Re: FLUXLIST: Live Matter
#2 Traded with Reid Wood for BAB(B)EL ON-- in a LIVE MATTER production by Reed Altemus.(Everyone should purchase one!) Hello all, The folders are $8postage included. So far only two titles: Spheres by Andrew Topel and Reid's BAB(B)EL ON soon Haute Couture Death Texts by Jim Leftwich and Mappaemundi by Carol Stetser these are folders with 6-9 signed and numbered prints in an edition of 100 on archival acid-free cotton paper Available from Tonerworks | POB 52 | Portland | ME | 04112 USA or send me something you've done of similar worth for trade. Cheers, Reed Altemus
Re: FLUXLIST: Some/Nothing (after Kamen)
Me too David.I second that. I pledge allegiance to the nothing and the nothing for which it stands one nothing under nothing indivisible and with nothing and nothing for nobody From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com To: fluxlist@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: Some/Nothing (after Kamen) Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 13:13:04 + Nothing in the way she moves. This could be the start of nothing big. I've got nothing in my pocket. Nothing tells me I'm in for nothing good. MElissa Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! http://www.bonafideart.com _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: FLUXLIST: no/thing
in vino veritas - Original Message - From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fluxlist@scribble.com Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: no/thing Wasn't there an old Art of Noise song that had lines like ...no wind, no rain, no sound ending with no Vember? I am doing something in my studio tonight; it may turn out to be nothing though. Nowhere. No warts No arts. No under. No wonder. No one. Just li'l ol' me, and maybe a tad too much alcohol Just maybe. xoMElissa Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! http://www.bonafideart.com
Re: FLUXLIST: being and something (or nothing)/BAB(B)LE ON
It's $8US or 8 Euros or something nice in trade from Tonerworks P.O.Box 52 Portland,ME 04112 USA - Original Message - From: David-Baptiste Chirot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:59 PM Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: being and something (or nothing)/BAB(B)LE ON as my daught Covay said when young--i'm being haved-- (hay-ved)--and THAT is something!! for all of! I would highly most highly recommend to all Reid's BAB(B)LE ON--just out from Reed Altemu's Toner works--ful color beautiful visual poetry--the kind of work that makes you want to sing it out loud! onwo/ards ever--david-bc From: Reid Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: FLUXLIST: being and something (or nothing) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:15:30 -0400 I'm being, and that's something (or is it nothing?). Reid Reid Wood (State of Being) Haven't-Garde Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://havent-gardeart.blogspot.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: FLUXLIST: Kervinen-Bennett collabs
I have a couple of pieces at otoliths also: http://the-otolith.blogspot.com/2006/04/reed-altemus.html the one called co lab is a Bennett/Leftwich/Altemus thingy - Original Message - From: John M. Bennett To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Kervinen-Bennett collabs Beautiful! Thanks -JohnAt 11:08 PM 4/17/2006, you wrote: Hi John,Thanks, I saw them yesterday, looks great. Very nice to be publishedwith you ! And John, please check out these collabs:http://www.nokturno.org/index.php?poeetta=kervinenI will have some photos from the exhibition, will send to you when they arrive.Best,JukkaOn Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:28:40 -0400"John M. Bennett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out these vispo collabs: http://the-otolith.blogspot.com/2006/04/jukka-pekka-kervinen.html http://the-otolith.blogspot.com/2006/04/jukka-pekka-kervinen.html John __ Dr. John M. Bennett Curator, Avant Writing Collection Rare Books Manuscripts Library The Ohio State University Libraries 1858 Neil Av Mall Columbus, OH 43210 USA (614) 292-3029 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.johnmbennett.net ___ __Dr. John M. BennettCurator, Avant Writing CollectionRare Books Manuscripts LibraryThe Ohio State University Libraries1858 Neil Av MallColumbus, OH 43210 USA(614) 292-3029[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.johnmbennett.net___
Re: FLUXLIST: desiring books, there is no
No, not all of us. For instance, I'm Monty Cantsin not Karen Eliot. - Original Message - From: Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: desiring books, there is no On 1427 Rabiʻ I 18, at 5:34 PM, Madawg Painterofdark wrote: are you THE Karen Elliot of Neoist fame? Aren't we all? R~~
Re: FLUXLIST: Disposable Knife Interlude
Yes,a nice baked bean splatter might just be a terrific score if recorded graphically in some way. Dear Reed-- a nice accompaniement may be accomplished by placing bits of one's lunch on the edge of the knife when pressed down--so that when let go--they go arcing through the air, giving visual impressions of the sonic vibrations of the knife's music-- ah!! the waltzing forms of potato salad! the graceful turns of egg salad--or the sweet arcings of the tuna! (the forms and splatter patternings these create at the end of thier flights might be considered as new events in themselves--) From: Reed Altemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com To: Baroni [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED],Ross Priddle [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mark Pawson [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ken Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED],Jukka-Pekka Kervinen [EMAIL PROTECTED],Jukka-Pekka Kervinen [EMAIL PROTECTED],Jukka-Pekka Kervinen [EMAIL PROTECTED],jim leftwich [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frank Turek [EMAIL PROTECTED],FLUXLIST FLUXLIST@scribble.com,luc fierens [EMAIL PROTECTED],Keith de Mendonca [EMAIL PROTECTED],Don Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Grumman [EMAIL PROTECTED],Andrew Topel [EMAIL PROTECTED],Andrew Topel [EMAIL PROTECTED],Alan Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: Disposable Knife Interlude Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 11:26:20 -0400 DISPOSABLE KNIFE INTERLUDE PLACE A DISPOSABLE PLASTIC KNIFE ON THE EDGE OF A TABLE. WITH YOUR LEFT HAND HOLD DOWN THE PORTION OF THE KNIFE WHICH IS ON THE TABLE. WITH YOUR RIGHT HAND PLAY THE KNIFE BY BENDING DOWN THEN RELEASING THE PORTION OF THE KNIFE WHICH OVERHANGS THE TABLE. TO CHANGE THE PITCH USE YOUR LEFT HAND TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF THE KNIFE OVERHANGING THE EDGE OF THE TABLE. LESS HANGING OVER = HIGHER PITCH, MORE HANGING OVER = LOWER PITCH. PLAY SOME STRAUSS WALTZES. 01-20-05 _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow
Reid, I feel the same way. Bereft. I have been thinking about it a lot lately and have a piece in a local show which addresses the issue directly. It's titled Is a death's head the true face of Fluxus today? The overall theme of the show was clowns. Reed PS the piece was a stampsheet - Original Message - From: Reid Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 8:06 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow Judith- Thanks for the information - sad news, as more and more of the artists who I feel connected to are leaving us. Reid On Apr 5, 2006, at 7:44 PM, Judith wrote: Allan Kaprow passed away early this afternoon at home with his family around him. He has been ill for about two years. A memorial for him will be planned later this year. He has influenced many, many people, not just artists, and his memory will be part of all our lives. We are diminished by his loss. Judith A. Hoffberg
Re: FLUXLIST: Maciunas Stories
Don-- These two stories are interesting. I especially like the one about writing Maciunas a bad check. He, if anyone, could appreciate that from what I've heard. Reed - Original Message - From: Allan Revich To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Maciunas Stories Two new short stories about George by Don Boyd at http://donaldboyd.blogspot.com
FLUXLIST: Fw: [spidertangle] call for mail art
- Original Message - From: e.g. vajda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Christian Mildbrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zavarof miguel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; IBIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: [spidertangle] call for mail art call to participate- please forward widely please send: postcard size any method - vispo wanted! theme: PUBLIC ART no juries, no deadline, ongoing project to introduce the community of prescott, arizona to mail art. works will be on display at prescott college spring-summer 2006. doc to all! SEND TO: grace vajda prescott college mailbox 580 220 grove avenue prescott, arizona, 86301 USA (please include your email or snail mail address) thank you! eggshellorchestra.blogspot.com S P I D E R T A N G L E Projects listed at: http://www.spidertangle.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spidertangle/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork on Tonerworks
Hello all, After a two month respite from blogging (and YES I was beginning to miss it) and three weeks of frustration trying to contact blogger support and what seems like endless fiddling trying to see what would work and what didn't, I have returned to Tonerworks and my first offered postings are again a bookwork by the late English visual poet Bob Cobbing this time a 1983 duo with his wife Jennifer Pike Cobbing called "Processual 2" which I posted in its entirety. For those interested in visual poetry, a treat. Check it out at: tonerworks.blogspot.com Reed
Re: FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork on Tonerworks
Reid, Yes, I've been following your bloggings daily since you started. All looks good... Reed - Original Message - From: Reid Wood To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Cobbing bookwork on Tonerworks Reed- Very nice work ... glad to see you publishing on your blog again. I continue to add things to mine at http://havent-gardeart.blogspot.com The other Reid Reid Wood (State of Being) "Haven't-Garde Art" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://havent-gardeart.blogspot.com On Feb 27, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Reed Altemus wrote: Hello all, After a two month respite from blogging (and YES I was beginning to miss it) and three weeks of frustration trying to contact blogger support and what seems like endless fiddling trying to see what would work and what didn't, I have returned to Tonerworks and my first offered postings are again a bookwork by the late English visual poet Bob Cobbing this time a 1983 duo with his wife Jennifer Pike Cobbing called "Processual 2" which I posted in its entirety. For those interested in visual poetry, a treat. Check it out at: tonerworks.blogspot.com Reed
FLUXLIST: Fw: (,) PAINTINGS AND ASSEMBLAGES - Reduce Reuse Recycle 2006
- Original Message - From: junanne Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ma-network@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:38 AM Subject: (,) PAINTINGS AND ASSEMBLAGES - Reduce Reuse Recycle 2006 PAINTINGS AND ASSEMBLAGES - Reduce Reuse Recycle 2006 Curated by: Junanne Peck Mail Art Call: You are invited to participate in the Paintings and Assemblages- Reduce Reuse Recycle Hosted by: Rose Marine Gallery 1440 N. Main St. Fort Worth, Tx. 76106 Size: open Medium: open Theme: Recycle WE are also having a Trash art Fashion Show. It is also open for participation. We will need to know sizes as to get models if you are not available . Fashion show will follow exhibit in the Rose Marine Theater . Art Exhibit to be held at the Rose Marine Gallery located in Fort Worth, Texas. Dates of Exhibit: April 21, 2006 - May 30, 2006 Deadline April 10, 2006 Artist Reception: April 21, 2006 6:30 -9:00 pm Documentation online No returns (I will be adding past documentations as well) If you have any questions please contact Junanne Peck Exhibition Curator. Send all entries to : Junanne Peck P.O. Box 8776 Fort Worth, Tx. 76124-0776 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 817-457-6688
Re: FLUXLIST: Nam June Paik passed away
Paik was a major inspiration for my email art in the early 90ies and for my event scores after that. A true electronic pioneer. Reed - Original Message - From: Gabriel Swossil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: Nam June Paik passed away http://www.paikstudios.com/ Nam June Paik passed away at his Miami home at 8:00pm EST on Sunday, January 29th, 2006. Funeral information to be announced. very sad, another fluxfriend gone... Gabriel
Re: FLUXLIST: Smashing Duchamp
