RE: FM9 - Format Change List and Paragraph Tags
Hi Lynne, This makes sense inside a element definition, would you say it also works that way between elements? Currently I have my elements in alphabetical order in the EDD, to make it easier to find the elements that need editing. The format change lists themselves are at the end of the EDD however. In other appliations I worked with grouped elements (like in the DITA app) - but I never encountered this problem before - or may be just didn't notice it. I'll rearrange my EDD and see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker iDTP International DTP and Documentation Consultancy tel. +31652036811 i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bullets in multiple columns
Hi Steve, You could also create an anchored frame with the width of your text frame and insert a new text frame. Then change the text frame's properties to 2 or more columns and activate Balance Columns. You still have to adjust the height of the 2 frames manually, but you do not need to distribute the content manually between the 2 columns of a table. You also do not need to change your table column format or create a new one. However, I would recomment to use a dedicated empty anchor paragraph for the anchored frame. Deselect Line Spacing - Fixed of this paragraph format. Select the anchored frame and press ESC m p to adjust its size to that of the text frame. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Pawlowskis Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:28 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Bullets in multiple columns How can I accomplish the following in Frame? I am trying to vertically compress hundreds of entries that look something like the following: Heading for this boring subject * Bullet 1 * Bullet 2 * Bullet 3 * New * Cheaper * Safer * Faster * Greener * etc. A lengthy explanation of this subject. I'd like to display the bullets something like this: Heading for this boring subject * Bullet 1 * Bullet 2 * Bullet 3 * New * Cheaper * Safer * Faster* Greener * etc. A lengthy explanation of this subject. Thank you in advance for your assistance. Steve Pawlowskis Technology Coordinator Kaufman Company, Inc. 19 Walkhill Road Norwood MA 02062 Phone:617.218.1765 Mobile: 774.437.1409 Toll Free:800.338.8023 ext. 165 Fax: 617.218.1746 E-mail: ste...@kaufmanco.com __ __ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. Kaufman Company scans all outgoing e-mail for viruses, SPAM and questionable material. __ __ ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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FrameMaker Footnotes
I have a table with multiple footnotes, with one original footnote and several cross-references to that footnote. The problem is that the original footnote is larger than the cross references to the footnote, even though the character style appears to be the same (superscript). In another book this problem does not occur. Any ideas why this is happening or how to fix it? Also, how to you adjust the size of the (superscript) number that refers to a table footnote? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bullets in multiple columns
Thank you all for the ideas. The text is already in a two column flow and the bulleted lists will never be allowed to span pages so it looks like a single row multi-column borderless table is the best option. Steve Pawlowskis Technology Coordinator Kaufman Company, Inc. 19 Walkhill Road Norwood MA 02062 Phone:617.218.1765 Mobile: 774.437.1409 Toll Free:800.338.8023 ext. 165 Fax: 617.218.1746 E-mail: ste...@kaufmanco.com -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:34 PM To: Jing Torralba; framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: Steve Pawlowskis Subject: RE: Bullets in multiple columns Jing Torralba wrote: I use the same technique that Linda uses, and I want to add that if the list changes, you need to make manual adjustments to the table to redistribute your bulleted list, ie, balance them out. I, too, think a borderless table is the way to go, especially if this need is one-time or quite infrequent. Yes, there are manual adjustments to make when the bullet list changes. One decision you need to consider is whether to put one bullet item per cell (many rows) or use a one-row table (however many columns you want across) with many bullets per cell. The latter won't span pages, of course, but requires less fiddling. Alan's idea of using multiple columns has a great deal of merit if this will be a quite long section, or if the need is frequent. But it really requires setting up a template with this in mind -- changing all your everyday tags (body, headings, numbered lists, ordinary bullets, etc., etc.) to span columns, and creating special tags for multi-column use. I've never done more than a short (less than half-page) multi-column list like this, and that only rarely, so the table solution was far quicker and simpler for me. YMMV, of course. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ _ Kaufman Company scans and filters all incoming e-mail for viruses, SPAM and questionable material. ___ _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. Kaufman Company scans all outgoing e-mail for viruses, SPAM and questionable material. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Display bug in FrameMaker 7.2
