[flexcoders] Flex Apps and Google/Search Engines
Hi All, Does anyone have any information or links about how successful Google and other search engine bots are at crawling Flex Apps? Some of the possibilities for creating online shopping experiences are fantastic, but it has occurred to me that this area of search engine ranking may stumble Flex's adoption in the ecommerce area. Has Adobe considered this or do you have any thoughts on this topic that you would like to share? Regards, Simon Fifield -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding
For a member of the Cairngorm team or anyone who is a Cairngorm expert: Is it good to use Data Binding with Cairngorm or should it be avoided? Can Data Binding be "overused"? Regards, Simon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding
Would you say that it is one of the better/key features of the Flex framework? Simon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven WebsterSent: 11 May 2006 11:51To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding Simon, Data-binding is good. Very good. We advocate it hugely, and the ModelLocator pattern which we added to Cairngorm was our way of encouraging people to leverage data-binding more than we were seeing they were, during consulting engagements. Have bindings. Lots of them, between the Model (ModelLocator) and the view (your MXML components). Let data-binding do the hard work of model-view notifications. Data-binding is simply a short-hand notation for setting up observers/listeners; if you didn't use data-binding, you'd have to do this heavy-lifting yourself. Perhaps data-binding can be abused (used the wrong way - though I can't offer any examples), but overused ? I don't think so. Best wishes, Steven Steven WebsterPractice Director (Rich Internet Applications)Adobe ConsultingWestpoint, 4 Redheughs Rigg, South Gyle, Edinburgh, EH12 9DQ, UKp: +44 (0) 131 338 6108 m: +44 (0)7917 428 947[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of Simon FifieldSent: 11 May 2006 11:14To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 Cairngorm and Data Binding For a member of the Cairngorm team or anyone who is a Cairngorm expert: Is it good to use Data Binding with Cairngorm or should it be avoided? Can Data Binding be "overused"? Regards, Simon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Good Code Stops Working For Me Too
Hi Matt, No they did not. My Client's maintenance contract has expired and he has tried to get it renewed and was told he'd be called back and never was. I must say he's pretty disappointed about the amount of money he's paid out for Flex and what he's got in return. I've now wasted what amounts to a solid week just trying to get good code to work with a system that should just work. I think I'm saying I'm disappointed as well. I want to say that Flex is a fantastic product and it is except my clients service and exceptfor this bug which I just cannot find a workaround for. I've checked that the code does not have any binding warnings - it does not. I've checked for the "dreaded NoChange bug" and it does have this. If Adobe are not going to fix this and release an update for Flex 1.5 (and I think they should) they should at least spend some time working out a workaround that WILL WORK. I'm willing to supply my complete application source code to Adobe if that would help. Is there anything you can do to help or get any of the other Adobe guys to help? Or can anyone on Flexcoders help? Libby has offered some help but I could not get any of her suggestions to resolve the issue. I've also tried the "XWrapper" solution but this cannot work in my case. Regards, Simon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt ChotinSent: 09 May 2006 07:42To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Good Code Stops Working For Me Too Did they contact you? Someone said they would I think. I dont think we have an existing fix for it though. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon FifieldSent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:37 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Good Code Stops Working For Me Too Have support made any response to this issue at all? I still have no solution. Simon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt ChotinSent: 16 April 2006 23:35To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Good Code Stops Working For Me Too Ive forwarded this on to our support team. Its possible we have a hotfix for it already (or theyll know of a workaround or something). Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon FifieldSent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:40 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Good Code Stops Working For Me Too I have some MXML TitleWindow components that have form field that are bound totheir respective VO's. These were working fine but when I started implementing validation with the Validators components Binding stopped working in these TitleWindow components. I have spent several days trying to figure out what has gone wrong but I am certain that the code is good. So I decided to duplicate the code, so I created a new blank file and copied and paste the code into it. I'm using cairngorm and it has a ViewHelper so I did the same with this. The code for the new files is identical with the exception of the name changes for the MXML file and the ViewHelper file. Now when I run the app, the duplicated files work correctly and display the bound data. But the original files are still not binding even though the new Component is running correctly in the same app at the same time! I have read a post by Libby that mentioned good code stops working and followed the response by Matt Chotin, but am still unable to fix the problem (if its the same!). To Adobe/MM: If this is a bug in Flex 1.5, do youintend to release an update for it? Simon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 app hangs when loading
I have a flex app that has been loading perfectly well on my localhost dev machine (WinXP/Apache2/Tomcat5 - http://localhost/flexapp/index.mxml). But when I upload it to the staging server(RHEL3/Apache2/Tomcat5 - http://my.domain.com/index.mxml) it will not load, its just hang at 3% to 7%. I've found people on flexcoders having the same problem but no-one has posted their solution! It can't be a compilation problem because its obviously built the swf and is attempting to load it. It can't be anything to do with Services because it hasn't even got to that stage yet. It can't be the browser because I'm using the same browser/flash playerto request both the dev and staged apps. The only difference I can see is the domain name and tomcat host/context setup - but I think that this must be okay otherwise it would respond with an error (I think). I can't find any solutions to this problem - not on Flexcoders, Google nowhere! Anyone who knows why this is happening - please, please, please help me! Also, but this is not important, my staging server takes ages to compile the app even though it is a monster compared to my local dev server - any ideas? Regards, (desperately) Simon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex1.5 Cairngorm ModelLocator and VO's
Hi, I've made some tweaks to the cairngorm framework for my own purposes, but I would like to ask your opinion of a feature I would like to add. Scenario: User logs in and the Value Objects are all filed with data using Java RemoteObjects. User does lots of stuff then wants to log out. Now I would like to clear the VO's of their data without having to destroy and re-create them. One idea I have to do this is to extend all of my VO's from a base VO class which has a reset() method. This method will clear all the property data in its instance. I would also add a reset() method to the ModelLocator which will iterate through all the registered VO's and call their reset() method. Has anyone got any opinions on this? Is there a better way? Should I even bother? Simon Fifield Senior Developer Mango Solutions -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 - Cairngorm .99 - Binding VO to TextInput help please
Are/have you used a validator with a bound field anywhere in this file?
If so you may be experiencing the same problem as I did. I wasted days
trying to figure out why my Binding had suddenly broken down on several
forms. I was using about 6 or 7 validators per form and the fields in the
forms were using binding which should be no problem. However the binding
just stopped working and I tried for days to get it to work again. In the
end I got it working by commenting out nearly all of the mxml content and
when it started working again I uncommented it and it worked, but then guess
what - it stopped working again.
Libby kindly gave me some pointers and mentioned that you must use the
listener attribute of the Validator tag to explicitly target the field
that you want to validate.
I'm not certain if her solution works but give it a go.
I found a workaround by using just 1 Validator for the entire form and using
a custom validation function.
mx:Validator field=checkContact
validate=contactVH.validateForm(event.validator, event.value) /
Then your validate function could be:
function validateForm( validator, value ) : Void {
if ( value.firstname== || value.firstname==undefined ) {
validator.validationError(firstnameMissing, You
must enter the firstname, firstname);
}
if ( value.lastname== || value.lastname==undefined ) {
validator.validationError(lastnameMissing, You
must enter the lastname, lastname);
}
EmailValidator.validateEmail( validator, value.email, null,
email );
if ( value.telephone== || value.telephone==undefined ) {
validator.validationError(telephoneMissing, You
must enter the landline telephone number, telephone);
}
if ( value.addrstreet== || value.addrstreet==undefined ) {
validator.validationError(addrstreetMissing, You
must enter the street address, addrstreet);
}
if ( value.addrcity== || value.addrcity==undefined ) {
validator.validationError(addrcityMissing, You
must enter the city address, addrcity);
}
if ( value.addrpostcode== || value.addrpostcode==undefined
) {
validator.validationError(addrpostcodeMissing,
You must enter the post code, addrpostcode);
}
}
Its not at all efficient because I validate the form on every change of
every field so there is lots of testing going on - but that's because I need
it to highlight errors as they are being typed or being resolved
This seems to work for me.
If you are not experiencing the Validator/Binding problem - ignore all of
this!
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Suzy Lawson
Sent: 25 April 2006 14:17
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 - Cairngorm .99 - Binding VO to TextInput
help please
Have you tried debugging? set a breakpoint in your onResult of the Command
class and where you explictly set the selectedUser in the model locator.
Once that line has passed, you should stop again then check your text box to
see if it has the value. I find I get a lot further debugging then using
trace statements. Then repeat the process with the second hit when the
behavior works OK. This should hopefully identify your issue.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brueckmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Suzy but my problem isn't with populating a combobox...my
combobox of users populates just fine, when I select a user from the
list and the user is fetched, the user object whose fields are
bound to
various textinput fields in my form are not shown...it's only when I
'touch' the file and refresh my browser, is the user information
shown
correctly in the textinput components of my form...I can't grasp why
this would be happening...
robert l. brueckmann
vice president
merlin securities
595 madison avenue
new york, ny 10022
p: 212.822.4821
f: 212.822.4820
-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Suzy Lawson
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 7:32 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 - Cairngorm .99 - Binding VO to
TextInput help please
Roger,
I have faced the same problem. The reason is that when you deploy
it
the server for the first time, nothing is compiled. So in your
initial
request, your application returns the users before it has compiled
and
created the component...so your call to set the combo box with user
silenty fails. When you hit refresh, since everything is already
compiled, it can set the combobox with the data in time.
Put your logic to fetch the XML user in the creationComplete method
of
your mx:Combobox...or somewhere where you know it is created.
hope this helps. cheers.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brueckmann
rbrueckmann@ wrote:
I tried searching the archives and couldn't find anything
relevant to
what we're doing here, so I'm hoping someone can explain
something:
1. User logs in
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 - Cairngorm .99 - Binding VO to TextInput help please
Hi Robert,
Although on the surface of things our problems were not the same, I'll bet
it's the same thing somewhere under the hood of the Flex 1.5 compiler that
is causing these strange binding problems to occur.
I keep reading of more and more people that are encountering this
binding/compilation bug.
Have you tried changing your flex-config.xml settings to not keep the
compiled mxml components:
!-- cache compiled custom components as swo files --
cache-swosfalse/cache-swos
And maybe try some of the other cache/compiling settings to see if this
resolves your problem. Compiling may be a little slower but it may be a
better workaround than you currently have.
With the growing number of people having these mysterious problems I
wonder if Adobe are going to release an update to resolve them.
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Brueckmann
Sent: 25 April 2006 18:19
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 - Cairngorm .99 - Binding VO to
TextInput help please
Thanks for taking the time for the detailed reply Simon! I WISH it was
validator related. In one instance, I am using a validator but the first
time I saw this behavior was in a simple MXML file that had 3 lists that get
populated with 3 separate message types and directly next to the lists is a
title label and a text area...when the user clicks on a message in any of
the 3 lists, the title and text area should be updated with the selected
message's title and body content.
