Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear
Jason, It appears that because we would have to pass the license information on with your "derivative product" that scenery you create using the maps can't be used in the official FlightGear database. You could theoretically create it and distribute it yourself, but that's not the best option. If you want to improve Sydney AND improve the FlightGear scenery, I would recommend downloading Landsat imagery and creating a custom shapefile. This doesn't fix elevation, but I don't know much about editing elevation data. Also, don't edit the existing vmap0 data - this can lead to problems - so create a new shapefile from scratch if you decide to try this approach and we can merge it in, Cheers, John -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear,
Martin,
no sure if this license will be an issue but this is the free 250K
topo's from ga.gov.au
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear,
Jason Cox wrote: > I used FGSD to move VMAP to what I had from a digitised map and I wrote > a little script to pull the topo contours and change the elevations from > a mapinfo file (plain text database). > I guess now that I can do the land cover directly from my shapefiles all > I need is to modify the elevations based on the shapefile topo data. Yup, editing land cover shapefiles should be pretty straightforward - at least several people are doing this, using QGIS, OpenJUMP or GRASS. BTW, if the copyright of the map permits public dustribution of the digitized data (I know, most maps don't), we'd be happy to include this into our world coverage. Look here for one sample of digitized, well, satellite imagery we're including into FlightGear's World Scenery: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=-156.34932&lat=20.76679&zoom=11&layers=B00TTFFF or this one, just finished (thanks to John Holden and Chris Schmitt): http://mapserver.flightgear.org/map/?lon=-73.37928&lat=40.77091&zoom=10&layers=B00TTFFF Editing elevation is much more difficult. In theory, you could edit the SRTM raster input and hope that TerraGear will leave the most prominent edits in place. The implementation of a TerraGear feature to override the elevation raster from a set of elevation contour lines in a certain area is still awaiting to happen. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ;5B -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear,
both. I used FGSD to move VMAP to what I had from a digitised map and I wrote a little script to pull the topo contours and change the elevations from a mapinfo file (plain text database). I guess now that I can do the land cover directly from my shapefiles all I need is to modify the elevations based on the shapefile topo data. Jason On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 20:42 +, Martin Spott wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Jason Cox wrote: > > > So what tools are availble now for scenery modification? > > Would you like to edit the land cover polygon or the elevation data ? > > Martin. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear,
Hi Jason, Jason Cox wrote: > So what tools are availble now for scenery modification? Would you like to edit the land cover polygon or the elevation data ? Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
I would love to see that as well. problem I have is that i used to use Fred's FGSD but it no longer works on my gentoo 64 box and looks like development stopped a few years ago. So what tools are availble now for scenery modification? Jason On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 22:25 +1100, Scott Hamilton wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 19:48 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > Hi ya Jason, > > > I'd be very keen to see someone do Sydney, I think a lot of the > terrain is a bit sharp, there is a > weird 200ft ravine through the CBD that would make it difficult > to place buildings on... > > > S. > > > > Ok now I am lost. > > I just added another layer to the scenery and re-ran the script i use to > > build the scenery and it works. > > I now hve my high res coast and roads (just about to run residential > > level osm) :) > > > > Jason > > PS once done I will throw it up on my server > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:32 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > Ron, > > > I think that tile is actualy ocean. > > > I tried Scenery/Terrain/e150s40/e151s33/5426762.btg.gz and it show > > > Default and other layers. > > > > > > Is there a maximum number of elements to a file as this is some high > > > resolution stuff I am trying to build > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 23:10 +, Ron Jensen wrote: > > > > Jason, > > > > > > > > Newer versions of fgfs have a command line switch "--fgviewer" that will > > > > show a tile to you without need of starting all the flightgear systems. > > > > > > > > $fgfs --fgviewer YGDH.btg.gz > > > > > > > > What I am seeing is all your terrain is coming out flat and in sea/water > > > > texture. By zcatting one of you terrain files through strings: > > > > > > > > $zcat Scenery/Terrain/e150s30/e150s30/5410562.btg.gz | strings > > > > > > > > The only texture listed is ocean. > > > > > > > > Your missing something with the terragear build chain. > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:05 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > > > I forgot to say, a sample is available at > > > > > http://globelock.mine.nu/YWLM.tgz > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:42 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I have been generating Scenery now for a few days experimenting with > > > > > > data sources along the way. > > > > > > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area > > > > > is > > > > > > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The > > > > > problem is > > > > > > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > > > > > > tile. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure how to procced from here and any help would be greatly > > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > > > > stay > > > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > > ___ > > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > ___ > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > -- > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > ___ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to at
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 19:48 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: Hi ya Jason, I'd be very keen to see someone do Sydney, I think a lot of the terrain is a bit sharp, there is a weird 200ft ravine through the CBD that would make it difficult to place buildings on... S. > Ok now I am lost. > I just added another layer to the scenery and re-ran the script i use to > build the scenery and it works. > I now hve my high res coast and roads (just about to run residential > level osm) :) > > Jason > PS once done I will throw it up on my server > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:32 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > Ron, > > I think that tile is actualy ocean. > > I tried Scenery/Terrain/e150s40/e151s33/5426762.btg.gz and it show > > Default and other layers. > > > > Is there a maximum number of elements to a file as this is some high > > resolution stuff I am trying to build > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 23:10 +, Ron Jensen wrote: > > > Jason, > > > > > > Newer versions of fgfs have a command line switch "--fgviewer" that will > > > show a tile to you without need of starting all the flightgear systems. > > > > > > $fgfs --fgviewer YGDH.btg.gz > > > > > > What I am seeing is all your terrain is coming out flat and in sea/water > > > texture. By zcatting one of you terrain files through strings: > > > > > > $zcat Scenery/Terrain/e150s30/e150s30/5410562.btg.gz | strings > > > > > > The only texture listed is ocean. > > > > > > Your missing something with the terragear build chain. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:05 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > > I forgot to say, a sample is available at > > > > http://globelock.mine.nu/YWLM.tgz > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:42 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > I have been generating Scenery now for a few days experimenting with > > > > > data sources along the way. > > > > > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area > > > > is > > > > > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The > > > > problem is > > > > > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > > > > > tile. > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure how to procced from here and any help would be greatly > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > > ___ > > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > > > > -- > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > ___ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
Ok now I am lost. I just added another layer to the scenery and re-ran the script i use to build the scenery and it works. I now hve my high res coast and roads (just about to run residential level osm) :) Jason PS once done I will throw it up on my server On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 18:32 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > Ron, > I think that tile is actualy ocean. > I tried Scenery/Terrain/e150s40/e151s33/5426762.btg.gz and it show > Default and other layers. > > Is there a maximum number of elements to a file as this is some high > resolution stuff I am trying to build > > > Jason > > > On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 23:10 +, Ron Jensen wrote: > > Jason, > > > > Newer versions of fgfs have a command line switch "--fgviewer" that will > > show a tile to you without need of starting all the flightgear systems. > > > > $fgfs --fgviewer YGDH.btg.gz > > > > What I am seeing is all your terrain is coming out flat and in sea/water > > texture. By zcatting one of you terrain files through strings: > > > > $zcat Scenery/Terrain/e150s30/e150s30/5410562.btg.gz | strings > > > > The only texture listed is ocean. > > > > Your missing something with the terragear build chain. > > > > Ron > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:05 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > I forgot to say, a sample is available at > > > http://globelock.mine.nu/YWLM.tgz > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:42 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have been generating Scenery now for a few days experimenting with > > > > data sources along the way. > > > > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area > > > is > > > > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The > > > problem is > > > > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > > > > tile. > > > > > > > > I am not sure how to procced from here and any help would be greatly > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > -- > > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > > ___ > > Flightgear-devel mailing list > > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel > > > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
Ron, I think that tile is actualy ocean. I tried Scenery/Terrain/e150s40/e151s33/5426762.btg.gz and it show Default and other layers. Is there a maximum number of elements to a file as this is some high resolution stuff I am trying to build Jason On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 23:10 +, Ron Jensen wrote: > Jason, > > Newer versions of fgfs have a command line switch "--fgviewer" that will > show a tile to you without need of starting all the flightgear systems. > > $fgfs --fgviewer YGDH.btg.gz > > What I am seeing is all your terrain is coming out flat and in sea/water > texture. By zcatting one of you terrain files through strings: > > $zcat Scenery/Terrain/e150s30/e150s30/5410562.btg.gz | strings > > The only texture listed is ocean. > > Your missing something with the terragear build chain. > > Ron > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:05 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > I forgot to say, a sample is available at > > http://globelock.mine.nu/YWLM.tgz > > > > Jason > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:42 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > I have been generating Scenery now for a few days experimenting with > > > data sources along the way. > > > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area > > is > > > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The > > problem is > > > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > > > tile. > > > > > > I am not sure how to procced from here and any help would be greatly > > > appreciated. > > > > > > Jason > > > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
Jason, Newer versions of fgfs have a command line switch "--fgviewer" that will show a tile to you without need of starting all the flightgear systems. $fgfs --fgviewer YGDH.btg.gz What I am seeing is all your terrain is coming out flat and in sea/water texture. By zcatting one of you terrain files through strings: $zcat Scenery/Terrain/e150s30/e150s30/5410562.btg.gz | strings The only texture listed is ocean. Your missing something with the terragear build chain. Ron On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 08:05 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > I forgot to say, a sample is available at > http://globelock.mine.nu/YWLM.tgz > > Jason > > > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:42 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have been generating Scenery now for a few days experimenting with > > data sources along the way. > > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area > is > > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The > problem is > > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > > tile. > > > > I am not sure how to procced from here and any help would be greatly > > appreciated. > > > > Jason -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
Jason Cox wrote: > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area is > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The problem is > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > tile. Might $FG_SCENERY need a fix ? Please post a sample to a public place, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unable to view scenery in Flightgear, OK in Atlas
I forgot to say, a sample is available at http://globelock.mine.nu/YWLM.tgz Jason On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 07:42 +1100, Jason Cox wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have been generating Scenery now for a few days experimenting with > data sources along the way. > I currently have some scenery that shows as expected in atlas (area is > around YWLM).The coast and major roads show up correctly. The problem is > that when I start Flightgear using the scenery I just get an ocean > tile. > > I am not sure how to procced from here and any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Jason > > > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > ___ > Flightgear-devel mailing list > Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
