More on indexing in Framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Rob Shell
Thank you for all the suggestions, the IXgen seems the way to go; I will 
certainly buy it when I can afford the exchange rate. It looks terrific.


I do not want to start a debate about concordances and low usability 
indexes, but there are certain types of documents where concordances  are 
very useful. Professional indexers have a strong antipathy to them.


Say you were indexing lengthy historical documents of one period, then a 
concordance of all proper names would then be most useful. Genealogists have 
often approached me about my published work, saying you mentioned my 
ancestor but he/she is not in your index.


The concordance can be a powerful *second* string. One can then go through 
the document again and mark the marked entries. Multiple intelligent passes 
through the document are unavoidable.


I look forward to the time when indexing can be automated to the point where 
an 8 point font could say, indicate mention only; italics could indicate, 
ref in footnote, bold main reference, etc.. I do realise this is a long 
way away.


Thanks for the answers. The learning curve is easing thanks to this 
listserv. I appreciate it a lot.


Newbie Shell

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Re: More on indexing in Framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:10 +0200 13/1/07, Rob Shell wrote:

I look forward to the time when indexing can be automated to the point where 
an 8 point font could say, indicate mention only; italics could indicate, 
ref in footnote, bold main reference, etc.. I do realise this is a long way 
away.

Rob, I don't know whether you're working on PC or Mac, but judicious use of a 
macro package can take a lot of the work out of building index markers in 
FrameMaker. Cheaper than IXGen.

Also, take a look at IndexTools Professional from Silicon Prairie:

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

-- 
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Richard Doll
As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
follow:

Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
VisualBasic - ColourChameleon

Try'd 24 Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
completely dead and type still pixcelized.
So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.

Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer drop-downs to
appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
window.
And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
will I also need multi-mices? 8^)

best to all,
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RE: Keyboard shortcut to select an anchored frame

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Gaskill

The problem here is that if there is more than one anchored frame on the
page, how do you use the keyboard to select the one you want?  I suppose you
could use a macro that allowed the use of the arrow keys, but that is more
than just a keyboard shortcut.  And if you are using Windows, you would have
to do it through a plugin.

If anyone knows it's probably Shlomo Perets ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).

Diane

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Fred Staal wrote:
 Anyone know of a keyboard shortcut to highlight/select (not create) an
 anchored frame that already exists on a page (prior to importing a
 graphic file, for instance)?


Fred,

I have a *very* extensive list of esc commands for FM, but a search of
it reveals no such shortcut, alas.

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RE: PDF to framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Gaskill
It always puzzles me how companies make decisions.  Adobe has included a
function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their
competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats.  Perhaps
there is not enough demand for PDF-FM?

Diane


snip

True... although Recosoft has recently released a product to convert PDF
into an editable *InDesign* document, so I guess they must have thought
there was a commercial need.

http://www.recosoft.com/company/press/news01092007.htm

Same company does lots of other PDF-somethingelse converters, but sadly not
for FrameMaker... unsurprisingly. However, you might be able to use one of
their converters as a stepping stone, but I don't know whether it would give
any advantage over a save to RTF from Acrobat.

--
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread John Posada
--- Richard Doll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
 ??s follow:

Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
where you left it before you shut down.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
actually known what the question is.
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Joe Malin
A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:


   * Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
 bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
 use.
   * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
 These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
 cramped.
   * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
 this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
 forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
 configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.


In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my 
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I 
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset. I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.


Joe

John Posada wrote:

--- Richard Doll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
??s follow:



Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
where you left it before you shut down.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually 
known what the question is.
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Re: PDF to framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Rick Quatro
I am sure there are a lot of people within Adobe that don't know what 
FrameMaker is.


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com



It always puzzles me how companies make decisions.  Adobe has included a
function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their
competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats.  Perhaps
there is not enough demand for PDF-FM?

Diane


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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Courlis
When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
  
  -pc

Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A slight hijack: for people who are using 
dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:

* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
  bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
  use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
  These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
  cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
  this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
  forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
  configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.

