Re: FLUXLIST: Re: New subscription process not nice
René Girard's book (in french le Bouc émisaire) is worth reading (as many of Girard's books) but in fact what was underlined by the reaction I had, as I think it was the case with one of Tamas' lasts posts, is not the question of expelling this one or the other (it became obvious at one pointthat the Death Monster had to be expelled), it's the way it have been done: Tamas proposed to vote the expulsions (as he always asked for before K. exclusion's in similar cases, as for Genius 2000 if I remember well) and note to leave to a solely decider, even someone as ponderate and balanced as Allen is. This method has some obvious advantages: first, the decision is collective, so noone is to become the scapegoat for having taken it, second, it maintains a strong concern between the list members on what's happening on the list, third it avoids opinions to degenerate into personal flames by the collective controlallowed through the vote. The list owners/administrators could easily count the votes (yes/no/abstention) and give the result, as anyone else on the list could do. I'm sure that the provocative and critical of expressing himself didn't facilitate the understanding of Tamas' opinion, but I would like to say that Tamas lives in Bulgary, is from a generation that endured the soviet socialism and the "democratic centralism"(which, as everyone knows, was anything but democratic), and have been active as an artist under these conditions. This is no excuse, but somehow, explains his attachment to a democratic way of taking decision. Why not try to develop his idea for the next exclusion(s)? Bertrand BTW, where is Joseph Y(v)es? I haven't read anything from him since K.'s exclusion. Did he resigned,or was expelledtoo? A listmember I've met a few days ago, thought K./Y(v)es could be the same person, playing a game on the list. Any clue about this possibility? Joseph, if you're still here, please, say something... And Armadill0 (apparently a resurgence of the Death monster, from the style used) was he expelled too? I missed that one, if his expulsion post came to the list.
Fw: FLUXLIST: Re: New subscription process not nice
- Original Message - From: Bertrand Clavez To: Fluxlist Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:07 PM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: New subscription process not nice René Girard's book (in french le Bouc émisaire) is worth reading (as many of Girard's books) but in fact what was underlined by the reaction I had, as I think it was the case with one of Tamas' lasts posts, is not the question of expelling this one or the other (it became obvious at one pointthat the Death Monster had to be expelled), it's the way it have been done: Tamas proposed to vote the expulsions (as he always asked for before K. exclusion's in similar cases, as for Genius 2000 if I remember well) and note to leave to a solely decider, even someone as ponderate and balanced as Allen is. This method has some obvious advantages: first, the decision is collective, so noone is to become the scapegoat for having taken it, second, it maintains a strong concern between the list members on what's happening on the list, third it avoids opinions to degenerate into personal flames by the collective controlallowed through the vote. The list owners/administrators could easily count the votes (yes/no/abstention) and give the result, as anyone else on the list could do. I'm sure that the provocative and critical of expressing himself didn't facilitate the understanding of Tamas' opinion, but I would like to say that Tamas lives in Bulgary, is from a generation that endured the soviet socialism and the "democratic centralism"(which, as everyone knows, was anything but democratic), and have been active as an artist under these conditions. This is no excuse, but somehow, explains his attachment to a democratic way of taking decision. Why not try to develop his idea for the next exclusion(s)? Bertrand BTW, where is Joseph Y(v)es? I haven't read anything from him since K.'s exclusion. Did he resigned,or was expelledtoo? A listmember I've met a few days ago, thought K./Y(v)es could be the same person, playing a game on the list. Any clue about this possibility? Joseph, if you're still here, please, say something... And Armadill0 (apparently a resurgence of the Death monster, from the style used) was he expelled too? I missed that one, if his expulsion post came to the list.
