Re: [Fink-devel] libao - need 10.5 tester

2010-03-28 Thread Ben Hines
I would rather hand off maintaining these packages to someone else, if you'd
like to take them feel free! Unfortunately distracted with many things these
days so not much time/motivation to work on fink stuff.

thanks,

-Ben

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Max Horn m...@quendi.de wrote:

 Hi Ben, hi fink-devel,

 the Xiph people just released new versions of libogg, libvorbis,
 vorbis-tools... and libao. Yeah, really, after many many years, there is a
 new libao release, and it's now at 1.0.0. They dropped support for 10.4 in
 it, though.

 But after looking through the code, I am concerned that they may have
 (accidentally?) dropped support for 10.5, too: Their code is using
 AudioComponentInstance, and AFAIK this was only introduced in 10.6 (a grep
 through my 10.5 SDK seems to confirm this). Unfortunately I just switched to
 10.6, so I cannot confirm this with a test compile myself.

 So, it would good if somebody with a 10.5 machine could test the attached
 *experimental* libao4 package (yes, they changed the compat version); if
 10.5 support is really broken, a report should be written ASAP.


 Ben: Do you want to adopt libao4 (feel free to use the .info file I made;
 although it still needs more work), or should I take it? And note that IMO
 it makes most sense if a single person maintains both libao2 and libao4

 Thanks!
 Max

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[Fink-devel] Glib

2005-06-03 Thread Ben Hines

Perhaps if it had a maintainer then it would be up to date.

This is silly that we are well over six months behind on such core  
things.


-Ben

On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:


Our glib2 is too old for pygtk2-2.3.x :(

dan

On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 01:02:18PM -0700, Ben Hines wrote:


2.3.4 or later..

On May 26, 2005, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:



How new a version do you need? The latest is 2.6.2, but requires
gtk+2-2.6.x and we're only at 2.4.x there.



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[Fink-devel] Re: Glib

2005-06-03 Thread Ben Hines
According to Michele's post http://article.gmane.org/ 
gmane.os.apple.fink.gnome/1125


The latest glib and gtk+ are binary compatible with 2.6.

Since they are currently unmaintained I'll assume noone has any  
objections to you or anyone updating them.  If you can't do it soon  
i'll go ahead and do so.


thanks

-Ben

On Jun 3, 2005, at 3:14 PM, Ben Hines wrote:


Perhaps if it had a maintainer then it would be up to date.

This is silly that we are well over six months behind on such core  
things.


-Ben

On Jun 2, 2005, at 9:45 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:



Our glib2 is too old for pygtk2-2.3.x :(

dan

On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 01:02:18PM -0700, Ben Hines wrote:



2.3.4 or later..

On May 26, 2005, at 6:26 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:




How new a version do you need? The latest is 2.6.2, but requires
gtk+2-2.6.x and we're only at 2.4.x there.




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[Fink-devel] Validation change

2005-02-12 Thread Ben Hines
I disagree with making ALL of these desc checks only verb  3.  Did you 
mean to only change the  45 char desc warning? (due to bracketing, all 
were lowered to verb 4, which means noone will ever see them.

-Ben
	} elsif (Fink::Config::verbosity_level()  3) {
		# Some pedantic checks
		if (length($value)  45) {
			print Warning: Length of package description exceeds 45 characters. 
($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ m/^[Aa]n? /) {
			print Warning: Description starts with \A\ or \An\. 
($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ m/^[a-z]/) {
			print Warning: Description starts with lower case. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ /\b\Q$pkgname\E\b/i) {
			print Warning: Description contains package name. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ m/\.$/) {
			print Warning: Description ends with \.\. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}


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[Fink-devel] Re: Validation change

2005-02-12 Thread Ben Hines
Sorry that was dmacks :)
Silly cvs.
-Ben
On Feb 12, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Ben Hines wrote:
I disagree with making ALL of these desc checks only verb  3.  Did 
you mean to only change the  45 char desc warning? (due to 
bracketing, all were lowered to verb 4, which means noone will ever 
see them.

-Ben
	} elsif (Fink::Config::verbosity_level()  3) {
		# Some pedantic checks
		if (length($value)  45) {
			print Warning: Length of package description exceeds 45 
characters. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ m/^[Aa]n? /) {
			print Warning: Description starts with \A\ or \An\. 
($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ m/^[a-z]/) {
			print Warning: Description starts with lower case. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ /\b\Q$pkgname\E\b/i) {
			print Warning: Description contains package name. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}
		if ($value =~ m/\.$/) {
			print Warning: Description ends with \.\. ($filename)\n;
			$looks_good = 0;
		}


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[Fink-devel] Contents submission patch(es) for review

2005-02-10 Thread Ben Hines
The deb contents database is pretty much ready for basic testing, see  
the patch here:
experimental/benh57/fink/Reporting.pm
experimental/benh57/fink/reporting.patch

Folks are wondering why i don't make it live. I do want to put it into  
CVS, HEAD actually, but since 24 is imminent it does make sense to wait  
till the new fink is out.

Any objections to me checking in this reporting system to HEAD once .24  
is released? I haven't recieved much feedback on the implementation or  
design of the system. I'd like to get it tested, and it will be easiest  
to get folks to test it if i can put it into CVS. I will fully comment  
out the non-implemented parts in the help.

One other thing holding it up is that i would like to move it to using  
a better mysql server backend. OD.org may not be able to handle the  
very large db this will generate. I am thinking of putting just the  
package details /contents on the alternate SQL server while keeping all  
the main stuff on the sf one.

The search and database is currently here:
http://www.opendarwin.org/~benh57/fink/pdb/search.php
each package version links to a details page with the contents of the  
pkg, like:
http://www.opendarwin.org/~benh57/fink/pdb/package.php/a52dec (click  
the 'unstable' version)
http://www.opendarwin.org/~benh57/fink/pdb/packagedetails.php? 
tree=current-10.3-unstablepkg=a52decversion=0.7.4-1

Other Features:
- different prefixes are handled by changing %p to /sw for the db
- different builds of same pkg shown - (each will be listed, with  
number of votes for each one)
- Since we track votes and such, submitting contents requires an  
account. Currently no functionality for creating new accounts, is done  
manually. First submitter of each build is listed in case we would like  
to contact that person to debug why theirs broke.
- packages not in online PDB are not submitted.
- The system has a shell for submitting package feedback  
(stable/unstable) to maintainers which is not fully implemented.

thanks
-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink PkgVersion.pm,1.351,1.352 ChangeLog,1.842,1.843

2005-02-05 Thread Ben Hines
Why not make 'fink build' ignore the depends line completely in all 
cases?

-Ben
On Feb 5, 2005, at 7:30 AM, TheSin wrote:
Just to clarify this a little, only comment out the depends and use 
'fink build' for testing, make sure you don't commit the pkg with the 
depends commented, they are still needed for install and run time.  
This is just to test that all pkgs can build without the depends line.
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all pkgs such be able fink build foo with out the depends line so 
comment it out and add what is needed to builddep line.


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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink PkgVersion.pm,1.351,1.352 ChangeLog,1.842,1.843

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Hines
All of fink needs to be built with this patch before releasing this. 
We've never audited this policy, my guess is a lot of stuff will break.

-Ben
On Feb 3, 2005, at 10:29 AM, TheSin wrote:
Also this needs to be docu'd and a policy for this needs to be made.  
Lots of perlmods don't comply to this.
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On 3-Feb-05, at 11:07 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/fink/fink/perlmod/Fink
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv23893
Modified Files:
PkgVersion.pm ChangeLog
Log Message:
Buildlocks use BuildDepends only (not Depends), in accord with #fink
that install-time deps are not implicitly also compile-time deps.
Implement get_family_parent().
Index: PkgVersion.pm
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/fink/perlmod/Fink/PkgVersion.pm,v
retrieving revision 1.351
retrieving revision 1.352
diff -u -d -r1.351 -r1.352
--- PkgVersion.pm   1 Feb 2005 17:15:32 -   1.351
+++ PkgVersion.pm   3 Feb 2005 18:07:42 -   1.352
@@ -930,6 +930,15 @@
return @list;
 }
+# returns the parent of the family
+
+sub get_family_parent {
+   my $self = shift;
+   return exists $self-{parent}
+   ? $self-{parent}
+   : $self;
+}
+
 # returns whether this fink package is of a given Type:
 sub is_type {
@@ -2247,8 +2256,8 @@
# generate dpkg control file
 	my ($pkgname, $parentpkgname, $version, $field, $section, 
$instsize);
-	$parentpkgname = $pkgname = $self-get_name();
-	$parentpkgname = $self-{parent}-get_name() if exists 
$self-{parent};
+	$pkgname = $self-get_name();
+	$parentpkgname = $self-get_family_parent-get_name();
 	$version = $self-get_fullversion();
 	$section = $self-get_section();
 	$instsize = $self-get_instsize($destdir$basepath);	# kilobytes!
@@ -2872,37 +2881,15 @@
 Provides: fink-buildlock
 EOF

-	my( @pkglist, $deplist );
-
-	# BuildConflicts of parent pkg are Conflicts of lockpkg
-	if (exists $self-{parent}) {
-		@pkglist = 
@{pkglist2lol($self-{parent}-pkglist('BuildConflicts'))};
-	} else {
-		@pkglist = @{pkglist2lol($self-pkglist('BuildConflicts'))};
-	}
-	$deplist = lol2pkglist([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
-	$control .= Conflicts: $deplist\n if length $deplist;
-
-	# All *Depends of whole family of pkgs are Depends of lockpkg...
-	@pkglist = ();
-	foreach my $pkg ($self-get_splitoffs(1,1)) {
-		push @pkglist, map { @{pkglist2lol($pkg-pkglist($_))} } 
(qw(Depends Pre-Depends BuildDepends));
-	}
-
-	# ...but remove pkgs being built now (avoid chicken-and-egg)
-	my $pkgregex = join |, map { quotemeta($_-get_name()) } 
$self-get_splitoffs(1,1);
-	$pkgregex = qr/^(?:$pkgregex)(?:\s*\(|\Z)/;  # a pkglist atom of 
any of us
-	foreach my $deplist (@pkglist) {
-		# nuke the whole OR cluster if any atom matches
-		# ($deplist is the listref value from @depends so changing
-		# $deplist changes the list linked from @depends; no need
-		# to edit @depends directly)
-		$deplist = [] if grep { /$pkgregex/ } @$deplist;
+	# build (anti)dependencies of pkg family are real 
(anti)dependencies of lockpkg
+	my $parent_pkg = $self-get_family_parent;
+	foreach my $field (qw(Conflicts Depends)) {
+		my $build_field = Build$field;
+		if ($parent_pkg-has_pkglist($build_field)) {
+			$control .= $field: 
.collapse_space($parent_pkg-pkglist($build_field)).\n;
+		}
 	}

-	$deplist = lol2pkglist([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
-	$control .= Depends: $deplist\n if length $deplist;
-
 	### write control file
 	open(CONTROL,$destdir/DEBIAN/control) or die can't write 
control file for $lockpkg: $!\n;
 	print CONTROL $control;

Index: ChangeLog
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/fink/perlmod/Fink/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.842
retrieving revision 1.843
diff -u -d -r1.842 -r1.843
--- ChangeLog   3 Feb 2005 17:32:17 -   1.842
+++ ChangeLog   3 Feb 2005 18:07:43 -   1.843
@@ -1,3 +1,8 @@
+2005-02-03  Daniel Macks  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+
+   * PkgVersion.pm: Change set_buildlock so that Depends are not
+   included. Implement get_family_parent().
+
 2005-02-03  Benjamin Reed  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Notify/Growl.pm: add support for new images, and sticky defaults

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[Fink-devel] Re: Bug ID 3978724: Cups headers are not included

2005-02-04 Thread Ben Hines
They lie. Perhaps they are there on tiger? They aren't on panther, even  
with the dev tools installed.

