Re: Change bars not conforming to the Side Closer to / Farther from Page Edge
On the Right and Left master pages, check the position of the text frames. Try shifting the text frame on the Right page slightly to the right, and on the Left page shift to the left. When FM places the change bars, it uses the margin width to determine which side is closer to/farther from the edge, not the right/left page setting as one would expect. HTH, Ian Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: When comparing new and old double sided documents, I get the option of placing the change bars on the Side Closer to or Farther from Page Edge. but in each case, it works just as the left or right side options: For Side Closer to Page Edge the change bars are placed on left side of the column through all of the document and for Side Farther from Page Edge they will appear at the right side. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Thanks, Peter -- Basically I I'm concerned about a Content Diff so that my reviewers can see the difference. Unfortunately, I don't have Acrobat Pro (just Standard v6 at the moment) Grant -Original Message- From: Peter Gold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Grant Hogarth wrote: OK - I can think of a brute-force method to do this (duplicate the directory and make one Version A and and one Version B), but I wondered if anyone had a more elegant/less risky methodology/tool/technique for this task Hi, Grant: It's not clear what level of detail you need in your comparison, but you might find that the options available for document comparison in Acrobat Professional offer results that suit your needs better than FrameMaker's File Utilities Compare Documents. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Grant Hogarth wrote: Thanks, Peter -- Basically I I'm concerned about a Content Diff so that my reviewers can see the difference. Unfortunately, I don't have Acrobat Pro (just Standard v6 at the moment) It might be worth a look at your Acrobat Standard - I'm not sure if it does comparisons. Another approach, while it might be ugly, is to turn on condition indicators and show all conditions and save as PDF. The ugly part is where text flows - or maybe that's mis-flows. If you don't have any indicators set, choose a color for each condition, but don't use magenta. FrameMaker reserves magenta for content that is tagged with two or more conditions; the color isn't the result of any known rules of color mixing, it's just arbitrary. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Framers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20
Hi Steve, It seems that some people have problems if it's OFF, and some people have problems if it's ON. I guess there are so many variables and settings involved that it's hard to know how any given system will behave without trial and error. It would be nice if fonts were not so complicated...! -Original Message- From: Steve Gillespie Sr, PMP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:36 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Karen Story Subject: Re: Framers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20 hi, Karen I have to disagree with Mike Wickham's advice to click the 'Do Not Send Fonts' button ... let Distiller find them for you. In our app, FM7.2 and Acrobat 7, we MUST DE-select the 'Do Not Send Fonts' - otherwise, the Distiller output is squirelly (usually, missing text in tables). Not sure if this is a factor of the Adobe fonts installed on our PCs, but is what we have to do ... Steve Gillespie FedEx Express Memphis, TN 38125 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Comparing two documents (old and new) makes two conditional tags: in the new composite document, Deleted and Changed (or added, can't remember off the top of my head). The deleted one by default changes the deleted text (the one in the old document that you do not find in the new one) to overstrike red and the added (or changed) text (the one that you find in the new document and not in the old one) as green underlined. My reviewers are very happy about this and find it easy to follow. Different folders is only a question of taste or practical way to go at a bunch of files. ;-) Or you can just name the files differently. Bodvar On 9/22/06, Grant Hogarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Peter -- Basically I I'm concerned about a Content Diff so that my reviewers can see the difference. Unfortunately, I don't have Acrobat Pro (just Standard v6 at the moment) Grant -Original Message- From: Peter Gold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Grant Hogarth wrote: OK - I can think of a brute-force method to do this (duplicate the directory and make one Version A and and one Version B), but I wondered if anyone had a more elegant/less risky methodology/tool/technique for this task Hi, Grant: It's not clear what level of detail you need in your comparison, but you might find that the options available for document comparison in Acrobat Professional offer results that suit your needs better than FrameMaker's File Utilities Compare Documents. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20
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Change bars not conforming to the "Side Closer to / Farther from Page Edge"
When comparing new and old double sided documents, I get the option of placing the change bars on the "Side Closer to" or "Farther from Page Edge". but in each case, it works just as the left or right side options: For "Side Closer to Page Edge" the change bars are placed on left side of the column through all of the document and for "Side Farther from Page Edge" they will appear at the right side. I have browsed the mails for the last three or four years but no one has come up with other solution than changing the Format > Document > Change Bars settings in the originals and rerunning the compare. But the result is exactly the same for me. Are there any settings in the maker.ini that can change this to normal? Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Supervisor Publishing Air Atlanta Icelandic
Change bars not conforming to the "Side Closer to / Farther from Page Edge"
On the Right and Left master pages, check the position of the text frames. Try shifting the text frame on the Right page slightly to the right, and on the Left page shift to the left. When FM places the change bars, it uses the margin width to determine which side is closer to/farther from the edge, not the right/left page setting as one would expect. HTH, Ian Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > When comparing new and old double sided documents, I get the option of > placing the change bars on the "Side Closer to" or "Farther from Page > Edge". but in each case, it works just as the left or right side > options: For "Side Closer to Page Edge" the change bars are placed on > left side of the column through all of the document and for "Side > Farther from Page Edge" they will appear at the right side. >
Change bars not conforming to the "Side Closer to / Farther from Page Edge"
