Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
This sounds to me like the unix guys who, way back in the day thought
the gui was just a waste and the command line ruled.
I am not saying every interface needs 3d, but 3d will be an important
part of ui's in the future. Take, for example, apple's time machine ui
in the upcoming version of OSX. It takes something really complicated,
and by making it 3d, makes it really easy to understand. There will
ulimately be whole new types of applications that require an
additional deimension of expression that will be enabled by 3d.
Regards,
Hank.
On 12/6/06, eric dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items anytime
soon. That includes product items for the most part too.
- e.
On 12/6/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That rocks. I'm blown away. I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into Flash
IDE 9. Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...
Jason Merrill
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slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
still waiting to make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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RE: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items anytime soon. That includes product items for the most part too. 3D is useful for all kinds of things - besides the obvious one: games, there is also product training, product promotions (you said you weren't keen on that, but look at the web sites of the majow automakers for example), training simulations, you name it. I develop training games, simulations, and interactions, and to have 3D in Flash natively would open a whole bunch of possibilities. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I think if Flash is to stay alive in the longterm, then it definitely needs to consider 3D. And hardware acceleration for the 2D stuff, where available. Ian On 12/7/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3D is useful for all kinds of things - besides the obvious one: games, there is also product training, product promotions (you said you weren't keen on that, but look at the web sites of the majow automakers for example), training simulations, you name it. I develop training games, simulations, and interactions, and to have 3D in Flash natively would open a whole bunch of possibilities. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I vote for Java/OpenGL. Skip on Processing -- it's way too limiting unless you drop their IDE and directly import the related jars. I recently completed a project using LWJGL (http://www.lwjgl.org) and it was blistering fast. In fact, I'm going to be open-sourcing it sometime today if you're interested. It was a game, but I wrote lots of code that could be applied anywhere, including tweening and shape primitive drawing tools. Scott On 07/12/06, Danny Kodicek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which makes me ask: if you're developing a visualization product that requires intense graphical animation with quality scripting abilitieswhat products are out their to do this? Flash is close but is there something that provides more quartz-like animations? I have no idea what Quartz is, but Director is a quality package with excellent scripting capabilities and accelerated 3D. Danny ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I have no idea what Quartz is, but Director is a quality package with excellent scripting capabilities and accelerated 3D. Director does not run in the Flash player. A huge disadvantage in practicality for large and/or controlled audiences IMO. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
:) Some people still think that. Many professors at my school use
command-line mail clients. It's insanity!
On 07/12/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This sounds to me like the unix guys who, way back in the day thought
the gui was just a waste and the command line ruled.
I am not saying every interface needs 3d, but 3d will be an important
part of ui's in the future. Take, for example, apple's time machine ui
in the upcoming version of OSX. It takes something really complicated,
and by making it 3d, makes it really easy to understand. There will
ulimately be whole new types of applications that require an
additional deimension of expression that will be enabled by 3d.
Regards,
Hank.
On 12/6/06, eric dolecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items anytime
soon. That includes product items for the most part too.
- e.
On 12/6/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That rocks. I'm blown away. I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into Flash
IDE 9. Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Organizational Effectiveness
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slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
still waiting to make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
Jason, could you describe your point of view here? For my instance, I'm running a visualization as an exe off the desktop (independent of the browser). Would director be worthwhile to look into for this instance, as I would be using it for a very specific usage? -lincoln On Dec 7, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: I have no idea what Quartz is, but Director is a quality package with excellent scripting capabilities and accelerated 3D. Director does not run in the Flash player. A huge disadvantage in practicality for large and/or controlled audiences IMO. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
As an exe, sure, doesn't matter what you use to make it. Director would be a good choice if there is interactivity, but if there is no interactivity, you could export a movie sequence from a high-end 3-D app. Depends on what you want to do with the 3D model(s). Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lincoln Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:00 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java Jason, could you describe your point of view here? For my instance, I'm running a visualization as an exe off the desktop (independent of the browser). Would director be worthwhile to look into for this instance, as I would be using it for a very specific usage? -lincoln On Dec 7, 2006, at 7:15 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: I have no idea what Quartz is, but Director is a quality package with excellent scripting capabilities and accelerated 3D. Director does not run in the Flash player. A huge disadvantage in practicality for large and/or controlled audiences IMO. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organizational Effectiveness ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I recently completed a project using LWJGL (http://www.lwjgl.org) and it
was blistering fast. In fact, I'm going to be open-sourcing it
sometime today if you're interested. It was a game, but I wrote lots
of code that could be applied anywhere, including tweening and shape
primitive drawing tools.
