Re: another 75 cc
Actually FIP is not contagious, and not necessarily what your kitty has. Corona virus is contagious at certain stages, but there are many types of corona virus and many if not most cats have it. As I understand it, FIP results from a genetic reaction and a mutation of the virus, which causes that particular cat to develop FIP. Any cat that's been in a situation with multiple cats, like rescue cats, probably carries corona virus. See http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=AA=681 It's more likely that he's developed a complication because of the FELV virus. I've had several young FELV cats that have developed mediastinal lymphoma at 2.5-3 yrs of age, with fluid accumulating in the chest cavity. Having the fluid drawn off was a great help, a good thing to do. So that's a very likely possibility. Drawing the fluid is, of course, just a temporary, palliative, thing, but bought us some nice time.Great to know about. I've never had one survive that stage, but remember reading about the Wisconsin Protocol and was interested in that as a treatment. Involved alternating treatment with various drugs. What a great blessing for this kitty that you took him in. Gloria On Feb 24, 2008, at 3:59 PM, laurieskatz wrote: If FIP, it can be contagious. I'd ask about it. He may not have other consistent symptoms. Being a nurse is exhausting...even more so when you love the patient. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Yes Laurie, Bob is a wonderful guy. He's a pretty easy going person but has shed tears over this too. I don't even know about FIP. All I know is they did a blood test first time they saw him and said he was positive for feline leukemia. I'll read up on it. The vets told us this morning that he is a very brave little guy. He doesn't even flinch at the vets. They can do anything they want to him and he doesn't fight them, just me when it comes to giving pills. We were given a demonstration of how to do it and the vet had us give him his antibiotic. Nothin to it. Apparently he is not suffering. I took him upstairs when we got home and he ran downstairs after us wanting to eat down here, then he did his stair scratching thing and went back up, like nothing happened today. I wish some of our whiney hypochondriac patients could take a lesson from him. I'm in a miserable mood today. I shouldn't have said that but I do mean it. Funny thing is the draining tprocedure is the cheapest part of the treatment. I could live with that. Unfortunately we needed the drugs today and got them there. Otherwise I can get this stuff for peanuts at the pharmacy across the hall at work. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Bob sounds like a wonderful husband for an animal lover/rescuer! Lucky BooBoo to have you both...and THREE docs! I almost hate to ask this...could this be FIP? Has anyone mentioned that? My friend's cat had FIP and she had to take him about once a week to have his lungs drained. Pls keep us posted. The good news is he does not seem to be in distress or pain. That is a blessing in this otherwise difficult time. Prayers continuing. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: another 75 cc Well we're home again. BooBoo had another 75ccs taken out of his lungs today. Not only did his regular vet come in to see him, a third vet was there. BooBoo has become quite the celebrity. They're now sending a sample for culturing and cytology to see if there are any cancer cells present. Nothing is going well for us. However, when he got home he ate a big lunch and we put him to bed with the window open for fresh air and he was purring like crazy. He's now on another antibiotic and will continue on the lasix for another week. Both the vets kissed him on top of his little head before we left. This third vet was very kind, the other two are as well but this one told us lets see what we're dealing with when the cytology report comes back and we'll go from there. He didn't dismiss the interferon but said we're basically doing palliative care here and our goal is to keep him comfortable. The fluid aspiration seems to help but it will continue. All three of these vets are East Indian and lovely caring men but I hate to admit that when they are giving details of what is going on I have a bit of a problem with the accents. He said something about protein spilling and I couldn't understand the rest. Of course I am always kind of overwhelmed with sadness I don't grasp the whole picture. On an up side, Bob mentioned on the way home that he doesn't even care about
RE: another 75 cc