In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my 
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I 
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset. I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.

Joe

John Posada wrote:
 --- Richard Doll  wrote:

   
 As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
 ??s follow:
 

 Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

 As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
 desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
 screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
 right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

 With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
 monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

 As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
 you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
 where you left it before you shut down.

 John Posada
 Senior Technical Writer

 I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
 actually known what the question is.
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread John Posada
I have a laptop. Laptops have an external video port. The laptop is
the left monitior and the 17 LCD is the right monitor.


--- Peter Courlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
   
   -pc
 
 Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A slight hijack: for people
 who are using dual monitors, what 
 configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
 LCD 
 displays. I see the following configurations in use:
 
 * Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
   bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is
 what I
   use.
 * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of
 course.
   These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it
 felt
   cramped.
 * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually
 see
   this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/
 (top
   forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite.
 The
   configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.
 
 I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
 multiple machines.
 
 In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
 
 normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
 
 think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
 I am 
 just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in
 an 
 old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
 windows 
 rather than moving one off to the second display.
 
 Joe
 
 John Posada wrote:
  --- Richard Doll  wrote:
 

  As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . .
 My
  ??s follow:
  
 
  Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
 
  As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
  desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
 whatever
  screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to
 the
  right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things
 around.
 
  With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the
 left
  monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
 
  As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
 when
  you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
  where you left it before you shut down.
 
  John Posada
  Senior Technical Writer
 
  I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
 never actually known what the question is.
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Joe Malin
I use an IBM/Lenovo T43P in a docking station. The docking station has a 
VGA port and a DVI port. This particular laptop has the ATI Mobility 
FireGL V3200. Most video cards these days support dual monitors.


Peter Courlis wrote:

When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?

-pc

*/Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD
displays. I see the following configurations in use:

* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from
multiple machines.

In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
I am
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
windows
rather than moving one off to the second display.

Joe

John Posada wrote:
 --- Richard Doll wrote:


 As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
 ??s follow:


 Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

 As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
 desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
whatever
 screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
 right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

 With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
 monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

 As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
when
 you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
 where you left it before you shut down.

 John Posada
 Senior Technical Writer

 I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that
you've never actually known what the question is.
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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Joe Malin

This is another configuration that's often used here.

John Posada wrote:

I have a laptop. Laptops have an external video port. The laptop is
the left monitior and the 17 LCD is the right monitor.


--- Peter Courlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
  
  -pc


Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  A slight hijack: for people
who are using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:


* Horizontal side-by-side, most often tilted back (top back,
  bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is
what I
  use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of
course.
  These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it
felt
  cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually
see
  this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/
(top
  forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite.
The
  configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.


In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my

normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I

think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in
an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.


Joe

John Posada wrote:


--- Richard Doll  wrote:

  
  

As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . .


My


??s follow:



Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
  

whatever


screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to
  

the


right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things
  

around.


With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the
  

left


monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
  

when


you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
where you left it before you shut down.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
  

never actually known what the question is.


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Re: Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Bill Briggs
Not that anyone here cares, but on the Mac you don't need anything special. Add 
a graphics card and you're good to go. The OS just looks after it. If you have 
a PowerBook you just plug in the second monitor. Macs have natively supported 
up to six monitors (yes, you read that right, 6) out of the box since day 1 
(now 23 years ago). I've used two monitors for about 13 years now. Main screen 
(which is the PowerBook) on the right, tools on the big Sony to the left. I'm 
about to get a new flat panel for the office, but at home I'm keeping the big 
Sony as it's still a really good monitor.

- web

At 1:57 PM -0500 1/13/07, Richard Doll wrote:
As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
follow:

Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
VisualBasic - ColourChameleon

Try'd 24 Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
completely dead and type still pixcelized.
So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.

Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer drop-downs to
appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
window.
And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
will I also need multi-mices? 8^)

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More on indexing in Framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Rob Shell
Thank you for all the suggestions, the IXgen seems the way to go; I will 
certainly buy it when I can afford the exchange rate. It looks terrific.

