Re: life spans of positives
Akira is about 2.5 yrs old..and as far as I can tell she was not born with it...but contracted it VEY early...first 6 monthsprobally sooner than thatI say she contracted it b/c when I had found her...something had obviously attacked her..I am assumming it was a larger cat...who was positive Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Feline leukemia in Florida Panthers--ask Dr Susan
what does Dr susan have to sya about this? was it found in Big cats first.or is this just recent.. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Metronidazole
Pill Poppers work wonders.get one from the vet..the longest you can get..stick the pill in it..and stick it WAY WAY back in the throatfar enough back the cat just swallows it...and never tastes it Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Feline leukemia in Florida Panthers
In a message dated 2/7/2005 9:58:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is an older message from the VETMED list - I thought some of you might find it interesting.Bonnie wow..how much older is it...I was told by 3 different vets that FeLV was not an issue for wild cats...as they couldn't get it!!! I know virus's mutate...but Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
going digest
hi everyone..just wanted to let you know that I was going on digest..I thought about no mail..but I figureedd this way I could still read when I couldANYWAYS..I am researching and trying to implemetn a RAW diet for all 4 cats..including Akira..and teh 2 dogs..so I subscribed to several RAW lists that I figure..FOR NOW..I need to get individually..so I put everything else on DIGEST...since I allready get so many each dayI will continue to pray for everyone and tehir kitties, And bless Simon..as I am sure he is over teh rainbow bridge..happy, healthy and full of life playing with all our other parted furkids..waiting for his time to be reunited with you and Gary. Anyways..if anyone needs me specifically then just email me directly so I get it quicker!!! Ill be back to normal soon hopefully..once I get all this other info processed!!! PS..if anyone on here feeds RAW..email me with ideas/history etc..ALSO...from what I have been finding in my research...RAW diets can greatly boost the immune systemenoughn to handle any Samonella or Ecoli...just like another cat...you just have to make sure not to leave it out to long..and put it up for later...sounds like a GREAT way to support our special little furballsif anyone is interested in teh group it is on YAHOO groups and is called RAWCAT Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: PCR test and FeLV answer
This reply form Kate is actually FAR more closer to what I understood PCR to be...much more accurate as long as done correctly, and used more often in research...but either way..more accurate...and it tests the genetic materials for the cat as to see any infection at allI found (please no offense!!) Dr. Susan's answer to be dated.(as well as her article on WINN) Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 2/5/2005 12:54:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This reply form Kate is actually FAR more closer to what I understood PCR to be...much more accurate as long as done correctly, and used more often in research...but either way..more accurate...and it tests the genetic materials for the cat as to see any infection at allI found (please no offense!!) Dr. Susan's answer to be dated.(as well as her article on WINN) I dont know WHERE this came form but I posted this like 2 weeks agoAOHELL is acting up again..please disregard Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Lysine question
In a message dated 2/4/2005 10:05:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could syringe it as someone suggested, but I tasted it and it is bitter and he is already so miserable today I do not want to do that.Thanks, Michelle, Lysine is ok to give him 500mg at once.a lot of times if a cat is asymptomatic they get 250 mg once a daysome when symptomatic get it 2wice a day to equall a total of 500 mg like you were doing...but even still some vets will perscribe up to 1000 mg a dayI was giving Akira 1000mg a day at one point and she got 500mg at once 2wice a day..now she only gets it if she gets teary eyed Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: from Dr. Susan RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 2/3/2005 2:52:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what is correctly, and how do you know? Cherie That's the problem Dr Susan is trying to get acrossyou DONT know :( Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: from Dr. Susan RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 2/2/2005 3:38:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I understood the posts ( I'm not saying I did!), wouldn't a latentinfection NOT show a positive Elisa/IFA? I was wondering if there is anyway to detect latent infection.Chris yes you are correct...and yes a PCR test...done correctly can detect a latent infection..the key word is CORRECTLY Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: from Dr. Susan RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:49:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We should not be basing our decisions about using a test solely on thematerial put out by those with a commercial interest in the test. Justbecause a test methodology is feasible in print does not guarantee anyspecific lab is actually good at doing the test. That's the crux of thematter. I understand that but Im not using that as my only sourceand from my understanding PCR testing is NOT new to FeLV or any kind of virus...I am under the understanding that it was among the first tests available to check for it Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: from Dr. Susan RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 2/1/2005 7:22:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OneAmerican lab I worked with had the right result only 50% of the time - youdo just as well tossing a coin and it costs less. that's pretty bad!!! what about the western Inkblot tests and all that stuff..if you dont mind the history lesson :) I thought the IFA and Dr Hardy's tests were different too? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Dr. Susan's comments RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 1/31/2005 6:44:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I too was confused about why Kate would state that the ELISA screens for antibodies, my guess it would be a simple mistype Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: from Dr. Susan RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 1/31/2005 9:26:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is a mistake to assume that a new technique such as PCR is more accuratethan exisiting methods until that has been confirmed. It turned out not tobe more accurate when done by commercial labs for diagnosis of FIV, and workdone at the University of Guelph suggests that PCR for FeLV may not be anybetter in reply. from ANTECHS site (http://www.antechdiagnostics.com/clients/antechNews/2004/sep04_01.htm) The polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test has been used for the diagnosis of FeLV infection. This test detects viral nucleic acid sequences instead of protein antigens. PCR may be useful in helping to determine the true status of cats with discordant results from other testing techniques. PCR is capable of detecting FeLV infection in blood, solid tissues, tissue cultures, and fixed specimens. also ANTECH refer's to "screening tests" as the ELISA test Although testing is relatively straight forward, no test is accurate 100% of the time. It is possible to have discordant test results, especially if the tests target different disease stages or require different specimens. In populations with a low prevalence of infection, 50% of cats with positive test results may be uninfected. Since the consequences of both false-positive and false-negative test results can be disastrous for individual cats or for multiple cat populations, confirming positive test results is crucial, especially in asymptomatic cats. Generally, screening tests are believed to be more sensitive for FeLV and FIV infection (fewer false-negatives), whereas the advanced confirma-tory tests are felt to be more specific (fewer false-positives). It is actually a very informative and interesting article considering our recent discussions on the different types of test and yes it can be easily contaminated..I stated that and also "when done correctly" was in my post regarding PCR testing. It is too expensivee for most people to consider, or for vets to commonly recommend. I see it commonly go for 65-105$ per test..just for that ONE TEST!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: from Dr. Susan RE: PCR test and FeLV answer
In a message dated 1/31/2005 11:01:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, Are you confusing this Dr. Susan with Dr. Susan Winn? Perhaps...and If I am I am COMPLETLY sorrybut I dont think so Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Chocolate
In a message dated 1/30/2005 2:42:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We had a dachsund when I was a child, let's say over well over 20 years ago. lol. I have a Wiener dog too..they get into EVRYTHING..and from talking to other owners..my little guy is VERY well behaved... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: I'm losing my Gypsy
In a message dated 1/25/2005 2:47:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Lisa, I'll pick them up. I'm assuming they carry them in Petsmart type stores? yes they do..that's where I got mine Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: My words come back to me sooner than i expected
In a message dated 1/24/2005 8:35:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have a plan for this cat!" dear human, who asked you? i, the cat, clearly havemy own plans! heheeh SPEW alert please... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Kerry, how is Levi today?