mIEKAL, Thanks for posting this item. Reed - Original Message - From: mIEKAL aND [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 11:15 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Smashing Duchamp Conceptual Artist as Vandal: Walk Tall and Carry a Little Hammer (or Ax) By ALAN RIDING Published: January 7, 2006 http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/07/arts/design/07duch.html PARIS, Jan. 6 - The Dada movement made its name in the early 20th century by trying to destroy the conventional notion of art. Taking literal inspiration from their exploits this week, a latter-day neo- Dadaist took a small hammer to Marcel Duchamp's Fountain, the factory-made urinal that is considered the cornerstone of Conceptual Art. The assailant, a French performance artist named Pierre Pinoncelli, was immediately arrested after his act of vandalism, which took place on Wednesday, during the final days of the Dada exhibition at the Pompidou Center. The porcelain urinal was slightly chipped in the attack and was withdrawn to be restored. (The exhibition runs through Monday.) Mr. Pinoncelli, 77, who urinated into the same urinal and struck it with a hammer in a show in Nîmes in 1993, has a long record of organizing bizarre happenings. Police officials said he again called his action a work of art, a tribute to Duchamp and other Dada artists. Indeed, Fountain itself was rejected for being neither original nor art when Duchamp offered it for the first exhibition of the Society of Independent Artists in New York in 1917. That version of the urinal, displayed upside down and signed R. Mutt, was subsequently lost. The Pompidou's Fountain is one of eight signed replicas made by Duchamp in 1964. After the attack on Wednesday, Mr. Pinoncelli was held by the police overnight. He was released on Thursday and ordered to appear in court here on Jan. 24 to answer charges of damaging the property of others. As in 1993, he could face a prison term or a fine. (After the first urinal attack, he was jailed for a month and fined the equivalent of $37,500.) The Pompidou Center said it was too early to know the cost of restoring the work. (Curators said a different Duchamp urinal was already scheduled for inclusion in the version of the show traveling to the National of Gallery of Art in Washington, Feb. 19 through May 14, and to the Museum of Modern Art in New York, June 18 through Sept. 11.) The vandalism raises the persistent question of how valuable works of art can be protected in museums that log millions of visitors each year. Many paintings on display today are shielded by glass. At the Louvre, the Mona Lisa, which was stolen in 1911 and struck by a stone in 1956, is now in a sealed enclosure behind 1.52-inch-thick glass. Mr. Pinoncelli's attack also refocuses attention on the perennial question of what defines art. The question, playfully yet provocatively raised by the Dada movement nearly a century ago, has been refreshed since the 1980's by succeeding waves of Conceptual, installation and performance art. Like this week's case, such protests are often waged by artists themselves. In 1999, for example, two Chinese artists, Yuan Cai and Jian Jun Xi Ianjun, jumped on My Bed, a work by the British artist Tracey Emin comprising an unmade bed accompanied by empty bottles, dirty underwear and used condoms, that was on view at Tate Britain. The following year, the same two artists urinated on the Tate Modern's version of Fountain, noting that Duchamp himself said artists defined art. A British artist, Michael Landy, held what he called Break Down in an empty department store in London in 2001: in this happening, he destroyed all his possessions, including art donated by friends. Two other British artists, the Chapman brothers, were accused of vandalism in 2003 when they added the faces of clowns and puppets to the 80 etchings in an edition of Goya's Disasters of War that they had purchased. In 1991, an artist generally described as unbalanced attacked Michelangelo's David statue in Florence, Italy, and damaged a foot. Among numerous other protests, blue dye was sprayed over Carl Andre's display of bricks at the Tate Gallery in London in 1976, and black ink was squirted into a transparent container displaying Damien Hirst's dead sheep preserved in formaldehyde at the Serpentine Gallery in London. Still, not all vandalism is intended: another work by Mr. Hirst on display in a Mayfair gallery in 2001 - half-full coffee cups, dirty ashtrays, beer bottles and the like - was thrown away by cleaners who mistook it for refuse. The same thing happened at Tate Britain in 2004 to a work by Gustav Metzger, a bag of trash titled Recreation of First Public Demonstration of Auto-Destructive Art. In the case of Mr. Pinoncelli, who could not be reached on Friday, nothing is accidental. After he urinated in and damaged Fountain in the Carré d'Art in Nîmes, he said he wanted to rescue the work from its inflated status and restore it to its
FLUXLIST: Apollinaire's Bookshoppe
Something really worth checking out if you don't know about it already: http://www.bookthug.ca
Re: FLUXLIST: An Historical Atlas of Fluxlist - Proposal
Alan, I shall drag myself kicking and screaming into this new project. Cheers, Reed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:12 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: An Historical Atlas of Fluxlist - Proposal An Historical Atlas of Fluxlist Fluxlist has effectively evolved into a small community, an example of the 'global village' at its most, well villagy (sp?). Village elders and village idiots, friends and vague acquaintances, over the back fence chatters, curtain twitchers, the odd recluse and a whole host of folks who just go about their daily business, minding their own and showing up at the odd parish meeting to put their two pennerth in. On occasion itinerant travellers wander through offering wares varying from the delightful to the downright dubious. Sometimes the circus turns up and erects its big-top in the carpark, sometimes hooligans from neighbouring villages show up and cause fights in the pub. People pass away and are mourned, people get married, have babies and their neighbours raise their glasses in acknowledgement. Sometimes new villagers turn up out of the blue and others up sticks and move away to the city. The strange thing is that most of the villagers live thousands of miles away from each other, many have never met any of the others, some have met but a handful, many can not put a face to the name and most a probably quite unaware of the existence of some of the remainder. The idea is this: To construct an historical and geographical atlas of fluxlist, past and present. Each current member of Fluxlist is invited to write about another - a biographical piece placing that person geographically, historically and contextually into the story of Fluxlist. These biographical pieces may be based on truth or complete fantasy. Pieces may vary in length, there being no maximum or minimum enforced and may be written in any language deemed appropriate by the author. Anecdotes and stories of bravery, stupidity or particularly successful dinner parties, artworks and animals, music and missing weekends. When and how they joined Fluxlist, motives and mysterious sudden disappearances. Notable contributions to Fluxlist, faux pas and folly. Place of birth, date of birth, date of first date and outcome. Famous/noted/ignored for... Place of abode, distance travelled by bicycle, bravelled by tricycle and amount of interest in % of learning to unicycle. Information on place of abode, including address, city, state, country etc. Participants may produce as many 'biographies' as they wish. Or you could write something completely different. The aim is document Fluxlist to date, to produce something which records Fluxlist membership at various levels, not just names but information about the person, a short biography (as stated) and information about their geographical location (and their location in time if you so wish). Entries may be duplicated. In fact duplicate entries, especially about 'active' members, are to be encouraged thus building up a broader view of the individual. Eventually the biographies will be used to build up a 'map' of Fluxlist. The aim is to publish this 'atlas', eventually, as an actual book if costs are not too prohibitive, and in digital format (PDF and HTML) Those interested in contributing are kindly requested to let me know within the next week or so. Thanks Alan
Re: FLUXLIST: Cooking with Alan
Melissa, Great to have you back. And in such a chipper mood! Reed - Original Message - From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Cooking with Alan or Sol. or Roger...or any of the brave souls from the NYC gathering of a shameful few years back...(only shameful in that it's been too long since). Seems like life is one fluxing fluxus performance after another: Score for beginning the day: When alarm chimes, groan and realize that up 'til that moment it *has* all been a dream and now it's back to life, back to reality. Score for 8:00 am EST: Unlock the office door, turn on lights, greet plants and office fauna, check answering service and boot up the computer -- Prime (for work), fax cover sheet (ditto), NY Times (for news), Live365 or Accuradio (for sanity). Score for 5:00pm EST: Undo Lather, rinse and repeat. The bright side is music, lots of it, and laughter and friends...and equating food and/or alcohol with love. pip-pip-cheerio, and toodle-oo to all! knock three times on the ceiling if you want me. xoMelissa Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! http://www.bonafideart.com
Re: FLUXLIST: FW: First Postmaster Honored with mail art event
I'm gonna have to agree with Michael on this. After receiving the wonderful yet in some ways typical printed catalogue from Lorentzweiler Luxembourg for their What Is Mail-Art? show I have to say that web documentation doesn't excite me much either. Reed - Original Message - From: michael leigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:07 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: FW: First Postmaster Honored with mail art event The documentation doesnt sound very exciting? listed on website? big deal. You'd think the Modesto Art Museum were taking their name rather too literally! Michael --- Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I expect most of you already have this. But if not - here it is. Um - here it is if you have, as well, of course. XXX Roger In honor of the 300th anniversary of the birth of the first postmaster general of United States, Benjamin Franklin, the Modesto Art Museum is hosting a mail art event. Theme: Benjamin Franklin, colonial and US mail history Deadline for all entries:Tuesday, 8 November 2005 Medium: mail art, stamp art, post cards, envelopes. Remember, the piece of mail art itself should be stamped and postmarked. Exhibit: Exhibition begins on the museum web site in January 2006. The live exhibition will be in Modesto, California, in January 2006, at the Anderson Gallery. Return: none, all entries become part of the Modesto Art Museum collection. No sale, no auction, no judging. Size: no larger than 10 x 8 x 1 inches, or 26 x 19 x 3 centimeters. Documentation: All artists listed on the web site. Note: Please include your mailing address and email address on/in your entry for acknowledgement. Send Entries to: Benjamin Franklin Mail Art Modesto Art Museum 404 Patrick Lane Modesto, CA 95350 USA More Details at http://modartmuse.org/mainfranklin.htm http://modartmuse.org/mainfranklin.htm Direct questions to Bob Barzan at the Modesto Art Museum (MAM) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's another blog! http://flobberlob.blogspot.com/ ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: Cobbing book on TONERWORKS blog
Hello all, For those of you interested in visual poetry I have posted in its entirety the bookwork by the late Bob Cobbing Processual 1 from 1982. You can see it at: tonerworks.blogspot.com For now... Reed
FLUXLIST: Fw: [Newsletter Ben] GEORGE BRECHT IN KOLN