I do not want to start a debate about concordances and low usability 
indexes, but there are certain types of documents where concordances  are 
very useful. Professional indexers have a strong antipathy to them.

Say you were indexing lengthy historical documents of one period, then a 
concordance of all proper names would then be most useful. Genealogists have 
often approached me about my published work, saying "you mentioned my 
ancestor but he/she is not in your index."

The concordance can be a powerful *second* string. One can then go through 
the document again and mark the marked entries. Multiple intelligent passes 
through the document are unavoidable.

I look forward to the time when indexing can be automated to the point where 
an 8 point font could say, indicate "mention only"; italics could indicate, 
"ref in footnote", bold main reference, etc.. I do realise this is a long 
way away.

Thanks for the answers. The learning curve is easing thanks to this 
listserv. I appreciate it a lot.

Newbie Shell

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More on indexing in Framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:10 +0200 13/1/07, Rob Shell wrote:

>I look forward to the time when indexing can be automated to the point where 
>an 8 point font could say, indicate "mention only"; italics could indicate, 
>"ref in footnote", bold main reference, etc.. I do realise this is a long way 
>away.

Rob, I don't know whether you're working on PC or Mac, but judicious use of a 
macro package can take a lot of the work out of building index markers in 
FrameMaker. Cheaper than IXGen.

Also, take a look at IndexTools Professional from Silicon Prairie:



-- 
Steve



Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Richard Doll
As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
follow:

Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
VisualBasic - ColourChameleon

Try'd 24" Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
completely dead and type still pixcelized.
So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.

Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer "drop-downs" to
appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
window.
And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
will I also need multi-mices? 8^)

best to all,
dick doll
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Keyboard shortcut to select an anchored frame

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Gaskill

The problem here is that if there is more than one anchored frame on the
page, how do you use the keyboard to select the one you want?  I suppose you
could use a macro that allowed the use of the arrow keys, but that is more
than just a keyboard shortcut.  And if you are using Windows, you would have
to do it through a plugin.

If anyone knows it's probably Shlomo Perets (shlomo2 at microtype.com).

Diane

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Subject: Re: Keyboard shortcut to select an anchored frame


Fred Staal wrote:
> Anyone know of a keyboard shortcut to highlight/select (not create) an
> anchored frame that already exists on a page (prior to importing a
> graphic file, for instance)?
>

Fred,

I have a *very* extensive list of esc commands for FM, but a search of
it reveals no such shortcut, alas.

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PDF to framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Diane Gaskill
It always puzzles me how companies make decisions.  Adobe has included a
function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their
competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats.  Perhaps
there is not enough demand for PDF->FM?

Diane




True... although Recosoft has recently released a product to convert PDF
into an editable *InDesign* document, so I guess they must have thought
there was a commercial need.



Same company does lots of other PDF->somethingelse converters, but sadly not
for FrameMaker... unsurprisingly. However, you might be able to use one of
their converters as a stepping stone, but I don't know whether it would give
any advantage over a save to RTF from Acrobat.

--
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread John Posada
--- Richard Doll  wrote:

> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
> ??s follow:

Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)

As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.

With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.

As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
where you left it before you shut down.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
actually known what the question is."



Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Joe Malin
A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:

* Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
  bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
  use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
  These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
  cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
  this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
  forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
  configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.

In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my 
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I 
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset. I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.

Joe

John Posada wrote:
> --- Richard Doll  wrote:
>
>   
>> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
>> ??s follow:
>> 
>
> Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
>
> As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
> desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
> screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
> right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.
>
> With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
> monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
>
> As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
> you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
> where you left it before you shut down.
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
> actually known what the question is."
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PDF to framemaker

2007-01-13 Thread Rick Quatro
I am sure there are a lot of people within Adobe that don't know what 
FrameMaker is.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> It always puzzles me how companies make decisions.  Adobe has included a
> function within Acrobat to convert PDF to RTF, the file format of their
> competitor, but not to FM which is one of their own file formats.  Perhaps
> there is not enough demand for PDF->FM?
>
> Diane




Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Peter Courlis
When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?

