Re: [Flightgear-devel] new multiplayer patch

2005-09-20 Thread Oliver Schroeder

Hi Erik,

Erik Hofman wrote:

Secondly I've updated the code to use the ulEndianSwap() function 
instead of defining our own (my system doesn't even define byteswap.h).




There's something really odd with byteswapping. Using your modified 
version does not work. Using my own byteswap functions does not work. 
Using byteswap.h (ie. remove both bswap-functions and #include 
byteswap.h instead) does work.
So far I did not find out what it is. I guess it is some compiler side 
(implicit) type conversion or something. Or I do something really stupid.


regards,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] new multiplayer patch

2005-09-20 Thread Erik Hofman

Oliver Schroeder wrote:

There's something really odd with byteswapping. Using your modified 
version does not work. Using my own byteswap functions does not work. 
Using byteswap.h (ie. remove both bswap-functions and #include 
byteswap.h instead) does work.
So far I did not find out what it is. I guess it is some compiler side 
(implicit) type conversion or something. Or I do something really stupid.


I've added a byte swap test utility in the MultiPlayer directory so you 
can easily test if it really makes a difference. On my machine all 
(should) work(s) fine.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Diamond Katana model

2005-09-20 Thread mat churchill
Is there anything relating to usage ?

The DA42 is definitely the plane I would like to see in FG, as it is
definitely the plane I would like to fly one day.

Mat

Martin Spott wrote:

Torsten Dreyer wrote:

  

There was a project from diamond aircraft and microsoft about building a 
model 
for the Twin Star.


[...]
  

http://www.microsoft.com/austria/education/projekte.mspx



I had a closer look at the websites and at the files and I dind't find
a single notice that prohibits use in conjunction with other flight
simulation. In my interpretation this allows everyone to get these
aircraft models and convert them for reuse in FlightGear.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Diamond Katana model

2005-09-20 Thread Martin Spott
mat churchill wrote:

 The DA42 is definitely the plane I would like to see in FG, as it is
 definitely the plane I would like to fly one day.

Oh yes. Since I recieved my license paper last month I've flown more
than 5 hours single-handed on a C172 with Thielert engine (I already
did som hours during PPL training). I really call this a convenient
handling !

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[Flightgear-devel] configure error

2005-09-20 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I just checked our the latest flightgear source and after running autogen.sh tried to run configure but got the following error:configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] new multiplayer patch

2005-09-20 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 10:36, Erik Hofman wrote:
 I've added a byte swap test utility in the MultiPlayer directory so you
 can easily test if it really makes a difference. On my machine all
 (should) work(s) fine.

Are you sure?  It doesn't here since yesterday (Linux x86. ) FG runs OK, and 
connects to the server, but the position values are all messed up.

The byte swap test utility you added today gives this;

UI32: (normal) ffaaccee
UI32: (swapped) eeccaaff

UI64: (normal) bbaaddffaaccee
UI64: (swapped) eeccaaffddaabb00

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] configure error

2005-09-20 Thread Erik Hofman

Arthur Wiebe wrote:
I just checked our the latest flightgear source and after running 
autogen.sh tried to run configure but got the following error:

configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub


Is this file present?
If not you need to run autogen.sh

If so, you should make sure it's marked executable:
chmod +x config.sub

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] new multiplayer patch

2005-09-20 Thread Erik Hofman

AJ MacLeod wrote:


The byte swap test utility you added today gives this;

UI32: (normal) ffaaccee
UI32: (swapped) eeccaaff

UI64: (normal) bbaaddffaaccee
UI64: (swapped) eeccaaffddaabb00


Hmm, that should be correct.
What does the utility output if you include byteswap.h instead off our 
own functions?


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] configure error

2005-09-20 Thread Arthur Wiebe
The file is not present and like I said before I did run autogen.sh.Using autoconf 2.59.I'll try a fresh copy of the source and see what happens.On 9/20/05, 
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arthur Wiebe wrote: I just checked our the latest flightgear source and after running autogen.sh tried to run configure but got the following error: configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] new multiplayer patch

2005-09-20 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Tuesday 20 September 2005 14:57, Erik Hofman wrote:
 Hmm, that should be correct.
 What does the utility output if you include byteswap.h instead off our
 own functions?

Swapping #include byteswap.h instead of tiny_xdr.hpp I get exactly the 
same result here..

