Archive

[Martinek, Carla]

I notice that the online archive and the emails I've received all stop
at Thursday, Aug. 6th... 

 

Did I missing something, or has everyone just been *really* quiet for
six days?
 
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SVGs with Frame/DITA

[Mollye Barrett]

Hi All,

I'm working on a DITA/Frame project right now and am faced with a graphics
challenge go figure. The client currently uses EPS illustrations with
callouts and leader lines applied to the drawing in the Frame graphics box.
Most are simple lettered callouts but there are also some illustrations with
text that must be translated into 24 languages. So, sounds to me like a good
application for SVGs.

Can anyone speak to using SVGs with DITA and Frame?

As always, your help is appreciated!

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Problem with list?

[Combs, Richard]

Is there a problem with the Mailman software? I haven't received a
message from the list since last Thursday. I just checked the archives
(so the server is up), and the last message there is from Thursday, too.


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Diagonal line in a header cell

[Stephen O'Brien]

Hi,

I have a table with titles in the header area and 
also in the left column (let's say the headers 
are stats and the lines are cities), and would 
like the header cell in the upper left corner to 
have a diagonal line from top left to bottom 
right where I could type Stats above the diagonal 
and Cities below as titles for the 2 sets of headers.

This seems a common presentation style to me. I 
can't figure out how to make a good clean 
diagonal that really goes from cell corner to 
cell corner simply - or do I have to insert an anchored frame, etc.

Any ideas are appreciated.

Thanks everyone and have a good day.

Stephen O'Brien
Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6

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FrameMaker TOC Problem - resolved

[Shmuel Wolfson]

It seems that the problem with the page numbering in the TOC was that 
one paragraph was shifting to the next page when I updated the TOC, but 
it was not shifting to the next page in the PDF. I haven't quite figured 
out how that could have happened, but I solved the problem for now buy 
reducing some of the spacing to make sure that the paragraph does not 
shift to the next page.

I still haven't resolved the second issue, but I'm not that concerned 
about that problem since I can just reinsert the LOF.



I'm having two problems with a TOC (using Frame 9 p237).

1. The page numbers for a lot of the TOC entries are wrong. When I click
on the links they go to the right pages, but not the pages listed in the
TOC. It starts in the middle of one of the chapters - the page numbers
in the TOC is one page later than the actual page. This is really weird.
I haven't seen this type of problem yet in Frame. I don't see any
problem in the file at the point where the problem starts. Could the
file be corrupt?

2. I inserted a LOF as a text inset at the end of the TOC. When I update
the book, the LOF jumps to the front of the TOC and instead tern into
plain text instead of a text inset.

Any ideas?


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FrameMaker TOC Problem

[Shmuel Wolfson]

I'm having two problems with a TOC (using Frame 9 p237).

1. The page numbers for a lot of the TOC entries are wrong. When I click 
on the links they go to the right pages, but not the pages listed in the 
TOC. It starts in the middle of one of the chapters - the page numbers 
in the TOC is one page later than the actual page. This is really weird. 
I haven't seen this type of problem yet in Frame. I don't see any 
problem in the file at the point where the problem starts. Could the 
file be corrupt?

2. I inserted a LOF as a text inset at the end of the TOC. When I update 
the book, the LOF jumps to the front of the TOC and instead tern into 
plain text instead of a text inset.

Any ideas?

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Variables established at book level?

[Nancy Allison]

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Variables established at book level?

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, everyone.

Is there a way to establish variables in the first file in your book file and 
have them carry through all the remaining files?

The appeal is, I establish book title, part number, and rev date variables on 
the cover page of my book; I then use those variables in the headers and 
footers of all the following chapters. It would be great to only have to set 
them up once, without even using the Import Formats function, through which I 
have come to grief more than once.

Is there a way to change the variables in the Cover file (the first file in my 
book.fm) and have them carry over into all the remaining book files, without 
having to do anything more?

I know about the plug-in, BookVars, but  I think someone mentioned a built-in 
capability in Frame along those lines.

Or did I dream that? 

Thanks.

--Nancy
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SetPrint plug-in FM 9 within the TCS 2.0

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Hello Fellow Framers,
 
I thought Ian's instructions over at
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm were pretty
straightforward, but when I tried to follow them, my copy of FM9 (with
the TCS 2.0) isn't setting the default to Adobe PDF as it should.
 
I downloaded the SetPrint.dll into C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe
Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe FrameMaker 9\plugins, and created
a SetPrint.ini with the Printer=Adobe PDF line, but nothing seems to
have happened when I restart FM - my default printer inside FM is still
my network HP printer.
 
Anybody have any experience with SetPrint in FM 9? Does having the TCS
make any difference?
 
   
Jeff Coatsworth
Documentation Specialist
Gary Jonas Computing Ltd.
905-886-0544
905-886-8511 (fax)
jeff dot coatsworth at jonassoftware dot com
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Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

[Fei Min Lorente]

We're in the final (hopefully) stages of setting up our FrameMaker
documentation set of manuals to generate PDF and HTML files as part of a
nightly build, and the programmers are somewhat surprised at how
difficult this has been. We have FrameMaker 7.2 running on Windows XP.
We're using Mif2Go to create the output files, and the scripting
language is Python. Just out of curiosity, who else out there is
automatically generating their output, and what tools are you using?
 
Fei Min

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ANN: New layer capabilities with Presentation Asst v3 (TimeSavers add-on)

[Shlomo Perets]

The Layer Assistant was recently integrated into the Presentation Assistant 
(v.3), offering the following capabilities:

-- Text/Symbol Layer shortcuts
Add the specified string, associated with a layer (with control over font, 
size and color; horizontal/vertical location adjustment)

-- Shape Layer shortcuts
(rectangle, rounded rectangle, shaded rectangle and circle; can control 
fill/border color, line width)
* optionally also create a link that toggles layer visibility
* optionally specify that the shape border is visible at all times, 
regardless of the layer and its visibility

-- Image Layer shortcuts
Include JPEG images as a layer
(this may also be used to set a non-printing page background tint to reduce 
screen glare, or for navigation buttons)

-- Underline/Strikethrough Layer shortcuts

-- Layers can be created from FM content (text / graphics) based on RGB 
color composition
(this does not require hypertext markers)

-- Layer visibility links/bookmarks:
(show layer; hide layer, show layer only, toggle layer, show next/previous 
layer, show all layers, hide all layers)

-- Specific layers can be set as initially hidden or as non-printing 
(through the settings files or through shortcuts)

-- Support for transparency of shapes and JPEG images

Visit http://www.microtype.com/showcasePresentAsst.html for PDFs 
demonstrating the new capabilities

[ FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers v5.5 required ]


Shlomo Perets

MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/Acrobat training  consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants


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Tuesday, August 18: Enhancing PDFs with Form Fields (with FM-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers + Form Asst)
https://student.gototraining.com/register/3420308416844530916

Thursday, Sept. 10: Liven up your PDFs with FrameMaker-to-Acrobat 
TimeSavers/Assistants
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OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Andersen, Verner Engell VEA]

What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
in screen:
 
log out, logout or 
 
log off, logoff
 
Best regards,
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Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

[Fei Min Lorente]

We're in the final (hopefully) stages of setting up our FrameMaker
documentation set of manuals to generate PDF and HTML files as part of a
nightly build, and the programmers are somewhat surprised at how
difficult this has been. We have FrameMaker 7.2 running on Windows XP.
We're using Mif2Go to create the output files, and the scripting
language is Python. Just out of curiosity, who else out there is
automatically generating their output, and what tools are you using?
 
Fei Min
 

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Re: SetPrint plug-in FM 9 within the TCS 2.0

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Dear Fellow Framers,
 
I am a prat! I've figured out what I did wrong - I put the SetPrint
stuff in the wrong Plugins folder - I seem to have 2:
 
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe
FrameMaker 9\plugins
 
and
 
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe
FrameMaker 9\fminit\Plugins
 
Works beautifully once it got into the \fminit\ folder!
 
