Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Lee wrote: Maybe the Fit Music facility built into Finale will work for you. You can find it under the Utilities menu, or Mass Mover for older version of Finale. Ahh, *that* Fit Music! Actually, I don't use that one because it doesn't do what Tobias's does. With his you can select, say, 100 measures and tell the plugin to spread that music over 13 systems, or 15 systems, or whatever. It'll do that, and space it evenly across the given systems. The beauty of it is that it doesn't matter if measures have lots of notes or few notes: it'll all be evenly spaced across systems. With the built-in Finale Fit Measures you have to pick a number of measures per line and go with that -- which is problematic if some measures have, say, 16 16th notes and some have whole notes. My problem with TGTools recently is that it hasn't always spaced evenly across the systems like it was supposed to (going back to 2011). That was my initial query. Andrew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Hi, all, I just enabled TGTools Lite, which came with Finale 2012. There *is* no Fit Music command in this mini-plugin. Does it exist for someone else out there in FinaleLand? Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
I don't think it's in the lite version. I have it in the version I bought. Rick On 7/8/2012 8:49 AM, Andrew Levin wrote: Hi, all, I just enabled TGTools Lite, which came with Finale 2012. There *is* no Fit Music command in this mini-plugin. Does it exist for someone else out there in FinaleLand? Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Rick Neal Teacher, Composer, Bassist, Guitarist, Arranger rickm...@gmail.com nea...@mcsk12.net http://www.teacherweb.com/tn/stlouis/rickneal ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Maybe the Fit Music facility built into Finale will work for you. You can find it under the Utilities menu, or Mass Mover for older version of Finale. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Levin Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:49 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012 Hi, all, I just enabled TGTools Lite, which came with Finale 2012. There *is* no Fit Music command in this mini-plugin. Does it exist for someone else out there in FinaleLand? Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Selection tool - select region, Command/Shift/M, and a dialog appears that does what I need to fit music in a specific range of systems. On Jul 8, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Lee Actor wrote: Maybe the Fit Music facility built into Finale will work for you. You can find it under the Utilities menu, or Mass Mover for older version of Finale. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Levin Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:49 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012 Hi, all, I just enabled TGTools Lite, which came with Finale 2012. There *is* no Fit Music command in this mini-plugin. Does it exist for someone else out there in FinaleLand? Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 8831 SE 12th Ave. Portland, OR 97202-7097 land line: (503) 954-2107 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com www.chuckisraelsjazz.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Lee Wrote: There is a Fit Measures TGTool, as well as a function of the same name (and similar capabilities) built into Finale. Are you both referring to the same thing? I'm referring to the the Fit Music that's part of the full, purchased TGTools. That's what gives me trouble. Since I removed the original TGTools (Lite?) so there's be no conflict with the full version, I'll have to switch them out to try this. Does anyone run both versions simultaneously, without problems? Andrew Levin iMac OS X 10.7.5 Finale 2012b ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Does anyone run both versions simultaneously, without problems? there shouldn't be an issue at all, they are functionally different PIs. and i installed TGTool 2.6 on 2012b but haven't removed lite, so far no aliens jumped out of my dumbputer because of it ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
By far the TGTool that I use the most is Fit Music, where you can highlight whatever section of the music you want and tell Finale to fit it into X number of systems. I use this for virtually every piece I work on. Or almost all… In 2011 and now 2012 it seems broken. Sometimes it just doesn't space music evenly, cramming some systems full of music and leaving others pretty sparse. Sometimes re-doing the command fixes it, but more often not. If it doesn't fit in, say 17 systems, I'll try 16 or 18 -- sometimes it works, sometimes not. VERY frustrating.. Does anyone else run into this problem? I haven't seen mention of it, and I can't imagine being the only one. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
I also use Fit Music extensively. I have not noticed any problems at all with using it in 2011 or 2012. Rick Neal On 7/5/2012 1:49 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: By far the TGTool that I use the most is Fit Music, where you can highlight whatever section of the music you want and tell Finale to fit it into X number of systems. I use this for virtually every piece I work on. Or almost all… In 2011 and now 2012 it seems broken. Sometimes it just doesn't space music evenly, cramming some systems full of music and leaving others pretty sparse. Sometimes re-doing the command fixes it, but more often not. If it doesn't fit in, say 17 systems, I'll try 16 or 18 -- sometimes it works, sometimes not. VERY frustrating.. Does anyone else run into this problem? I haven't seen mention of it, and I can't imagine being the only one. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Rick Neal Teacher, Composer, Bassist, Guitarist, Arranger rickm...@gmail.com nea...@mcsk12.net http://www.teacherweb.com/tn/stlouis/rickneal ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
There is a Fit Measures TGTool, as well as a function of the same name (and similar capabilities) built into Finale. Are you both referring to the same thing? -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Neal Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012 I also use Fit Music extensively. I have not noticed any problems at all with using it in 2011 or 2012. Rick Neal On 7/5/2012 1:49 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: By far the TGTool that I use the most is Fit Music, where you can highlight whatever section of the music you want and tell Finale to fit it into X number of systems. I use this for virtually every piece I work on. Or almost all. In 2011 and now 2012 it seems broken. Sometimes it just doesn't space music evenly, cramming some systems full of music and leaving others pretty sparse. Sometimes re-doing the command fixes it, but more often not. If it doesn't fit in, say 17 systems, I'll try 16 or 18 -- sometimes it works, sometimes not. VERY frustrating.. Does anyone else run into this problem? I haven't seen mention of it, and I can't imagine being the only one. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