-Ben
On Feb 4, 2005, at 8:54 PM, John T. Shaw wrote:
I asked a little while back about the cups headers in Mac OS.
Interestingly enough I got a response that said the headers are
included in a developer install.  I guess I was unaware that the
copy of Mac OS I was sent when I joined the ADC was different then the
copy that came pre-loaded on my machine when I purchased it.  At any
rate, they claim the cups headers are in fact there.
John
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Re: Bug ID 3978724: Cups headers are not included
Hello John,
This is a follow-up to Bug ID# 3978724. Our engineering team has
requested some additional information, which is necessary to
investigate this report:
Is this a user install or a developer install? If it is a user
install, then there are no headers.  If you did a developer install,
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Summary:
The cups header files are not included so you can't utilize the
libraries from ported unix programs (or new programs that want to link
against cups).
Steps to Reporduce:
1. If you try and #include cups/cups.h it isn't there.
Expected:
We have the libaries, the program, and the cups-config program for
auto-detecting the cflags, libs, and version.  We just need the
headers.
Actual Results:
We don't have the headers so we can't use the library.
Fix:
When I add the include files to /usr/lib/cups/ from the source package
supplied by Apple I can link and use the libraries as needed.
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Re: [Fink-devel] Libnids, DSniff, and Libnet

2005-02-02 Thread Ben Hines
Yep, it should compile fine now.. i grabbed the patch dports had to 
make it compile.

-Ben
On Jan 30, 2005, at 8:30 PM, John Davidorff Pell wrote:
Thanks a lot. I thought nobody had seen that e-mail.
dsniff is in dports, but I've *never* been able to get it to work 
without manual hackery, so I never got around to packaging it, 
although I had almost working packages in the tracker a year (or 
more?) ago. Does it compile on a clean fink install? Thanx!

JP
On 30 Jan 2005, at 15:29, Ben Hines wrote:

I went ahead and switched libnids to libnet1.0 - and packaged dsniff, 
which was not in fink yet. I dont think a lot of folks have been 
using libnids especially since dsniff wasn't in fink, and the libnids 
was installing directly into /sw which is very bad. So i fixed that 
as well.

Anyway, try the the new dsniff fink pacakge, if its fine i'll move 
all 3 packages to stable tree.

thanks
-Ben
On Apr 12, 2004, at 5:49 PM, John Davidorff Pell wrote:

howdy y'all!
First, i'd like to thank whomever has been keeping the one package I 
maintain updated as we've moved through 10.2-gcc3.3 and 10.3.

Since libnet was split into 1.0 and 1.1 versions, libnids is no 
longer what i want it to be (I use it for dsniff which requires 
libnet 1.0, not 1.1), since libnids is set to depend on 1.1.

I would like to ask what the correct way to fix this is. 
Personally, i think it should be switched to depend on libnet1.0, 
but some people might not like that so what is the correct way to 
provide two package versions? libnids-libnet1.0-1.18-2.info?

Thanks a bunch,
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Re: [Fink-devel] Libnids, DSniff, and Libnet

2005-01-30 Thread Ben Hines
I went ahead and switched libnids to libnet1.0 - and packaged dsniff, 
which was not in fink yet. I dont think a lot of folks have been using 
libnids especially since dsniff wasn't in fink, and the libnids was 
installing directly into /sw which is very bad. So i fixed that as 
well.

Anyway, try the the new dsniff fink pacakge, if its fine i'll move all 
3 packages to stable tree.

thanks
-Ben
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howdy y'all!
First, i'd like to thank whomever has been keeping the one package I 
maintain updated as we've moved through 10.2-gcc3.3 and 10.3.

Since libnet was split into 1.0 and 1.1 versions, libnids is no longer 
what i want it to be (I use it for dsniff which requires libnet 1.0, 
not 1.1), since libnids is set to depend on 1.1.

I would like to ask what the correct way to fix this is. Personally, 
i think it should be switched to depend on libnet1.0, but some people 
might not like that so what is the correct way to provide two package 
versions? libnids-libnet1.0-1.18-2.info?

Thanks a bunch,
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Re: [Fink-devel] Upgrading stuck fink versions

2004-11-28 Thread Ben Hines
We should not put those instructions up unless we know that they work. 
I don't think it will because 0.5.0a bindist doesn't contain that 
version of fink.

The fix on the website was known to work for certain for that specific 
upgrade problem, if there is some other version which also has the 
broken upgrade path, there may be a different fix. There was only that 
one version of fink which could not update properly due to a specific 
problem.

Martin simply wanted to clarify the FAQ item so that people did not do 
it on the wrong version.

-Ben
On Nov 28, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/fink/web/download
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv383/web/download
Modified Files:
fix-upgrade.en.php
Log Message:
Modify for current state of Fink.

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[Fink-devel] Re: startperl with perl584

2004-11-09 Thread Ben Hines
But why shouldn't perl584-core specify /sw/bin/perl5.8.4 as the 
startperl option? Specifying /sw/bin/perl seems inherently broken since 
that file is not included in the -core package.

-Ben
On Nov 9, 2004, at 5:52 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
On Nov 9, 2004, at 3:18 AM, Ben Hines wrote:
perl5.8.4-core does not install /sw/bin/perl, but its Config.pm has: 
startperl='#!/sw/bin/perl'. This messes up my help2man package. I 
tell it PERL is /sw/bin/perl5.8.4 but then it asks for 
$Config{startperl} and perl says /sw/bin/perl. So it no work. I want 
it to use fink perl if its there.

Shouldn't fink perl584 be configured with /sw/bin/perl5.8.4 as the 
startpath?

(from perl's configure)
What shall I put after the #! to start up perl (none to not use #!)?
[/sw/bin/perl]
-Ben
Packaging perl for fink has been a tricky problem.  Basically, perl is 
not designed with the idea that a system would have more than one perl 
installation on it at a time.

I've tried to compile perl with the same compile-time options as Apple 
uses (other than the prefix), to increase the chances of 
compatibility.  But then, to avoid having various fink-installed perls 
stomp on each other, /sw/bin/perl itself is separated out to a package 
of its own (perl584, in the case being discussed).

I'm assuming that if you have complied something with perl 5.8.4, you 
don't want it to be accidentally run with perl 5.8.0, right?  So 
perhaps your package should Depend on perl584, not just perl584-core.

  -- Dave

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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs libdvdnav.info,NONE,1.1 libdvdnav2.info,1.1,NONE

2004-06-13 Thread Ben Hines
On Jun 13, 2004, at 3:06 PM, Justin F. Hallett wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv28997
Added Files:
libdvdnav.info
Removed Files:
libdvdnav2.info
Log Message:
New upstream release, renaming and reclaiming
--- NEW FILE: libdvdnav.info ---
Package: libdvdnav
Wrong
  Replaces: libdvdnav1-shlibs, libdvdnav2-shlibs
This does not conflict with libdvdnav2-shlibs. It is a different major 
version. No files conflict from them.

The old package should remain, and the new package should be called 
'libdvdnav5-shlibs' to comply with the shlibs policy.


  Files: 
lib/libdvdnav.*.dylib
  
  Shlibs: 
%p/lib/libdvdnav.4.dylib 5.0.0 libdvdnav4-shlibs (= 0.1.10-10)
  
See, 5   
-Ben

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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs libdvdnav.info,NONE,1.1 libdvdnav2.info,1.1,NONE

2004-06-13 Thread Ben Hines
Still users could have it from their old installs, still installed. 4 
is fine, If you are going to change the name it should be 4 or 5 but 
not nothing. And it shouldn't conflict with the old once since they 
don't conflict or replace. If you replace/conflict an older shlib major 
with a new one with different vers. package you will BREAK compiled 
apps. (the thing they are linked against will go away, and the app 
won't run anymore)

-Ben
On Jun 13, 2004, at 3:40 PM, TheSin wrote:
well the old one shoudl never have made 10.3
and that is why I didn't move it yet.
and it shouldn't be 5, the policy is very confusing and my pkgs are 
all messed up because of it, I thought that too but I was told by 
others it should be the file name version ie 4 in this case since it's 
libdvdnav.4.dylib.  Anyhow that policy should indeed be clarified but 
i vote for 4, makes more sense to be, since the Shlibs field deals 
with compat.
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On 13-Jun-04, at 4:27 PM, Ben Hines wrote:
The old package should remain, and the new package should be called 
'libdvdnav5-shlibs' to comply with the shlibs policy.


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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/perlmods locale-gettext-pm.info,1.1,1.2

2004-06-11 Thread Ben Hines
The problem is that *581 modules depend on perl581-core, so they fail  
to install in the case where the user replaced the system perl with  
5.8.4, which happened on IRC. He did not have 5.8.1 as the default perl  
so my package man2html refused to install, since fink did not show  
perl581-core as installed. (he does have /usr/bin/perl5.8.1 though)  I  
know its bad to replace your system perl, but i think we should try to  
support it (also, apple is going to upgrade it eventually!)

see what i did to man2html as my fix...
-Ben
On Jun 11, 2004, at 7:00 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Ben:
In most cases, I believe, a 5.8.4 variant for perl modules should not
be necessary.  This is because perl 5.8.4 will actually see -pm581's
as being available.
The cases in which we would need a 5.8.4 variant are cases which depend
on a -pm which is virtually provided by perl584-core.  In that case,
the one provided by perl581-core might not be available, so you could
imagine needing a bunch of -pm584's to handle this.
  -- Dave
From: Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/perlmods  
locale-gettext-pm.info,1.1,1.2

Modified Files:
locale-gettext-pm.info
Log Message:
Add 5.8.4 variant
Index: locale-gettext-pm.info
===
RCS file:  
/cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/perlmods/locale- 
gettext-pm.info,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -d -r1.1 -r1.2
--- locale-gettext-pm.info	27 May 2004 06:01:47 -	1.1
+++ locale-gettext-pm.info	12 Jun 2004 01:35:12 -	1.2
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 Source-MD5: dce77a8733a0e88d8c5fb5bd86ec5f0a
 SourceRename: locale-gettext-pm-%v.tar.gz
 SourceDirectory: gettext-%v
-Type: perl (5.8.1)
+Type: perl (5.8.1 5.8.4)
 UpdatePOD: true
 PatchScript: 
   perl -pi.BAK -e 's,-lintl,-L%p/lib -lintl,' Makefile.PL


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[Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] can't install gramps

2004-06-03 Thread Ben Hines
On Jun 2, 2004, at 7:55 AM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

That's because nautilus-shlibs is only available in the unstable tree 
(which is why a binary isn't available).   By rights, 
gnome-python2-py23 and therefore gramps should not be available in 
stable either, because of this.

Anyway, you'll need to look at 
http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-fink.php?phpLang=en#unstable

Yep.
Actually was given clearance to move the other gnome2 packages to 
stable but have not had time, if anyone feels like moving nautilus (and 
all its deps!) over to stable feel free

-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Patch and PatchScript ignored

2004-05-31 Thread Ben Hines
On May 31, 2004, at 1:39 PM, Martin Langhoff (NZL) wrote:
Ben Hines wrote:
Works fine here, with those info files. (the patch fails, though) 
Perhaps you have an old version of your info file there somewhere. If 
all else fails try putting the revision on 2 and see if 'fink update' 
updates it to 2.
Thanks! Bumping the revision helped. Is this a fink bug, or should I 
be changing revision number every attempt during a debugging session?


Also don't know if you tried it but you can usually just run 'fink  
index' to kick the indexer sometimes. But upping the rev is a good way 
to tell what fink is actually using.

-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Patch and PatchScript ignored

2004-05-30 Thread Ben Hines
On May 29, 2004, at 11:43 PM, Martin Langhoff (NZL) wrote:
Building my 1st fink packages and I cannot for the life of me get 
Patch or PatchScript entries to be observed. Is there any mechanism to 
debug this situation? If I prevent the builddir from being removed, I 
can apply the patch successfully, by hand. Doesn't help too much.

Works fine here, with those info files. (the patch fails, though) 
Perhaps you have an old version of your info file there somewhere. If 
all else fails try putting the revision on 2 and see if 'fink update' 
updates it to 2.

-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Busted /etc due to a fink bug?

2004-05-30 Thread Ben Hines
On May 29, 2004, at 6:04 PM, Martin Langhoff (NZL) wrote:
And that was the last time /etc was seen alive.
After a moment of panic, I fixed it mounting the iBook as a FW device 
-- connected to another mac. Recreated the symlink, easy enough.

However, I find distressing that I was able to do this so... 
effortlessly.

