ANN: German FrameMaker Mailing List relocated

[Michael Müller-Hillebrand]

This applies to German reading FrameMaker users that might not have  
received a message about the new home for a frameusers-de mailing  
list.

After the latest failing of the previous, privately hosted list  
server (talk at framemaker.de) we took advantage of the silently  
existing mirror of messages since September 2006 on the Google Groups  
server. If you are interested, please visit

http://groups.google.com/group/frameusers-de?hl=de

Thanks,

- Michael

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RE: Crossing out a table cell

[mathieu jacquet]

Thank you everyone for your help. I'll try that right now.

Yours,
Mathieu.


 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:29:54 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Crossing out a table cell
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 In a graphic frame, draw a diagonal line. If you want the labels to
 have paragraph formats, draw text frames with the text-frame Graphics
 tool above and below the line, type the labels, tag them with
 paragraph format tags, and rotate them to the angle you want (Alt+drag
 the selected text frames). If you only want character-formatted text,
 you can use the Text Line A Graphics tool. Adjust the graphic frame
 size and the position of its contained items. Copy and paste the
 graphic frame into the cell; it becomes an anchored frame. Position
 the anchored frame to At Insertion Point. Adjust the Basic properties
 of the paragraph that contains the anchored frame to zero space above
 and below, and the Table Cell properties to zero or negative cell
 margins all around as needed. Resize the cell width and height as
 needed.
 
 InDesign's diagonal cell lines are easy to specify as cell properties,
 but you still need to tweak the text manually.
 
 HTH
 Regards,
 
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Condtion color and change bar not showing

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

I was updating a file (chapter) of a book yesterday (regular, not
structured). It had been set up with conditions (deleted, inserted),
the deleted condition hidden and everything else showing in B/W and
no change bars.

I deleted all older conditions deleted. Now I wanted the new
revision to show the appropriate colors for deleted and inserted
and found the condition tags to show inserted as green and deleted
as red, both with the change bar set to show. However all attempts to
show color or change bar were unsuccessful. I made a new color tag and
changed the inserted condition tag to show the new color, but still
no luck. So my final attempt to solve the problem was to run a compare
on the new v/s the old file and get the fresh changes in full color in
the CMP file. But I still cannot guess what was wrong with the
original file I was working on. I tried to mif-wash the file and no
luck. I tried to mif it and search for something that would shed a
light, but I found nothing that I could really point a finger at. At
least it seemed to me that the conditions were not set in a set of
opening and closing tag, rather that a condition was set until it was
overridden by another condition tag.

Can anyone shed a light on this for me?

Thanks,

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Adobe Technical Communication Suite 1.3 Announced

[Vivek Jain]

* Adobe Post


Adobe Technical Communication Suite
(www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite) has been updated
today. Technical Communication Suite 1.3 now contains the new Adobe
Acrobat 9 Pro Extended.  Technical Communication Suite customers can
purchase an upgrade that includes Acrobat 9 Pro Extended.  Adobe Acrobat
9 Pro Extended is a superset of Acrobat 9 Pro, all the powerful 3D
features, and Adobe Presenter, Adobe LiveCycle Designer ES, and Adobe 3D
Reviewer software. With Presenter, you can add video, voice-over, demos,
and interactive quizzes to Microsoft PowerPoint slides, and then output
to PDF for reliable, cross-platform sharing. I am sure learning
professionals will love this new and exciting feature. 

With Acrobat 9 Pro Extended, you can now deliver the richest, most
engaging PDFs with new support for videos and portfolios.  

*   Easily share video in PDF - Convert a variety of video formats
to FLV for reliable, cross-platform sharing of video, animations, and
applications in PDF documents. With native support for Adobe Flash
technology, no additional media player is necessary for playback. 
*   Insert video in PDF - Embed video in Microsoft Word or
PowerPoint and convert to FLV in PDF or insert FLV or H.264 video in PDF
files for direct playback in Acrobat and Adobe Reader. 
*   Easily review video - Comment on video using any of the
commenting and markup tools to add feedback to a specific frame. 
*   Unify the widest range of content in a PDF Portfolio - Assemble
documents, drawings, e-mail, spreadsheets, and rich media - including
audio, video, 3D, and maps - in a single, compressed PDF Portfolio. 
*   Use professionally designed templates - Choose one of many
professional templates to quickly integrate content, define navigation,
and add polish to your PDF Portfolio. Add your logo and include
descriptions to guide recipients through the contents. 
I have not listed the most compelling 3D features here (that is for
another blog post).  For more details on features, please click here -
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatproextended/features/ 

Acrobat.com services are now available (announced simultaneously) that
enable you to store and share large documents, collect form data, and
review documents with virtually anyone across the world.

Thanks and regards
Vivek Jain
 
Group Product Manager, Adobe Systems
Adobe Technical Communication Suite, FrameMaker and  RoboHelp
www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
blog- http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/
RoboHelp Packager for Adobe AIR-
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/robohelp/
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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[International DTP]

Hi, did anyone notice if this change of the registry key affects the
behavior of the numeric key pad for other use? i.e. does the normal ALT
sequence for ASCII characters still work?