Jeff
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View Only

[Judy Bragg]

I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a hotspot 
that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done just in 
time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support.
Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.  My 
problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I can 
select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic frame in 
which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts of the 
flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only property 
and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  Unfortunately, 
when (according to the status of the button) the document should be editable, I 
still can't edit my flow chart.
Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
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Nice zoom effect

[mathieu jacquet]

Dear all,

while downloading Skype, I noticed a nice zoom effect on screenshots of their 
procedure:

http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windows/downloading/

Do you know which tool can do this (possible with Snagit?)

Thank you all!

Mathieu

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Tint Colors in Frame 9.0

[Scott White]

I have a client who is using the new Framemaker 9.0 on her windows xp  
machine. She is trying to output a 30% spot color plus her black for  
the printer.
No matter whether we print to postscript or create a pdf directly, the  
color always comes out at 100 percent. We even tried building a new  
color as a tint and even that came out as 100%.
The only way we could get it to work is by actually distilling to  
separations and the color came out correct. However the printer wants  
composite pdfs and of course we are back to square one there.
Does anyone know if this is a bug, is there an update or plugin we  
need? Has anyone else encountered this?
Any feedback would be appreciated.

Also, I sent this out earlier but seems the frame list was down.

Thanks.


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Implementation Coordinator
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Re: Archive

[Art Campbell]

No, just (yet another) server outage, I think.

The Free Framers list (hosted at omsys.com, the Tech Comm Suite Users
group (http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en, and the Adobe
User-to-user forum are more reliable.

Art

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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Martinek, Carlacmarti...@zebra.com wrote:
 I notice that the online archive and the emails I've received all stop
 at Thursday, Aug. 6th...



 Did I missing something, or has everyone just been *really* quiet for
 six days?

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Re: SVGs with Frame/DITA

[Writer]

Mollye:

There was some discussion of images in DITA last month in this thread: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-July/017669.html

You might find useful information there.

Nadine

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From: Mollye Barrett mol...@clearpath.cc
Subject: SVGs with Frame/DITA
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Received: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 12:35 AM

Hi All,

I'm working on a DITA/Frame project right now and am faced with a graphics
challenge go figure. The client currently uses EPS illustrations with
callouts and leader lines applied to the drawing in the Frame graphics box.
Most are simple lettered callouts but there are also some illustrations with
text that must be translated into 24 languages. So, sounds to me like a good
application for SVGs.

Can anyone speak to using SVGs with DITA and Frame?

As always, your help is appreciated!

Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
content management solutions
414-331-1378 (cell)
 http://www.clearpath.cc www.clearpath.cc
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyebarrett
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speaking dates

The RealWorld DITA Conference
September 14-15
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http://www.aboveandbeyondlearning.com/ditaconference.html

LavaCon
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New Orleans, Louisiana
 http://www.lavacon.org/ http://www.lavacon.org/　

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Re: Variables established at book level?

[Art Campbell]

Set up one file in the book with the variables the way you want 'em.
Then, in the book file, select all the files to which you want to
apply them and execute File  Import  Formats.
Select Variables. Apply.

Art

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Nancy Allisonma...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hi, everyone.

 Is there a way to establish variables in the first file in your book file and 
 have them carry through all the remaining files?

 The appeal is, I establish book title, part number, and rev date variables on 
 the cover page of my book; I then use those variables in the headers and 
 footers of all the following chapters. It would be great to only have to set 
 them up once, without even using the Import Formats function, through which 
 I have come to grief more than once.

 Is there a way to change the variables in the Cover file (the first file in 
 my book.fm) and have them carry over into all the remaining book files, 
 without having to do anything more?

 I know about the plug-in, BookVars, but  I think someone mentioned a 
 built-in capability in Frame along those lines.

 Or did I dream that?

 Thanks.

 --Nancy
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Re: SetPrint plug-in FM 9 within the TCS 2.0

[Art Campbell]

Two points...

The directions actually say to create a SetPrint directory _under_
\Plugins, which I don't think you did. (then copy SetPrint.dll to a
new directory named C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker6.0\fminit\Plugins\SetPrint)

And the web page does point out that it was only tested with FM 6 and
7 although I haven't seen any reports of problems with later
versions. I'd expect it to work.

TCS shouldn't have any effect at all -- it's a FM plug-in.

Art

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jeff
Coatsworthjeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote:
 Hello Fellow Framers,

 I thought Ian's instructions over at
 http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm were pretty
 straightforward, but when I tried to follow them, my copy of FM9 (with
 the TCS 2.0) isn't setting the default to Adobe PDF as it should.

 I downloaded the SetPrint.dll into C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe
 Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe FrameMaker 9\plugins, and created
 a SetPrint.ini with the Printer=Adobe PDF line, but nothing seems to
 have happened when I restart FM - my default printer inside FM is still
 my network HP printer.

 Anybody have any experience with SetPrint in FM 9? Does having the TCS
 make any difference?


 Jeff Coatsworth
 Documentation Specialist
 Gary Jonas Computing Ltd.
 905-886-0544
 905-886-8511 (fax)
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Re: SetPrint plug-in FM 9 within the TCS 2.0

[Mike Wickham]

 Anybody have any experience with SetPrint in FM 9? Does having the TCS
 make any difference?

It's working fine for me in FM9, but I don't have TCS.

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RE: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Kristy Nolan]

We call it log out, unless the app has a specific button to sign out or
log off. Meaning call it whatever the button says, if there is more than
just clicking the red X in Windows.

Hope that helps!
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What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
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log out, logout or 
 
log off, logoff
 
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RE: Problem with list?

[Fei Min Lorente]

Yes, there must have been a problem. There's a similar posting from
Carla Martinek. That's why I re-sent my email to the list; it never
showed up and no one responded. Sorry about the duplicate, and thanks
Nadine for the answer. I had forgotten about WebWorks.

Mailman seems to be back.

Fei Min 

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Subject: Problem with list?

Is there a problem with the Mailman software? I haven't received a
message from the list since last Thursday. I just checked the archives
(so the server is up), and the last message there is from Thursday, too.


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Re: Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

[Art Campbell]

Are you using runfm.exe from Omsys, or some other method?

And, what, specifically is or isn't happening?

Art

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Fei Min
Lorentefeimin.lore...@onsemi.com wrote:
 We're in the final (hopefully) stages of setting up our FrameMaker
 documentation set of manuals to generate PDF and HTML files as part of a
 nightly build, and the programmers are somewhat surprised at how
 difficult this has been. We have FrameMaker 7.2 running on Windows XP.
 We're using Mif2Go to create the output files, and the scripting
 language is Python. Just out of curiosity, who else out there is
 automatically generating their output, and what tools are you using?

 Fei Min

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RE: Variables established at book level?

[Syed.Hosain]

I have looked before but not found any Frame built-in capability that did this.

BookVars is the best way to go here! I could not do without it. My 
most-oft-used add-on! :)

Z

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:53 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Variables established at book level?

Hi, everyone.

Is there a way to establish variables in the first file in your book file and 
have them carry through all the remaining files?

The appeal is, I establish book title, part number, and rev date variables on 
the cover page of my book; I then use those variables in the headers and 
footers of all the following chapters. It would be great to only have to set 
them up once, without even using the Import Formats function, through which I 
have come to grief more than once.

Is there a way to change the variables in the Cover file (the first file in my 
book.fm) and have them carry over into all the remaining book files, without 
having to do anything more?

I know about the plug-in, BookVars, but  I think someone mentioned a built-in 
capability in Frame along those lines.

Or did I dream that? 

Thanks.

