RE: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
I cannot be a lot of help, I 'm afraid. I recently moved up to a new computer and have yet to sort out the audio issues. I had a SoundBlaster Live! card that I moved to new computer (it has digital out for my speakers) but I cannot seem to access its soundbank. The Audigy card is installed also but I cannot find it in audio devices. They may be conflicting with each another somehow. Try looking at programs -> creative -> soundblaster audigy ADVANCED MB -> soundfont bank manager, and try to install the Milburn-normal.sf2 there. Richard >-Original Message- >From: George Ports [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:28 AM >To: finale@shsu.edu >Subject: Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound > >Hi Richard, >I should have known that you'd be the one that could help >me since you help a lot on this great list. Both of your sound >fonts would work real good for me. Didn't know how or where to >install the Milburn-normal.SF2 font. I'd like to be able to >use it in any program I have on my computer of course. >How much do you charge for the font? How much for the 32MB >font? Can you advise me on how to install it or them in the >right place on my computer? I have winfinale 2006b on a winXP >computer with an Audigy sound card. >Thanks so much for your help. >George >- Original Message - >From: "Richard Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:08 PM >Subject: RE: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound > > >> You will not find a good guitar sound in collections. After long >> search I finally gave up and made my own soundfont. You can >download it at: >> >> http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Milburn-normal.SF2 (4.7MB) >> >> Note that this only has 'normal' tone. The complete soundfont (32MB) >> has other patches for staccato, ponticello, tasto, gliss, >vibrato,etc. >> Demos using the complete font can be heard at: >> >> http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Arabe-Demo.mp3 (a very cheesy >> interpretation of Capricho Arabe to show off the font). >> >> http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Colloquio.mp3 (a more restrained and >> convincing example using Angelo Gilardino's Colloquio) >> >> http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/01-Pastorale-V-G-F.mp3 (Debussy trio >> arranged for Flute, Viola, and Guitar (replacing harp) - The >flute and >> viola are soundfonts also.) >> >> http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/02-Interlude-V-G-F.mp3 >> >> http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/03-Final-V-G-F.mp3 >> >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Richard Yates >> >> >> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: George Ports [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:47 AM >>>To: Finale Forum >>>Subject: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound >>> >>>I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good >>>guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the >>>midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, >and Band in >>>a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all >sound like >>>a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone >might know >>>of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play >>>the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. >Any help I >>>can get would really be appreciated. >>>Thanks, >>>George Ports >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
Hi Richard, I should have known that you'd be the one that could help me since you help a lot on this great list. Both of your sound fonts would work real good for me. Didn't know how or where to install the Milburn-normal.SF2 font. I'd like to be able to use it in any program I have on my computer of course. How much do you charge for the font? How much for the 32MB font? Can you advise me on how to install it or them in the right place on my computer? I have winfinale 2006b on a winXP computer with an Audigy sound card. Thanks so much for your help. George - Original Message - From: "Richard Yates" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound You will not find a good guitar sound in collections. After long search I finally gave up and made my own soundfont. You can download it at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Milburn-normal.SF2 (4.7MB) Note that this only has 'normal' tone. The complete soundfont (32MB) has other patches for staccato, ponticello, tasto, gliss, vibrato,etc. Demos using the complete font can be heard at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Arabe-Demo.mp3 (a very cheesy interpretation of Capricho Arabe to show off the font). http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Colloquio.mp3 (a more restrained and convincing example using Angelo Gilardino's Colloquio) http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/01-Pastorale-V-G-F.mp3 (Debussy trio arranged for Flute, Viola, and Guitar (replacing harp) - The flute and viola are soundfonts also.) http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/02-Interlude-V-G-F.mp3 http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/03-Final-V-G-F.mp3 Let me know what you think. Richard Yates -Original Message- From: George Ports [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:47 AM To: Finale Forum Subject: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
Hi there list, there is one Sibelius Academy project wich deals with that matter, i didnt go so deep on it but it looks quite interesting and the samples sounds great the project is "soundind score" http://www2.siba.fi/soundingscore/guitar.html PS: happy new year to everyone :-) From: timothy.key.price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply To: finale@shsu.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:14:58 PM Have you tried a sampling synthesizer? I use a Kurtzweil 2500 but there are lots, either a keyboard or just a rack mount. Tim On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:46 PM, George Ports wrote: I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports _ Descarga gratis la Barra de Herramientas de MSN http://www.msn.es/usuario/busqueda/barra?XAPID=2031&DI=1055&SU=http%3A//www.hotmail.com&HL=LINKTAG1OPENINGTEXT_MSNBH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