Thanks, I will try this on Monday. I was wondering whether the bleeding tabs text frames were interrupting the regular behaviour. Have a nice weekend. Bodvar On 9/22/06, Ian Hawkins wrote: > On the Right and Left master pages, check the position of the text > frames. Try shifting the text frame on the Right page slightly to the > right, and on the Left page shift to the left. > > When FM places the change bars, it uses the margin width to determine > which side is closer to/farther from the edge, not the right/left page > setting as one would expect. > > HTH, > Ian > > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > > > When comparing new and old double sided documents, I get the option of > > placing the change bars on the "Side Closer to" or "Farther from Page > > Edge". but in each case, it works just as the left or right side > > options: For "Side Closer to Page Edge" the change bars are placed on > > left side of the column through all of the document and for "Side > > Farther from Page Edge" they will appear at the right side. > > >
QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
OK - I can think of a brute-force method to do this (duplicate the directory and make one "Version A" and and one "Version B"), but I wondered if anyone had a more elegant/less risky methodology/tool/technique for this task Grant
QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Grant Hogarth wrote: > OK - I can think of a brute-force method to do this (duplicate the > directory and make one "Version A" and and one "Version B"), but I > wondered if anyone had a more elegant/less risky > methodology/tool/technique for this task > > > Hi, Grant: It's not clear what level of detail you need in your comparison, but you might find that the options available for document comparison in Acrobat Professional offer results that suit your needs better than FrameMaker's File > Utilities > Compare Documents. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Thanks, Peter -- Basically I I'm concerned about a Content Diff so that my reviewers can see the difference. Unfortunately, I don't have Acrobat Pro (just Standard v6 at the moment) Grant -Original Message- From: Peter Gold [mailto:pe...@knowhowpro.com] Grant Hogarth wrote: > OK - I can think of a brute-force method to do this (duplicate the > directory and make one "Version A" and and one "Version B"), but I > wondered if anyone had a more elegant/less risky > methodology/tool/technique for this task > Hi, Grant: It's not clear what level of detail you need in your comparison, but you might find that the options available for document comparison in Acrobat Professional offer results that suit your needs better than FrameMaker's File > Utilities > Compare Documents. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Grant Hogarth wrote: > Thanks, Peter -- > Basically I I'm concerned about a Content Diff so that my reviewers can > see the difference. > Unfortunately, I don't have Acrobat Pro (just Standard v6 at the moment) > > It might be worth a look at your Acrobat Standard - I'm not sure if it does comparisons. Another approach, while it might be ugly, is to turn on condition indicators and show all conditions and save as PDF. The ugly part is where text flows - or maybe that's "mis-flows." If you don't have any indicators set, choose a color for each condition, but don't use magenta. FrameMaker reserves magenta for content that is tagged with two or more conditions; the color isn't the result of any known rules of color mixing, it's just arbitrary. HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Framers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20
Hi Steve, It seems that some people have problems if it's OFF, and some people have problems if it's ON. I guess there are so many variables and settings involved that it's hard to know how any given system will behave without trial and error. It would be nice if fonts were not so complicated...! -Original Message- From: Steve Gillespie Sr, PMP [mailto:steve.gilles...@fedex.com] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:36 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Karen Story Subject: Re: Framers Digest, Vol 11, Issue 20 hi, Karen I have to disagree with Mike Wickham's advice to "click the 'Do Not Send Fonts' button ... let Distiller find them for you." In our app, FM7.2 and Acrobat 7, we MUST DE-select the 'Do Not Send Fonts' - otherwise, the Distiller output is squirelly (usually, missing text in tables). Not sure if this is a factor of the Adobe fonts installed on our PCs, but is what we have to do ... Steve Gillespie FedEx Express Memphis, TN 38125
Do not send fonts to Adobe PDF: select?
> In our app, FM7.2 and Acrobat 7, we MUST DE-select the 'Do Not Send > Fonts' - > otherwise, the Distiller output is squirelly (usually, missing text in > tables). > Not sure if this is a factor of the Adobe fonts installed on our PCs, but > is what we > have to do ... I don't know if this helps, but each Adobe application sees the fonts installed in Windows, plus fonts residing in its own private fonts subfolder. For Frame, that folder is fminit\fonts. So if a Frame document uses fonts that are not installed in Windows, but reside in the fminit\fonts folder, Frame will use them happily. But if one then chooses the Do Not Send Fonts to Adobe PDF option, Distiller will be unable to find those fonts-- as it only sees the Windows system fonts, plus the fonts in its own private subfolder. You can also use Settings> Font Locations in Distiller to have it look for and use uninstalled fonts in other folders. Mike Wickham
QUESTION: Creating a DIFF doc comparing 2 conditionalized versions of manual
Comparing two documents (old and new) makes two conditional tags: in the new composite document, "Deleted" and "Changed" (or added, can't remember off the top of my head). The deleted one by default changes the deleted text (the one in the old document that you do not find in the new one) to overstrike red and the added (or changed) text (the one that you find in the new document and not in the old one) as green underlined. My reviewers are very happy about this and find it easy to follow. Different folders is only a question of taste or practical way to go at a bunch of files. ;-) Or you can just name the files differently. Bodvar On 9/22/06, Grant Hogarth wrote: > Thanks, Peter -- > Basically I I'm concerned about a Content Diff so that my reviewers can > see the difference. > Unfortunately, I don't have Acrobat Pro (just Standard v6 at the moment) > > Grant > > -Original Message- > From: Peter Gold [mailto:peter at knowhowpro.com] > > Grant Hogarth wrote: > > OK - I can think of a brute-force method to do this (duplicate the > > directory and make one "Version A" and and one "Version B"), but I > > wondered if anyone had a more elegant/less risky > > methodology/tool/technique for this task > > > Hi, Grant: > > It's not clear what level of detail you need in your comparison, but you > might find that the options available for document comparison in Acrobat > Professional offer results that suit your needs better than FrameMaker's > File > Utilities > Compare Documents. > > HTH > > Regards, > > Peter Gold > KnowHow ProServices > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as bodvar at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
