[Flashcoders] Branden's Article on Shared Fonts
Hi, I am having problems with shared fonts. After searching the archives i found lot of references to Branden Hall's Ultimate guide to shared fonts and other posts on embedded fonts. However, his archives dont have the content anymore. I was wondering if somebody could point me to a backup of those posts. regards, John Emmanuel ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
for all of you interested, Aral of OSFlash has set up a page where we can put priort art to the patent: http://www.osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. My reply to it was: This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others will respond. The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted Thanks Kevin :) On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet. Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Perhaps im being ignorant, but has anyone actually investigated this patent? Ive had a look, and Its very specific, and doesn't deal with RIA's, but rich media hosting web sites. A load of fuss about not much at all, imho. Ps kudos to aral for pointing out how weak this patent is (and its also the only patent filed by this Balthaser dude, so make of that what you will). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cedric Muller Sent: 02 March 2006 09:14 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted for all of you interested, Aral of OSFlash has set up a page where we can put priort art to the patent: http://www.osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. My reply to it was: This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others will respond. The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted Thanks Kevin :) On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet. Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your
Re: [Flashcoders] Branden's Article on Shared Fonts
I was wondering if somebody could point me to a backup of those posts. This is for posterity : http://web.archive.org/web/20020802165312/www.waxpraxis.org/archives/ 62.html Enjoy. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Can anyone see my posts?
Yeah I know its difficult. Time is short and there are lots of questions. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I used to answer lots of questions, but I just dont have the time anyu more. This is probably also because it seems to me there are more questions too. Regards Hank On 3/1/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get that feeling sometimes also- I console myself with the thought that the people answering questions are just as swamped as I am and are answering in between getting their own questions answered. True or not - It's good for the self esteem. M On 3/1/06, James Deakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All my posts get ignored was it something i said? James ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Branden's Article on Shared Fonts
Id love to see that too On 3/2/06, erixtekila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if somebody could point me to a backup of those posts. This is for posterity : http://web.archive.org/web/20020802165312/www.waxpraxis.org/archives/ 62.html Enjoy. --- erixtekila http://blog.v-i-a.net/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Sound.stop(linkage) problem
Somewhat crude, but what if you created empty movie clips and attached the sounds to them. That should isolate them. Dave On 3/2/06, Ramon Miguel M. Tayag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I was pulling out my hair a while ago because in my movie, when I stopped one sound it stopped all. After commenting code randomly, I found out the anySound.stop() stopped all sounds. Looking at the documentation, it says you can specify what sound to stop using a linkage ID. I understand that'd work fine if you use sound.attachSound (getting a sound from the library), but what if you use sound.loadSound(file)? What is the linkageID now? Thank you, -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag Managing Director Quirkworks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Game Develop in Flash 8
Hi guys! I have a certain knowledge in 3D Game Development using C++ and OpenGL. But I like Flash to much and I think it's less complicated to do game in it (please, confirm that?) I would like tips for where I should begin to study to using flash to develop games and if it possible to do 3D with it. I would like to build games in Third Person Adventures Games. Thanks for all and sorry for my poor english. See ya Samuel ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Game Develop in Flash 8
Hi Samuel, Try www.gotoandplay.it . It's a site dedicated to game dev in flash. G'luck, Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Samuel Santos Sent: donderdag 2 maart 2006 14:22 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Game Develop in Flash 8 Hi guys! I have a certain knowledge in 3D Game Development using C++ and OpenGL. But I like Flash to much and I think it's less complicated to do game in it (please, confirm that?) I would like tips for where I should begin to study to using flash to develop games and if it possible to do 3D with it. I would like to build games in Third Person Adventures Games. Thanks for all and sorry for my poor english. See ya Samuel ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Hi, Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] This among other things affect Flash very much, as Microsoft writes: Some windowed controls use Windows API functions, such as GetKeyState and GetCursorPos, to determine the state of the keyboard and mouse and then respond to the function results. For these controls only, a prompt appears before the control is run in Internet Explorer. To run the control, the user needs to click the button in the message window before the page loads. After loading, the control will not require activation. At present, the following controls have this behavior, but the vendors are working on new controls that would not have this behavior. * Virtools™ Web Player from Virtools SA * Macromedia Shockwave Player™ from Adobe Systems Inc. * QuickTime™ from Apple Computer, Inc. When loaded from external script files, these controls do not display a prompt. This page[2] also addresses, how you should properly embed ActiveX in the future to circumvent this warning. I do not see anything on the Adobe/Macromedia sites addressing this issue - but an update to the latest player will probably come soon. Just a heads-up for you all - this will be an issue soon, as people start updating :) And then again, Microsoft might win an appeal, so this won't be an issue after all. [1]http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1895907,00.asp [2]http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/activating_activex.asp -- Morten Barklund - Information Architect - TBWA\Play Gothersgade 49, 4th floor - DK-1123 Copenhagen K, Denmark Phone: +45 7027 2227 - Fax: +45 3369 1174 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] Sorry all, it seems to be old news (December 2005), so maybe it isn't an issue after all. Can anyone confirm this? -- Morten Barklund - Information Architect - TBWA\Play Gothersgade 49, 4th floor - DK-1123 Copenhagen K, Denmark Phone: +45 7027 2227 - Fax: +45 3369 1174 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Firefox forever.. This definitely will be an issue. One reason why I use Flash is because it [used to] work[s] , afaik, fine in all browsers - Opera, FF, IE, Safari, unlike AJAX where there seem to be a lot of glitches in Opera. Another of course is the warranted eye candy. This is bad news indeed. -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag Managing Director Quirkworks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Sound.stop(linkage) problem
You're right, I figured it out a few hours after posting. It's fine I suppose, since I have an all-around SoundStreamer class that is instantiated from the timeline this way: ss = new SoundStreamer(this); Better than nothing. :) Thanks! On 3/2/06, David Lochhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somewhat crude, but what if you created empty movie clips and attached the sounds to them. That should isolate them. Dave On 3/2/06, Ramon Miguel M. Tayag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I was pulling out my hair a while ago because in my movie, when I stopped one sound it stopped all. After commenting code randomly, I found out the anySound.stop() stopped all sounds. Looking at the documentation, it says you can specify what sound to stop using a linkage ID. I understand that'd work fine if you use sound.attachSound (getting a sound from the library), but what if you use sound.loadSound(file)? What is the linkageID now? Thank you, -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag Managing Director Quirkworks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag Managing Director Quirkworks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Sorry I missed the conversation I guess. My apologies for re-posting. -Chad On Mar 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Merrill, Jason wrote: We already discussed this topic here - just last Friday. My reply to it was: This is another silly attempt at making money - filing a patent after the technology existed and was in wide use - Adobe and Sun and others will respond. The patent covers all rich media technology implementations including Flash, Flex, Java, AJAX and XAML and all device footprints which access rich-media Internet applications including desktops, mobile devices, set-top boxes and video game consolesIt's possible that Balthaser may struggle to enforce its patent, because of prior art - the process where a patent is invalid if it can be proven that the innovation in question already existed before the patent was filed. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/0,39020645,39253949,00.htm Also, see: http://www.ip-wars.net/ Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:58 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted Thanks Kevin :) On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Kevin Mulvihill wrote: :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet. Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Regex in JSFL?
