Advanced tables

2003-01-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello group,
I try to do the following:
I want to label my file folders.
My xml looks like this:


University
WBS
XML
XSL
2003


Insurance
Barmenia
LVM
HUK
ADAC
2003

...

I have A4 sized paper. I have 1 to n folders. I would like to have a 
table that creates 1 to n columns. Then it should have 3 rows. In the 
first row  - the main topic.
The second row  - subtopic.
The last row  - year.

The problem that I (assume to) have, is that I only can use the 
 only once.

On the one hand I have to tell that there are 1 to n

On the other hand I have the 3 rows in 1 to n columns (example bottom)







I haven't figure out how to put 1 to n columns to a page and still 
display the content of top, middle, bottom , so here is a snip that each 
folder will have his own table.

I hope you understand what I am trying to do!
Thanks for any hints.
Example folder2fo.xsl:




































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Re: Howto make tables...

2003-01-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler

Jacob Bager wrote:
Err...
I thougt the  was the template?
The IMAGEINFO is tag in the .XML, like foo.bar
I want to write foo.bar i the  
that would be 

>>   
>> 
>>>text-align="center">
>>   
>>  
>> 
>>   
>> 
Jacob

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From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: Howto make tables...

Jacob Bager wrote:
Your right J.
It was missing the table-body element.
I have experimented with the xsl. Clay Leeds provided, its Working. 
But i havn't managed to get any data in from the xml-file. I tried 
this :


  
		 
		
   	   
   		  
   		
  


Have i totaly misunderstood something here, or shouldn't it work?
Jacob Bager
Denmark

It would help to see your template "IMAGEINFO" to get an idea of what's 
going wrong here.


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Re: fonts

2003-01-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello Frank,
MARTIN Franck wrote:
I'd like to get some advice about fonts used with fops.
Is the fop Helvetica supported font very similar to Arial font?
No! I think not even close!
Is it easy to use additional font with fop (as described at fop/fonts.html)
?
I had my problems with it but now it more or less runnig fine!
When following the tutorial http://xml.apache.org/fop/fonts:
java -cp 
build\fop.jar;lib\xercesImpl-2.0.1.jar;lib\xml-apis.jar;lib\xalan-2.3.1.jar;lib\batik.jar

BEWARE: That can be different with your local setting. (took me 1 hour 
to figure it out that I used a different version ;-)

e.g.:
replace:
xercesImpl-2.0.1.jar
with:
xercesImpl-Version.which.you.use.jar
Do you use cocoon?
then don't forget to register the user.config with your sitemap!
LIKE that:

	



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Re: arial font

2003-01-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
When following the tutorial:
java -cp 
build\fop.jar;lib\xercesImpl-2.0.1.jar;lib\xml-apis.jar;lib\xalan-2.3.1.jar;lib\batik.jar

BEWARE: That can be different with your local setting. (took me 1 hour 
to figure it out that I used a different version ;-)

e.g.:
replace:
xercesImpl-2.0.1.jar
with:
xercesImpl-Version.which.you.use.jar
Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
MARTIN Franck wrote:
yes but arial is not implemented with fop!
Hey, FOP doesn't try to implement fonts :) There are predefined fonts: 
Helvetica, Times, Courier, Symbol and ZapfDingbats. Any other font have 
to be added to FOP, see http://xml.apache.org/fop/fonts how to do it.


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Re: reference-orientation implemented yet?

2003-01-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Thanks Jeremias,
...and sorry for crosspost.
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
No. It has been started in the redesign (available through CVS) but I
don't think you will already get happy with it.
In the meantime you can try if using SVG for rotated text works for you.
Please don't crosspost and use the correct mailing list adress when
posting questions. Instructions are here:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/resources.html#N10015
On 21.01.2003 09:59:58 Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Hello group,
I tried to implemente the following:
+++
The reference-orientation property 
(http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/books/bible2/chapters/ch18.html)


+++
Is that possible or not yet



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[Fwd: reference-orientation implemented yet?]