Vriendelijke groet,

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:52:50 -0500
From: Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document
To: Klaus Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED],Frame Users
framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
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 The first method described here (How to enter Unicode characters
 in Microsoft Windows)
 http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm
 does work for me in FM8.
 You probably need to set the registry key EnableHexNumpad as described.

Thanks! Adding the registry key got it working for me.

Mike Wickham 

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RE: Crossing out a table cell

[Lehner, Oliver (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Hi Mathieu,

If you need your diagonal line to appear in more table cells and don't
want to copy/paste the anchored frame every time:
Copy the frame including the line and paste it to the Reference pages. 
Upon paste, FM displays a dialog window. Enter a descriptive name for
your new reference frame. 
Create a new (or modify a) format in the Paragraph editor. 
In the formats' Advanced tab, select your reference frame from the
Frame below/above Pgf dropdown field.
Assign this para format to table cells that need to be crossed out.

This method wont't work if you want the crossed out cells to contain
text too.

HTH
Oliver


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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:54:57 +
From: mathieu jacquet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Crossing out a table cell
To: Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com
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Thank you everyone for your help. I'll try that right now.

Yours,
Mathieu.


 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:29:54 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Crossing out a table cell
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 In a graphic frame, draw a diagonal line. If you want the labels to
 have paragraph formats, draw text frames with the text-frame Graphics
 tool above and below the line, type the labels, tag them with
 paragraph format tags, and rotate them to the angle you want (Alt+drag
 the selected text frames). If you only want character-formatted text,
 you can use the Text Line A Graphics tool. Adjust the graphic frame
 size and the position of its contained items. Copy and paste the
 graphic frame into the cell; it becomes an anchored frame. Position
 the anchored frame to At Insertion Point. Adjust the Basic properties
 of the paragraph that contains the anchored frame to zero space above
 and below, and the Table Cell properties to zero or negative cell
 margins all around as needed. Resize the cell width and height as
 needed.
 
 InDesign's diagonal cell lines are easy to specify as cell properties,
 but you still need to tweak the text manually.
 
 HTH
 Regards,
 
 Peter
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Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[Mike Wickham]

 Hi, did anyone notice if this change of the registry key affects the
 behavior of the numeric key pad for other use? i.e. does the normal ALT
 sequence for ASCII characters still work?

I noticed no change. The alt keypad keys still work normally-- hold down the 
alt key, type the four digit extended ASCII code, and then release the alt 
key. For Unicode characters, you hold down the alt key, _press and release 
the plus key_, press and release the Unicode code numbers/letters, and then 
release the alt key. Of course, the font must support those Unicode 
characters.

Mike Wickham


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sorting lists

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi all!

I'm running Framemaker 8.0 on an XP PC.

In our document, we have an illustration of an assembly, then a list
of the parts that make up that assembly.  If we have three
illustrations, then we have three parts lists.

We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we take
the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and sort
them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.

Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?

Thanks!

Deirdre
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Re: anchored frame alignment with insertion point

[Peter Gold]

You can align a selected inline (at insertion point) anchored frame
with the same keystroke combination that you use to move selected
graphic objects, Alt+arrow. You can also specify the frame's position
above or below the text baseline in the Anchored Frame dialog box (use
leading minus for moving down). This same Alt+arrow technique works to
move selected text above or below the baseline, or left and right.

HTH

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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Aravindhan T S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 please see the image.
 http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7730/imagealignmenttv2.png

 The context with the box is how i want the image to be. where the icon is
 aligned in the middle of the line. I'm manually resizing the anchored frame
 to acheive this.

 Aravind
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Re: anchored frame alignment with insertion point

[Stuart Rogers]

Aravindhan T S wrote:
 Hi,
 
 please see the image.
 http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7730/imagealignmenttv2.png
 
 The context with the box is how i want the image to be. where the icon is
 aligned in the middle of the line. I'm manually resizing the anchored frame
 to acheive this.


Aravind,

I don't know of an automated way to do this, but I have a couple of 
suggestions.

-- To eliminate extra space that will mess up your vertical separations 
between lines, use the shrink-wrap command (Esc m p) to reduce the 
anchored frame to exactly the size of its contents.

-- After you shrink the frame, select it again and set the Distance 
above Baseline to a negative number.  (You'll have to experiment to find 
the right setting, but -3 or -5 is likely to work.)  If you have to do 
this often, be sure to learn the keyboard shortcuts:

Alt+s a to open the anchored frame dialog box
Alt+d   to select the Distance value
Enter   to close the dialog box after typing the new value



-- If all your icons are the same size, you can save a suitably sized 
and distanced empty anchored frame in a text frame on a reference page. 
  Before importing the first graphic, copy and paste from the ref. page 
into your body page, then (with the frame still selected) import the 
graphic file.