In a message dated 1/24/2005 1:25:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please keep Levi in your thoughts. It'snot been a good weekend for him, and I'm very afraid for him.Thanks for all your support. It means such a lot.Kerry Kerry, is he laying exclusivly on that one side?It may be bed soars (so?) brain fart..sorry!!! ANYWAYS..if that is the ONLY spot loosing hair that is what I would think Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: My words come back to me sooner than i expected
In a message dated 1/24/2005 1:29:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: She tried to kill one of my dogs, lol. I don't know how friendly she is yet, she's terrified. I don't know if I can even keep her yet, so I am not getting too attached. Mellissa, My Mona did the SAME thing she was absolutly viscious!!! but she now lives harmoniously with all5 of my other animals..it is still a bit tense with her and Akira..but its not Mona's fault...it took me about 6 months before I totally trusted her, and ALOT of work...but she was worth it to me... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: For Dr. Susan - Milk for Cats?
In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:04:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My son drinks it, my cats drink it, I even have an occasional glass. I just hope they filter it enough to clean some of the crap out. Cherie Id post a link but youd probally never touch the stuff again.it is REALLY gross ..not much better than factory farming meat in the way they care for them..the FDA actually has a minimum amount of bacteria and infection allowed IN the milk...I wish my BF had never found that link...I love mill to much to give it up though...but every now and then I cringe .. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Being a worry wort
In a message dated 1/23/2005 3:58:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For that, one would need a DNA test and that is not routinely performed if you have no reason to believe that the results of the ELISA do not tell the true tale, e.g., you have a cat who is sick and all symptoms point to FeLV, but the ELISA says negative. the PCR test is a DNA testit is more accurate..IF done correctly...but it is also more expensive,more easily screwed up, and more time consuming...I have asked my vet about it, and she says as long as teh blood is collected correctly, packaged correctly, sand handled correctly it is a far superior test...it is actually the one they use more often in experimental settings,,you can do a PCR test via blood, or even hair Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Kerry, how is Levi today?
In a message dated 1/24/2005 12:30:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry...what d'you mean by brain fart? Kerry that what I call it when I cant remember something I REALLY should knowand I KNOW I really should know it...its like when you try to remember something..you know you know it.. it is on the tip of your tounge..but you just can't get it outthat's a "Brain fart" Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Kerry, how is Levi today?
In a message dated 1/24/2005 12:58:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry...what d'you mean by brain fart? Kerry Scattered brainedlose train of thoughts and forgetful. Term used in the world of computers. IVE never met anyone else who knew what that meant!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FDA has frozen approvals of VO!
In a message dated 1/24/2005 1:32:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those are my thoughts. Any additional thoughts or insights or suggestions are requested and welcome. Michelle I thnk those are all great thoughts..and I would definantly contact Joy form the Marley fund..Actually I will give her your email...she will contact you.They are working with BAYER and another company right now to get Virbagen Omega and Baypapumn legalized here..Im sure she will be more than interested... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FDA has frozen approvals of VO!
In a message dated 1/24/2005 1:53:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been thinking all weekend about other issues involving the FDA. I cannot believe their report determining that there is an acceptable level of pentobarbital in pet foods. Just as the FDA has been shown to be in bed they also have a maximum amount of bacteria/infection/and bloodallowed in Milk among other things Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FDA has frozen approvals of VO!
In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:01:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: get special dispensation in the past they have just "pretended" that they didn't know it was necessary and ordered the drug anyway. Usually these drugs have to be paid for in advance of shipment, and my vet has special insurance for reimbursement, if they are not how does that work? I would think the company wouldn't let them order it... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: positive in GA needs home
In a message dated 1/24/2005 9:39:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have pics that I can send to anyone interested. It is a male long haired seal point email me pics..I will send them to Joy at the Marley fund...also include contact info for whoever has the cat right now... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: For Dr. Susan - Milk for Cats?