AJ

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] configure error

2005-09-20 Thread Arthur Wiebe
With fresh copy is still is a nogo.In case it helps here's the output of autogen.sh:Host info: Darwin Power Macintoshautomake: 1.6.3 (16)Running aclocalRunning autoheaderRunning automake --add-missing
configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'configure.ac: installing `./mkinstalldirs'configure.ac: installing `./missing'
Makefile.am: installing `./INSTALL'Makefile.am: installing `./COPYING'src/AIModel/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'Running autoconf
Does not look like anything is wrong. I can't figure it out because I've never had problems like this before.On 9/20/05, Arthur Wiebe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The file is not present and like I said before I did run 
autogen.sh.Using autoconf 2.59.I'll try a fresh copy of the source and see what happens.On 9/20/05, 

Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arthur Wiebe wrote: I just checked our the latest flightgear source and after running autogen.sh tried to run configure but got the following error: configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
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[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear icon

2005-09-20 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I am working on a new mac flightgear binary because of all the problems people have with the current release and want to use a better icon this time.Is there any official logo or something I should base it off?
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] configure error

2005-09-20 Thread Adam Dershowitz
This is a known problem with building FlightGear on a Mac.  For some  
reason autogen for FG does not copy them, while it works fine for  
SimGear.  I have not been able to figure out why it happens, or what  
is different about FG and SG, but I wrote some Mac build instructions  
that have a work around.  Here is the relevant part:


* Build FlightGear

 cd $BUILDDIR/src/source
 ./autogen.sh
Automake should do the next two steps, but for some reason does not  
for FlightGear

(but it does for SimGear, which is odd)
 ln -s /usr/share/automake-1.6/config.guess config.guess
 ln -s /usr/share/automake-1.6/config.sub config.sub
 ./configure --prefix=$BUILDDIR --without-x
 make

Does anyone know if my Mac build instructions were ever included in  
any documentation anywhere?  Best I can tell, the only Mac build  
instructions are very old, out of date, and don't work at all.   
Instead they just lead newbies off in a completely wrong direction.



--Adam


On Sep 20, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Arthur Wiebe wrote:


With fresh copy is still is a nogo.

In case it helps here's the output of autogen.sh:

Host info: Darwin Power Macintosh
 automake: 1.6.3 (16)

Running aclocal
Running autoheader
Running automake --add-missing
configure.ac http://configure.ac : installing `./install-sh'
configure.ac http://configure.ac : installing `./mkinstalldirs'
configure.ac http://configure.ac : installing `./missing'
Makefile.am http://Makefile.am : installing `./INSTALL'
Makefile.am http://Makefile.am : installing `./COPYING'
src/AIModel/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
Running autoconf

Does not look like anything is wrong. I can't figure it out because  
I've

never had problems like this before.


On 9/20/05, Arthur Wiebe  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The file is not present and like I said before I did run autogen.sh.
Using autoconf 2.59.

I'll try a fresh copy of the source and see what happens.



On 9/20/05, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Arthur Wiebe wrote:


I just checked our the latest flightgear source and after running
autogen.sh tried to run configure but got the following error:
configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub



Is this file present?
If not you need to run autogen.sh

If so, you should make sure it's marked executable:
chmod +x config.sub

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear icon

2005-09-20 Thread Frederic Bouvier

Arthur Wiebe a écrit :

I am working on a new mac flightgear binary because of all the 
problems people have with the current release and want to use a better 
icon this time.


Is there any official logo or something I should base it off?



There is no official logo that fit in the 32x32 area imposed by Windows, 
but I like the one provided by Josh and grabbed it for the Win32 build


http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/scripts/flightgear.gif

It is a 16x16 so I resize it ( Josh, if you have a better 32x32 version, I 
would be glad to use it instead ).

There is a nice 48x48 here : 
ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/fgfs-jims-icon.bmp, but unusable 
after downsizing.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear icon

2005-09-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Frederic Bouvier wrote:
 Arthur Wiebe a écrit :
 
 I am working on a new mac flightgear binary because of all the
 problems people have with the current release and want to use a better
 icon this time.

 Is there any official logo or something I should base it off?
 
 
 
 There is no official logo that fit in the 32x32 area imposed by Windows,
 but I like the one provided by Josh and grabbed it for the Win32 build
 
 http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/scripts/flightgear.gif
 
 It is a 16x16 so I resize it ( Josh, if you have a better 32x32 version,
 I would be glad to use it instead ).
 
 There is a nice 48x48 here :
 ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/fgfs-jims-icon.bmp, but
 unusable after downsizing.
 
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As soon as I have a free moment, I will re-make this at 32x32. It was a
simple process, and I still remember it. What sizes do various Linux
desktop systems use? I think they tend to be bigger icons. I don't know,
I use X, but only as a place to open my aterm window :) While I'm at it
I could make some of them as well, and we could throw them all in the
base package.

Josh



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[Flightgear-devel] Nasal on Mac/Sparc/Irix fixed. Maybe.

2005-09-20 Thread Andy Ross
Erik pinged me on the Nasal endianness bug, which I *think* has been
fixed.  It no longer occurs with the Mac test code I have, but I
didn't find a smoking gun and can't run FlightGear on that mac (shell
access only).

Anyway, please update both (!) SimGear and FlightGear CVS sources and
let me know if I broke anything.