Ryan Matsikas wrote: yes. I couldn't find any documentation and although it works I get an error as alert. var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); var m = m_arr[0]; var c_string = m.substr(1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); the string is correctly traced but I got the alert m_arr has no properties. Which one should be the way to avoid the error? Thanks, chr -- ___ { Christian Giordano's site and blog @ http://cgws.nuthinking.com } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequencesfor Flash
(if anyone wanna join my monologue, feel free to do so) Hehe I admire your persistence Morten. Am currently updating XP too. What behaviour did you notice after install? Cheers, Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Morten Barklund TBWA\Play Sent: 02 March 2006 14:30 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequencesfor Flash Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] Sorry all, it seems to be old news (December 2005), so maybe it isn't an issue after all. Ah, the new development is, that MS has finally shipped this new version of IE[1] with these changes. So it will be a problem from now on. [1] http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1932304,00.asp And when performing an update of my XP Pro, I do get this update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945 Very interesting in deed! (if anyone wanna join my monologue, feel free to do so) -- Morten Barklund - Information Architect - TBWA\Play Gothersgade 49, 4th floor - DK-1123 Copenhagen K, Denmark Phone: +45 7027 2227 - Fax: +45 3369 1174 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. =[, M. On 3/1/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's selling it to me. My master plan is to kill AJAX, and this was the only way... by owning Flash, too. However, you all have nothing to fear since I love Flash so rest easy. - Original Message - From: Kevin Mulvihill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet. Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=180206472c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Regex in JSFL?
var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); var m = m_arr[0]; var c_string = m.substr(1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); I solved in this way: var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); if(m_arr){ var m = String(m_arr); var c_string = m.substr(1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); } any cleaner? cheers, chr -- ___ { Christian Giordano's site and blog @ http://cgws.nuthinking.com } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Fonts in v2 components
I couldn't replicate what you're explaining. I dragged 2 textInputs onto a MovieClip and used _root.attachMovie(theClip,theClip,1000); and my text in my two inputs showed up fine. When you say all of the text is not showing up is it dynamically loaded text and if so when you say not showing up are you saying it's getting cut off? On 3/1/06, jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have made a movieclip that has some v2 TextInput fields In it. I am exporting for Actionscript in the first frame then attaching to the _root with Actionscript. Now the problem I am having is that all of the text is not showing. If I take the same movieclip and drag from the library onto the stage the text appears. In fact I can have the one dragged onto the stage ond the one attached with Actionscript next to each other one with text one without. I have tried using setStyle(fontFamily, Arial); on the elements but this makes no difference. Has anyone cone across this problem before? Is there a fix? Cheers Jim ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Z sorting multiple overlapping movie clips
Karthik, Ramon, and all... When doing complex z-sorting ESPECIALLY when using V2 components, you should use the DepthManager class. it makes life much easier. Essentially the DepthManager provides you with functionality for rearranging depths without explicitly stating the depth numbers... HOW you ask?! Well it just so happens that DepthManager comes complete with a nifty, handy, dandy set of constants (i.e. DepthManager.kTop) These constants place your chosen MC on a single level and consequently shifts all of the prior classes (up or down depending on the constant used). BUT THAT'S NOT ALL!! You also get free sorting algorithms for moving groups of MC's and components ABSOLUTELY FREE! The thing to keep in mind is that you can't use traditional attachMovie calls to move things to the stage dynamically, nor can you use items already on the stage with DepthManager. The reason is because the DepthManager needs to know what it is sorting at loadtime. Here is a snippet example from one of my apps... /**CODE HERE**/ import mx.managers.DepthManager; /*clipped for brevity*/ // Create a container movie clip. _tools_mc = target.createChildAtDepth(_tools_mc, DepthManager.kTop); // //create a name label for this users screen _name_lbl = target.createClassChildAtDepth(Label, DepthManager.kBottom, {styleName:myStyle, color:0xDD, fontSize: 72}); //_name_lbl = _tools_mc.createClassObject (Label,_name_lbl,_tools_mc.getNextHighestDepth(), {styleName:myStyle, color:0x33, fontSize:72}); _name_lbl.autoSize = left; _name_lbl.text = ; _name_lbl.move(55,30); // //create _menuBar to show and hide color _dropDown _menuBar = _tools_mc.createClassChildAtDepth(MenuBar, DepthManager.kTop); _menuBar.setSize(Stage.width,_menuBar.height); /**CODE HERE**/ Now to move these guys around all I have to do is call the depth modifiers to change things around... # DepthManager.setDepthAbove() # DepthManager.setDepthBelow() # DepthManager.setDepthTo() see the documentation for more info... http://livedocs.macromedia.com/ flash/8/main/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm? context=LiveDocs_Partsfile=3458.html Also, see this chattyfig thread... http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/ pipermail/flashcoders/2004-May/111796.html More info on managers from macromedia... http://www.macromedia.com/ devnet/flash/articles/component_architecture_06.html Hope this helps.. S -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:46:23 +0530 From: Karthik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Z sorting multiple overlapping movie clips To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 why not mc.swapDepths(getNextHighestDepth() ) ? Do you have that many movieclips? That's what I'm doing.. but without getNextHighestDepth which is (was) buggy when used with v2 components. -K -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 14:56:46 +0800 From: Ramon Miguel M. Tayag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Z sorting multiple overlapping movie clips To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 mc.swapDepths(getNextHighestDepth() ) works with me. It puts it above the rest. Parameters target:Object - This parameter can take one of two forms: - A Number that specifies the depth level where the movie clip is to be placed. - A String that specifies the movie clip instance whose depth is swapped with the movie clip for which the method is being applied. Both movie clips must have the same parent movie clip. -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag Managing Director Quirkworks ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Sound.stop(linkage) problem
Hi Ramon, I think you should invoke stop() to the mc into which the sound is loaded / attached. -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com Ramon Miguel M. Tayag wrote: Hi everyone, I was pulling out my hair a while ago because in my movie, when I stopped one sound it stopped all. After commenting code randomly, I found out the anySound.stop() stopped all sounds. Looking at the documentation, it says you can specify what sound to stop using a linkage ID. I understand that'd work fine if you use sound.attachSound (getting a sound from the library), but what if you use sound.loadSound(file)? What is the linkageID now? Thank you, ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Sound.stop(linkage) problem
have you created a sound object for every sound in your file? i believe the minute you want to manipulate sounds independent from one another you have to create a sound object for each sound in your movie. otherwise, it'll affect all sounds...as that 'sounds' what is happening to you. On 3/2/06, Anggie Bratadinata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ramon, I think you should invoke stop() to the mc into which the sound is loaded / attached. -- Anggie Bratadinata Web|Graphic|Flash Jl. Raya Langsep 21 Malang - East Java I N D O N E S I A http://design.ibshastautama.com Ramon Miguel M. Tayag wrote: Hi everyone, I was pulling out my hair a while ago because in my movie, when I stopped one sound it stopped all. After commenting code randomly, I found out the anySound.stop() stopped all sounds. Looking at the documentation, it says you can specify what sound to stop using a linkage ID. I understand that'd work fine if you use sound.attachSound (getting a sound from the library), but what if you use sound.loadSound(file)? What is the linkageID now? Thank you, ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Regex in JSFL?