2003-01-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
 --- Begin Message ---
Hello group,
I tried to implemente the following:
+++
The reference-orientation property 
(http://www.ibiblio.org/xml/books/bible2/chapters/ch18.html)

The reference-orientation property allows you to specify that the 
content of a box is rotated relative to its normal orientation. The only 
valid values are 90-degree increments, which are measured 
counterclockwise, that is 0, 90, 180, and 270. You can also specify -90, 
-180, and -270. For example, here's a 90-degree rotation:


  Bottom to Top

+++
Is that possible or not yet

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Re: Pass xsl:param value to FOP through command line

2002-11-26 Thread Thorsten Scherler
STOP!
I tought about something:
the .bat is for generating the the xml, right?
Then just do like you wanted: take an element call it e.g. .
then if rear
1
else
0
From there it is stylesheet work:
Backpage
front only
Regards
Clay Leeds wrote:
...
At 09:22 AM 11/26/2002, you wrote:
So I would store the information in that script. Then you need two 
fop-Stylesheets. 1) with the rear page 2) without

As they say here in the United States... Well, duh!
That solves it for me. The only problem now, is that I'll have two 
separate files to maintain. But then, if I IMPORT/INCLUDE the 
stylesheets, then I won't have to...

THANKS A MILLION!
:-)
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Re: Pass xsl:param value to FOP through command line

2002-11-26 Thread Thorsten Scherler

Clay Leeds wrote:
That's what I'm trying to do by passing the PARAM in the COMMAND line. 
It may just be that I don't completely understand the process. I have a 
system which outputs an XML file, and if a setting exists, will print 
that file using XSL:FO. I have a 2nd page in the XSL:FO that is static 
(it's a government form). 
Understood.
If the printer can handle DUPLEX (print on
front & back) then I output the 2nd page. If it does not, then they must 
purchase pre-printed paper with the government disclaimer stuff on the 
back.

You want to keep the information in a file or should it be done "on the 
fly"?

I'd like to have my .BAT/.sh script which runs FOP pass a parameter to 
FOP so it "knows" whether or not to print the 2nd page. 
ok, on the fly. But your .bat is sending the files, which should be 
printed (front/rear // front). So why not keep a record whether it is 
front/rear or front. Then "normal" if bla =true then bothPages else 
frontPage.

I guess I could
set up the system to always output both pages, but then only "print" ODD 
pages, but I have no guarantee that I'll have that much control over the 
environment. I do, however have control over the .BAT/.sh script

So I would store the information in that script. Then you need two 
fop-Stylesheets. 1) with the rear page 2) without

Thanks for your help!
Web Maestro Clay
At 09:04 AM 11/26/2002, you wrote:
Sorry, but can't help.
I am using fop within cocoon.
XSP stands for Extensible Server pages.
But if you pass values to fop, can't you insert the params BEFORE 
passing it to fop?

Clay Leeds wrote:
No. (at least I don't know what xsp is). My clients have installed 
JRE 1.4 & FOP, and that is all. I'd rather not have to install other 
items (if possible, of course). I'm just wondering if it's possible 
to pass variable & param values directly to FOP through the command 
line.
If it makes any difference my clients intend to run the gamut of 
output options: -print, -pcl, -awt, -ps, pdf...
Thanks!
Clay
At 08:54 AM 11/26/2002, you wrote:

Did you use xsp?
Clay Leeds wrote:
Howdy,
I didn't find this answer in the archives. I'd like to pass an 
xsl:param value to FOP. Is this possible? I found some information 
about doing this through the use of a servlet, however I'm using 
*.BAT files (under Windows) & *.sh scripts (in *NIX). I'd like to 
be able to pass xsl:param or xsl:variable values, to effect output.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Re: Pass xsl:param value to FOP through command line

2002-11-26 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Sorry, but can't help.
I am using fop within cocoon.
XSP stands for Extensible Server pages.
But if you pass values to fop, can't you insert the params BEFORE 
passing it to fop?

Clay Leeds wrote:
No. (at least I don't know what xsp is). My clients have installed JRE 
1.4 & FOP, and that is all. I'd rather not have to install other items 
(if possible, of course). I'm just wondering if it's possible to pass 
variable & param values directly to FOP through the command line.

If it makes any difference my clients intend to run the gamut of output 
options: -print, -pcl, -awt, -ps, pdf...

Thanks!
Clay
At 08:54 AM 11/26/2002, you wrote:
Did you use xsp?
Clay Leeds wrote:
Howdy,
I didn't find this answer in the archives. I'd like to pass an 
xsl:param value to FOP. Is this possible? I found some information 
about doing this through the use of a servlet, however I'm using 
*.BAT files (under Windows) & *.sh scripts (in *NIX). I'd like to be 
able to pass xsl:param or xsl:variable values, to effect output.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Re: Pass xsl:param value to FOP through command line

2002-11-26 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Did you use xsp?
Clay Leeds wrote:
Howdy,
I didn't find this answer in the archives. I'd like to pass an xsl:param 
value to FOP. Is this possible? I found some information about doing 
this through the use of a servlet, however I'm using *.BAT files (under 
Windows) & *.sh scripts (in *NIX). I'd like to be able to pass xsl:param 
or xsl:variable values, to effect output.

Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Re: Converting FOP to HTML

2002-11-22 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hi Vladimir,
you can c'n paste from PDF! e.g. with Acrobat Reader 5.0 you can prevent 
c'n paste or allow it. you can set a password and so on. I am not sure 
whether you can tell fop to pass that properties? But I can c'n past my pdf!

King regards
Thorsten
Vladimir Sneblic wrote:
Thanks everyone for your feedback.
The reason I wanted to create HTML documents as well is simply because PDF 
documents don't allow you to copy/paste parts of them. That's why if I have an 
HTML representation as well I can copy-paste parts of the document from it. 
(hope this makes sense)
Thanks again,
Vlad 

Vlad wrote:

I have created a program that converts a set of FOP templates to PDF documents. 
Now I would
like to enhance this program, and add the capability to also transform these 
templates into
HTML pages. Can this be done?

Using XSLT to convert the FOP documents to HTML would be your best bet. Because 
a large number of the presentation properties are taken from CSS it should be 
reasonably straight forward.
Is your primary intention to publish to print and you want the HTML version to 
resemble the printed version or is there any scope for flexibility in the 
presentation of the content?
Regards
Phil Fennell
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From: Vladimir Sneblic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 November 2002 02:10
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Subject: Converting FOP to HTML
Hi,
I have created a program that converts a set of FOP templates to PDF documents. 
Now I would like to enhance this program, and add the capability to also 
transform these templates into HTML pages. Can this be done?
I have checked the FOP website but HTML is not on the list of supported formats. Has anyone tried something like this before? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Vlad 

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Re: blank screen in browser

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I am not 100% sure I have understood it or not, but maybe that's the 
problem of the IE. I read some postings about IE having trouble with 
PDF, but can't remember where.

Savino, Matt C wrote:
Not necessarily. If only a few people's browsers are actually sending a
second request through to the servlet you might only see an error then. (Say
if you were storing the byte-stream in the user session for some reason, but
then deleting it after the first hit to the servlet, it would return and
empty byte-strem-blank page.)

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From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: blank screen in browser
But he wrote:
1% or so of my user population
> cannot get the pdf
Cox, Charlie wrote:
could an exception be occurring that prevents anything from 
being written to
the output stream? This would cause a blank screen. Check 
your server's log
files.
then I guess it would be 100%

Charlie

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From: Zahigian, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:59 PM
To: 'fop-dev@xml.apache.org'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: blank screen in browser
I am using FOP embedded in a Servlet.  Users trigger the 
servlet by clicking
a button on a web page.  The servlet then takes the response 
and performs a
transformation and renders to pdf.  The browser pops up a new 
window and
displays the pdf output.  1% or so of my user population 
cannot get the pdf
to display in the browser window that pops up (or any other 
browser window).
These users can open pdf files that exist on their local 
machine.  When
these users click the print button on my web page, the new 
browser window
pops up, but the contents are blank.  Any idea what is going on?

Mike Z.


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Re: blank screen in browser

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
But he wrote:
1% or so of my user population
> cannot get the pdf
Cox, Charlie wrote:
could an exception be occurring that prevents anything from being written to
the output stream? This would cause a blank screen. Check your server's log
files.
then I guess it would be 100%
Charlie

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From: Zahigian, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:59 PM
To: 'fop-dev@xml.apache.org'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: blank screen in browser
I am using FOP embedded in a Servlet.  Users trigger the 
servlet by clicking
a button on a web page.  The servlet then takes the response 
and performs a
transformation and renders to pdf.  The browser pops up a new 
window and
displays the pdf output.  1% or so of my user population 
cannot get the pdf
to display in the browser window that pops up (or any other 
browser window).
These users can open pdf files that exist on their local 
machine.  When
these users click the print button on my web page, the new 
browser window
pops up, but the contents are blank.  Any idea what is going on?

Mike Z.
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Re: blank screen in browser

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
It happends a couple of times to me to.
I always installed the Acrobat again and then it was alright.
I am now using Mozilla 
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.2b/mozilla-win32-1.2b-installer.exe 
and now I don't have that problem anymore.