Ampere: there is one incompatible change here.  The strc() function
has been removed in favor of the array syntax for addressing bytes
out of a string.  The A380 scripts are the only code that uses it, so
I didn't bother including a compatibility version.  Basically, where
you used to write strc(s, 10), you can just do s[10] now.  If you
need something to limp along until you can update the code, we can use
something like this in globals.nas:

strc = func(s, n) { s[n] }

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] configure error

2005-09-20 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Hi Adam.I knew of that method of fixing this problem but just didn't think of it for some odd reason. Things are sure odd these days. :)Thanks for the tip.The strage thing though is that it always worked before for me even with fgfs source.
By the way there are some build instructions which are located at:http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=26350group_id=126825
It's part of the documentation linked to from http://macflightgear.sourceforge.netIt probably needs to be updated or improved in some areas. If you are so inclined you could join the macflightgear project and help out. Contact me about that.
Thanks.On 9/20/05, Adam Dershowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a known problem with building FlightGear on a Mac.For somereason autogen for FG does not copy them, while it works fine forSimGear.I have not been able to figure out why it happens, or whatis different about FG and SG, but I wrote some Mac build instructions
that have a work around.Here is the relevant part:* Build FlightGear  cd $BUILDDIR/src/source  ./autogen.shAutomake should do the next two steps, but for some reason does notfor FlightGear
(but it does for SimGear, which is odd)  ln -s /usr/share/automake-1.6/config.guess config.guess  ln -s /usr/share/automake-1.6/config.sub config.sub  ./configure --prefix=$BUILDDIR --without-x
  makeDoes anyone know if my Mac build instructions were ever included inany documentation anywhere?Best I can tell, the only Mac buildinstructions are very old, out of date, and don't work at all.
Instead they just lead newbies off in a completely wrong direction.--AdamOn Sep 20, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Arthur Wiebe wrote: With fresh copy is still is a nogo. In case it helps here's the output of 
autogen.sh: Host info: Darwin Power Macintoshautomake: 1.6.3 (16) Running aclocal Running autoheader Running automake --add-missing 
configure.ac http://configure.ac : installing `./install-sh' configure.ac http://configure.ac : installing `./mkinstalldirs'
 configure.ac http://configure.ac : installing `./missing' Makefile.am 
http://Makefile.am : installing `./INSTALL' Makefile.am http://Makefile.am : installing `./COPYING' src/AIModel/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
 Running autoconf Does not look like anything is wrong. I can't figure it out because I've never had problems like this before. On 9/20/05, Arthur Wiebe  mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The file is not present and like I said before I did run autogen.sh.
 Using autoconf 2.59. I'll try a fresh copy of the source and see what happens. On 9/20/05, Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear icon

2005-09-20 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Sounds alright.I need a 128x128 for MacOSX and so will probably create one based off of your images.On 9/20/05, Josh Babcock 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Frederic Bouvier wrote: Arthur Wiebe a écrit :
 I am working on a new mac flightgear binary because of all the problems people have with the current release and want to use a better icon this time. Is there any official logo or something I should base it off?
 There is no official logo that fit in the 32x32 area imposed by Windows, but I like the one provided by Josh and grabbed it for the Win32 build 
http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/scripts/flightgear.gif It is a 16x16 so I resize it ( Josh, if you have a better 32x32 version, I would be glad to use it instead ). There is a nice 48x48 here :
 ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/fgfs-jims-icon.bmp, but unusable after downsizing. -Fred
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear icon

2005-09-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Arthur Wiebe wrote:
 Sounds alright.
 
 I need a 128x128 for MacOSX and so will probably create one based off of
 your images.
 
 Frederic Bouvier wrote:
  Arthur Wiebe a écrit :
 
 
  There is a nice 48x48 here :
  ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/fgfs-jims-icon.bmp, but
  unusable after downsizing.
 
  -Fred
 
I will go ahead and do a 32, 48, 64 and 128 px version of mine, though I
have to say that the 48 px one looks great. Maybe it would be a better
choice for the larger ones. Of course, there's nothing stopping us from
including multiple options for icons.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear icon

2005-09-20 Thread Josh Babcock
Josh Babcock wrote:

 I will go ahead and do a 32, 48, 64 and 128 px version of mine, though I
 have to say that the 48 px one looks great. Maybe it would be a better
 choice for the larger ones. Of course, there's nothing stopping us from
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Ta-Da!

http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/icons/index.html

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[Flightgear-devel] Rita

2005-09-20 Thread Jon Berndt
I'll likely be relatively sparse on the Internet for the next week or so - 
perhaps much,
much longer depending on how things go in League City, due to Rita. I'm about 
14 feet
above sea level, about a mile inland from Galveston Bay.

Anyone else look like they're going to be affected by this?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Nasal on Mac/Sparc/Irix fixed. Maybe.

2005-09-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On September 20, 2005 05:15 pm, Andy Ross wrote:
 Ampere: there is one incompatible change here.  The strc() function
 has been removed in favor of the array syntax for addressing bytes
 out of a string.  The A380 scripts are the only code that uses it, so
 I didn't bother including a compatibility version.  Basically, where
 you used to write strc(s, 10), you can just do s[10] now.  If you
 need something to limp along until you can update the code, we can use
 something like this in globals.nas:

     strc = func(s, n) { s[n] }

 Andy

I am not too excited about going through 3000 lines of code to replace the 
strc() function at the moment, although I will look into it.

Thanks for the head's up.

Ampere

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