I had a look to the typical gear example, and I have to say that it
REALLY sucks, comparing to the one I see recently done in Ruby + OpenGL
(here the .exe: http://nuthinking.com/temp/gears.rar).
The code seems fine but it is way too cranky, I'm wondering if it is a
performance issue then. I didn't do the gear in Processing, but I don't
think it can go worse than that.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I can't comment on someone else's code, but even in that example I was
getting 500 fps on my 4 year old computer. Doesn't seem too bad to me.
Scott
On 07/12/06, Christian Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently completed a project using LWJGL (http://www.lwjgl.org) and it
was blistering fast. In fact, I'm going to be open-sourcing it
sometime today if you're interested. It was a game, but I wrote lots
of code that could be applied anywhere, including tweening and shape
primitive drawing tools.
I had a look to the typical gear example, and I have to say that it
REALLY sucks, comparing to the one I see recently done in Ruby + OpenGL
(here the .exe: http://nuthinking.com/temp/gears.rar).
The code seems fine but it is way too cranky, I'm wondering if it is a
performance issue then. I didn't do the gear in Processing, but I don't
think it can go worse than that.
chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
Oh, that was the Ruby version. I just tried the Java version and I'm
getting about 2000 fps. 4x faster doesn't REALLY suck in my book.
And what would you expect? Java's pretty speedy.
Scott
On 07/12/06, Scott Hyndman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't comment on someone else's code, but even in that example I was
getting 500 fps on my 4 year old computer. Doesn't seem too bad to me.
Scott
On 07/12/06, Christian Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently completed a project using LWJGL (http://www.lwjgl.org) and it
was blistering fast. In fact, I'm going to be open-sourcing it
sometime today if you're interested. It was a game, but I wrote lots
of code that could be applied anywhere, including tweening and shape
primitive drawing tools.
I had a look to the typical gear example, and I have to say that it
REALLY sucks, comparing to the one I see recently done in Ruby + OpenGL
(here the .exe: http://nuthinking.com/temp/gears.rar).
The code seems fine but it is way too cranky, I'm wondering if it is a
performance issue then. I didn't do the gear in Processing, but I don't
think it can go worse than that.
chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
Scott Hyndman wrote:
Oh, that was the Ruby version. I just tried the Java version and I'm
getting about 2000 fps. 4x faster doesn't REALLY suck in my book.
And what would you expect? Java's pretty speedy.
4x faster? well, it's also 11 times smaller :)
where do u read 2000 frs? My eyes, that can see only 30 frs, see only a
cranky animation. Probably it's only an animation synch issue.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I ran the source locally, and the framerate is printed to standard
out. Try it yourself.
Scott
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I ran the source locally, and the framerate is printed to standard
out. Try it yourself.
Scott
On 7-Dec-06, at 5:19 PM, Christian Giordano wrote:
Scott Hyndman wrote:
Oh, that was the Ruby version. I just tried the Java version and I'm
getting about 2000 fps. 4x faster doesn't REALLY suck in my book.
And what would you expect? Java's pretty speedy.
4x faster? well, it's also 11 times smaller :)
where do u read 2000 frs? My eyes, that can see only 30 frs, see
only a cranky animation. Probably it's only an animation synch issue.
Best, chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I am not at all knowledgeable about 3D. So I offer the following observations only as an observer looking in. Adobe already has 3D in Acrobat. Six weeks ago at MAX there was a sneak peek of an Acrobat 3D / Flash mashup. Here is the description off of FlashMagazine.com/1336.htmhttp://www.FlashMagazine.com/1336.htm: Michael Kaplan, Acrobat 3D Awesome demo. I snapped a video of this one. Will add it to this article as soon as I get it uploaded, but the key takeaway is FULL swf support in Acrobat 3D. So Adobe definitely has Flash and 3D in their brains. As yet I haven't heard any buzz about FP10, but likely we will have heard something about FP10 by this time next year. And in 2007 we will likely see the introduction of Apollo which has been preannounced as being a Flash/Acrobat/HTML/CSS mashup. So hopefully something in 2007 or 2008 giving some sort of 3D functionality for Flash developers to work with :-) g ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a 1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
However, not sure how much this will help you with a data visualization!