You can download the page and then view it in Acrobat, right? But not 
online in the browser. Plugin Problem!

Zahigian, Mike wrote:
As far as I can tell all users are on IE 5.x to 6.x
MZ
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From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: blank screen in browser
What browser use this 1%?
Not all browser support adope reader as a plugin!
Zahigian, Mike wrote:
I am using FOP embedded in a Servlet.  Users trigger the servlet by
clicking
a button on a web page.  The servlet then takes the response and performs
a
transformation and renders to pdf.  The browser pops up a new window and
displays the pdf output.  1% or so of my user population cannot get the
pdf
to display in the browser window that pops up (or any other browser
window).
These users can open pdf files that exist on their local machine.  When
these users click the print button on my web page, the new browser window
pops up, but the contents are blank.  Any idea what is going on?
Mike Z.
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Re: blank screen in browser

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
What browser use this 1%?
Not all browser support adope reader as a plugin!
Zahigian, Mike wrote:
I am using FOP embedded in a Servlet.  Users trigger the servlet by clicking
a button on a web page.  The servlet then takes the response and performs a
transformation and renders to pdf.  The browser pops up a new window and
displays the pdf output.  1% or so of my user population cannot get the pdf
to display in the browser window that pops up (or any other browser window).
These users can open pdf files that exist on their local machine.  When
these users click the print button on my web page, the new browser window
pops up, but the contents are blank.  Any idea what is going on?
Mike Z.
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Re: [Wyonacms-users] XOpus

2002-11-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
This is an open appeal to the XML Open Source Community. Please support 
this appeal to keep an Open Source Project alive! How can we keep the 
following project Open Source? Please post this message to people who 
may help!

"Xopus is a browser based in-place wysiwyg XML editor. Xopus allows 
users to edit their XML data in an intuitive word processor alike way."
http://xopus.org/index.jsp

The following notice is on the above mentioned page. (my comments) are 
in the brackets.

Hello groups, hello Laurens van den Oever, Sjoerd Visscher, Lon Boonen!
Here is the notice of Q42:
Hi all,
Today we made a decision concerning the Open Source future of Xopus.
Originally, the Open Source project was intended to be our marketing. We 
hoped for huge exposure and many new projects and funding.

(How long are you open source now? Since August/September? I think it 
will take a while to spread the word. I talked to many people that are 
thinking to use Xopus and support the project, but it takes some time to 
really get in to it.)

And of course to change the world for the better.
(Would be if you stay Open Source! Your Editor is one good piece of 
work! I really like it! If we spread the word into the cocoon community 
I think you will get more support and projects)

We indeed got a lot of positive feedback, a few contributions (thanks 
guys!), but no projects nor funding.

The only serious leads and paying customers so far haven't found us 
through the Open Source community. Most of them don't like the Open 
Source idea all together.

(That's to bad. But part of the idea is as well that the user will 
develop the software because the know best want they want. I think your 
client will understand that they will profite of the work of the Open 
Source Community. They have ideas, spirit and a powerful community.)

Building the ideal XML editor, our goal, turned out to be somewhat more 
ambitious than we estimated.
We have made a huge investment building this product and can't continue 
to deliver free software without revenues.

(If some organisation listen: There is a Xopus Version for sale that 
have this * Advanced features:
o Complex pipeline resolving
o Richtext editors
o Table editing
o Lookup editors
o Animations
o Fast-pace editing (allows fast-keyboard-typing while xml nodes are 
created automatically according to the schema)
o Date editors
o Integer editors
o Enumeration editors)

Therefore we have been forced to the conclusion that we will not release 
new Xopus versions to the Open Source community as long as we don't find 
serious paid projects or funding.

(The product is really awesome try it out @ 
http://xopus.org/index.jsp?menu=demo)

We hope we will be able to return to the Open Source development soon.
Thanks for your support and "we apologize for the inconvenience" 
(THHGTTG IV),
****

What can we do?
King Regards
Thorsten Scherler
(by the way I am not with Q42, I am using the Open Source Product with 
wyona-cms (http://www.wyona.org/) and I like it very much. All cocoon 
user can integrate that editor in they applications! Online editing of 
XML - Kick's ass!)

Alex McLintock wrote:
Oh dear. It looks like XOpus isn't going to be open source, after all.
http://xopus.org/index.jsp
H. I can't really argue with their reasoning. I am pushing Open 
Source to the business community - and not getting enough revenue to 
make it worthwhile either.

Comments?
Alex


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