymore, anyway? for
 humans OR critters? i just cannot see myself going out and chasing
 down mice for the cats, as much as i love them--and how do i know the
 MICE haven't eaten poison






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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Tad Burnett
If you go to Purina's web page they have a whole special page about how 
their

foods are safe
Tad

TenHouseCats wrote:

i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't 
advertising like crazy right now. makes me really worry that they know 
something we don't--like that their products might show up on the list 
one of these days.




On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and
turkey in gravy. And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat
food of my pickiest eater. 
 
From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not

manufactured by Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that
has been manufactured by Menu Foods in the last 6-8 months though.


elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't
touch the stuff :-/
 
elizabeth


 
On 3/24/07, Gina WN  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food! 



[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and
Cheese.
My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.
 
Friskies Prime Fillets

Fancy Feast Medley
Whiskas
 
Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the

kitty will eat.
I have bought the expensive food in the past and it
was a waste of money they wouldn't eat it...tried to
bury it!
My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they
will eat to get the something solid and water from the
wetfood.
Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their
digestive tract. So be careful.
 
I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots

and Friskies in the big cans.
It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today
but they were happy with it.
Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya
wonder though.
Boy, times have changed!
 
Terrie Mohr-Forker


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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Nina
I can't believe you got a giggle out of me after all that. 
Nina


TenHouseCats wrote:

no, not that we can't be safe from all hazards, but that we're really
fooling ourselves if we think that our food sources have been safe for
a long time.

we've all heard about SPORADIC outbreaks of e-coli, salmonella, etc
etc and seen videos of horrible things happening at
slaughterhouses, but could talk ourselves out of worrying too much
because they WERE hit-and-miss.

think about what this would be like on a human scale if ONE company
was responsible for processing the same percentage of human food as it
turns out menu foods seems to be with pet food and with the trend
to multi-national corporations, factory farms  rather than smaller,
individually managed (and maintained) ones, that might be where our
own food supply is heading.

i think this could be the wake-up call we have been not wanting to
hear. sadly, maybe we'll listen more clearly cuz it's our critters

i guess i'm saying that i'm not really surprised, because too many bad
things have been allowed to go on for a long time, in the name of
progress, and corporate ethics. and not enough people have stood
up and said, NO, this is NOT acceptable.

oh, heck, i have to have a POINT? damn. that may change my whole
outlook on life.





Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Kelly L

At 01:08 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote:


Boy do I agree.those were the days when the dogs ate table scraps 
and SKIPPY and lived long healthy lives.
Organic does not mean much as far as safety, You may avoid 
pesticides, but the you risk mold , so of which are more deadly,

Kelly lane



If you go to Purina's web page they have a whole special page about how their
foods are safe
Tad

TenHouseCats wrote:
i'm kind of surprised that whiskas--9 lives--friskies aren't 
advertising like crazy right now. makes me really worry that they 
know something we don't--like that their products might show up on 
the list one of these days.




On 3/24/07, Susan Hoffman 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have one who will ONLY eat the Friskies shredded cheese and 
turkey in gravy. And the turkey prime fillets is the preferred cat 
food of my pickiest eater.


From what I can determine, Friskies and Fancy Feast are not 
manufactured by Menu Foods.  I would like to know everything that 
has been manufactured by Menu Foods in the last 6-8 months though.



elizabeth trent mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL  how funny!  i got some for my cats and they wouldn't touch the 
stuff :-/


elizabeth


On 3/24/07, Gina WN mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LOL My Pippin used to try to bury the Innova wet food!


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese.
My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.

Friskies Prime Fillets
Fancy Feast Medley
Whiskas

Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.
I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste of 
money they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!
My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat to 
get the something solid and water from the wetfood.
Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their digestive 
tract. So be careful.


I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and Friskies 
in the big cans.
It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they were 
happy with it.

Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder though.
Boy, times have changed!

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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread TenHouseCats

so maybe the point is, we do the best we can with the information we
have at the moment

and hold onto our cats and one another for dear life.