- Original Message - From: Ben Vautier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:40 AM Subject: [Newsletter Ben] GEORGE BRECHT IN KOLN Hello Fluxus friends This is a small newsletter concerning George Brecht and his coming show at Ludwig Museum in Köln Opening on the 16 th of September at 14 to 19,00 George Brecht is the artist maybe the artist in the world who marked me the most. I was at the time in 1962 interested in what could be defined as the limits of art I had met Yves Klein (the monochrome) Manzoni (shit in art) and knew about Duchamp's Ready Made So when Maciunas in 1962 in London said to me : There is someone in New York called George Brecht whose work also contains and concerns a limit in art I said : what does he do? Maciunas answered : He blinks or just shakes your hand or closes a door. I remember being so taken aback at the idea that I decided to go to New York and see George Brecht There in 1964 I saw him on Canal Street Brecht arrived sat at the piano the lights went out. in the dark Brecht left the piano the light came back the piano was all alone music can't get simpler And as it was my habit to compare and classify what I saw I put Brecht with Duchamp and John Cage Top three Very far in front of all the others Pop : new realist , Arte Povera artists etc Why? Because most of the others Are just new decoration Why do I consider George Brecht so important? Because this simple white chair against this wall close to the door, in my kitchen when I think : that it is George Brecht that reduces all other works to the walls, to the level of esthetical decorations Why do I consider George Brecht so important? Because In 1961 at Martha Jackson in New York there was a show with all the Pop of the time and Brecht, a table, two chairs and deck of cards his piece went partially unnoticed but 40 years after contains rupture and not variation Why do I consider George Brecht so important? Because When 30 year's later Beaubourg Museum wanted to acquire Brecht his instructions were of going with the BHV (retail shop) or elsewhere, buy a coat rack a red waxed coat to pose them some where in the museum Why do I consider George Brecht so important? Because Robin Page said of Brecht : He is the only man who can walk on snow without leaving a trace Why do I consider George Brecht so important? Because Water Yam, the main work of Brecht, contains events and the Brecht event is a kind of frontier line between art and life simplicity, details, etc in art Why do I consider George Brecht so important? Because his attitude towards art does not contain the classical art ego duo or I would say is put as much as possible aside but i still have lots to say about the importance of event in art so I think I will write a longer article on Brecht you can read on my site http://www.ben-vautier.com/ just clic on the fluxus tongue Still just a few words Well but I am Ben vautier And I do art I have an ego Difficult to hide So I don't hide it And since I will be going to see Brecht's show in Köln I would like to inform you that I am also participating in a show with Ben Patterson and Vera Lossau at the Gallery Shüppenhauer Bismakstrasse 70 The opening is on the 17 th September at 14 h to 19h00 I decided to show some works on chance Hope to see you in Köln Ben vautier Pour ne plus recevoir cette newsletter (liste [fluxus]), cliquez sur ce lien ou copiez_collez-le dans votre navigateur web ; suppression IMMEDIATE / To unsubscribe to this newsletter (list [fluxus]), click on this link or copy_paste it in your web browser; you will be unsubscribed IMMEDIATELY : http://www.ben-vautier.com/newsletter/index.php?page=mailsubscribe=falsela_liste=fluxus[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FLUXLIST: Re:Happy Birthday
Judith, That's so great- I just received the book Musicage the conversations with Joan Retallack today in the mail. Synchronicity I guess. I'm anxious to start it soon but knowing it's his birthday makes the book such a strange coincidence! Anyway, thanks. Reed - Original Message - From: Judith Hoffberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:16 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Re:Happy Birthday Happy Birthday, John Cage! jah aka Umbrella
Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: [Newsletter Ben] GEORGE BRECHT IN KOLN
He has many newsletters on many different topics 99 per cent of which are in French, butBen's Fluxus newsletter is in English or at least this one was. You can subscribe to any or all of them via his web site. Reed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: [Newsletter Ben] GEORGE BRECHT IN KOLN I'd like to know how you get Ben's newsletter in English-mine always comes in French-Dawg
Re: FLUXLIST: found fluxus headline
The way it reads seems to imply you have to go on a rampage to get the pot-- at least that's how it sounds to me. Or am I just being dumb? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 10:42 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: found fluxus headline i think one has to appear stoned as a contestant on the price is right -Original Message- From: Allan Revich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:48:35 -0400 Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: found fluxus headline Can one get some of this reward pot by mail, or does one have to show up in Monterey A!!an From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:22 PM To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: found fluxus headline found in the Monterey Herald Aug 13: PUBLIC ADDS TO REWARD POT IN CARWASH RAMPAGE
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Dinner Dance
Sol and Alan, I like that there was second pints already on deck! Only wish I coulda been there. Great to see you back on the list again Sol. Reed - Original Message - From: Sol Nte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Dinner Dance http://www.fluxlist.com/dinnerdance/ I feel the turnout was quite poor this year but we both had a good time ;) cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: 3650 pics
Cher Bowman, That's my friend Robert Fisher of the Willard Grant Conspiracy!!! Good God! What was he doing in your neck o' th' woods? (playing a gig obviously...) Did you meet him? Was my name mentioned? Reed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: 3650 pics dear mrs and mrss and misses and mses fluxlisters new cell-phone photos of no real interest uploaded to bowman's blog thing. you don't have to even go there he just told me to tell you. yours apathetically l. mow-banana fffo over-worked and under-stimulated div Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net
Re: FLUXLIST: willard grant conspiracy
Too weird seeing a pic you took of whatever ending up here as my friend ( I don't see him often, an old friend, he tours a lot these days). Anyway, I'll see if I can absorb that... RA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:16 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: willard grant conspiracy caro reed, alas the photo of the Fisher King was from a photo! i have never met him i'm afraid. i wonder how many other fluxlisters have heard of the Willard Grant Conspiracy... Cher Bowman, That's my friend Robert Fisher of the Willard Grant Conspiracy!!! Good God! What was he doing in your neck o' th' woods? (playing a gig obviously...) Did you meet him? Was my name mentioned? Reed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: 3650 pics dear mrs and mrss and misses and mses fluxlisters new cell-phone photos of no real interest uploaded to bowman's blog thing. you don't have to even go there he just told me to tell you. yours apathetically l. mow-banana fffo over-worked and under-stimulated div Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net Oh Odin's Underpants its a B(owman)LOG http://bowmansramblings.blogspot.com/ Visit the Freeformfreakout Organisation Online: http://www.freeformfreakoutorganisation.net
Re: FLUXLIST: Neoist Society
Is that like a kind of performance art? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Neoist Society In a message dated 4/18/05 11:58:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you'll find that the Onanist Society and the Neoist Societyare in certain instances the same.I'm a member of a book club where the only rule is to bring a bottle of wine. Does that count? dawg
Re: FLUXLIST: Neoist Society
Rod, I think you'll find that the Onanist Society and the Neoist Society are in certain instances the same. Reed - Original Message - From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fluxlist@scribble.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:04 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Neoist Society I think I'd like to be a member of the Oenist Society -- a Shiraz would go down nicely right about nowor a Pinot Grigio, since it's a lovely Spring day here in NH that I'm observing passively outside the office window...Cheers, all! xoME Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! http://www.bonafideart.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Neoist Society
Hey, was that Stewart Home who just walked by? - Original Message - From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fluxlist@scribble.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:04 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Neoist Society I think I'd like to be a member of the Oenist Society -- a Shiraz would go down nicely right about nowor a Pinot Grigio, since it's a lovely Spring day here in NH that I'm observing passively outside the office window...Cheers, all! xoME Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! http://www.bonafideart.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Noon Clamp Bone
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FLUXLIST: What Fluxus means to me (sometimes)
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Re: FLUXLIST: What Fluxus means to me (this time)
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Re: FLUXLIST: Days of Yore...(or Eeyore or Eyesore or...)
I always liked the later Red Crayola stuff better: Soldier Talk and Kangaroo. Have been wanting a CD copy of Soldier Talk but have never been able to locate one anywhere, don't know if it was reissued or not. Problem with Mayo Thompson: eventually you have to listen to a bunch of communist clap trap which always seems to come into the mix at some point. He did do some great work with David Thomas and the late Pere Ubu on the "Song of the Bailing Man" record though. Reed - Original Message - From: David-Baptiste Chirot To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Days of Yore...(or Eeyore or Eyesore or...) I would imagine there is a CD reissue of this classic. If you are looking for the lp itself, there is a late 70s English reissue on vinyl that you could probably find for much less than the old International Artists lp. (I don't recall exactly but may have been on Radar records, which did resissue some of the 13th Floor Eleavtors lps at one point.) I used to have all the lps on that lable, plus the double lp EPITAPH FOR A LEGEND--had rare singles, outtakes, live tracks and radio interviews withthe 13th Floor Elevators, and one with Roky Erikson (one of my personal heroes--a friend for my birthday gave me double lp of Roky and athe Aliens live in 78--mainly doing old reock'n'rol covesrs though mixed with Aliens materials--and now I read a new CD out of Roky--) I can't reacall the name, you could find it--but Mayo Thompson of the Red Krayola later got inolved ni some other projects oin the 70s and early 80s. Sorry my memories aren't exact! I worked seven years in new/use/rare record store in cambridge, MA--so my mind is when these topics come up suddenly awash in so many images and sounds, hard to bring them into focus with the exact info--but should be easy to findI am sure though there must be a CD out there of the Red Krayola--who could live without them!??) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Days of Yore...(or Eeyore or Eyesore or...) Date: 18 Mar 2005 23:56:59 - aha! the original album art for 'the parable of arable land'? the red crayola and..??? BTW does anyone have this album?i'm finding it hard to fine at the right price... knowaddameen' al of the now defunct 'unfortunately ugly' -Messaggio Originale- Da: Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Data invio: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 17:35:41 -0600 Oggetto: Re: FLUXLIST: Days of Yore...(or Eeyore or Eyesore or...) http://stasick.org/fluxpups.jpg Rod --- Now playing: Anthony Braxton - Stalemates ▪ During sex, my girlfriend always wants to talk to me. Just the other night she called me from a hotel. ~ Rodney Dangerfield With MSN Hotmail's Photo Upload Tool preview and edit pictures before you email them!
Re: FLUXLIST: Back again...
Yes, Melissa, welcome, welcome! welcome back melissa there are quite a few of us still here, just that we don't seem to do all that much... i'm workin on a fluxlist project, but don't have a lot of time at the mo, what with the jam eaters at work and the ankle biters at home! still trying to write the brief in a way that it may actually attract some prolonged attention. hopefully most of the reglar contributors will, well, ...contribute. lurkers will be involved whether they like it or not! i hope i can get it organisisisised soon. toodlepip alan psst... Carol I haven't forgotten you! Joseph's got the flu :-(
Re: FLUXLIST: Shameless gulp
Funny how brain damage and RR seem to go hand in hand... ha, ha, ha Geez, David, be CAREFUL with those aerosols! Wonder if you could get workmans comp for brain damage which occured as a result of making art... wouldn't you like something less industrial (and less lethal!) like maybe a 77 or white russian? or a beer? or just a glass of mineral water? i just gulped in spray paint fumes cigarette and strong black fuel coffee i'm ready to rock all night--long-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Shameless gulp Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 18:20:40 EST In a message dated 3/4/05 3:07:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and to anyone--what would make a fluxus martini? Are there any recipies out there? one shot one shot one shot and then dance naked Find files on your PC instantly with the new MSN Toolbar Suite beta FREE!