The title label and body text area have their text attributes bound to
{ModelLocator.selectedMessage.title} and {ModelLocator.selectedMessage.body}
respectively and the change listener on all 3 of the lists is simple
ModelLocator.selectedMessage = event.target.selectedItem;
This NEVER works upon first compilation after a fresh server restart.
If I 'touch' the file that contains this message reader component and
refresh my browser...magically, the title and body start appearing when I
select a message in the lists.
This behavior escapes me and is obviously not conducive to a production
release because I can't exactly go in and 'touch' all necessary files for
this behavior to be fixed...this should work the first time.
I even have a test button on the message reader page that, upon first time
server start and app compilation, when I click on a message and the
ModelLocator.selectedMessage object have been set but the title and body do
not appear, I can click on this button and in an alert body display the
title and the body of the selectedMessage object...I am confirming the
selectedMessage object is getting set with the proper information, the damn
TextInput components do not want to show it to me though...if I open up
FlexBuilder, open up my MessagerReader.mxml file, hit the spacebar,
backspace and then save it, refresh my browser...magically it all works
properly. It's that initial load that is completely baffling me.
I've tried debugging and because my components are being created as children
on the fly it doesn't see the breakpoints I'm setting up. I'm at a loss.
My work around, and this is the kicker, if I take the two fields that
currently, in the same component, reside next to the 3 lists, and wrap them
up into their own MXML file component and add a COMPLETELY EMPTY
public function set message(m:Message){}
method call in this new wrapped up component and then in the original
message reader component, do this:
comp:MessageReaderFields width=100% height=100%
message={ModelLocator.selectedMessage} /
And now, when I select a message, first compilation, 14th compilation, 1st
server restart, 10th server restart, the message title and body field
binding to the ModelLocator.selectedMessage object in my new embedded
component work as they should. Makes sense, right? Nope. Not even a
little bit.
Whatever...looks like I have a work-around for the time being...
robert l. brueckmann
vice president
merlin securities
595 madison avenue
new york, ny 10022
p: 212.822.4821
f: 212.822.4820
-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Simon Fifield
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:33 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 - Cairngorm .99 - Binding VO to
TextInput help please
Are/have you used a validator with a bound field anywhere in this file?
If so you may be experiencing the same problem as I did. I wasted days
trying to figure out why my Binding had suddenly broken down on several
forms. I was using about 6 or 7 validators per form and the fields in the
forms were using binding which should be no problem. However the binding
just stopped working and I tried for days to get it to work again. In the
end I got it working by commenting out nearly all of the mxml content and
when it started working again I uncommented it and it worked, but then guess
what - it stopped
RE: [flexcoders] Flex1.5 Cairngorm ModelLocator and VO's
Haha, No need for me to add reset() methods to all my VO's because I've just added a reInitialise() method to the ModelLocator that reintialises all the Models. Now I need to do similar thing for my ViewHelpers to make the view go back to their normal state when a user logs in. Simon -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Fifield Sent: 25 April 2006 16:13 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex1.5 Cairngorm ModelLocator and VO's Hi, I've made some tweaks to the cairngorm framework for my own purposes, but I would like to ask your opinion of a feature I would like to add. Scenario: User logs in and the Value Objects are all filed with data using Java RemoteObjects. User does lots of stuff then wants to log out. Now I would like to clear the VO's of their data without having to destroy and re-create them. One idea I have to do this is to extend all of my VO's from a base VO class which has a reset() method. This method will clear all the property data in its instance. I would also add a reset() method to the ModelLocator which will iterate through all the registered VO's and call their reset() method. Has anyone got any opinions on this? Is there a better way? Should I even bother? Simon Fifield Senior Developer Mango Solutions -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Eclipse Plugin for Flex 1.5?
I use ASDT for the AS code, WTP/WST for editing the MXML files (using the mxml.xsd for the schema) and I use the mxml c as the project compiler from Eclipse. Its great being able to finally do all of my Java/JSP/AS/MXML/XML/PHP/HTML development in one IDE. Eclipse is allowing me to dump several other tools that I can now do with Eclipse. Its not quite as sleek as FB2 (of course) but it works fairly well. Darron's blog has the details of how to do it - nice job Darron! Simon -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: 26 April 2006 00:42 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Eclipse Plugin for Flex 1.5? Try Flashout for your GUI: http://www.osflash.org/flashout ASDT for your AS: http://www.osflash.org/asdt MTASC for your compiler: http://www.osflash.org/mtasc You can use Oxygen for XML I think. Darron's got more info here: http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000182.cfm - Original Message - From: Dmitry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Eclipse Plugin for Flex 1.5? Gentlemen, Forgive my possibly naive question. But is there an Eclipse plugin for Flex 1.5 and AS 2? And if not, would I be able to use the plugin for Flex 2.0 for development in Flex 1.5 and AS2? Cheers, Dmitry -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Good Code Stops Working For Me Too
I have some MXML TitleWindow components that have form field that are bound totheir respective VO's. These were working fine but when I started implementing validation with the Validators components Binding stopped working in these TitleWindow components. I have spent several days trying to figure out what has gone wrong but I am certain that the code is good. So I decided to duplicate the code, so I created a new blank file and copied and paste the code into it. I'm using cairngorm and it has a ViewHelper so I did the same with this. The code for the new files is identical with the exception of the name changes for the MXML file and the ViewHelper file. Now when I run the app, the duplicated files work correctly and display the bound data. But the original files are still not binding even though the new Component is running correctly in the same app at the same time! I have read a post by Libby that mentioned good code stops working and followed the response by Matt Chotin, but am still unable to fix the problem (if its the same!). To Adobe/MM: If this is a bug in Flex 1.5, do youintend to release an update for it? Simon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] FW: Validator and Binding problem
Hi, I have a form with fields whose values are bound to a ValueObject. The VO is set to a List's selectedItem when this changes. This all works fine until I add Validators for the form fields. And to make matters worse the problem seems to occasionally go away for no apparent reason. I have tried deleting all the cached .swo's in the generated folder but this does not seem to have any permanent effect. I have tried disabling generation of the .swo's but all this does not have a permanent effect. When I had Flex (I'm using 1.5 by the way) configured to keep the generated .swo's the problem was unpredictable but I was generally able to make the Binding work by commenting out the validators. But If I configure it to not keep the generated swo's commenting out the binding stops working with or without the Validators. This problem is a real hassle - has anyone any idea of what is going on? I've read about some weird compiling problem where unpredictable problems can arise over a period of time, but I'm not sure if this is relevant in my case? Thanks for anyone's input. Simon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm ModelLocator
HI This brings up an interesting problem I had recently with the ModelLocator.initialise() method. I am trying to use Binding to its full use, but I had a situation where I was binding to a ModelLocator value before it was being initialised and my view was screwed - the ModelLocator's initialise call in the Applications initialize event handler - which gets called after all the other initialize handlers. So I just added a static variable initialised:Boolean and now I can initialise the ModelLocator anywhere in the app either in a view or a ViewHelper. Do you guys think that this is a good, bad or indifferent approach? Regards, Simon -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Webster Sent: 04 October 2005 21:01 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm ModelLocator Hey, We would tend to have global model objects all hung off the one ModelLocator. For instance, we might have a class Assets.mxml which itself contains 100+ attributes for embedded images, but we'll have one attribute in ModelLocator called assets. However, if you wanted to have multiple ModelLocators, I'd recommend a factory strategy similar to the old cairngorm ViewLocator or ServiceLocator, where the ModelLocator becomes a factory rather than a singleton, and you do things like: ModelLocator.getModel(assets).bannerImage I've a funny feeling we considered this in the Cairngorm Committee, and there were issues with data-binding that chose us to not go for this in the general cairngorm package. But I could be talking rubbish. Steven -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fowleryj Sent: 04 October 2005 20:22 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm ModelLocator Is the ModelLocator intended to be the *only* global repository for variables to which you'll need to bind throughout your application? My ModelLocator is getting huge, and I would like to split it into a few ModelLocators (with different names, obviously). Has anyone done this? Are there any caveats of which I should be aware? How have others dealt with their ModelLocator's large size? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Most low income households are not online. Help bridge the digital divide today! http://us.click.yahoo.com/cd_AJB/QnQLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] How to print PDF file when click on a button
Try looking here for an example of using iFrame in your Flex app: http://coenraets.com/viewarticle.jsp?articleId=95 run the example and you could put your PDF where the web page is and then use _javascript_ to print the PDF (I'm guessing the last bit!) Simon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carson HagerSent: 01 October 2005 01:57To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] How to print PDF file when click on a button That would work or use the iframe approach embedded inside of your application. Carson Carson HagerCynergy Systems, Inc.http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Office: 866-CYNERGY ext. 89Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandip PatilSent: Friday, September 30, 2005 5:20 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] How to print PDF file when click on a button Hi Carson, You mean to say to print my PDF I need to open it in browser like URL Http://localhost:8080/Mydir/Pdf_filname with this code mx:Button label="Print File" click="getUrl(xyz.link, '_blank')" / where xyz is my PDF file name .. Sandip.Carson Hager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flex does not have any native PDF rendering but I'd sure like to seethat in the future with the whole Adobe merger. Your best bet is toload the PDF in an iframe and let the browser launch acrobat. The userwill likely have to click on the print button that acrobat provides. Idon't believe you can script to that aspect of the acrobat container butI could be wrong.Carson Carson HagerCynergy Systems, Inc.http://www.cynergysystems.comEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Office: 866-CYNERGY ext. 89Mobile: 1.703.489.6466-Original Message-From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of sandip_patil01Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:04 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] How to print PDF file when click on a buttonHi All,I want to print PDF file.Which I stored in database.Now I want to printthat PDF file when I click on a button.Here What I want is,Let say I have a file "ABC.mxml" which has a button when I click on thatbutton my PDF file should open.And then from menu I can print that.But how to open that PDF file when I click on that button.Any sugeession Thx in advance,Sandip Patil. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/nhFolB/TM~- --Flexcoders Mailing ListFAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txtSearch Archives:http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! for GoodClick here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Development of components with AS
I asked the same question as point four: These classes are not included in the FlexForFlash.zip file while they can be valuable to the development of good UI components. Does any1 know why? The Macromedia answer was that FlexForFlash.zip was included for backward compatibility with version 1 where the components were heavily based on Flash skins, whereas v1.5 is heavily based on AS skins. I think this issue will be resolved with version 2. Hopefully the documentation for the components in version 2 will be a lot clearer with detailed explanations of what a method does and what it returns under all circumstances etc., and with more detailed explanations of the properties and how they relate to other components - especially for the more complicated components such as the DataGrid and Tree components. The amount of time that I've wasted trying to work out these component when the answers should be in the docs is pretty annoying and has literally cost me in time/money. Matt Chotin kindly pointed me in the direction of a sneaky way to get the ACTUAL component code ( the AS code in the FlashForFlex.zip file is very different to the actual component code used in v1.5 ). Here's how: Run FDB and your mxml using the ?debug=true query (obviously your Flex config needs setting correctly for this). When the Flex App is connected to the FDB run as usual, but instead of continuing, type "list mx.controls.List" to get the actual code for the list component. It lists 10 lines at a time and copying and pasting into an editor is tedious and the line numbers need removing ( I have a saved Find/Replace setup for FlexBuilder if anyone wants it ). Its not pretty but it works, so if anyone has a better/easier way of doing this, I would be pleased to know it. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Manish JethaniSent: 16 May 2005 17:52To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Development of components with ASOn 5/13/05, Erik Westra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, some questions :)Answers inline... 1: _measuredWidth _measuredHeight _measuredPreferredWidth _measuredPreferredHeight __width __height etc. Is there anywhere a list of these kind of properties that can be used with the development of a custom component in actionscript. I would be interested in knowing wich properties are available and what effect they have in the framework.I searched Google for "_measuredPreferredWidth" and unfortunatelyfound only a single page of results. :(http://www.google.com/search?q=_measuredPreferredWidthhttp://search.yahoo.com/search?p=_measuredPreferredWidthAnyway, here's a nice article about how to create components:http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flex/1_5/createcomponents/ 2: MyCustomComponent mx:TextArea / /MyCustomComponent The above piece of xml creates a child on the MyCustomComponent. Im wondering what code is used to determine wich childs must be created. If u extend container, either the container createChildren function or the View container function takes care of this creation. But how does it work?When the MXML is compiled to ActionScript internally, the container(MyCustomComponent) gets a bunch of object descriptors specifying whatchildren it must contain and what properties and styles the childrenmust have. Then when the container is getting initialized, it looksat the object descriptors and created its children using createChild()You can see how the descriptors are set up by setting the followingoption in flex-config.xml !-- write xxx-generated.as file to disk -- !-- These files are generated by the compiler during mxmltranslation. -- keep-generated-astrue/keep-generated-asThen you can open the MyMXMLFile-generated.as file to see thetranslated AS code. Look for "Descriptor" in that file to get anidea. 3: In (for instance) the accordion class the visibility of childs is explicitly set with setVisible(false, true). This is not documented, but an importend part of the framework. Im wondering how many of these (for component development) usefull functions there exists.There may be many, but if they are not in the ASDoc then one has toassume they were not meant for public use. 4: mx.effects.EffectManager mx.core.UIObjectDescriptor mx.container.Box; mx.container.VBox; mx.container.HBox; These classes are not included in the FlexForFlash.zip file while they can be valuable to the development of good UI components. Does any1 know why?No idea. :-/ 5. Does any1 know how a Box determines the size of its children? I mean when u resize a child within a box, the positions of the other childs (and sometimes their sizes) are recalculated. How does this process exactly work.When you resize a child in the box, its parent's "layout" needs