the proper way todo it would be var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var result = re.exec(line); while (result != null) { fl.trace(found: +c_result); var result = re.exec(line); } On 3/2/06, Christian Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); var m = m_arr[0]; var c_string = m.substr(1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); I solved in this way: var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); if(m_arr){ var m = String(m_arr); var c_string = m.substr(1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); } any cleaner? cheers, chr -- ___ { Christian Giordano's site and blog @ http://cgws.nuthinking.com } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Regex in JSFL?
opps trace result not c_result On 3/2/06, Ryan Matsikas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the proper way todo it would be var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var result = re.exec(line); while (result != null) { fl.trace(found: +c_result); var result = re.exec(line); } On 3/2/06, Christian Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); var m = m_arr[0]; var c_string = m.substr(1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); I solved in this way: var re = new RegExp(\[^\]+\,gi); var m_arr = re.exec(line); if(m_arr){ var m = String(m_arr); var c_string = m.substr (1,m.length-2); fl.trace(found: +c_string); } any cleaner? cheers, chr -- ___ { Christian Giordano's site and blog @ http://cgws.nuthinking.com } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting these prior projects. Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of you have other early RIAs to add, please do so. Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
It's funny Serge, that same joke was made at the office when we were passing the news article around... US patents are ludacris! M. On 3/2/06, Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you say, if somebody would like to patent a process of breathing? ;) - Original Message - From: elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. =[, M. On 3/1/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's selling it to me. My master plan is to kill AJAX, and this was the only way... by owning Flash, too. However, you all have nothing to fear since I love Flash so rest easy. - Original Message - From: Kevin Mulvihill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: OT: RE: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted :-) No Chad, I'm quite sure few, if any, are aware of this: The patent--issued on Valentine's Day--covers all rich-media technology implementations, including Flash, Flex, Java, Ajax, and XAML, when the rich-media application is accessed on any device over the Internet, according to the patent holders... A patent has been granted to a relatively unknown California Web-design firm for an invention its creator says covers the design and creation of most rich-media applications used over the Internet. The patent holder, Balthaser Online Inc., says it could license nearly any rich-media Internet application across a broad range of devices and networks. Potentially tens of thousands of businesses--not only software makers employing its business processes but companies offering rich-media on their Websites--could be subject to licensing fees when they use rich-media technology over the Internet. Guess Adobe AND Microsoft got caught with their pants down. But all is not lost. Neil Balthaser, a former VP of strategy for Macromedia, plans to sell the patent to someone... See more on http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=180206472c id=RSSfeed_IWK_News Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Mefferd Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:03 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted H, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=180206472cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News Is everyone aware of this? Chad ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
I heard first of this Niel character reading the news of the patent. His involvement in the manifestation of the RIA is convincing, but how can it be agreed that one this person owns* such a broad range of possible media? Could ( does? ) such a person own the patent for operating systems? What kind of implication does this United States patent have on the world? One can only assume that ownership is enforced on people in the country of the patent. I don't see how royalties can be enforced on companies in, say, China... Shouldn't this make RIA developement in the US more expensive than other countries? This should be great news to Europe, whom of which are just as capable as the US in RIA developement. Have international economical affects gone unnoticed in the issuing of this patent? I'm not expecting anyone to answer these questions, they are just to get us thinking about what the heck is really going on. M. On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting these prior projects. Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of you have other early RIAs to add, please do so. Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
I installed the update to check this out - I can confirm the behaviour described before: basically the activation means an additional click on every SWF before it can capture certain key and mouse events. There are ways to have the controls automatically activated (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/activating_activex.asp) but they involve Javascripting your object tag (using innerHTML or document.createElement - a simple document.writeln won't do obviously)... I don't know if this will really be a major problem, but there are certainly cases where you don't want to or cannot script your object tag... Jörg. Morten Barklund TBWA\Play schrieb: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: Don't know if you've seen it, but I just discovered, that Microsoft lost a patent dispute to Eolas yesterday[1] and Microsoft has since created a voluntary update for IE6 and also embedded the new behaviour in IE7.[2] Sorry all, it seems to be old news (December 2005), so maybe it isn't an issue after all. Ah, the new development is, that MS has finally shipped this new version of IE[1] with these changes. So it will be a problem from now on. [1] http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1932304,00.asp And when performing an update of my XP Pro, I do get this update: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/912945 Very interesting in deed! (if anyone wanna join my monologue, feel free to do so) -- Get Firefox! Safer, Faster, Better! http://www.getfirefox.com _ joerg.mueller TEL +49.89.36092940 | 00101100 guerickestr. 21 MOBILE +49.177.2763132 | 01011000 80805 muenchen E-MAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 11101101 germany| 00010100 ¯ (1) mathematics is the language of nature. (2) everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. (3) if you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. therefore: there are patterns everywhere in nature. - Max Cohen in the motion picture PI. 6002735243859695900984383847384738493549540494854985854954343 8153849612424579962314521362548659362125145554785112332546927 9530206508381538496124245799623145213625485066002735243850098 8473849354954049485498585495854395499953020650838153849612312 6254850660027352438596959009843838473847384935495404948543323 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Sure, you can buy this patent! But I dont care about any American patents :-) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Regex in JSFL?
while (result != null) { fl.trace(found: +c_result); var result = re.exec(line); } it makes sense, thanks! chr -- ___ { Christian Giordano's site and blog @ http://cgws.nuthinking.com } ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0?