This is not a fink bug... it is an apt/dpkg feature. However, i have in 
the past considered patching dpkg+apt so it will refuse to remove that 
symlink since it is so easy to screw yourself this way. Just haven't 
gotten around to it, feel free.. :)

-Ben

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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils rzip.patch,NONE,1.1 rzip.info,1.1,1.2

2004-05-30 Thread Ben Hines
Revert this
-Ben
On May 27, 2004, at 6:33 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv2740
Modified Files:
rzip.info
Added Files:
rzip.patch
Log Message:
rzip compression program
Index: rzip.info
===
RCS file: 
/cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/utils/rzip.info,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -d -r1.1 -r1.2
--- rzip.info	9 May 2004 17:02:11 -	1.1
+++ rzip.info	28 May 2004 01:33:47 -	1.2
@@ -1,24 +1,19 @@
 Package: rzip
 Version: 2.0
 Revision: 1
-Description: Compression utility for large files
-License: GPL
-Maintainer: rayg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
-Depends: bzip2-shlibs, publib
-BuildDepends: bzip2-dev, publib
-
-Source: http://rzip.samba.org/ftp/rzip/rzip-%v.tar.gz
+Depends: bzip2-shlibs
+BuildDepends: bzip2-dev
+Source: http://%n.samba.org/ftp/%n/%n-%v.tar.gz
 Source-MD5: 8a88b445afba919b122a3899d6d26b2a
-
-SetLIBS: -L%p/lib -lpub
-
-InstallScript: 
- install -d -m 755 %i/bin %i/share/man/man1
- install -m 755 rzip %i/bin/
- install -m 644 rzip.1 %i/share/man/man1/
+Patch: %n.patch
+InstallScript: make install DESTDIR=%d
+Description: An extremely efficient compression program.
+DescDetail: 
+rzip is a compression program, similar in functionality to gzip or
+bzip2, but able to take advantage long distance redundencies in
+files, which can sometimes allow rzip to produce much better
+compression ratios than other programs.
 
-
-DocFiles: COPYING
-
+License: GPL
+Maintainer: Benjamin Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Homepage: http://rzip.samba.org/

--- NEW FILE: rzip.patch ---
--- rzip-2.0/main.c Wed Feb 11 19:01:08 2004
+++ rzip-2.0-new/main.c Thu May 27 21:24:39 2004
@@ -118,7 +118,24 @@
fchown(fd_out, st.st_uid, st.st_gid);
 }  
-   
+static void*
+strndup (const char *src, size_t n)
+{
+   size_t i;
+   char *dst;
+
+   if (src == NULL)
+   return NULL;
+
+   dst = (char*) malloc (n + 1);
+   if (dst != NULL) {
+   for (i = 0; i  n  src[i]; i++)
+   dst[i] = src[i];
+   dst[i] = '\0';
+   }
+
+   return dst;
+}
 /*
   decompress one file from the command line

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] Upgrading to 10.3.4 and emacs21

2004-05-30 Thread Ben Hines
On May 28, 2004, at 7:52 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
but this principle has always been
more a pious wish than reality.
Could you explain in more detail what you mean?
I think it's a pretty accurate comment.  It has been stated goal of 
fink to
make sure that fink packages always compile the same everywhere, but 
we've
never had adequate QA tools to make sure this was happening.
We should have something soon which allows users to submit their builds 
of a package so we can compare them...  see my exp dir and 
http://www.opendarwin.org/~benh57/fink/pdb/package.php/apt as the demo 
site. It does not have a UI for comparing and showing multiple builds 
of package contents, but it that is planned.

-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Checking MacOSX version number

2004-05-30 Thread Ben Hines
On May 28, 2004, at 5:23 AM, Charles Lepple wrote:
Sébastien Maret wrote:
I'm working on a package that compiles and runs only on MacOSX10.3.4, 
because of a libm bug in previous versions.
How can I check in my package the version of MacOSX before compiling ?
actually, I guess you would need both Depends and BuildDepends to 
make sure that people don't install a pre-build binary on older 
versions.

Just Depends.. Depends implies BuildDepends (currently)
-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Checking MacOSX version number

2004-05-30 Thread Ben Hines
On May 30, 2004, at 2:08 AM, Sébastien Maret wrote:
Le 30 mai 04, à 10:56, Ben Hines a écrit :
On May 28, 2004, at 1:40 AM, Sébastien Maret wrote:
I'm working on a package that compiles and runs only on 
MacOSX10.3.4, because of a libm bug in previous versions.
There is no such thing as libm on any OS X. libm is just a symlink to 
libSystem, the standard system library. What bug are you referring 
to?
From the REAME file of Yorick, the package I'm working on:
yorick already has a fink maintainer, david munro.. it wasn't moved to 
the 10.3 tree since it didn't work. Since it does now, it can just be 
updated. See:
http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/yorick

-Ben

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[Fink-devel] Shlibs field

2004-05-15 Thread Ben Hines
On May 15, 2004, at 11:12 AM, Spundun Bhatt wrote:
-   Shlibs: %p/lib/libgsf-1.1.dylib 10.2.0 %n (= 1.8.2-1)
+   Shlibs: %p/lib/libgsf-1.1.dylib 10.2.0 %n (= 1.9.0-1)

To reiterate for everyone, this is wrong.
See  
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/packaging/policy.php? 
phpLang=en#sharedlibs under 'the shlibs field.

Also
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ 
msg05032.html

-Ben

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: readline-4.3-26

2004-05-08 Thread Ben Hines
On May 8, 2004, at 9:21 AM, jfm wrote:

turned up only pari-gp (the executable)_ and that's no problem, since 
otool shows gp links only with ncurses.

This must already cover a fair number of your 70 pkgs ...
So there is no problem then. We can update the 3 packages which have 
the problem.

-Ben



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[Fink-devel] Re: experimental/dmrrsn/perlmods c-scan-pm.info,NONE,1.1 data-flow-pm.info,NONE,1.1 dbi-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 dbi-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 dbi-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 dbix-searchbuilder-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 glib-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 gnome-panel.info,NONE,1.1 gnome-panel.patch,NONE,1.1 gtk-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 gtk2-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 gtkhtml3.info,NONE,1.1 gtkhtml3.patch,NONE,1.1 html-tree-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 interpolation-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 libsablot.info,NONE,1.1 libwww-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 libxml-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 mime-base64-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 rmagic.info,NONE,1.1 template-notex-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 template-notex-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 template-notex-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 template-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 template-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 template-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 term-progressbar-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 uri-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 www-search-altavista-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 www-search-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 xml-dom-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 xml-dom-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 xml-dom-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 xml-libxml-! pm581.info,NONE,1.1 xml-simple-pm5

2004-05-08 Thread Ben Hines
We made variants to get rid of the multiple-info files messiness of 
560* 580*, etc etc, shouldn't add new ones. You should use variant 
packages for any new perl module setup. The old style is extremely 
deprecated.

-Ben

On May 8, 2004, at 6:45 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Modified Files:
bioperl-pm560.info bioperl-pm580.info bioperl-pm581.info
mime-tools-pm581.info soap-lite-pm581.info
soap-lite-ssl-pm581.info xmltv-basic.info xmltv.info
Added Files:
c-scan-pm.info data-flow-pm.info dbi-pm560.info dbi-pm580.info
dbi-pm581.info dbix-searchbuilder-pm581.info glib-pm581.info
gnome-panel.info gnome-panel.patch gtk-pm581.info
gtk2-pm581.info gtkhtml3.info gtkhtml3.patch
html-tree-pm581.info interpolation-pm581.info libsablot.info
libwww-pm580.info libxml-pm580.info mime-base64-pm580.info
rmagic.info template-notex-pm560.info
template-notex-pm580.info template-notex-pm581.info
template-pm560.info template-pm580.info template-pm581.info
term-progressbar-pm581.info uri-pm580.info
www-search-altavista-pm581.info www-search-pm581.info
xml-dom-pm560.info xml-dom-pm580.info xml-dom-pm581.info
xml-libxml-pm581.info xml-simple-pm581.info xtraceroute.info
xtraceroute.patch
Log Message:
more pm revisions


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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: experimental/dmrrsn/perlmods c-scan-pm.info,NONE,1.1 data-flow-pm.info,NONE,1.1 dbi-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 dbi-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 dbi-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 dbix-searchbuilder-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 glib-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 gnome-panel.info,NONE,1.1 gnome-panel.patch,NONE,1.1 gtk-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 gtk2-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 gtkhtml3.info,NONE,1.1 gtkhtml3.patch,NONE,1.1 html-tree-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 interpolation-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 libsablot.info,NONE,1.1 libwww-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 libxml-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 mime-base64-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 rmagic.info,NONE,1.1 template-notex-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 template-notex-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 template-notex-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 template-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 template-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 template-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 term-progressbar-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 uri-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 www-search-altavista-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 www-search-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 xml-dom-pm560.info,NONE,1.1 xml-dom-pm580.info,NONE,1.1 xml-dom-pm581.info,NONE,1.1 xml-libxml-! pm581.info,NONE,1.1 xml-simple-pm5

2004-05-08 Thread Ben Hines
On May 8, 2004, at 3:05 PM, David H. wrote:

Ben Hines wrote:
The old style is extremely deprecated.
^^^
When did we decide on that? Since I was not reading the mailing lists 
for a bit last wekk (was very busy), I might have overlooked the 
discussion, but I am curious and would love to read up. Thanks
Discussion? I don't recall any. Is any needed?

Did we not decide on it?  Everyone has always hated having 65 info file 
versions of each perl package. If we can get rid of them, we should do 
so. Creating new packages using the old form is the wrong direction.

-Ben



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[Fink-devel] Re: readline-4.3-26

2004-05-07 Thread Ben Hines
On May 7, 2004, at 9:38 AM, jfm wrote:

Hi,

Today's update was motivated by :

 Put an end to:
 warning multiple definitions of symbol _BC 
/sw/lib/libreadline.dylib(terminal.so)
  definition of _BC

But since then I got with several programs :

# Singular
dyld: Singular Undefined symbols:
Singular undefined reference to _BC expected to be defined in 
/sw/lib/libreadline.4.dylib
Singular undefined reference to _PC expected to be defined in 
/sw/lib/libreadline.4.dylib
Singular undefined reference to _UP expected to be defined in 
/sw/lib/libreadline.4.dylib
Trace/BPT trap

That did not happen to me. Perhaps it will only occur with programs 
which do not use ncurses, but which do use readline? Which programs ?

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: readline-4.3-26

2004-05-07 Thread Ben Hines
On May 7, 2004, at 4:42 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

That did not happen to me. Perhaps it will only occur with programs 
which do not use ncurses, but which do use readline? Which programs ?
	
Also, at this point we might as well start adding versioned deps on the 
latest readline on anything this effects and rev upping them.  We'll 
have to do it eventually to solve this. Only about 70 packages depend 
on readline, and this problem does not affect them all. I've tried a 
few (older binaries from apt-get) and haven't been able to find even 
one which does it.

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[Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] fink update-all fails.

2004-05-01 Thread Ben Hines
Still a long-time bug in the packaging of db42, which needs to be fixed 
at some point, if anyone feels like figuring out why it happens by 
debugging the dependency resolver.

-Ben

On Apr 30, 2004, at 9:21 AM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

Did you try the suggestion from:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php?phpLang=en#node-exists

?

On Apr 30, 2004, at 12:08 PM, lj Palmer wrote:

Error:
$ fink update-all
/usr/bin/sudo /sw/bin/fink  update-all
Information about 3088 packages read in 3 seconds.
Failed: Internal error: node for db42-ssl-shlibs already exists
Using Fink unstable tree
$ fink --version
Package manager version: 0.20.1
Distribution version: 0.7.0.cvs
Mac OSX: 10.3.3
17 1 gHZ iMac
Any Ideas?

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Re: [Fink-devel] Still 500 packages not moved from 10.2 tree, need help

2004-04-20 Thread Ben Hines
On Apr 19, 2004, at 6:45 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:

We need a mechanism to mark packages as should not be moved to 10.3,
especially if there is going to be a general call to action like this.
This is done. See http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/compare.php now. 
Maintainers can change the status of their packages to green (dont 
move) red (can't move, won't compile) or white (move me).

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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/text cwtext.info,NONE,1.1

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Hines
On Apr 19, 2004, at 12:47 AM, D. Höhn wrote:

|
I suggested this. The University of Tokio will be supplying Fink with
numerous packages, mainly targeted toward the Japanese user. Asari
You should not have done that.