-Scott
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If you really want to get into doing 3d viz work, use Java and OpenGL -
and skip Processing unless you just want to jump right in and be able to
see your results faster.
As Jon says, OpenGL could easily be the best solution, or Java3D at
least. Look these examples without opengl:
http://jamesnsears.com/applets/spies/
http://www.acoustic-cartography.com/processing/
Then of course it depends which kind of application u r doing. For the
web, OpenGL can work but as far as I know only with client hacking.
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a 1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of graphics,
the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in 3D) are
faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm still waiting to
make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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That rocks. I'm blown away. I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into Flash
IDE 9. Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Organizational Effectiveness
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slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
still waiting to make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items anytime
soon. That includes product items for the most part too.
- e.
On 12/6/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That rocks. I'm blown away. I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into Flash
IDE 9. Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Organizational Effectiveness
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slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
still waiting to make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
No, she be AS3. That be why she so fast!:
http://blog.papervision3d.org/2006/12/04/papervision3d-as3-demo/
-Scott
On 12/6/06, Christian Giordano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of graphics,
the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in 3D) are
faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm still waiting to
make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
WPF/E will NOT have 3D support. At least not for a while. It's supposed to
be cross-platform, so hardware acceleration would be problematic. At this
time, as far as I'm aware, WPF only supports 3D on the Windows desktop.
Scott
On 12/6/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That rocks. I'm blown away. I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into Flash
IDE 9. Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Organizational Effectiveness
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of Christian Giordano
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
still waiting to make proper tests though.
Best, chr
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items anytime soon. That includes product items for the most part too. No problem. Don't look:) David ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
I'm with you there, brother, 3D is useful for games, though.
T
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dolecki
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I'm not too keen on seeing 3D interfaces and spinning/whirling items
anytime
soon. That includes product items for the most part too.
- e.
On 12/6/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That rocks. I'm blown away. I wonder if Adobe is working 3D into
Flash
IDE 9. Microsoft just released WPF/E and Expression Blend will be
available for purchase in Q2 2007 - the Flash competitor that does 3D.
I wonder if the Flash 9 IDE will be available before - say Q1 2007...
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
Learning Organizational Effectiveness
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Of Christian Giordano
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
slangeberg wrote:
Regarding performance, FP9 is showing some nice 3D potential (for
a
1-2meg
VM):
http://www.papervision3d.org/demos/seahorse/
Papervision is for Flash 8 and as far as i know, in terms of
graphics, the performance between AS2 + FP8 and AS3 + FP9 are
almost the same.
Then of course all the Math computations (frequently used in
3D) are faster. So yes, probably for 3D AS3 could help. I'm
still waiting to make proper tests though.
Best, chr
--
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[Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
has anyone done a performance comparison between AS3 FP9 and Java/Processing? I'm interested primarily in the area of 3d data visualisation. [e] jbach at bitstream.ca [c] 416.668.0034 [w] www.bitstream.ca ...all improvisation is life in search of a style. - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
Java is still faster than the Flash AVM2. If you really want to get into doing 3d viz work, use Java and OpenGL - and skip Processing unless you just want to jump right in and be able to see your results faster. That said, it really depends on what you want to do with it and how far you plan on taking the results. cheers, jon On Dec 5, 2006, at 10:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone done a performance comparison between AS3 FP9 and Java/ Processing? I'm interested primarily in the area of 3d data visualisation. [e] jbach at bitstream.ca [c] 416.668.0034 [w] www.bitstream.ca ...all improvisation is life in search of a style. - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: Performance of AS3 vs Java
If you really want to get into doing 3d viz work, use Java and OpenGL -
and skip Processing unless you just want to jump right in and be able to
see your results faster.
As Jon says, OpenGL could easily be the best solution, or Java3D at
least. Look these examples without opengl:
http://jamesnsears.com/applets/spies/
http://www.acoustic-cartography.com/processing/
Then of course it depends which kind of application u r doing. For the
web, OpenGL can work but as far as I know only with client hacking.
Best, chr
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