  -pc

Joe Malin  wrote:  A slight hijack: for people who are 
using dual monitors, what 
configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD 
displays. I see the following configurations in use:

* Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
  bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
  use.
* Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
  These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
  cramped.
* Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
  this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
  forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
  configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.

I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
multiple machines.

In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my 
normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I 
think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset. I am 
just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an 
old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app windows 
rather than moving one off to the second display.

Joe

John Posada wrote:
> --- Richard Doll  wrote:
>
>   
>> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
>> ??s follow:
>> 
>
> Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
>
> As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
> desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to whatever
> screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
> right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.
>
> With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
> monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
>
> As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor, when
> you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
> where you left it before you shut down.
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never 
> actually known what the question is."
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread John Posada
I have a laptop. Laptops have an external video port. The laptop is
the left monitior and the 17" LCD is the right monitor.


--- Peter Courlis  wrote:

> When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
>   
>   -pc
> 
> Joe Malin  wrote:  A slight hijack: for people
> who are using dual monitors, what 
> configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
> LCD 
> displays. I see the following configurations in use:
> 
> * Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
>   bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is
> what I
>   use.
> * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of
> course.
>   These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it
> felt
>   cramped.
> * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually
> see
>   this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/
> (top
>   forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite.
> The
>   configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.
> 
> I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
> multiple machines.
> 
> In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
> 
> normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
> 
> think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
> I am 
> just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in
> an 
> old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
> windows 
> rather than moving one off to the second display.
> 
> Joe
> 
> John Posada wrote:
> > --- Richard Doll  wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . .
> My
> >> ??s follow:
> >> 
> >
> > Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
> >
> > As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
> > desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
> whatever
> > screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to
> the
> > right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things
> around.
> >
> > With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the
> left
> > monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
> >
> > As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
> when
> > you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
> > where you left it before you shut down.
> >
> > John Posada
> > Senior Technical Writer
> >
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Joe Malin
I use an IBM/Lenovo T43P in a docking station. The docking station has a 
VGA port and a DVI port. This particular laptop has the ATI Mobility 
FireGL V3200. Most video cards these days support dual monitors.

Peter Courlis wrote:
> When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
>
> -pc
>
> */Joe Malin /* wrote:
>
> A slight hijack: for people who are using dual monitors, what
> configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual LCD
> displays. I see the following configurations in use:
>
> * Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
> bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is what I
> use.
> * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of course.
> These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it felt
> cramped.
> * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually see
> this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/ (top
> forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite. The
> configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.
>
> I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from
> multiple machines.
>
> In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
> normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
> think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
> I am
> just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in an
> old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
> windows
> rather than moving one off to the second display.
>
> Joe
>
> John Posada wrote:
> > --- Richard Doll wrote:
> >
> >
> >> As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My
> >> ??s follow:
> >>
> >
> > Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
> >
> > As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
> > desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
> whatever
> > screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to the
> > right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things around.
> >
> > With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the left
> > monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
> >
> > As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
> when
> > you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
> > where you left it before you shut down.
> >
> > John Posada
> > Senior Technical Writer
> >
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Joe Malin
This is another configuration that's often used here.