I see a couple older MD5 classes in 1.0. Is there a 2.0 version floating around somewhere? Thanks Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Never mind the breathing, your DNA itself is patented: your existence is in bleach of the U.S. patent law! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html Kenneth Kawamoto www.materiaprima.co.uk On 3/2/06, Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you say, if somebody would like to patent a process of breathing? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
No, you are wrong :) If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away. Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting these prior projects. Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of you have other early RIAs to add, please do so. Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com(where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Fonts in v2 components
This is a big buggy mess, its hard to recreate as I was laying out my forms in flash ide exporting them for Actionscript. When I placed them on the stage, inside movieclips inside containers (accordion, window) they displayed different errors. I am now fed up with swearing at my computer realized the reason I was laying the forms out in the ide not completely with Actionscript was to save time. As it dosn't do this I am now drawing everything with Actionscript and it is working fine (fingers crossed). I traced the problem to the setStyle() inheritance but it is suck a mess I gave up trying to fix it. Jim. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel Saint-Victor Sent: 02 March 2006 15:05 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Fonts in v2 components I couldn't replicate what you're explaining. I dragged 2 textInputs onto a MovieClip and used _root.attachMovie(theClip,theClip,1000); and my text in my two inputs showed up fine. When you say all of the text is not showing up is it dynamically loaded text and if so when you say not showing up are you saying it's getting cut off? On 3/1/06, jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have made a movieclip that has some v2 TextInput fields In it. I am exporting for Actionscript in the first frame then attaching to the _root with Actionscript. Now the problem I am having is that all of the text is not showing. If I take the same movieclip and drag from the library onto the stage the text appears. In fact I can have the one dragged onto the stage ond the one attached with Actionscript next to each other one with text one without. I have tried using setStyle(fontFamily, Arial); on the elements but this makes no difference. Has anyone cone across this problem before? Is there a fix? Cheers Jim ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. You know, I don't think that is the case. The documenting of other cases simply proves that it's not a unique idea, thus it invalidates the patent for anyone. -Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
All your innovations are belong to us Mike ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Kenneth Kawamoto wrote: Never mind the breathing, your DNA itself is patented: your existence is in bleach of the U.S. patent law! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html Well, it's a U.S. patent... I can't believe these U.S. patents are in anyway legal in Europe. By my knowledge it's not, and patenting anything software is just lame and mony digging. Normally U.S. laws aren't applicable in Europe ;-) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Understood Hank. Shouldn't it be possible for the 'true inventor' to patent their 'invention' once the patent is gone? I would research laws around patents, but hell, as important is this discussion, I have to get some work done today too. M. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you are wrong :) If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away. Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting these prior projects. Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of you have other early RIAs to add, please do so. Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com (where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Actually DNA work, drug design, and all that kind of stuff is incredibly important work that if not protected there would be no motivation to do. If someone discovers a gene after spending, say $500 Million, should someone else be able to come along and spend $1 Million and compete from the same starting line? Patents protect innovation. The problem is that innovations, once accepted by the public, often seem obvious and inevitable. Often they just **seem** to be obvious, but are not. There are lots of obvious things that dont catch on and vice versa. Broad acceptance is not the same as obvious, but many dont understand that distinction. If someone actually solves any of the biological mysteries that will help us cure diseases and make life more comfortable, they absolutely deserve protection. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, hmm... The genes which comprise breathing should soon be patented then. Sighs* ( pun intended ) M. On 3/2/06, Kenneth Kawamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never mind the breathing, your DNA itself is patented: your existence is in bleach of the U.S. patent law! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html Kenneth Kawamoto www.materiaprima.co.uk On 3/2/06, Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you say, if somebody would like to patent a process of breathing? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
I understand Chris. On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. You know, I don't think that is the case. The documenting of other cases simply proves that it's not a unique idea, thus it invalidates the patent for anyone. -Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Nope. If you invent something and dont patent it within a year of public disclosure, you loose the right to patent. By the time a patent is issued for years or so have usually passed so other inventors that did not file are out of it. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understood Hank. Shouldn't it be possible for the 'true inventor' to patent their 'invention' once the patent is gone? I would research laws around patents, but hell, as important is this discussion, I have to get some work done today too. M. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you are wrong :) If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away. Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting these prior projects. Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of you have other early RIAs to add, please do so. Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com (where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Yes Hank, except I think more of the concern is whether they have ownership over our individuality, which doesn't seem to be the case. It's outlined that the patents simply protect the applications of the discoveries, like how much it would really cost if some evil empire decides to build biological creatures designed using human genetics to iron clothes. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually DNA work, drug design, and all that kind of stuff is incredibly important work that if not protected there would be no motivation to do. If someone discovers a gene after spending, say $500 Million, should someone else be able to come along and spend $1 Million and compete from the same starting line? Patents protect innovation. The problem is that innovations, once accepted by the public, often seem obvious and inevitable. Often they just **seem** to be obvious, but are not. There are lots of obvious things that dont catch on and vice versa. Broad acceptance is not the same as obvious, but many dont understand that distinction. If someone actually solves any of the biological mysteries that will help us cure diseases and make life more comfortable, they absolutely deserve protection. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, hmm... The genes which comprise breathing should soon be patented then. Sighs* ( pun intended ) M. On 3/2/06, Kenneth Kawamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never mind the breathing, your DNA itself is patented: your existence is in bleach of the U.S. patent law! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html Kenneth Kawamoto www.materiaprima.co.uk On 3/2/06, Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you say, if somebody would like to patent a process of breathing? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Ok I understand. Thanks for the education Hank, I'm sure everyone is more confident about fighting this now. M. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. If you invent something and dont patent it within a year of public disclosure, you loose the right to patent. By the time a patent is issued for years or so have usually passed so other inventors that did not file are out of it. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understood Hank. Shouldn't it be possible for the 'true inventor' to patent their 'invention' once the patent is gone? I would research laws around patents, but hell, as important is this discussion, I have to get some work done today too. M. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you are wrong :) If there is prior art and they did not patent it then the patent does not get bestowed on the owner of the prior art, it just goes away. Also, I am hard pressed to understand why the AOL application is not an RIA. Based on my reading of the patents definition of an RIA I think AOL would probably be the biggest pre-existing RIA. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, the evidence being collected at OSFlash should only serve to bestow the ownership of the patent to someone else. I apologize, but I would need help understanding what else this kind of documentation could prove. The problem would persist, am I wrong? M. On 3/2/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aral Balkan has created a page on the OSFlash.org wiki for documenting these prior projects. Moonfruit.com is already listed, but if any of you have other early RIAs to add, please do so. Here is the link: http://osflash.org/balthaser_patent_prior_art_discovery On 3/2/06, Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patent holder did actually create Balthaser.com, which was, at the time, a pretty early RIA (circa 2000). It was a bit crap though. Kind of a powerpoint ripoff, only less good. This was all done in Flash 4. I would say it was the *second* ever RIA, because Moonfruit.com (where I worked) was around before it (and still is) Alias On 3/2/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 9:58 AM, elibol wrote: Our team has been aware of this situation. It's big trouble if it's to be sold to the highest bidder; ignorantly speaking, Microsoft should appear to outstand the competition in financial strength. Microsoft would probably find it cheaper to support the challenge of the patent. Maybe they'd be willing to donate the lawyer fees, since that seems to be about the only thing stopping this patent from getting blown out of the water. There doesn't seem to be any question that there is prior art, and the patent is bogus. I'm pretty confident Adobe could knock it down as well. I'd like to see a single RIA the patent holder ever made. Software patents really suck. Strictly conceptual ones even more so. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___
[Flashcoders] custom preloader progress bar ...
for some reason, my bar does not scale, and the percent is not visible in the text bar with the percent loaded ... // function to load an external .swf function ploader() { // swf file to load loadMovieNum(bigfile.swf, 1); _root.onEnterFrame = function() { tBytes = getBytesTotal(); bLoaded = getBytesLoaded(); percent = (bLoaded/tBytes) * 100; if (bLoaded tBytes){ _root.pBar_mc._xscale = (bLoaded/tBytes)*100; _root.pBar_mc.label_txt.text = percent % LOADED } else { //plays the main movie and deletes preloader //play(); //_root.pBar_mc.unloadMovie(); delete this.onEnterFrame; } } } // call the preloader ploader(); regards, edward ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] custom preloader progress bar ...
