RE: Frame's future

[David Creamer]

 Precisely, and you should be prepared for the day when FrameMaker is
 killed off by Adobe. If this tool is important to you, you should be
 very, very afraid of its demise for the exact same reasons that Adobe
 dropped it for the Mac.
 
I suspect the user base of FrameMaker comes into play too:
Government agencies, government contractors, corporations among others.

Not the clientele that Adobe wants to upset TOO much, regardless of the
actual number of software packages they purchase.

David Creamer
I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training
http://www.IDEAStraining.com
Adobe Certified Trainer  Expert (since 1995)
Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988)
Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified
Apple Consultant Network member (since 1990)


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Re: Structured Frame saving XML

[hedley . finger]

Trevor:

 Because our XML files are managed by a source control system, ...

... you are using the wrong tool.  Source control systems are meant 
for program source code where line breaks have meaning, usually 
to separate program statements.

You need an XML-aware content management system that understands 
that whitespace (CR, LF, TAB, etc.) must be ignored and that 
the position of attributes in element tags does not matter.

So don't blame FrameMaker.  All XML editors are deficient in this 
regard if you examine their source code.  But then they all 
obey the rules, so this doesn't matter.

Regards,
Hedley

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RE: Structured Frame saving XML

[hedley . finger]

As well as the other suggestions re read/write rules, perhaps you could 
turn Smart Spaces off.
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Out of Memory Errors

[Zoe Lawson]

Greetings,

I'm working on a rather graphics-heavy project.

I made a black and white version using EPS and PNG files, and everything was 
fine.

Now I'm making a color version, and things aren't so fine.

1. Some of the PNG files (made with Corel Draw X3) are not being recognized by 
FrameMaker as PNG files. Frame asks me to import the image using a PNG filter. 
They worked fine in black and white, but no so much in color. They are 
different images, the black and white images are not grayscaled versions of the 
color. I took copies of the black and white images and colored them. Any ideas 
as to why FrameMaker isn't recognizing the PNG files?

2. After trying to print the book several times, being told that images Frame 
could view the last time I opened the file 'will be imported as gray boxes', I 
get FrameMaker is out of memory errors. FrameMaker has also given me several 
Sorry, FrameMaker has to unexpectedly quit errors. Since all the info you get 
is Hex, I have no idea.
Are all the color images (much larger than black and white, plus they're at a 
high (300-600 dpi) resolution so that they will print well) confusing 
FrameMaker?

3. If I can get Frame to acknowledge the PNG files, and instead of printing my 
book, I print each individual Frame file and piece it together in Adobe 
Acrobat, will I lose any quality as far as a printer is concerned?

Thanks. I'm getting rather frustrated, so any insight will be GREATLY 
appreciated. I would like this done by Friday, if possible.

Zoë



 

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RE: Frame's future

[Sean Pollock]

Why be afraid of Frame's possible demise? XML is the future, and Frame is
just a tool, and should never be the source. There will be (actually,
already are) new tools, Frame ain't all that anyway. Seems like I've been
using it forever--I look forward to the day that something else will improve
on it.

Sean Pollock
UGS Corp.

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At 9:40 AM + 3/2/07, Gordon McLean wrote:
Sales figures will reveal the story.

What sells more, Photoshop or FrameMaker?

*yawns*

Gordon

Precisely, and you should be prepared for the day when FrameMaker is 
killed off by Adobe. If this tool is important to you, you should be 
very, very afraid of its demise for the exact same reasons that Adobe 
dropped it for the Mac.

Don't be too smug.

Scott
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RE: Frame's future

[quills]

At 8:29 PM -0500 3/4/07, Sean Pollock wrote:

Why be afraid of Frame's possible demise? XML is the future, and Frame is
just a tool, and should never be the source. There will be (actually,
already are) new tools, Frame ain't all that anyway. Seems like I've been
using it forever--I look forward to the day that something else will improve
on it.

Sean Pollock
UGS Corp.


What concerns me is that many of these tools are Enterprise level. 
Meaning that they are too expensive to be purchased by a single 
person, and often require a server from which to run. What that 
means, is that companies will segregate writers into those who know 
the tools, and those who don't. If you want to get a job, you have to 
know the tools. Most companies don't want to teach you to use them. 
They want you to know them already. They won't care if you know XML 
or SGML. They will focus on the tool.