John Posada wrote:
> I have a laptop. Laptops have an external video port. The laptop is
> the left monitior and the 17" LCD is the right monitor.
>
>
> --- Peter Courlis  wrote:
>
>   
>> When using dual Monitors, what video card do you use?
>>   
>>   -pc
>>
>> Joe Malin  wrote:  A slight hijack: for people
>> who are using dual monitors, what 
>> configuration do you use? Here at work, we have people using dual
>> LCD 
>> displays. I see the following configurations in use:
>>
>> * Horizontal side-by-side, most often "tilted back" (top back,
>>   bottom up) but sometimes also straight up and down. This is
>> what I
>>   use.
>> * Vertical side-by-side. A LCD monitor is easy to rotate, of
>> course.
>>   These are most often straight up and down. I tried it but it
>> felt
>>   cramped.
>> * Horizontal /one above the other/. I kid you not. I usually
>> see
>>   this configuration with the upper monitor tilted /forward/
>> (top
>>   forward, bottom back) and the lower monitor tilted opposite.
>> The
>>   configuration has a very futuristic/spaceship look.
>>
>> I have seen a few quad monitor setups, which are most likely from 
>> multiple machines.
>>
>> In my current configuration, I devote the left-hand panel to all my
>>
>> normal work, and use the right-hand panel exclusively for e-mail. I
>>
>> think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is switching my mindset.
>> I am 
>> just not used to having this much screen space, so I do things in
>> an 
>> old-fashioned style. I often find myself switching between app
>> windows 
>> rather than moving one off to the second display.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> John Posada wrote:
>> 
>>> --- Richard Doll  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
 As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . .
 
>> My
>> 
 ??s follow:
 
 
>>> Richard...you're thinking too much. :-)
>>>
>>> As a long-time user of multiple monitors, consider it one big
>>> desktop. Simply drag whatever application window you want to
>>>   
>> whatever
>> 
>>> screen you want. You'll be able to drag from the left monitor to
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> right monitor and vice versa. I'm continually moving things
>>>   
>> around.
>> 
>>> With the mouse, when you move it past the right boundary of the
>>>   
>> left
>> 
>>> monitor, it will appear on the right monitor.
>>>
>>> As long as you don't restart your machine with only one monitor,
>>>   
>> when
>> 
>>> you reboot, each application will (usually) reopen on the monitor
>>> where you left it before you shut down.
>>>
>>> John Posada
>>> Senior Technical Writer
>>>
>>> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
>>>   
>> never actually known what the question is."
>> 
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Dual Monitor(s) ??s

2007-01-13 Thread Bill Briggs
Not that anyone here cares, but on the Mac you don't need anything special. Add 
a graphics card and you're good to go. The OS just looks after it. If you have 
a PowerBook you just plug in the second monitor. Macs have natively supported 
up to six monitors (yes, you read that right, 6) out of the box since day 1 
(now 23 years ago). I've used two monitors for about 13 years now. Main screen 
(which is the PowerBook) on the right, tools on the big Sony to the left. I'm 
about to get a new flat panel for the office, but at home I'm keeping the big 
Sony as it's still a really good monitor.

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At 1:57 PM -0500 1/13/07, Richard Doll wrote:
>As many of you have touted the advantages of dual monitors . . . My ??s
>follow:
>
>Replacing 4-yr. old (now too slow) Dell 360 Precision WrkStation with:
>NewSys: WinXP Pro - Dell 490 PrecisionWorkStation - 2G Mem - 80Gig Hard
>Drv - Dual Monitor IntFace/Contrlr
>Apps: FMkr 7.2 - PShop - Illustrtr - AcrobtPro 5.05 w/Dstlr - MSWrd -
>VisualBasic - ColourChameleon
>
>Try'd 24" Wide Screen on this sys; but, aspect of wide-screen only stretches
>display to fill monitor area. Such that 8.5x11-in page at 100% displays at
>10.25x11 . . . like its quite chubby. Type and graphics also display
>pixelized/distorted. Can change aspect to normal, but then, margins are
>completely dead and type still pixcelized.
>So, returning 2407 monitor for two regular (aspect) screens.
>
>Question(s) is . . . How to direct certain apps to display on which screen
>and (FMkr) how to have (para/table/structure/etc). designer "drop-downs" to
>appear on screen2 next to the screen1 that would display the main/page
>window.
>And . . . should I care how the mouse knows that the right boundary of
>screen #1 is really the left edge of screen #2 and will flow across? Or,
>will I also need multi-mices? 8^)
>
>best to all,
>dick doll
>sgmlindy at tds,net
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