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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Basically, if you don't raise it or farm it yourself, there's no guarantees. 
Even
then, accidents happen occasionally.

Phaewryn

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what are SAFE sources of protein in this world anymore, anyway? for
humans OR critters? i just cannot see myself going out and chasing
down mice for the cats, as much as i love them--and how do i know the
MICE haven't eaten poison





Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My ex-step-dad's father would spend an hour after every grocery shopping trip 
WASHING
everything he bought before putting it in his refrigerator or pantry: gallons of
milk, blocks of cheese, jars of condiments, canned food, all washed with hot 
soapy
water, if the label fell off, he would use a marker to write the contents on the
can... non-washable packaged foods got sprayed with Lysol, etc.

Personally, I think that's a bit off the teeter, but hey, he never got sick.

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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-24 Thread Kelly L

At 03:14 PM 3/24/2007, you wrote:



We all have out compulsions, Me  I eat fruit and vegetables 
without even washing it,,Most germs are on your hand, And as I 
mentioned i will not ever eat home canned products, Botulism is 
so lethal, Anyway,, I never get sick either, We have no way of 
knowng if the fresh fruits and vegetables afre contaminated with 
E-coli,the levels of toxins in our water,,ot if the next person 
soliciting at your form door has TBLife has no guarantees, ,,only 
death, Our body and the bodies of all animals have a wonderfully 
developed immune system, We sanitize things to the point we now have 
super bugs and immune systems that are weakend from lack of use, it 
is like your muscles,,lay in bed for a month so your muscles will not 
get stressed and then try and walk, Same with the immune system Let 
it do it's job

Kelly Lane



My ex-step-dad's father would spend an hour after every grocery 
shopping trip WASHING
everything he bought before putting it in his refrigerator or 
pantry: gallons of
milk, blocks of cheese, jars of condiments, canned food, all washed 
with hot soapy
water, if the label fell off, he would use a marker to write the 
contents on the

can... non-washable packaged foods got sprayed with Lysol, etc.

Personally, I think that's a bit off the teeter, but hey, he never got sick.

Phaewryn

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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread Susan Hoffman
While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very 
finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets.  Also, 
Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies 
regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet formulation of 
Friskies chicken in gravy.  She prefers the senior formula/special diet variety 
and won't touch the other.  (Marie is 9 years old.  She has never eaten a 
single morsel of dry food in her life.  And I'm sure she never will.  At this 
point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd  rush her to the vet.  She eats 
strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties, and senior formula or special diet 
chicken in gravy.)

Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:body{font-family: 
Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: 
#ff;color: black;}  Anyone know a really good canned food that cats 
can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any 
suggestions?
   
  Debbie
  http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/



Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread Linda Johnson
I have a dry food addict who became ill a couple of
months ago with a severe liver infection and lost a
lot of weight.  I tried to get Boo to eat everything,
but he had absolutely no interest in any food (except
meat baby food) until I tried the new Fancy Feast
elegant medleys.  He just gobbles the entire 3 oz.
down immediately.  It's really expensive - about twice
as much as the regular Fancy Feast cans, but worth it
if you need your kitty to eat.

Linda




   Anyone know a really
 good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our
 cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any
 suggestions?




 

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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread Debbie


I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants to eat right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and bought some real expensive dryfoods and hardly any of our cats would eat them. We were feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but everyone was throwing it up - it was the same last night with the Friskies Whitefish and Tuna!
When I was a kid and we had cats outside and they would have eaten anything that they could get. I guess we have pampered our guys now too much. 
Thanks again Susan. By the way - do you mind if I ask where you are from? I know a Susan Hoffman here locally in Ohio.


Debbie
http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/
-Original Message- From: Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets. Also, Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet formulation of Friskies chicken in gravy. She prefers the senior formula/special diet variety and won't touch the other. (Marie is 9 years old. She has never eaten a single morsel of dry food in her life. And I'm sure she never will. At this point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd rush her to the vet. She eats strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties, and senior formula or special diet chicken in gravy.)Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions?