RE: [flexcoders] MXMXL Editor
Hi flexcoders, I've been using FlexBuilder for my MXML/Actionscript and Eclipse for my Java RemoteObjects. FlexBuilder used to be stupidly slow until they put in the switch todisable MXML Design View (Preferences/General), nowI don't have any problems with it no matter how many files I have open. I do nearly all of my work in Flexbuilder and I'm still getting into Eclipse (it's like Photoshop - youcan do so many thingswith it). I really don't like programming Actionscript in it, its so basic. The real reason I use it so much is because I have all of my site settings created for JSP, Flex, and PHP websites. Do any of you know of any way of setting up something comparable in Eclipse? Or perhaps some links to somewhere with examples or tutorials etc? Thanks, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 14 April 2005 08:02To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] MXMXL EditorPrimalCoder...I am actually drooling here :) hehehe.On 4/14/05, Hans Omli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to FlexBuilder, I use Eclipse with the following plug-ins installed: * OxygenXML for coding MXML (can also use _javascript_ editor for Actionscript) * CFEclipse for CFML and CFCs * Sysdeo for controlling Tomcat from within the IDE * Eclipse's built-in Java support for POJOs that will be called as Remote Objects XMLSpy and PrimalScript are also good. -Original Message- From: Ketan Bengali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:17 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] MXMXL Editor Has anybody tried any editors apart from from Flex Builder for mxml? Flex Builder degrades the performance of my PC. -- Regards, Ketan Bengali Yahoo! Groups Links -- Regards,Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.comhttp://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex Non Comercial
I applied a couple of weeks ago and haven't heard a thing back since, perhaps I don't blog enough, but then they should at least tell me what's going on? Simon -Original Message-From: Rich Tretola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 13 April 2005 19:46To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex Non ComercialAnyone here from MM know how long it takes to get a response aboutgetting a non commercial flex licence ?Rich Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi all, Has anyone tried using Zinc to create an EXE from an SWF? How did it turn out? I've tried it and the exe ran, but when the swf attempted to get data from the server, it failed. I couldn't find any information about either Flex or whether it allows AMF communication which my Flex/SWF uses. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi Ali, I specified keep-generated-swfs to be TRUE and just copied this. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005 17:38To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi Simon, I've not tried it, but it sounds like the gateway url (or equivalent if you're using web services rather than remote object) has not been specified, or is specified incorrectly. Did you precompile the swf? If not, how does Zinc request the MXML file - is it over http? Cheers, Ali -- Alistair McLeodDevelopmentDirector iteration::two[EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +44 (0)131 338 6108 This e-mail and any associated attachments transmitted with it may contain confidential information and must not be copied, or disclosed, or used by anyone other than the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please destroy this e-mail, and any copies of it, immediately.Please also note that while software systems have been used to try to ensure that this e-mail has been swept for viruses, iteration::two do not accept responsibility for any damage or loss caused in respect of any viruses transmitted by the e-mail. Please ensure your own checks are carried out before any attachments are opened. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2005 17:31To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi all, Has anyone tried using Zinc to create an EXE from an SWF? How did it turn out? I've tried it and the exe ran, but when the swf attempted to get data from the server, it failed. I couldn't find any information about either Flex or whether it allows AMF communication which my Flex/SWF uses. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi Jesse, Why would it be violating the License? I would be generating the SWF using a fully licensed version of Flex and the user would be communicating (if it worked) with the same Flex server that generated it and would be used by the same people that would be using it online. Maybe I didn't understand the license exactly but I thought that this scenario would be fine. Any official pointers from Macromedia people? Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: JesterXL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005 17:37To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Yes, it works well. Bad... it's against Macromedia's Flex EULA, even if you use Zinc's URL vs. local file option to build the projector. Not sure about your server problem; I wasn't using it to get dynamic data. - Original Message - From: Simon Fifield To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:31 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi all, Has anyone tried using Zinc to create an EXE from an SWF? How did it turn out? I've tried it and the exe ran, but when the swf attempted to get data from the server, it failed. I couldn't find any information about either Flex or whether it allows AMF communication which my Flex/SWF uses. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi Alistair, I use the Cairngorm framework and have a login to start, I type my login details and click login and the clock face just keeps going round and round. I don't really know how to try and debug it, the Zinc debugger shows nothing. I'm just assuming that it is an issue with remoting because I know that some Players do not implement all the communication protocols that are available in the Flash Browser plug-in. I am running the server on the same machine that I'm running the test EXE file on (localhost) but this shouldn't cause any issues. I'll try run the NetConnection Debugger to see if it shows any activity Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005 18:03To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex So, that effectively compiled the gateway url to the url you typed into your browser window. In what way does it fail, just silently, or do you get an error? Did anything appear in the flashlog.txt (need to be running with debug player and have mm.cfg set up) - I'm thinking the players sandbox restrictions may be stopping you Cheers, Ali -- Alistair McLeodDevelopmentDirector iteration::two[EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +44 (0)131 338 6108 This e-mail and any associated attachments transmitted with it may contain confidential information and must not be copied, or disclosed, or used by anyone other than the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please destroy this e-mail, and any copies of it, immediately.Please also note that while software systems have been used to try to ensure that this e-mail has been swept for viruses, iteration::two do not accept responsibility for any damage or loss caused in respect of any viruses transmitted by the e-mail. Please ensure your own checks are carried out before any attachments are opened. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2005 17:45To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi Ali, I specified keep-generated-swfs to be TRUE and just copied this. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005 17:38To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi Simon, I've not tried it, but it sounds like the gateway url (or equivalent if you're using web services rather than remote object) has not been specified, or is specified incorrectly. Did you precompile the swf? If not, how does Zinc request the MXML file - is it over http? Cheers, Ali -- Alistair McLeodDevelopmentDirector iteration::two[EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +44 (0)131 338 6108 This e-mail and any associated attachments transmitted with it may contain confidential information and must not be copied, or disclosed, or used by anyone other than the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please destroy this e-mail, and any copies of it, immediately.Please also note that while software systems have been used to try to ensure that this e-mail has been swept for viruses, iteration::two do not accept responsibility for any damage or loss caused in respect of any viruses transmitted by the e-mail. Please ensure your own checks are carried out before any attachments are opened. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2005 17:31To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi all, Has anyone tried using Zinc to create an EXE from an SWF? How did it turn out? I've tried it and the exe ran, but when the swf attempted to get data from the server, it failed. I couldn't find any information about either Flex or whether it allows AMF communication which my Flex/SWF uses. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi Alistair, Setup Flashlog.txt (thanks for the tip) and here's some output: Warning: 'mx' has no property 'NONMODAL'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'YES'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'NO'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'OK'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'CANCEL'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'MULTIPLE_CONCURRENCY'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'ENVELOPE_TYPE'at ()4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Creating Service for com.mango.aviator.business.PilotDelegate4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Creating gateway connection for null/aviator/amfgatewayWarning: onStatus is not a functionat Object::connect()4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Successfully created Service4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Creating Service for com.mango.aviator.business.PilotLogDelegate4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Successfully created Service4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Creating Service for com.mango.aviator.business.AirportDelegate4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Successfully created ServiceWarning: 'w' has no property 'firstname'at mx_binding_Binding::_srcFunc() ...more like these for ages then... Warning: Reached warning limit of 1004/12 18:27:49 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Invoking login on com.mango.aviator.business.PilotDelegate So its successfully creating a link to the remoting server, but then something somewhere goes wrong. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005 18:03To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex So, that effectively compiled the gateway url to the url you typed into your browser window. In what way does it fail, just silently, or do you get an error? Did anything appear in the flashlog.txt (need to be running with debug player and have mm.cfg set up) - I'm thinking the players sandbox restrictions may be stopping you Cheers, Ali -- Alistair McLeodDevelopmentDirector iteration::two[EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +44 (0)131 338 6108 This e-mail and any associated attachments transmitted with it may contain confidential information and must not be copied, or disclosed, or used by anyone other than the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please destroy this e-mail, and any copies of it, immediately.Please also note that while software systems have been used to try to ensure that this e-mail has been swept for viruses, iteration::two do not accept responsibility for any damage or loss caused in respect of any viruses transmitted by the e-mail. Please ensure your own checks are carried out before any attachments are opened. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2005 17:45To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi Ali, I specified keep-generated-swfs to be TRUE and just copied this. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005 17:38To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi Simon, I've not tried it, but it sounds like the gateway url (or equivalent if you're using web services rather than remote object) has not been specified, or is specified incorrectly. Did you precompile the swf? If not, how does Zinc request the MXML file - is it over http? Cheers, Ali -- Alistair McLeodDevelopmentDirector iteration::two[EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +44 (0)131 338 6108 This e-mail and any associated attachments transmitted with it may contain confidential information and must not be copied, or disclosed, or used by anyone other than the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please destroy this e-mail, and any copies of it, immediately.Please also note that while software systems have been used to try to ensure that this e-mail has been swept for viruses, iteration::two do not accept responsibility for any damage or loss caused in respect of any viruses transmitted by the e-mail. Please ensure your own checks are carried out before any attachments are opened. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2005 17:31To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex Hi all, Has anyone tried using Zinc to create an EXE from an SWF? How did it turn out? I've tried it and the exe ran, but when the swf attempted to get data from the server, it failed. I couldn't find any information about either Flex or whether it allows AMF communication which my Flex/SWF uses. Kind
RE: [flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
When I
run the Flex app as usual in the browser, it continues
correctly:
4/12
18:37:41 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Invoking login on
com.mango.aviator.business.PilotDelegate - Zinc app stops
here4/12 18:37:41 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Invoking getPilot on
com.mango.aviator.business.PilotLogDelegate4/12 18:37:41 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: com.mango.aviator.business.PilotDelegate.login() returned
{_remoteClass: "com.mango.aviator.vo.LoginVO",
loginDate: Tue Apr 12 18:37:41 GMT+0100 2005,
password: "thunder", pilotId: 1,
username: "simon"}4/12 18:37:42 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Invoking getAirports on
com.mango.aviator.business.AirportDelegate4/12 18:37:42 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Invoking getPilotLogBooks on
com.mango.aviator.business.PilotLogDelegate
.and loads more
Any
clues anyone?