Takashi is only _one_ of the Tutors that take care of the submission 
and
package creation Process at the University of Tokio. He might not 
always
be able to answer requests, thus they created a catch-all account.
If he can't answer requests he can forward them.  I bet it is more 
likely that they will go unheeded to a mailing list rather than to one 
perosn.


This is just similar to fink-gnome, fink-kde. fink-core and so on..
I apologise for failing to explain this. My bad, sorry.
I know, and that is exactly why i was against those and why i am 
against this. This should NOT spread to other packages, it is very bad 
and very negative for the future of Fink.

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[Fink-devel] Still 500 packages not moved from 10.2 tree, need help

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Hines
Still  500 pkgs show 'not moved' from 10.2-gcc3.3 to 10.3. A number of 
these are obsolete, but many are not. Anyone with commit access feel 
free to move over anything that works. (I usually start them out in the 
10.3 tree with the new filename format, but be sure to fix any 
references to the patch file in the info) If a maintainer no longer 
desires to maintain a package they can remove their names from the 
maintainer line once it is in the 10.3 tree, but the package should 
still be moved. (with a 'None' maintainer)

list:

http://homepage.mac.com/bhines/finknotmoved.html

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Re: [Fink-devel] Still 500 packages not moved from 10.2 tree, need help

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Hines
On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:08 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:

On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 04:46:03PM -0700, Ben Hines wrote:
Still  500 pkgs show 'not moved' from 10.2-gcc3.3 to 10.3.

http://homepage.mac.com/bhines/finknotmoved.html
Something's wrong...you list gnome/pygtk2-py* and
libs/term-ansicolor-rb, but they are in 10.3.


I think the #Package: term-ansicolor-rb16 commented out Package fields 
broke my script. (these are old scripts from the 10.1 move, they don't 
call fink and used a sketchy parser.. i updated the script to use some 
of the read_properties_lines regex, but it should really be 
reimplemented. (feel free, if you want.  :)

The new pygtk2 is not showing up because the new pygtk2 is a variant 
package. It can't handle that. There are very few of those though, so 
the count is pretty accurate.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Still 500 packages not moved from 10.2 tree, need help

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Hines
On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:44 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

I think the #Package: term-ansicolor-rb16 commented out Package fields 
broke my script. (these are old scripts from the 10.1 move, they don't 
call fink and used a sketchy parser.. i updated the script to use some 
of the read_properties_lines regex, but it should really be 
reimplemented. (feel free, if you want.  :)
Though actually the best way to implement this would be using the PDB 
(web package database) with some SQL queries... i think i may have even 
done that at one point. I'll look at it again.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Still 500 packages not moved from 10.2 tree, need help

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Hines
On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:47 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:44 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

I think the #Package: term-ansicolor-rb16 commented out Package  
fields broke my script. (these are old scripts from the 10.1 move,  
they don't call fink and used a sketchy parser.. i updated the script  
to use some of the read_properties_lines regex, but it should really  
be reimplemented. (feel free, if you want.  :)
Though actually the best way to implement this would be using the PDB  
(web package database) with some SQL queries... i think i may have  
even done that at one point. I'll look at it again.
Ok, i'm on crack today... I did already implement that :)

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/compare.php?tree1=current-10.2-gcc3.3- 
unstablecmp=0tree2=current-10.3-unstable

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Still 500 packages not moved from 10.2 tree, need help

2004-04-19 Thread Ben Hines
On Apr 19, 2004, at 6:45 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:

All of the packages on that list which have me as the maintainer were
deliberately not moved, and should not be moved.  I will be happy to 
supply
reasons if required.

We need a mechanism to mark packages as should not be moved to 10.3,
especially if there is going to be a general call to action like this.
Yes, i'm going to make one, but you should note the reason in the 
DescPackaging field as well.

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Re: [Fink-devel] new installers

2004-03-30 Thread Ben Hines


On Mar 30, 2004, at 3:36 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:

Release candidates for the new installers are up at:

  http://www.cgtp.duke.edu/~drm/Fink-0.6.3-Installer.dmg
  http://www.cgtp.duke.edu/~drm/Fink-0.7.0-Installer.dmg
The PDB will need some code changes to handle the new release and 
such...   IE, we don't want the 'current package count' bindist to be 
10.2-gcc3.3 anymore i think, and we will want to leave 0.6.2 up there 
and add a 0.7.0 stable area. So it won't be a normal version up, i'll 
need to muck with the php and update scripts slightly.

I'll look at it tomorrow hopefully.

-Ben



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[Fink-devel] Re: web people.fr.php,1.1,1.2

2004-03-05 Thread Ben Hines
Why remove them?

-Ben

On Mar 5, 2004, at 6:02 AM, Mich?le Garoche wrote:

Update of /cvsroot/fink/web
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv4123
Modified Files:
people.fr.php
Log Message:
revert to old version without Language team Leaders
Index: people.fr.php
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/web/people.fr.php,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -d -r1.1 -r1.2
--- people.fr.php   3 Mar 2004 17:51:58 -   1.1
+++ people.fr.php   5 Mar 2004 14:02:13 -   1.2
@@ -64,13 +64,9 @@
 h2Support, traduction et équipe de documentation /h2
 ul
-liLenin Dominguez/li !-- Spanish Team Leader --
+liYoshihiko Baba (ibaba/i)/li !-- i18n and l10n --
 liHisashi Todd Fujinaka (ihtodd/i)/li !-- doc writer --
-liMichèle Garoche (imiga/i)/li !-- French Team Leader --
 liAlexander Hansen/li !-- support work on mailing lists --
-liChristian Putze/li !-- German Team Leader --
-liJeff Ye/li !-- Chinese Team Leader --
-liBaba Yoshihiko (ibaba/i)/li !-- i18n and l10n --
 /ul
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Re: [Fink-devel] binary release plans

2004-02-28 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 28, 2004, at 4:34 AM, Jeremy Higgs wrote:

OK... How come they aren't compliant? Sorry I haven't been keeping 
up... I've started full-time work experience, and have uni starting 
next week on top of that, so I've been very pre-occupied!

Since gramps seems to work fine, I can move gnome-python2 to stable... 
But I still don't get the issue with gnome-python? There are already 
-py22 and -py23 packages for it...

No, there are not... not in 10.3 tree. Those are only in the 
10.2-gcc3.3 tree

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/gnome-python-py22
http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/gnome-python-py23
Any python package which doesn't comply is by definition unstable.. 
they can easily break.

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[Fink-devel] Re: web fink.css,1.16,1.17

2004-02-28 Thread Ben Hines
Yuck.. hmm Maybe if the purple were darker.

On Feb 28, 2004, at 10:25 AM, Max Horn wrote:

Update of /cvsroot/fink/web
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1.sourceforge.net:/tmp/cvs-serv29389
Modified Files:
	fink.css
Log Message:
new color scheme (looks IMO better, but taste will vary :-) this is by 
no means set in stone, of course)


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Re: [Fink-devel] binary release plans

2004-02-27 Thread Ben Hines
gnome-python and hence, gramps need to be removed from stable since 
they aren't compliant with the python policy. The versions in unstable; 
gramps, gnome-python2, pytgtk2-py23, pygtk2-py22 need to be moved to 
stable. I have good reports from gramps users which depends heavily on 
the pygtk and gnome-python2, but no response from maintainers at all.

-Ben

On Feb 27, 2004, at 6:47 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:

I plan to start creating a binary release for 10.3 in about a week.

If you are aware of any of your packages in the 10.3/stable tree which 
are
*not* suitable for binary release, please either fix them or remove 
them
from that tree.

  Thanks,
  Dave
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Re: [Fink-devel] Multiline .info fields: use heredoc instead of RFC-822

2004-02-24 Thread Ben Hines
Why warn at runtime? It doesn't hurt users. It is no big deal, just 
more SPAM. Put the warning in the validation.pm.

-Ben

On Feb 24, 2004, at 1:49 AM, Daniel Macks wrote:

I just converted all the .info files in the 10.2-gcc3.3 and 10.3 trees
and enabled a warning (during indexing) about the now-deprecated
simple indentation format. I didn't do 10.1 or 10.2 b/c by the time


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Re: [Fink-devel] submitting large patches

2004-02-15 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 14, 2004, at 11:49 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote:

I don't know how you count, but I see 149 patch files in 10.2-gcc3.3 
and 10.3 (both stable and unstable) which are above 30k.

Sounds pretty low to me... under 1 percent since you're counting most 
packages 2 or even 3 times. (so you're counting within almost 6000 
files... only 149 is very low)

How many *packages* is it? (stick to ONE tree)

What exactly is your problem here? We need to keep the distribution 
size of fink low. Every fink user has to have these on their disk. Most 
are NOT necessary and we can easily provide a space for them on our 
server.

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Re: [Fink-devel] submitting large patches

2004-02-15 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 15, 2004, at 1:06 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote:

How many *packages* is it? (stick to ONE tree)
Why? If these packages need to be changed, you have to fix/test 149 of 
them. Some might be easy as they are identical in all 4 trees, others 
have maybe 4 different versions. IMO it doesn't matter what percentage 
of the total packages this is. (I guess you will be happy to walk 50 
miles as these is only 1% of 5000 miles, isn't it?)

Er, no, not really. When debating the rarity of large patch files, we 
really don't care if one package happens to be in the stable tree as 
well as the unstable tree. The question is 'how common is it that 
packages have large patch files, and what should the limit be?' At the 
30k level the answer is 'not really very common at all'.

There aren't that many from 20k-30k either. If anything, the limit 
should be lowered to that range, not raised.

My problem is, that you came up with an arbitrary number (30kB) 
without any discussion. There is no clear guidance on how to proceed 
for those packages already in cvs. Does this new limit apply only to 
new packages? Who is going to make the changes? I guess we will have 
to switch back to the 'old' naming scheme for patches stored on a 
server to make them unique.
We set a guideline for the future, you should fix your packages to 
follow it. Eventually, if someone feels like it, they can go through 
the current packages and fix those as well or bug those people to do 
so.

If you want your patch uploaded, you need to talk to fink-core.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/crypto/finkinfo m2crypto-python22.info,NONE,1.1 m2crypto-python22.patch,NONE,1.1 m2crypto-python23.info,NONE,1.1 m2crypto-python23.patch,NONE,1.1

2004-02-14 Thread Ben Hines
Packages submitted to the tracker should be rejected if the .patch 
files are not in unified diff format. That's our standard.

-Ben

On Feb 13, 2004, at 12:29 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:

That appears to be some hard-coded /sw. I don't think the validator
catches it, however...whoever wrote the check for /sw in .patch only
remembered to deal with unified context (diff -u) format.


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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11 xv.info,1.3,1.4 xv.patch,1.1,1.2

2004-02-14 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 12, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:

The DescDetail is one giant line, so it looks like crap on plain-text
displays. A couple of weeks ago I added a validator warning for this a
couple of weeks ago, but I don't think it's gotten into a fink-release
yet.
All desc fields should be hard wrapped, i have always rejected 
submitted packages which don't. (though usually i just hard-wrap it 
before committing)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] submitting large patches

2004-02-14 Thread Ben Hines
I disagree. We should not accept patches this big in fink. As pogma 
said, please make it a tar.gz and put it on a web site. If you don't 
have one, we do.

I don't think we should commit patches over 30k. In fact fink should 
reject such patch files.

Please submit a revision to this package which grabs it from a site.

-Ben

On Feb 8, 2004, at 8:12 AM, James Gibbs wrote:

On Feb 5, 2004, at 8:04 AM, Eric Lee wrote:

Hi,

I have a patch for xv that is 337k (compressed), and sourceforge 
won't let me submit it (250k limit or something like that).  Can 
anyone tell me how I should submit large patches?
Split it up into two patches foo1.patch and foo2.patch. Use the 
PatchScript to apply them sequentially.

James



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Re: [Fink-devel] submitting large patches

2004-02-14 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 14, 2004, at 5:20 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote:

That should read of course be a limit of 300k for patches. If you 
really impose a limit on 30k the list would be too long to be sent 
here (-:

No, it shouldnt be 300k. 30k is quite reasonable, even generous. Doing 
some quick lists i don't see many at all over 30k. Most are under 10k.