Scott
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Re: Frame Improvements

[Art Campbell]

You may want to post in Adobe's User forum, in the Feature Request thread.
That's likely to be a more appropriate spot.

And just between us, I couldn't tell exactly what you were complaining
about in your #3 and #4 items -- too vague.

Art

On 3/4/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I hope someone from adobe reads this:

Some improvements that would make working with Frame much more pleasant.
Some are very simple to implement.
- Place the chapter name in parenthesis after the filename, both in the
window title and in the list of files on the Window menu. By chapter
name, I mean the name that you see when you click the button in the book
window that toggles between the filename and chapter name.
- When using the Find feature for the current document, display a
message when the end of the document is reached.
- When using the Find feature for the whole book, there seems to be a
bug that when in the middle of the search you fix something in the
document, it does not continue the search throughout the book correctly.
Please fix it.
- Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.

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Re: Frame Improvements

[Rick Quatro]

Shmuel,

What do you mean that table ruling does not work correctly? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


- Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.

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Re: Frame Improvements

[Bill Swallow]

Post these in the running list on adobeforums.com. Also, if you can be
specific about issues they may be more inclined to do something about
it. I know when I'm told X is broken. Fix it. that item goes the
very bottom of my to-do list if I can't tell if there truly is a
problem. Food for thought.

On 3/4/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I hope someone from adobe reads this:

Some improvements that would make working with Frame much more pleasant.
Some are very simple to implement.
- Place the chapter name in parenthesis after the filename, both in the
window title and in the list of files on the Window menu. By chapter
name, I mean the name that you see when you click the button in the book
window that toggles between the filename and chapter name.
- When using the Find feature for the current document, display a
message when the end of the document is reached.
- When using the Find feature for the whole book, there seems to be a
bug that when in the middle of the search you fix something in the
document, it does not continue the search throughout the book correctly.
Please fix it.
- Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.


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FrameMaker crashes when file is opened prior to book

[Reng, Winfried Dr.]

Hi,

I have a book with 8 files (TOC, but no index), 230 pages.
When I open the book first, update it and then print,
everything is fine. However, when I now close everything,
open one of the files first, then open the book file and
print the book file, FrameMaker crashes. No recovery files,
lck files closed. This happens with 2 of my books.

Is this a known bug? I thought that this happens only with
the TOC.

Best regards

Winfried

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Re: Frame Improvements

[William Gaffga]

I'm not an Adobe employee but I'll bite.
First off, that is a VERY open statement. What about table ruling  
does not work? I've never seen an issue where it does not work  
correctly, except where it was my fault, such as a manual override  
that I can easily clear out. Generally speaking, FM's tables are  
about the best thing out there and I don't believe I've ever heard  
someone complain about them.


Will.

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On Mar 4, 2007, at 2:33 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:


- Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.


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(1) Numbering issues with anchored frames (2) Changing numbering in a book

[Dona Mommsen]

Hi,

I'm soliciting the 2 cents from the pros before I'm getting myself into 
trouble, and I apologize for the long post. I'm using Frame 7.0 on Mac 
10.3.9. and no FrameScript. I have a book with the following structure:


Title
TOC
LOF based on 2 paragraph tags with the same numbering tag
LOT based on 2 paragraph tags with the same numbering tag
LOP based on one paragraph tag for 'Boxes' in the document
Abbreviations
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4
Chapter 5
Chapter 6
Chapter 7 and 8
	—For chapters 1 through 8 the numbering of chapters is only in the 
paragraph numbering, not in the numbering definition of the book. 
Chapter 7 and 8 are still in one file.

—Headings are numbered 1, 1.1, 1.1.1
	—Figures and Tables are numbered with separate tags, continuously 
throughout all 8 chapters
	—Some figures are split into panels numbered 1a), 1b), but there is 
always one caption for the whole Figure.