It's lovely to hear BooBoo is getting so much attention. I'm also sure your husband is right---you're educating them. Good luck with finding an FeLV- knowledgeable vet as you mentioned more recently (I'm reading my emails back to front). Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: another 75 cc Well we're home again. BooBoo had another 75ccs taken out of his lungs today. Not only did his regular vet come in to see him, a third vet was there. BooBoo has become quite the celebrity. They're now sending a sample for culturing and cytology to see if there are any cancer cells present. Nothing is going well for us. However, when he got home he ate a big lunch and we put him to bed with the window open for fresh air and he was purring like crazy. He's now on another antibiotic and will continue on the lasix for another week. Both the vets kissed him on top of his little head before we left. This third vet was very kind, the other two are as well but this one told us lets see what we're dealing with when the cytology report comes back and we'll go from there. He didn't dismiss the interferon but said we're basically doing palliative care here and our goal is to keep him comfortable. The fluid aspiration seems to help but it will continue. All three of these vets are East Indian and lovely caring men but I hate to admit that when they are giving details of what is going on I have a bit of a problem with the accents. He said something about protein spilling and I couldn't understand the rest. Of course I am always kind of overwhelmed with sadness I don't grasp the whole picture. On an up side, Bob mentioned on the way home that he doesn't even care about the money part of this. He thinks these 3 vets are becoming more educated in the care of these animals and he doesn't mind at all paying for something that may benefit another cat in the future. I guess that's a good thing too. Lynne _ Effective September 1, 2007, we have changed our name to Mayer Brown LLP. IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer Brown LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer Brown LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayers should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: another 75 cc
Bob sounds like a wonderful husband for an animal lover/rescuer! Lucky BooBoo to have you both...and THREE docs! I almost hate to ask this...could this be FIP? Has anyone mentioned that? My friend's cat had FIP and she had to take him about once a week to have his lungs drained. Pls keep us posted. The good news is he does not seem to be in distress or pain. That is a blessing in this otherwise difficult time. Prayers continuing. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: another 75 cc Well we're home again. BooBoo had another 75ccs taken out of his lungs today. Not only did his regular vet come in to see him, a third vet was there. BooBoo has become quite the celebrity. They're now sending a sample for culturing and cytology to see if there are any cancer cells present. Nothing is going well for us. However, when he got home he ate a big lunch and we put him to bed with the window open for fresh air and he was purring like crazy. He's now on another antibiotic and will continue on the lasix for another week. Both the vets kissed him on top of his little head before we left. This third vet was very kind, the other two are as well but this one told us lets see what we're dealing with when the cytology report comes back and we'll go from there. He didn't dismiss the interferon but said we're basically doing palliative care here and our goal is to keep him comfortable. The fluid aspiration seems to help but it will continue. All three of these vets are East Indian and lovely caring men but I hate to admit that when they are giving details of what is going on I have a bit of a problem with the accents. He said something about protein spilling and I couldn't understand the rest. Of course I am always kind of overwhelmed with sadness I don't grasp the whole picture. On an up side, Bob mentioned on the way home that he doesn't even care about the money part of this. He thinks these 3 vets are becoming more educated in the care of these animals and he doesn't mind at all paying for something that may benefit another cat in the future. I guess that's a good thing too. Lynne
Re: another 75 cc
Yes Laurie, Bob is a wonderful guy. He's a pretty easy going person but has shed tears over this too. I don't even know about FIP. All I know is they did a blood test first time they saw him and said he was positive for feline leukemia. I'll read up on it. The vets told us this morning that he is a very brave little guy. He doesn't even flinch at the vets. They can do anything they want to him and he doesn't fight them, just me when it comes to giving pills. We were given a demonstration of how to do it and the vet had us give him his antibiotic. Nothin to it. Apparently he is not suffering. I took him upstairs when we got home and he ran downstairs after us wanting to eat down here, then he did his stair scratching thing and went back up, like nothing happened today. I wish some of our whiney hypochondriac patients could take a lesson from him. I'm in a miserable mood today. I shouldn't have said that but I do mean it. Funny thing is the draining tprocedure is the cheapest part of the treatment. I could live with that. Unfortunately we needed the drugs today and got them there. Otherwise I can get this stuff for peanuts at the pharmacy across the hall at work. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Bob sounds like a wonderful husband for an animal lover/rescuer! Lucky BooBoo to have you both...and THREE docs! I almost hate to ask this...could this be FIP? Has anyone mentioned that? My friend's cat had FIP and she had to take him about once a week to have his lungs drained. Pls keep us posted. The good news is he does not seem to be in distress or pain. That is a blessing in this otherwise difficult time. Prayers continuing. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: another 75 cc Well we're home again. BooBoo had another 75ccs taken out of his lungs today. Not only did his regular vet come in to see him, a third vet was there. BooBoo has become quite the celebrity. They're now sending a sample for culturing and cytology to see if there are any cancer cells present. Nothing is going well for us. However, when he got home he ate a big lunch and we put him to bed with the window open for fresh air and he was purring like crazy. He's now on another antibiotic and will continue on the lasix for another week. Both the vets kissed him on top of his little head before we left. This third vet was very kind, the other two are as well but this one told us lets see what we're dealing with when the cytology report comes back and we'll go from there. He didn't dismiss the interferon but said we're basically doing palliative care here and our goal is to keep him comfortable. The fluid aspiration seems to help but it will continue. All three of these vets are East Indian and lovely caring men but I hate to admit that when they are giving details of what is going on I have a bit of a problem with the accents. He said something about protein spilling and I couldn't understand the rest. Of course I am always kind of overwhelmed with sadness I don't grasp the whole picture. On an up side, Bob mentioned on the way home that he doesn't even care about the money part of this. He thinks these 3 vets are becoming more educated in the care of these animals and he doesn't mind at all paying for something that may benefit another cat in the future. I guess that's a good thing too. Lynne
Re: another 75 cc
I found an article about FIP. Yep, it sounds like he has that too. At this point Laurie I doubt it matters. The vet said we are giving him palliative care until we can do no more to help him. The other 19 year old and BooBoo have no contact with one another. Lennie lives downstairs and has no desire anymore to go upstairs and BooBoo lives upstairs by choice. So I'm not concerned about him being contageous no matter what he has. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc If FIP, it can be contagious. I'd ask about it. He may not have other consistent symptoms. Being a nurse is exhausting...even more so when you love the patient. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Yes Laurie, Bob is a wonderful guy. He's a pretty easy going person but has shed tears over this too. I don't even know about FIP. All I know is they did a blood test first time they saw him and said he was positive for feline leukemia. I'll read up on it. The vets told us this morning that he is a very brave little guy. He doesn't even flinch at the vets. They can do anything they want to him and he doesn't fight them, just me when it comes to giving pills. We were given a demonstration of how to do it and the vet had us give him his antibiotic. Nothin to it. Apparently he is not suffering. I took him upstairs when we got home and he ran downstairs after us wanting to eat down here, then he did his stair scratching thing and went back up, like nothing happened today. I wish some of our whiney hypochondriac patients could take a lesson from him. I'm in a miserable mood today. I shouldn't have said that but I do mean it. Funny thing is the draining tprocedure is the cheapest part of the treatment. I could live with that. Unfortunately we needed the drugs today and got them there. Otherwise I can get this stuff for peanuts at the pharmacy across the hall at work. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Bob sounds like a wonderful husband for an animal lover/rescuer! Lucky BooBoo to have you both...and THREE docs! I almost hate to ask this...could this be FIP? Has anyone mentioned that? My friend's cat had FIP and she had to take him about once a week to have his lungs drained. Pls keep us posted. The good news is he does not seem to be in distress or pain. That is a blessing in this otherwise difficult time. Prayers continuing. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: another 75 cc Well we're home again. BooBoo had another 75ccs taken out of his lungs today. Not only did his regular vet come in to see him, a third vet was there. BooBoo has become quite the celebrity. They're now sending a sample for culturing and cytology to see if there are any cancer cells present. Nothing is going well for us. However, when he got home he ate a big lunch and we put him to bed with the window open for fresh air and he was purring like crazy. He's now on another antibiotic and will continue on the lasix for another week. Both the vets kissed him on top of his little head before we left. This third vet was very kind, the other two are as well but this one told us lets see what we're dealing with when the cytology report comes back and we'll go from there. He didn't