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Re: [Fink-devel] bug in 0.18.1 (virtual provides)

2004-02-10 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 10, 2004, at 7:39 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

Peter ran into a problem where apt is installing perl 5.6 modules 
because it doesn't think that perl581-core is there, even though 
fink-virtual-provides says it is.

it appears that somehow fink is not showing the Provides: of virtuals 
as being installed.

Fink-virtual-pkgs should provide actual fake packages of these, not 
Provides. It is just as easy and would work better. (they could be 
versioned, for example)

fink also needs to create actual fake (virtual) packages for each 
perl module which is now in 5.8 that didn't used to be in 5.6... but 
that is an open feature req :)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/devel intltool.info,1.3,1.4

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 5, 2004, at 11:17 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:

Keith Conger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
+Source-MD5: 7285d5f792966b563519996ea3af58d5
 ConfigureParams: --mandir='${prefix}/share/man'
-InstallScript: 
- make install prefix=%i
- mkdir -p %i/lib/perl5/XML/Parser/Style
- cp %i/share/intltool/XML/Parser/Style/OrigTree.pm 
%i/lib/perl5/XML/Parser/Style/
-
 DocFiles: AUTHORS COPYING NEWS README TODO
 Description: Internationalize various kinds of data files
 DescDetail: 



Hi Keith.  I added the non-standard InstallScript to the previous 
version,
because gnumeric couldn't find OrigTree.pm in the place it was being
installed by the package.  Has that changed?  If not, you might want to
restore the non-standard InstallScript.

  -- Dave

P.S. Sorry, I should have put a comment in DescPorting about this...

LC_ALL=C ../intltool-merge ../po database-properties.desktop.in 
database-properties.desktop -d -u -c ../po/.intltool-merge-cache
The OrigTree module doesn't seem to be properly installed 
../intltool-merge

make[1]: *** [database-properties.desktop] Error 2
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling libgnomedb-1.0.3-1 failed
Yep, its needed... put it back. :)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/devel intltool.info,1.3,1.4

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Hines
On Feb 6, 2004, at 7:27 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

LC_ALL=C ../intltool-merge ../po database-properties.desktop.in 
database-properties.desktop -d -u -c ../po/.intltool-merge-cache
The OrigTree module doesn't seem to be properly installed 
.../intltool-merge

make[1]: *** [database-properties.desktop] Error 2
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling libgnomedb-1.0.3-1 failed
Yep, its needed... put it back. :)

Actually.. it looks like intltool no longer has this perlmod bundled. 
Searching google a bit, i see this has been a problem on many platforms 
and the fix is:

%p/bin/intltoolize -c -f

in the failing package's compilescript, and add an intltool (= 0.30-1) 
builddep to them.

This fixes the libgnomedb compile.

-Ben



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[Fink-devel] 'Groups' on fink pkg submission tracker

2004-02-01 Thread Ben Hines
I added some 'groups' to the fink package submission tracker. Please 
set the field when you modify a submission tracker item. It will let us 
track the state of the tracker easier by allowing people to see which 
items have not been touched.

All 'open' items with group 'Undergoing Validation' have not been 
looked at yet. We will need someone to at least set new tracker items 
to the Undergoing Validation group because there is no way to search or 
sort on the 'None' group.

Other groups:

Added to fink
Rejected (no response)
Rejected (already in fink)
Awaiting update from submitter
Awaiting dependency
We do have a 'resolution' field but it is not searchable or sortable, 
and such is useless.

Also, please assign an item to yourself when you close it. If you add a 
comment to a submitter, set the item to Awaitng Update.

When a submitter updates the item, they might not change the group. So 
if you get an update from someone please change that field back to 
'Undergoing Validation' which means the item is ready for someone to 
check it out. Doesn't have to be you. If you are actually validating an 
item and don't want someone else to put it in till you are done, assign 
the item to yourself.

-Ben



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Re: .app's in Fink (was Re: [Fink-devel] CFD: Installing Frameworks from fink packages)

2004-01-25 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 25, 2004, at 4:59 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:


OK, I suppose this is going to be controversial.  Any discussion?



Fine by me, as long as we stick to open source applications ONLY.  The 
objection about 'moving apps around' never did make sense to me, i 
think a more important objection is fink losing focus.

I believe we have one or two command line apps in fink which are binary.

-Ben



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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11 gimp-freefonts-0.10-2.info,NONE,1.1 gimp-sharefonts-0.10-2.info,NONE,1.1

2004-01-22 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 21, 2004, at 11:49 PM, Alexander Strange wrote:

install -d -m 755 %d`%p/bin/xfontpath basedir`/freefont
install -c -m 644 * %d`%p/bin/xfontpath basedir`/freefont


I don't think this is legal.. it will make different .debs for 
different people. It'll be luck of the draw to work in the bindist.

-Ben



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[Fink-devel] Re: [gnome-core] librsvg2-2.4.0-3

2004-01-14 Thread Ben Hines


On Jan 13, 2004, at 5:39 PM, Keith Conger wrote:

Hi,

This is unstable.

You are right, it is unstable tree. But you miss my point. People on 
the list (Martin in this case) just tell users to remove things first, 
and i see no evidence that anyone even considered this to be a problem. 
It *IS* a problem, a MAJOR problem, and it needs to be taken seriously.

Martin: You are wrong.  It is frankly NOT my responsibility to figure 
out why the problem occurred. As a user of the package, is only my 
responsibility to report failure, that is it. For your convenience, I 
even used FinkCommander, which included relevant system details. 
Manually removing is a workaround, not a fix.  I am not 'forgetting the 
time factor'. My main point here is that this was a bug in the package, 
and you acted like it was not (in multiple emails.) I figured out why 
it failed on my own because apparently, noone else cared. Why should I 
have to? Where is the bug tracker item on this?

Yes, if something is a bug, make sure you point that out. You can 
include the workaround. If you really think these issues don't cause 
people to leave fink, you haven't been around long enough or talked to 
enough users. We see them on IRC all the time (usually in #opendarwin, 
after having rm -rf /sw)

And dude Martin, get this in your skull - fink-gnome-core is **NOT** A 
FORUM. I DO NOT HAVE TO READ IT. fink-gnome-core is a 'group 
maintainer' which was made world-readable so people wouldn't be blocked 
out of helping to maintain it. I STRONGLY object to creation of new 
fink forums i have to search every time i need to report a problem. I 
absolutely refuse to do so. I thought this group maintainer stuff  was 
a bad idea in the first place, this is yet another reason why. Now WE 
ALL get to maintain it! Wohoo! Thats the same as no maintainer at all, 
if i have to read fink-gnome-core! Anything you 'announce' on 
fink-gnome-core is being 'announced' only to fellow maintainers of the 
fink-gnome packages. Since it is not a forum, the maintainers of 
fink-gnome-core are responsible for replying to each email personally. 
Should i now read Ben Reed's email before reporting KDE bugs? no.

And this is NOT truly a 'recent thing with big updates', there are 
packages which have been in unstable for weeks which do not upgrade.  
This is not specific to gnome. I believe the system-xfree86 upgrade 
from 10.2 is still broken, in fact it is in the FAQ. Noone cares. Half 
our perl modules don't upgrade.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [gnome-core] librsvg2-2.4.0-3

2004-01-14 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 13, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote:


perl -pi -e 's/hardcode_direct=yes/hardcode_direct=no/g' configure

Will also often fix this. You may need to do hardcode_direct_CXX too 
if the
build uses c++.



Aha, you're right, that does fix it.  I rememeber that now...  Kieth 
that is the patch to use. That should go on the porting page if it 
isn't already


If you use setLDFLAGS: -L./.libs please make sure it does not end up 
in the
installed .la's dependency_libs.

Right, i noticed it got in there. For a complete fix it would have to 
be sedded out.

Kieth: didnt mean to single out your package as much here, its just a 
general principle thing of these issues (apparently) not being 
considered major problems, by a lot of people. (even in unstable, they 
are major problems, and should prevent the package from going into 
unstable at all if they are known about)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: passwd_20030621-1_darwin-powerpc.deb

2004-01-14 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 13, 2004, at 8:18 AM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:

I am no longer maintaining passwd, and it looks like this is a problem 
in the apt-get package depending on an old version anyway.



We fixed that (long ago) by removing the postfix user from the newest 
passwd version. In stable, too I believe.

sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
or
fink selfupdate
-Ben



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[Fink-devel] Re: [gnome-core] librsvg2-2.4.0-3

2004-01-13 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 13, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

On Jan 12, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Ben Hines wrote:
[]
ld: Undefined symbols:
_rsvg_set_default_dpi
This one has been answered many times (see also the post 
fink-gnome-core black hole to fink-devel). You need to remove the 
old version before compiling the new one. There is no good strategy 
in such a situation as has been seen for many other packages in the 
past.
No, i should not have to do that. There are hacks to get around such 
situations, i have fixed them before in many packages.

And seriously folks, i am still sick of this user must {force depends, 
remove old first, manually do foo} to use the new version of my 
package bullshit which has been happening more and more recently.  
There are solutions for everything. The last, last, last resort is 
having the user do something. If a temp upgrade-package is required, 
then that is preferred over having the user do something. If modifying 
%p is required, then that is preferred to having the user do something. 
Often there are much easier build time fixes. (as in this case) There 
is always a way. If a user must manually do something to update a 
package, please file a bug on the bug tracker.

These situations are NOT acceptible to fink users. These situations 
STILL cause people to leave fink.

And no martin it doesn't matter that is has been 'answered many times' 
by the gnome maintainers - it has never been asnwered (actually, until 
sunday - once) on fink-devel or fink-users which are the fink mailing 
lists. fink-gnome-core is the maintainer for the gnome packages, not a 
fink discussion forum. I refuse to subscribe to it. Is it in the FAQ? 
This is a package bug, not a user problem. Since it is a known 100% 
problem that you know about, why do you not detect it when building and 
error out with a useful message? This is just bad package maintenance.

Lets see, here... its using the not-yet-installed lib? Just move the 
order of the link line, looks like this works, it builds just fine with 
it:

SetLDFLAGS: -L./.libs

Works fine. No 'remove this first' crap needed.  If there are problems 
with that fix, i am sure we can find another one.. even if it means 
manually linking the file in the installscript. TRY, people.  This is 
IMPORTANT. That is a REALLY EASY FIX. Yes it is 'hackish'. that is 
preferred to telling fink users to do things. If you really hate it, 
remove the line in a year when most folks will have updated. We've had 
far worse hacks in fink packages for a long, long time.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] ld: warning -prebind has no effect with -bundle

2004-01-12 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 12, 2004, at 6:23 PM, Koen van der Drift wrote:



Any ideas how to fix this?

Try adding -lcsirocsa -lcsironn to your libraries (LIBS or LDFLAGS if 
LIBS fails) Make sure they come after the -L../../src/.libs -lplplotd

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Re: [Fink-devel] Please help bring my packages up-to-date (or take over some) :)

2004-01-12 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 12, 2004, at 3:23 PM, Carsten Klapp wrote:

(For example, do we really need separate binaries for all those 
perlmod versions? I thought we should only have two: 5.6.0+, or 
earlier. Is there again ANOTHER perl binary incompatibility between 
5.6.0 and 5.6.1? etc. Once again, I have had little time to study this 
all with respect to fink, if I am in error please forgive me and do 
correct me.)

5.8.1, you mean? Yes, it is all incompatible. We don't do all this work 
for no reason. We are not idiots.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] ld: warning -prebind has no effect with -bundle

2004-01-12 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 12, 2004, at 7:34 PM, Koen van der Drift wrote:


Try adding -lcsirocsa -lcsironn to your libraries (LIBS or LDFLAGS if
LIBS fails) Make sure they come after the -L../../src/.libs -lplplotd


How do I make sure they come after the -L../../src/.libs -lplplotd (if 
that is what I did wrong)?

Because they aren't built yet at that time. You need to get them added 
at the correct point in the build, probably in one of the Makefile.in 
files.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] building The GIMP 2.0pre1

2004-01-11 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:16 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

The install script for freetype2 moves lib/libfreetype.la into a 
lib/freetype2/ directory, but that doesn't get installed from %i into 
%p so there appears to be a problem with that package.
It gets installed into %p when you install the freetype2-dev splitoff. 
I can't comment on what is necessary for gimp, haven't looked at it.