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Hi, have just managed to plough through inbox to clear backlog, Interesting stuff. I love the box thing sounds great and would love to be involved if possible. Is there any selection involved? How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy? As a new subscriber myself would be sad to lose others who want to subscribe to list, but impressed by integrity and seriousness of everyone involved in censorship issue. Things have become more interesting with something positive to focus on (the box). Liked the proposed guidelines for new subscribers and would also be interested in more info about existing subscribers. I know Im new here so maybe I shouldnt get involved, but was wondering if we could do a quick online version of flux box, with everyone e mailing a copy of their work to the list? Also was interested in the seed thing Brad was writing about. Can you tell me more? I have been making a work involving seeds in gelatin medicine capsules, and if it all works can post one to you. Happy new year, zoe _ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: New subscription process not nice
Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and black undertow. She was a bloodsucker and sought, or didn't seek but effected, by an entropicizing presence and Joseph's (intentionally or not) act of becoming her scapegoat/alter-ego, to deprive everyone of a legitimate voice. This is not what was happening. Loosing a legitimate voice (sans violence) is a self-inflicted misery and fear of such happening is an insecurity (note that this is an opinion derived through inner reflection and as such, since I do not KNOW ultimate truth, is probably subjective). joseph donna www.electrichands.com joseph franklyn mcelroy corporate performance artist www.corporatepa.com go shopping - http://www.electrichands.com/shopindex.htm call me 646 279 2309 SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER CUPCAKEKALEIDOSCOPE - send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting Kathy Forer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 12:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks to NONE of you folks I finally figured out how to attach others email to mine, another step to being less annoying. I have no idea what you mean about a scapegoat. All I know is that the nazis wanted things nice and clean and artists werent exactly included in that group-were they? The Church plays its game/ other groups and clubs play their games and if you dont want to play the game you start your own- I understand that, but since this is my game-or so I thought- I thought I could have an effect and/or a voice. So far I cant believe Bertrand and I are the only ones dubious- maybe we were always the last ones picked for kickball-madawg madawg, since you so effectively figured out how to quote/attach an email, and the one you chose was mine, I suppose that makes me batter up to try to elucidate, or more likely bowdlerize, what I said and meant. The history of scapegoating is long and rich and you're picked on a couple of the most grievously terrible incidences. A friend of mine, an atheist son of Dutch missionaries, speaks of a theory about religion as a system of scapegoating. There's a book about it, http://tinyurl.com/45u9, Things Hidden Since the Foundation of the World, by Rene Girard, Michael Metteer (Translator), Stephen Bann (Translator). I labeled the happening on the list by the zaphod 42 death kandy person as an overt act of scapegoating. zaphod beetlebrox is a mass nemesis and black undertow. She was a bloodsucker and sought, or didn't seek but effected, by an entropicizing presence and Joseph's (intentionally or not) act of becoming her scapegoat/alter-ego, to deprive everyone of a legitimate voice. You'd say the sky looks blue to me, and the deathbot would reply what can you little worm possibly know about the sky? Or, in reply to deathbot, why aren't you my friend? she might answer, how can you presume to know what friendship is about or especially whether it is anything that would interest us? and so on, vastly more appositive. (I didn't follow it closely.) Provoked by very little, Zaphod's deathbot slew people and made each one her scapegoat, especially the chosen one, Joey. It seemed all a little game, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, without the babelfish. Did you really want to play with Joseph and death kandi? You can email them off-list and one or another might oblige for free, though role-playing is always more fun in a public forum, and possibly likely to get sinister in private. See if Eryk knows anything. If it's a game of kickball and someone slapping kicking an impudent buddy upside the head, and everyone else starts to do the same, do you still want to play? To become a head-kicker, perhaps worse, perhaps better, but manipulated by a non-reactive substance? You'd learn about yourself in the process, for sure, but maybe a lot of us on this list just have decided that trail's been trod. Maybe we're tired. Maybe we've forgotten or never knew how to play. Maybe not. At some point a judgment is made. That doesn't mean it's a unilateral fascist judgment, more a common law to protect the community. Were we protected from ourselves? Sunday Dec 15, -IID42 Kandinskij @27+ (A) sent first post 1:21 AM EST, Eryk Salvaggio (B) said he got off the list at 2:07AM and A replied at 5:15 AM Have a nice time? At 9:20 PM joseph (yes) aka Joseph Franklyn McElroy Cor[porat]e [Per]form[ance] Art[ist] (C) responded to A's response to B and we were all suckered in, not really knowing what was some kind of private joke or conceit. It degenerated rapidly. It's fine to appreciate anarchy and even practice it, but that doesn't seem to be how fluxlist has defined itself. Fluxlist has worked on developing to a certain small degree a common standard or purpose, which takes it out of the anarchy category-list. Maybe fluxus was more anarchic http://www.angelfire.com/ak4/Forum/Beats.html, but they were also more Zen. If they were politically anarchist, they were idealistic
FLUXLIST: Re: fluxy enough?