-- The anchored frame dialog box settings will persist until you change 
them or until you use File  Import  File with no anchored frame 
selected.  Therefore, if you create one properly distanced anchored 
frame, you can save time by inserting the next anchored frame *before* 
importing the next graphic, then shrink-wrapping.  The Distance setting 
will be unaffected.

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Some people place their chairs facing the rear of the ship so they can 
see where they've been. Other people face their chairs forward -- they 
want to see where they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way 
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Re: sorting lists

[Stuart Rogers]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:

 
 We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we take
 the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and sort
 them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.
 
 Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?
 

Put them in a table and sort the table.
See the Help topic, Sorting columns and rows.

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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want to see where they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way 
is your deck chair facing?

Charlie Brown: I've never been able to get one unfolded.

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Re: sorting lists

[Deirdre Reagan]

Excellent!  Thank you so much,

Deirdre

On 6/3/08, Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Deirdre Reagan wrote:

 
  We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we take
  the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and sort
  them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.
 
  Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?
 
 

 Put them in a table and sort the table.
 See the Help topic, Sorting columns and rows.

 --
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 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 Toronto, ON, Canada
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: sorting lists

[Kelly McDaniel]

Set the table borders to None if you want the benefits of a table
without the borders...Kelly.

 -Original Message-
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Reagan
 Sent: 2008-06-03 09:49
 To: Stuart Rogers; Frame Users
 Subject: Re: sorting lists
 
 Excellent!  Thank you so much,
 
 Deirdre
 
 On 6/3/08, Stuart Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Deirdre Reagan wrote:
 
  
   We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we
take
   the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and
sort
   them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.
  
   Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?
  
  
 
  Put them in a table and sort the table.
  See the Help topic, Sorting columns and rows.
 
  --
  Stuart Rogers
  Technical Communicator
  Phoenix Geophysics Limited
  Toronto, ON, Canada
  +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
 
  srogers phoenix-geophysics com
 
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Passengers
  open up these canvas deck chairs so they can sit in the sun. Some
people
  place their chairs facing the rear of the ship so they can see where
they've
  been. Other people face their chairs forward -- they want to see
where
  they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way is your deck
chair
  facing?
 
  Charlie Brown: I've never been able to get one unfolded.
 
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Hello Framers:

 

We are doing a Book and when we update and then try to save we get the
following message:

 

Internal Error 7204, 5158200, 5112308, 5159521, FM has detected a
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Thanks

 

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Error message

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers:

 

We are doing a Book and when we update and then try to save we get the
following message:

 

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RE: Error message

[Combs, Richard]

Harold Winberg wrote: 
 
 We are doing a Book and when we update and then try to save we get the
 following message:
 
 
 
 Internal Error 7204, 5158200, 5112308, 5159521, FM has detected a serious
 problem and must quit.
 
 
 
 A file named c:\program files\adobe\framemaker
 7.2\frameLog_08.06.03_16.55.42.txt has been generated which contains info
 that may help FM development improve the product for future use.
 
 
 
 Please describe your recent actions and send this, and the generated file,
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Due to the volume of feedback, we are unable to respond to tech questions.
 
 
 
 For support refer to http://www.adobe.com/support.
 
 
 
 
 
 Thanks

So, what's your question? 

If you want help fixing the error, you'll need to provide more information. 
Start with FM version and OS. Then describe more specifically the steps leading 
up to the crash, beginning with what doing a Book means. 

Next, tell us what standard troubleshooting you've done, potential causes 
you've eliminated, and anything you've learned. For instance, have you checked 
your free disk space and swap file size? Have you defragged your disk and 
cleaned up temporary files? Have you opened all the files in the book before 
replicating your steps? Have you removed one file from the book at a time and 
repeated your steps to see if you can link the crash to a specific file? 

AFAIK, FM's error numbers aren't something any of us can decipher. I suspect 
we've all seen the rest of the crash message, and it doesn't really help. :-}

Richard


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Save As PDF problem

[Chuck Heinrichs]

I stumped with senior moment saving FM 8.0p277 doc to PDF with 
Acrobat Pro 8.1.2.
FM is on F drive and Acrobat is on C drive.
Message says, To execute 'Save As PDF' command you must have Acrobat 
Distiller 5.05 or higher installed.
Would appreciate some assistance.

Thanks,
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Printing Error with FM

[Tim Lewis]

I had been printing my FM 7.1 and 8.0 files with referenced Illustrator CS2
art on my aging PS printer (Postscript 2). I installed Adobe CS3 over the
weekend and created new illustrations in Illustrator CS3. These new
illustrations are referenced into my FM document, as in the past. However,
they will not print on my printer. The error says, ERROR: undefined,
OFFENDING COMMAND: get. A list of STACK is included with the error. 

 

I can print the illustration directly from Illustrator and I can make a PDF
from the FM file and then print the PDF with no problem. I tried saving the
art as CS2 and CS. I also set the Postscript to 2. Nothing works so far.