In a message dated 1/24/2005 10:20:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've heard there's even a certain amount of "pus" in it. ew yes...if anyone wants me to post teh link to the site that goes into ALL kinds of detail about milk and other tings that are really gross that teh FDA allows..I will...but I warn you..its gross Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FELV+ Kitty
Tonya..where is the kitty has anyone contacted the Marley Fund here in NC? Give me the most info you can about the kitty and a pic..I will send it to Joy... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FELV+ Kitty
In a message dated 1/22/2005 6:55:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am still looking for a placement for Ginger, she is a 16 week old orange kitten that is FELV+, she is in a foster home but in a cage and we really need to place her as it is so unfair to have her in a cage. Can anyone help? Linda where are you.. and I need more info on her please Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Question for Dr. Susan
those are good questions..esspecailly about the immunity!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: For Dr. Susan - thanks
In a message dated 1/21/2005 10:47:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can she be an 11 year old positive and symptomless cat? How could she have gotten this? Thanks Dr. Susan for any input! Kathy my point of view? this happens ALOT more than anyone gives credither body was probally weak when she got the virus, so it took hold, yet her immune system is strong enough to keep it in check so therefore she is fine and has lived a good long life... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: overstressed/overgrooming
In a message dated 1/22/2005 2:31:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As I just mentioned, my cats are not getting along very well. My positive (DD) has begun overgrooming her tummy and back legs. Does anyone have any ideas about how to deal with this? She seems to fight with them all. :( FELIWAY diffusers and spray Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: For Dr. Susan - thanks
In a message dated 1/22/2005 12:43:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I ask Dr. Susan a question??Since people animals get Vitamin "D" by being in sunlight. Whathappens to indoor only cats when they don't get this vitamin? It's so funny you ask that because I was just wondering the same thing dont your cats sit in window sills basking in sunlight? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: overstressed/overgrooming
In a message dated 1/22/2005 12:57:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been thinking about doing that, Sally. I haven't because I really just believe I have too many cats in too small a house. But maybe I might find out something that would help. Thanks, Tonya Tonya, If you really think that is the problem try making different levels for the cats to use..this gives them ALOT more room...you can try those shelves that lead to "tracks" that go around the celings..or even just stair like shelves..big enough for a kitty to sit on...they make really neat "furniture"/ "decorations" too..even without the kitties sitting on them..just empty shelves..in neat patterns..that go up the wallsjust let them be for the cats to have more room... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: For Dr. Susan - thanks
In a message dated 1/22/2005 2:12:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mine make a beeline for the windows when I open the curtains and sliding doors. They lay up against the screen doors/windows. Thank god they are sturdy! They are furever sunbathing... :) Mine too..they LOVE it when teh windows are actually open adn they can smell everything...yet the same kitties are terrified of going outside..but not Akira...she loves her walks...I am trying to talk Bobby into making an enclosure for her around one of the trees so she can climb too..she LOVES to climb trees..but having a leash attached makes it a bit difficult!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: For Dr. Susan - thanks
In a message dated 1/22/2005 2:12:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vote for my Rescue Siameses "KITTEN TRIO" it's a race please continue voting. http://www.pnwanimaladoption.com/contest.html HEY I just voted 2 times in teh same day...just different sessions online..it sure is close!!! EVERYONE..sign off AOHELL..tehn get back on in a few mins and vote again I know we can make them win!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: My Smokey's time is near....
In a message dated 1/22/2005 3:23:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is doing alot of sleeping. His body is just worn out. He has seen alot of kitties come and go positives/negatives. Heis the "Boss Man" as my husband puts it. Now he is stepping down to let the next oldest to take over. I ask for all your thoughts, vibes, and prayers for a safe and quiet passing for my Smokey if this should be his time. Thanks to a wonderful and caring group of people! WOW 19 is a wonderful long life..esspecially with you as mommy!!! I will pray for his passingalso weve been talking about assisting in transitions a lot on the animal communication board that I am on and someone posted something that their vet gave them about assisting in a natural death..Ill see if I can find it...it may be something you can do...it talks about different herbs, and incenses, and colors that can be placed around teh area to help the transition to be more harmonious Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Is FeLV really the WORST?
In a message dated 1/22/2005 4:37:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Snowball was playing and eating with the bleeding so it just was one of those things. Not to mention my daughter (age 1) bled to death in my arms, many years ago. CHERIE OMG how horrible..no wonder Snowball dieing like he did was so scary for youI am sorry about your little girl... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
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http://fuse.pha.jhu.edu/~hart/bed.html Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon is having another good day
In a message dated 1/20/2005 8:39:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Two weeks ago I did not think he would be here now, though, and I think he is in large part to the steroids (and the good energy sent by thi group!).What did your cat get them for?Michelle Michelle, I know you are so worried and anxious to know if Simon is going to be ok..but often times they say if you think it enough it will happen. That is also why they say prayer works as well..if you get a LOT of people to pray for one thing the positive energy REALLY works its magic...so try to stay positive..I know its hard and you dont want to get you hopes up..and then crushed..but Simon is doing so welljust keep praying to anyone who will listen in a good way, and keep thinking positive wonderful thoughts that Simon is going to beat all the odds!!! Mabey the Chemo is working Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon is having a good morning
In a message dated 1/19/2005 10:13:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: share all the bad stuff so i wanted to share this with you too. He is still in the woods, deep deep in the woods, so please do not stop praying for him and sending him energy. that is great news how well he is doing...he is sure amazing everyone!!! Perhaps it is the Chemo that is making him feel S bad for that week right afterwards...it has been about a week right? So what if he get the depo shots a few days before the chemo next time? Can they do that...then another a few days afterwards? Just a thought Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: to Lisa...decongestant for cats? Anything Better?
In a message dated 1/18/2005 12:02:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vets normally suggest the nose drops - it's just thatGary's nose is so tiny and was so plugged up, wecouldn't really use them effectively. If drops willwork for you - my vet suggested "Little Noses". It'sa decongestant for children without any extraingredients. I just use if I dont want teh cyprohedadine (sp) saline nose drops...just plain jane saline nose drops...ANY store will have them... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: OT: My current Guilt
In a message dated 1/17/2005 9:45:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for listening, I have no one else to vent to, since I have to keep a firm upper lip for my son, who is also upset over this. Cher Oh Cherie!!! Im so sorryyou poor thing..you are so right..what a week..but please dont beat yourself p ove the mouse...the poor little things can be so fragile...or so strongperhaps one of the cats had him for a bit...or he has injured allready...there are HUMDREDS of things that could have killed him...and I doubt your one Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Cyproheptadine...decongestant for cats? Anything Better?