zoe marsh wrote: How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy? If you show it to a High School art teacher or a specialist in pre-20th Century art and they say that's rubish!... you may be suitably fluxy, or fluxish. If janitors try to sweep your art off the floor, it may be suitably fluxy. If members of the audience ask, in the middle of your performance, when does it begin?, you may be suitably fluxy. If Eric Andersen emails FluxList and states that the real Fluxus artists don't think of you as an artist, then you may be suitably fluxy. But seriously, I don't think anything was rejected from the first Box for not being fluxy enough, and every piece in my box is a fluxish delight. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com
FLUXLIST: Re: altoids
My dictionary is listing some 100'000 key-words. Altoid is not one of them. Some further explanation? That's amazing! never, never prior to this praised day, so many people have replied to a mail of mine! thank you - especially to m'lore. In fact, now i remember! my mother's second husband used to buy them in france... Here for some links to the ultimate sacred altoid deciples: http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/zoink/ http://www.angelfire.com/ct3/lujs/demo-box.html (Features the following nice poem about altoid boxes): An Altoid box covered with a Balinese design Place sheet of polymer clay on cover A caulking gun fitted for clay gun Designs from the clay strings - More designs Starting a Balinese design Carfully place design on cover The start of a design on box A Balinese design on chicken egg An egg with Balinese design Balinese design on bottle georg -- Georg Birkner Dipl. Arch. ETH Roentgenstrasse 44 CH - 8005 Zürich fon: +41 (0)1 271 00 22 fax: 271 01 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxy enough?
This sounds dead on right to me! John At 09:22 AM 1/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: zoe marsh wrote: How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy? If you show it to a High School art teacher or a specialist in pre-20th Century art and they say that's rubish!... you may be suitably fluxy, or fluxish. If janitors try to sweep your art off the floor, it may be suitably fluxy. If members of the audience ask, in the middle of your performance, when does it begin?, you may be suitably fluxy. If Eric Andersen emails FluxList and states that the real Fluxus artists don't think of you as an artist, then you may be suitably fluxy. But seriously, I don't think anything was rejected from the first Box for not being fluxy enough, and every piece in my box is a fluxish delight. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com __ Dr. John M. Bennett Curator, Avant Writing Collection Rare Books Manuscripts Library The Ohio State University Libraries 1858 Neil Av Mall Columbus, OH 43210 USA (614) 292-8114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxy enough?
hey Josh, saw your Boulez project mentioned in The Wire (!)
have you had many responses so far?
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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxy enough?