Nope... in 10.3 anyway, the .dylib symlink is still hidden away in 
/sw/lib/freetype2/. This is on purpose, because we want fink packages 
to use apple's freetype2 by default. Fink's freetype2 is 'hidden away' 
for packages that specifically need that version.

./sw/lib/freetype2/lib/libfreetype.dylib - /sw/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib

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Re: [Fink-devel] Heureka! (Was: Fink-0.18.0 doesn't compile)

2004-01-11 Thread Ben Hines
This could be easily tested with a disk image, for example. Mount a  
read/write disk image, get info, choose 'ignore permissions' (looks  
like it is default) and try to install fink. It does indeed fail:

This first test is designed to die, so please ignore the error
message on the next line.
# Looks like your test died before it could output anything.
./00compile.ok
./Base/initialize...ok
./Base/paramok
./Base/param_booleanok
./Command/cat...ok
./Command/chowname..ok 1/0# Failed test  
(./Command/chowname.t at line 27)
#  got: 'ben'
./Command/chowname..NOK 2# expected: 'nobody'
./Command/chowname..ok 4/0# Failed test  
(./Command/chowname.t at line 34)
./Command/chowname..NOK 5#  got: 'unknown'
# expected: 'nobody'
./Command/chowname..ok 7/0# Failed test  
(./Command/chowname.t at line 43)
./Command/chowname..NOK 8#  got: 'ben'
# expected: 'nobody'
# Failed test (./Command/chowname.t at line 44)
#  got: 'unknown'
# expected: 'nobody'
./Command/chowname..NOK 9# Looks like you failed 4 tests of 9.
./Command/chowname..dubious
Test returned status 4 (wstat 1024, 0x400)
DIED. FAILED tests 2, 5, 8-9
Failed 4/9 tests, 55.56% okay
./Command/commands..ok
./Command/exports...ok
./Command/failure...ok
./Command/touch.ok
./Config/exportsok
./Config/failureok
./Config/load_save..ok
./Config/optionsok
./Config/param..ok
./Config/verbosity_levelok
./FinkVersion/exports...ok
./FinkVersion/version...ok
./Mirror/exportsok
./PkgVersion/get_perl...ok
Failed Test  Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
 
---
./Command/chowname.t4  1024 94  44.44%  2 5 8-9
Failed 1/20 test scripts, 95.00% okay. 4/482 subtests failed, 99.17%  
okay.
make: *** [test] Error 1
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
compiling fink-0.18.0.cvs-20040111.2118 failed

-Ben

On Jan 10, 2004, at 6:20 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:

We need our testing guru to come back and help us out here...



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[Fink-devel] Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.518,1.518.2.1 Engine.pm,1.156,1.156.2.1 PkgVersion.pm,1.209,1.209.2.1 SourceItem.pm,1.1,1.1.2.1

2004-01-11 Thread Ben Hines
If there is anything we don't need it is to slow down indexing. I don't 
care how much cleaner it makes the code, we need to index constantly. 
It needs to be fast.

-Ben

On Jan 11, 2004, at 2:22 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:

Switch to an object-oriented and consistent way of handling source
tarballs. Seems to slow down indexing quite a bit and make fink.db up


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[Fink-devel] CVS conflict detection

2004-01-10 Thread Ben Hines
Fink should be able to realize what this is:

WARNING: Unable to parse the line  libbonobo2.info in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.
WARNING: Unable to parse the line === in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.
WARNING: Unable to parse the line  1.5 in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.
WARNING: Unable to parse the line  libbonobo2.info in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.
WARNING: Unable to parse the line === in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.
WARNING: Unable to parse the line  1.5 in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.
WARNING: Unable to parse the line  libbonobo2.info in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/gnome/libbonobo2.info.

We could have fink notify the user of a possible CVS conflict and offer 
to remove the file and selfupdate-cvs again. We could also suggest that 
if they want to keep the changes they should say no and resolve the 
conflict by hand.

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Re: [Fink-devel] Perl modules ambiguity with xml-parser-pm581-2.34-10

2004-01-10 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 10, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote:

I need to explicitly pick the pm581 modules to make it work.

I'm not sure about the versioned perl modules business. I guess that 
all versioned perl modules must depend explicitly on versioned perl 
modules. But why do we need the placeholders (unversioned) modules 
then?
Its really just a bug in libwww-pm580, it needs to depend on versioned 
versions of its deps. You'd need to choose all the same (581) versions 
for it to work, and you chose the defaults which were wrong.

I think you could get fink to shut up with MatchPackageRegEx: (.*581$) 
in your fink.conf  (I hate that dumb field name)

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Re: [Fink-devel] fink-maintainer-gaim :: gaim = 0.71 please

2004-01-10 Thread Ben Hines
On Jan 8, 2004, at 7:24 PM, Max Horn wrote:

We can't get anything into 0.6.2 - that's a fixed release :-).

Not totally correct as you know, we do have an 'current' dir which we 
can throw packages into which point release stable users can access. 
For occasionally totally broken packages such as 'bidwatcher' at times 
(which can break when ebay changes formats), or gaim (which can break 
when MS changes formats) , it is a good use of it IMO.

(from my /sw/etc/apt/sources.list : )

# Official binary distribution: download location for packages
# from the latest release
deb http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/fink/direct_download 10.3/release 
main crypto

# Official binary distribution: download location for updated
# packages built between releases
deb http://telia.dl.sourceforge.net/fink/direct_download 10.3/current 
main crypto



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Re: [Fink-devel] gettext-dev and libiconv-dev dependencies

2004-01-01 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 31, 2003, at 9:32 PM, Max Horn wrote:

What I find interesting about this is that we are apparently so close 
in some regards, Ben... I am too lazy to search through the trackers, 
but I think I could easily find similar examples quoting *you*... :-).


I certainly would admit it agree with that statement. :)  You are 
correct that I do the same thing to people sometimes. Let me know when 
i am doing it and i'll do the latter.

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[Fink-devel] libgnugetopt

2004-01-01 Thread Ben Hines
libgnugetopt dependencirs are never needed on 10.3... the missing 
getopt functions were added to libsystem. Just remove all  gnugetopt 
deps completely! It will work fine.

-Ben

On Jan 1, 2004, at 3:21 AM, Matthias Neeracher wrote:

Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/games
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv13994
Added Files:
nethack.info nethack.patch
Removed Files:
nethack-3.4.1-1.info nethack-3.4.1-1.patch
Log Message:
Added missing dependency on libgnugetopt-shlibs


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Re: [Fink-devel] fink builds twice

2004-01-01 Thread Ben Hines
This is interesting.

I used a test package that was Type: nosource and fink rebuild baz 
baz-shlibs 'compiles' baz twice no matter the order. Is your foo test 
package Type nosource?

When i added a source tarball, it only builds once.

-Ben

On Jan 1, 2004, at 5:48 PM, Koen van der Drift wrote:

Hi,

While working on a package I notice that if I type:

fink rebuild foo foo-shlibs

then fink build both packages in one run. But if I type:

fink rebuild foo-shlibs foo

then fink uses two rounds of unpacking/compiling/building, although 
both deb files are created in the first run.

I tried it with an existing package (libpng3), but in that case fink 
used one run in both cases (as expected). So it could very well be 
that I made an error or forgot something in the .info file. Has anyone 
seen this before?

thanks,

- Koen.



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Re: [Fink-devel] fink builds twice

2004-01-01 Thread Ben Hines
Ok, yeah, I can reproduce it with my test package after i remove.. it 
appears it only happens if a package is NOT installed and is rebuilt. 
Source line does not matter.

-Ben

On Jan 1, 2004, at 8:12 PM, Koen van der Drift wrote:


No, I don't use that field. I'll try to find an existing package in 
fink that does the same, so others can test it.

I have reproduced it with libpng3, but I had to remove the package 
first.  And the order didn't even matter, both packages were build 
twice both times. It must be machine related  because I could not 
reproduce it on another machine (although both have 0.17.4, unstable, 
and a recent rsync selfupdate).

- Koen.



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Re: [Fink-devel] fink builds twice

2004-01-01 Thread Ben Hines
Still occurs with cvs. Note that the parent does not depend on the 
-shlibs in my test package.
I think this might be a very old bug from max.  (fix at bottom)

Here is the pkg, fink remove them all then do 'fink rebuild baz 
baz-blammo

Package: baz
Version: 2.1
Revision: 11
#Depends: %N-blammo, %N-doc
Type: nosource
CompileScript: echo COMPILING BAZ AT THIS TIME
InstallScript: 
echo none  README

DocFiles: README
SplitOff: 
 Package: %N-blammo
 DocFiles: README

SplitOff2: 
 Package: %N-doc
 DocFiles: README

License: GPL
Maintainer: None [EMAIL PROTECTED]


And with this one in CVS you will get a 'circular dependency' error:
Failed: Problem resolving dependencies. Check for circular dependencies.
Package: baz
Version: 2.1
Revision: 11
Depends: %N-blammo, %N-doc
Type: nosource
CompileScript: echo COMPILING BAZ AT THIS TIME
InstallScript: 
echo none  README

DocFiles: README
SplitOff: 
 Package: %N-blammo
 DocFiles: README

SplitOff2: 
 Package: %N-doc
 DocFiles: README

License: GPL
Maintainer: None [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This fixes it I think... the loop removing relatives from the rebuild 
list was only being entered if the parent wasn't being rebuilt. I'm not 
sure if this is the correct fix, though... please verify what this 
breaks :)

Index: Engine.pm
===
RCS file: /cvsroot/fink/fink/perlmod/Fink/Engine.pm,v
retrieving revision 1.148
diff -u -r1.148 Engine.pm
--- Engine.pm   1 Jan 2004 18:48:08 -   1.148
+++ Engine.pm   2 Jan 2004 05:14:07 -
@@ -1449,7 +1449,7 @@
# to build in any case.
$to_be_rebuilt{$pkgname} = 0 unless exists 
$to_be_rebuilt{$pkgname};
$to_be_rebuilt{$pkgname} |= not 
$package-is_present();
-   if (not $to_be_rebuilt{$pkgname} and exists 
$package-{_relatives}) {
+   if ($to_be_rebuilt{$pkgname} and exists 
$package-{_relatives}) {
foreach $pkg 
(@{$package-{_relatives}}) {
next unless exists 
$to_be_rebuilt{$pkg-get_name()};
$to_be_rebuilt{$pkgname} |= 
$to_be_rebuilt{$pkg-get_name()};

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Re: [Fink-devel] gettext-dev and libiconv-dev dependencies

2003-12-31 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 31, 2003, at 12:32 PM, Max Horn wrote:

Am 31.12.2003 um 21:00 schrieb Martin Costabel:

Ben Hines wrote:
On Dec 22, 2003, at 4:50 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:
[]
I am dreaming of a mechanism that would remove a BuilDependsOnly 
package immediately after it is used. This would not only solve 
this problem, but also come in handy in other situations (it would 
help with the freetype2 mess, for example).
That is planned.
It is??? Did you folks really think this through? I'd be curious to 
learn how that should be doable, see below...



Yes, it is absolutely doable and yes, i have thought it through. Have 
you? In fact thesin has already begun to implement it. It basically 
requires redoing the whole dep search after each build.

By planned i mean we plan to do it. Yes it is hard. No we have not 
figured out exactly the best way to do it, etc... No need to be acting 
like a dick again Max, all I said was That is planned


I have been thinking about this some more, and I would now like to 
propose this seriously as a solution for several problems that were 
biting us recently. The more I think about it, the more it seems to 
me that we will *have to* do this.

Here is the proposal:

1. Allow the packages that have BuildDependsOnly: true (short: 
buildonly packages) to Depend on other buildonly packages

2. Introduce a reaper that removes *all* buildonly packages. The 
reaper has to run every time before fink starts a package build 
process.
Doesn't sound like a good idea. Many people (including me) who 
actually use fink packages for development would be very unhappy about 
this. I need a lot of our buildonly packages (e.g. -dev package with 
header files). Having to manually reinstall them whenever I use fink 
to install something would be a nightmare (and essentially make fink 
useless).