Re: FLUXLIST: Stewart (not at) Home,
Title: Re: FLUXLIST: a fluxus experience Wow Ann, you see right through me! How do you do that? And you're so witty! Should we give Ann the FLUXLIST best quip of the day prize? - Original Message - From: Ann Klefstad To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:33 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: a fluxus experience On 2/23/05 5:04 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/16/05 4:22:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Stoot a tipee witt a weegwomi would love to know a little (a lot)more about this book...sorry about the delay-been gone- the book is called "Hiawatta witt no odder poems" by Milt Gross-the book states he is the creator of Nize Baby- it was printed in 1928- which is interesting since that was the surrealism era-but I can't figure out if its influenced by that or not. DawgSounds more like it is influenced by Krazy Kat, or the other humorous lit etc inspired by Yiddish and other immigrant accents. Krazy has much the same utterly homey mamaloschen charm mixed with antic wit.AK
FLUXLIST: Stewart Home on _The Assault on Culture_
Just in case anyone's still interested this link is to an Interview on The Stewart Home Society site where he holds forth on what his intentions were with The Assault on Culture for an Italian magazine. Gives onlya partial clue as to the date of its publication though... http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/18libri.html
Re: FLUXLIST: collage cassettes/wd like to mail them
jim, I'm in touch with one poet who has done a lot with tape (casette) and CD in the area of audio collage. You might drop him a note, see if he's interested: Mark Sonnenfeld Marymark Press 45-08 Old Millstone Dr. East Windsor,NJ 08520 Best, Reed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: collage cassettes/wd like to mail them yes david ///sounds good. ive done the same, made tapes with radio broadcast, short wave / am / fm cut in with music and ambient sounds. some random, some with specidic intent. i use standard tape players as well as a 4 track..maybe we could collaborate by recording a side a pieces, doing cut in, or 4 tracking it if you have one. yeah, let me know. ill send soon. jim
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus and Dada/Dada and Buddhism
Thanks, Tim, sounds worth looking into. Hello, For those who would like to read more about Dada and Zen, there is a book that came out in 1977 by Ko Wan called Buddhist Elements in Dada: A Comparison of Tristan Tzara, Takahashi Shinkichi, and Their Fellow Poets, that explores the Dada/Buddhist connection in depth. Also, it is a good critical introduction to the work of Takahashi, whose poetry is extraordinary. Since someone else in this thread recommended reading Takahashi, I will add that there are a few excellent translations of his work by Lucien Stryk, especially Triumph of the Sparrow. -- Tim Duncan
Re: FLUXLIST:burning the potroast
I don't think there is an "exactly Fluxus" which means that there is really really only"approximately Fluxus" Fluxus thus being a matter of degree. Yes, these days with regard to Fluxus that makes a nice pun. Reed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:16 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST:burning the potroast what is exactly fluxus?just wondering.Dawg
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus and Dada/Dada and Buddhism
In a message dated 2/8/05 9:34:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just bought a copy of his "The Approximate Man and Other Writings" for $20 which was a real steal reed, can i ask which used book store you went to? It was YES Books in Portland Maine. I've been doing business with the owner Pat Murphy for many years. It's located on Congress St. about 2 blocks from where I live. Why? Do you live nearby? Portland? Maine? Not sure if he has a website... it's surprising that he didn't really know what he had. thanks reed. yes, i live in hallowell maine. sounds like a place i'll be visiting maybe we'll run into each other and you can show me some secret hiding places. I'll be the utterly charming one with the derby, of course. ;-)
Re: FLUXLIST: H.e l p Wanted!
Alan, I had trouble with the Books/Event Scores link. The 4th book wouldn't load only a blank screen. Reed - Original Message - From: Alan Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:19 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: H.e l p Wanted! Dear All, On occasion we get messages to say that the FFFO website doesn't actually work all that well. Now we know that its inconsistent design and the sheer level of boredom it can induce are long term problems, but we need testers to test for other problems. Tests from the FFFO computer dept's machines and from remote computers in regional offices show few real problems, however Coco Gordon's Mac beg's to differ. We know that supereva.it puts everything in a window and that the URL never changes, what we need to know is just how much of a problem that is for viewers. Does anyone fancy helping us out here? Testers required and suggestions for altenative webhosting (N.B. The FFFO is a dedicated loss making concern, we even had to sell the coffers!) the site is around 50mb at present, plus we need another 20 - 30 for the Emily Harvey site and for Ben's Life Never Stops site as well as a few other projects. All we want is simple pop-up and banner free space for Odin's sake! Any help will be greatly appreciated Thanks ab visit the FREEFORMFREAKOUT ORGANISATION online! http://freeformfreakoutorganisation.net Chucking a spaniel in the works since 1986 or 7 or maybe 8 (we don't remember...)
FLUXLIST: Fluxus and Dada/Dada and Buddhism
David, It might be interesting tonote two things at this point. First, NOT everyone involved with Fluxus saw it as a descendent of Dada. I'm thinking of Robert Filliou in particular who went on record as saying quite unequivocally thatFluxus was not a later-day Dada. I thinkthe only Fluxus artist whomade a direct connection between the two was Maciunas when he called Fluxus Neo-dada, but that was early on and I don't think he ever reiterated himself on the point later. Most I think saw some correlation between the spirit of Dada and some of the more destructive Fluxus performance pieces. Ben Vautier made the observation that without Dada Fluxus would have been inconcievable. Also, of course Dick Higgins' Something Else Press published a reprint of The Dada Almanac. Second, I'd like to add to your remarks about the similarities between Buddism and Dada that Tristan Tzara noted the similarity between Dada and Eastern religions at one point. I can't remember where right off the top of my head but if you want me to dig up the reference I'd be happy to. I just bought a copy of his "The Approximate Man and Other Writings" for $20 which was a real steal-- on Amazon they're asking $100 or more! Goes to show that getting out to the used book stores from time to time can be a very rewarding experience! Best, Reed - Original Message - From: David-Baptiste Chirot To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:32 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: what did you sip today? Dear Ann and Badger Girl: i have been blushing and humbled since reading these quickly inbetween a very busy weeknd to think i have a pure soul and look like serge gainsbourg!i am glad no one else noticed! this way i can go along, incognito, incongruous-- to feel raw, simple--direct--to reach down into--or to reach out-- reading on the bus more of DADA SPECTRUM The Dialectics of Rveolt essays on the bus back and forth with text by the Third Patriarch of Zen a fellow fluxlsiter gave me two books of this a year and half ago-- one is a translation by richard b. clarke ( white pine press: osaka, japan and amherst Ma, 1973, 84) theother is a translation buy Fluxus Geogre Bercht accomapnied by facing interpretations by Dick Higgins; the book designed by Dick Higgins it is called THE AUTOBIOGRPAHY OF THE MOON the original text is the HSIN-HSIN-MING by Seng-t'san (died 606 C.E.) Third patriarch of Zen the two books very much make one aware of feels like "DaDao"--(Tao pronounced as Dao)-- (now i move from Zada to Zadadao?--from zero to infinity is not so far atl!--) one of the essays in the dada spectrum is re some of the interconnections of dada and Zen--buddhisim--mysticism of both ball and hennings and also jean/hans arp-- there is also an intersting essay on New York Dada which goes into some of Willaim Carlos Willaims delaing s with dada and hjis own struggle to find an American writing--in the period of his early books you can find colected in IMAGINATIONS--the main one is SPRING AND ALL--the search in dada for aspects of the raw, the simple, the direct--(and has a reubuff at the unnamed Russian Futurist Zaum poets)--(says they are too close to music--which is what Fluxus came out of much at the start--or as Bob Cobbing would say off Sound Poetry: "we aspire to birdsong")-- It is interesting of late to me the unity of opposities, the oneness in a sense of contradictions--in dada--the word itself--Tao the word itselfl the Way--and in "primal words" a little essay by Freud-- ii think it is related to fluxus--the intersection, conjunction, of the ephemral and the eternal in a sense--(Baudelaire's definition of Modernism--)-towards Maciunas and the Eternal network--once again, one returns to Mail Art!-- thank you again, and a sip of splash of water--lopped leaped through the air towards the tongue-- david-baptiste ps there are two sayisngs re vermont kind of corny but true at least when i grew up there-- "vermont is where you find it" and "vermont is a state of mind" the Tibetan Buddhist believe there are two sacred energy places in the usa--in vermont and in colorado-- Chugyam Trumpa first was in Vermont, then in colorado--i saw him once--he was on a dias eating pizaa drinking beer and chainsmoking cigatettes--it was a form of shock therapy i think for american buddhists to see--he said it was to better understand the american consciousness-- i kept wondering when they would bring i a tv and turn on a football game--why not take a stereotype al the way?--well, like the sheep herders of the 19th century when the american west was opening up, Trumpa moved to colorado--Vermont before the moves in the nineteenth century, had more people than today--until 1965 the Northeast Kingdom area of Vermont had no electircity--sort of the
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus and Dada/Dada and Buddhism
In a message dated 2/8/05 10:46:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just bought a copy of his "The Approximate Man and Other Writings" for $20 which was a real steal reed, can i ask which used book store you went to? It was YES Books in Portland Maine. I've been doing business with the owner Pat Murphy for many years. It's located on Congress St. about 2 blocks from where I live. Why? Do you live nearby? Portland? Maine? Not sure if he has a website... it's surprising that he didn't really know what he had.
FLUXLIST: RE:FLUXLISTRe: Stewart Home
This was originally posted last Monday but didn't get thru. RA --- I agree Roger. He has made interesting observationsabout Fluxus, too. I liked the way after all the hullabalooabout "The Assault On Culture" Stewart himself came outand said that the book was horrible as art history and basicallysaid that his intention with it was only to promote Neoism.You have to be very careful with what he says because a lotof it is disinformation contributing to what the Neoists call"The Great Confusion". He loves to propose something he doesn't really believe in just for the purpose of seeing people's reactions.Reed Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:46:33 -From: "Roger Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: Re: Stewart HomeThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.- --=_NextPart_000_002C_01C501F9.9ACBD020Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bitI love Stewart Home's stuff. I've got various odds and ends and a very good book which I can't findat the moment but I'll have a hunt for. Or it might be Joe's. He did aseries of Smile magazines donkeys years ago which were excellent.Worth searching out. Try a search for Neoism. It's a blog! http://rogerstevens.blogspot.comhttp://rogerstevens.blogspot.com Buy a book http://www.rabbitpress.com http://www.rabbitpress.com Visit The Poetry Zonehttp://www.poetryzone.co.uk http://rogerstevens.blogspot.com - -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 22 January 2005 19:43To: FLUXLIST@scribble.comSubject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: stewart home In a message dated 1/22/05 9:24:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:On Jan 20 2005, at 15:14, David-Baptiste Chirot wrote:i was wondering if any one else has read Stewart Home's book THEASSAULT ON CULTURE From Letrrisme to Neoism and Class Warno- but I just saw Foster's Home of Imaginary Friends on TV lastnight-by Madawg
FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #385
Ahoy there! Micheal Leigh! Welcome! Yes, good to see everything's cozy there in mail-art-land UK. Your premier Internet voyage on FLUXLIST- isn't a more appropriate place, I'd wager. Good group, good group. Ah, remembering the old rubber stamp exchange, Squint and Curious Things I have I think three of them in my archive, but would love to have a few more, any back issues I would really appreciate the old photocopy ephemera, yes lovely, always a treat. Could send somethings in trade etc. stampsheets? poetry postcards? color copy-art? other art-damaged goodies? Email me offlist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and we'll set something up or if that seems technically daunting just post a reply with YES in the subject line and I'll send some materials off pronto. Right then... Cheers, mate, Reed Altemus
FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V4 #362
Alan, I really don't think it matters whether you acknowledge the Fluxus banner or not. If you're working in an area which was passed down from the original Fluxus concepts, attitudes(see Ken Friedman's list of characteristics) and works then what difference does it make? What, so you can go to vernisages and schmooze with the elderly show them how clever you are? I guess some people like that kind of thing. I think that tradition is important but after a time it really developed beyond that. Stewart Home wrote about using Fluxus like a ladder until you got to a point where the ladder could be thrown away. What started for me with feeling a real affinity with Fluxus and being encouraged by Ken ended up just being another approach. Maybe to get where I am now I had to go through Fluxus country and I kept what I saw and learned on the way. Reed
Re: FLUXLIST: Grandma Goth
Sol, Actually, if memory serves, Smithereens were out of Boston. The (in)famous Rathskeller or, as it was known then the Rat. Reed
FLUXLIST: Pattern Poetry book for sale
Hi all, I have a copy of Dick Higgins' book _Pattern Poetry: Guide to an Unknown Literature_ that I'd like to sell. It's in excellent condition. Anyone interested please contact me off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks. Reed Altemus
RE: FLUXLIST: Thanks.