a fluxy piece of mine back in 1978 was a piece of 4 mil plastic with a diagonal line drawn from the upper right hand corner to the bottom left hand corner, maybe 20-30 feet long. I drew the line just walking on top of the thing stretched out on the floor with a black magic marker then I rolled it up so that the stripe spiralled into the middle of the plastic roll and the black line gradually faded into obscurity as it went deeper and deeper toward the middle. I thought it was a great piece. I had just moved to north texas at the time and submitted the work to a museum exhibition. Later I never heard back from them and when I enquired they knew nothing of my work having been submitted and could not find it so I looked around and SURE ENOUGH it had been unrolled and used by the paint crew as a drop cloth for touching up ther walls for the exhibit! cecil Freshdot.com Web Hosting Service Host 10 domains on one account for 12.95mo (USD) Freshdot Domain Name Registrations transfers $7.75 for .com, .net and .org - 8.75 for new .biz and .info http://web-hosting.freshdot.com/ Cecil Touchon: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: John M. Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fluxy enough? This sounds dead on right to me! John At 09:22 AM 1/7/2003 -0600, you wrote: zoe marsh wrote: How do I know if my work is suitably fluxy? If you show it to a High School art teacher or a specialist in pre-20th Century art and they say that's rubish!... you may be suitably fluxy, or fluxish. If janitors try to sweep your art off the floor, it may be suitably fluxy. If members of the audience ask, in the middle of your performance, when does it begin?, you may be suitably fluxy. If Eric Andersen emails FluxList and states that the real Fluxus artists don't think of you as an artist, then you may be suitably fluxy. But seriously, I don't think anything was rejected from the first Box for not being fluxy enough, and every piece in my box is a fluxish delight. -Josh Ronsen in Austin, Texas Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com __ Dr. John M. Bennett Curator, Avant Writing Collection Rare Books Manuscripts Library The Ohio State University Libraries 1858 Neil Av Mall Columbus, OH 43210 USA (614) 292-8114 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
FLUXLIST: hAppY nEw yEARS/hello again
Happy New Years fellow fluxlist workers wanted to say hello again as not on the web for close to two years as a broadside i found on street half obscured by new fallen snow told me: HE LIVES! looking forward to participating in all the upcoming events and projects conversations THE DEAD SEE SCRAWLS onwo/ards!-- david baptiste chirot _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: hAppY nEw yEARS/hello again
ah David appears, yr timing is impeccable, just in time to serve up components to a new flux box. welcome to the new world order, post haste. mIEKAL On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 12:14 PM, David Chirot wrote: Happy New Years fellow fluxlist workers wanted to say hello again as not on the web for close to two years as a broadside i found on street half obscured by new fallen snow told me: HE LIVES! looking forward to participating in all the upcoming events and projects conversations THE DEAD SEE SCRAWLS onwo/ards!-- david baptiste chirot _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail mIEKAL aND [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dreamtimevillage.org | www.cla.umn.edu/joglars
FLUXLIST: Fw: excommunication
I thought, some fluxlisters would like to read this posts I received from Tamas. And then, I promise, I stop boring everyone with my moral concerns...but remain on Fluxlist of course. All the best, Bertrand - Original Message - From: St.Auby Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bertrand Clavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: Re: excommunication H, dear Bertrand, On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Bertrand Clavez wrote: However, I don't think that firing Kandinskij was so bad: the guy was simply damn boring and obsessive, and even not very clever. In this case I don't want to qualify Kandinskij's emils. I qualify the mode of his excommunication. I would like to make my standpoint clear for you again. The Internet seems to be the best tool of democracy. There are many researches in programming to develop the easiest and the most practical mode of vote. In the future the net will be the polling booth. The emil-list could be a kind of home-made laboratory for this type of practice. From time-to-time, since years I tried to suggest this simple idea for the Fluxlist. In vain. When Genius 2000 was excommunicated two years ago, I pressed this vote-button, but most of the members were not responding at all, only one or two list-members answered (positively). In fact almost nobody understand on the Fluxlist the easy and funny tool of decision. I don't care if Genius 2000 or Kandinskij or Eric or IPUT fits or doesn't fit to the list. What I want is: vote! Why allen bukoff decides