dont have a lot of time, but don't load in levels please ... try loading in container mc's in stead There are numerous tutorials on the topic eg actionscript.org sorry for this short insight :) On 3/2/06, murder design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some reason, my bar does not scale, and the percent is not visible in the text bar with the percent loaded ... // function to load an external .swf function ploader() { // swf file to load loadMovieNum(bigfile.swf, 1); _root.onEnterFrame = function() { tBytes = getBytesTotal(); bLoaded = getBytesLoaded(); percent = (bLoaded/tBytes) * 100; if (bLoaded tBytes){ _root.pBar_mc._xscale = (bLoaded/tBytes)*100; _root.pBar_mc.label_txt.text = percent % LOADED } else { //plays the main movie and deletes preloader //play(); //_root.pBar_mc.unloadMovie(); delete this.onEnterFrame; } } } // call the preloader ploader(); regards, edward ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0?
http://www.meychi.com/archive/31.php You really should search on google or through the archives before asking. People ask for this often. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Hill Sent: Thu 3/2/2006 11:53 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:[Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0? I see a couple older MD5 classes in 1.0. Is there a 2.0 version floating around somewhere? Thanks Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Game Develop in Flash 8
I'm already look at this morning very cool! thanks! Samuel -- Hi Samuel, Try www.gotoandplay.it . It's a site dedicated to game dev in flash. G'luck, Ben ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] z-index on safari
Hi, I've searched and didn't find any solutions but maybe there's one now with flash 8 (I hope). I'm battling with the mac - safari bug where you have an html drop down nav that needs to appear in front of a flash movie. Works great on the pc but on safari it flickers and gets funky when you roll over a html link. I have this test page: http://sandboxwin.blenderbox.com/safaritime.html Happens with the latest plugins et all - and I've tried wmode as transparent and opaque to no avail. Nav is based on suckerfish drop-downs but any reasonable solution would be acceptable. Does anyone have a solution? txs -jeremy jeremy dost senior technologist blenderbox, inc. t: 718.963.4594 ext. 105 f: 718.963.1662 c: 917.656.1801 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blenderbox.com/vcards/jdost.vcf -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 3/1/2006 ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] v2 Button Label width?
I have searched google, the list, MM/Adobe, help files and my new book, Advanced Components. I cannot seem to figure out how to determine the width of the Label embedded into the v2 Button component. I will be loading many different languages via Unicode into the label and will not know the exact size to set until I have fed the text into it. In looping through its properties I have determined the Label is stored in labelPath. The other option I am trying to avoid is rendering an identical string into an invisible label component to determine its size. The only option I see right now, is using a non-monospaced font. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, matthibcn wrote: what you do oversea...lol...that is definatly your problem...i just dont care Thanks. We appreciate the sympathetic attitude among developers. At least do us a favor, while laughing. Show prior art. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0?
My googling yielded 1.0, not 2.0, my search skills must not be very leet. Thanks for the link! Chris Scott Hyndman wrote: http://www.meychi.com/archive/31.php You really should search on google or through the archives before asking. People ask for this often. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Hill Sent: Thu 3/2/2006 11:53 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Cc: Subject:[Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0? I see a couple older MD5 classes in 1.0. Is there a 2.0 version floating around somewhere? Thanks Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Troy Rollins wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, matthibcn wrote: what you do oversea...lol...that is definatly your problem...i just dont care Thanks. We appreciate the sympathetic attitude among developers. At least do us a favor, while laughing. Show prior art. -- Troy, if you think I am in the mood to discuss generic patents, I am not. This is unacceptable . period There are thousands of reasons ... share them or dont: http://ffii.org/index.en.html Regards Matthias Oesterle ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Strange XML loading issues
Hi folks, I'm hoping someone can help here with a strange XML issue I can't seem to solve. I've created a few dozen lessons in Flash for a client, where each lessons reads an XML file 11 - 15 KB in size. Everything works great, except once in a while the XML doesn't load in IE (have no problems in Firefox). I have a simple xml.onLoad function as follows: my_xml = new XML(); my_xml ignoreWhite = true; my_xml.onLoad = function (success) { if (success) { ... } else { trace(*** ERROR: Cannot load + xmlFile); } } my_xml.load(xmlFile); Most of the time, this works. But sometimes in IE, I get the above error message and it seems like the onLoad fails without timing out (I get the error right away). It's kind of a serious issue for me because all my lessons depend on these xml files. Has anyone encountered this before? I know it's not the no cache headers issue because most of the time, the lessons work. I figure it's not a timeout issue because I get the error right instantaneously. It's difficult to debug because I can't seem to replicate the error consistently. Can anyone help, please? Thanx! harry ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
so, here in europe we dont have to concern about all this softwarpatentshit as it isnt legal here... Actually, European patent and copyright law is even more ridiculous than US patent and copyright law. You have such wonderful concepts as inherent copyright, which means the moment you put any work in a concrete medium, it is automatically copyrighted without the need to file or even mark it as copyrighted, causing years of endless grief to anyone wanting to use any software published to any internet medium, say for example, this mailing list. So, in other words, if you've ever copied and pasted code from this email list without express written consent from the original author, and you live in Europe, you are in violation of EU copyright law. If you've downloaded code samples from any website and used them in production work, you are in violation of EU copyright law. And so on. The major difference is, Europe's enforcement is an even bigger joke than it's laws. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] mp3 with custom ui components
Has anyone used the Flash 8 Custom UI Components to control a sound object rather than binding them to the FLV Player? Is this even possible or are they for use only with FLV not mp3? Thanks! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
We appreciate your careful opinion, it's worth as much as reading the opinion of a man who's been huffing glue for six straight days. To my understanding, it is none of your concern, as is, you should not concern yourself, but you have, starkly, in self contradiction. In conclusion, it's probable that not only me is left wondering what it is you're doing right now. M. On 3/2/06, matthibcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Troy Rollins wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, matthibcn wrote: what you do oversea...lol...that is definatly your problem...i just dont care Thanks. We appreciate the sympathetic attitude among developers. At least do us a favor, while laughing. Show prior art. -- Troy, if you think I am in the mood to discuss generic patents, I am not. This is unacceptable . period There are thousands of reasons ... share them or dont: http://ffii.org/index.en.html Regards Matthias Oesterle ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
That's suprising information, except, I wonder its accuracy... No offense friend, so many come and run a mouth, I don't know what to take seriously anymore. M. On 3/2/06, ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, here in europe we dont have to concern about all this softwarpatentshit as it isnt legal here... Actually, European patent and copyright law is even more ridiculous than US patent and copyright law. You have such wonderful concepts as inherent copyright, which means the moment you put any work in a concrete medium, it is automatically copyrighted without the need to file or even mark it as copyrighted, causing years of endless grief to anyone wanting to use any software published to any internet medium, say for example, this mailing list. So, in other words, if you've ever copied and pasted code from this email list without express written consent from the original author, and you live in Europe, you are in violation of EU copyright law. If you've downloaded code samples from any website and used them in production work, you are in violation of EU copyright law. And so on. The major difference is, Europe's enforcement is an even bigger joke than it's laws. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
lol. Well said. Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We appreciate your careful opinion, it's worth as much as reading the opinion of a man who's been huffing glue for six straight days. To my understanding, it is none of your concern, as is, you should not concern yourself, but you have, starkly, in self contradiction. In conclusion, it's probable that not only me is left wondering what it is you're doing right now. M. On 3/2/06, matthibcn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Troy Rollins wrote: On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, matthibcn wrote: what you do oversea...lol...that is definatly your problem...i just dont care Thanks. We appreciate the sympathetic attitude among developers. At least do us a favor, while laughing. Show prior art. -- Troy, if you think I am in the mood to discuss generic patents, I am not. This is unacceptable . period There are thousands of reasons ... share them or dont: http://ffii.org/index.en.html Regards Matthias Oesterle ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Microsoft Internet Explorer update and consequences for Flash
Morten Barklund TBWA\Play wrote: I do not see anything on the Adobe/Macromedia sites addressing this issue - but an update to the latest player will probably come soon. What search terms did you use? Reason I ask is that, if it couldn't be easily found, we may have to seed that page with search terms people are using. It seems like a hard issue to search for overall, though :( (eolas is a reasonable unique search term, but I understand that, for various arcane legal reasons, it will not appear in this material itself. Terms like microsoft internet explorer or activex return too many hits. It's a tricky search to set up.) The older Macromedia Active Content Center was revived and updated for the new implementation last week: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/ Here are some of the more recent weblog postings I've had on this news: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/03/ie_activex_chan.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2006/02/ms_browser_chan.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/12/ms_post-eolas_u.cfm http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd/archives/2005/12/eolas_re-re-re-.cfm jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions?