Debbie
http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/



Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread Kelley Saveika

My kids eat the felidae canned just fine.  But I have heard other people say
their cats do not.  I think it is a process of trying different things until
y ou find one they like.

Mine hear a can - any can - opening and they go nuts!

Kelley


On 3/21/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants to eat
right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and bought some real
expensive dry foods and hardly any of our cats would eat them. We were
feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but everyone was throwing it up - it was
the same last night with the Friskies Whitefish and Tuna!
When I was a kid and we had cats outside and they would have eaten
anything that they could get. I guess we have pampered our guys now too
much.
Thanks again Susan. By the way - do you mind if I ask where you are from?
I know a Susan Hoffman here locally in Ohio.


Debbie

http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/



-Original Message-
From: Susan Hoffman
Sent: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food

While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of
very finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets.
Also, Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between
Friskies regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet
formulation of Friskies chicken in gravy.  She prefers the senior
formula/special diet variety and won't touch the other.  (Marie is 9 years
old.  She has never eaten a single morsel of dry food in her life.  And I'm
sure she never will.  At this point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd
rush her to the vet.  She eats strictly Friskies prime filllet varieties,
and senior formula or special diet chicken in gravy.)

*Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our
cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions?

Debbie
http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/






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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread PEC2851
Debbie-
Well I guess it really depends on our fur babies.  And believe me, I  have 
a ungiue crew, and that's putting it mildly...
Some will eat just about anything, but I'll focus on my persnickety  
babies...
My Puma (ancient, ill  w/ kitty alzheimers [EXCEPT when it comes to  food] ) 
thrives on Fancy Feast, especially the new kind. ($$$'s, but he's  worth 
it..).  He also LOVES Friskies Tuna  Egg.  Only thing  is, I really have 
to 
smush it for the old boy He likes his food really,  really wet.  He also 
loves Friskies Mixed Grill.  And,  Ocean  Whitefish, Turkey  Giblets, 
Salmon...
And, except for a few, my babies detest any sliced  varieties...(Except 
for the Friskies Turkey  Giblets - probably know  it's good for them...)
Have to confess, they all hated the good stuff (canned, they ALL eat  
good dry.)..
Another thing, almost all of them dislike any beef flavor. Even the  
non-persnickety ones.
Hope you get some suggestions that Cassie will actually  love...
Sorry if I wasn't more helpful.  With this memory thing, it's  
impossible to recall all.  Just remember Friskies 'cause it's what we  
exclusively fed 
at shelter..
Hugs  Best Wishes,
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread JENI RECA
my cats love the fancy feast medleys too...especially the chicken and 
turkey.  I am trying pet gold elite and getting mixed reviews.  As a snack 
one of my cats loves the sheba snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans 
but little snacking wet food, expensive, but worth it when the cats love it 
so much.  Good luck

Jeni
Hillman Waller, Nookie the feral and Cree


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:52:35 EDT

Debbie-
Well I guess it really depends on our fur babies.  And believe me, I  have
a ungiue crew, and that's putting it mildly...
Some will eat just about anything, but I'll focus on my persnickety
babies...
My Puma (ancient, ill  w/ kitty alzheimers [EXCEPT when it comes to  food] 
)

thrives on Fancy Feast, especially the new kind. ($$$'s, but he's  worth
it..).  He also LOVES Friskies Tuna  Egg.  Only thing  is, I really 
have to

smush it for the old boy He likes his food really,  really wet.  He also
loves Friskies Mixed Grill.  And,  Ocean  Whitefish, Turkey  Giblets,
Salmon...
And, except for a few, my babies detest any sliced  
varieties...(Except

for the Friskies Turkey  Giblets - probably know  it's good for them...)
Have to confess, they all hated the good stuff (canned, they ALL eat
good dry.)..
Another thing, almost all of them dislike any beef flavor. Even the
non-persnickety ones.
Hope you get some suggestions that Cassie will actually  love...
Sorry if I wasn't more helpful.  With this memory thing, it's
impossible to recall all.  Just remember Friskies 'cause it's what we  
exclusively fed

at shelter..
Hugs  Best Wishes,
Patti  her (Friskies/Fancy Feast) gang




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Re: Looking for a good canned food - OOPS!!!