dismiss the interferon but said we're basically doing palliative care here and our goal is to keep him comfortable. The fluid aspiration seems to help but it will continue. All three of these vets are East Indian and lovely caring men but I hate to admit that when they are giving details of what is going on I have a bit of a problem with the accents. He said something about protein spilling and I couldn't understand the rest. Of course I am always kind of overwhelmed with sadness I don't grasp the whole picture. On an up side, Bob mentioned on the way home that he doesn't even care about the money part of this. He thinks these 3 vets are becoming more educated in the care of these animals and he doesn't mind at all paying for something that may benefit another cat in the future. I guess that's a good thing too. Lynne
Re: another 75 cc
ok. I'd just recommend handwashing when leaving BooBoo. I hope it isn't FIP. L - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:16 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc I found an article about FIP. Yep, it sounds like he has that too. At this point Laurie I doubt it matters. The vet said we are giving him palliative care until we can do no more to help him. The other 19 year old and BooBoo have no contact with one another. Lennie lives downstairs and has no desire anymore to go upstairs and BooBoo lives upstairs by choice. So I'm not concerned about him being contageous no matter what he has. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc If FIP, it can be contagious. I'd ask about it. He may not have other consistent symptoms. Being a nurse is exhausting...even more so when you love the patient. - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Yes Laurie, Bob is a wonderful guy. He's a pretty easy going person but has shed tears over this too. I don't even know about FIP. All I know is they did a blood test first time they saw him and said he was positive for feline leukemia. I'll read up on it. The vets told us this morning that he is a very brave little guy. He doesn't even flinch at the vets. They can do anything they want to him and he doesn't fight them, just me when it comes to giving pills. We were given a demonstration of how to do it and the vet had us give him his antibiotic. Nothin to it. Apparently he is not suffering. I took him upstairs when we got home and he ran downstairs after us wanting to eat down here, then he did his stair scratching thing and went back up, like nothing happened today. I wish some of our whiney hypochondriac patients could take a lesson from him. I'm in a miserable mood today. I shouldn't have said that but I do mean it. Funny thing is the draining tprocedure is the cheapest part of the treatment. I could live with that. Unfortunately we needed the drugs today and got them there. Otherwise I can get this stuff for peanuts at the pharmacy across the hall at work. Lynne - Original Message - From: laurieskatz To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: another 75 cc Bob sounds like a wonderful husband for an animal lover/rescuer! Lucky BooBoo to have you both...and THREE docs! I almost hate to ask this...could this be FIP? Has anyone mentioned that? My friend's cat had FIP and she had to take him about once a week to have his lungs drained. Pls keep us posted. The good news is he does not seem to be in distress or pain. That is a blessing in this otherwise difficult time. Prayers continuing. Laurie - Original Message - From: Lynne To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: another 75 cc Well we're home again. BooBoo had another 75ccs taken out of his lungs today. Not only did his regular vet come in to see him, a third vet was there. BooBoo has become quite the celebrity. They're now sending a sample for culturing and cytology to see if there are any cancer cells present. Nothing is going well for us. However, when he got home he ate a big lunch and we put him to bed with the window open for fresh air and he was purring like crazy. He's now on another antibiotic and will continue on the lasix for another week. Both the vets kissed him on top of his little head before we left. This third vet was very kind, the other two are as well but this one told us lets see what we're dealing with when the cytology report comes back and we'll go from there. He didn't dismiss the interferon but said we're basically doing palliative care here and our goal is to keep him comfortable. The fluid aspiration seems to help but it will continue. All three of these vets are East Indian and lovely caring men but I hate to admit that when they are giving details of what is going on I have a bit of a problem with the accents. He said something about protein spilling and I couldn't understand the rest. Of course I am always kind of overwhelmed with sadness I don't grasp the whole picture. On an up side, Bob mentioned on the way home that he doesn't even care about the money part of this. He thinks these 3 vets are becoming more educated in the care of these animals and he doesn't mind at all paying for something that may benefit another cat in the future. I guess that's a good thing too. Lynne