var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); Does that really work? I know you said you got it from the help docs and all, but I always thought the Flash player, when it came to loading XML, ran single threaded in the sense that all other caluculations had to stop until the XML was loaded. I ask because with the code you posted, I tried it on a 2mb XML file and pctLoaded traces NaN, and my_xml.getBytesLoaded traces 0 the entire time the file is loading. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Berkey Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:20 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? I found this xml dynamic preloader in the flash 8 docs that works like a charm. You need to tweak the location of the preloader bar, and the name of your xml file, but it's pretty sweet for larger xml loads. var barWidth:Number = 200; var barHeight:Number = 6; this.createEmptyMovieClip(pBar_mc, ); var bar:MovieClip = pBar_mc.createEmptyMovieClip(bar_mc, 10); bar.beginFill(0xFF, 100); bar.moveTo(0, 0); bar.lineTo(barWidth, 0); bar.lineTo(barWidth, barHeight); bar.lineTo(0, barHeight); bar.lineTo(0, 0); bar.endFill(); bar._xscale = 0; var stroke:MovieClip = pBar_mc.createEmptyMovieClip(stroke_mc, 20); stroke.lineStyle(0, 0x00); stroke.moveTo(0, 0); stroke.lineTo(barWidth, 0); stroke.lineTo(barWidth, barHeight); stroke.lineTo(0, barHeight); stroke.lineTo(0, 0); pBar_mc.createTextField(label_txt, 30, 0, barHeight, 100, 21); pBar_mc.label_txt.autoSize = left; pBar_mc.label_txt.selectable = false; pBar_mc.label_txt.textColor = 0xFF; // location of preloader on the movie stage pBar_mc._x = -160; pBar_mc._y = 0; var my_xml:XML = new XML(); my_xml.ignoreWhite = true; my_xml.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) { pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = undefined; if (success) { myText.text = my_xml; pBar_mc._visible=false; pBar_mc.label_txt._visible=false; trace(XML loaded successfully); } else { trace(Unable to load XML); } }; my_xml.load(Publications.xml); pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = function() { var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); if (!isNaN(pctLoaded)) { pBar_mc.bar_mc._xscale = pctLoaded; pBar_mc.label_txt.text = pctLoaded + % loaded; if (pctLoaded = 100) { pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = undefined; } } } - Original Message - From: Mike Boutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Yes I have this problem too, except the xml im loading can be rather large and it causes flash player to freeze up for a few seconds when parsing. - Original Message - From: Scott Pobiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Hello flashcoders, I was wondering what solutions people have for activity while trying to load and parse XML data? My application takes a solid 2-3 seconds to load and all attempts to build preloaders and progress meters seem to fail. It seems that the application is hanging while it sorts out the XML data. I suppose that this topic might also be valuable for other applications. Thoughts? Comments? Thanks all, Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited.
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions?
Yes I also tried this with the same results. Merrill, Jason wrote: var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); Does that really work? I know you said you got it from the help docs and all, but I always thought the Flash player, when it came to loading XML, ran single threaded in the sense that all other caluculations had to stop until the XML was loaded. I ask because with the code you posted, I tried it on a 2mb XML file and pctLoaded traces NaN, and my_xml.getBytesLoaded traces 0 the entire time the file is loading. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Berkey Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:20 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? I found this xml dynamic preloader in the flash 8 docs that works like a charm. You need to tweak the location of the preloader bar, and the name of your xml file, but it's pretty sweet for larger xml loads. var barWidth:Number = 200; var barHeight:Number = 6; this.createEmptyMovieClip(pBar_mc, ); var bar:MovieClip = pBar_mc.createEmptyMovieClip(bar_mc, 10); bar.beginFill(0xFF, 100); bar.moveTo(0, 0); bar.lineTo(barWidth, 0); bar.lineTo(barWidth, barHeight); bar.lineTo(0, barHeight); bar.lineTo(0, 0); bar.endFill(); bar._xscale = 0; var stroke:MovieClip = pBar_mc.createEmptyMovieClip(stroke_mc, 20); stroke.lineStyle(0, 0x00); stroke.moveTo(0, 0); stroke.lineTo(barWidth, 0); stroke.lineTo(barWidth, barHeight); stroke.lineTo(0, barHeight); stroke.lineTo(0, 0); pBar_mc.createTextField(label_txt, 30, 0, barHeight, 100, 21); pBar_mc.label_txt.autoSize = left; pBar_mc.label_txt.selectable = false; pBar_mc.label_txt.textColor = 0xFF; // location of preloader on the movie stage pBar_mc._x = -160; pBar_mc._y = 0; var my_xml:XML = new XML(); my_xml.ignoreWhite = true; my_xml.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) { pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = undefined; if (success) { myText.text = my_xml; pBar_mc._visible=false; pBar_mc.label_txt._visible=false; trace(XML loaded successfully); } else { trace(Unable to load XML); } }; my_xml.load(Publications.xml); pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = function() { var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); if (!isNaN(pctLoaded)) { pBar_mc.bar_mc._xscale = pctLoaded; pBar_mc.label_txt.text = pctLoaded + % loaded; if (pctLoaded = 100) { pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = undefined; } } } - Original Message - From: Mike Boutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Yes I have this problem too, except the xml im loading can be rather large and it causes flash player to freeze up for a few seconds when parsing. - Original Message - From: Scott Pobiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Hello flashcoders, I was wondering what solutions people have for activity while trying to load and parse XML data? My application takes a solid 2-3 seconds to load and all attempts to build preloaders and progress meters seem to fail. It seems that the application is hanging while it sorts out the XML data. I suppose that this topic might also be valuable for other applications. Thoughts? Comments? Thanks all, Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain
RE: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0?