--Nancy
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Re: View Only

[Art Campbell]

Try keying in:
   Esc F l k

the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.

If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.

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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Braggj...@hypack.com wrote:
 I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
 Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a 
 hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done 
 just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support.
 Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.  
 My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I 
 can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic 
 frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts 
 of the flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only 
 property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  
 Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document 
 should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
 Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
 Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
 Judy Bragg
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 Hypack, Inc.
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RE: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Syed.Hosain]

If it is a web site or something like that, I would use either log out
or log off as the instruction.

However, if it is a local program, then a simple exit the program or
exit is better.

Z

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Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
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(omsys)); framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
in screen:
 
log out, logout or 
 
log off, logoff
 
Best regards,
Verner



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RE: Can we change the track text edit marker colours in FM8?

[DELANO Karen V (AREVA NP INC)]

Short Answer:
No.  
Longer answer with mini rant:
It is just a conditional format except we can't adjust its properties.
(although, I have had some success saving it down to 7.2 and adjusting
it there). 
It is a particular pet peeve of mine.  People are used to seeing added
text in red - and the green just throws them off (I got a lot of calls
when we switched to FM8).   That is why people often call track
changes/track text edits Red-line/strikeout.  I also don't believe Adobe
realized that people are red/green color-blind when choosing the colors.
One of our engineers has an especially difficult time because of this. 
If we get lucky, they will fix it in 10.  

Karen D
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Subject: Can we change the track text edit marker colours in FM8?

Hi,

Having just discovered the useful track edit tool, I wonder if it is
possible to change the colour/underline that the edited text is given?

For example, I'd like to change the marker for inserted text from forest
green to a brighter colour.

I can't find anything in the FM8 user guide, nor on the internet. If
anyone knows of a backdoor way to do this, please let me know!

Thanks,

Heidi Bailey
Technical Author

Oxford Semiconductor, Ltd
A Subsidiary of PLX Technology, Inc.
25 Milton Park
Abingdon
Oxfordshire
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Headings reference page

[Kevin Farwell]

Hello,

I have a question about the Headings reference page. Has anyone 
ever modified it by changing its name? Does anyone know anyone who 
has? I need to find out if the name is likely to change on a project.

Wait, two questions. Has anyone, even if the name of the page was 
changed, ever changed the tag of the text frame on the Headings 
reference page?

Kevin
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Text inset (FM9)

[Milton, Cynthia]

Classification: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED

I don't know if this is a bug but I can't find anything about it
anywhere else.

 

I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an extra
carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of the
inset.

 

The only way to correct it is to delete the inset and re-import it,
which rather defeats the object. G.

 

Anyone know anything (please, please, gibber gibber)?

 

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Re: OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Meenakshi Sharma]

We use log out and log in. Some companies use log off an log on.

Meenakshi

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA 
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 What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
 in screen:

 log out, logout or

 log off, logoff

 Best regards,
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Seeking opportunities in San Jose CA area

[writing4business]

Hi fellow Framers



I appreciate this group and have found it very helpful when working on projects.



I am currently seeking a new employment opportunity in the SF Bay Area.? If any 
of you have leads for a contract or perm job, please pass them along.



Thank you so much..



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Re: Text inset (FM9)

[Jerilynne Knight]

Hi Cynthia

I don't know if this will help or not...I ran into something many years ago,
only it was an autonumbered paragraph not a page break. After much futzing,
fiddling and testing, I came up with something that works.


   1. Make sure the end-of-file marker is immediately after the last
   character in the text inset
   2. Position your cursor where the text inset is to be inserted in the
   container document (no duh, eh? Smile)
   3. Insert a fixed width space, such as an em space (Esc Space m)
   4. Press Home to position the cursor at the beginning of the line
   5. Import text inset

I also use a specific paragraph tag to anchor text insets...and I don't
believe anchoring to any old paragraph tag will make a difference.

Blessings
Jerilynne

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 Classification: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED

 I don't know if this is a bug but I can't find anything about it
 anywhere else.



 I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an extra
 carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
 paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
 head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
 extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of the
 inset.



 The only way to correct it is to delete the inset and re-import it,
 which rather defeats the object. G.




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RE: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Jon Harvey]

My team had issues with this a long time ago until we considered the
gerund and past tense forms of the term: 

logout--logouting; log out--logging out.

Logout--logouted; log out--logged out.

As a result, the terms log out and log in made more sense.
 
Jon Harvey
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What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
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log out, logout or 
 
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RE: Text inset (FM9)

[Combs, Richard]

Milton, Cynthia wrote: 
 
 I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an
extra
 carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
 paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
 head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
 extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of
the
 inset.

This comes up every few months on the list. There is no extra carriage
return being added. When you import a text inset, you're importing it
_at the cursor location_. More than likely, that's in an empty body pgf.
A text inset always sits in a pgf -- it has to, it's just another text
object, like a char, xref, or marker. You can confirm this to yourself
by putting the text cursor somewhere above the text inset and pressing
the right arrow key repeatedly until the cursor moves past the text
inset. Notice that a single keypress moves the cursor from before the
text inset to after it -- to FM, it's just an object in the text flow,
like a marker.

The problem you're experiencing is the result of a long-standing bug.
When a text inset sits at the end of the pgf that contains it, the
container pgf takes on the format of the first pgf in the text inset.
This is analogous to the related bug regarding char formats: when a char
format extends all the way to the end of the pgf, it creates a pgf
override. 

The solution in both cases is don't do that. If you import text insets
into empty pgfs, always put something between the text inset and the end
of the pgf that contains it (I use a non-breaking space so there's a
visible symbol, but anything will do). By all means, work with text
symbols displayed so you can see the pilcrow at the end of a pgf, etc. 

HTH!
Richard


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RE: Can we change the track text edit marker colours in FM8?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Karen,

I am pretty sure I replied to Heidi directly, but you can change the
color/style properties with FrameScript. If you are interested in a script
to do it, please contact me off list. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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Short Answer:
No.  
Longer answer with mini rant:
It is just a conditional format except we can't adjust its properties.
(although, I have had some success saving it down to 7.2 and adjusting
it there). 
It is a particular pet peeve of mine.  People are used to seeing added
text in red - and the green just throws them off (I got a lot of calls
when we switched to FM8).   That is why people often call track
changes/track text edits Red-line/strikeout.  I also don't believe Adobe
realized that people are red/green color-blind when choosing the colors.
One of our engineers has an especially difficult time because of this. 
If we get lucky, they will fix it in 10.  

Karen D


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Re: Transparent Fonts

[Shlomo Perets]

  Eduardo,

You wrote:

  Next:  The dilemma.  I am trying to figure out whether FrameMaker
has the capability of being able to make or handle the issue of font
transparency.  Yup, being able to view a graphic behind the text in
front of itartsy stuff.
  The theoretical is having a graphic and then embedding text over the
graphic, but being able to see through the text.  Am I making any
sense here?
  Is there a plug in or technique?  Currently, we use Photoshop
(another fine Adobe product) to perform this function, but I would
rather stay within the Framemaker environment.


Adding to Dov Isaacs' reply:

Using Presentation Assistant (FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on), 
transparency is supported with rectangles (of different types), circles, 
JPEG images, and -- on a limited basis -- with text strings.
All items are inserted/controlled through hypertext markers. For text items 
(typically one-line strings), you can specify the font, size, color and 
blending mode.

A sample PDF is available at 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentButton.pdf

PDF blending modes are similar to those available in Photoshop (see 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/Transparentbutton-BlendModes.pdf 
)


Shlomo Perets

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Re: Variables established at book level?

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

As stated previously, I am aware of the Import function.

I thought I had read of some way to set up some document features once, in the 
book file, and have them ripple automatically through the rest of the book 
files. My question is, has anyone heard of this?