Hi Framers, I wonder whether anybody else has experienced this bug in FrameMaker 7.2 or on any other FrameMaker release. If you have two documents open in the same window, when you select the second from the Window menu the first is minimised and the second is displayed occupying the full window. When you switch back to the first, the normal behaviour is for the second window to be minimised and for the first to re-open, but only occupy about half the window. In the last couple of days the first window opens in part of the window, but the second document still displays in the window. The second document display is not actually active, and can be suppressed by making a change in the window properties e.g. by maximising the window and then restoring to the original size. The incidence of this bug is not predictable, i.e. you can have a FrameMaker session and it does not occur, then it may return at the next session. However once it does occur it is persistent and the only way to restore FrameMaker to normal behaviour is to close both documents and the window, and to re-open them in a new FrameMaker session. We have had a Windows update on the company system in the last couple of days, installed by the company IT department and thus out of our control. It is possible that this problem may be caused by changes in Windows having an unpredictable effect on an old and no longer maintained version of FrameMaker. Thanks for any suggestions, Tony Maries Technical Author Thales UK Ltd (Wells) DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the stated addressee(s) and access to it by any other person is unauthorised. If you are not an addressee, you must not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this e-mail. Such unauthorised use may be unlawful. We may monitor all e-mail communications through our networks. If you have received this e-mail in error, please inform us immediately on sender's telephone number above and delete it and all copies from your system. We accept no responsibility for changes to any e-mail which occur after it has been sent. Attachments to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your system. We therefore recommend you virus-check all attachments before opening. Thales UK Ltd. Registered Office: 2 Dashwood Lang Road, The Bourne Business Park, Addlestone, Weybridge, Surrey KT15 2NX Registered in England No. 868273 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Hi, I have 2 variables in FM 8 that I want to assign values to: (1) Product: assign CAR in default font (2) ProductBold: assign DOLL with char format BoldOnly I use the Get command to get the varfmt I want and give the Set commands: Set vMyVariable1.fmt = 'BoldOnlyDOLL'; Set vMyVariable2.fmt = 'Default FontCAR'; The first command works, the second does not...there is a weird character between the words Default and Font and I do not kow how to get that in the command... I have tried: - to copy paste the content from the FM dialog box to define a variable's value but that does not work - writing \p or \P or \r bewteen Default and Font and I do get characters but seemingly not the good one... This has to work today... Any ideas... Many thx! Stephen O'Brien Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6 Tel.: (418) 688-2061 Fax: (418) 688-3001 E-mail: sobr...@innovmetric.com www.innovmetric.com PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Display bug in FrameMaker 7.2
I haven't seen this myself, but the first thing to check for any display issue is whether you're running the latest drivers for your graphics card. So I'd start there. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Maries, Anthony anthony.mar...@uk.thalesgroup.com wrote: Hi Framers, I wonder whether anybody else has experienced this bug in FrameMaker 7.2 or on any other FrameMaker release. If you have two documents open in the same window, when you select the second from the Window menu the first is minimised and the second is displayed occupying the full window. When you switch back to the first, the normal behaviour is for the second window to be minimised and for the first to re-open, but only occupy about half the window. In the last couple of days the first window opens in part of the window, but the second document still displays in the window. The second document display is not actually active, and can be suppressed by making a change in the window properties e.g. by maximising the window and then restoring to the original size. The incidence of this bug is not predictable, i.e. you can have a FrameMaker session and it does not occur, then it may return at the next session. However once it does occur it is persistent and the only way to restore FrameMaker to normal behaviour is to close both documents and the window, and to re-open them in a new FrameMaker session. We have had a Windows update on the company system in the last couple of days, installed by the company IT department and thus out of our control. It is possible that this problem may be caused by changes in Windows having an unpredictable effect on an old and no longer maintained version of FrameMaker. Thanks for any suggestions, Tony Maries Technical Author Thales UK Ltd (Wells) DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the stated addressee(s) and access to it by any other person is unauthorised. If you are not an addressee, you must not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this e-mail. Such unauthorised use may be unlawful. We may monitor all e-mail communications through our networks. If you have received this e-mail in error, please inform us immediately on sender's telephone number above and delete it and all copies from your system. We accept no responsibility for changes to any e-mail which occur after it has been sent. Attachments to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your system. We therefore recommend you virus-check all attachments before opening. Thales UK Ltd. Registered Office: 2 Dashwood Lang Road, The Bourne Business Park, Addlestone, Weybridge, Surrey KT15 2NX Registered in England No. 868273 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM9 - Format Change List and Paragraph Tags