 

I called Adobe support and was told that the new Illustrator CS3 uses PS 3
and something in FM does not interpret something. Before I head out to buy a
newer printer, does anyone have a suggestion to make the CS3 art print from
the FM document (without making a PDF first)?

 

Tim Lewis

Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.

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RE: Save As PDF problem

[Dov Isaacs]

Based strictly on the information you have provided, you are doing
nothing wrong. FrameMaker 8 is compatible with Acrobat 8.x.

I would try simply rebooting and seeing whether the problem
persists.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Heinrichs
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:50 AM

 I stumped with senior moment saving FM 8.0p277 doc to PDF with
 Acrobat Pro 8.1.2.
 FM is on F drive and Acrobat is on C drive.
 Message says, To execute 'Save As PDF' command you must have Acrobat
 Distiller 5.05 or higher installed.
 Would appreciate some assistance.

 Thanks,
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RE: Printing Error with FM

[Dov Isaacs]

What is not clear from your description is exactly WHAT you are referencing
in your FrameMaker documents. If you are referencing a .AI file, you are in
effect referencing a PDF 1.3 file; FrameMaker really knows nothing about
the Illustrator document format but rather is able to convert the PDF inside
a .AI file saved with the PDF compatibility option to EPS when importing;
that's what really happens.

Thus, what probably happened was the equivalent of placing an EPS file with
PostScript 3 constructs into your FramMaker document. When you printed directly
from FrameMaker, the PostScript 3 is what choked your printer. Of course,
if you created PDF and printed from that (by the way, a much better solution
in general than EVER printing directly from FrameMaker), as you found,
Acrobat (or Reader) has the smarts to downgrade to PostScript language level 2
constructs as necessary for your PostScript Level 2 device.

Here are your alternatives:

(1) Continue what you are doing and always print from Acrobat or Reader
instead of FrameMaker (not a bad choice in the general case -- this is
something I personally do with most all applications these days! I get to
see on-screen what I will print and do some cursory pre-flight to avoid
wasted printing).

(2) Save your Illustrator documents as EPS language level 2 and import
those into FrameMaker instead. This will pessimize things such as gradients,
but otherwise you should be OK.

(3) There is a maker.ini setting for controlling the conversion of PDF
to EPS (I don't have a reference with me for the exact setting). Change that
to indicate PostScript language level 2 instead of 3 (ironically, I thought
that the default for that was 2, not 3!)

(4) Go out and buy a new printer. If you are happy with the printer you
currently have, this is the most ridiculous solution!

Personally, I'd go with solution (1).

- Dov


 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Lewis
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:38 PM

 I had been printing my FM 7.1 and 8.0 files with referenced Illustrator CS2
 art on my aging PS printer (Postscript 2). I installed Adobe CS3 over the
 weekend and created new illustrations in Illustrator CS3. These new
 illustrations are referenced into my FM document, as in the past. However,
 they will not print on my printer. The error says, ERROR: undefined,
 OFFENDING COMMAND: get. A list of STACK is included with the error.

 I can print the illustration directly from Illustrator and I can make a PDF
 from the FM file and then print the PDF with no problem. I tried saving the
 art as CS2 and CS. I also set the Postscript to 2. Nothing works so far.

 I called Adobe support and was told that the new Illustrator CS3 uses PS 3
 and something in FM does not interpret something. Before I head out to buy a
 newer printer, does anyone have a suggestion to make the CS3 art print from
 the FM document (without making a PDF first)?

 Tim Lewis

 Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.

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Need help with Para and Chapter numbering

[Alan Litchfield]

Hi John,

Easiest thing would be to go to FM's help and either do a search on paragraph
numbering or scroll through the ToC. The help actually does in this case.
There are lots of examples of how numbering can be achieved.

Then if you need help in a specific kind of sense, then I am certain there are
many who will be only too pleased to help out.

Cheers
Alan

John Olds wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just started a new assignment that requires that I use  Frame for the first
> time in 4 years.   I need a quick refresher in how to set up Chapter, section
> and paragragh numbering.  e.g., chapter1.0 , section 1.1, Para 1.1.1 etc.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> Best Regards,
> John Olds
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[Fwd: Re: "Adobe FrameMaker 8.0.4 failed to install"]

[Hedley Finger]

All:

The saga continues ...

> Hedley Finger wrote:
> The Adobe Updater recognised that I didn't have the latest update.
> Captivate and RoboHelp were updated successfully but not FrameMaker.
> Why is this?  I have also set preferences so that the updater will check
> automatically but it never does.  This is a bog standard installation in
> the default directory on Windows XP, which itself has had all updates
> installed.
Fred Staal responded:
> When I tried to install the 8.04 update I got this message:
>
> "You do not have the correct version of FM install on your system. This patch 
> installer will work only with Version 8 p276 build. Patch installer will quit 
> now."
>
> And, of course, when I check FM Help>About, it is version 8.0p276. ... This 
> update is incredibly INEPT for a world-class software company. It doesn't 
> work, the error message syntax is faulty ("You do not have the correct 
> version of FM [install] on your system.") - it has the feel of a rush job 
> from a software trainee.
>

I eventually got the 8.04 update from Michael M?ller-Hillebrand's site.
Quite a few tries were needed to get the installation to happen.  Let me
tell you about just two of them:

@ Double-clicking the installer briefly showed the language-choice
dialogue which vanished before I could click OK to accept the default
English choice.  A progress bar briefly showed, then vanished.  TWO
framemaker804.exe processes had started up but also a mysterious
adproxy.exe (what is this?), then the whole shebang hung for ages until
I killed off the whole thing.  But somewhere early in the piece some
flag had been set which prevented me from launching the installer again.