Thanks.

 It would be great to only have to set them up once, without even using the 
 Import Formats function, 
 through which I have come to grief more than once.
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Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

Hi Framers, 

I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more
of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to
update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing
files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files,
frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is
not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your
help. 

Rick
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RE: Variables established at book level?

[Owen, Clint]

Nancy,

You can do it with cross references, but that can have it's own set of
problems.

You need to use each variable at least once in your title chapter. Each
one has to be in a paragraph by itself, possibly be on an unused master
page. Then create a cross reference marker in the paragraph that
contains each variable. Then cross reference from anywhere in your book
back to the markers in your title chapter. Once it is set up, you can
change every cross referenced copy at the same time by updating the
variables in the title chapter.

Clint


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Subject: Re: Variables established at book level?

Hi, all.

As stated previously, I am aware of the Import function.

I thought I had read of some way to set up some document features once,
in the book file, and have them ripple automatically through the rest of
the book files. My question is, has anyone heard of this?

Thanks.

 It would be great to only have to set them up once, without even using

 the Import Formats function, through which I have come to grief more
than once.
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Re: View Only

[Peter Gold]

Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into
the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently
copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect
this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while
you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in
order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still
pressed.

HTH

Regards,

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbellart.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try keying in:
   Esc F l k

 the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
 see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.

 If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.

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 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Braggj...@hypack.com wrote:
 I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
 Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a 
 hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done 
 just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support.
 Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.  
 My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I 
 can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic 
 frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts 
 of the flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only 
 property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  
 Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document 
 should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
 Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
 Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
 Judy Bragg
 Technical Writer
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RE: best price on Adobe Tech Comm Suite 2?

[Syed.Hosain]

Amazon has it for $1699. Only 2 left in stock ... 

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Subject: best price on Adobe Tech Comm Suite 2?

Hi all. I'm an independent contractor and consequently I pay for my own
software out of pocket. I've been cruising along with FrameMaker 6 for a
very long time, as well as an old version of RoboHelp, and I'm now
thinking
of biting the bullet and buying the Adobe Technical Communication Suite
2
(w/ Frame 9, RoboHelp 8, Photoshop CS4, etc). Since the software I
already
have is quite old I'm not eligible for the upgrade pricing, nor am I
eligible for the academic version pricing. So I'm looking at $1900 to
buy
the Suite through the Adobe web site. It'll be tax deductible of course,
but
still, that's pricey.

 

Does anyone know of a less expensive place to buy the Suite?

 

Thanks much.

 

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Portsmouth, NH
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[David Spreadbury]

Rick,
The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of the
graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once you have
redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file location.

When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and you
select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular Frame file,
it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, even if you have
saved the file.

Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The complete
path and filename MUST remain identical.

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From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Hi Framers, 

I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more
of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to
update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing
files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files,
frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is
not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your
help. 

Rick


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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File
window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps
redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or
ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new
drawing. 

Rick

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From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Rick,
The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of
the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once
you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file
location.

When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and
you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular
Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location,
even if you have saved the file.

Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The
complete path and filename MUST remain identical.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Hi Framers, 

I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more
of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to
update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing
files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files,
frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is
not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your
help. 

Rick


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RE: Variables established at book level?

[Combs, Richard]

Nancy Allison wrote:
 
 As stated previously, I am aware of the Import function.
 
 I thought I had read of some way to set up some document features
once, in
 the book file, and have them ripple automatically through the rest of
the
 book files. My question is, has anyone heard of this?
 
 Thanks.
 
  It would be great to only have to set them up once, without even
using
 the Import Formats function,
  through which I have come to grief more than once.

From the book window, it takes literally 5 seconds or less to do: 

Ctrl+A (select all files) 
Esc f i o (open Import Formats dialog) 
Alt+a (Deselect All) 
Alt+v (select Variable Definitions)
Enter (Import)

There is no built-in alternative, and I'm not sure there's much of a
need. What problem are you trying to solve? How have you come to grief
with this procedure? 

If it's something you want to automate because you forget to do it, then
a FrameScript solution is probably best. An event script could import
variables from the title file to the other files in the book whenever
you save, print, update the book, or whatever. 

Richard


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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[David Spreadbury]

Rick,
On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not
change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file without
any problems.

I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran into the
missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic and
opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and selected
Skip and got the same response.

This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted. You
might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try
opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install Frame8 and
then, of course, all updates.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing File
window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps
redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip or
ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the new
drawing. 

Rick

-Original Message-
From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Rick,
The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename of
the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file once
you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file
location.

When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic, and
you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular
Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location,
even if you have saved the file.

Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The
complete path and filename MUST remain identical.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Hi Framers, 

I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more
of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to
update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing
files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files,
frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is
not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your
help. 

Rick



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Re: FM9 and Columns

[Art Campbell]

I'm not seeing in your mention that you're working on the Master pages
that control formatting for all pages in a file. Any global changes
such as this need to be made on Master pages, not the body pages that
carry the copy (and which are controlled by the Masters).

Art

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Alison
Craigalison.cr...@ultrasonix.com wrote:
 Version: FM9
 OS: XP Pro with SP3

 I'm new to FrameMaker and am having problems setting up my Glossary.

 I am trying to create a 2 column setup on each page with 5 mm separating the 
 columns.

 The column entries are alphabetical and I want to have the left column 
 automatically flow to the right column once it is full. And when the right 
 column is full, I want it to auto-flow to the left column on the next page, 
 etc.

 I don't care if the side-by-side columns on each page are balanced at the 
 bottom of the page, however, I would like the last page to split whatever 
 content they contain between the columns. Again, the last lines don't have to 
 be exactly balanced, but the content should be approximately balanced between 
 the 2 columns.

 I can figure out how to get this on one page, but I don't know how to get it 
 to flow to the next page.

 Does this explanation make sense to people? If so, does anyone have any 
 suggestions?

 Alison

 FYI: Other than an Appendix title and the headers and footers, these columns 
 will be this book file's only content.

 Also, I can send a PDF of what I mean if that would clarify things for anyone.


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 Ultrasonix Medical Corporation
 130 - 4311 Viking Way
 Richmond, BC  V6V 2K9
 Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127
 Fax: (604) 279-8559
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Re: Nice zoom effect

[Writer]

If you mean the dialog boxes with the magnified buttons, it looks like a 
composite graphic to me. You could do that in any image editing software.

Nadine

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Subject: Nice zoom effect
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Received: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:16 AM


Dear all,

while downloading Skype, I noticed a nice zoom effect on screenshots of their 
procedure:

http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windows/downloading/

Do you know which tool can do this (possible with Snagit?)

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RE: FM9 and Columns

[Alison Craig]

Yes I did simply modify the specific page rather than the Master Page but I've 
now had some wonderful help from Rick Quattro and I understand what I did wrong 
- hopefully I'll remember all the details for next time! 

He talked me through the process, I've re-imported all the entries and 
everything works the way it should.

Thanks

Alison
 
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-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:21 AM
To: Alison Craig; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM9 and Columns

Alison Craig wrote:
 
 I'm new to FrameMaker and am having problems setting up my Glossary.
 
 I am trying to create a 2 column setup on each page with 5 mm
separating
 the columns.
 
 The column entries are alphabetical and I want to have the left column
 automatically flow to the right column once it is full. And when the
right
 column is full, I want it to auto-flow to the left column on the next
page,
 etc.

As Art said, you need to set up your master pages correctly. 

When the text frames on your master pages have the Autoconnect property
turned on, FM automatically creates new pages as each fills up. But it
uses the default Left or Right master page (as appropriate) as a
template for each new page. 

If you've simply modified a specific page's text frame to produce a
two-column layout, but not modified the master pages, then the new page
will have the one-column layout of the master page, not the customized
layout you created for the preceding page. Please study the portions of
the online help and/or manual dealing with page layouts and master
pages. 