Wim - the order of the element and format change lists in the EDD is not a factor. What is important is the order of format rules within a given element's definition. As Lynne stated, you have to be sure that any rule that applies a format change (i.e., applies a character format to override the default para font) occurs after a rule that applies a paragraph format. Also, be careful with nested rules - it may be that a change is not being applied when you think due to it being nested inside another rule that is not utilized. Or possibly it is being replaced by a later rule that reset the paragraph tag. – Les --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu wrote: Hi Lynne, This makes sense inside a element definition, would you say it also works that way between elements? Currently I have my elements in alphabetical order in the EDD, to make it easier to find the elements that need editing. The format change lists themselves are at the end of the EDD however. In other appliations I worked with grouped elements (like in the DITA app) - but I never encountered this problem before - or may be just didn't notice it. I'll rearrange my EDD and see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker iDTP International DTP and Documentation Consultancy tel. +31652036811 i...@idtp.eu www.idtp.eu ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Stephen O'Brien wrote: I have 2 variables in FM 8 that I want to assign values to: (1) Product: assign CAR in default font (2) ProductBold: assign DOLL with char format BoldOnly I use the Get command to get the varfmt I want and give the Set commands: Set vMyVariable1.fmt = 'BoldOnlyDOLL'; Set vMyVariable2.fmt = 'Default FontCAR'; The first command works, the second does not...there is a weird character between the words Default and Font and I do not kow how to get that in the command... You don't need to. Unless you specify a char format, the variable automatically assumes the default pgf font. The only time you need to explicitly assign Default P Font is to turn off a previously invoked char format, as in a variable definition like this: BoldOnlyDOLLDefault P FontCAR And in that case, I'd try the Default P Font alias that works in dialog boxes: \ HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM 9 Desired Feature - Variables to Return to Match Entry First Letter Functionality
This may have been mentioned before, but I think it bears repeating. It's been very useful in Frame to type CTRL+0 to get to the variable list and then to type the first lettter of the named variable and cycle through until the desired entry appears for selection. What FM 9 does is bring up the first alphabetically corresponding variable and then present a drop-down. For example, if I choose M, I get Modification Date. In the past, I could then type M a couple of times more and wend my way through the various variables until Machine Name popped up. Now, instead, I have to go hunt for Machine Name in the drop-down list. It's a small thing, but an efficiency. A return to the old behavior, in this case, would be appreciated. Jim ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Replying to Stephen O'Brien, Richard Combs wrote: You don't need to. Unless you specify a char format, the variable automatically assumes the default pgf font. The only time you need to explicitly assign Default P Font is to turn off a previously invoked char format, as in a variable definition like this: BoldOnlyDOLLDefault P FontCAR And in that case, I'd try the Default P Font alias that works in dialog boxes: \ Richard is absolutely correct about not needing to include the Default ¶ Font switch in a variable definition. In fact, it can be undesirable if you need to insert the variable into a string that has some character format applied to it because the variable will appear in the paragraph's base font format rather than the applied character format. But I do have to correct one small detail in Richard's message: the alias for the Default ¶ Font switch in a variable definition uses a forward slash rather than a backslash. -Fred Ridder ¶ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Fred Ridder wrote: But I do have to correct one small detail in Richard's message: the alias for the Default ¶ Font switch in a variable definition uses a forward slash rather than a backslash. D'oh! Of course it does. The backslash is the escape character. Dumb mistake. Thanks, Fred! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ¶ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Display bug in FrameMaker 7.2
Maries, Anthony wrote: If you have two documents open in the same window, when you select the second from the Window menu the first is minimised and the second is displayed occupying the full window. When you switch back to the first, the normal behaviour is for the second window to be minimised and for the first to re-open, but only occupy about half the window. In the last couple of days the first window opens in part of the window, but the second document still displays in the window. The second document display is not actually active, and can be suppressed by making a change in the window properties e.g. by maximising the window and then restoring to the original size. I'm not following you. What you call normal behaviour isn't anything I've ever seen. Maybe there's a terminology problem, so let me try to describe what I think is normal (I'm using FM 7.2 in Win XP). FM has a multiple document interface (MDI). Within the application parent window, you can open any number of documents (including books), each in its own window. Using the buttons at the right end of each document window's title bar, you can: -- Minimize the document window, reducing it to a small title bar at the bottom of the application window. -- Maximize the document window, filling the application window completely so that the document no longer has its own window frame, title bar, scroll