Welcome Ken! I'm just back from a trip to Belgium and the small press fair in Mainz Germany. Happy to come back to this. A wonderful suprise! Reed [Original Message] From: Ken Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fluxlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/3/2003 3:00:43 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Thanks. Dear Allen, Ann, Alan, Bertrand, Jonah, Cie., Thanks for the warm welcome. It's a balmy early summer night in Sweden, and my friend Jacob is calling to join him for a walk. Best regards, Ken
RE: FLUXLIST: stamp perf machine
Hi Anne, I have one also and usually would recommend myself, but last week I snapped the bolt which connects pedal to the spring and the comb, and I have to take it to a foundry to have the hole retapped and the snapped bolt replaced. So at the moment I'm out of commission. I guess you're next best bet is John. His email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps. Reed A friend of mine is seeking a stamp perfing machine for use. I remember that the dear Princess used John Held's? Would anyone have Held's email address so that my friend Scott (phoenix art instigator) could contact him? Thanks! AK
RE: FLUXLIST: small protest continues
Sol, any sites other fluxlisters are looking at for news etc? www.pacifica.org for news www.pacifica.org/peace for other resources also www.democracynow.org for news Reed
RE: FLUXLIST: Party Music
Hi all, I'm planning to attend the opening and party. Anyone else from FLUXLIST intend to go? Maybe a FLUXLIST meet op? Let me know. Reed [Original Message] From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2/13/2003 1:30:20 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Party Music For anyone living in Maine, Southern New Hampshire or the Boston area, tomorrow night (sorry for the short notice!) there's a show opening in Rollinsford NH, near Dover on the Maine border called Love, Lust and Lasciviousness for Valentine's Day. There will be a DJ at the opening from 7 til about 9, then I'm playing with some other musicians at a post-opening party on the 5th floor of the Salmon Falls Studios (the converted Damart Mill factory building). Since it's tomorrow, if you'd like more information, call my cell phone at 603-455-8008 -- leave a msg. if I don't answer and I'll call you back. Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: hello from david baptiste chirot
Thanks for pasing this on, Nancy. Would you please forward on the following to Dave? Thanks much. Reed Dave, Glad to hear that you're OK, busy, creative etc. I had a very successful showing of my copy work in a group show at a nice venue in Rockport Maine (Center for Maine Contemporary Art) during April. I also have a project running which is a visual poetry postcard collaboration, which I'd like you to take part in if possible. So far, John Bennett, Jim Leftwich, Andrew Topel, Jon Cone and Nico Vassilakis have participated I will send you some examplesof it and then you can decide how and when you 'd like to join in. FARRAGO #3 in the works also. Will be in the post with you soonish. Best, Reed
Re: FLUXLIST: Least Coveted Awards
Most Bucky I didn't know if anyone would notice that. I'm not really sure how big Fuller's ideas are these days. Maybe he's more well known in the US but in the UK it's pretty rare to come across his books in a bookshop. Even here a fossil, tho I have come across a Fuller book in one of the more esoteric used bookstores, with a hefty price I might add. My advice would be to ask Mark Pawson if you know of him (www.mpawson.demon.uk) -- I've noticed Fuller geodesic domes in his collages from time to time. Reed
Re: FLUXLIST: Least Coveted Awards
Reed Altemus: Most Definite Is this anything like Least Ambiguous or Most Artless? Funny because I got that at last years Least Coveted Awards. Maybe you could say next year Most Consistent. Reed
Re: FLUXLIST: bood web site
Sol, Looks good from here. A nice mix. Reed you have been busy. everyone look at the wonderful site sol has made for the address book covers. it is just great! thank you sol for a fine contribution. BTW books are beginning to be mailed today!
Re: Re: FLUXLIST: The Russian Avant-Garde Book 1910 - 1934 :: MoMA
Hi Kathy Nancy, Some really good ideas- biographies of non-existent people is one I'd love to do- but I think the list needs to be fleshed out more, there's a lot of repetition, maybe someone could suggest ideas to further develop? How about libraries of famous artists (like what would Duchamp or Warhol, have in their libraries?). Or a technical report on success of famous artists measured by number of orgasms in their lifetime. Maybe these are too Baroque for what you had in mind. Others have ideas to help? Reed 50 books by 50 people. Cohere by theme, size, story. five totally unrelated collages. A day in the life My first computer Favorite socks Biography of another fluxlist member books pages flipping in hand Modern Saints/Modern Sinners, dead or just playing dead festive religious theme just Fluxlist. the part the list plays. forty six minutes in the evening with a stop watch. modern sinners bios, fake and fantasy free reign, free rain hot air balloon zine as object saints and sinners Seven deadlies plus seven (noncanonical) virtues, make up one's own Fluxus Tarot? 78 cards, Major Arcana only, Or not. the Fluxus Carrot a story for kids and other young animals Pulled over for weaving. milligan pomes biography of fifty non-existent Fluxus artists, with pictures, a fluxusness justification spoof where characters meet manifesto criteria Biographies of nonexistent people Fluxlist Cooks The Fluxlist Gourmet Companion The favourite meals of the Fluxmasters Famous Suppers Scores and events that are food related Edible art How To Run A Successful Fluxus Dinner Party Poems, stories, pictures... The Fluxus Parrot.
Re: FLUXLIST: FW: EXHIBITION DESTROYED
It isn't life and it isn't destructive it's careerism- or should I say the bland following the bland. Mondrian once said that the destructive was an overlooked aspect of art. Many artists have made careers out of it- Milan Knizak, Gustave Metzger, and many after them. And it might be interesting to note that Knizak is now a major big wig Director of the National Museum in Prague or something like that, so it didn't hurt his career. What gets to me are the mediocre artists like yourself who spend there time creating precious fetish objects. I've always thought it a more balanced approach to do both and also that most artists are just maggot feeding on the corpse of culture, totally useless, made stupid by their educations, essentially non-productive members of society. Geogre Maciunas was once asked to do a show in a museum: he wanted to paint the floor with varnish and have people walk on it. That was the art. Of course, they didn't go for it. it isn't art and it isn't creative; it's vandalism. bests, carol Reed Altemus wrote: You have to give them credit for being creative. The challenge now, he adds excitedly, is to pick up the pieces and somehow turn all this back into art. To which one might exasperatedly reply But it's already art! -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://laplaza.org/~datastar/index.html
Re: FLUXLIST: FW: EXHIBITION DESTROYED
You have to give them credit for being creative. The challenge now, he adds excitedly, is to pick up the pieces and somehow turn all this back into art. To which one might exasperatedly reply But it's already art!
FLUXLIST: Dave Chirot's new address
I just got a postcard from Dave Chirot. FYI for FLUXLISTers, hisnew street address is: David Baptiste Chirot c/o Jean Dean 2874 North 52nd St. Milwaukee WI 53210 No email yet though.
Re: FLUXLIST: Passing Flower
I met Patricia on FLUXLIST (too). We flirted shamelessly for a while in public then after that traded mail art in a long leisurely loop. Her skill with Photoshop was notable. The most recent batch of artistamps she sent me recently were beautiful and funny. When I was going to be in San Francisco for four days this Fall, I asked if we could meet but unfortunately she was too busy trying to beat the damned cancer to meet me in person. But I will remember Princess Petal especially for one item she sent me: a red heart-shaped plastic box which contained beads printed with letters on them, an alphabetical love sculpture. She knew it would touch the poet in me and was what she did best- love. Being the lost soul I am sometimes, I will always remember how astounded I was that she befriended me. I had brief contact again with her recently and asked her how the new drugs she was taking were working out. She never even hinted at how seriously ill she was then. Like most on F-LIST, I was and am shocked and saddened by her passing. I feel extremely lucky to have known her and will miss her very much. To me she will always be my friend, Petal. Reed Altemus
Re: FLUXLIST: Peculiar Goings On
Is it a virus or is it Memorex? It is, unfortunately, a virus so don't open it. But I''m working on it. Did you get the bad karma poems I sent you for the FLUXLIST poetry compilation? RA - Original Message - From: Roger Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:41 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Peculiar Goings On Just had a message-less e-mail from Reed which tried to download itself Virus? Or genuine. I deleted it. reed - tell me... XXXPercy NP Wonderwall
Re: FLUXLIST: does fluxus exist? a simplistic appraoch...., 2
Wow, I guess I must be Post Nothing then. Well, at least I *try* to post nothing. Sometimes it doesn't work and I have to Post Something, which is never my intention in the first place. But once I'm Post Something I feel like I'm working in a tradition or Something and the best thing to do in that event is to do Something Else and not go with my initial intention. Doing Something Else is very Fluxus I think. Wasn't it John Cage who said Ï have nothing to say and I am saying it and that is poetry. But I ruminate... Ciao, RA - Original Message - From: Anne Drogyness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: does fluxus exist? a simplistic appraoch, 2 on 11/27/01 8:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although it's always tempting to add prefixes where ever possible, putting post on wouldn't really help. Yes, they add to the problem of understanding what the root word was originally. I just like post- because it doesn't describe the work itself, it just mentions what it follows. Which doesn't help to define either, but then that's what I was saying anyway! I like the abstraction that terminology can have on particular already-vague notions... coming to a consensus seems like wishful thinking for something like Fluxus, and to me, maybe a little contradictory! To say something is post-fluxus would imply that those involved are thinking differently, or using different methods. Not necessarily... post-feminism, while silly, is a term which is often applied to the more open-ended discussions following heavy feminist discourse in universities and academic journals. I've seen post-Duchampian used not for movements, but to describe works of those using Duchampian concepts in a more contemporary context... So the term post- can be applied to the conditions around the works themselves, or simply to say that people are less organised or harder to pinpoint. Now re- is a charming prefix, which could come in handy. I prefer re- to neo-, which I've always thought was a little sil
FLUXLIST: Nam June Paik in Artforum magazine
Just FYI, in case you haven't already found it, there is an article on Nam June Paik in the "Best of 2001"issue which jus came out. His audio works have been made availableby Sub Rosa (which if I remember correctly is a Belgian label, anyway) It's titled "Nam June Paik, Works 1958-79". Interesting that it discusses the fact that Paik was opposed to Maciunas' Flynt'sfamous picketing of the"Originale" and actually dissociated himself from Fluxus as a result only to rejoin later. RA
Re: FLUXLIST: mail art/anthrax scare
Any thoughts? This kind of thing was all the rage in mail art in the 70's. I think one Canadian artist sent the parts of an entire VW bus through the mail. In the 90's the postal authorities really restricted what you could send and what you couldn't so that it wasn't possible to do those kinds of funthings anymore. Seems like they've been easing restrictions lately. RA
Re: FLUXLIST: mail art call
Wow, what a theme! Is New York even on the same planet as the rest of the world? If you sent a postcard to New York someone would figure out a way to mug you by mail. RA - Original Message - From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fluxlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 4:24 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: mail art call A Call for Mail-Art Open to Everyone Greetings. This e.mail is to inform you of the upcoming International Mail-Art Exhibition entitled: POSTCARDS TO NEW YORK to be held at the MACY GALLERY on the campus of Teachers College, Columbia University in the City of New York in the United States of America, from November 5th through November 16th / 2001. Please join us for the Reception on Friday, November 9th, from 4-6 PM for special performances. Title: Postcards To New York open to interpretation size: Postcards only/ no envelopes Mail: All postcards must be received through the U.S. Mail Media: All All Entries are accepted Multiple entries are encouraged There is no fee or Jury Postcards cannot be returned Names of the participants will be listed alphabetically on our web site: www.tc.columbia.edu/academic/arts/MACY.html following the exhibition Deadline: November 1/2001 Mail your Postcards to: Postcards To New York Macy Gallery Box 78 Teachers College, Columbia University 525 West 120th Street New York NY 10027 Postcards are accepted from all Artists and Non-Artists from every age group, every country, every religion and every body from every walk of life who feels they want to say something, write something, draw, paint, make or photograph something about what happened on September 11/2001 in New York. Mail Art continues to be a creative venue for collective and communal expression and global communication. If you have any additional Questions please e.mail us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We hope that you will pass this along to anyone or any organization that will be interested. Thank you for your participation. We will look forward to receiving your postcards. Yours, Kendal Kennedy Curator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FLUXLIST: Peace Island Artistamps