HTH!
Richard


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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

 In the Missing File dialog, you're selecting Ignore All Missing Files
and clicking Continue, and FM just keeps displaying the dialog? That's
decidedly odd... 

YES, exactly !  Or skip.

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:36 PM
To: Richard Melanson; David Spreadbury; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Richard Melanson wrote:
 
 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps 
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
new
 drawing.

In the Misssing File dialog, you're selecting Ignore All Missing Files
and clicking Continue, and FM just keeps displaying the dialog? That's
decidedly odd... 

OTOH, I have to wonder why the file path or name of your
imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is it about your
workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe you can fix
that part so this just doesn't happen anymore. 

Richard


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Re: View Only

[Judy]

Peter,
You win the prize!  I had a text frame covering the entire chart.  I 
often inadvertently copy by continuing to hold the Ctrl key while I 
attempt to move a frame.  I'm sure that must've happened and I didn't 
notice.

Thanks for solving the mystery and saving me a ton of time!
Judy

Peter Gold wrote:
 Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into
 the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently
 copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect
 this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while
 you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in
 order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still
 pressed.

 HTH

 Regards,

 Peter
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 KnowHow ProServices

 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbellart.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Try keying in:
   Esc F l k

 the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
 see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.

 If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.

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 On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Braggj...@hypack.com wrote:
 
 I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
 Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a 
 hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done 
 just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. 
 support.
 Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program. 
  My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.  I 
 can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic 
 frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts 
 of the flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only 
 property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.  
 Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document 
 should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
 Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
 Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
 Judy Bragg
 Technical Writer
 Hypack, Inc.
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity
of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below,
wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a
function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows
:-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu of
Frame. How do I get it?
Rick



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's disease,
I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending file. It seems
much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one
document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker
itself having become corrupted. 

-Fred Ridder


 
 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500
 
 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not
 change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file
without
 any problems.
 
 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
selected
 Skip and got the same response.
 
 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
new
 drawing. 
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
 To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Rick,
 The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename
of
 the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file
once
 you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file
 location.
 
 When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic,
and
 you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular
 Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location,
 even if you have saved the file.
 
 Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The
 complete path and filename MUST remain identical.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Hi Framers, 
 
 I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
 with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or
more
 of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option
to
 update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all
missing
 files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing
files,
 frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame
is
 not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
 ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for
your
 help. 
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Fei Min Lorente]

Hi Rick:

As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could
download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.

Fei Min 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity
of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below,
wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a
function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows
:-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu of
Frame. How do I get it?
Rick



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's disease,
I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending file. It seems
much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one
document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker
itself having become corrupted. 

-Fred Ridder


 
 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500
 
 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not
 change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file
without
 any problems.
 
 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
selected
 Skip and got the same response.
 
 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
new
 drawing. 
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
 To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Rick,
 The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename
of
 the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file
once
 you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file
 location.
 
 When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic,
and
 you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular
 Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location,
 even if you have saved the file.
 
 Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The
 complete path and filename MUST remain identical.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Hi Framers, 
 
 I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
 with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or
more
 of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option
to
 update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all
missing
 files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing
files,
 frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame
is
 not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
 ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for
your
 help. 
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Kelly McDaniel]

I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as a
MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the previous
century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
Lorente
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Hi Rick:

As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could
download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.

Fei Min 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity
of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below,
wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a
function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows
:-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu of
Frame. How do I get it?
Rick



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's disease,
I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending file. It seems
much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one
document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker
itself having become corrupted. 

-Fred Ridder


 
 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500
 
 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not
 change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file
without
 any problems.
 
 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
selected
 Skip and got the same response.
 
 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
new
 drawing. 
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
 To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Rick,
 The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename
of
 the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file
once
 you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file
 location.
 
 When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic,
and
 you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular
 Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location,
 even if you have saved the file.
 
 Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The
 complete path and filename MUST remain identical.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Hi Framers, 
 
 I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
 with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or
more
 of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option
to
 update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all
missing
 files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing
files,
 frame just redisplays the Missing File 

Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Art Campbell]

No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing.
Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the
menu is a single click.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDanielkmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote:
 I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as a
 MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the previous
 century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
 Lorente
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Hi Rick:

 As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
 option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could
 download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.

 Fei Min

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
 Melanson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
 To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity
 of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below,
 wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a
 function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows
 :-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu of
 Frame. How do I get it?
 Rick

 

 From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
 To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


 Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's disease,
 I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending file. It seems
 much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one
 document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker
 itself having become corrupted.

 -Fred Ridder



 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500

 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not
 change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file
 without
 any problems.

 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
 into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
 and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
 selected
 Skip and got the same response.

 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
 You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
 Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
 File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
 or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
 new
 drawing.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
 To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Rick,
 The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename
 of
 the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file
 once
 you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file
 location.

 When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic,
 and
 you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular
 Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location,
 even if you have saved the file.

 Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The
 complete path and filename MUST remain identical.

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: 

RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Pinkham, Jim]

Yes, that's right. Then you'll get the following added to your menu to
simplify the whole MIF-saving and reopening process:
http://tinypic.com/r/98ht00/3.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
Lorente
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Hi Rick:

As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could
download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.

Fei Min 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Melanson
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity
of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below,
wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a
function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows
:-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu of
Frame. How do I get it?
Rick



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's disease,
I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending file. It seems
much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one
document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker
itself having become corrupted. 

-Fred Ridder


 
 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500
 
 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did not

 change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame file
without
 any problems.
 
 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
selected
 Skip and got the same response.
 
 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try 
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps 
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
new
 drawing. 
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
 To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Rick,
 The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename
of
 the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file
once
 you have redirected the file to point to the proper graphic file 
 location.
 
 When you open a Frame file, that can't locate a referenced graphic,
and
 you select to skip this file, the next time you open that particular 
 Frame file, it will again ask for the correct graphic file location, 
 even if you have saved the file.
 
 Check the path and filename of the referenced graphic files. The 
 complete path and filename MUST remain identical.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Hi Framers,
 
 I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system 
 with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55 
 drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or
more
 of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option
to
 update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all
missing
 files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing
files,
 frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I 

RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

I still have my copy of MIF2Go, I just don't know if there were any changes 
over the years, and the menu option is not there. But I will do the Save as Mif 
from Framemaker and see if that addresses the problem.
Rick 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:27 PM
To: Kelly McDaniel
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente
Subject: Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing.
Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a 
single click.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDanielkmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote:
 I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as 
 a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the 
 previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min 
 Lorente
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Hi Rick:

 As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
 option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could 
 download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.

 Fei Min

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
 Melanson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
 To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the 
 generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the 
 response below, wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This 
 appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what 
 everyone already knows
 :-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu 
 of Frame. How do I get it?
 Rick

 

 From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
 To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


 Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's 
 disease, I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending 
 file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become 
 corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with 
 rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted.

 -Fred Ridder



 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500

 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did 
 not change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame 
 file
 without
 any problems.

 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
 into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
 and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
 selected
 Skip and got the same response.

 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
 You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try 
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
 Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
 File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps 
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to skip
 or
 ignore, I cannot get access to the Frame file unless I update to the
 new
 drawing.