@  Rebooted the computer and launched the installer again.  This time no
dialogues appeared but the three (count 'em) mysterious processes all
started up and hung again.

Variations of this scenario, including many reboots, occurred many
times.  Finally, I had the cursor poised near where the elusive and
evanescent language-choice dialogue would appear and, as soon as it did,
quickly clicked OK.  This final time the installation fileset was
unpacked complete with progress bar and the familiar dark aqua installer
circa Windows 95 filled up the screen and the installation ran to
successful completion.

Question: Why doesn't the FM start-up splash and About FrameMaker show
v. 8.04 instead of the more obscure 8.0p277?  Or why doesn't the updater
or Adobe's download pages show 8.0p277?

Keep up the World's Best Practice Benchmark Updater technology, Adobe!
Or are the strange grammar and content of error messages and the poor
software builds a consequence of shifting development to India?  If some
quality control doesn't start happening Adobe will see their reputation
eroding away.

Regards,
Hedley

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Crossing out a table cell

[mathieu jacquet]

Thank you everyone for your help. I'll try that right now.

Yours,
Mathieu.


> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:29:54 -0500
> From: peter at knowhowpro.com
> Subject: Re: Crossing out a table cell
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> In a graphic frame, draw a diagonal line. If you want the labels to
> have paragraph formats, draw text frames with the text-frame Graphics
> tool above and below the line, type the labels, tag them with
> paragraph format tags, and rotate them to the angle you want (Alt+drag
> the selected text frames). If you only want character-formatted text,
> you can use the Text Line "A" Graphics tool. Adjust the graphic frame
> size and the position of its contained items. Copy and paste the
> graphic frame into the cell; it becomes an anchored frame. Position
> the anchored frame to At Insertion Point. Adjust the Basic properties
> of the paragraph that contains the anchored frame to zero space above
> and below, and the Table Cell properties to zero or negative cell
> margins all around as needed. Resize the cell width and height as
> needed.
> 
> InDesign's diagonal cell lines are easy to specify as cell properties,
> but you still need to tweak the text manually.
> 
> HTH
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
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This applies to German reading FrameMaker users that might not have  
received a message about the new home for a "frameusers-de" mailing  
list.

After the latest failing of the previous, privately hosted list  
server (talk at framemaker.de) we took advantage of the silently  
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Condtion color and change bar not showing

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

I was updating a file (chapter) of a book yesterday (regular, not
structured). It had been set up with conditions (deleted, inserted),
the "deleted" condition hidden and everything else showing in B/W and
no change bars.

I deleted all older conditions "deleted". Now I wanted the new
revision to show the appropriate colors for "deleted" and "inserted"
and found the condition tags to show "inserted" as green and "deleted"
as red, both with the change bar set to show. However all attempts to
show color or change bar were unsuccessful. I made a new color tag and
changed the "inserted" condition tag to show the new color, but still
no luck. So my final attempt to solve the problem was to run a compare
on the new v/s the old file and get the fresh changes in full color in
the CMP file. But I still cannot guess what was wrong with the
original file I was working on. I tried to mif-wash the file and no
luck. I tried to mif it and search for something that would shed a
light, but I found nothing that I could really point a finger at. At
least it seemed to me that the conditions were not set in a set of
opening and closing tag, rather that a condition was set until it was
overridden by another condition tag.

Can anyone shed a light on this for me?

Thanks,

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

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Crossing out a table cell

[Lehner, Oliver (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Hi Mathieu,

If you need your diagonal line to appear in more table cells and don't
want to copy/paste the anchored frame every time:
Copy the frame including the line and paste it to the Reference pages. 
Upon paste, FM displays a dialog window. Enter a descriptive name for
your new "reference frame". 
Create a new (or modify a) format in the Paragraph editor. 
In the formats' "Advanced" tab, select your reference frame from the
"Frame below/above Pgf" dropdown field.
Assign this para format to table cells that need to be crossed out.

This method wont't work if you want the crossed out cells to contain
text too.

HTH
Oliver


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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:54:57 +
From: mathieu jacquet 
Subject: RE: Crossing out a table cell
To: Framers 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Thank you everyone for your help. I'll try that right now.

Yours,
Mathieu.


> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:29:54 -0500
> From: peter at knowhowpro.com
> Subject: Re: Crossing out a table cell
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> In a graphic frame, draw a diagonal line. If you want the labels to
> have paragraph formats, draw text frames with the text-frame Graphics
> tool above and below the line, type the labels, tag them with
> paragraph format tags, and rotate them to the angle you want (Alt+drag
> the selected text frames). If you only want character-formatted text,
> you can use the Text Line "A" Graphics tool. Adjust the graphic frame
> size and the position of its contained items. Copy and paste the
> graphic frame into the cell; it becomes an anchored frame. Position
> the anchored frame to At Insertion Point. Adjust the Basic properties
> of the paragraph that contains the anchored frame to zero space above
> and below, and the Table Cell properties to zero or negative cell
> margins all around as needed. Resize the cell width and height as
> needed.
> 
> InDesign's diagonal cell lines are easy to specify as cell properties,
> but you still need to tweak the text manually.
> 
> HTH
> Regards,
> 
> Peter
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Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document

[International DTP]

Hi, did anyone notice if this change of the registry key affects the
behavior of the numeric key pad for other use? i.e. does the normal ALT
sequence for ASCII characters still work?


Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

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DTP and Documentation Consultancy

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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:52:50 -0500
From: "Mike Wickham" 
Subject: Re: Entering unicode characters directly in an FM 8 document
To: "Klaus Mueller" ,  "Frame Users"

Message-ID: <7E35EBB72A764457B27D4FE996A16025 at plecopress>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

> The first method described here ("How to enter Unicode characters
> in Microsoft Windows")
> http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm
> does work for me in FM8.
> You probably need to set the registry key EnableHexNumpad as described.

Thanks! Adding the registry key got it working for me.

Mike Wickham 

anchored frame alignment with insertion point

[Peter Gold]

You can align a selected inline (at insertion point) anchored frame
with the same keystroke combination that you use to move selected
graphic objects, Alt+arrow. You can also specify the frame's position
above or below the text baseline in the Anchored Frame dialog box (use
leading minus for moving down). This same Alt+arrow technique works to
move selected text above or below the baseline, or left and right.

HTH

Regards,

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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Aravindhan T S  
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> please see the image.
> http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7730/imagealignmenttv2.png
>
> The context with the box is how i want the image to be. where the icon is
> aligned in the middle of the line. I'm manually resizing the anchored frame
> to acheive this.
>
> Aravind

sorting lists

[Deirdre Reagan]

Hi all!

I'm running Framemaker 8.0 on an XP PC.

In our document, we have an illustration of an assembly, then a list
of the parts that make up that assembly.  If we have three
illustrations, then we have three parts lists.

We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we take
the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and sort
them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.

Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?

Thanks!

Deirdre

sorting lists

[Stuart Rogers]

Deirdre Reagan wrote:

> 
> We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we take
> the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and sort
> them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.
> 
> Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?
> 

Put them in a table and sort the table.
See the Help topic, Sorting columns and rows.

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Lucy: Charlie Brown, life is like a deck chair on a cruise ship. 
Passengers open up these canvas deck chairs so they can sit in the sun. 
Some people place their chairs facing the rear of the ship so they can 
see where they've been. Other people face their chairs forward -- they 
want to see where they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way 
is your deck chair facing?

Charlie Brown: "I've never been able to get one unfolded."

-- Charles Schulz

sorting lists

[Deirdre Reagan]

Excellent!  Thank you so much,

Deirdre

On 6/3/08, Stuart Rogers  wrote:
> Deirdre Reagan wrote:
>
> >
> > We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we take
> > the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and sort
> > them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.
> >
> > Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?
> >
> >
>
> Put them in a table and sort the table.
> See the Help topic, Sorting columns and rows.
>
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> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> Toronto, ON, Canada
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> srogers phoenix-geophysics com
>
> Lucy: Charlie Brown, life is like a deck chair on a cruise ship. Passengers
> open up these canvas deck chairs so they can sit in the sun. Some people
> place their chairs facing the rear of the ship so they can see where they've
> been. Other people face their chairs forward -- they want to see where
> they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way is your deck chair
> facing?
>
> Charlie Brown: "I've never been able to get one unfolded."
>
> -- Charles Schulz
>

anchored frame alignment with insertion point

[Stuart Rogers]

Aravindhan T S wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> please see the image.
> http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7730/imagealignmenttv2.png
> 
> The context with the box is how i want the image to be. where the icon is
> aligned in the middle of the line. I'm manually resizing the anchored frame
> to acheive this.


Aravind,

I don't know of an automated way to do this, but I have a couple of 
suggestions.

-- To eliminate extra space that will mess up your vertical separations 
between lines, use the shrink-wrap command (Esc m p) to reduce the 
anchored frame to exactly the size of its contents.

-- After you shrink the frame, select it again and set the Distance 
above Baseline to a negative number.  (You'll have to experiment to find 
the right setting, but -3 or -5 is likely to work.)  If you have to do 
this often, be sure to learn the keyboard shortcuts:

Alt+s a to open the anchored frame dialog box
Alt+d   to select the Distance value
Enter   to close the dialog box after typing the new value



-- If all your icons are the same size, you can save a suitably sized 
and distanced empty anchored frame in a text frame on a reference page. 
  Before importing the first graphic, copy and paste from the ref. page 
into your body page, then (with the frame still selected) import the 
graphic file.