In a message dated 1/17/2005 11:49:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another rescuer gave me some Cypro which was prescribed for another rescued kitty "for sneezing." I looked it up in the Merck drug reference book I have and it is an antihistamine. She said it is gnarly tasting and causes kittys to foam at the mouth and I am hesitant to use it if there is something gentler available. I seem to remember someone posting a while back about giving pediatric decongestant to a kitty, but can't remember which kind. Any feedback will be most helpful. I keep it in stock..just in case...it works great..I don t have the dose right now though..I THINK its a half tab Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: does FELV kitten imply FELV mama?
In a message dated 1/16/2005 1:18:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So... if Babycakes is FELV+, will that mean Fatima is FELV+? And if Babycakes is FELV-, will that mean Fatima is FELV-? it is possible ye..but how long have you had them in..he MAY have come into contact with another cat other than momma...so there is a SMALL possibility she is negative... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Levi/cat meditation objects
In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:04:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Buddha pictures are right behind it, so it is sort of funny. I think my partner took a picture of him doing this, which at some point I will figure out how to post somewhere based on the suggestions and offers of web pages sent to me (thanks to those who sent them). Michelle If the quality of the picture is really good..you should enter it in "The Marley Fund" calander contest..it is l;ike 5 $ per entry of a cat..5 photos each...they start it in march...I have several of each cat I am sending in...all the proceeds got to FeLV research at NC state..and Special needs kittys sanctuary. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Taming 'ferals'
In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:49:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and Im always looking for advice on that oneone of my older cats cant stand BB is so brutal with him that I have to keep them seperated. Any ideas on getting her to just let him be is always more than gratefully accepted! that is the exact thing that happened with Mona...when I brought her in...we went on for like 4-6 months I think before I felt I could trust hershe was visciousI tried everything..what ended up working was I had to crate her for several weeks..in the room with all the others loose. then I took her out on a leash, with my friendliest cat and dog loose, she did well until I decided to take the leash off..adn leave just the harness on..one fight and I put her back in the crate..for about a week I think..then..again..just like before...leashed...then I just dropped the leash...but left it on her..tehn I let her off...she did pretty well that time..she would stalk the others..curisously but never attacked them...and whenever she would get a little "pissy" a sharp hiss from me..of a loud..negative sound would snap her out of it...and things have been going really well since then...I also REALLY BELIEVE this helped out alot..I spoke to her..plain as day, and thought to her ALOT"if you cant learn to be nice..you will not live here..I will find you another home, if you ever hurt any of the others..ESSPECIALLY Akira..you will be out of my door."..ever since I finally let Akira loose Mona hasnt laid a paw on her..in fact..Akira is a little witch to her..and all she does is Hiss and run awayshe has been VERY good with Akira... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon's progress, Friday
I want to see the pics too..I can just imagine!!! they sound adorable Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: I'm worried abt Levi
In a message dated 1/15/2005 11:20:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And regarding ringworm, I've never had to deal with it at my house.HANK GOODNESS!!! But from my understanding it's so contagious that you don't have to come into contact with a cat to expose them. I've heard of people with ringworm having to wash all sofas, surfaces, etc... and still have ringworm "in the house." I'm not sure if it's actually airborne... but as a fungus, the spores just get everywhere, anywhere around the host... OH YES..that is VERY true..the spores live in teh enviroment FOREVER..adn they are VERY hardy...Ive had to BLEACH my house several times..plus I am still washing all clothes with a little bleachin fact its about time to bleach the house again!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Update on FeLV+ needing home in NJ
that's wonderful..what a neat name...I would definantly say that she liked that name.,... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: I'm worried abt Levi
In a message dated 1/13/2005 1:56:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He's scratching on the 'shoulder' area. have you recently put any "flea drops" on him, such as revolution, advavtage...or even...GASP...Hartz? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: I'm worried abt Levi
In a message dated 1/13/2005 2:45:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't heard of Hartz..?.Kerry Well that's a good thing then...they carry it in Walmart and many pet stores...it is a name brand that makes MANY pet related products..all are crap in my opinion, but there "medical line" of stuff..such as OTC fela drops, wormers,a nd ear mite stuff...is known to be very harmful, if not deadly in many cases..esspecially with cats...yet its still on the market...CRINGE Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: for Kerry - Levi
In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:04:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: think cats can get ring worm too, or it could be OH yes they can..and what a PITA it is to get rid of...my whole house has had it for about 6-8 months I think now..I THINK it is gone finally but every now and then I THINK I feel scabby things on 2 of my cats where the original lesion wasSO I still may have it around ANd actually cats are known as one of the more common sources for ringworm Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: ringworm
In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:59:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Lisa. Is there any way to tell if it's ringworm without shaving? Oh yesthey can look under a "woods lamp" or a black light lamp reallyand MOST ringworm will florecess a green color...but not all...AND they can do a culture..they take a few hairs from around the spot and they let it grow..this usually take 10 days thoughThe only reason they shaved my kitties is b/c they all had obvious hairloss and lesions on themsome cats can have it without even showing any signs of it... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: socialization
In a message dated 1/13/2005 4:16:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, I got a bit sidetracked with my worries re Levi---belatedly want to thank you SO much for taking the time and effort to share your experiences. I'm with you there re teaching via experience. It has to be spelled out to me. Kerry YoYour welcome... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Levi - re: Barbara's reply
In a message dated 1/13/2005 6:03:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty wild bunch you hang with! Maybe you should try smoking the catnip! NOOO I dont recommend that...it makes you VERY queesy.. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Ringworm
In a message dated 1/13/2005 6:09:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I started to really panic when I read it was necessary to sterilize the house. What a joke! I'd be proud of myself if I could just keep the place neat.Nina Let me tell you the story my vet told me when I was going through this..her and I are VERY close... Her PERSIAN got ringworm back when she was a vet student. This cat gave the ringworm to 7 of her friends and 3 of their parents!!! Talk about emmbarrassinganyways...NOTHING would get rid of this stuff..she tried every medical outlet she could, then she tried all the "old" remedies...she even gave teh poor cat a bleach bathand yes ..I was recommended that as well...the cat survived teh bath..but still had ringwormfinally She had to go to the people Dr b/c she had it...BUT also b/c the ONE medicine she had not tried yet was VERY expensive...and only by her getting her insurance to pay for it could she get it...So she went...got the "good stuff" and gave it to her cat...instead of taking it herselfTHAT finally got rid of it...along with bleaching her house almost every day for several weeksand THAT is how you stearlize the house...you dilute bleach...WAY down...and take a spray bottle..and SPRAY EVERYTHING. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: PCR TEST--Is it accurate?