alone? Hope the situation still can change, and I'm writing everyday to do so. Thank you. But: when I have realised that the Fluxlist is not really interesting, en plus most of the members are authoritarian (which means they don't adapt democracy), I wanted to unsubscribe, but Eric kept me back. Anyway, does it really matters, as far as, basically you disagree with the list? (though, morally, ethically, it's stupid and unfair to have done that, firing you both from the list, I mean) No, it doesn't matter at all. I am in a protest position only because they didn't vote in our cases. I don't want to be on the Fluxlist. do you allow me to pass your post on Fluxlist? Sure. But they didn't kick me out to read my embarrassing emils again. You will bring the trouble on your head! But you know what? I have been excommunicated from everywhere, even from Hungary after being arrested for Happenings, Fluxconcerts and Samizdats! That's why I could leave this country in 1975! I have not been kicked out only from the Roman Catholic Church, so I left it in 1979 in Geneva (my auto/excommunication was video-taped and shown in Rome (!) the next year). Unfortunately the tape doesn't function anymore, but maybe I have somewhere some still fotos and the sound from it). Thank you for expressed understanding. H, a
Re: FLUXLIST: hAppY nEw yEARS/hello again
Welcome back Dave Baptist! Bertrand - Original Message - From: David Chirot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: hAppY nEw yEARS/hello again Happy New Years fellow fluxlist workers wanted to say hello again as not on the web for close to two years as a broadside i found on street half obscured by new fallen snow told me: HE LIVES! looking forward to participating in all the upcoming events and projects conversations THE DEAD SEE SCRAWLS onwo/ards!-- david baptiste chirot _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: FLUXLIST: BOX IDEA metal sturdy cost nothing50 or more count
Yeah I guess the metal boxes are a bit too small for the project. I would be interested in Running the project with you as co sponsor and would be willing to pay some expenses. I have the flu for 3 days running so probably not a good idea to meet. I just wish i was better all ready this bites. If we are going to do this project we should all decide on one easily accesable container. I really loved the Adress book project and would Like to bring another project to the other members of the list. I think we can do it if we are willing to sacrafice a little. No one responded about the Cigar boxes. I think it would be pretty good because each one is different yet very consistent and inexpensive. We could combine the seed project, CD and all that together. Mabey a press clay cast from you or something easlily produced. YOu could make a press mold and just paint the unfired clay white. It would last and deteriate over time nice and fluxy. WE could come up with a certain size limit and have each person from the list contribute something, and we could assemble the boxes and mail them out. Only those who contribute get a box in return. We could get this started once a container is settled upon. then we could call for submissions. Ill call you when im better i hope no one gets this horible flu crispin --- Don Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Crispin, I think the altoids might be good for ourselves but too small for the entire group project. The cigar box sounds better. Has anyone from the list responded? Do you want to volunteer to run the project? We could be co-sponsors? Will probably get stuck with some expense. It will probably take a couple of months. I'm going to meetings for a couple of days but maybe by Wed. we could get together.-Don _ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: Date of JOining FLUXLIST
Could someone find out the date that I joined Fluxlist thanks Crispin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: altioid
SWEETIES and mints quite the treat. MY boxes contatin imitation altoids given out at a ohio state home game. QQuite nice metal boxes hinged, red and brass color inside. Mabey I could do a exchange with someone individually. crispin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: altioid
Not only do I have Altoids boxes, I have chocolate Velamints boxes too! (They're virtually the same except for the printing.) Send me a mailing address (on or off list) and a tiny tin box full of uselessness will be wending its way to you! A drag about the flu. Lots of liquids, of course, and you might try this Vitamin Water stuff in the Defense flavor (which is kind of a citrusy thing). It's full of echinacea and vitamin C, and idiotic as the whole thing sounds, it seems to have some good effect (I'm very prone to sinus and upper respiratory problems, so I know). Feel better. M -- From: Crispin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: altioid Date: Tue, Jan 7, 2003, 7:27 PM SWEETIES and mints quite the treat. MY boxes contatin imitation altoids given out at a ohio state home game. QQuite nice metal boxes hinged, red and brass color inside. Mabey I could do a exchange with someone individually. crispin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: wal mart fluxus