Petal, Really NIICCCEEE!!! artistamps... lovely. RA - Original Message - From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fluxlist [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Mancusi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dragonfly Dream [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jeff Berner [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Chickadel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; G R StraDa Da [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jane Flury [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jenny Ruley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jody Royee [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Johnny Brewton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jokie X Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lynne Davisson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stephanie Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vittore Barroni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:34 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Peace Island Artistamps http://www.geocities.com/johnheldjr/jejuislandstamps.html?1002767370770 Peace, PK
RE: FLUXLIST: letter from Sticker Dude
Thanks for posting this Petal. Reed - Original Message - From: Patricia To: Fluxlist Sent: 9/26/01 8:24:04 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: letter from Sticker Dude The following was cut and pasted from the mail art forum message board: honoria (---.ots.utexas.edu) Date: 09-27-01 00:14 I am passing this note to you at the indirect request of Joel... Sztuka Fabryka wrote on Tuesday 11th September 2001: "Hello Sticker Dude, Are you allright? Hopefully nobody of your family were victims of what happened. Wish you strength. Geert" Answer from Joel Cohen on Wednesday 26th September 2001: Of course I'm going thru a very difficult time. Ragged Edge Press is now still (and for the last two weeks) in the cordoned off are of "ground zero." Though our building has not been damaged, we have no phones , except my cell phone, no mail service and no deliveries or pick ups, including garbage. To get into the shop, only since last Thursday, we have to show proof that we work there and valid picture ID. New York has become an incredible Police State. Even so we've been able to carry on business, by working from home, other friends' print shops, and my wits and with my assistant Willie's great help. I saw the Towers burning and collapsing, with people jumping out, and the eventual collapse, from the street about a mile away. It felt like one of those Japanese Horror films I saw as a kid. I'm not scared of further attacks, but I've been depressed ever since. I'm really upset about the war fever that has swept the country. I'm so fearful that so many thousands, if not millions of people will be killed all over the world before this disease ( and I'm not sure just what to call it, maybe political AIDS) ends. Hope you're OK, And really thanks for your concern. So many people have been calling, it takes up hours a day Spread this letter as far as you can. I've been so preoccupied... Joel --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
FLUXLIST: San Francisco Trip
Just back from San Francisco... Scariest storefront signs: in Little Italy a manicure boutique called "Immortal Nails" in the Latin part a store called "Guns 'n Things" Piece for TV on a Jet While flying in a jet, tune in the big screen TV to "The King of Queens". When the female charcter talks keep the control on the English channeland when the male talks switch to the Spanish. See if this helps enhance their relationship at all. R. Altemus 09/09/01 --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
FLUXLIST: Trip to San Francisco
Hello fluxlisters, I'm headed (as they say in New England) for the San Francisco Bay Area to attend the opening of the YLEM 20th Anniversary show and will be in San Francisco September 5-9. I will have all day the 6th 7th and 8th to explore SF- I've never been to the West Coast- but I would enjoy meeting anyone on fluxlist if they have time while I'm there. Other Californians... Patricia possibly? RA --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
Re: FLUXLIST: Trip to San Francisco
Brad
I'll be there from the 6th to the 8th. Opening of the YLEM show
at the SOMARTS Gallery is 5:30-8:30 Thursday- consider yourself invited to that- we could also meet earlier or on Friday or Saturday.
I will call you this weekend.
Reed
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Re: FLUXLIST: The artification of Ono's anti-art
Anyone know offhand what the other venues are for "Yes"? I thot I heard Boston among them? RA - Original Message - From: ann klefstad To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/22/01 3:14:16 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: The artification of Ono's anti-art I saw the YES YOKO ONO show here and was underwhelmed. Much of her earlier work is precise, honed, elegant, effective. But as one goes forward in the work, it becomes ingenuous, dreamy in a way I find silly, less and less pointed, more and more naif. For someone with her brains, freedom, means, and power, I think something more can be expected--at the very least, she should have been able to ensure that the work was not enshrined and objectified, rather than conniving in this very thing. I got mad. AK Josh Ronsen wrote: Eryk Salvaggio wrote: At one point, there was the Yoko Ono Nail piece, with the hammers and a bucket of nails, which confused a seven year old girl to no end. She couldn't understand why the nails and hammers were out in the open if people weren't allowed to put nails into the canvas, on account of all of the enormous "Do Not Touch The Art" signs. It was pretty great, and probably the best critique of Yoko Ono's work I'd heard. The big Yoko Ono exhibit "YES YOKO ONO" is now showing at the Houston Contemporary Museum of Art, which I am somewhat excited to see. What I am not excited to see is how the pieces from the 60's have turned from interesting pieces of art into do-not-touch museum commodity objects. For example, I called the museum yesterday and asked if one could climb the ladder in "Celing Piece." "No, of course not," was the answer. It is a sad day when anti-art turns into art... Maybe when I go I can make my own mini version of the piece. One would climb a step-stool that had a pole attached to it. Hanging from the pole would be a string holding a magnifying glass and a little piece of paper that says "NO." -Josh Ronsen http://www.nd.org/jronsen --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
Secondly, George Maciunas did certainly not define Fluxus. To which I would reply: neither did or do you, Mr. Anderson, sir. In certain areas he defined it well enough for me. RA Reed Altemus wrote: Hey Eric, members that none of the original artists from the Flux festivalsconsidered KenFriedman to be an artist. We all saw him as an agent and promoter. Andmost of Did it ever occur to you that some people on the list don't give a flying fuckwhat "the original artists from the Flux festivals" think? In addition, what the hell havethe original aritstsfrom the Flux festivals ever done for me (besides, in your case,parading a kind of juvenile popularity contest on this list which I find very amusingconsidering that it was Ken and Dick Higgins who, with others, started the list)So Ken Friedman is a sociologist and not an artist, what's the big deal? Since I've foundhis past activities under the Fluxus banner interesting, why should I feel a need foryour or anyone else's "Fluxus" seal of approval. Besides, Eric, it was Maciunas whosaid that t! ! he artist should eventually be replaced by the Fluxworker, someone who hasemployment in another field (like sociology or folklorism or whatever) but who does Fluxus asan avocation. Artists were to be retrained for socially constructive rather than parasitic work. RA--- Reed Altemus--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
Hey, you're the one who brought up the "definition" problem, not me! Thought you were gonna slip that past me eh? No, of course no one defined Fluxus, from what I understand the less defined it was the harder it was for anyone to coopt it- for me it remains an attitude, not an ism. I think George Brecht once said "Everybody has their own idea of what Fluxus is. That way it will take longer for them to bury us." So no, it is not so strange to me that there is no definition of Fluxus. RA Of course, nobody defined it. Why is that so strange? Reed Altemus wrote: Secondly, George Maciunas did certainly not define Fluxus. To which I would reply: neither did or do you, Mr. Anderson, sir. In certain areas he defined it well enough for me. RA Reed Altemus wrote: Hey Eric, members that none of the original artists from the Flux festivalsconsidered KenFriedman to be an artist. We all saw him as an agent and promoter. Andmost of Did it ever occur to you that some people on the list don't give a flying fuckwhat "the original artists from the Flux festivals" think? In addition, what the hell havethe original aritstsfrom the Flux festivals ever done for me (besides, in your case,parading a kind of juvenile popularity contest on this list which I find very amusingconsidering that it was Ken and Dick Higgins who, with others, started the list)So Ken Friedman is a sociologist and not an artist, what's the big deal? Since I've foundhis past activities under the Fluxus banner interesting, why should I feel a need foryour or anyone else's "Fluxus" seal of approval. Besides, Eric, it was Maciunas whosaid that t! ! ! ! he artist should eventually be replaced by the Fluxworker, someone who hasemployment in another field (like sociology or folklorism or whatever) but who does Fluxus asan avocation. Artists were to be retrained for socially constructive rather than parasitic work. RA--- Reed Altemus--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]--- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
RE: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted
i have to compile a (predominantly Fluxus related) mailing list for a gallery the trouble is, i've never done this before and i'm not really sure where to start does anyone have any helpful suggestions? I would be most grateful! Well, Alan, you've caught me at an opportune moment. I've just finished compiling an address list for my Post Flux and International Copy Art Archive, it's about 250 addresses and some I think might not be so useful, but I have them in Microsoft Word for Windows address label format (Avery 5160 I think). I bet this is small potatoes compared to some of the mamouth lists I've heard about. Let me know what exactly you're using them for and I'll edit and email them to you. RA --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
FLUXLIST: RE: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #755
blockquote type=cite citePedro et al:br Sorry to take so long to respond further to this matter - I've been on a retreat (during which I took a field trip to the Sackner Archive of Concrete and Visual Poetry in /Miami Beach) - but as to defining What visual poetry is, that's a tough one.nbsp; I tend to think of it as anything in which there is a visual element to the work (that is, SEEING it is part of the experience).nbsp; That, however, could well include John, you have to SEE the text of a novel also. Of course your eye movements are rather restricted, but still... the most important thing about visual poetry for me, and this is quite subjective, is that it calls for a different kind of reading (reader). Alternative eye movements and page scanning are often required. One has to decide where to start and where to go next and how to scan the poem. Visual poetry often allows for multiple readings (and here we arrive at your ambiguity again though it is more a graphic ambiguity than a semantic one). What I found interesting was a recent post about your new book on the poetry list which called your poetry concrete. Really? I mean the line by line oriented things are read like conventional poetry right to left etc. and your visual pieces with the repeated rubberstamp borders and the calligraphy don't seem to me to be particularly concrete. On the contrary they seem very abstract- not poetry where language-qua-language is presented for its own sake... almost all poetry, so I think it also includes a quality of the work which makes it in one way or another totemic and/or talismanic.nbsp; That is, its physical presence is part of the thing; it's not just quot;abstractquot; like a purely linguistic artifact Could you define or make clear what you mean by a linguistic artifact? And absract. So what you're saying is that in visual poetry language is treated as visual material for its own sake, i.e. it tends toward the concrete... That's useful, yet doesn't cut much out.br It seems that most quot;non-visual poetryquot; could be experienced aurallybr and not visually without losing too much.br Would you agree with that?br There is some visual poetry which is BOTH visual and aural but it is so difficult to do that it happens rarely. Since this is FLUXLIST I would like to point out that visual poetry is intermedia- the area between visual art and poetry in the same way that sound poetry is the intermedium between music and poetry and Alan Bowman's hexidecimal poems are the intermedium between computer programming and poetry. I find looking at visual poetry using Dick Higgins' poetry intermedia chart amazingly clarifying in an area which is theory and criticism-impoverished. RA Oh, apologies to John Held and his family and friends for trashing John in my last posting. --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