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:30:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this test genuinely reliable? Yes but also highly uncommon..they use it far more often in research labs..than they do for the public..mainly b/c of its cost..it is about 60$ for just that one test Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Ringworm
In a message dated 1/14/2005 1:14:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My grandmother taught us to use Gentian Violet on ringworm. Works GREAT but my is is messy - lots of purple.Gloria Lets see everything I tried...and ended up I believe a combination of it all that got rid if it IF its gone...SIGH rescue remedy Gentian Violet Tea Tree oil all above combined Blue Star Ointment Lotrimin Metronidazole lotion and finally as a last resort Metronidazol tablets Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: news on Dr. Susan
In a message dated 1/12/2005 3:32:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, in regard to feline leukemia testing, she wrote:"this is a subject I have to be very current on because one of my jobs in 2005 is giving lectures around the U.S. to veterinary groups on FeLV and FIV testing." So if anyone has any questions on testing, Dr. Susan would be an excellent source of information. She is very willing to teach and I know she would be happy to answer questions. I know you said she is going to be gone..but perhaps you could have her give us...via email...a synopsis of her views and understanding of FeLV in general...testing, treatments, ressearch etcWe could even put it in as a file or something on the webisite..i think that would be extrememly benificial to everyone here...and for those looking Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 11:47:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All, 5 share boxes and they all share food, now I am worried. What is Lysine? What does it do for Princess? All 4 of mine share water, food boxes..etc they are all still negative...please dont worry nessacearily..just listen. read and learn..then make your own informed decision...MANY of us here on teh list mix our kitties..just as many dont mix them. here is MY take on it.ALL of my kitties are rescues, who were taken in off the street, thin, pregnant, dying...etcthey are ALL WAY better off now than before..even IF they chanced to catch FeLVwhich after much research, I find it difficult to believe a vaccinated, healthy adult cat will catch FeLVthere is ALWAYS a chance..as with anything there is always a chance...but I dont think it is large enough to worry about it...IMO...also..I would consider..in the instances people...like yourself..allready have several cats togeather...bonded togeather..that it would be far more stressful on them to separate them...they are allready mixed, allready exposed...if they havent gotten it yet..I seriously doubt they will get it..just keep them vaccinated and once you are justified in knowing they are negative..test yearly.. the Lysine is a natural supplement that is a viral inhibitor...it can help the body to control viral replicationit is most often seen to help in the Herpes virus...which in cats shows as watery eyes...but it is also believed to aid in inhibiting FeLV replication as well...Akira does not get it any more...as she quit eating food with supps in it a while back..but she was at one time on 500 mg 2 times a day..which is considered the max..ok fulltime amount to give...I am slowly being able to mix stuff into ehr food again..so I am going to try and start her back on it... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 3:34:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you Nina, yes I have heard of Interferon, and she is on it...I read that that looses it potency after awhile..is this true? it is good refridgerated for about 90 days I believe...but it must remain frozen until that pointit is supposed to be good frozen indefinantlyof course that is not he lableing..but after speaking with several pharmamsict about it..they all agreed... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 3:48:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chances are he had feline heartworm. WOW..that's rare Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/12/2005 4:21:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Karolyn,I found out a bit ago that my angel Timmy, (one of six kittens rescued at 2/12 weeks), that we suspect got the virus invitro, also tested negative. I'm overjoyed. I know the virus might be sequestered in his bone marrow, but I'm still celebrating his "negativity"! Sally also just had one of her positives tested and he's turned up negative now too! It's one of the baffling aspects of this disease, you just don't know what's going to happen. Prepare for the worst, expect the best!Nina Nina, you could run a PCR test and it "SHOULD" tell you if it is in the bone marrow or not..the PCR test tests for the genetic alteration of the cat to aid the virus in replicationdamn retrovirus'...so aggrecating!!! but anyways my point is that that test should be able to tell you if eh still has it or not...for sure... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 4:50:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will have to look into it, and ask my vet what she thinks, will I still be able to give Interferon to Amber. Yes you can...Akira gets it daily Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV - PCR test
In a message dated 1/12/2005 5:04:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks Lisa. What does PCR stand for? Is that the bone marrow test?Nina no its not the bone marrow test...that is actually a very invasive painful procedure...PCR ...I dont remember what it stands for..but they use a blood sample like they do for teh IFA and the ELISA test...HOWEVER it must be sent tothe lab differently..so make sure your vet knows before they draw blood for it what test you want...it looks at the genetic level of the cat..at the genetic level any change anywhere in teh body can be seenand the FeLV virus is a retrovirus..which means it alters teh cats genetic code Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 5:11:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I meant it looses it's potency in the cat. OH.well what it does is that since the human interferon is not the exact natural horomone...the cat can become immune to its effects...just like any other drug...so that is why the common protocol is 7 days on and 7 days off..to give teh body time to become unaquainted with it..Akira is on it 7 days a week...all the time...I decided this after seeing her in noticibly worse health each week she was off it..she slept more, wouldn't eat, adn was depressed.so what I do is give it to her 7 days a week..but let myself forget it every once in a while..just to give ehr body a lapse..but not long enough to make her feel badly... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon's rally
In a message dated 1/12/2005 5:28:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I was writing that last paragraph, he got up and walked a few feet to his cat bed and curled up normally in it. It is as if he knew what I was writing.Thanks for being there and being part of this,Michelle thank you for letting US be apart of this...it is absolutly amazingprayer and tender loving care is so powerful..adn you adn him are eximplary examples of it!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