Check out http://www.meychi.com/ they have one. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 02 March 2006 16:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0? I see a couple older MD5 classes in 1.0. Is there a 2.0 version floating around somewhere? Thanks Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Flash/Shockwave Safari loading conflict
I have a site that has a shockwave movie and several swfs. On Safari, the SWF's are periodically unable to load an image or xml file. We made a test page that just has 1 SWF and 1 DCR, the swf containing a button that loads a single image. Pressing this butt repeatedly yields about a 20% failure rate just on Safari... We are using MCL for the images, and these failures are completely silent. I've tested don multiple Mac's using different servers (IIS and Apache), both locally and remotely. This sound familiar to anyone? Thanks, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] v2 Button Label width?
You set the width of the button using myButton.setSize(width, height); and im not sure but I think if you have a reference to the label text field you can use label._width = label.textWidth; Hope this helped. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Polk Sent: 02 March 2006 19:02 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] v2 Button Label width? I have searched google, the list, MM/Adobe, help files and my new book, Advanced Components. I cannot seem to figure out how to determine the width of the Label embedded into the v2 Button component. I will be loading many different languages via Unicode into the label and will not know the exact size to set until I have fed the text into it. In looping through its properties I have determined the Label is stored in labelPath. The other option I am trying to avoid is rendering an identical string into an invisible label component to determine its size. The only option I see right now, is using a non-monospaced font. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] v2 Button Label width?
Setting sizes is not the issue. I need access to the size of the label after running autoSize = left and adding text to the label. I am putting in unknown text into each button and will need to resize them according to the text (Unicode) length. This is mandatory since these buttons are part of a application UI that sizes according to the nationality's current language. Using _width always returns the same result, no matter what size it is. textWidth returns undefined. Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:12 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] v2 Button Label width? You set the width of the button using myButton.setSize(width, height); and im not sure but I think if you have a reference to the label text field you can use label._width = label.textWidth; Hope this helped. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Polk Sent: 02 March 2006 19:02 To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] v2 Button Label width? I have searched google, the list, MM/Adobe, help files and my new book, Advanced Components. I cannot seem to figure out how to determine the width of the Label embedded into the v2 Button component. I will be loading many different languages via Unicode into the label and will not know the exact size to set until I have fed the text into it. In looping through its properties I have determined the Label is stored in labelPath. The other option I am trying to avoid is rendering an identical string into an invisible label component to determine its size. The only option I see right now, is using a non-monospaced font. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Steve ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Weyert de Boer wrote: Sure, you can buy this patent! But I dont care about any American patents :-) ___ The nice thing about USAmerican patents is just that: they are USAmerican patents ;) Cheers Matthias Oesterle ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0?
Here is a prototype :), it could be useful and you could make a class out of it :) http://www.sephiroth.it/proto_detail.php?id=51 Cheers On 3/2/06, jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://www.meychi.com/ they have one. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 02 March 2006 16:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0? I see a couple older MD5 classes in 1.0. Is there a 2.0 version floating around somewhere? Thanks Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Can anyone see my posts?
I find, we must title our subjects thoughtfully, complying to the definition of 'subject' as best as possible. This way, those who are keen with the solution to your problem may recognize it with ease. For example, a question, strictly speaking, is not a subject. Instead of 'Can anyone see my posts?', this could have been more properly named 'My experiences of posting to just myself'. This approach expresses the subject matter, with a twist of enigma which should draw some attention. Although one works well, the other I guess, can be more effective, with a line of thinking drawn from writing a subject title. The way you explain your questions too is very important. It shouldn't be overly elaborate, or under stated. The replyer should not have to ask questions. This can, maybe, scare some people away. I'm often only scared away if the poster writes too much... I usually don't have the time or interest to read a thesis. I hope this helps bro, M. On 3/2/06, James Deakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I know its difficult. Time is short and there are lots of questions. On 3/2/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I used to answer lots of questions, but I just dont have the time anyu more. This is probably also because it seems to me there are more questions too. Regards Hank On 3/1/06, Manuel Saint-Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get that feeling sometimes also- I console myself with the thought that the people answering questions are just as swamped as I am and are answering in between getting their own questions answered. True or not - It's good for the self esteem. M On 3/1/06, James Deakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All my posts get ignored was it something i said? James ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions?
Here is the Live Docs spot where I got the code: http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flash/8/main/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Partsfile=1586.html - Original Message - From: Mike Boutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Yes I also tried this with the same results. Merrill, Jason wrote: var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); Does that really work? I know you said you got it from the help docs and all, but I always thought the Flash player, when it came to loading XML, ran single threaded in the sense that all other caluculations had to stop until the XML was loaded. I ask because with the code you posted, I tried it on a 2mb XML file and pctLoaded traces NaN, and my_xml.getBytesLoaded traces 0 the entire time the file is loading. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Berkey Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:20 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? I found this xml dynamic preloader in the flash 8 docs that works like a charm. You need to tweak the location of the preloader bar, and the name of your xml file, but it's pretty sweet for larger xml loads. var barWidth:Number = 200; var barHeight:Number = 6; this.createEmptyMovieClip(pBar_mc, ); var bar:MovieClip = pBar_mc.createEmptyMovieClip(bar_mc, 10); bar.beginFill(0xFF, 100); bar.moveTo(0, 0); bar.lineTo(barWidth, 0); bar.lineTo(barWidth, barHeight); bar.lineTo(0, barHeight); bar.lineTo(0, 0); bar.endFill(); bar._xscale = 0; var stroke:MovieClip = pBar_mc.createEmptyMovieClip(stroke_mc, 20); stroke.lineStyle(0, 0x00); stroke.moveTo(0, 0); stroke.lineTo(barWidth, 0); stroke.lineTo(barWidth, barHeight); stroke.lineTo(0, barHeight); stroke.lineTo(0, 0); pBar_mc.createTextField(label_txt, 30, 0, barHeight, 100, 21); pBar_mc.label_txt.autoSize = left; pBar_mc.label_txt.selectable = false; pBar_mc.label_txt.textColor = 0xFF; // location of preloader on the movie stage pBar_mc._x = -160; pBar_mc._y = 0; var my_xml:XML = new XML(); my_xml.ignoreWhite = true; my_xml.onLoad = function(success:Boolean) { pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = undefined; if (success) { myText.text = my_xml; pBar_mc._visible=false; pBar_mc.label_txt._visible=false; trace(XML loaded successfully); } else { trace(Unable to load XML); } }; my_xml.load(Publications.xml); pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = function() { var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); if (!isNaN(pctLoaded)) { pBar_mc.bar_mc._xscale = pctLoaded; pBar_mc.label_txt.text = pctLoaded + % loaded; if (pctLoaded = 100) { pBar_mc.onEnterFrame = undefined; } } } - Original Message - From: Mike Boutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Yes I have this problem too, except the xml im loading can be rather large and it causes flash player to freeze up for a few seconds when parsing. - Original Message - From: Scott Pobiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions? Hello flashcoders, I was wondering what solutions people have for activity while trying to load and parse XML data? My application takes a solid 2-3 seconds to load and all attempts to build preloaders and progress meters seem to fail. It seems that the application is hanging while it sorts out the XML data. I suppose that this topic might also be valuable for other applications. Thoughts? Comments? Thanks all, Scott ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:
[Flashcoders] Clone Array of Type Object
Is it possible to clone and array in AS 2.0? I have copied the array but that just places a pointer at the existing array. I am looking to clone/duplicate the array to separate the two data elements without having to do a for loop. This of course stops working once you use objects or multi-dimensional arrays. Thanks! Wade ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
That's suprising information, except, I wonder its accuracy... No offense friend, so many come and run a mouth, I don't know what to take seriously anymore. Don't expect me to do your homework for you. US copyright and patent law is bad and getting worse, but it is largely because some idiot thought it would be a good idea to model it after the current EU copyright and patent law. The fact that Europe had inherent copyright and both patents and copyrights that last into perpetuity was used as justification for many of the stupidest parts of the DMCA and other current US legislation. Despite the fact that it directly contradicts the US Constitution. sigh... my government... ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0?