bars, etc. -- it gets these from the parent application window. It still has its own Minimize, Restore, and Close buttons right below the application window's. -- Restore the document window to the normal state (there may be a more formal name for this, but I don't recall), making it the size it was before being minimized or maximized. Whether a window is visible has nothing to do with whether it's minimized, normal, or maximized. It can be either visible or hidden in any of the three states. Open a book with several chapter files in it. Then hold the Shift key and select File Open All Files in Book. FM opens them all minimized, their mini title bars neatly stacked at the bottom of the application window. Press Ctrl-Tab repeatedly to cycle through all the open docs, and you'll see that one after the other, the minimized windows get focus (their title bars undim). But they remain minimized. Click Restore on one of the minimized windows and it returns to the normal state and gets focus (becomes the active window). The others remain minimized. Restore one or two more. Then move/resize the restored windows if necessary so you can see at least portions of all of them and still see some of the minimized ones. Cycle through them all with Ctrl-Tab again, and you'll see that shifting focus from a normal window to a minimized and back doesn't change their size/state, it only changes which is active (and if the windows overlap, the active one is always at the top of the stack). But Maximize works differently. Click a minimized window's Maximize button. It fills the application window as described above. Now cycle through the open windows with Ctrl-Tab. You'll see that _all_ of them are now maximized. Maximizing any document or book window maximizes them all (of course, you can only see the top one, which is active). Selecting them from the Window menu doesn't change this behavior. They're all maximized, you're just changing which one is in front and thus has focus. Now click the document's Restore button (below the application Restore button in the FM title bar). All the windows resume their previous state/size -- normal or minimized. If you Ctrl-Tab a time or two, you'll see the focus move to the next window in the tab order, and it will be normal or minimized. But here's where it gets a little odd. From the Windows menu, select one of the docs that briefly had focus in the previous step. It gets focus, but retains its normal or minimized state. Now from the Windows menu, select a document _other_ than the one(s) that had focus in the previous step. It gets focus _and_ is _maximized_! So even though a doc appears to be in normal or minimized state (after you restore a different maximized doc), some internal flag for window state doesn't get flipped until you explicitly flip it with the Restore button, click on or in it, or Ctrl-Tab to it. I don't think any of this behavior is new and only the sticky window state switch strikes me as unusual. Are you seeing something that doesn't match the above behaviors? Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send
RE: PDF create with FMbatch fails --doh!
Yikes, it is possible. You are correct, Sir! Looks like i have some Solaris admin to do. Many thanks for your expert and perennial contributions to this list. :-) Reid From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of Shlomo Perets Sent: Tue 3/31/2009 10:46 AM To: Reid Gray; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: PDF create with FMbatch fails --doh! Reid, You wrote: We build our books here with FMbatch on a --you guessed it-- Solaris machine. We check them out of source control and build them automagically, but as you can see from the noise below a book I just created from scratch on my Windows machine is not playing nice with FMbatch. Earlier I had an error on pg 18. I saved the book as MIF (exported really). Then opened the MIF and saved as Frame 8 to dispell the demons as it were. So, it looks like the bad behavior has moved to p 3, which is kind of a good thing. --I guess Adobe must build its books in reverse. Anyhow, if you have any ideas what might be plaguing me here please give a shout. I'm going home. Reid CID support library initialization completed. %%[ Warning: Empty job. No PDF file produced. ] %% Normalizer 8.0. UsePrologue is false. %%[ Warning: Empty job. No PDF file produced. ] %% Done %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Rect ]%% Stack: /ANN /Link /Subtype /G3.998318 /D /GoToR ... Is it possible that you are using the initial release of FM8.0? The initial FM8.0 release handled link information incorrectly (missing two angle brackets in the definition of the link's action in the PS file). Check whether you can update FM8 (applying available patches). If not, as a workaround: turn Tagged PDF on (without selecting specific tags) in FM's PDF Setup dialog box [note: I don't generally recommend producing Tagged PDFs from FrameMaker] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com http://www.microtype.com/ FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF Acrobat courses ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as flor...@westinghouse.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/florama%40westinghouse.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Bullets in multiple columns
Hi, I am looking forward to take the ACE exam in Framemaker 8.0. Can we download training materials and resources required to prepare for the ACE exam from Adobe.com? I did search for books and training materials from the following links below: http://www.adobe.com/misc/training.html http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/ace_certify.html However, I didn't find any training resources or materials/books. I need your help in finding resources and materials so that I can start preparing for the ACE exam. It will be of great help if anyone can share their experience and guide me for the ACE exam. Regards, Suhas Murthy Technical Communicator Tata Consultancy Services Buzz:- 2074 Cell:- 9701018325 Mailto: suhas.mur...@tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Great Webinar by Shlomo Perets of Microtype.com