ng guy...much like Indy..but a bit more hellionish...if that makes sence? After he was UTD I just let him loose...he had been crated, while not UTD, and in a room they could play paws with under the door some tooso they just had to get used to him... Hope any of that helps...I know its not really techniques...but I find I learn better by examples...so... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon's rally
In a message dated 1/12/2005 6:21:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It has been very heartening and strengthening for me to have your support like this. You can not imagine. Thanks,Michelle Michelle, I hope you dont mind but I also posted about Simon and you to my AC list...the group owner is Carla Pearson..if you know her...she is a very talented AC, Reiki,and other spiritual aspectsshe has a healing circle in her classes every Wednesday... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 7:04:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wonderful tips I myself have a cat room, and any new member starts there for an hour or a day then, after the inital sniffing I let them looseso far so good not many fights and never big. your welcomeI never had any big fights until Mona..who is blue by the ways...hense "blue demon" I was so heartbroken by it..I was convinved I was going to have to giver her up..but I jsut kept telling her that if she wanted to stay at my house she COULD NOT act that way..and if she DARED to hurt Akira..she was finding a new home...she has never once tried to attack Akira..even though Akira insists on being nasty to her Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Sharing food
In a message dated 1/12/2005 7:12:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am convinced they understand EVERYTHING...they just have selective hearing. YOu are SOOO right.. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon's rally
In a message dated 1/12/2005 7:25:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I'm back in time but what is a "Reiki"? I have no clue what it is. It is a form of alternative healing..done much more on a spiritual levelit helps the body's energy flows and the spirtual healing belived to be needed in physical healing... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV - PCR test
In a message dated 1/12/2005 11:29:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Lisa - just wondering - Why is it an invasive painful procedure? Gloria b/c they must actually asspirate the bone marrow..which means they must actually go in with a small drill.../..BIG needle and puncture the bone...and remove bone marrow from inside...they usually do it while they are asleep I believe...but not always Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV - PCR test
In a message dated 1/12/2005 11:38:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The bone marrow biopsy is the painful bit. I can NOT imagine any vet being able, let alone trying, to do one on an aware feline. You don't have to use bone marrow to have a PCR test, blood will work too. Oh no..I know that..the only reason I threw that in was that I thought someone on this list a t one point siad they had it doen adn the animals was tranqued...but not out... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: rabbit dental
In a message dated 1/11/2005 6:49:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin certainly is one lucky wabbit!! ttamara stickler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. And I thought having guinea pigs, dogs and cats could get complicated.I think I'll stay away from rabbits! Dont Guinea pigs teeth grow just like rabbits, and hamsters do too?...so they "CAN" have the same problems? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon update, Tuesday
In a message dated 1/11/2005 11:17:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume that without food he will get weak enough soon that he won't want to walk around, or sick enough that it will be no question as to what I should do. I wish that one of these times when he falls asleep purring he will just slip off quietly. Without food..either the liver or kidneys will shut down..I dont remember which one..How is his jaundice? Have you tried making him the liver shake..or letting him have bits of raw chicken livers? It would help the anemia..adn I dont kow many cats who can refuse to eat them...even when sick...does someone have that recepie to post? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: third try, Growler is gone
Bless you and Growler...just keep peace in knowing she is pain free,a nd running through mouse filled fields now Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: rabbit dental
In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:12:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lisa, yes they do (as do all rodents), butguinea pigs hamsters, micedon't typically live as long as rabbits, so I think overall there is less chance of developing those complicationsor perhaps I was just lucky. Ho long can rabbits live? My guinea pig was.7-8 yrs old when she passed..and it was NOT normal..I felt so horrible for her...actually since there eseem to be some rodent savy peeps on..Ill ask about it...After it happened I spoke with a vet who said it sounded like she had a tumor...or something..in her brain...rupture...killing her ALMOST instantly... I woke up to her squeeliing terribly, running around her cage..aimlessly, running into the sides of it head on, bleeding out of her nose and ears...and eyes...I rushed to her and picked her up, she was pantinng heavily when she collapsed and was gone...she was or seemd 100% fine up until that momentthe vet I spoke to said it was fairly common? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon is pale but nibbling and purring again
In a message dated 1/9/2005 1:00:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It may have been the Cipro that made him feel so terrible, because he is back to nibbling at food (ate about 4 or 5 pieces of dr food and two bites of wet food just now) and wanting belly rubs and purring. He is deathly pale, though, so I think his PCV must still be plunging. I will keep trying to get him to nibble throughout the night, as I am afraid to syringe him again. I think he does not have much time left, and I want him to remain content.Thanks and please keep him in your prayers, Have you tried giving him a Liver shake? the recipie is in the archives somehwere..or mabey just on our website.that may help his pcv valueeven raw chicken livers..that would help even more...perhaps someone has teh recipie on hand... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: I told my son
In a message dated 1/9/2005 1:27:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell me more, I do not know about animal communication, I know that in another email topic, animal communicating was discussed. they say all of us can do it...we just have to learn to pay attention..and belive what we hear...but obviously some of us are more in tuned than anotheran AC is one of those people...but then again..some are more skilled in different beliefs and areas than othersAC involves speaking directly to the soul of a creature...or even to its higher being..and "oversoul" and AC would contact Snowball for you and speak to him..see if he has any messages for you to knowetc.of course you want to make sure you get an honest and reliable personand of course some cost more than others..the list leader of the yahoo AC group I am on is a very knowladgable and"famous": woman in this regard...she gives workshops and has several books and tapes as well, to try and help others interested in it learn how to really communicate her name is Carla...dont remember her last...ill post teh link to the group at the bottom of this..so you can see there...they also list the names of several other professionals on there that are highly trustworthy...but as others have allready posted there are several on this list who have personal experiences with a few other AC's adn have had good luck http://groups.yahoo.com/group/animalcommunication/?yguid=138456350 Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/9/2005 1:52:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: was under the impression that the Interferon helps with pain, and discomfort. Interferon has nothing to do with pain and discomfort..it is a natural "hormone" found in all bodies that aids in the immune system reactions, and replications. so it in essence helps to keep the virus at bay..by supporting the immune system..helping it out Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon
In a message dated 1/9/2005 3:02:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really do just want to do what is best for him, but just do not know what that is.Michelle Michelle, Have you spoken to your vet since this newest happenings? I know it is hard...but be it you or your partners decision...YOU know him best...If your not sure than mabey it isnt time...have you tried contacting an AC about it..and perhaps they could see what is really happening..weather he is getting better, dying, or if his soul is allready gone...That could help you decide what is right..to know what he wantsI know everyone knows how much I love poetry in hard times..I hope these may ease your pain IF I SHOULD GROW FRAIL If it should be that I grow frail and weakAnd pain does keep me from my sleep,Then will you do what must be donefor this - the last battle -can't be won. You will be sad I understandBut don't let grief then stay your hand.For on this day, more than the restYour love and friendship must stand the test. We have had so many happy years,You wouldn't want me to suffer so.When the time comes, please, let me go. Take me to where my needs will end,Please, stay with me till the end.And hold me firm and speak to meUntil my eyes no longer see. I know in time you will agreeIt is a kindness you do to me.Although my tail its last has waved,From pain and suffering I have been saved. Don't grieve that it must now be youWho has to decide this thing to do.We've been so close - we two -these years,Don't let your heart hold any tears. (author unknown) __ May I Go? by Susan A. Jackson May I go now? Do you think the time is right? May I say goodbye to pain-filled days and endless lonely nights? I've lived my life and done my best, an example tried to be. So can I take that step beyond and set my spirit free? I didn't want to go at first, I fought with all my might. But something seems to draw me now to a warm and living light. I want to go I really do. It's difficult to stay. But I will try as best I can to live just one more day. To give you time to care for me and share your love and fears. I know you're sad and afraid, because I see your tears. I'll not be far, I promise that, and hope you'll always know that my spirit will be close to you wherever you may go. Thank you for loving me. You know I love you too, that's why it's hard to say goodbye and end this life with you. So hold me now just one more time and let me hear you say, because you care so much for me, you'll let me go today. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:25:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: found out this afternoon, that one other tested positive, so that is probally the case. I am just having a hard time swallowing the fact that the way it happened seems to be so uncommon. No not really..several member on here have found out this very way...that another of their kitties was a dormant carrier and never knew it until another cat they had became sick and died..the WAY he died is a bit odd..but I would lay a guess that there was something else going on as well..be it FeLV related or not.that is why I suggested an autopsy to be done Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:30:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I do not want to have this happen again. I am nervous and scared but, I almost have a drving force to replace that place in my heart. Well, Since you now know that one of your others is positive..this is what I would do...JMO...I would make sure everyone else is UTD on their vaccinations..you said they all still tested negative...SO..they have allready been exposed..more than likely..if they havent caught it yet..they wont catch it at all...leave all of them togeather, and for your next kitty, try and adopt another FeLV+ kitty. There are far to many of them..and far to few homes, rescues, and sanctuaries for themagain...that's just what I would do... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:51:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have major guilt that I can not shake. That is ok..and understandable..it is a part of grieveing..I think we all do it...but what is important is being able to move on past the guilt, to understanding, graetfullness to you Snowball, and the time you had with him...I think you will find many of us here understand..and poems always help me...how about this one? LEND ME A KITTEN"~Julia A. Morrison~ I will lend to you for a whilea kitten, God said.For you to love while he lives,and mourn when he's gone. Maybe for twelve or fourteen years,or maybe two or three.But will you, 'till I call him back,take care of him for me? He'll bring his charms to gladden youand should his stay be brief,you'll always have his memoriesas solace for your grief. I cannot promise he will stay,since all from earth return.But there are lessons taught belowI want this kitten to learn. I've looked the whole world overin search of teachers true,And from the folk that crowds life's landI have chosen you. Now will you give him all your love,nor think the labor vain?Nor hate me when I come to takemy kitten home again? And my heart replied,"My Lord, Thy Will Be Done."For all the joys this kitten brings,the risk of grief I'll run. We'll shelter him with tenderness,we'll love him while we may.And for the happiness that we've known,forever grateful stay. But should you call him backmuch sooner than we planned,We'll brave the bitter grief that comes,and try to understand. If by our love we've managedyour wishes to achieve,in memory of his sweet sweet love,please help us while we grieve. When our cherished kittendeparts this world of strife,Please send yet another needing soulfor us to love all his life. I know its hard...but God always has a purpose..mabey there is another soul who needs your and your sons love.. Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon is worse again already
In a message dated 1/8/2005 5:39:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He is not mewing or crying or breathing funny or anything. Do you think this means he is not in so much distress that I need to worry I am doing wrong by him by letting him be? Animals feel pain, and distress in a much different way than we do...for him being sick for so long..I am sure he is probally hiding it...he may just feel too bad to be "in it" much more..but also when their bodies are so far gone..often times the soul is in and outif the pain gets to be to much, the soul "seperates" itself from the body for a tiem...mabey that is why he is so vaccant looking Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/8/2005 8:45:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That was beautiful, and thank you for sharing it with me and usI needed that Cherie Your welcome Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: I told my son