 Rick

 -Original Message-
 From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:59 AM
 To: Richard Melanson; 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Rick,
 The only way that I can see is that something in the path or filename
 of
 the graphics must be different or you aren't saving the Frame file
 once
 you have redirected the file to 

RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

 Boy do I feel stupid  :-)

I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to clean out any 
impurities that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I cannot get by 
the Missing File box!   HELP  :-)

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:34 PM
To: Art Campbell; Kelly McDaniel
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

I still have my copy of MIF2Go, I just don't know if there were any changes 
over the years, and the menu option is not there. But I will do the Save as Mif 
from Framemaker and see if that addresses the problem.
Rick 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:27 PM
To: Kelly McDaniel
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente
Subject: Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing.
Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a 
single click.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDanielkmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote:
 I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as 
 a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the 
 previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min 
 Lorente
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Hi Rick:

 As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
 option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could 
 download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.

 Fei Min

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
 Melanson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
 To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the 
 generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the 
 response below, wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This 
 appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what 
 everyone already knows
 :-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu 
 of Frame. How do I get it?
 Rick

 

 From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
 To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; 
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?


 Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's 
 disease, I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending 
 file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become 
 corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with 
 rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted.

 -Fred Ridder



 From: dspre...@yahoo.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:22:38 -0500

 Rick,
 On your first email, I opened a graphic and made some edits. I did 
 not change the graphic filename. Then open the corresponding Frame 
 file
 without
 any problems.

 I renamed the graphic file and reopened the Frame book. When it ran
 into the
 missing graphic, I selected Ignore and it just ignored that graphic
 and
 opened the file. I closed the Frame file and tried it again and
 selected
 Skip and got the same response.

 This tends to tell me that something in Frame has gotten corrupted.
 You
 might try reinstalling, at least the latest patch (p277) and then try 
 opening the file. If this doesn't fix it, then I would re0install
 Frame8 and
 then, of course, all updates.

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Melanson [mailto:rmelan...@spirecorp.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:04 AM
 To: David Spreadbury; Combs, Richard; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

 Thank you for your quick response David. I cant get by the Missing
 File
 window. I can click on ignore or skip 100 times and Frame just keeps 
 redisplaying the Missing File window. Frame will not allow me to 

RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Fred Ridder]

For the record, the Wash as MIF command works perfectly in the free trial 
version of Mif2Go. The only thing affected by the trial version vs. the fully 
licensed version is that the word order is randomized in many of the converted 
output formats (e.g. HTML Help) so that you cannot use the trial version to 
produce real deliverables. The utility functions work fine.

Manual washing is only a few simple steps (saving as MIF, then opening the MIF 
and saving as .fm), but when you have Wash via MIF in the menu you get really 
lazy...

-Fred Ridder


 
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:31:03 -0500
 From: jim.pink...@voith.com
 To: feimin.lore...@onsemi.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Yes, that's right. Then you'll get the following added to your menu to
 simplify the whole MIF-saving and reopening process:
 http://tinypic.com/r/98ht00/3.
 
 Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min
 Lorente
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 Hi Rick:
 
 As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
 option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could
 download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.
 
 Fei Min 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard
 Melanson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
 To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the generosity
 of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the response below,
 wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This appears to be a
 function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what everyone already knows
 :-) Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu of
 Frame. How do I get it?
 Rick
 
 
 
 From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
 To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com;
 framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 
 Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's disease,
 I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending file. It seems
 much more likely to me that something has become corrupt in the one
 document file that Rick is having problems with rather than FrameMaker
 itself having become corrupted. 
 
 -Fred Ridder
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Fred Ridder]

Oops, l should be the one feeling stupid for recommending the MIF save when the 
problem is that you can't successfully open the file. Duh!

Will heroic open get you past the Missing File dialog?

 

Or another approach to try is using FileImportFile to import the content of 
the reluctant file into a clean, working template file. 


-Fred Ridder

 
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:44:42 -0400
 From: rmelan...@spirecorp.com
 To: rmelan...@spirecorp.com; art.campb...@gmail.com; kmcdan...@pavtech.com
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com; feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
 
 Boy do I feel stupid :-)
 
 I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to clean out any 
 impurities that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I cannot get 
 by the Missing File box! HELP :-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard Melanson
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:34 PM
 To: Art Campbell; Kelly McDaniel
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente
 Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 I still have my copy of MIF2Go, I just don't know if there were any changes 
 over the years, and the menu option is not there. But I will do the Save as 
 Mif from Framemaker and see if that addresses the problem.
 Rick 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:27 PM
 To: Kelly McDaniel
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Fei Min Lorente
 Subject: Re: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 No, SaveAs MIF and the Omsys Wash As MIF menu entry do the same thing.
 Only difference is that SaveAs takes a couple manual steps and the menu is a 
 single click.
 
 Art
 
 Art Campbell
 art.campb...@gmail.com
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
 redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
 DoD 358
 
 
 
 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Kelly McDanielkmcdan...@pavtech.com wrote:
  I always thought that Wash as MIF could also mean, Save an FM file as 
  a MIF file within FM, then open it in FM. It's a habit from the 
  previous century. Am I misinformed?...Kelly.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
  [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min 
  Lorente
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:56 PM
  To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
  Hi Rick:
 
  As far as I know, you have to install Mif2Go to get the Wash via MIF
  option on the File menu. If you don't still have your copy, you could 
  download the trial version and see if that feature works for you.
 
  Fei Min
 
  -Original Message-
  From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
  [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
  Melanson
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM
  To: Fred Ridder; dspre...@yahoo.com; richard.co...@polycom.com; 
  framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
  I was unemployed for a while a few years ago and through the 
  generosity of Omni Systems, I received a copy of MIF2Go. After the 
  response below, wash as MIF caught my attention I Googled it. This 
  appears to be a function of MIF2Go, I am probably stating what 
  everyone already knows
  :-)  Anyway, I do NOT have the wash as MIF option in the file menu 
  of Frame. How do I get it?
  Rick
 
  
 
  From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:32 PM
  To: dspre...@yahoo.com; Richard Melanson; richard.co...@polycom.com; 
  framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?
 
 
  Before resorting to what Dov Isaacs calls reinstallsheimer's 
  disease, I'd try a quick wash as MIF operation on the offending 
  file. It seems much more likely to me that something has become 
  corrupt in the one document file that Rick is having problems with 
  rather than FrameMaker itself having become corrupted.
 
  -Fred Ridder
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Combs, Richard]

Richard Melanson wrote:
 
  Boy do I feel stupid  :-)
 
 I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to clean out any
 impurities that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I
cannot
 get by the Missing File box!   HELP  :-)

Um, you can't open it because it can't find one or more graphics
imported by reference, right? 

Well, I hate to repeat myself, but: I have to wonder why the file path
or name of your imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is
it about your workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe
you can fix that part so this just doesn't happen anymore. 

Or to deal specifically with the immediate problem: 

1) In the Missing File dialog, FM tells you the path and name of the
file that's missing. Make a note of it, and then cancel. 

2) Put a file of the correct name in the correct location -- preferably
the actual file that should be used, but any file of that type will do. 

3) Try opening the FM file again. If the Missing File dialog reports
another missing file, try the Ignore option, and if that doesn't work,
repeat step 2. 

4) Repeat step 3 until the FM file opens. 

Once it's open, you can try the MIF wash business, but I strongly
suggest you instead focus on finding out why you keep having these
missing file problems and fixing that. 

HTH!
Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

My apologies Richard, you did state this in an earlier response. 

I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system. My
Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and
mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import by
reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a drawing
book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its
original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the
DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves the
file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that my
drawing book needs to be updated. 

Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by the
Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below
where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an  updated
drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the
new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as if
the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work. 

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:13 PM
To: Richard Melanson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Richard Melanson wrote:
 
  Boy do I feel stupid  :-)
 
 I am trying to open a file to save it as a MIF file to clean out any 
 impurities that I am unable to open because of the impurities. I
cannot
 get by the Missing File box!   HELP  :-)

Um, you can't open it because it can't find one or more graphics
imported by reference, right? 