Appendix A
—Headings are numbered A.1
—Figures and Tables are numbered A–1
File with more Appendix A, all in landscape format
Appendix B
References
IX

(1) This book has a numbering issue with anchored frames.
The numbering setting  is to continue the numbering from the previous 
paragraph in the book, and it is consistent in the book and in each 
document. However, this does not work when the first occurrence of the 
paragraph happens to be in an anchored frame. In that case Frame 
stubbornly restarts numbering for that paragraph / tag, and it happens 
for paragraphs containing any numbering tag. As soon as I enter the 
same paragraph format in the flow (somewhere before the anchored frame) 
the numbering continues correctly. Any ideas or workarounds?


(2) In addition, I'd like to make a number of numbering changes. Maybe 
these changes should be done first, because it includes restarting the 
numbering in each chapter, which could make the issue detailed above 
obsolete. However, I'm not sure if there is any order in which I should 
tackle these changes. I'm particularly uncertain if I'm missing 
something about numbering definitions of the book vs. numbering in the 
paragraph format that could get me in trouble.


— Introducing Parts should be the easy part:
Part I: Chapters 1 to 3
Part II: Chapters 4 to 6
Part III: Chapters 7 to 8
I was planning to create a new paragraph tag and to include that in the 
TOC.


— Change the numbering of Figures and Tables to Chapter—Figure  or 
Chapter—Table, respectively, e.g. Figure 1—1. Thus the numbering 
restarts in each chapter.
I've done the combined numbering in the Appendix, with a structure of 
empty brackets in the auto-numbering format,

e.g. A:A.n+   \t
Should I do the same for the main chapters 1 through 8, or is there 
something that I'm missing about the chapter numbering definition of 
the book?
Please note that I have multiple paragraph tags for Figures and Tables, 
so there are 2 numbering tags but 5 paragraph tags in total: Figure, 
FigureWithSource, TableTitle, TableTitleWithSource, and another 
paragraph tag for the Figures  that are split into panels. The 'with 
source' paragraphs have a different spacing, ruler and 'next paragraph' 
property, because they are followed by a paragraph indicating the 
source. However, they are using the same numbering tag, so there are 
only 2 numbering  tags, one for Figures and one for Tables. Also, the 
paragraph tag for split Figures with panels numbered 1a), 1b) uses the 
same numbering tag. However, these  panels are not included in the List 
of Figures. The caption for the whole figure that gets into the LOF is 
either a paragraph Figure or  FigureWithSource.
Again, the goal it to change the numbering to Chapter—Figure  or 
Chapter—Table,  respectively. I guess that I can handle that with the 
correct structure in the  empty-brackets-approach, where Figure and 
FigureWithSource have to use the same item in the list. To get the 
'Figures with panels',  I'll probably need another item in the 
structure. Again, the question is whether there is a better way of 
doing this, using the chapter numbering definition in the book? Is it 
possible to use a variable definition like $chapnum in the 
auto-numbering of a paragraph tag?


— I'm also grateful for any tips how to make these changes across the 
book without FrameScript.


— How bad is it to have 2 chapters in one file? I don't mind to split 
the file. I'm asking purely out of curiosity, and I already brace 
myself for the outcry this question might provoke.


Last but not least, all these Lists of … are taking up too much space.  
The closest that I could move them together is to start each file on 
the next available page. Is it possible to have all the List of 
Figures, Tables, and Paragraphs in one file but as three separate 
lists?


Thanks in advance for any suggestion.

Dona

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Re: Frame Improvements

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Are all these bugs, or am I doing something wrong?
There seem to be several bugs in table ruling:

- When a heading row repeats on 2 or more pages, the ruling at the 
bottom of the table, and underneath the header row row are not always 
the correct ruling style. I have to apply the ruling manually.


- When I apply custom ruling and shading, to a row and select only the 
Bottom and Top checkboxes, the ruling is often applied to the left and 
right sides of the cell.


- When I try to apply custom ruling to the top of a cell, it often does 
not work until I go into the bottom cell and select Top, and then select 
go into the top cell and select Bottom.


FrameMaker is still better than Word, but for the price you pay I think 
they should fix these bugs. The ruling bugs are particularly annoying.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Rick Quatro wrote:

Shmuel,

What do you mean that table ruling does not work correctly? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


- Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.

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Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133




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Re: Frame Improvements

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Shmuel,

In all of my years of working with FrameMaker, I have never seen any of 
these bugs.