* NOT a vendor post, just a very satisfied attendee! :) * Hi Framers, I just attended Shlomo Peret's webinar on the top ten FrameMaker tips and tricks, and it was amazingly practical, useful, and easy to follow! Schlomo, I want to thank you again for a great webinar: I'm going to put into practice, literally today, at least three of the tips I learned from the webinar. And the rest will increase my productivity measurably in days to come. Definitely the best webinar I have ever attended. Thanks again! Callie Bertsche Tecplot, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Bullets in multiple columns
Hi Steve, Have you looked at creating multiple columns and then for the "heading" and "text that explains", define those as crossing-over all columns? Done similar before, but it depends on how much is two column, one column, etc. And if it is a lengthy section within an otherwise standard document, put that into a separate file to simplify the administration of styles. Sorry, working on the Mac at the moment and don't have FM available to me. Cheers Alan Steve Pawlowskis wrote: > How can I accomplish the following in Frame? > > I am trying to vertically compress hundreds of entries that look something > like the following: > > Heading for this boring subject > * Bullet 1 > * Bullet 2 > * Bullet 3 > * New > * Cheaper > * Safer > * Faster > * Greener > * etc. > A lengthy explanation of this subject. > > > > I'd like to display the bullets something like this: > > Heading for this boring subject > * Bullet 1 * Bullet 2 > * Bullet 3 * New > * Cheaper * Safer > * Faster* Greener > * etc. > A lengthy explanation of this subject. > > Thank you in advance for your assistance. > > Steve Pawlowskis > Technology Coordinator > > Kaufman Company, Inc. > 19 Walkhill Road > Norwood MA 02062 > > Phone:617.218.1765 > Mobile: 774.437.1409 > Toll Free:800.338.8023 ext. 165 > Fax: 617.218.1746 > > > > > > E-mail: stevep at kaufmanco.com > > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > > If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the > message. > > Kaufman Company scans all outgoing e-mail for viruses, SPAM and questionable > material. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Bullets in multiple columns
Also, if your table spreads across pages it will not necessarily sort correctly if the split moves up or down. Controlling line spacing between table and paragraph is made more difficult when using tables (you have more metrics to deal with than with simple paragraph line-spacing). Alan Jing Torralba wrote: > I use the same technique that Linda uses, and I want to add that if the list > changes, you need to make manual adjustments to the table to redistribute your > bulleted list, ie, balance them out. > -- Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
More than lipstick on a pig
Well, I installed the trial of FM9 beside FM8. 'Course double-clicking a *.fm file launches FM9 but soon fixed that. Like the PODs for viewing various useful things. Also ability to turn non-modal dialogues into floating/tiled palettes. Support for DITA 1.1 double-plus good. Funky grey styling to match other Adobe products: keeps marketing people off the streets, don't it. Now that you can see a list of all markers, perhaps Index markers can also be toggled with a sorted display of all index entries in the book, with editing of Level1IX headings automatically modifying all the relevant markers, and other good indexing aids. P.S. Do IXgen, emDex, GenDex, Index Tools Pro, etc. work with FM9? (Hey, Adobe, doesn't the existence of all these indexing plug-ins, which each address only PART of the indexing functionality required, tell you where your next development efforts should be directed? Take a look at Cindex, Sky Index, and Macrex to get a bit of a hint. Oh, and MultiTes too for vocabulary control of team indexing. Even InDesign indexing interface is better in some respects. -- Disillusioned in Melbourne) Regards, Hedley -- Hedley Finger 28 Regent Street Camberwell VIC 3124 Australia Tel: +61 3 9809 1229 Fax: (call phone first) Mobile (cell): +61 412 461 558 Skype: hedley.finger Email. "Hedley Finger"
Password and restrict copying rights on pdf files generated from Framemaker
Verner, You wrote: >Can you set pdf file generation from Framemaker up so that pdf files are >protected from editing and copying? It is not possible to control PDF security settings directly from FrameMaker. You can, however, specify security settings in Distiller, that will apply to *all* PDFs distilled (whether you use Save as PDF from FrameMaker, or print to PS and distill). In Distiller, choose Settings > Security. The options you see vary depending on the Acrobat version compatibility set in in current Distiller settings. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants Template Design, Single Sourcing, FM-to-PDF & Acrobat web-based courses
FM9 - Format Change List and Paragraph Tags
Hi Lynne, This makes sense inside a element definition, would you say it also works that way between elements? Currently I have my elements in alphabetical order in the EDD, to make it easier to find the elements that need editing. The format change lists themselves are at the end of the EDD however. In other appliations I worked with grouped elements (like in the DITA app) - but I never encountered this problem before - or may be just didn't notice it. I'll rearrange my EDD and see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker iDTP International DTP and Documentation Consultancy tel. +31652036811 info at idtp.eu www.idtp.eu