Well, I hate to repeat myself, but: I have to wonder why the file path
or name of your imported-by-reference drawings keeps changing. What is
it about your workflow that causes this problem to keep coming up? Maybe
you can fix that part so this just doesn't happen anymore. 

Or to deal specifically with the immediate problem: 

1) In the Missing File dialog, FM tells you the path and name of the
file that's missing. Make a note of it, and then cancel. 

2) Put a file of the correct name in the correct location -- preferably
the actual file that should be used, but any file of that type will do. 

3) Try opening the FM file again. If the Missing File dialog reports
another missing file, try the Ignore option, and if that doesn't work,
repeat step 2. 

4) Repeat step 3 until the FM file opens. 

Once it's open, you can try the MIF wash business, but I strongly
suggest you instead focus on finding out why you keep having these
missing file problems and fixing that. 

HTH!
Richard


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Re: Diagonal line in a header cell

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Stephen,

The only thing I can think of is to make an anchored frame in the cell
and locate it outside the frame, then move it over the cell and make a
diagonal line touching the middle of the cell border lines (corners).
Then resize the frame and locate it so that it will show the whole
line.

If you have more tables that need the same line just copy and paste
the anchored frame.

HTH,

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2009/8/11 Stephen O'Brien sobr...@innovmetric.com:
 Hi,

 I have a table with titles in the header area and
 also in the left column (let's say the headers
 are stats and the lines are cities), and would
 like the header cell in the upper left corner to
 have a diagonal line from top left to bottom
 right where I could type Stats above the diagonal
 and Cities below as titles for the 2 sets of headers.

 This seems a common presentation style to me. I
 can't figure out how to make a good clean
 diagonal that really goes from cell corner to
 cell corner simply - or do I have to insert an anchored frame, etc.

 Any ideas are appreciated.

 Thanks everyone and have a good day.

 Stephen O'Brien
 Rédacteur technique senior / Senior Technical Writer
 InnovMetric Logiciels inc. / InnovMetric Software Inc.
 2014, Cyrille-Duquet, suite 310
 Québec (Québec) Canada G1N 4N6

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Re: Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

[Bodvar Bjorgvinsson]

Fei Min,

Have you considered FrameScript? There are a lot of guys on this list
that could help with that (not me, though :-( ).

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson



2009/8/17 Fei Min Lorente feimin.lore...@onsemi.com:
 We're in the final (hopefully) stages of setting up our FrameMaker
 documentation set of manuals to generate PDF and HTML files as part of a
 nightly build, and the programmers are somewhat surprised at how
 difficult this has been. We have FrameMaker 7.2 running on Windows XP.
 We're using Mif2Go to create the output files, and the scripting
 language is Python. Just out of curiosity, who else out there is
 automatically generating their output, and what tools are you using?

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RE: Variables established at book level?

[David Spreadbury]

Nancy,
At my last full-time position we developed our documents to a 
telecommunications spec. In the spec there is defined a DocID (Document 
Identifier) file. In this file, which is not published with the book, we had 
place holders for all of the book-wide variables; title, doc no., doc date, etc.

When we worked on a book, this file was usually the first file worked on by 
updating all of the variables that applied.

Then, with this file saved and minimized, all of the variables were imported to 
all of the other chapters of the book. Made for a very easy way to control the 
book-wide variables.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:53 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Variables established at book level?

Hi, everyone.

Is there a way to establish variables in the first file in your book file and 
have them carry through all the remaining files?

The appeal is, I establish book title, part number, and rev date variables on 
the cover page of my book; I then use those variables in the headers and 
footers of all the following chapters. It would be great to only have to set 
them up once, without even using the Import Formats function, through which I 
have come to grief more than once.

Is there a way to change the variables in the Cover file (the first file in my 
book.fm) and have them carry over into all the remaining book files, without 
having to do anything more?

I know about the plug-in, BookVars, but  I think someone mentioned a built-in 
capability in Frame along those lines.

Or did I dream that? 

Thanks.

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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Combs, Richard]

Richard Melanson wrote:
 
 I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system.
My
 Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and
 mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import
by
 reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a
drawing
 book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its
 original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the
 DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves
the
 file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that
my
 drawing book needs to be updated.
 
 Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by
the
 Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below
 where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an  updated
 drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the
 new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as
if
 the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work.

OK, I see now. 

If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say
../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need
to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look
in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering
you again. 

Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the
original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... 

Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a
graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by
reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by
newer versions with the same name. 

A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if
there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance
of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should
be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers
can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then
perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the
graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics
directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at
../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. 

Richard


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RE: OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Andrew Warren]

Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:

 I would say that combined in one word each referenced item is
 a noun. So when you log in (out) you have the state of login
 (logout), as in a login window.

Yes, the usual rule is noun form is one word, verb form is two.  To this I 
would add that many style guides also treat log on as a phrasal verb, so 
they'd prefer log on to to log onto.

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RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

Thank you for your input Richard, unfortunately, I am completely
dependent on them and their system, when they are changing a file, it is
moved to a pending directory. I have no say in this matter. I am just
doing the best I can with what I have. Any idea why I still have the
problem?  Thank you. 
Rick 

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:01 PM
To: Richard Melanson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

Richard Melanson wrote:
 
 I use the import by reference function as a kind of alerting system.
My
 Engineering group has a bunch of directories filled with schematic and

 mechanical drawings they convert to jpg or png or pdf. I then import
by
 reference from these directories into my Frame file to create a
drawing
 book. If Engineering is changing a drawing, it is taken out of its 
 original directory and placed into a pending directory waiting for the

 DCO and the new drawing to become available. When Engineering moves
the
 file, this breaks the import by reference link thus alerting me that
my
 drawing book needs to be updated.
 
 Its at this point I run into my problem of not being able to get by
the
 Missing File window. I have also run into the scenario you state below

 where multiple files have been moved for updating. I get an  updated 
 drawing placed back into its original directory, Frame recognizes the 
 new drawing and moves on to the next missing file and sticks, its as
if
 the Ignore and Skip functions just don't work.

OK, I see now. 

If multiple missing files are all in the same new location, say
../pending_graphics, then in the FM Missing Files dialog, you only need
to identify the new path once for the first missing file. FM will look
in that same location for the other missing ones, rather than bothering
you again. 

Of course, with your workflow, you'll have to point FM back to the
original location once the changed files are DCOed. A PITA, for sure... 

Personally, I think the workflow leaves a lot to be desired. If a
graphics directory is the repository for files imported into FM by
reference, then those files should never be removed, only replaced by
newer versions with the same name. 

A different alerting system can surely be devised. For instance, if
there is a file xyz_123.png in the ../graphics directory, the appearance
of a file with the same name in the ../pending_graphics directory should
be enough of an alert without the former being removed. If the engineers
can't/won't leave the former where it is pending DCO of the latter, then
perhaps you should use a different directory as the source for the
graphics. Copy all the files in ../graphics to your /docsource_graphics
directory. A script could do that. A script could also look at
../pending_graphics periodically to alert you to upcoming changes. 

Richard


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Re: View Only

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Judy:

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Judyj...@hypack.com wrote:
 Peter,
 You win the prize!  I had a text frame covering the entire chart.  I often
 inadvertently copy by continuing to hold the Ctrl key while I attempt to
 move a frame.  I'm sure that must've happened and I didn't notice.

Been there, done that, trained people not to do that. A good way to
learn how to fix mistakes is to make themG.

 Thanks for solving the mystery and saving me a ton of time!

You're welcome!

Regards,

Peter
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 Judy

 Peter Gold wrote:

 Is it possible that either you've imported the PDF of the chart into
 the frame that held the drawn graphic chart, or you've inadvertently
 copied a frame on top of the frame that contains the chart? I suspect
 this happened when you dragged the frame on the master page, if, while
 you held Ctrl to change the text pointer to the graphic pointer in
 order to select the frame, you dragged the frame with Ctrl still
 pressed.