You wouldn't, dude. It'd be optional and you'd be able to hold certain 
packages of course. These are obvious problems which I immediately 
considered. I am also a developer/

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] gettext-dev and libiconv-dev dependencies

2003-12-31 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 31, 2003, at 1:21 PM, Ben Hines wrote:


I have been thinking about this some more, and I would now like to 
propose this seriously as a solution for several problems that were 
biting us recently. The more I think about it, the more it seems to 
me that we will *have to* do this.

Here is the proposal:

1. Allow the packages that have BuildDependsOnly: true (short: 
buildonly packages) to Depend on other buildonly packages

2. Introduce a reaper that removes *all* buildonly packages. The 
reaper has to run every time before fink starts a package build 
process.
Doesn't sound like a good idea. Many people (including me) who 
actually use fink packages for development would be very unhappy 
about this. I need a lot of our buildonly packages (e.g. -dev package 
with header files). Having to manually reinstall them whenever I use 
fink to install something would be a nightmare (and essentially make 
fink useless).

You wouldn't, dude. It'd be optional and you'd be able to hold certain 
packages of course. These are obvious problems which I immediately 
considered. I am also a developer/

Oops, clicked send to early.. anyway, obviously such a mechanism would 
have to keep track of what packages the user told fink to install, and 
which were simply installed as a blind build dependency. Again, obvious 
issues.  It is absolutely a great idea to get these unnecessary 
packages off people's systems who do not want them while keeping them 
for people who do.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] gettext-dev and libiconv-dev dependencies

2003-12-31 Thread Ben Hines
[resend]

On Dec 31, 2003, at 6:11 PM, Max Horn wrote:


Err, sorry, but I don't understand why you react so extremely  
aggressive. I just re-read what I wrote, and I still don't get why  
what I wrote makes me a dick (again, apparently). I was merely asking,  
and IMO not even impolite (although maybe due the fact that I am not a  
native speaker I am missing something abusive I said, although I have  
not the slightest clue what that would be). I was (and am) seriously  
surprised by this approach (tried to show that by my use of three  
question marks, BTW). I didn't mean to say that you or anybody else  
involved in this matter is stupid, or whatever else you thought I was  
implying. I simply didn't understand, and hence did what is usually a  
good idea in such a situation: ask.
To me sometimes Max, you come across as condescending, abrupt and like  
you know everything better then everyone else, and that none of our  
proposals could possibly be valid. Sometimes it does not seem like a  
technical discussion at all, rather like a lecture from max on why we  
are so wrong. Combined with your comments on a tracker item today (to a  
simple user who didn't follow the rules - yeah, users do that, no need  
to yell at them) you seem to be acting more and more like chrisp:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? 
func=detailatid=117203aid=860056group_id=17203
basically sounds just like how chrisp acted before he quit:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/? 
func=detailatid=371315aid=479267group_id=17203

In my particular situation, yes perhaps there flaws. Point them out in  
a manner that is not so condescending, please.
Your 'use of the three question marks' is exactly what pissed me off,  
as if you are asking:
how could we be so stupid to suggest this??? Don't you know that your  
suggestion is stupid??? Have you thought this through you idiot??  
Asking if i have thought something through is rude. Just point out  
any problems you may see without the commentary.

Again there is obviously a middle ground, not all people are so easily  
offended and set off as I am, some wouldn't be bothered at all, and the  
large center ground would simply read it and say 'that guy was a bit  
harsh eh? He was just making a proposal'

Hm, in the light of what Ben Hines that (namely that for 'developers',  
one can 'hold' packages), does that mean that we essential will start  
to tell developers (like Ben or me and many others) that they now have  
to start manually fixing their Fink installation whenever changes like  
that are made? I mean, since for example I would have to hold those  
-dev packages mentioned above, that would mean in the alternate world  
(where we implemented the changes as Martin and Ben suggest them), I  
would have had to manually fix up my freetype2 installation. Do I  
understand that right so far?
I don't understand your concern here... no you wouldn't have to  
manually 'hold' or 'fix' anything. Fink would know that you manually  
had installed those packages (via a 'fink install' or apt-get command  
for example), and so would attempt to keep them installed at the end of  
any fink run rather than removing them. You wouldn't have to explicitly  
hold them at all or manually fix up anything. This is not a developer  
only feature. It would work best as a default option - most users would  
NOT want to keep build time only deps installed. Even as a developer, i  
only want packages i have asked for via fink install, even -dev.

To clarify again my 'that is planned' statement simply meant I  
certainly plan to attempt to do this, i didn't mean to say it was a  
done deal as you have interpreted. I can see how you might have take it  
that way from others actions on fink in the past, but hopefully you  
know that Ben Hines generally doesn't ever commit things to fink  
without bringing them up to everyone in detail. For example when i  
implemented the mirroring stuff I posted a design for them and  
solicited comments. It is the other people who change dep engines  
without asking. :)

Anyway maybe in the end it will turn out to not be feasible, but I  
certainly don't see blockers here. If the solution is a full chroot, so  
be it - that will have many other benefits too. All the problems you  
mention i believe can be overcome. Packages could still be switched out  
if you were holding something with a build depends hold.. fink could  
simply know to put back the ones you wanted at the end of a run and ask  
you what to do if there are issues. Anyway I didn't plan to fully  
implement this right now, i'd like to work on getting fink to mix  
binaries and source dependencies better first since it is a more common  
user request.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] linker question

2003-12-26 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 26, 2003, at 5:31 AM, Koen van der Drift wrote:
That's weird though, if I don't use the SetLDFLAGS: -lstdc++ line, I 
get the c++ error during compilation

ld: Undefined symbols:
std::ios_base::Init::Init[in-charge]()
std::ios_base::Init::~Init[in-charge]()
std::cerr
.
Because its linking with gcc, not g++.

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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.2-gcc3.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/base fink-0.17.3-1.info,NONE,1.1 fink-mirrors-0.0.2-2.info,NONE,1.1 fink-0.17.2-1.info,1.1,NONE fink-mirrors-0.0.2-1.info,1.2,NONE

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
Why not use the new info file name format?

it sure helps to track changes.

-Ben

On Dec 24, 2003, at 12:38 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/fink/dists/10.2-gcc3.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/base
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv2951
Added Files:
fink-0.17.3-1.info fink-mirrors-0.0.2-2.info
Removed Files:
fink-0.17.2-1.info fink-mirrors-0.0.2-1.info
Log Message:
new versions
--- NEW FILE: fink-0.17.3-1.info ---
Package: fink
Version: 0.17.3
Revision: 1
Depends: base-files
Suggests: storable-pm, term-readkey-pm
Essential: yes
Source: mirror:custom:fink/%n-%v.tar.gz
Source-MD5: b4ffa5bcedd57cfe952ba2ad6c1be042
CustomMirror: 
 Primary: http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
 nam-US: http://us.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
 eur: http://eu.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/

CompileScript: 
 #!/bin/sh -e
 ./setup.sh %p

InstallScript: ./install.sh %i
PostInstScript: 
 %p/lib/fink/postinstall.pl
 fink index

#
Description: The Fink package manager
DescDetail: 
fink is the Fink project's package manager. It is responsible for
downloading and compiling source and building binary packages from
it. Binary package handling is then delegated to dpkg.

DescPackaging: 
Don't use mirror:sourceforge so that older package manager versions
which do not know that mirror can still selfupdate.

License: GPL
Maintainer: Fink Core Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://fink.sourceforge.net/
--- NEW FILE: fink-mirrors-0.0.2-2.info ---
Package: fink-mirrors
Version: 0.0.2
Revision: 2
Essential: yes
Source: mirror:custom:fink/%n-%v.tar.gz
Source-MD5: bfe216c3c7fc29d55d59db5032177864
CustomMirror: 
 Primary: http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
 nam-US: http://us.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/
 eur: http://eu.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/

Depends: fink (= 0.17.3-1)
Replaces: fink ( 0.17.2-1)
CompileScript:  sed -e s|@PREFIX@|%p|  postinstall.pl.in  
postinstall.pl
InstallScript: ./install.sh %i
PostInstScript: %p/lib/fink/mirror/postinstall.pl
#
Description: Mirror infrastructure
DescDetail: 
The fink-mirrors package keeps a current list of the mirrors which are 
used
by fink to download sourcefiles.

License: GPL
Maintainer: Fink Core Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://fink.sourceforge.net/

--- fink-0.17.2-1.info DELETED ---

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Re: [Fink-devel] gettext-dev and libiconv-dev dpendencies

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 22, 2003, at 4:50 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Solutions: Either one allows gettext-dev to Depend on libiconv-dev 
(but this not only violates policy but may also break bootstrapping, 
because gettext-dev might be needed before libiconv is built), or all 
packages that are susceptible to be hit
That is never a solution and c an not be. Things are builddpeendsonly 
for a reason, in this case to support gettext 2 in the future.


by this problem (and this is hard to detect and concerns potentially 
many packages) would need a BuildDepends on both gettext-dev and 
libiconv-dev.

Yes, that is the answer. Any packages which don't should be fixed. Feel 
free to add them to any packages which need it.

I am dreaming of a mechanism that would remove a BuilDependsOnly 
package immediately after it is used. This would not only solve this 
problem, but also come in handy in other situations (it would help 
with the freetype2 mess, for example).
That is planned.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] The perl modules situation

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 11, 2003, at 5:38 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:

The obvious solution to this problem would be to use versioned Provides
statements.  That is, if you installed perl581 (or the virtual 
system-perl581),
you would get

You seem to misunderstand my issue. We already have versioned provides. 
The virtpkgs.pm pseudo package provides are all versioned. There is no 
issue, the .pm and dpkg/apt simply need to be fixed to provide the 
packages, just like they provide certain versions of cctools and perl.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Manual pages in /sw/man (code2html, shntool, gaim-ssl, jove, trackballs, snownews, shorten)

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
Yes, it does check that on the deb file, but most folks probably don't 
realize that deb files can be validated. Its also easy to miss changes 
when updating packages.

btw:

main/finkinfo/libs 166 % fink validate libfinch0.info
Validating package file libfinch0.info...
Warning: Field files of splitoff contains entries that end in / 
(libfinch0.info)
Warning: Description ends with .. (libfinch0.info)
main/finkinfo/libs 167 % fink validate libibrary0.info
Validating package file libibrary0.info...
Warning: Length of package description exceeds 45 characters. 
(libibrary0.info)

-Ben

On Dec 24, 2003, at 6:05 PM, Kyle Moffett wrote:

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To the maintainers of code2html, shntool, gaim-ssl, jove, trackballs, 
snownews,
and shorten.  Does fink validate check this?  If not, could that be 
added?  Also,
if it is not already, running fink validate should be required for all 
packages before
they are added to unstable.

zeus:~ root# dpkg -S '/sw/man*'
jove: /sw/man/man1/teachjove.1
jove: /sw/man/man1/xjove.1
jove: /sw/man/man1/jove.1
code2html, shntool, gaim-ssl, jove, trackballs, snownews, shorten: 
/sw/man
jove: /sw/man/man1/jovetool.1
snownews: /sw/man/fr/man1
trackballs: /sw/man/man6/trackballs.6
code2html: /sw/man/man1/code2html.1
shorten: /sw/man/man1/shorten.1
snownews: /sw/man/de/man1
snownews: /sw/man/de/man1/snownews.1
snownews: /sw/man/fr/man1/snownews.1
snownews: /sw/man/nl/man1
snownews: /sw/man/de
code2html, shntool, jove, snownews, shorten: /sw/man/man1
gaim-ssl: /sw/man/man3
trackballs: /sw/man/man6
snownews: /sw/man/nl
gaim-ssl: /sw/man/man3/Gaim.3pm
shntool: /sw/man/man1/shntool.1
snownews: /sw/man/fr
snownews: /sw/man/man1/snownews.1
snownews: /sw/man/nl/man1/snownews.1

Cheers,
Kyle Moffett
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Re: [Fink-devel] The perl modules situation

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 24, 2003, at 9:37 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:

My belief is that the Provides line is not enough to satisfy dpkg.
Certainly that was true in the early days of fink.  It's possible that
it has changed, and that I haven't kept up with dpkg's capabilities.
 I'm not talking about adding  Provides lines to the virtual perl  
packages, i'm talking about adding whole new virtual packages for every  
perl module a fink user has in the system perl.