Rick


Are all these bugs, or am I doing something wrong?
There seem to be several bugs in table ruling:

- When a heading row repeats on 2 or more pages, the ruling at the bottom 
of the table, and underneath the header row row are not always the correct 
ruling style. I have to apply the ruling manually.


- When I apply custom ruling and shading, to a row and select only the 
Bottom and Top checkboxes, the ruling is often applied to the left and 
right sides of the cell.


- When I try to apply custom ruling to the top of a cell, it often does 
not work until I go into the bottom cell and select Top, and then select 
go into the top cell and select Bottom.


FrameMaker is still better than Word, but for the price you pay I think 
they should fix these bugs. The ruling bugs are particularly annoying.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Rick Quatro wrote:

Shmuel,


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Re: Conditions that won't go away

[rebecca officer]

I have dim memories of a plug-in for clearing condition tags from
books.

Failing that, you can delete the tag out of the book by saving the book
as a MIF file, opening it in a text editor, searching for the tag's
definition in the condition catalog, and deleting it.

After you've done that, check that the tag hasn't snuck back into your
files. Also check generated files, backups (delete the book backup
file), templates etc.

It can be really hard to get rid of a condition tag permanently!

Cheers, Rebecca


 Martinek, Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/03/07 04:55 
OK, I'm stumped.  Here's the situation:
 
I used Framescript to rename a conditional tag before I send a set of
book files out to someone else (renamed it to something making more
sense.)  For this email, consider the tags as OLDTAG and NEWTAG.
 
I then deleted all unused condition tags using the PGFWhopper plugin.
OLDTAG showed as one of the tags that was deleted, and OLDTAG no
longer
exists in ANY document in the book (I checked each file to make sure).
When I check the text with the condition applied, it shows as NEWTAG
 
However, when I go to show/hide conditions at the book level, OLDTAG
still shows there, and NEWTAG does not.  I've generated/updated the
book
file, saved all the files, closed and restarted Frame, and it's still
happening.
 
Any suggestions?
 
 
-Carla
 
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Table Question (wrapping onto 2nd page)

[Jonathan Pechta]

Greetings all,

I have a table question that I can not seem to resolve (Frame 6.0). I 
have a table where the first 3 rows are duplicating themselves on the 
next page when the table wraps across a page separator.


Is there a way to remove this wrapping effect, or is this a bug in FM6.0 
and I need to make a secondary table for the information flowing onto 
the next page?


Thanks for the help,

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looking for a way to automate alignment in tables

[Cybele Knowles]

At my job we use unstructured Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. We often typeset
tables that contain columns of numbers. In these columns, we vertically
align cell contents on the decimal. We do it by manually, adding numerical
spaces and hard spaces at the beginning of cell contents where needed. We'd
like to find a way to automate this. For example, we'd like to be able to
drag-select a column and then press a button that says Align on decimal or
some such. Although we have no experience with Frame plugins, I'm wondering
if an existing or custom plugin could be a solution. I'm writing you wise
people to get some advice. Do you think a plugin could help? If so, do you
have recommendations for companies that write plugins? Or is there any other
solution? Thanks very much in advance for any help you can give. --Cybele

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Re: looking for a way to automate alignment in tables

[hedley . finger]

Cybele:

Just create a special para format just for that column.  Then set a 
decimal tab for that para font and, in the Numbering tab of the Paragraph 
Designer, insert a single tab \t as the number.  Now any figures typed 
into that para format will always align on the decimal tab.

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Re: looking for a way to automate alignment in tables

[Mike Wickham]

At my job we use unstructured Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. We often typeset
tables that contain columns of numbers. In these columns, we vertically
align cell contents on the decimal. We do it by manually, adding numerical
spaces and hard spaces at the beginning of cell contents where needed. 
We'd

like to find a way to automate this.


FrameMaker will handle it for you easily. Assign a paragraph tag to the 
cells in the column. In the Paragraph Designer, on the Basic tab, assign a 
new tab stop at the position you want the decimal. Set it as a Decimal 
tab, and put a period in the Align on box. Click the Continue button, then 
the Update All button. Now, all you have to do is put a tab before each 
number and the numbers will align on the decimal point. (Note: in a table, 
you have to press Esc Tab to enter a tab. Otherwise, a tab moves the cursor 
to the next cell.)