-- The anchored frame dialog box settings will persist until you change 
them or until you use File > Import > File with no anchored frame 
selected.  Therefore, if you create one properly distanced anchored 
frame, you can save time by inserting the next anchored frame *before* 
importing the next graphic, then shrink-wrapping.  The Distance setting 
will be unaffected.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Lucy: Charlie Brown, life is like a deck chair on a cruise ship. 
Passengers open up these canvas deck chairs so they can sit in the sun. 
Some people place their chairs facing the rear of the ship so they can 
see where they've been. Other people face their chairs forward -- they 
want to see where they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way 
is your deck chair facing?

Charlie Brown: "I've never been able to get one unfolded."

-- Charles Schulz

sorting lists

[Kelly McDaniel]

Set the table borders to "None" if you want the benefits of a table
without the borders...Kelly.

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
> Sent: 2008-06-03 09:49
> To: Stuart Rogers; Frame Users
> Subject: Re: sorting lists
> 
> Excellent!  Thank you so much,
> 
> Deirdre
> 
> On 6/3/08, Stuart Rogers  wrote:
> > Deirdre Reagan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > We also want a master list of all the parts lists.  Currently, we
take
> > > the three parts lists, transfer them to Excel, combine them and
sort
> > > them in Excel, then bring them back to Framemaker.
> > >
> > > Is there some way to do this work in Framemaker?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Put them in a table and sort the table.
> > See the Help topic, Sorting columns and rows.
> >
> > --
> > Stuart Rogers
> > Technical Communicator
> > Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> > Toronto, ON, Canada
> > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
> >
> > srogers phoenix-geophysics com
> >
> > Lucy: Charlie Brown, life is like a deck chair on a cruise ship.
Passengers
> > open up these canvas deck chairs so they can sit in the sun. Some
people
> > place their chairs facing the rear of the ship so they can see where
they've
> > been. Other people face their chairs forward -- they want to see
where
> > they're going. On the cruise ship of life, which way is your deck
chair
> > facing?
> >
> > Charlie Brown: "I've never been able to get one unfolded."
> >
> > -- Charles Schulz
> >
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No subject

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers:



We are doing a Book and when we update and then try to save we get the
following message:



Internal Error 7204, 5158200, 5112308, 5159521, FM has detected a
serious problem and must quit.



A file named "c:\program files\adobe\framemaker
7.2\frameLog_08.06.03_16.55.42.txt" has been generated which contains
info that may help FM development improve the product for future use.



Please describe your recent actions and send this, and the generated
file, to fmerror at adobe.com.



Due to the volume of feedback, we are unable to respond to tech
questions. Does this mean don't bother to email to the above
address



For support refer to http://www.adobe.com/support.





Thanks



Les Winberg



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Error message

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers:



We are doing a Book and when we update and then try to save we get the
following message:



Internal Error 7204, 5158200, 5112308, 5159521, FM has detected a
serious problem and must quit.



A file named "c:\program files\adobe\framemaker
7.2\frameLog_08.06.03_16.55.42.txt" has been generated which contains
info that may help FM development improve the product for future use.



Please describe your recent actions and send this, and the generated
file, to fmerror at adobe.com.



Due to the volume of feedback, we are unable to respond to tech
questions.



For support refer to http://www.adobe.com/support.





Thanks



Les Winberg



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Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such 
information to others without the Company?s prior consent is prohibited. This 
material also contains technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within 
the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). 
The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or 
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No subject

[Harold Winberg]

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Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such 
information to others without the Company?s prior consent is prohibited. This 
material also contains technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within 
the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). 
The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or 
company without an export license approved by the United States Department of 
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Error message

[Combs, Richard]

Harold Winberg wrote: 

> We are doing a Book and when we update and then try to save we get the
> following message:
> 
> 
> 
> Internal Error 7204, 5158200, 5112308, 5159521, FM has detected a serious
> problem and must quit.
> 
> 
> 
> A file named "c:\program files\adobe\framemaker
> 7.2\frameLog_08.06.03_16.55.42.txt" has been generated which contains info
> that may help FM development improve the product for future use.
> 
> 
> 
> Please describe your recent actions and send this, and the generated file,
> to fmerror at adobe.com.
> 
> 
> 
> Due to the volume of feedback, we are unable to respond to tech questions.
> 
> 
> 
> For support refer to http://www.adobe.com/support.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks

So, what's your question? 

If you want help fixing the error, you'll need to provide more information. 
Start with FM version and OS. Then describe more specifically the steps leading 
up to the crash, beginning with what "doing a Book" means. 