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Re: FLUXLIST: altioid
Crispin Webb 4 west chestnut apt # 5 mount vernon ohio 43050 give me your mailing adress and i wiill do the same full of nonsens and mabey one full of sealed treats --- meryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only do I have Altoids boxes, I have chocolate Velamints boxes too! (They're virtually the same except for the printing.) Send me a mailing address (on or off list) and a tiny tin box full of uselessness will be wending its way to you! A drag about the flu. Lots of liquids, of course, and you might try this Vitamin Water stuff in the Defense flavor (which is kind of a citrusy thing). It's full of echinacea and vitamin C, and idiotic as the whole thing sounds, it seems to have some good effect (I'm very prone to sinus and upper respiratory problems, so I know). Feel better. M -- From: Crispin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: altioid Date: Tue, Jan 7, 2003, 7:27 PM SWEETIES and mints quite the treat. MY boxes contatin imitation altoids given out at a ohio state home game. QQuite nice metal boxes hinged, red and brass color inside. Mabey I could do a exchange with someone individually. crispin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: FLUXLIST: altioid
"seal treats" little oily mackerels? no!! i'd like to join in on this one --- whoever leaves their address or sends tin-full-o-sillies on to me, will so receive similar, nonsense indeed! (no fishies though) NBB 6808 16th NE Seattle WA 98115-6841 - Original Message - From: Crispin Webb Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: altioid Crispin Webb4 west chestnut apt # 5mount vernon ohio 43050give me your mailing adress and i wiill do the samefull of nonsens and mabey one full of sealed treats--- meryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only do I have Altoids boxes, I have chocolate Velamints boxes too! (They're virtually the same except for the printing.) Send me a mailing address (on or off list) and a tiny tin box full of uselessness will be wending its way to you! A drag about the flu. Lots of liquids, of course, and you might try this Vitamin Water stuff in the Defense "flavor" (which is kind of a citrusy thing). It's full of echinacea and vitamin C, and idiotic as the whole thing sounds, it seems to have some good effect (I'm very prone to sinus and upper respiratory problems, so I know). Feel better. M -- From: Crispin Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FLUXLIST: altioid Date: Tue, Jan 7, 2003, 7:27 PMSWEETIES and mints quite the treat. MY boxes contatin imitation altoids given out at a ohio state home game. QQuite nice metal boxes hinged, red and brass color inside. Mabey I could do a exchange with someone individually. crispin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com__Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.http://mailplus.yahoo.com
FLUXLIST: BOX IDEA Plastic video boxes
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Re: FLUXLIST: BOX IDEA Plastic video boxes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=309item=3303265409 check these out on ebay good idea and cheep Looks interesting and if they don't go higher are fairly cheep. I have seen a number of publications that were published in VHS boxes and they work fairly well - although the same issue of the plastic hinge breaking that we had with the first box will happen with these. The other issue is the spindle for the tapes - they will not allow anything to lie flat in the bottom. Although these seem good - based on my experiences with the first box I think that we need a bigger container. . . . . Owen
FLUXLIST: box 2 idea container
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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST BOX #2
The more i think about this project the more i feel like it has to have a container decided upon we should take a vote. We need a list of all ideas for container and their accessability. LOWEST COST, HIGHEST DURABILITY my ideas so far Candy tins 50 or more free but small Cigar boxes 1$ per box VIDEO tape boxes cheep REEL CANS more expensive limited quanity on my end I heard PAINT CAN , globe, cd case, thats all i think How big do we want this box to be. LETS DO THIS THING IF it seems liike too much we could always just start by setting a number for the edition 5O LIKE THE last one. SO we could all make 5o of something and send it to CRISPIN WEBB 4 west chestnut apt # 5 mount vernon ohio 43050 just keep it small to or whatever Send your adress and name 5 $ for shipping and this could be well on its way within a short time We could set a deadline for entry for feb 8th one month from now I will take care of the assembly and shipping I have access to santas little elves, ten artists living in a small apartment building. very flux-like. crispin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