Mike Wickham


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Re: Frame Improvements

[Mike Wickham]

Shmuel,

I don't know if this is the issue for you, but sometimes rules don't display 
correctly onscreen because of the monitor's resolution or screen 
magnification. Let's say the pixels on your screen are 1 point apart, and 
you have a 0.5 pt rule. At 100% magnification, It has to be rounded up or 
down to display . So either you get a fat 1-pixel rule or an invisible 
0-pixel rule on screen. Zoom in, though, and you'll see that everything is 
alright because it now takes multiple pixels to display the same line and 
less or no rounding is used. Maybe you just need to view your rules at a 
higher percentage magnification, or upgrade to a higher resolution monitor 
for more accurate display?


Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Framers 
framers@lists.frameusers.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: Frame Improvements




Are all these bugs, or am I doing something wrong?
There seem to be several bugs in table ruling:

- When a heading row repeats on 2 or more pages, the ruling at the bottom 
of the table, and underneath the header row row are not always the correct 
ruling style. I have to apply the ruling manually.


- When I apply custom ruling and shading, to a row and select only the 
Bottom and Top checkboxes, the ruling is often applied to the left and 
right sides of the cell.


- When I try to apply custom ruling to the top of a cell, it often does 
not work until I go into the bottom cell and select Top, and then select 
go into the top cell and select Bottom.


FrameMaker is still better than Word, but for the price you pay I think 
they should fix these bugs. The ruling bugs are particularly annoying.


Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



Rick Quatro wrote:

Shmuel,

What do you mean that table ruling does not work correctly? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


- Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.

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RE: Frame's future

[Sean Pollock]

When in doubt, fib. You can almost always get an evaluation version of, or
book on, the tool for which a company requires knowledge. If you know XML,
the tool usually isn't going to be that hard to learn.

I got my first tech writing job with no knowledge of Frame in 1997 and was
training others a month later. I'm no Einstein, I just looked up the
information I needed.

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At 8:29 PM -0500 3/4/07, Sean Pollock wrote:
Why be afraid of Frame's possible demise? XML is the future, and Frame is
just a tool, and should never be the source. There will be (actually,
already are) new tools, Frame ain't all that anyway. Seems like I've been
using it forever--I look forward to the day that something else will
improve
on it.

Sean Pollock
UGS Corp.

What concerns me is that many of these tools are Enterprise level. 
Meaning that they are too expensive to be purchased by a single 
person, and often require a server from which to run. What that 
means, is that companies will segregate writers into those who know 
the tools, and those who don't. If you want to get a job, you have to 
know the tools. Most companies don't want to teach you to use them. 
They want you to know them already. They won't care if you know XML 
or SGML. They will focus on the tool.

Scott
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Re: Conditions that won't go away

[David Schor]

Carla,

Perhaps OLDTAG appears somewhere on a master page or a reference page, such
as a TOC file.

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On 3/7/07, Martinek, Carla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


OK, I'm stumped.  Here's the situation:

I used Framescript to rename a conditional tag before I send a set of
book files out to someone else (renamed it to something making more
sense.)  For this email, consider the tags as OLDTAG and NEWTAG.

I then deleted all unused condition tags using the PGFWhopper plugin.
OLDTAG showed as one of the tags that was deleted, and OLDTAG no longer
exists in ANY document in the book (I checked each file to make sure).
When I check the text with the condition applied, it shows as NEWTAG

However, when I go to show/hide conditions at the book level, OLDTAG
still shows there, and NEWTAG does not.  I've generated/updated the book
file, saved all the files, closed and restarted Frame, and it's still
happening.

Any suggestions?


-Carla

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PDF bookmarks

[Shmuel Wolfson]

Is there any way to have a PDF show you where you are in the bookmark 
pane when you page down or click a cross-reference.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson

Conditions that won't go away

[Martinek, Carla]

OK, I'm stumped.  Here's the situation:

I used Framescript to rename a conditional tag before I send a set of
book files out to someone else (renamed it to something making more
sense.)  For this email, consider the tags as OLDTAG and NEWTAG.

I then deleted all unused condition tags using the PGFWhopper plugin.
OLDTAG showed as one of the tags that was deleted, and OLDTAG no longer
exists in ANY document in the book (I checked each file to make sure).
When I check the text with the condition applied, it shows as NEWTAG

However, when I go to show/hide conditions at the book level, OLDTAG
still shows there, and NEWTAG does not.  I've generated/updated the book
file, saved all the files, closed and restarted Frame, and it's still
happening.