To fink, dpkg, and apt, VirtPackages.pm creates real packages, not  
Provides. It all works because of our hack to dpkg and apt.  If a  
user tries to install something that wants  cctools (= 446-1), it  
works fine - the install fails until they install the new dev tools.  
The proposed perl modules solution should work too.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php? 
func=detailaid=865568group_id=17203atid=367203

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[Fink-devel] inject.pl broken

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
Looks like its not clearing out the index again.

% ./inject.pl
sudo ./inject.pl /sw
Password:
Creating fink tarball...
tar -cf /sw/src/fink-0.17.2.cvs.tar COPYING INSTALL INSTALL.html README 
README.html USAGE USAGE.html Makefile ChangeLog VERSION fink.in 
fink.8.in fink.conf.5.in install.sh setup.sh shlibs.default.in 
pathsetup.command.in postinstall.pl.in perlmod update t 
fink-virtual-pkgs.in
Copying package description(s)...
/usr/bin/sed -e 's/@VERSION@/0.17.2.cvs/' -e 
's/@REVISION@/20031225.0637/' -e 
's/@MD5@/05496db2a60b646b0f92cafb86d3b8e1/' fink.info.in 
/sw/fink/dists/local/bootstrap/finkinfo/fink-0.17.2.cvs.info
/bin/chmod 644 /sw/fink/dists/local/bootstrap/finkinfo/*.*
Installing package...

/sw/bin/fink install fink
Reading package info...
Updating package index... done.
Information about 2220 packages read in 15 seconds.
No packages to install.
Your Fink installation in '/sw' was updated with a new fink package.



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Re: [Fink-devel] inject.pl broken

2003-12-24 Thread Ben Hines
Ah, nevermind, looks like the fink VERSION file simply wasn't  updated 
to .3 in CVS.

-Ben

On Dec 24, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

Looks like its not clearing out the index again.

% ./inject.pl
sudo ./inject.pl /sw
Password:
Creating fink tarball...
tar -cf /sw/src/fink-0.17.2.cvs.tar COPYING INSTALL INSTALL.html 
README README.html USAGE USAGE.html Makefile ChangeLog VERSION fink.in 
fink.8.in fink.conf.5.in install.sh setup.sh shlibs.default.in 
pathsetup.command.in postinstall.pl.in perlmod update t 
fink-virtual-pkgs.in
Copying package description(s)...
/usr/bin/sed -e 's/@VERSION@/0.17.2.cvs/' -e 
's/@REVISION@/20031225.0637/' -e 
's/@MD5@/05496db2a60b646b0f92cafb86d3b8e1/' fink.info.in 
/sw/fink/dists/local/bootstrap/finkinfo/fink-0.17.2.cvs.info
/bin/chmod 644 /sw/fink/dists/local/bootstrap/finkinfo/*.*
Installing package...

/sw/bin/fink install fink
Reading package info...
Updating package index... done.
Information about 2220 packages read in 15 seconds.
No packages to install.
Your Fink installation in '/sw' was updated with a new fink package.



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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.2-gcc3.3/stable/main/finkinfo/database mysql-3.23.58-11.info,1.4,NONE mysql-3.23.58-11.patch,1.1,NONE

2003-12-19 Thread Ben Hines
Thats it right there.

-Ben

On Dec 19, 2003, at 4:27 PM, Remi Mommsen wrote:
../10.3/stable/main/finkinfo/database/mysql.info
../10.3/stable/main/finkinfo/database/mysql.patch
../10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/database/mysql.info
../10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/database/mysql.patch


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Re: [Fink-devel] Identically named packages

2003-12-15 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 15, 2003, at 6:24 AM, Peter O'Gorman wrote:

Things should not be depending on python, they ought to depend on the
specific version of python that they require, if the package is indeed
So what then is the 'python' splitoff for?

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] bin-dist made more regularely

2003-12-14 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 12, 2003, at 7:28 AM, Charles Lepple wrote:

Of course, this would require a little more advocacy of
popularity-contest, besides any changes to the inner workings of the 
code..
I like popularity-contest, however it currently requires an MTA running 
locally to submit results. If somone wants to fix it so it can submit 
results via a web form or something, more folks could use it.

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[Fink-devel] Identically named packages

2003-12-14 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 9, 2003, at 2:44 PM, Max Horn wrote:

Why was this done? Why not netpbm10-bin, which then Provides: 
netpbm-bin ?
I agree, and was complaining about this the other day. Identically 
named packages should be illegal.

'python' has a similar problem. If a user with python21 installs a 
package which simply depends on 'python' (ie, the package doesn't care 
what python version is installed), they will currently be forced to 
install python23!

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] successful port of Licq to os x

2003-12-14 Thread Ben Hines
Feel free to submit a fink package to the submission tracker at:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=414256group_id=17203
The .info file format is very easy. You can find examples in 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/

I know that Chris Z was working on one previously..

-Ben

On Dec 11, 2003, at 6:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I want to announce that I have successfully ported Licq to OS X.  Below
are instructions on how to do it.  I am posting this message to
fink-devel in the hope that someone would have commit access to post
a port to fink (which would be great!)  and to licq-devel, in case
anyone is interested in running Licq on OS X.


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Re: [Fink-devel] grass status

2003-12-14 Thread Ben Hines
I moved this to the 10.3/unstable tree today.

-Ben

On Nov 3, 2003, at 9:21 AM, Kirk R. Wythers wrote:

I have just moved from FreeBSD to OSX and want to get grass running.  
Can anyone give me quick rundown on the status of grass on fink? Who  
is the maintainer? Where did it go (seems like a day or two ago, grass  
was available in unstable, now I can't find it anywhere)? Does grass  
maintenance need help?

Thanks,

Kirk

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[Fink-devel] perls

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Hines
Since you've removed the system-perl packages, we're going to have to  
add all the Provided: perl modules to fink's virtual packages system,  
provided by those, hard coding the perl version into fink (or, maybe  
just looking up the perl modules dynamically?... that'd be slick).

 I had already added one (test-simple-pm) to the system- package, but  
the removal of the system-580 breaks those packages which were using  
that possibly creating some broken dependencies. (or maybe just  
unnecessary fink depends)
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/fink/dists/10.3/unstable/main/ 
finkinfo/languages/Attic/system-perl581.info?rev=1.1view=markup

This  mime-base64-pm | perl580-core | perl581-core  stuff is silly.

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[Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.2/stable/main/finkinfo/libs popt-1.7-1.info,1.3,1.4

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 10, 2003, at 8:10 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote:

'popt' contains i18n data, so it can't be BuildDependsOnly

I believe that lots of BuildDependsOnly (header) packages contain i18n 
data. Do things actually fail at runtime due to this?

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Re: I am giving this 24 hours - (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 8, 2003, at 10:57 PM, D. Höhn wrote:

Geezes you people are picky ;)

I will remove the data contained in teh two mentioned flders so that 
it
does not have to be checked anymore  better? ;)

see yas
Yes i still use phpmyadmin. Leave them.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] Re: dists/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/web amaya.info,1.1,1.2 amaya.patch,1.1,1.2

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 8, 2003, at 9:45 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:

Actually, the maintainer removed them. I'll put them back.

No, he didn't remove them, they were added by someone else, and he 
didn't notice.

-Ben



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Re: I am giving this 24 hours - (Re: [Fink-devel] Is it ok to remove phpmyadmin and pws from the web-module?)

2003-12-09 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:11 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

On Dec 8, 2003, at 10:57 PM, D. Höhn wrote:

Geezes you people are picky ;)

I will remove the data contained in teh two mentioned flders so that 
it
does not have to be checked anymore  better? ;)

see yas
Yes i still use phpmyadmin. Leave them.

And i'm not so happy about this '24 hours'' business. Sometimes i am 
not able to check email for a day. You are not in charge here, buddy.

btw if you want to take it out of cvs, but fix the webserver update 
script so it won't delete phpmyadmin from the site (ie, i can still use 
it), that's fine.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] BuildDependsOnly field

2003-12-04 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 4, 2003, at 1:36 PM, TheSin wrote:

Already stated I will no longer work be working on fink's code base 
unless it's to fix something that I created.  Sorry to try and advance 
fink instead of complaining yet again about something that has been 
discuss a dozen times already.

Aw cmon don't be immature about it, its all about communication. Of 
course everyone appreciates the contributions and we want you to 
contribute more.

I have two branches already they don't work, they have been there for 
over 6 months, no one tests them and no one merges/updates them.
You need to kick people to get them to help out and remind people of 
things, i dont remember even what other branches you have. I'd test 
your BC branch.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-devel] BuildDependsOnly field

2003-12-02 Thread Ben Hines
On Dec 2, 2003, at 3:29 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:

3. Calls the utility program rmorphans2 to remove all the packages 
that were only installed as a [Build]Depend, but that I don't want 
kept.

This would be a really nice feature to have implemented directly in 
fink.

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[Fink-devel] Re: experimental/benh57/finkinfo/test dia.info,NONE,1.1

2003-12-02 Thread Ben Hines
That sentence makes no sense

-Ben

On Dec 2, 2003, at 8:45 PM, TheSin wrote:

it's not dia isn't libunicode-gnome, I've already posted this to 
fink-devel...

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On 2-Dec-03, at 9:17 PM, Ben Hines wrote:

Update of /cvsroot/fink/experimental/benh57/finkinfo/test
In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv8177
Added Files:
dia.info
Log Message:
Broken dia
--- NEW FILE: dia.info ---
Package: dia
Version: 0.92
Revision: 10
GCC: 3.3
Depends: libgnomeui2-shlibs, libgnome2-shlibs, libart2-shlibs, 
libunicode-gnome-shlibs, libxml-shlibs, gdk-pixbuf-shlibs, 
libpng3-shlibs, popt-shlibs
BuildDepends: libgnomeui2-dev, libgnome2, libart2, libunicode-gnome, 
libxml, libpng3, gdk-pixbuf, audiofile, esound, glib, gtk+, libjpeg, 
libtiff, netpbm, orbit-dev, readline (= 4.3-15), imlib, giflib, 
gettext-dev, gettext-bin, libiconv-dev
Source: gnome
Source-MD5: 49a30a8a75bddfe59dc9f92f48afd2c8
#Patch: %n.patch
SetCFLAGS: -no-cpp-precomp
ConfigureParams: --infodir=%i/share/info --mandir=%i/share/man 
--enable-gnome
DocFiles: COPYING README AUTHORS NEWS ChangeLog KNOWN_BUGS TODO
Description: Diagram drawing program
DescDetail: 
Dia is a tool for drawing diagrams, borrowing ideas from programs such
as visio. It can be used to draw specific types of diagrams such as
network and UML diagrams and flowcharts, while also providing some
more generic objects to draw with. Dia may be extended to use new
shape types by writing a simple XML description of the shape. The
diagrams can be exported to a number of formats including EPS, SVG,
CGM and PNG. Diagrams can also be printed (splitting the diagram to
multiple pages if appropriate).

DescPort: Patch for the gcc3 install-name bug
License: GPL
Homepage: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/
Maintainer: Paul GABORIT [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [Fink-devel] BuildDependsOnly field

2003-12-02 Thread Ben Hines
it is good to work in CVS. But for major dep engine changes you might 
want to work in a 'branch' instead, not HEAD.

-Ben

On Dec 2, 2003, at 7:22 PM, TheSin wrote:

I'm just gonna do it steps, first I need BuildConflicts, which I just 
added, now I'm gonna add the transparent check before every build 
code, it'll remove and install as needed but won't ask since the first 
summary will cover it all anyhow.  And I've got that part almost 
working already, but I need to make small commits in between to not 
confuse myself, and so other can't help find any problems if there are 
any in little burst as so I don't get too far ahead, but this stuff 
has been put off too long, and been complained about too much.  So 
instead of my complaining about it again I just decided to do it.

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Chaos is the beginning and end, try dealing with the rest.
On 2-Dec-03, at 4:23 PM, Max Horn wrote:

I think doing this properly is a very hard task. Are you sure you're 
up to it? For now, it might be *much* simpler to simply change fink 
remove to use apt-get remove instead of dpkg --remove. That will 
give you almost exactly the functionality you want w/o having to 
study graph theory.


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