Do you
think its a sandbox problem?
Regards,
Simon
-----Original Message-From: Simon Fifield
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005
18:33To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi
Alistair,
Setup Flashlog.txt (thanks for the tip) and here's some
output:
Warning: 'mx' has no property 'NONMODAL'at ()Warning:
'mx' has no property 'YES'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property
'NO'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'OK'at
()Warning: 'mx' has no property 'CANCEL'at ()Warning: 'mx'
has no property 'MULTIPLE_CONCURRENCY'at ()Warning: 'mx' has no
property 'ENVELOPE_TYPE'at ()4/12 18:27:32 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Creating Service for
com.mango.aviator.business.PilotDelegate4/12 18:27:32 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Creating gateway connection for
null/aviator/amfgatewayWarning: onStatus is not a functionat
Object::connect()4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Successfully
created Service4/12 18:27:32 [INFO] RemoteObject_AMF: Creating Service for
com.mango.aviator.business.PilotLogDelegate4/12 18:27:32 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Successfully created Service4/12 18:27:32 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Creating Service for
com.mango.aviator.business.AirportDelegate4/12 18:27:32 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Successfully created ServiceWarning: 'w' has no property
'firstname'at mx_binding_Binding::_srcFunc()
...more like these for ages
then...
Warning: Reached warning limit of 1004/12 18:27:49 [INFO]
RemoteObject_AMF: Invoking login on
com.mango.aviator.business.PilotDelegate
So
its successfully creating a link to the remoting server, but then something
somewhere goes wrong.
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005
18:03To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
So, that effectively compiled the gateway url to the
url you typed into your browser window.
In what way does it fail, just silently, or do you get
an error? Did anything appear in the flashlog.txt (need to be
running with debug player and have mm.cfg set up) - I'm thinking the players
sandbox restrictions may be stopping
you
Cheers,
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2005
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[flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi
Ali,
I
specified
keep-generated-swfs to
be TRUE and just copied this.
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-From: Alistair McLeod
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 April 2005
17:38To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Using Zinc with Flex
Hi Simon,
I've not tried it, but it sounds like the gateway url
(or equivalent if you're using web services rather than remote object) has
not been specified, or is specified incorrectly. Did you precompile the
swf? If not, how does Zinc request the MXML file - is it over
http?
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RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live
Hi Flexcoders, I think that its great that James has posted a link to his Flex site. I also think that some of the negative comments and feedback about the site are just going to put off other people from posting links to their sites here. How about posting some POSITIVE feedback to James and help the collective encouragement here. I think everyone responds much better to POSITIVE than negative - eh? Simon -Original Message-From: James Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 01:14To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site LiveI want to thank everyone on this list for all the help over the past fewmonths! Just minutes ago we launched our all Flex site:http://www.pillardata.comFlex is beautiful and this community makes it even better! Thank youall!-James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live
Hi Shell, On the whole I agree with criticism - as long as its constructive. I hope that when you post your site here that no one will say "its crap" because that's just a useless, careless statement which will not help the creator to improve the site at all, instead it will just put them and others off posting their links here. Others have linked their criticism with constructive tips on how the improvement could be achieved - this kind of criticism is great because it alerts the creator to potential problems and offers direction on how to improve it. Also, I would imagine that the majority of people posting to this group will actually be Flexprogrammers and not have the background indesignlike some of us do. So we have the responsibility of helping those even more so. Having worked in a design environment for over a decade I know that what one designer likes, another despises, and that's why if you get too many peoples opinion of the design, it becomes watered down and is no longer sharp. Personally I think that he's done a pretty good job of making a Flex app look like its not a Flex app and that its a Flash site. Please don't take offence at anything I've said, and please don't stop the constructive criticismbecause I just want everyone (including myself)to get the most out of this forum - which is here to help us all build Flex apps and help usmake our Flex apps better. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Shell Bryson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 11:54To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live People shouldnt be put off of posting sites here. Honest opinion should be encouraged too. Im a web DESIGNER, not a coder, and aesthetics, usability, accessibility and functionality are all equally important to me (and hopefully the end user). While Jamess site might be a technical achievement, Im afraid this means nothing to an end user or the googlebot when it visits! I just dont like the design very much. Ill happily post some of our designs here when Im able to, and I hope to get honest feedback (even if its thats crap) J Try posting a design to a design critique group. S. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2005 11:45To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live Hi Flexcoders, I think that its great that James has posted a link to his Flex site. I also think that some of the negative comments and feedback about the site are just going to put off other people from posting links to their sites here. How about posting some POSITIVE feedback to James and help the collective encouragement here. I think everyone responds much better to POSITIVE than negative - eh? Simon -Original Message-From: James Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 01:14To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live I want to thank everyone on this list for all the help over the past fewmonths! Just minutes ago we launched our all Flex site:http://www.pillardata.comFlex is beautiful and this community makes it even better! Thank youall!-James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] file uploader's news?
I believe that it's in hand. From what I've heard from the MM people, FlashPlayer8 and Flex2 will have this capability. Simon -Original Message-From: Duccio Del Ministro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 12:47To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] file uploader's news?Any news from Macromedia regarding file uploader?RegardsDuccio Del Ministro ___ Nuovo Yahoo! Messenger: E' molto più divertente: Audibles, Avatar, Webcam, Giochi, Rubrica Scaricalo ora! http://it.messenger.yahoo.it Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live
Shell, I've been told I sometimes come across as being arrogant, but what the hell would they know! Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Shell Bryson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 12:27To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live Simon, Fair points of course. You are right about designers youll rarely find two who agree on something J I also agree, James has done a good job at making Flex look like a regular page, which is an achievement and something I hope we can achieve on our own projects. I suppose when it comes down to constructive tips for the design: The speed issue should be looked into. I find the whole site a bit dark, but then thats a taste thing. I would be tempted to introduce some animation, especially when moving between different sections of the site. It could make the site flow a lot better. Also for some reason when the site first loads it sticks my CPU up to 100% for 5 seconds (2.8ghz Windows XP machine with FireFox Ive not tried it on my fast machine yet). I really like this forum, and Ive been lurking for the past 3200 message, and when we get down to the guts of building our UI I imagine this list is going to be invaluable. Not sure why youd think Id take offence J From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2005 12:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live Hi Shell, On the whole I agree with criticism - as long as its constructive. I hope that when you post your site here that no one will say "its crap" because that's just a useless, careless statement which will not help the creator to improve the site at all, instead it will just put them and others off posting their links here. Others have linked their criticism with constructive tips on how the improvement could be achieved - this kind of criticism is great because it alerts the creator to potential problems and offers direction on how to improve it. Also, I would imagine that the majority of people posting to this group will actually be Flexprogrammers and not have the background indesignlike some of us do. So we have the responsibility of helping those even more so. Having worked in a design environment for over a decade I know that what one designer likes, another despises, and that's why if you get too many peoples opinion of the design, it becomes watered down and is no longer sharp. Personally I think that he's done a pretty good job of making a Flex app look like its not a Flex app and that its a Flash site. Please don't take offence at anything I've said, and please don't stop the constructive criticismbecause I just want everyone (including myself)to get the most out of this forum - which is here to help us all build Flex apps and help usmake our Flex apps better. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Shell Bryson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 11:54To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live People shouldnt be put off of posting sites here. Honest opinion should be encouraged too. Im a web DESIGNER, not a coder, and aesthetics, usability, accessibility and functionality are all equally important to me (and hopefully the end user). While Jamess site might be a technical achievement, Im afraid this means nothing to an end user or the googlebot when it visits! I just dont like the design very much. Ill happily post some of our designs here when Im able to, and I hope to get honest feedback (even if its thats crap) J Try posting a design to a design critique group. S. From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 April 2005 11:45To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live Hi Flexcoders, I think that its great that James has posted a link to his Flex site. I also think that some of the negative comments and feedback about the site are just going to put off other people from posting links to their sites here. How about posting some POSITIVE feedback to James and help the collective encouragement here. I think everyone responds much better to POSITIVE than negative - eh? Simon -Original Message-From: James Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 01:14To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex
RE: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site Live
Congrats! Very nice site, and as Scott says - it does indeed look like a proper website. Nice design and colouring, even the servers look good! Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: James Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 08 April 2005 01:14To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] My Company's Flex Site LiveI want to thank everyone on this list for all the help over the past fewmonths! Just minutes ago we launched our all Flex site:http://www.pillardata.comFlex is beautiful and this community makes it even better! Thank youall!-James Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Remote object that returns an array of objects
Hi Jeff, You don't mention if you are using the Cairngorm frameworkor not, but I do and I also use ValueObjects. I took the ViewHelper/ViewLocator pattern and created a ValueObject (or Model) Pattern so that finding ValueObjects from anywhere in your app is as easy as the ViewHelper pattern. If I understand your question correctly its the same thing that I do - wrapping a single array of VOs within a VO. Not be a master of programming patterns and methodologies, I too would be interested in knowing if this is a good solution for our situations. Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Jeff Krueger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 05 April 2005 16:47To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Remote object that returns an array of objects All, I have a method on my app server called getAllUser() that returns UserVO[]. When I get that back in flex as an Array the items inside the array are of type object, instead of the actionScript UserVO that is associated with that java type being returned. My work around for this is to create a UserArrayVO class on both sides (App Server and Flex) and in that class is just one variable that is of type UserVO[] on the server and Array on flex and then I get back the correct classes in flex. So my question is, is this the way to do something like this? Obviously flex knows how to handle the objects when it is within another class, just not when it is an array of them coming back. Thanks Jeff Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Run MXML on PC, Calling to Java on Remote Server - Help
Hi Libby, I'm no J2EE expert and I do not use servlets with Flex, but I do use RemoteObjects. Can't you instantiate your servlet from a Java RemoteObject and call the servlets methods from within the RemoteObject? Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message- From: Libby Chantel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2005 17:55 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Run MXML on PC, Calling to Java on Remote Server - Help I read your chapter but it didn't explain how to do what I am trying to do. I think my favorite part was on page 5, where it says: ... if youre implementing an RIA interface on an existing J2EE infrastructure that has business logic contained in your Servlet tier, consult the Flex documentation to see how you can use RemoteObject to invoke methods exposed on Servlets in your app server. That note was particularly helpful sarcasm in light of the fact I can't find any such info so far in the MM documentation. Eventually I will figure out exactly where to look, I'm sure. So far I can find tidbits, but no examples, of how to write mxml on one machine in flexbuilder, then run it from flexbuilder to invoke java on a remote app server, as if it were a client-server app. Libby --- Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Libby, Chapter 20 of Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex is a free download (I posted in an earlier message) and covers in great detail the use of the RemoteObject tag, to achieve just what you are trying to do. Steven -Original Message- From: Libby Chantel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2005 18:59 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Run MXML on PC, Calling to Java on Remote Server - Help I am a newbie with Flex, trying to get it going for a proof of concept. I have Flex installed on my remote Java Server (Websphere). I can successfully make calls from Flash apps on my pc to the java programs running on the server. So far, I cannot get the very same calls from Flex to work. I cannot find an example of this setup in the MM doco for Flex. Could someone PLEASE either post a link to the doco that explains it in terms a dummy like me can understand, or, post sample MXML code that works for you? Or, maybe even do both :) Thank you very much, Libby __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.2 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.2 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Remote object that returns an array of objects
Hi
Jeff,
I do
exactly what you are doing in Test 2, I duplicated this pattern from the Login
example of the Cairngorm framework files. If you find a better way, let me know
because it does add unnecessary extra work to wrap an extra value object around
your array when that's all you want back from the server.