http://www.meychi.com/archive/31.php ASCrypt is amazing! Wade On 3/2/06 3:27 PM, Ing. Mario Falomir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a prototype :), it could be useful and you could make a class out of it :) http://www.sephiroth.it/proto_detail.php?id=51 Cheers On 3/2/06, jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://www.meychi.com/ they have one. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 02 March 2006 16:53 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: [Flashcoders] MD5 Class in AS2.0? I see a couple older MD5 classes in 1.0. Is there a 2.0 version floating around somewhere? Thanks Chris ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] ScrollPane Track Problem
Has anyone encountered this problem with the scrollPane? The first time I click the track, nothing happens. When I click the track again, the scrollPane positions itself in the location of the first click. Need help quick. Any insight greatly appreciated. -vf ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] More trace logging problems
Am I the only one who has trace() logging mysteriously die every few boots? -Josh -- His comrades fought beside him, Van Owen and the rest... But of all the thompson gunners- Roland was the best. Josh McDonald Analyst Programmer Information Technology Ph: 61 7 3006 6460 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Messages included in this e-mail and any of its attachments are those of the author unless specifically stated to represent WorkCover Queensland. The contents of this message are to be used for the intended purpose only and are to be kept confidential at all times. This message may contain privileged information directed only to the intended addressee/s. Accidental receipt of this information should be deleted promptly and the sender notified. This e-mail has been scanned by Sophos for known viruses. However, no warranty nor liability is implied in this respect. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] Using Window component mouse overs are still listening
I'm using the Window component in modal mode. That works fine. But when I move the mouse over other parts of my project the mouse overs, mouse ups and mouse downs are still firing off. Is this a bug or a feature? Judah ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Don't expect me to do your homework for you. US copyright and patent law is bad and getting worse, but it is largely because some idiot thought it would be a good idea to model it after the current EU copyright and patent law. The fact that Europe had inherent copyright and both patents and copyrights that last into perpetuity was used as justification for many of the stupidest parts of the DMCA and other current US legislation. Despite the fact that it directly contradicts the US Constitution. sigh... my government... ryanm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright The problem you have is that you can get obviously patents on generic ideas in the US, even more ridiculous (to stress this) as it turns out that balthaser started with just a rough description in 2001 redefining it over and over again in the last 5 years as time went by and new ideas (from others) came up..something totaly impossible over here.. A good copyrightexample btw. is the micky mouse Copyright in this case is usefull and justified. anything else is ridiculous, like Disney holds a patent of animalcartoons in general, and isn´t granted in Europe at no point... And as you can´t find this in Europe your law cant be borrowed here form Europe, whatever they tell you..and hey, since when do they listen to us ?? But all this is very simple: vote carefully and make use of your rights Best wishes Matthias ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Heh, well, thanks for making my homework harder, I think I'll take your word for it for now. M. On 3/2/06, ryanm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's suprising information, except, I wonder its accuracy... No offense friend, so many come and run a mouth, I don't know what to take seriously anymore. Don't expect me to do your homework for you. US copyright and patent law is bad and getting worse, but it is largely because some idiot thought it would be a good idea to model it after the current EU copyright and patent law. The fact that Europe had inherent copyright and both patents and copyrights that last into perpetuity was used as justification for many of the stupidest parts of the DMCA and other current US legislation. Despite the fact that it directly contradicts the US Constitution. sigh... my government... ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
A good copyrightexample btw. is the micky mouse Except that mickey Mouse should be in the public domain already. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] RIA patent granted
Except that's not the kind of patent action this case addresses. This one is specifically someone developing or copying an idea that already existed, and then, upon finding it not yet patented, patenting it and thereby attempting to extort money out of others, some of whom did all the originally development. This silly business model of profit solely through litigation has got to stop. -- Byron Barn Canfield Actually DNA work, drug design, and all that kind of stuff is incredibly important work that if not protected there would be no motivation to do. If someone discovers a gene after spending, say $500 Million, should someone else be able to come along and spend $1 Million and compete from the same starting line? Patents protect innovation. The problem is that innovations, once accepted by the public, often seem obvious and inevitable. Often they just **seem** to be obvious, but are not. There are lots of obvious things that dont catch on and vice versa. Broad acceptance is not the same as obvious, but many dont understand that distinction. If someone actually solves any of the biological mysteries that will help us cure diseases and make life more comfortable, they absolutely deserve protection. Regards Hank On 3/2/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, hmm... The genes which comprise breathing should soon be patented then. Sighs* ( pun intended ) M. On 3/2/06, Kenneth Kawamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never mind the breathing, your DNA itself is patented: your existence is in bleach of the U.S. patent law! http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1013_051013_gene_patent.html Kenneth Kawamoto www.materiaprima.co.uk On 3/2/06, Serge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you say, if somebody would like to patent a process of breathing? ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] multi-threading / xml progress meter solutions?
Make sure you're loading a file from a web server, not locally. Local files will be loaded in one shot so getBytesTotal will not be what you expect. In my experience getBytesTotal will not be ready in the same frame, or possibly even the next, but whenever Flash is able to get the size of the file from the server. The slow part of loading a large local XML file is the parsing of the XML by Flash, not the loading of the file itself. all other caluculations had to stop until the XML was loaded. That's true for local files: XML, SWF, etc. Not true when loading from a web server. Derek Vadneau Yes I also tried this with the same results. Merrill, Jason wrote: var pctLoaded:Number = Math.floor(my_xml.getBytesLoaded() / my_xml.getBytesTotal() * 100); Does that really work? I know you said you got it from the help docs and all, but I always thought the Flash player, when it came to loading XML, ran single threaded in the sense that all other caluculations had to stop until the XML was loaded. I ask because with the code you posted, I tried it on a 2mb XML file and pctLoaded traces NaN, and my_xml.getBytesLoaded traces 0 the entire time the file is loading. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com