In a message dated 1/8/2005 9:11:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dreams about Snowball can be a good thig, she may be trying to lethim know she is OK. More into this..I was going to...suggest this as well..but forgot...perhaps it would help ease your grief, and your "what ifs" if you were to hire a animal commmunicator..one who is skilled with contacting spirits who have allready passed...that you might be able to speak to Snowball and hear from himself he is ok Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:17:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everyone has beed tested recently, my concern is that it happened so fast and so consuming. If everyone has been tested recently..and ALL were negative..then no one is sheding the virus...if his parents were 100% negative..I see absolutly no way he came into contact with the virus!!! UNLESS he got outside? did he mabey escape? even just onceIf all th cats were tested recently...and they were all negative..then I would call for an autopsy..this vet may have just "jumped to conclusions" based on..I dunno what...but with what you first said..about her deciding Snowball had FeLV based on her platelet and white blood cell count..and now that all your other kitties are 100% negativethere is NO WAY he was positive!!! UNLESS he did come into contact with another cat at somepoint...think..think ...think... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: thank you
In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:41:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (I'm not questioning your vetting the rabbit, I heard of hampster with gallstones and had a guinea pig with strepthroatI'm just curious about the dental.) Ive had a Guinea pig neutered my Parents did that one..found the vet adn everything..I was amazed..I was only like 12? Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cherie,Did you mean your cat tested negative? Or tht he did test positive? I was wondering about that too!!! If your other kitty tested positive..then she gave it to Snowball...proablly Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/7/2005 1:46:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: unless one of my cats carries it. If they carried it and were SHEDDING the virus...that is the only way he could have been infected..if they are shedding the virus...they would show a positive on the ELISA Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Pilgrim's second ELISA
In a message dated 1/7/2005 2:40:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On whether we had the capacity to set up permanent quarters for FeLV cats: not really. It's been very inconvenient and cumbersome to close off the dining room and sunroom for Pilgrim. We had to block a pass-through from the kitchen which blocks our view of the entire backyard. To add to the mix in our small home, we're adopting two beautiful children from Guatemalain the next couple months! Life just can't get more exciting than this!! Rhonda That's wonderful Rhonda..about the kids..however about Pilgrim..I would call that positive...even if only fainlty..it might be that his body is winning the figh..but still fighting..I would still support his immune system with the Interferon adn supplements... Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: FeLV
In a message dated 1/7/2005 3:35:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amber which is the one that came up positive, she was tested twice before and she was negative, so it must have been dormant or hidding somewhere. So one of them DID come up psoitive...then that is for sure where he got it from..I know you said you were feeling guilty about them having contact..but please dont...I know its hard not to...but if she tested negative previously then there was no way for you to have known..vets dont bother to teach owners about anything like that...its so sadwe had a big disscussion on another list Im on about vaccinations adn yearly vaccinations only being left so b/c vets want to make money..or to get the animals in for examsI think instead they should focus on yearly FeLV tests..in all catsthat way, they would still get to see the animals for exams..., but not have to overvaccinate to do itif they just stressed how important it was for yearly tests in all catsthen mabey it would be more widley known Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Simon stopping chemo and does not have long
Oh Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about Simon..I will definantly pray for hispoor guy You adn him have fought so hard Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Fw: new with a ? on ELISA vs IFA
That is wonderful you didn't put her down right away!!! Also if your vet is still insistant on putting her down..or trying to talk you into it...find another vet..one who really knows what is going on!!! If the ELISA test is + and the IFA is negative..it could mean that the virus hasnt "taken hold" yet..and she is still fighting trying to get rid of it..I would recommend boosting her immune system as much as possible!! Use Interferon, Echinaeciea (sp), and Lysine, and whatever other supplements you can find..the Interferon is Rx onlya liquid given orally. She just MAY be able to win and truly become negative!!! Also I would keep her isolated until the recommended retest time of 90 days at least..before you really decide what to do. in 90 days (during which you are boosting her immune system), retest her with teh ELISA and IFA..see what the outcome is thenSome cats can throw false test resultswhich is also a possibility..there are so many!! Are all your other kitties FeLV vaccinated? and UTD? I have 4 cats..only one is FeLV +, they are all togeather...and everyone else is still negative..of course they get boosters yearly, and they also get retested yearly..many others on the group also do this GOOD LUCK!!! Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
Re: Fw: new with a ? on ELISA vs IFA
In a message dated 1/6/2005 2:20:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IF you decide to vaccinate Pilgrim with the FeLVvaccination now that she is can not currently negative, Icannot stress to you enough the importance of havingher tested BEFORE ANY vaccinations are given.This is due to the fact that IF she does convert backto a FeLV positive status you DO NOT want to have theFeLV vaccination administered. It would be adouble-dose of the virus and will only make her moresick, if not kill her. Once her immune system iscompromised with the Feline Leukemia it most likelywill NOT withstand another attack from thevaccination. I just wanted to jump in here..that is not really correct. The FeLV vaccination will not hurt a + kitty any more than any other vaccination. The FeLV vaccination is a KILLED VIRUS. It can not cause the virus or cause a "double dose" of it..if the cat already has the virus, then its body is allready trying to fight it,and there are allready antibodies..the vaccination will not "double dose" the cat with the virusHOWEVER it wont do them any good either for obvious reasons. Vaccinations in general though..are a different story..and againpersonal preference...many wont give them past the initial kitten vaccination..they believe it just harms the immune system, and is unessacary...I believe this..with the exception of the FeLV vaccination for my negatives...since I mix mine Lisaand fur-bratsAkira--FeLV miracle baby www.geocities.com/anzajaguar Indy-- Truley Indian Jones as a cat..FEARLESSLance- Mini wire haired dashchundBow-Tie- 2yr old (sss he doesnt know he is 15 :) ) jack russel crossBennie Bird-- Vampire cockatielAnza-- sexist Senegal parrot..deffinantly a ladies bird :)