Regards,
Simon
Fifield
-Original Message-From: Jeff Krueger
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 05 April 2005
21:56To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] Remote object that returns an array of
objectsI use the UserVO within script in the
application, not in the exact script,but in other places. I
was doing an alert with the typeof function. I don't have a function
butI do have lots of public vars which come back undefined. So I
assume theywere not of the proper type.I think I have a test case
that should prove the class is available but I amnot sure. I am
using the cairngorm framework. So in my command class inthe onResult
class I can test these two sets of code. Obviously I switchout the
java code to return the correct types to match the test.Test 1 (Fails,
but I do get the correct length array of 1 item)var tempArray:Array =
Array (event.result);for (var i = 0; itempArray.length;
i++){ var tempUser:UserVO =
UserVO(tempArray[i]);
mx.core.Application.alert ("Test with userVo " +
tempUser.userName);}Test 2 (Succeeds)var temp:UserArrayVO =
UserArrayVO (event.result);var tempUser:UserVO =
UserVO(temp.userArray[0]);mx.core.Application.alert ("Test2 with userVo "
+ tempUser.userName);Does that test make any sense or prove or
disprove anything?ThanksJeff-Original
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RE: [flexcoders] Remote object that returns an array of
objects[snip]Info: Serializing response (Message
#0 targetURI=/2/onResult, responseURI=null) (Array
#0) [0] = (Typed Object #1
'net.crownmedia.flex.user.vo.UserVO')[/snip]The AMF trace says
objects are being sent back as Typed AMF Objects inboth cases... so now
you have to determine whether the type is linked inat compile time (this
will depend on more than just an import statement- you actually have to
use the type somewhere in the script) so that itis available at
runtime.When you said "the items inside the array are of type object"
how areyou determining that they are just a plain old ActionScript object?
Notethat typeof() in AS2 does not tell you the class name of an instance,
italways says object for anything that is derived from object. Do
you have a function on your ActionScript UserVO class that you cancall to
check whether it was correctly instantiated as
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Events (UK South)
Hi Aral, Thanks for the reply. Yes I would be interested. I have also had an email from "Greenfishinwater" that also expressed interest and I have mailed them back to see if they would be interested in meeting up. As I said to Greenfish (don't know their real name yet) I have never been to a User Group - apart from a local BBC MicroUser Club when I was a kid. So I don't really know what goes on. Generally I try to avoid going into London unless I really need to - I prefer to drive than train. Greenfish is in Guildford and I'm in Southampton - perhaps we could all meet up somewhere in between? Here are some questions I asked Greenfish: For example, where do you find you spend the most time - is it debugging Actionscript/MXML? Or, is it debugging RemoteObject/WebService communications? If you have found ways of overcoming these types of problems - how? Have you made any components or extension to components that you would be willing and able to share? Would you be willing/able to work collaboratively on some component development? What are your other skills? What platform do you develop on/for? Do you program other languages? Do you work for a company or are you a lone developer? If you have any questions for me, fire away! Kind Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Aral Balkan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 04 April 2005 00:12To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Events (UK South)We are going to be having a session on Flex at our next meeting (London MMUG) and I am thinking of possibly getting a Brighton RIA UserGroup together. Would there be any interest in this?All the best,Aral -- Aral Balkan Instructor, Ariaware Trainingwww.ariaware.com/training/courses/ Director, London MMUGwww.londonmmug.org greenfishinwater wrote: Simon, I know of nothing outside of Edinburgh as Steve Webster has pointed out. I live in Guildford, maybe we could create out own usergroup, for the south, southeast etc. Andrew Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex Events (UK South)
Hi Flexcoders, Does anyone know of any Flex events in the South of the UK - particularly near Southampton? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Mango Solutions Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Perhaps Macromedia are planning a version of Flex that will allow the programmer to use MXML/Actionscript to generate an SWF, without the whole Flex Server Side Application (sorry - Flex Enterprise Server!) I imagine that the price for this would still be more than Flash MX 2004 Pro say 1,200 or so. I would pay that. Of course then connecting up to a server would still be a difficult task especially when you've used Flex and its built in Flash Remoting Gatewayand experienced how easy it makes it. So small companies that build web sites and small webapps would be able to take advantage of MXML without having to use Flash to do the whole job. Of course they would still buy Flash because its good or doing animation - just look at all those Flash Banner ads. Has this option been considered at Macromedia? Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Hans Omli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 18:16To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 priceMacromedia selected the medium/large enterprise as the beachhead toestablish Flex as a worthwhile technology in the marketplace. With 200customers as of December, I'd say Macromedia has been quite successfullaying this foundation. It seems to me the new pricing signals an evengreater focus on this market segment as Flex moves from a technology used byinnovators (most of us here) to a product for early adopters. Since earlyadopters are most willing to pay high prices for the right to use a newproduct, the new pricing seems to make sense. I had expected new pricing inthe 2.0 timeframe since this would be a natural point for transitioning froma technology to a product focus, but can see that early adopters areprobably more interested in development support than they are in additionalfunctionality at this point in the adoption life cycle. So, from thatstandpoint, the recent price changes combined with bundled support make awhole lot of business sense.Most of the friction around Flex pricing is more a question of target marketthan anything else, with the high level of friction in forums like thisindicating to me there is significant demand for technology like Flex comingfrom many other markets outside of medium/large enterprises. I will becurious to see if/how Macromedia expands Flex into a more mainstream market.I suppose in some sense this has already begun with the limited use of Flexin ColdFusion MX 7. Nonetheless, it seems there is still quite a bit ofmoney on the table for Laszlo and others to pursue... at least for now. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Good point Robert. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Robert Stuttaford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 18:46To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Simon, It is possible, currently, to use Flex with FlashORB for remoting. Apart from the license, its perfectly capable of being a standalone product mxmlc.exe is the compiler, I imagine a simple GUI for that would be all one would need. Technically sensible, but I think Macromedia want to regain some of their investment and let the current incarnation mature somewhat. As Hans mentions below, Im sure Macromedia are aware that Flex could provide massive benefit outside of their current focus. Well see, I guess J Robert From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 April 2005 07:30 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Perhaps Macromedia are planning a version of Flex that will allow the programmer to use MXML/Actionscript to generate an SWF, without the whole Flex Server Side Application (sorry - Flex Enterprise Server!) I imagine that the price for this would still be more than Flash MX 2004 Pro say £1,200 or so. I would pay that. Of course then connecting up to a server would still be a difficult task especially when you've used Flex and its built in Flash Remoting Gatewayand experienced how easy it makes it. So small companies that build web sites and small webapps would be able to take advantage of MXML without having to use Flash to do the whole job. Of course they would still buy Flash because its good or doing animation - just look at all those Flash Banner ads. Has this option been considered at Macromedia? Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Hans Omli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 18:16To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Macromedia selected the medium/large enterprise as the beachhead toestablish Flex as a worthwhile technology in the marketplace. With 200customers as of December, I'd say Macromedia has been quite successfullaying this foundation. It seems to me the new pricing signals an evengreater focus on this market segment as Flex moves from a technology used byinnovators (most of us here) to a product for early adopters. Since earlyadopters are most willing to pay high prices for the right to use a newproduct, the new pricing seems to make sense. I had expected new pricing inthe 2.0 timeframe since this would be a natural point for transitioning froma technology to a product focus, but can see that early adopters areprobably more interested in development support than they are in additionalfunctionality at this point in the adoption life cycle. So, from thatstandpoint, the recent price changes combined with bundled support make awhole lot of business sense.Most of the friction around Flex pricing is more a question of target marketthan anything else, with the high level of friction in forums like thisindicating to me there is significant demand for technology like Flex comingfrom many other markets outside of medium/large enterprises. I will becurious to see if/how Macromedia expands Flex into a more mainstream market.I suppose in some sense this has already begun with the limited use of Flexin ColdFusion MX 7. Nonetheless, it seems there is still quite a bit ofmoney on the table for Laszlo and others to pursue... at least for now. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] DataGrid getColumnName problem
Hi
Flexcoders,
I have a DataGrid
that uses the same data in 2 columns but each with a different labelFunction to
display the data in different ways. the data is called 'depart' in the
dataProvider and so to get this data I have to the same name to the
2columns in the DataGrid that display the data
differently.