Next, tell us what standard troubleshooting you've done, potential causes 
you've eliminated, and anything you've learned. For instance, have you checked 
your free disk space and swap file size? Have you defragged your disk and 
cleaned up temporary files? Have you opened all the files in the book before 
replicating your steps? Have you removed one file from the book at a time and 
repeated your steps to see if you can link the crash to a specific file? 

AFAIK, FM's error numbers aren't something any of us can decipher. I suspect 
we've all seen the rest of the crash message, and it doesn't really help. :-}

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Save As PDF problem

[Chuck Heinrichs]

I stumped with senior moment saving FM 8.0p277 doc to PDF with 
Acrobat Pro 8.1.2.
FM is on F drive and Acrobat is on C drive.
Message says, "To execute 'Save As PDF' command you must have Acrobat 
Distiller 5.05 or higher installed."
Would appreciate some assistance.

Thanks,
Chuck

Printing Error with FM

[Tim Lewis]

I had been printing my FM 7.1 and 8.0 files with referenced Illustrator CS2
art on my aging PS printer (Postscript 2). I installed Adobe CS3 over the
weekend and created new illustrations in Illustrator CS3. These new
illustrations are referenced into my FM document, as in the past. However,
they will not print on my printer. The error says, "ERROR: undefined,
OFFENDING COMMAND: get." A list of STACK is included with the error. 



I can print the illustration directly from Illustrator and I can make a PDF
from the FM file and then print the PDF with no problem. I tried saving the
art as CS2 and CS. I also set the Postscript to 2. Nothing works so far.



I called Adobe support and was told that the new Illustrator CS3 uses PS 3
and something in FM does not interpret something. Before I head out to buy a
newer printer, does anyone have a suggestion to make the CS3 art print from
the FM document (without making a PDF first)?



Tim Lewis

Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.

  ltc.writer at comcast.net

Save As PDF problem

[Dov Isaacs]

Based strictly on the information you have provided, you are doing
nothing wrong. FrameMaker 8 is compatible with Acrobat 8.x.

I would try simply rebooting and seeing whether the problem
persists.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Heinrichs
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:50 AM
>
> I stumped with senior moment saving FM 8.0p277 doc to PDF with
> Acrobat Pro 8.1.2.
> FM is on F drive and Acrobat is on C drive.
> Message says, "To execute 'Save As PDF' command you must have Acrobat
> Distiller 5.05 or higher installed."
> Would appreciate some assistance.
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck
>

Printing Error with FM

[Dov Isaacs]

What is not clear from your description is exactly WHAT you are referencing
in your FrameMaker documents. If you are referencing a .AI file, you are in
effect referencing a PDF 1.3 file; FrameMaker really knows nothing about
the Illustrator document format but rather is able to convert the PDF inside
a .AI file saved with the PDF compatibility option to EPS when importing;
that's what really happens.

Thus, what probably happened was the equivalent of placing an EPS file with
PostScript 3 constructs into your FramMaker document. When you printed directly
from FrameMaker, the PostScript 3 is what choked your printer. Of course,
if you created PDF and printed from that (by the way, a much better solution
in general than EVER printing directly from FrameMaker), as you found,
Acrobat (or Reader) has the smarts to downgrade to PostScript language level 2
constructs as necessary for your PostScript Level 2 device.

Here are your alternatives:

(1) Continue what you are doing and always print from Acrobat or Reader
instead of FrameMaker (not a bad choice in the general case -- this is
something I personally do with most all applications these days! I get to
see on-screen what I will print and do some cursory pre-flight to avoid
wasted printing).

(2) Save your Illustrator documents as EPS language level 2 and import
those into FrameMaker instead. This will pessimize things such as gradients,
but otherwise you should be OK.

(3) There is a maker.ini setting for controlling the conversion of PDF
to EPS (I don't have a reference with me for the exact setting). Change that
to indicate PostScript language level 2 instead of 3 (ironically, I thought
that the default for that was 2, not 3!)

(4) Go out and buy a new printer. If you are happy with the printer you
currently have, this is the most ridiculous solution!

Personally, I'd go with solution (1).

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Lewis
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:38 PM
>
> I had been printing my FM 7.1 and 8.0 files with referenced Illustrator CS2
> art on my aging PS printer (Postscript 2). I installed Adobe CS3 over the
> weekend and created new illustrations in Illustrator CS3. These new
> illustrations are referenced into my FM document, as in the past. However,
> they will not print on my printer. The error says, "ERROR: undefined,
> OFFENDING COMMAND: get." A list of STACK is included with the error.
>
> I can print the illustration directly from Illustrator and I can make a PDF
> from the FM file and then print the PDF with no problem. I tried saving the
> art as CS2 and CS. I also set the Postscript to 2. Nothing works so far.
>
> I called Adobe support and was told that the new Illustrator CS3 uses PS 3
> and something in FM does not interpret something. Before I head out to buy a
> newer printer, does anyone have a suggestion to make the CS3 art print from
> the FM document (without making a PDF first)?
>
> Tim Lewis
>
> Lewis Technical Communications, Inc.
>
>   ltc.writer at comcast.net