2007-03-21 Thread PEC2851
Debbie,
Sorry, I just read about the episode w/ the Salmon  Ocean  
Whitefish...Guess I wasn't too much help.
But, since you want Cassie eating something other than dry only, have you  
tried baby food [meat]?
Always works for me.  Especially when Puma was so sick  just  diagnosed, he 
was a mess. I really believe that's what got him back on  track.. 
(That, and me FINALLY being home!)
Again, Good Luck!
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread TatorBunz
Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese. 
My cats devour this stuff and will begged for  it.
 
Friskies Prime Fillets
Fancy Feast Medley
Whiskas
 
Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will  eat.
I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste  of money 
they wouldn't eat it...tried to bury it!
My Vets that are Felv/Fiv friendly say give what they will eat  to get the 
something solid and water from the wetfood. 
Too many changes in food isn't good for them due their  digestive tract. So 
be careful.
 
I too remember feeding my cats years ago Puss n Boots and  Friskies in the 
big cans. 
It was when there wasn't so many varieties as today but they  were happy with 
it.
Didn't have all the health problems either...makes ya wonder  though.
Boy, times have changed!
 
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread PEC2851
 
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:57:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

sheba  snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans 
but little snacking wet food,  expensive, but worth it when the cats love it 
so much.  Good  luck



Jeni-
 THANK YOU  Your post stirred a memory..  Yes,  Sheba was another 
food I forgot.
(It's amazing how much this list has helped me!  Thank you  ALL!)
Hugs,
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread PEC2851
 
In a message dated 3/21/07 11:08:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Whiskas
 



Terrie,
See?  You also helped me.  I also forgot about  Whiskas
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Re: Looking for a good canned food/other things too

2007-03-21 Thread TatorBunz
 
 
Well, with what's been going on with my life things have been  very hectic 
and finances being a strain/stressful. I'm surprised I remember that  too...lmao
 
I haven't replied back to anyone but feel bad for those that  have lost their 
furbabies to this horrible disease and other illnesses. You all  do remain in 
my thoughts and prayers. I do read all emails when possible. Felt  it was 
time to write to the group.
 
This crap with the food recall is out of control especially  when they knew 
about this before it actually hit wire/media. They have  known this for several 
weeks prior. 
It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods  that will die.
No pet deserves this!
God this just pisses me off!
 
I know at times you were there for me when I needed a  friend on my losses of 
my 
fur-angels plus when they were  sick prior.
You are a great bunch of caring and loving  people.
Remember, when I have said when the cure comes I will eat  Cheesecake with 
you that still stands...even though I can't stand the stuff. It  will be a 
victory!
 
Things continue to happen in my household never a dull  moment.
 
In a message dated 3/21/2007 7:16:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
In a message dated 3/21/07 11:08:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Whiskas
 



Terrie,
See?  You also helped me.  I also forgot about  Whiskas
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Re: Looking for a good canned food/other things too

2007-03-21 Thread TenHouseCats

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random-accessibility of our memories. we each hold different pieces of
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread PEC2851
 
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:28:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

but  worth it
if you need your kitty to eat.



Yes, indeed
Looks like the Fancy Feast Elegant entrees is really getting our furbabies  
to eat..
 
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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread Nina
I too have a house full of finicky eaters that won't touch anything 
that's priced above a $1 a can.  It's very frustrating trying to 
convince them that it's good for them and that mommy is sick of 
purchasing expensive canned cat food to feed to the dogs.  They all love 
the Innova Evo dry, and they also like the Solid Gold Katz-n-Flocken. 