FLUXLIST: RE: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #751
-- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:24:05 -0400 From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: visual poetry Pedro et al: Sorry to take so long to respond further to this matter - I've been on a retreat (during which I took a field trip to the Sackner Archive of Concrete and Visual Poetry in /Miami Beach) - John, I envy you having been able to visit the Sackners' archive- I had just been asking John Held what was up with them... he said they were trying to sell their collection, but I suspect this was just another of John's I'm-trying- to-make-myself-look-important-by-starting-rumours-about-something-I-have-no- clue-about responses. Which brings me to the question- so what actually IS going on with the Sackners? I remember in the early 90's some of the older mailartists I met were bemoaning the fact that they could no longer count on the Sackners to buy their work, that the well had run dry so to speak. I'm not so concerned about money, only whether they are still collecting work or is the collection closed? Also, Pedro et al. one really great publication in which some folks tried to get at defining the whole area of visual poetry is the survey/book called CORE: A Symposium on Visual Poetry edited by John Byrum (Generator) and Crag Hill (SCORE) around 1993. You can get it (as I did) from John Byrum for $15 + $2 postage from Generator/3503 Virginia Ave./Cleveland/OH/44109. Highly recommended. RA but as to defining What visual poetry is, that's a tough one. I tend to think of it as anything in which there is a visual element to the work (that is, SEEING it is part of the experience). That, however, could well include almost all poetry, so I think it also includes a quality of the work which makes it in one way or another totemic and/or talismanic. That is, its physical presence is part of the thing; it's not just abstract like a purely linguistic artifact is. The Sackner archive is AMAZING - there's nothing else like it anywhere. Onword, John
FLUXLIST: RE: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #748
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FLUXLIST: John Bennett on FLUXLIST
Hi all, There have been some complaints about the volume and frequency of John's posting his work to FLUXLIST and a faction has given him notice and asked him to cease and desist. While I agree that no one should be allowed to use FLUXLIST to disemminate their own work if it becomes a situation of the majority reading one person who dominates the bandwidth for his/her own purposes, I would just like to point out why I think John's poetry belongs on FLUXLIST and why the splinter faction might reconsider their position and try to come to some compromise re: John's participation. John Bennett is the Lautreamont of mail art. His magazine The Lost and Found Times is a shining example of a democratic editorship which translates Joseph Beuys' proposition that Everyone is an artist. into a new channel where Everyone is a poet. I got interested in poetry because of John's magazine. When I first received it I was fascinated and amused at a piece of printed matter that represented so many voices all playing the same game which was The Lost and Found Times. It was a community all joined together by John in the same way that Fluxus was a group all joined together by George M. I would just like to ask the so-called faction group to reconsider their request and to begin a dialogue so that somehow an agreement can be reached as to how John can continue to participate in FLUXLIST without some feeling that he is using it to promote his own work only. Also, one must take into account that poetry is what poets do. Maybe he could post larger installments less frequently or just cut back to an acceptable volume for the rest of the list? Reed Altemus --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
FLUXLIST: RE: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #698
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FLUXLIST: John Cage Talking casette
Hello all, I have a copy of a casette tape of John Cage being interviewed and talking on music and politics in Germany circa 1975, called John Cage Talking on S-Press Tapes. First interested person to send me $10US and enough postage to get it there($.76 domestic $1.50 overseas) gets it. Reed Altemus/16 Blanchard Rd./Cumberland Ctr./ME/ 04021-9598/USA --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
Writing through John Bennett (RE: FLUXLIST: Fogo)
This is a writing through of some of John Bennet's poems posted here to FLUXLIST. The way they were generated was by rolling dice to select how many words to skip before the first useable word. So on the first one you can see I rolled a two, then five, then a ten and so on. I kept the lines to the length of the sampled poem usually three or four words. Wen I reached the end of the poem I simply cycled back through again.I wrote through each of these two poems separately-worked on the first stanza first, then moved down to the second stanza. I counted the title as the first word. There will be more, since I have already worked on other of John's posts and written through them. Basically, this is a scaled down version of Cage's Writing through Finnegan's Wake except the system used (dice) is much simpler than using the I Ching, call it a poor man's chance operations. Reed BTW I have already collaborated with JB by writing through in the snail mail. oh clacking plow b (shuffle pages plate her roof grease the like that all cluster mouth lank thought clutter wake, sand all dinner 'n clod stone diner grabbed table yr black turn, with recession groomed the wriggling. lipless was Black gleaming wriggling dripping oh fogo at a name yr yr clod, roof the on shining 'n my the spooned shuffle below door mouth your was clacking regazes plate fire! stone lips outside stream tooth tongue with hand around plow eyes Reed Altemus4/30/01 [Original Message] From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/30/01 12:18:27 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Fogo clod sand oh the diner plate cluster clutter clacking was yr lipless mouth groomed like stone 'n grabbed her plow wake, all that wriggling. b lank turn, roof recession, table black with thought grease (shuffle all the dinner pages Fogo shuffle eyes 'n lips yr black tooth regazes at my roof gleaming below the wriggling tongue was that a plow dripping on the door stone? name outside yr mouth spooned with gravel clacking stream around yr plate oh shining clod, hand your fire! John M. Bennett --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
FLUXLIST: VISITING ARTIST Geoffrey Hendricks at ICA in Portland ME
[Original Message] From: Cranky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mr. Flux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/23/01 7:02:05 PM Subject: [Fwd: Fw: VISITING ARTIST Geoffrey Hendricks] Reed, Thought I'd pass this on in case you didn't already know about it. -FT - Original Message - From: Jean Twomey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Fwd: VISITING ARTIST Geoffrey Hendricks The Isabel Pease Visiting Artist Series at the Maine College of Art presents... Geoffrey Hendricks will present a video and slide lecture on his work Thursday April 26, 2001 at 6:00pm at the ICA. Geoffrey Hendricks, who Dick Higgins referred to as Cloudsmith, has been active in Fluxus since the mid-sixties, becoming ordained Flux Minister for Fluxus father George Maciunas' wedding to Billie Hutching (an event that took place in the Emily Harvey gallery space in l978) and later his funeral. As professor of Art at Rutgers University, where he has taught since l956, his encouragement of exploration in intermedia and performance art with his students is renowned. A dominant theme in Hendricks' installation and performance work is the confluence of his ancestral roots and nature. Between Two Points / Fra Due Poli (l974) and Headstands for Santa Barbara in front of the Royal Palace, Oslo, Norway, (l994) are two examples. Bookworks and publishing have been consistently interfaced with his work in painting and performance, along with, his collaborative work with his partners: Bici (Forbes) Hendricks a.k.a. Nye Ffarrabas, The Friday Book of White Noise (l964-65) and their Flux Divorce(1971); Stephen Varble, Equinox (l972); Brian Buczak, Tronco (l977); and most recently his wedding to Sur Rodney (Sur) during a Happening finale for Al Hansen's memorial event at Judson Memorial Church (l995). Hendricks has performed and participated in numerous exhibitions worldwide. In l992, as part of the 30th anniversary of Fluxus, this included A la Carte at Nikolaj Kirke in Copenhagen, Denmark, Da Capo in Wiesbaden, Germany, The Seoul of Fluxus in Seoul, Korea, Fluxus Virus in Cologne and Munich Germany, Fluxers in Bolzano, Italy, as well as the exhibition In the Spirit of Fluxus, organized by the Walker Arts Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota. In l993-94 a retrospective of Hendricks' work Day into Night, organized by Brandts Klædefabrik, Odense, Denmark, traveled to museums in Scandinavia and Poland. Recent solo exhibitions include Rites of Passage, at Articule in Montreal, Canada (1997) surveying more than 25 years of his performances, The Sky is Falling, Il Cielo Sta Cadendo, (1997) an exhibition of his objects with sky at Galleria Caterina Gualco in Genoa, Italy; Sky Notes: 1-22 at the Emily Harvey Gallery, in SoHo (1999); Sky Measures at Galerie Inge Baecker in Cologne, Germany (1999), and in 2000, Constellations, at Galleria Caterina Gualco, and Question: A Circle? at Galerie Pro Arte in Hallein, Austria. Hendricks maintains residences in New York City and Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia, Canada. Please join us for this free lecture. The Geoffrey Hendricks Lecture is sponsored by the Isabel Pease Visiting Artist Fund and the MECA painting department. - Sean Foley Assistant Professor of Painting Maine College of Art 97 Spring Street Portland, ME 04101 207.879.5742. ext. 252 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
RE: FLUXLIST: New Interviews online
Ruud I was glad to see that Jonathan Stangroom finished his interview. Yes, we used to disagree A LOT about copier art, but as I've come closer to bridging my own gap between art life I realize that maybe I didn't uderstand what he was trying to do with it. A lot of DADA/FLUXUS stuff is "boring" but it's only to (as the Buddhists say) "wake us up" to life. Anyway, good job the color graphics of his work were wonderful too. Did you ever finish your interview with Juergen O. Olbrich? Hope yr well. All the best, Reed Altemus [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/10/01 8:12:57 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: New Interviews online Dear Friends, on the interviews-section of my site I included two more interviews. If you are interested, have a look at: http://www.geocities.com/iuoma/interview.html with best wishes, Ruud Janssen (TAM) --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
RE: FLUXLIST: new project/site
Owen This is really well done. As a person who has a fetish about cast-off objects I found it very refreshing. Thanks. RA [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Owen Smith) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/7/01 5:17:35 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: new project/site For those of you who might be interested I just uploaded a new documentation site for a project that I worked on last year, called the Canned Chance Project: http://www.altarts.org/tstcn/index.html Part of the project was connected to my participation in the Fluxlist Timepieces project. For those of you who have slow connections the site might be a little slow because of some of the image sizes. I would be interested in any and all responses. . . . . Owen --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
Re: FLUXLIST: VisitOften
Ann I'll keep you posted... RA [Original Message] From: ann klefstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/5/01 2:25:28 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: VisitOften Hello, Reed. Let me know how the self-education project goes. I'll be doing similar things this fall, enrolling in school that is, as well as trying to put together a website with the knowledge acquired. . . . Feeling a bit old and tired, I'm glad to know that fresh embarkations are happening. AK Reed Altemus wrote: Hello Fluxlist folks, Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm back on Fluxlist having secured a new (old) computer and jumped through all the hoops to get it reconnected. Patricia: John wrote and told me about this new site you put up for him (or put up with him) and I had a good look at it the other day. It's looks very substantial and will probably be very good for him. I liked seeing all the old John Held Jr. stuff as well as more recent projects. Congrats to John. Myself I will be taking a course in web design this spring through the adult ed program in Portland and plan to put up my own webpage (finally!) myself. The idea of paying someone (or even letting a friend) design a website for me goes against my basci DIY ethic. Nice job! RA [Original Message] From: Patricia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 4/5/01 4:00:34 AM Subject: FLUXLIST: VisitOften Very informative, (bookmark and visit from time to time for updates) if I do so myself (err, the royal ourselves, Rrose, Vladimir. et Moi [what the former felines have little in writing skills is later (latter?) made up in choreography) Actually, I think this should be in reverse, but, whatever.. http://www.geocities.com/johnheldjr/ PK --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. --- Reed Altemus --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.