Bullets in multiple columns
Hi Steve, You could also create an anchored frame with the width of your text frame and insert a new text frame. Then change the text frame's properties to 2 or more columns and activate "Balance Columns". You still have to adjust the height of the 2 frames manually, but you do not need to distribute the content manually between the 2 columns of a table. You also do not need to change your table column format or create a new one. However, I would recomment to use a dedicated empty anchor paragraph for the anchored frame. Deselect Line Spacing - Fixed of this paragraph format. Select the anchored frame and press ESC m p to adjust its size to that of the text frame. Best regards Winfried > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Steve Pawlowskis > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 9:28 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Bullets in multiple columns > > How can I accomplish the following in Frame? > > I am trying to vertically compress hundreds of entries that > look something like the following: > > Heading for this boring subject > * Bullet 1 > * Bullet 2 > * Bullet 3 > * New > * Cheaper > * Safer > * Faster > * Greener > * etc. > A lengthy explanation of this subject. > > > > I'd like to display the bullets something like this: > > Heading for this boring subject > * Bullet 1 * Bullet 2 > * Bullet 3 * New > * Cheaper * Safer > * Faster* Greener > * etc. > A lengthy explanation of this subject. > > Thank you in advance for your assistance. > > Steve Pawlowskis > Technology Coordinator > > Kaufman Company, Inc. > 19 Walkhill Road > Norwood MA 02062 > > Phone:617.218.1765 > Mobile: 774.437.1409 > Toll Free:800.338.8023 ext. 165 > Fax: 617.218.1746 > > > > > > E-mail: stevep at kaufmanco.com > > > > __ > __ > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential > and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity > to whom they are addressed. > > If you have received this email in error please notify the > originator of the message. > > Kaufman Company scans all outgoing e-mail for viruses, SPAM > and questionable material. > __ > __ > ___
ANN: FrameMaker / Acrobat Web-Based Courses (April-July)
[sessions are 3.5-hour long, including two 15-minute breaks] FrameMaker: -- FrameMaker Template Design (5 sessions: April 30, May 4, 6, 11, 13) -- Single Sourcing with FrameMaker (2 sessions: May 18, 19) -- Using FrameMaker (5 sessions: June 8, 9, 11, 15, 17) -- FrameMaker-to-PDF Advanced Techniques (5 sessions: June 22, 24, 29, July 1, 7) Acrobat: -- Testing PDFs (1 session: July 7) -- Building a Front-End Interface to Document Collections (1 session: July 9) Visit http://www.microtype.com/Training.html for more information, participants' feedback & registration form. Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com Training, consulting & add-ons: FrameMaker, Structured FM and Acrobat
FrameMaker Footnotes
I have a table with multiple footnotes, with one original footnote and several cross-references to that footnote. The problem is that the original footnote is larger than the cross references to the footnote, even though the character style appears to be the same (superscript). In another book this problem does not occur. Any ideas why this is happening or how to fix it? Also, how to you adjust the size of the (superscript) number that refers to a table footnote? -- Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133
Bullets in multiple columns
Thank you all for the ideas. The text is already in a two column flow and the bulleted lists will never be allowed to span pages so it looks like a single row multi-column borderless table is the best option. Steve Pawlowskis Technology Coordinator Kaufman Company, Inc. 19 Walkhill Road Norwood MA 02062 Phone:617.218.1765 Mobile: 774.437.1409 Toll Free:800.338.8023 ext. 165 Fax: 617.218.1746 E-mail: stevep at kaufmanco.com > -Original Message- > From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.combs at Polycom.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:34 PM > To: Jing Torralba; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Cc: Steve Pawlowskis > Subject: RE: Bullets in multiple columns > > Jing Torralba wrote: > > > I use the same technique that Linda uses, and I want to add that if > the > > list changes, you need to make manual adjustments to the table to > > redistribute your bulleted list, ie, balance them out. > > I, too, think a borderless table is the way to go, especially if this > need is one-time or quite infrequent. > > Yes, there are manual adjustments to make when the bullet list changes. > One decision you need to consider is whether to put one bullet item per > cell (many rows) or use a one-row table (however many columns you want > across) with many bullets per cell. The latter won't span pages, of > course, but requires less fiddling. > > Alan's idea of using multiple columns has a great deal of merit if this > will be a quite long section, or if the need is frequent. But it really > requires setting up a template with this in mind -- changing all your > "everyday" tags (body, headings, numbered lists, ordinary bullets, > etc., etc.) to span columns, and creating special tags for multi-column > use. > > I've never done more than a short (less than half-page) multi-column > list like this, and that only rarely, so the table solution was far > quicker and simpler for me. YMMV, of course. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > > > > ___ > _ > Kaufman Company scans and filters all incoming e-mail for viruses, SPAM > and questionable material. > ___ > _ This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. Kaufman Company scans all outgoing e-mail for viruses, SPAM and questionable material.
FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Hi, I have 2 variables in FM 8 that I want to assign values to: (1) Product: assign CAR in default font (2) ProductBold: assign DOLL with char format BoldOnly I use the Get command to get the varfmt I want and give the Set commands: Set vMyVariable1.fmt = 'DOLL'; Set vMyVariable2.fmt = 'CAR'; The first command works, the second does not...there is a weird character between the words Default and Font and I do not kow how to get that in the command... I have tried: - to copy paste the content from the FM dialog box to define a variable's value but that does not work - writing \p or \P or \r bewteen Default and Font and I do get characters but seemingly not the good one... This has to work today... Any ideas... Many thx! Stephen O'Brien R?dacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc. 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310 Qu?bec (Qu?bec) Canada G1N 4N6 Tel.: (418) 688-2061 Fax: (418) 688-3001 E-mail: sobrien at innovmetric.com www.innovmetric.com PolyWorks, the Universal 3D Metrology Software Platform for Manufacturing (TM)
Display bug in FrameMaker 7.2
I haven't seen this myself, but the first thing to check for any display issue is whether you're running the latest drivers for your graphics card. So I'd start there. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Maries, Anthony wrote: > Hi Framers, > > I wonder whether anybody else has experienced this bug in FrameMaker 7.2 or > on any other FrameMaker release. > > If you have two documents open in the same window, when you select the > second from the Window menu the first is minimised and the second is > displayed occupying the full window. > > When you switch back to the first, the normal behaviour is for the second > window to be minimised and for the first to re-open, but only occupy about > half the window. > > In the last couple of days the first window opens in part of the window, but > the second document still displays in the window. The second document > display is not actually active, and can be suppressed by making a change in > the window properties e.g. by maximising the window and then restoring to > the original size. > > The incidence of this bug is not predictable, i.e. you can have a FrameMaker > session and it does not occur, then it may return at the next session. > However once it does occur it is persistent and the only way to restore > FrameMaker to normal behaviour is to close both documents and the window, > and to re-open them in a new FrameMaker session. > > We have had a Windows update on the company system in the last couple of > days, installed by the company IT department and thus out of our control. It > is possible that this problem may be caused by changes in Windows having an > unpredictable effect on an old and no longer maintained version of > FrameMaker. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Tony Maries > > Technical Author > > Thales UK Ltd (Wells) DISCLAIMER: The information contained in this e-mail > is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for > the stated addressee(s) and access to it by any other person is > unauthorised. If you are not an addressee, you must not disclose, copy, > circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in > this e-mail. Such unauthorised use may be unlawful. We may monitor all > e-mail communications through our networks. If you have received this e-mail > in error, please inform us immediately on sender's telephone number above > and delete it and all copies from your system. We accept no responsibility > for changes to any e-mail which occur after it has been sent. ?Attachments > to this e-mail may contain software viruses which could damage your system. > We therefore recommend you virus-check all attachments before opening. > Thales UK Ltd. Registered Office: 2 Dashwood Lang Road, The Bourne Business > Park, Addlestone, Weybridge, Surrey KT15 2NX Registered in England No. > 868273 > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
FM9 - Format Change List and Paragraph Tags
Wim - the order of the element and format change lists in the EDD is not a factor.? What is important is the order of format rules within a given element's definition.? As Lynne stated, you have to be sure that any rule that applies a format change (i.e., applies a character format to override the default para font) occurs after a rule that applies a paragraph format.?? Also, be careful with nested rules - it may be that a change is not being applied when you think due to it being nested inside another rule that is not utilized.? Or possibly it is being replaced by a later rule that reset the paragraph tag. ? Les --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote: Hi Lynne, This makes sense inside a element definition, would you say it also works that way between elements? Currently I have my elements in alphabetical order in the EDD, to make it easier to find the elements that need editing. The format change lists themselves are at the end of the EDD however. In other appliations I worked with grouped elements (like in the DITA app) - but I never encountered this problem before - or may be just didn't notice it. I'll rearrange my EDD and see if it makes any difference. Thanks, Kind regards, vriendelijke groet, Wim Hooghwinkel Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker iDTP International DTP and Documentation Consultancy tel. +31652036811 info at idtp.eu www.idtp.eu
FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Stephen O'Brien wrote: > I have 2 variables in FM 8 that I want to assign values to: > > (1) Product: assign CAR in default font > (2) ProductBold: assign DOLL with char format BoldOnly > > I use the Get command to get the varfmt I want and give the Set commands: > > Set vMyVariable1.fmt = 'DOLL'; > > Set vMyVariable2.fmt = 'CAR'; > > The first command works, the second does > not...there is a weird character between the > words Default and Font and I do not kow how to get that in the command... You don't need to. Unless you specify a char format, the variable automatically assumes the default pgf font. The only time you need to explicitly assign is to turn off a previously invoked char format, as in a variable definition like this: DOLLCAR And in that case, I'd try the alias that works in dialog boxes: <\> HTH! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
FM 9 Desired Feature - Variables to Return to Match Entry First Letter Functionality
This may have been mentioned before, but I think it bears repeating. It's been very useful in Frame to type CTRL+0 to get to the variable list and then to type the first lettter of the named variable and cycle through until the desired entry appears for selection. What FM 9 does is bring up the first alphabetically corresponding variable and then present a drop-down. For example, if I choose M, I get Modification Date. In the past, I could then type M a couple of times more and wend my way through the various variables until Machine Name popped up. Now, instead, I have to go hunt for Machine Name in the drop-down list. It's a small thing, but an efficiency. A return to the old behavior, in this case, would be appreciated. Jim
FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Replying to Stephen O'Brien, Richard Combs wrote: > You don't need to. Unless you specify a char format, the variable > automatically assumes the default pgf font. The only time you need to > explicitly assign is to turn off a previously invoked > char format, as in a variable definition like this: > > DOLLCAR > > And in that case, I'd try the alias that works in > dialog boxes: <\> Richard is absolutely correct about not needing to include the Default ? Font switch in a variable definition. In fact, it can be undesirable if you need to insert the variable into a string that has some character format applied to it because the variable will appear in the paragraph's base font format rather than the applied character format. But I do have to correct one small detail in Richard's message: the alias for the Default ? Font switch in a variable definition uses a forward slash rather than a backslash. -Fred Ridder ?
FrameScript - assign value to a FM variable
Fred Ridder wrote: > But I do have to correct one small detail in Richard's message: the alias > for the Default ? Font switch in a variable definition uses a forward slash > rather than a backslash. ? D'oh! Of course it does. The backslash is the escape character. Dumb mistake. Thanks, Fred! Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ?
Bullets in multiple columns
Hi, I am looking forward to take the ACE exam in Framemaker 8.0. Can we download training materials and resources required to prepare for the ACE exam from Adobe.com? I did search for books and training materials from the following links below: http://www.adobe.com/misc/training.html http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/ace_certify.html However, I didn't find any training resources or materials/books. I need your help in finding resources and materials so that I can start preparing for the ACE exam. It will be of great help if anyone can share their experience and guide me for the ACE exam. Regards, Suhas Murthy Technical Communicator Tata Consultancy Services Buzz:- 2074 Cell:- 9701018325 Mailto: suhas.murthy at tcs.com Website: http://www.tcs.com Experience certainty. IT Services Business Solutions Outsourcing =-=-= Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you
Great Webinar by Shlomo Perets of Microtype.com
* NOT a vendor post, just a very satisfied attendee! :) * Hi Framers, I just attended Shlomo Peret's webinar on the top ten FrameMaker tips and tricks, and it was amazingly practical, useful, and easy to follow! Schlomo, I want to thank you again for a great webinar: I'm going to put into practice, literally today, at least three of the tips I learned from the webinar. And the rest will increase my productivity measurably in days to come. Definitely the best webinar I have ever "attended". Thanks again! Callie Bertsche Tecplot, Inc.