All this talk about canned food reminded me of a brand that my cats did 
like but I was unable to find nearby with any regularity.  It's called 
Triumph.  I just found an online pet store that offers a ton of 
varieties: http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/
Check the ingredients list though, some seem better than others.  A 
couple of them have onion powder/salt added, and I've always heard that 
was a no no.


Pet food direct also sells the dry I use at a slightly lower price than 
where I'm getting it now, (onlynaturalpet.com).  I'm going to check 
shipping costs and see which is truly cheaper before I order.

Nina

Debbie wrote:


Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? 
Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions?


 


Debbie

http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/





Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread Pam Norman
I have 10 inside  tastes differ among all. But Wellness Turkey or 
Wellness Chicken is way up on the list. Some will eat the Felidae 
canned.  Most will eat the Friskies Turkey Filets that someone else 
mentioned   And also PetGuard's Fish, Chicken  Liver (that's one 
variety not 3!)


Pam

Kelley Saveika wrote:
My kids eat the felidae canned just fine.  But I have heard other 
people say their cats do not.  I think it is a process of trying 
different things until y ou find one they like.
 
Mine hear a can - any can - opening and they go nuts!
 
Kelley


 
On 3/21/07, *Debbie* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants
to eat right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and
bought some real expensive dry foods and hardly any of our cats
would eat them. We were feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but
everyone was throwing it up - it was the same last night with the
Friskies Whitefish and Tuna!
When I was a kid and we had cats outside and they would have eaten
anything that they could get. I guess we have pampered our guys
now too much.
Thanks again Susan. By the way - do you mind if I ask where you
are from? I know a Susan Hoffman here locally in Ohio.
 
 
Debbie


http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/

 


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From: Susan Hoffman
Sent: Mar 21, 2007 9:43 AM
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Subject: Re: Looking for a good canned food

While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a
couple of very finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on
Friskies turkey prime fillets.  Also, Marie, the ultimate
finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies
regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet
formulation of Friskies chicken in gravy.  She prefers the
senior formula/special diet variety and won't touch the
other.  (Marie is 9 years old.  She has never eaten a single
morsel of dry food in her life.  And I'm sure she never will. 
At this point, if ever I saw her eat dry food, I'd  rush her

to the vet.  She eats strictly Friskies prime filllet
varieties, and senior formula or special diet chicken in gravy.)

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Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem
to resist? Our cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything.
Any suggestions?
 
Debbie

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Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread elizabeth trent

Fancy Feast is always a big hit here.  When they are sick they seem to
prefer the ones that are just the regular pate (not minced, grilled, or
marinated - those they just eat the gravy).  Otherwise, the 'Sardines,
Shrimp and Crab in aspic' (orange label) is the hands down favorite.  The
new fancy feast medleys with the garden greens are scarfed up immediately
and promptly regurgitated...the yellow fin tuna being the favorite there.

Mama Kitty is going through an FeVL+ crash and not wanting to eat.  I opened
up a pouch of Chicken of the Sea brand Salmon -- just the plain kind - no
marinade -- she will eat that when she won't eat anything else.

Kitty kisses to Cassie,
elizabeth



On 3/21/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Anyone know a really good canned food that cats can't seem to resist? Our
cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any suggestions?



Debbie

http://wwwlovepoetry.blogspot.com/



Re: Looking for a good canned food

2007-03-21 Thread wendy
I ditto this; mine LOVE the stuff!

:)
Wendy

--- Linda Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a dry food addict who became ill a couple of
 months ago with a severe liver infection and lost a
 lot of weight.  I tried to get Boo to eat
 everything,
 but he had absolutely no interest in any food
 (except
 meat baby food) until I tried the new Fancy Feast
 elegant medleys.  He just gobbles the entire 3 oz.
 down immediately.  It's really expensive - about
 twice
 as much as the regular Fancy Feast cans, but worth
 it
 if you need your kitty to eat.
 
 Linda
 
 
 
 
Anyone know a really
  good canned food that cats can't seem to resist?
 Our
  cat Cassie just won't eat much of anything. Any
  suggestions?
 
 
 
 
  


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