When I use
dg.getColumnName('depart') I always get the first of the 2 columns. I know I can
use dg.getColumnAt( colIndex ) butin the future Iwould prefer to use
the column name. I have seen an extended DataGid that allows the dragging and
re-ordering of columns so the ColumnIndex will not be
possible.
Can I use id
somehow?
Kind Regards,
Simon Fifield
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message-From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 priceWhat about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' isoverkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, thenthis is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and neverlook back. We will have wasted months of training and actualdevelopment time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a verysmall shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not careabout the little guy at all anymore.-- MatthewOn Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash, As a Flash developer, I'd like to chime in here.. The fact that Lazslo works on Flash Player 5 really isn't an issue. In fact, I'd say it's a bonus! Here's why: * Because Lazslo outputs to Flash Player 5, it has a larget target audience. See the penetration stats: http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html -- FP 5 is 97%. FP7 is 82% - so apps created in Laszlo have a better chance of being viewed * There are no "older is slower" arguments. The v7 player will play a v5 swf faster than the v5 player, because the v7 player itself is faster than the v5 player. * The internals are abstracted away. Right now your Lazslo code publishes to .swf, but it's not tied to the Flash Player in any way - there are no MovieClip references, etc in your lazslo code. In fact, you don't even use ActionScript, you write in _javascript_. There's nothing to stop someone from writing a new "player" and with a few tweaks to the Laszlo compilation process you could have output for that new player. When you develop an application, do you really care about the internal API calls of Flash Player 7? If I'm a Lazslo developer, I say no.. I know what tags I can use in my markup, I know what the APIs are, and I use them and get a *working* .swf file. As long as it works, that's all I care about. If SWF5 is all it takes to make it work, then that's cool. Is there anything in v7 SWF that would benefit Lazslo apps? Not really. Some of the new things added in FP 7 over FP 6 is case sensitivty, depth management functions (getNextHighestDepth..) , context menu, etc,. The biggest change would probably be embedded video, and that may be a show stopper for some.. but it's rare that an "application" needs video in it. FP 6 adds some things over FP5 like ShardObjects, so I can see how upgrading to v6 in that respect would be benefitical. FP 6 also added different event handlers than FP5 (.onPress, vs on (press)) - but that has 0 effect on how I code my Lazslo markup. The FP6 style event handlers are meant to make AS coding easier, but Lazslo doesn't care about that because it has it's own coding model. The fact that Lazslo accomplishes what it does on an old version of the SWF format is not a drawback, it's a benefit. There's really no reason to use SWF7 if everything you need to do can be accomplished in SWF5. The fact that Lazslo separates itself from the Flash Player is another benefit as well.. If something should ever happen, maybe legal issues or whatever, Lazslo can output to, say, Java applets or whatever, since the code is all abstracted from the VM and the compilation process handles the dirty work of putting your code into a format the VM can understand. -d Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Hi Lucian, I will need to speak to my clients ( I can't remember if they purchased the Flex License at v1 or v1.5 ). I'm sure that there is an amicable agreement that can be reached - price increases are an ongoing problem for everyone around the world but particularly for the small to medium whoever/whatever. Although larger companies must be careful to count the pennies (therefore looking after the pounds) they are in a much better position to find the cash to make larger purchases if it makes sense in the bigger picture. I imagine ( and I may be wrong ) that most of us are a little disturbed by not being able to see a price on a tag. Hardly anyone in the UK is used to haggling, and personally I'm not keen on squeezing as much out of someone as I can. I am not the one who authorises purchases, and I imagine that most of us here are in the same boat. It just feels very uncomfortable seeing a price tag for a small bag of sweets, a price tag for a large bag of sweets, but for medium and jumbo bags you have to haggle with the shop keeper. I'm not saying its wrong - I just think that lots of developers like me have a hard time having to go back to the people who make the purchasing decisions and trying to get them to pay an unknown but considerable amount of money for something that they are not sure that they want, and we are the ones that have to persuade them that they want it. For my part, I sold Flex based on the knowledge that my clients wanted to develop their webapps using the Flash Player. My experience of creating webapps in the Flash environment was most unpleasant(especially when having to work with designers that can't program and aren't at all tidy!) so I pushed the fact that the webapps would be developed much much faster using Flex thanwith Flash. Yes, there has been a bigger learning curve than I thought, but if I had tried to do this using Flash only - well I think that I would be in a hospital room with nice padded walls to dampen the sound of my screaming! I love Flex. And I'm gladsomeone else has bought it for me to work with. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Lucian Beebe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 21:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Maintenance will be calculated based on the CPUs or Quick Start price if you go that route. . I think thats pretty consistent with other software industry norms. Ill make you the same offer, Simon. Where you have serious projects running, lets talk directly and find a way to make this work out. Lucian From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:49 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price My clients have also stretched themselves to purchase the 2cpu license, which cost more than theDual Processor server they purchased to match the spec. Now that the license for Flex is either 1 or 4 cpu does this mean that my clients are going to have to more than double the original purchase price when they need to renew their maintenance license? Or will the 1 cpu license cover the whole server? (i.e. does cpu mean server or does it mean processors?) Simon -Original Message-From: Matthew Shirey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 31 March 2005 18:17To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price What about a 2cpu license? Please answer. Your 'starter kit' isoverkill for us. If our price is based on a minimum 4cpu price, thenthis is no longer a joke at all. We will have to drop Flex and neverlook back. We will have wasted months of training and actualdevelopment time. This is NOT a price I can justify to anyone.We're seriously disappointed in Macromedia at this time. We're a verysmall shop and its starting to look like Macromedia does not careabout the little guy at all anymore.-- MatthewOn Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:00:13 -0500, Darron J. Schall[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Steiner wrote: Lazslo, while the samples look great, is still based upon Flash player 5 (Beta 3 of Lazslo is player 6). It is one of those things where you have to wonder - how does Lazslo know what to extend of the Flash Player. The people that are contributing to it make guesses and try to extend the capabilities as far as they can, but they are still limited in their knowledge. I have never seen an API to the Flash player made readily available to the public. Also - as the Flash Player gets more complicated it will become more difficult to code hooks into the player to give developers the same functionality that is provided by Flex, and Breeze, and Flash
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Title: Message I tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight, clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it doesn't get turned off when there is no text. I think that it should. Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Gordon Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Is the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a label? - Gordon -Original Message-From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity Hi Flexers, I've just noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the blank label. Does anyone know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me? (How do I register bugs again?) Has anyone a work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying TextField? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Title: Message
Joan,
That
works like a dream!
Thank
you,
Simon
Fifield
-Original Message-From: Joan Tan
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:46To:
'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE: [flexcoders] CheckBox
oddity
You are right, this is a bug. I believe there is a
workaround, however. You can have
mx:CheckBox label="" /
instead of just mx:CheckBox
/
and you shouldn't have that
problem.
Thanks,
Joan
From: Simon Fifield
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005
3:27 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
I
tried putting just a single CheckBox on the UI with no label set. When you
move your mouse to the right of the CheckBox you can see it highlight,
clicking there checks/unchecks it. When you add some text to the label
property you can see that this area is indeed where the textlabel is - it
doesn't get turned off when there is no text.
I
think that it should.
Simon Fifield
-Original Message-From: Gordon Smith
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005
00:20To: 'flexcoders@yahoogroups.com'Subject: RE:
[flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Is
the problem that the CheckBox's width is too large when it doesn't have a
label?
-
Gordon
-Original Message-From: Simon
Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,
March 31, 2005 12:28 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ComSubject: [flexcoders] CheckBox oddity
Hi
Flexers,
I've just
noticed an oddity with the CheckBox and I don't know how I missed it
before. When there is no label, the mouse events still trigger over the
blank label.
Does anyone
know if this is a bug - it seems like one to me?
(How do I
register bugs again?)
Has anyone a
work around for this - perhaps some way of turning off the underlying
TextField?