I use the TGTool Fit Measures because it allows you to specify how many systems you want the highlighted area to use. Rick On 7/5/2012 7:11 PM, Lee Actor wrote: There is a Fit Measures TGTool, as well as a function of the same name (and similar capabilities) built into Finale. Are you both referring to the same thing? -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Neal Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:04 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012 I also use Fit Music extensively. I have not noticed any problems at all with using it in 2011 or 2012. Rick Neal On 7/5/2012 1:49 PM, Andrew Levin wrote: By far the TGTool that I use the most is Fit Music, where you can highlight whatever section of the music you want and tell Finale to fit it into X number of systems. I use this for virtually every piece I work on. Or almost all. In 2011 and now 2012 it seems broken. Sometimes it just doesn't space music evenly, cramming some systems full of music and leaving others pretty sparse. Sometimes re-doing the command fixes it, but more often not. If it doesn't fit in, say 17 systems, I'll try 16 or 18 -- sometimes it works, sometimes not. VERY frustrating.. Does anyone else run into this problem? I haven't seen mention of it, and I can't imagine being the only one. Andrew Levin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- Rick Neal Teacher, Composer, Bassist, Guitarist, Arranger rickm...@gmail.com nea...@mcsk12.net http://www.teacherweb.com/tn/stlouis/rickneal ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] TGTools and F2012
if anyone is using TGTools on 2012, have you had any issues with using shift/accidentals or align dynamics? i know some parts of the PI are not working properly (i had extremely bad things happen when running the update groups PI), but for these simple and straight-forward ones, i am hoping there is no problem...? cheers, jef ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
Align dynamics works (whew!), but shift accidentals spins for a while and then dies (this is on Win7 x64). To my eye, the default spacing for accidentals in a chord is much too wide, and it's very painful to adjust these without an automated tool. Also, smart explosion usually crashes Finale completely, which means a lot more work generating parts -- at least until linked parts can gracefully handle multi-part staves, cues, and different music spacing for scores and parts. -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of SN jef chippewa Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:55 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] TGTools and F2012 if anyone is using TGTools on 2012, have you had any issues with using shift/accidentals or align dynamics? i know some parts of the PI are not working properly (i had extremely bad things happen when running the update groups PI), but for these simple and straight-forward ones, i am hoping there is no problem...? cheers, jef ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
hey lee, i'm not getting this crash at all, are you using TGT 2.6? not sure it would make a diff, but if not, try updating. i got over my fears and installed it and today and it is running more or less as expected, and i think it is even faster on 2012 than it was on 2012, don't know if that is possible (?). i am however discovering that it isn't shifting on some notes, will explore more tomorrow, but maybe was only in the viola voices, so may have to do with how the PI reads the actual pitches... (?) Align dynamics works (whew!), but shift accidentals spins for a while and then dies (this is on Win7 x64). To my eye, the default spacing for accidentals in a chord is much too wide hm, sounds like you haven't explored the settings in the accis tab for accis between 4th, 5ths and 6ths, or the sixths tabs which has even more fine-tuning. also, you prob won't need it (the default settings work even with my custom font), but you can also adjust the values the PI considers to be the default widths of nat b # bb and x. or if you mean the finale default, you can change this in the doc options. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012
I'm using the latest TGT, which on Win is 2.61, and the shift accidentals plugin doesn't work at all for me. My comment on default spacing of accidentals being too wide was meant to refer to the Finale default for notes a fifth or sixth apart, which is what I need the TGT plugin for. It helps some if I change the default spacing between accidentals in doc options from 8 to 5 EVPUs, but this one-size-fits-all approach isn't nearly as good as the plugin was. I want my plugin back! BTW, the plugin never did work properly for chords of more than 2 notes, not a particularly frequent occurrence for me. It does seem very strange that this plugin chokes on my system and not on yours. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of SN jef chippewa Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:10 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] TGTools and F2012 hey lee, i'm not getting this crash at all, are you using TGT 2.6? not sure it would make a diff, but if not, try updating. i got over my fears and installed it and today and it is running more or less as expected, and i think it is even faster on 2012 than it was on 2012, don't know if that is possible (?). i am however discovering that it isn't shifting on some notes, will explore more tomorrow, but maybe was only in the viola voices, so may have to do with how the PI reads the actual pitches... (?) Align dynamics works (whew!), but shift accidentals spins for a while and then dies (this is on Win7 x64). To my eye, the default spacing for accidentals in a chord is much too wide hm, sounds like you haven't explored the settings in the accis tab for accis between 4th, 5ths and 6ths, or the sixths tabs which has even more fine-tuning. also, you prob won't need it (the default settings work even with my custom font), but you can also adjust the values the PI considers to be the default widths of nat b # bb and x. or if you mean the finale default, you can change this in the doc options. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