Any suggestions?


-Carla

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Table Question (wrapping onto 2nd page)

[Jonathan Pechta]

Greetings all,

I have a table question that I can not seem to resolve (Frame 6.0). I 
have a table where the first 3 rows are duplicating themselves on the 
next page when the table wraps across a page separator.

Is there a way to remove this wrapping effect, or is this a bug in FM6.0 
and I need to make a secondary table for the information flowing onto 
the next page?

Thanks for the help,

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Fax: (248) 477-8897

looking for a way to automate alignment in tables

[Cybele Knowles]

At my job we use unstructured Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. We often typeset
tables that contain columns of numbers. In these columns, we vertically
align cell contents on the decimal. We do it by manually, adding numerical
spaces and hard spaces at the beginning of cell contents where needed. We'd
like to find a way to automate this. For example, we'd like to be able to
drag-select a column and then press a button that says "Align on decimal" or
some such. Although we have no experience with Frame plugins, I'm wondering
if an existing or custom plugin could be a solution. I'm writing you wise
people to get some advice. Do you think a plugin could help? If so, do you
have recommendations for companies that write plugins? Or is there any other
solution? Thanks very much in advance for any help you can give. --Cybele

looking for a way to automate alignment in tables

[Mike Wickham]

> At my job we use unstructured Frame 7.2 on Windows XP. We often typeset
> tables that contain columns of numbers. In these columns, we vertically
> align cell contents on the decimal. We do it by manually, adding numerical
> spaces and hard spaces at the beginning of cell contents where needed. 
> We'd
> like to find a way to automate this.

FrameMaker will handle it for you easily. Assign a paragraph tag to the 
cells in the column. In the Paragraph Designer, on the Basic tab, assign a 
new tab stop at the position you want the decimal. Set it as a "Decimal" 
tab, and put a period in the "Align on" box. Click the Continue button, then 
the Update All button. Now, all you have to do is put a tab before each 
number and the numbers will align on the decimal point. (Note: in a table, 
you have to press Esc Tab to enter a tab. Otherwise, a tab moves the cursor 
to the next cell.)

Mike Wickham

Frame Improvements

[Mike Wickham]

Shmuel,

I don't know if this is the issue for you, but sometimes rules don't display 
correctly onscreen because of the monitor's resolution or screen 
magnification. Let's say the pixels on your screen are 1 point apart, and 
you have a 0.5 pt rule. At 100% magnification, It has to be rounded up or 
down to display . So either you get a fat 1-pixel rule or an invisible 
0-pixel rule on screen. Zoom in, though, and you'll see that everything is 
alright because it now takes multiple pixels to display the same line and 
less or no rounding is used. Maybe you just need to view your rules at a 
higher percentage magnification, or upgrade to a higher resolution monitor 
for more accurate display?

Mike Wickham

- Original Message - 
From: "Shmuel Wolfson" 
To: "Rick Quatro" ; "Framers" 

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: Frame Improvements


>
> Are all these bugs, or am I doing something wrong?
> There seem to be several bugs in table ruling:
>
> - When a heading row repeats on 2 or more pages, the ruling at the bottom 
> of the table, and underneath the header row row are not always the correct 
> ruling style. I have to apply the ruling manually.
>
> - When I apply custom ruling and shading, to a row and select only the 
> Bottom and Top checkboxes, the ruling is often applied to the left and 
> right sides of the cell.
>
> - When I try to apply custom ruling to the top of a cell, it often does 
> not work until I go into the bottom cell and select Top, and then select 
> go into the top cell and select Bottom.
>
> FrameMaker is still better than Word, but for the price you pay I think 
> they should fix these bugs. The ruling bugs are particularly annoying.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro wrote:
>> Shmuel,
>>
>> What do you mean that table ruling does not work correctly? Thanks.
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing
>> 585-659-8267
>> www.frameexpert.com
>>
>>> - Table ruling does not work correctly. Please fix it.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards,
>>> Shmuel Wolfson
>>> 052-763-7133
>>
>>
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