Re: FLUXLIST: coal age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDoo
David Thanks for posting this I enjoyed it a lot. The only things I've read by Eric Basso were things he sent to "Blackbird" magazine. Those I found intriguing. RA David Baptiste Chirot wrote: 25/10/00 pastel afternoon coal-age poem: BASSO POEFrOUNDo a score for two or more voices Undergound behind rockface not far from ravine down with nothing between fallen place, singular wildness stratum after stratum level by level aspect dreary, degraded Babylon Rusted shade of fog sockets of dust ruins chaotic strewn wreck gigantic tracks in dirt Promonontory Wall no art detected shapeless intermingled marl fierce dream of roof-struts mercurial insomnias granulated traces desolate sight immense Eyelids holes pouring long eyes on desert elsewhere found immediate distant view several vigil skull as basin mist into silhouette concealment proceeded threading route rushed time shadow recedes vanishing trees keep going thrown from precipice cast aside order minutes pass roving light without light firing quick purpose ever killing masters one who sits on edge one who listens never rapidly had reality dead in contemplation words arranged from one page each: THE BEAK DOCTOR by Eric BASSO THE NARRATIVE OF ARTHUR GORDON PYM by Edgar Allan POE
Re: Fwd: Re: FLUXLIST: Lumpy Air, or Fluxus e-mail poems
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Re: FLUXLIST: horses
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Re: FLUXLIST: Fw: For Immediate Release!
Sol all I had a look at this book at St. Marks Bookstore while I was in New York. It's a big silver coffee table-type and it's priced at only $60 which I thought was a great deal. Having just bought a copy of "Grapefruit" though I didn't feel the book Jones as much and didn't buy it. RA Sol Nte wrote: Hi all, Received this group mailing from Francie Schwartz the other day on Yoko Ono's new book. Thought you'd all be interested in the personal perspective of this mail, Francie and Yoko have been friends since the sixties when they met via their respective relationships with Lennon and McCartney. cheers, Sol. --- -Original Message- From: Francie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07 October 2000 16:51 Subject: For Immediate Release! YES YOKO ONO (Abrams/Japan Society, 2000) I come to YES YOKO ONO from a long, personal relationship to the Artist. But let's keep it real: I heard of the CUT PIECE when it was announced and after it was performed because I was a recent college graduate with a minor in Art History, and the Arts section was the first thing I grabbed in the New York Times. I happened to be living in NY from 1966-68 and again from 1979-81. I had had no direct contact with Yoko for nearly 31 years. More about that (contact) later. My copy of YES YOKO ONO arrived via Federal Express last week, and the moment I cut away the different coloured layers of bubble wrap I nearly gasped as if the thing were radioactive and glowing like something in a John Sayles movie. The following night I went through the sections again and the Indexes and Bibliography and Footnotes. It was like an acid trip for me. I own hundreds of art books, and this is the best I've ever had. Do I say this because the subject is also my friend? I don't know; I'm just doing it. It is also a fine teaching text on the avant garde movement in post-war America. It acknowledges influences graciously. The Lennon factor is in proper balance. This is a book about the woman of whom John Lennon once said, "She's the most famous unknown artist in the world." YES YOKO ONO *is* the art of Yoko Ono as well as her poetry, music, and instruction pieces. She is also a woman, perhaps the most maligned woman now living on this planet. How does a woman work through the oceans of negativity flowing toward her for decades? Making art can help. In the first moment of my own relationship to Yoko, (May 1968) I didn't associate the artist I'd read about in the New York Times -- the woman who sat on the stage at Carnegie Recital Hall and let people cut pieces of her clothing off -- with the tiny figure off in the corner of Abbey Road studios. When John introduced me to her, I was immediately struck by the truth: these two were well matched. I found them both beautiful. I still cannot think of them separately; they are JohnandYoko henceforth and forever to me. If only... Receiving YES is a heady thing. Just as John found Yoko via the tiny YES at the top of the ladder, you may find her in the pages of this sumptuous and thoroughly classy "coffee table book" (I would never put it on my coffee table. Might get coffee on it). SMILE FILM (#5 Apple, soon to be available) is the only Ono film I've seen from its inception. The unedited film came out of the lab when JohnandYoko were staying at "ours" (Paul's house). The sound of John's voice asking: Where's the projector?, the unrolling of the great old movie screen on its tripod legs, the projector just the same sort of sixteen millimeter projector my family had back home in New Jersey, it's all intact. I don't remember who did what, but one of these two odd new boyfriends of ours got the job done. We rolled the film. Paul sat back in the Daddy chair, slumped down with his Scotch and Coke. John and Yoko screened the silent smile. In memory, it was only one long shot, but it was truly a story told in John's face, in superslomo. I was digging it. In the background I hear Yoko saying "They have so much to get over. They have to get over the subject. They have to get over who the artist is. Then the relationship between the artist and the subject... Do you think I should put in the bird sound?" Then John says "Oh it's fine as it is dear, let's go to bed!" They were almost like an old married couple, endearing young charms dancing in their eyes. This is one of my most precious memories. I to give it away, the way you do with priceless things. In 1968, neither Yoko nor I had any idea these guys were going to be remembered in great detail thirty years on. We were just two young women trying to live with two guys. Yoko Ono, always focused and always productive, did not slow her fountain of ideas just because she fell in love with John. Until I had my YES, I had no idea that during that spring and summer, Yoko had several shows in different countries. I did attend the first show she did jointly with
Re: FLUXLIST: anagrams forI love Fluxus
Owen Great- I love this poem almost as much as I love Fluxus itself. EVIL FUX SOUL- terrific! Bests, RA Owen Smith wrote: FIVE LULU SOX FIVE SOUL LUX OLIVE FLU SUX OLIVE FLUX US LEVIS FUX LOU LEVI FOUL SUX LEVI FLU OX US LEVI OF LUX US LEVI FUX SOUL LIVE FOUL SUX LIVE FLU OX US LIVE OF LUX US LIVE FUX SOUL VEIL FOUL SUX VEIL FLU OX US VEIL OF LUX US VEIL FUX SOUL EVIL FOUL SUX EVIL FLU OX US EVIL OF LUX US EVIL FUX SOUL VILE FOUL SUX VILE FLU OX US VILE OF LUX US VILE FUX SOUL VISE FOUL LUX VISE FLUX LOU VISE FOX LULU VIE FULL OX US VIE FLO LUX US VIE FLU LUX SO VIE FLUX SOUL I'VE FULL OX US I'VE FLO LUX US I'VE FLU LUX SO I'VE FLUX SOUL LOVE IF LUX US LOVE FLU I SUX LOVE FLU XI US LOVE FLUX I US LOVE FUX LUIS VEX IF LULU SO VEX SOULFUL I VEX FOUL LUIS VEX FLU I SOUL VEX FLU OIL US VEX FLU LOUIS VEX FLU IS LOU VEX OF IS LULU Owen (EVIL FUX SOUL) Smith
Re: FLUXLIST: Alison Knowles
Patricia all Acctually, I'll be seeing the Alison Knowles show at the end of this coming week because I'm headed for New York 10/12-15. I will post my impressions to the list. Her Proposition #1 and Giveaway Construction are two of my favorite event scores, but I gather the show at EHG is collage works. Reed Patricia wrote: post something provokative about Fluxus Reed Alison Knowles has a show opening at Emily Harvey gallery tonight. I've sent for the accompanying book but don't have it yet. Some of you know her, and most of you know more about her than I do. How about posting some takes on or info. about A. Knowles or experiences with same. Best, PK
Re: FLUXLIST: FluxGrumps
Melissa Sorry, I was having a bad day. Or maybe I was jealous? Who can say? Kissing is fun but I am from New England and have one of those demeanors, sometimes being warm is hard when the weather is always so damn cold- duly noted though- the same remark has been made in the past of me. I actually prefer a woman who excels at spooning- goes with the geographic location. Reed Melissa McCarthy wrote: Word Play for Reed Altemus Grumply flux. Fluxly grump. Kissy-face pooh-pooh! Grumpy fluxy Fluxy grumpy. Pooh-pooh kissy-face! Flumpy gruxus. Lumpy gravy makes me grumpy, Gives me flux. Serious? Delerious! Be of good cheerious! Have no fearious! Kiss-kiss, both cheeks, (left and right, not top and bottom, you!) European style. Melissa Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: mail-interview with Norman Solomon
Ruud Are you still distributing hard-copies of the Mail Interviews? I'm interested in getting copies of the Ken Friedman and Jurgen Olbrich interviews. Are those available online? RA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just published the mail-interview with Norman Solomon (Mr. Postcards). He was a good friend of Ray Johnson in his New York 50ies years. Norman died on August 1st 2000, so the interview was broken of because of his death. Ruud Janssen interview at: http://www.geocities.com/iuoma/postcard.html
Re: FLUXLIST: FluxGrumps
David Baptiste Chirot wrote: but then being new englanders reed-- what goes on in nyc is of little interest at all! Very true. I'm going there anyways... too much going on close to home to be sure melissa is in new hampshire--so she may also be untypical new englander of the old school! in milwaukee people are very warm--and most fads never make it here--they die on the way! kind of nice--that way people just going on looking whatever way and acting what ever way they choose-- when i first moved here was very suspicious as people so friendly--being from new england was always wondering--what's the angle? Yeah, I'm originally from Pennsylvania, but through a time in Massachusetts and then 25 years in Maine I've become a New Englander and I grew to love it. Actually, I can be very warm but only when I'm being very sincere. RA
Re: FLUXLIST: Serious Silly
Hey, Would you two stop making kissy-face and post something provokative about Fluxus Reed Devon Paulson wrote: Patricia, Hey, things have been slow here because of my exorbant amount of work from school already, and we don't get our studios until the end of the week. Things have been very essay-esque around the ol' school yard. I don't mind it, it's just because I haven't hade a second to do my own work. Actually, today was the first time I had to work own my own work. But I am rambling, so I'll go. But I also wanted to thank you (and this is where the "silly" comes in) for your kisses and hugs at the bottom of the page. I said it once and I'll say it again, GR! XXOO Disco From: Patricia What to do to keep going? Well, we could designate - think there was a Python bit about political nomenclature - we could preface each message with "silly" "serious" "discussion group," performance, blue, green, whatever. xxoo Princess Petal _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: FLUXLIST: response to Bertrand
Bertrand What do you think of Postface/JB as a history of Fluxus? What do you think of Dick Higgins' theater pieces? What about the "Danger Music" series- interesting? RA Bertrand et Claudia CLAVEZ wrote: Reed Altemus wrote How about: yes, I have several books by Something Else: Anthology of Concrete Poetry, Annotated Topography of Chance, FOEW, and Jefferson's Birthday/Postface. I have just finished reading all of them, anyone else read any of these and would like to start a discussion about any of them? Reed I own myself some others: Games at the Cedilla, a primer of Happenings, Four suits, and some of the one you have (FOEW, Jefferson's birthday). My edition of annotated topography of chance is a french one (I think it's from Lebeer Hossman ed., so it's belgian, like my "ample food"). And yes, I would like to start a discussion about any of them (and particularly Postface, who is fascinating me) Bertrand
Re: FLUXLIST: Fake Ray Johnson Weekend, Columbus Ohio 9/15-18/00
Melissa all The best piece, in my opinion was one rubber stamp by the New York mailartist Mark Bloch which said "LACKS WIT". I didn't really see anything unusual- it was the usual global collage of crap. Mail art does not inspire me any more. It's been done and done- the only thing that matters is whatever is happening in my mail box at any given time and how it influences my life. Seeing 350 hommages to Ray Johnson, 350 visual puns, 350 double entendres, etc. holds little charm for me these days. I did enjoy meeting people though. Reed Melissa McCarthy wrote: Reed, thanks for sharing all this with the list I don't know about anyone else, but I'm jealous! All that mail art! All that food! Can you post details about some of the more inspiring pieces of mail art? What was the strangest thing you saw? Speak! MElissa Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