Kind Regards,
Simon Fifield
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price
Hey Scott, I love the disclaimer at the bottom of your mossyblog.com site: We own this crap (Any hacking, copying, spaming, etc will result in headbutts) All trademarks property of their owners. blah blah.. . We also reserve the right to use poor spelling, terrible gramma and at times are not required to make sense. We are NOT Macromedia worshipers, we are infact Monkeys at a keyboard...OooO.OoO.oo Nice. Simon -Original Message-From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 01 April 2005 00:57To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 1.5 price I have been dealing with Macromedia/allaire since 1997. And I have never once seen a price decrease. and in all of that time I want to say the typical price increase has been about 100%. Or if not a price increase a drop off in what you are getting.. 4 CPus now is only 2. (CFMX) 2 Cpus is now only 1 (Flex).That goes with inflation, technology increases and what not. I'm yetto see any software really get lower in price with increase infeatures...its like crack, give it cheaply away for free early thenonce they are hooked, up the price heh...not saying i smoke crack -well it would explain a lot - just an analogy. Along time ago they decided to go with the strategy of Fewer customers paying higher bills. 200 new customers does not sound like a lot, which is why you have to charge a lot. it certainly is not on the install base of asp, .NET etc. Clearly they like FLEX becasue it is new and they can charge twice what they charge for CFMX.You *could* argue the whole Qty vs Quality, 200 customers @$12k(2xCPU) or 500 customers at 6k(2xCPU) - now you could say that 300customers could of bought them at 12k and so thats a loss in profits -but reality dictates that those 300 customers could bought into theproduct based on price. I'm also a little fuzzy as to the what ITManager in what Enterprise corporation looks at a product like FLEX,(even without knowing it) gives it a test run and simply turns to thepowers that be and go "yeah, i think its too cheap so i'm not going tobuy it now...if it were double the price, well then maybe ..) I knowi'm fueling an argument here but that is a consistent reply i seem toread where people go "Enterprise buy big, its too cheap etc"We bought the product without thinking of the price at all, it wasmore out of need / and how we could best use it and so thats why i'min different to the price uphike because i have a rich company to playin. Yet if the whole "its priced for enterprise" companies is justplain silly to me as a lot of IT Managers i know here in Australia insome pretty darn big corporations tend to think conservatively abouttheir spending. I know one company who refuses to buy FLEX becausethey see Macromedia as this company shouting from the roof tops "weare no longer web agency specific..hello..we are now enterprise..seeour products have the word enterprise in them now...carn gimme fiddy-kin products"hehe. that was his exact words btw. In 2 years it will be FLEX 40k, and you will have only a small base of people to hire, and if you want a FLEX developer plan on building a 6 month training process into the hire.Yes, I did a costings on MossyBlog when flex first came out read:http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/235.cfm - Flex The Hidden Costs.I as a personal developer hate the price tag as i want to use FLEX forone of my get rich quick apps floating around in my head hehehe. Yet,again as an employee for the company i work with and the buying powerwe have, its not a sore point - the future is and thats where i end upcaving in on price.Lazlo needs more work, compare as much as you want and strip it downto what it can offer today. Tommorow is another debate and it couldjust fade away (like many Open Source projects before it) - or itcould ramp up and be this dark horse. The point is, how much money andinvestment will it take to get Lazlo to the point at which you can useFlex now? what benefits is it bringing to the table? what is itsbackground? what's its community like? what's its capabilities interms of integration with your legacy systems or current technologyetc..I did this little audit a while back for here, and while $15k made myfirst tier give me this "eh, please explain" - he straight away sawwhy it was beneficial as all i had to go with was DHTML...15k to codeDHTML would be spent in the first 3 months alone in terms man power,testing and may i add a this point no actual worthwhile apps are made.I see Laszlo as the same in many ways. Its too immature and needs moretime in the oven.Flex is the sleeping giant.-- Regards,Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.comhttp://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go
RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
Do you have upgrade prices for Flex 1.5 Users? -Original Message-From: Lucian Beebe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 30 March 2005 23:51To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 priceThere has been a lot of speculation about price changes for Flex. Let's setthe record straight. As of April 1, we are adjusting the price of Flex.There are now three different packages for Flex going forward. For mostpeople, the starter kit will provide everything you need for your Flexapplications: 4 CPUs and Gold Support for $29,000. That's actually cheaperthan Flex was in the past for 4 CPUs + Gold Support. For the larger Flexapplications out there, we will sell per CPU at $15,000 per CPU. Finally,for software vendors who want to embed Flex in their applications, we havespecial pricing built around your requirements and your market. However, andthis is important, where you see value in Flex, we are interested in workingwith you to design the right packaging for your needs. If you are interestedin using Flex on a real project, let us know so we can work with you andfind the right packaging/pricing to fit your needs. In response to some of your comments, over time, we are very interested inoffering additional licensing options to broaden the range of projects anddevelopers who can leverage Flex technology. We follow the market veryclosely, and pay great attention to your constructive feedback. We all havea stake in the success of this marketplace.Why are we changing the price of Flex?We have been building, selling, and supporting Flex for a year now. Themarketplace for rich Internet applications is really taking off. Hundreds ofapplications are being delivered all over the world, and the generalinterest level is really growing out there. Within this overall marketplace, there are a variety of customer segmentsand project types with varying requirements. Large enterprise customers andsystems integration partners require substantial pre-sales engagement andongoing assistance from Macromedia commensurate with the value that theyintend to derive from the software. Small and medium size customers andindividual developers require low up front costs to get started fast andoperate within very limited IT budgets.It is important to have great offerings for each type of user. There is no"one size fits all" approach that both makes everyone successful and issustainable over the long term. A stratified approach makes the most sense,and that's what we're gradually implementing. We've adjusted our coreproduct pricing to better reflect both the value derived and the costsinvolved in driving successful projects within large enterprise customers.We've also created a starter package that combines deeply discounted Flexlicenses with high quality support designed to address the needs of largecustomers doing pilot projects or medium size customers doing fulldeployments. Please talk to us if you have special needs. We will continue to workdirectly with enterprise customers doing larger deployments or who desireEnterprise Licensing Agreements. We also have specialized offerings for ISVsdelivering packaged software solutions based on Flex. If you have a projectspecifically suited to Flex but need different packaging, please contactyour Macromedia sales rep to discuss your project and the pricing optionsthat meet your needs. If you see real value in Flex, there is probably away to make it work.Lucian BeebeFlex product managerMacromedia Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] super.super?
I have extended the DateChooser component to allow user to click throughYears and Months rather than just Months. I have overridden the createChildren() method. DateChooser calls super.createChildren(). If I call super.createChildren() in my subclass at the end of my method it redefines the objects that I have overridden, if I call it at the beginning of my method before I create the objects, it does most of the work twice. It works if I don't callsuper.createChildren() at all, but there are side effects that I have to fix after anyway. If the superClass creates and lays-out objects that I do not want in my subClass I would like to be able to call the superClass' super methods to by-pass the instantiation and layout of the objects that I don't want. But I presume its not possible? -Original Message-From: Chris Velevitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 30 March 2005 03:15To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] super.super?If you are in a method of say class C which extends class B, thencalling super.someMethodName works. If class B extends class A and Bdoesn't redefine a method of A, say, called methodOfA, then in class Cyou can call super.methodOfA. This is because, through inheritance,all unredefined methods of A are automatically available to B. Superonly works one level up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] DateChooser component
Just in case any MM component guys are reading. The DateChooser sets the dateDisplay (header date text) with the same command:dateDisplay.text = monthNames[m]+" "+displayedYear; in nearly all of the setters. It would have been easier to override this if a method had been used to set this, then we wouldn't have to override all of the setters as well. I've now done this in my extended DateChooser/DateField so that I can step through the years as well as the months. Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] prevent Double click
hi Devis, Ihighly recommend using Cairngorm framework for your apps. My Apps were like spaghetti junction (that means complicated) before I started using Cairngorm. I just wished they had used a different name for it because A) its long, and B) It makes mewish I was walking up in the mountains instead of sitting in front of a computer all day long! Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 30 March 2005 09:44To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] prevent Double clickSorry we don't use Cairngorm, but i'm looking ViewHelper for understand the mechanism,thanks you vey muchDevisLaurent Cornelis ha scritto:If you use Cairngorm, use a ViewHelper to change the button state. This way you can change the state from anywhere.Regards,Laurent Cornélis[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : thanks Gordon, but i'm using our framework for receive data (ServiceLocator etc)and our function are called in other piece of code in our project, and the id or name of button are not the same, and i think to put in our delgate all id button it's not a good idea, (in our case)DevisGordon Smith ha scritto: Disable the button in your click handler when you call your RemoteObjectmethod. Re-enable it when your result handler is called.- Gordon-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:53 PMTo: Flex CodersSubject: [flexcoders] prevent Double clickHi,have some suggestion from prevent double click on the button? for example my button throw some functions on back-end,i wish to disable button until the function are end.It's possible?DevisYahoo! Groups LinksYahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] LabelFunctions and SortFunctions
At the moment a labelFunction or sortFunction has to be defined in the MXML file that it is being used in. It would be nice to be able to use an external Classto achieve this and thus enhance codeclarity andre-use. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] LabelFunctions and SortFunctions
Hi Dirk, Thanks for the suggestion, I hadn't thought of that, but it didn't work when I tried it. So I tried just dg.getColumnAt( 0 ).labelFunction = dgVH.labelFunc; and this did work. Its a big improvement over wrapping external class functions with a function! But what I was originally trying to do was set the labelfunction in the MXML which was giving the error I described. I also tried your suggestion here, but this didn't work either. Thanks for your pointer, Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Dirk Eismann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 30 March 2005 15:05To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] LabelFunctions and SortFunctionsHave you tried using the mx.utils.Delegate class? myGrid.getColumnAt(0).labelFunction = mx.utils.Delegate.create(anotherClassInstance, anotherFunction);haven't tested it, but it should work.Dirk.-Original Message-From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:03 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] LabelFunctions and SortFunctionsAt the moment a labelFunction or sortFunction has to be defined in the MXML file that it is being used in.It would be nice to be able to use an external Class to achieve this and thus enhance code clarity and re-use.Does anyone have any ideas on this?Kind Regards,Simon FifieldYahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENTYahoo! Groups LinksTo visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] super.super?
Hi Flexcoders, Is it possible to make a call like:super.super.layoutChildren(); The compiler says "There is no such method with the name 'super'." Is there another way around? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] ComboBox __dropdown.bug97664?
I'm curious about the __dropdown.bug97664 in the ComboBox component. Anyone have any idea what that's all about? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] RowRenderer for Custom List
Hi,
I'm trying to extend
the List class and the default SelectableRow rowRenderer. I have successfully
extended the List class but cannot get it to use my
RowRenderer.
It works if I use
the rowRenderer property in MXML (with the full class path -
com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow)but I want it to use my rowRenderer by
default - therefore I need to get the extended List to instantiate my
rowRenderer rather than the SelectableRow.
I've tried just
overriding:__rowRenderer : String= "SelectableRow";
and changing it
to:__rowRenderer : String= "ListMenuRow";
and
also:
__rowRenderer : String= "ListMenuRow";
Trying something
else.
I just tried copying the
complete code for the ScrollSelectList into my extended List and changing the
Class name etc, and set the __rowRenderer string to the class name of my new
Rowrendere and that worked...so I can conclude that there is something wrong
with my extension of the List.
Here's the
code:import mx.controls.List;import com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow;class com.mango.controls.ListMenu2 extends List {var __rowRenderer : String = "com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow";//Component Classstatic var symbolName : String = "ListMenu2";static var symbolOwner : Object = ListMenu2;var className : String = "ListMenu2";// Class Constructorfunction ListMenu() {}// MXML Component Constructorfunction constructObject2(o:Object) : Void{super.constructObject2(o);}// Component Initialiserfunction init() : Void{super.init();}function createChildren():Void {super.createChildren();}// all the below catch mouse events from the rowsfunction onRowPress(rowIndex : Number) : Void{if ( rows[rowIndex].item.separator != "true" ) {super.onRowPress(rowIndex);}}function onRowRollOver(rowIndex : Number) : Void{if ( rows[rowIndex].item.separator != "true" ) {super.onRowRollOver(rowIndex);}}function onRowDragOver(rowIndex : Number) : Void{if ( rows[rowIndex].item.separator != "true" ) {super.onRowDragOver(rowIndex);}}}
Can anyone see what
is wrong with thismy eyes are getting blurry!
Kind Regards,
Simon Fifield
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RE: [flexcoders] RowRenderer for Custom List
Thanks
Matt,
I've
just been trawling through the thousands of Flexcoders posts and found a reply
you sent to someone explaining how you can use FDB to view the code because it
is probably different to the classes found in FlexForFash
resources.
A
little dissappointing that these classes are not the final classes used for
Flex1.5. I've literally taken days to try and figure out what I'm doing wrong
and the source code I'm looking at is not the correct source code at all -
FRUSTRATION!!!
Anyway, I've literally just this minute copied the code from FDB into
FlexBuilder and seen that there is indeed at the bottom of ScrollSelectList a
method called classConstruct() which specifically refers to the SelectableRow
class.
I'll
bear in mind next time not to bother looking at the code in FlexForFlash as it
seems unreliable - or am I missing the point of why it's there in the first
place?
Anyway, thanks again for the tip.
And by
the way - I admire just how sharp your skills are - keep up the good
work.
Regards,
Simon
-Original Message-From: Matt Chotin
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 26 March 2005
19:49To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[flexcoders] RowRenderer for Custom List
In init() you can do
rowRenderer = com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow (no
quotes).
rowRenderer takes
either a String or a Class, so pass the class in init() and I think youll be
fine.
Matt
From: Simon
Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 3:06
AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] RowRenderer for
Custom List
Hi,
I'm trying to extend the List
class and the default SelectableRow rowRenderer. I have successfully extended
the List class but cannot get it to use my
RowRenderer.