Richard Yates wrote: You will not find a good guitar sound in collections. After long search I finally gave up and made my own soundfont. You can download it at: Without stealing Richard's thunder, I also need to mention the Samplesmith guitar font that my friend Keith and I developed. Check out his demos and soundfont at: www.samplesmith.com Bruce Petherick ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
You will not find a good guitar sound in collections. After long search I finally gave up and made my own soundfont. You can download it at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Milburn-normal.SF2 (4.7MB) Note that this only has 'normal' tone. The complete soundfont (32MB) has other patches for staccato, ponticello, tasto, gliss, vibrato,etc. Demos using the complete font can be heard at: http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Arabe-Demo.mp3 (a very cheesy interpretation of Capricho Arabe to show off the font). http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/Colloquio.mp3 (a more restrained and convincing example using Angelo Gilardino's Colloquio) http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/01-Pastorale-V-G-F.mp3 (Debussy trio arranged for Flute, Viola, and Guitar (replacing harp) - The flute and viola are soundfonts also.) http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/02-Interlude-V-G-F.mp3 http://www.yatesguitar.com/misc/03-Final-V-G-F.mp3 Let me know what you think. Richard Yates >-Original Message- >From: George Ports [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:47 AM >To: Finale Forum >Subject: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound > >I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has >a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried >to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks >version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good >guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like >a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a >good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar >into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I >can get would really be appreciated. >Thanks, >George Ports >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
George, The programs you mention (Finale, PowerTracks, BIAB etc) do not generate the sounds - they simply send instructions to something called a "MIDI Device", which converts the instructions into sounds. MIDI devices can be either a piece of hardware (such as a soundcard inside your computer or an external box of electronics) or maybe a special software program. You can see which MIDI device Finale is using if you click on MIDI in the top Menu bar and click on MIDI Setup... The sound you are hearing is being made by the device listed in the box marked MIDI Out. If you click on the little down arrow at the right of the MIDI Out box you will see a list of the devices installed on your machine. You can try choosing any of these and then play your file to see if the sound it makes is any more to your liking. If they all still sound like a piano then the problem is probably in your file - you may not have set up instrumental sounds for each of the staves in your score. To do this, click on Window in the menu bar and choose Instrument List and you'll see a list of the staves and the instrument sounds for each one (if not, click on the button View by Staves at the bottom of the screen). Make sure a guitar sound is selected for your guitar staff (for example enter 25 in the column marked Prog to get a Nylon Guitar sound), check the box at the bottom marked "Send patches before Play" then click on the X box at the top right corner to close the window. Hope this solves the problem! Peter - Original Message - From: George Ports To: Finale Forum Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:46 PM Subject: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
I was hoping that PowerTracks 11 would be good enough. Guess not, huh? I forgot to mention that I have an Audigy sound card. George - Original Message - From: "Eric Dannewitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound Um, purchase a better software sampler? Native Instruments Bandstand, or Garritan Jazz Band. There are a lot of choices out there. The built in Finale sounds are, um, to be nice, very dated. George Ports wrote: I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
I have a Yamaha PSR85 keyboard but, couldn't find a guitar sound that I liked. I forgot to mention that I have an Audigy sound card. George - Original Message - From: "timothy.key.price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound Have you tried a sampling synthesizer? I use a Kurtzweil 2500 but there are lots, either a keyboard or just a rack mount. Tim On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:46 PM, George Ports wrote: I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
Have you tried a sampling synthesizer? I use a Kurtzweil 2500 but there are lots, either a keyboard or just a rack mount. Tim On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:46 PM, George Ports wrote: I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
Um, purchase a better software sampler? Native Instruments Bandstand, or Garritan Jazz Band. There are a lot of choices out there. The built in Finale sounds are, um, to be nice, very dated. George Ports wrote: I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Getting a good guitar sound
I want to notate a song in Finale, save it as a midi that has a good guitar sound. All of the different programs I've tried to import the midi file to such as Finale 2006b, PowerTracks version 11, and Band in a box 2004 don't seem to have a good guitar sound. They all sound like a piano trying to sound like a guitar. I was hoping someone might know of a way to get a good guitar sound without actually having to play the guitar into the computer to achieve this. I have winXP. Any help I can get would really be appreciated. Thanks, George Ports ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