It works if I use the rowRenderer
property in MXML (with the full class path -
com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow)but I want it to use my rowRenderer by
default - therefore I need to get the extended List to instantiate my
rowRenderer rather than the SelectableRow.
I've tried just
overriding:__rowRenderer : String= "SelectableRow";
and changing it
to:__rowRenderer : String= "ListMenuRow";
and
also:
__rowRenderer : String= "ListMenuRow";
Trying something
else.
I just tried copying the complete
code for the ScrollSelectList into my extended List and changing the Class
name etc, and set the __rowRenderer string to the class name of my new
Rowrendere and that worked...so I can conclude that there is something wrong
with my extension of the List.
Here's the
code:import mx.controls.List;
import com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow;class com.mango.controls.ListMenu2 extends List {var __rowRenderer : String = "com.mango.controls.ListMenuRow";
//Component Class
static var symbolName : String = "ListMenu2";
static var symbolOwner : Object = ListMenu2;
var className : String = "ListMenu2";
// Class Constructor
function ListMenu() {
}// MXML Component Constructor
function constructObject2(o:Object) : Void
{
super.constructObject2(o);
}// Component Initialiser
function init() : Void
{
super.init();
}function createChildren():Void {
super.createChildren();
}// all the below catch mouse events from the rows
function onRowPress(rowIndex : Number) : Void
{
if ( rows[rowIndex].item.separator != "true" ) {
super.onRowPress(rowIndex);
}
}
function onRowRollOver(rowIndex : Number) : Void
{
if ( rows[rowIndex].item.separator != "true" ) {
super.onRowRollOver(rowIndex);
}
}
function onRowDragOver(rowIndex : Number) : Void
{
if ( rows[rowIndex].item.separator != "true" ) {
super.onRowDragOver(rowIndex);
}
}
}
Can anyone see what is wrong with
thismy eyes are getting blurry!
Kind
Regards,
Simon
Fifield
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price
I heard that Macromedia decided that they wee going to move Flex over to Apache to be released as an Open Source Project. ;-) -Original Message- From: Jeff Steiner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 March 2005 17:21 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price I heard months ago that the price was going to change on April 1st. I still don't know if it will go up or down - as I have heard both from different sources. I would also guess that if the price goes up that sometime soon MM will introduce a scaled down version of Flex server to serve companies that do not have the money to spend on Flex Server now. Just my .02 Jeff http://www.flexauthority.com - Original Message - From: Dennis Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Sounds like laszlo time :) -Original Message- From: Matthew Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:32:45 To:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price Our shop cannot hardly pull the current price... If it goes up I don't know what it will mean for us, but I doubt its good. We're in love with flex, but we may have to give it up if they raise the price on it like that. -- Matthew On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:25:38 +0200, Robert Stuttaford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ohh lord it's that time again I started freelancing on April 1 2004 my boss thought I was trying to pull his leg! I guess that means it's champagne time for me soon From: ?? [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 March 2005 01:54 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price I heard bad news today. Macromedia will change Flex 1.5 price $12,000(2cpu) to $20,000(1cpu). This price will be started at april 1, 2005. Is it true? yang lim. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links Sent via BlackBerry - a service from ATT Wireless. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Custom Control Components
Is it just me, or are custom control (actionscript) components really really difficult to get your head around? I am struggling with just about every aspect of creating custom controls, from deciding what to extend, through sizing/layout,right down to event handling. I have created some custom controls but they have never turned out to be what I really wanted. There is a real lack of documentation about this subject. I've read the Flex Components PDF, andI've read the relevant parts of Developing Flex Apps, but none of these really covers creating components in actionscript from scratch through to more advanced components at reasonable steps. Some of the more basic examples that are given require you to draw a circle in Flash first - I don't want to (and I know I shouldn't) have to use Flash to create a basic custom component. I would like a more in-depth discussion of what the various sizes are - _measuredXXX, preferredXXX, defaultXXXproperties etc A clearer explanation of the instantiation and display order/process. Perhaps a breakdown of some existing components that have both been built from scratch and has extended other components. Anyoneelsefindingthistopichard going like me? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Custom Control Components
Manish posted a good article from the Macromedia Devnet Flex site: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/creating_comp.html I have yet to go through the article in detail and try it out with my own home-brewed component. From a quick scan it looks quite in depth, but simple. I'll let you know how I get on. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Erik Westra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 24 March 2005 14:45To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Custom Control Components I feel u there, I myself want to create components that are fully functional, skinnable and fit right into the V2 architecture. I havent been able to put my head around it yet. I think i found the the same PDF u are talking about (Developing Flex Components and Themes in Flash Authoring) wich i hope gives enough detail. A problem in this matter is that the flow of components (UIObject and UIComponent with their helper classes) is very complex and not easy to understand. And besides that, i couldnt find a document that describes the flow very good (it may be in the PDF though). I understand that this is a complex problem for macromedia as well, as they are familiar with this architecture. Maybe we could provide them with a list of questions regarding the building of components. Questions like: - How can i makea custom component skinnable? -- And how does the skinning of components work internally? - Say i want to build a 'wizard' (next, previous) component, how would u do it? - I want to make a component with buttons from wich the states are dynamicly loaded images combined with a label. The placement of the label is dependend of the available size of the component. In wich 'hook' would i place the check function. And how would i build a button component with different states? As u can see these are more practical based questions of problems i ran into. Im guessing that more of us developers are having these kind of questions. Greetz Erik From: Simon Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 24 maart 2005 14:59To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ComSubject: [flexcoders] Custom Control Components Is it just me, or are custom control (actionscript) components really really difficult to get your head around? I am struggling with just about every aspect of creating custom controls, from deciding what to extend, through sizing/layout,right down to event handling. I have created some custom controls but they have never turned out to be what I really wanted. There is a real lack of documentation about this subject. I've read the Flex Components PDF, andI've read the relevant parts of Developing Flex Apps, but none of these really covers creating components in actionscript from scratch through to more advanced components at reasonable steps. Some of the more basic examples that are given require you to draw a circle in Flash first - I don't want to (and I know I shouldn't) have to use Flash to create a basic custom component. I would like a more in-depth discussion of what the various sizes are - _measuredXXX, preferredXXX, defaultXXXproperties etc A clearer explanation of the instantiation and display order/process. Perhaps a breakdown of some existing components that have both been built from scratch and has extended other components. Anyoneelsefindingthistopichard going like me? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Cairngorm for a newbie :)
Hi Scott, I think that your understanding of the framework is pretty much correct. The way I look at ViewHelpers is that if you need to make any changes to the bit that the visual part of the App - the View then the code for this should goonly in that Views ViewHelper. For example the user ticks a tick box and the change event for the tick box calls a method in the ViewHelper of a StatusView Component. The method changes some Text of the StatusView to reflect the new status. So the codeis always in a logical placerather than bitsof view control code being distributed all over. Before adopting the Cairngorm Framework I found it hard going. The most difficult part of Flex without the Cairngorm (or similar) framework is locatingObjects/Componentsfrom another Object/Component and standardizing this method. In fact I've taken the whole ethos of these Framework "Patterns" on board, and added a few extras.After looking at the ViewLocator pattern I added a ValueObjectLocator that allowed me to easily access the Apps Data Models from whatever Component or ViewHelper I happen to be in. The cairngorm framework has vastly expanded my understanding of Object Oriented programming and at the same time made my Flex Apps much more understandableand maintainable. I greatly thank Steven Webster and the Cairngorm team for their efforts. Regards, Simon Fifield -Original Message-From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 17 March 2005 02:36To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Cairngorm for a newbie :)I'm currently getting ready to begin a long journey in FLEXdevelopment for a bunch of systems here at work.I've been reading up as much as i can on cairngorm and trying tofigure out its value in FLEX and whether I should adopt it or ploughon without it.So far I've watched Robin Hilliards Breeze preso, sampled some examplecairngorm applications from both I2 guys and Robin.I've outlined some summary notes below, and would absolutely love itif someone here could correct them or expand on them to enableme tounderstand the cairngorm luv :)Heres what I've gathered so far:- formalised approach to command subscriptions, in that a controlleris established which registers itself against commands for both Viewsand Models - but in a relatively simplified syntax (ie addCommand)- Seperating ViewPods from logic via "ViewHelpers". It appears thatthe framework allows a developer to add "behaviours" or "logic" to aview but in a way that its not coupled with that said view (ie iassume you could add a ViewHelper to other ViewPods? - yet all feedoff the one instance/codebase).- Templated Command Objects : it seems to me that the whole Commandconcept has established a base template to work from, so thatonResult, onFault and execute are automatically invoked per command? -then the developer can just fill in the blanks based on the eventtype?- ViewLocator - kind of reminds me of DHTML'sdocument.getElementById() in that it appears each ViewHelper registersitself within cairngorm and the ViewLocator simply provides a dynamicbridge between the actual view and the object requesting its location?or something like that?Thats my note so far, and again I do apologise if its inaccurate inanyway but i'm trying to wrap my headspace into how it implements MVCand why its used.If this is Offtopic I do apologise but *poke* *prod* a "GettingStarted Guide" would of been great ;) heheheheh-- Regards,Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com
DateField - setting selectedDate when enable=false
Trying toset selectedDate on the DateField component whenenabled = false does not set or display the date given to it. Is this abug or a feature? Personally, I think that it should be possible to set it programmatically when enabled = false but user interaction is disabled. Does this make sense or am I missing something here? It seems to me that the DateField and DateChooser really need a major overhaul! Kind Regards, Simon Fifield
RE: [flexcoders] flexcoders is one year old~
1237 Simon -Original Message-From: David Mendels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 16 March 2005 17:14To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] flexcoders is one year old~Hi,Anyone know how many members thislist has now?-David -Original Message- From: choipeter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:17 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] flexcoders is one year old~ Anyone realize that today is the one year-old birthday of this group? Best wishes to all flex coders! Yahoo! Groups Links
DatagridColumn Sort function
I set up a DataGridColumn sort function but the sort only happens every otherheader clickeven though the sort arrow changes direction on every click. Anyone got any ideas??? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield
FlashPaper for developers?
Does anyone know if it's possible to get a developer (i.e. no cost) version of FlashPaper? Kind Regards, Simon Fifield
RE: [flexcoders] List.getLength
Title: Message Hi Markus, I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think that all list based componentsimplement the new DataSelector class. Regards, Simon -Original Message-From: Markus Ansamaa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 18 February 2005 13:38To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] List.getLength I have wondered why there isn't a getLength method for a List. I have used List.dataProvider.length which feels clumsy to use. Today I just happenedto try if such a method exists and there it was! I think most of you alreadyknew that, but to me it was a totally new discovery. List seems to use DataSelector internally, which is the reason why getLength is not mentioned in the API. Iam just wondering, how should I know that List uses DataSelector and getLength methodexists?! List's API says nothing about getLength or DataSelector. And howmany other "hidden" interfaces there are? Markus Ansamaa