 HTH

 Regards,

 Peter
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 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Art Campbellart.campb...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 Try keying in:
  Esc F l k

 the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
 see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.

 If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.

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 I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
 Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.  Each step is a
 hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.  I got it done
 just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech.
 support.
 Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar
 program.  My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only
 document.  I can select the text box from the master page and I can select
 the graphic frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the
 component parts of the flowchart itself.  I've tried both methods of
 toggling the View Only property and the button in the Hypertext dialog
 changes back and forth.  Unfortunately, when (according to the status of 
 the
 button) the document should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
 Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
 Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
 Judy Bragg
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Acrobat Pro 9.0 greys the colored images

[Garnier Garnier]

Hello,
 
With Acrobat Pro when I print FM books to PS and the convert to PDFs the 
colored images become grey. Any idea why? Do I need to change/configure any 
settings?  I do not face this issue when I print a MS Word file to PS and then 
to PDF.
 
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RE: Acrobat Pro 9.0 greys the colored images

[Dov Isaacs]

Exactly how are you printing FM books to PS?

Assuming that you really want to manually produce PostScript and then distill 
same,
the proper manner to do this is to print to the Adobe PDF PostScript Printer 
Driver
instance but directed to file. That method uses the Distiller PPD. My best 
guess is
that you created PostScript by printing to file using some generic or 
monochrome
PostScript printer driver instance. That would have caused the symptoms you 
describe.

- Dov

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
 Garnier Garnier
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:06 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Acrobat Pro 9.0 greys the colored images
 
 Hello,
 
 With Acrobat Pro when I print FM books to PS and the convert to PDFs the 
 colored images become grey.
 Any idea why? Do I need to change/configure any settings?  I do not face this 
 issue when I print a MS
 Word file to PS and then to PDF.
 
 B/R
 Garnier
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Nice zoom effect

[mathieu jacquet]

Dear all,

while downloading Skype, I noticed a nice zoom effect on screenshots of their 
procedure:

http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windows/downloading/

Do you know which tool can do this (possible with Snagit?)

Thank you all!

Mathieu

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Tint Colors in Frame 9.0

[Scott White]

I have a client who is using the new Framemaker 9.0 on her windows xp  
machine. She is trying to output a 30% spot color plus her black for  
the printer.
No matter whether we print to postscript or create a pdf directly, the  
color always comes out at 100 percent. We even tried building a new  
color as a tint and even that came out as 100%.
The only way we could get it to work is by actually distilling to  
separations and the color came out correct. However the printer wants  
composite pdfs and of course we are back to square one there.
Does anyone know if this is a bug, is there an update or plugin we  
need? Has anyone else encountered this?
Any feedback would be appreciated.

Also, I sent this out earlier but seems the frame list was down.

Thanks.


Scott White
Media Production Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
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Archive

[Art Campbell]

No, just (yet another) server outage, I think.

The Free Framers list (hosted at omsys.com, the Tech Comm Suite Users
group (http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en, and the Adobe
User-to-user forum are more reliable.

Art

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Problem with list?

[David Spreadbury]

>From the originating address of the responses I would venture a guess that
the mail server is down.

All of the responses are coming from framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com.

David Spreadbury
Sr, Technical Writer

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:45 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; listadmin at frameusers.com
Subject: Problem with list?

Is there a problem with the Mailman software? I haven't received a
message from the list since last Thursday. I just checked the archives
(so the server is up), and the last message there is from Thursday, too.


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SVGs with Frame/DITA

[Writer]

Mollye:

There was some discussion of images in DITA last month in this thread: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-July/017669.html

You might find useful information there.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Mollye Barrett  wrote:

From: Mollye Barrett 
Subject: SVGs with Frame/DITA
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Received: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 12:35 AM

Hi All,

I'm working on a DITA/Frame project right now and am faced with a graphics
challenge . The client currently uses EPS illustrations with
callouts and leader lines applied to the drawing in the Frame graphics box.
Most are simple lettered callouts but there are also some illustrations with
text that must be translated into 24 languages. So, sounds to me like a good
application for SVGs.

Can anyone speak to using SVGs with DITA and Frame?

As always, your help is appreciated!

Mollye Barrett
ClearPath, LLC
content management solutions
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Variables established at book level?

[Art Campbell]

Set up one file in the book with the variables the way you want 'em.
Then, in the book file, select all the files to which you want to
apply them and execute File > Import > Formats.
Select Variables. Apply.

Art

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> Is there a way to establish variables in the first file in your book file and 
> have them carry through all the remaining files?
>
> The appeal is, I establish book title, part number, and rev date variables on 
> the cover page of my book; I then use those variables in the headers and 
> footers of all the following chapters. It would be great to only have to set 
> them up once, without even using the "Import Formats" function, through which 
> I have come to grief more than once.
>
> Is there a way to change the variables?in the Cover file (the first file in 
> my book.fm) and have them carry over into all the remaining?book files, 
> without having to do anything more?
>
> I?know about the plug-in, "BookVars," but? I think someone mentioned a 
> built-in capability in Frame along those lines.
>
> Or did I dream that?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Nancy
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SetPrint plug-in & FM 9 within the TCS 2.0

[Art Campbell]

Two points...

The directions actually say to create a SetPrint directory _under_
\Plugins, which I don't think you did. ("then copy SetPrint.dll to a
new directory named C:\Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker6.0\fminit\Plugins\SetPrint")

And the web page does point out that it was only tested with FM 6 and
7 although I haven't seen any reports of problems with later
versions. I'd expect it to work.

TCS shouldn't have any effect at all -- it's a FM plug-in.

Art

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Jeff
Coatsworth wrote:
> Hello Fellow Framers,
>
> I thought Ian's instructions over at
> http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm were pretty
> straightforward, but when I tried to follow them, my copy of FM9 (with
> the TCS 2.0) isn't setting the default to Adobe PDF as it should.
>
> I downloaded the SetPrint.dll into C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe
> Technical Communication Suite 2\Adobe FrameMaker 9\plugins, and created
> a SetPrint.ini with the Printer=Adobe PDF line, but nothing seems to
> have happened when I restart FM - my default printer inside FM is still
> my network HP printer.
>
> Anybody have any experience with SetPrint in FM 9? Does having the TCS
> make any difference?
>
>
> Jeff Coatsworth
> Documentation Specialist
> Gary Jonas Computing Ltd.
> 905-886-0544
> 905-886-8511 (fax)
> jeff dot coatsworth at jonassoftware dot com
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Problem with list?

[Combs, Richard]

Yay! The list is working again! 

David Spreadbury wrote:

> From the originating address of the responses I would venture a guess
that
> the mail server is down.
> 
> All of the responses are coming from
framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com.

You're letting the word "bounces" fool you. That's just the normal From
address that the list uses (check any of your older messages from the
list). 

If the mail server were down, you wouldn't have gotten my (or anyone
else's) message, would you? :-) 

Richard


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SetPrint plug-in & FM 9 within the TCS 2.0

[Mike Wickham]

> Anybody have any experience with SetPrint in FM 9? Does having the TCS
> make any difference?

It's working fine for me in FM9, but I don't have TCS.

Mike Wickham

log out, logout or log off logoff

[Kristy Nolan]

We call it log out, unless the app has a specific button to sign out or
log off. Meaning call it whatever the button says, if there is more than
just clicking the red X in Windows.

Hope that helps!
Kristy



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Subject: OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
in screen:

log out, logout or 

log off, logoff

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Problem with list?

[Fei Min Lorente]

Yes, there must have been a problem. There's a similar posting from
Carla Martinek. That's why I re-sent my email to the list; it never
showed up and no one responded. Sorry about the duplicate, and thanks
Nadine for the answer. I had forgotten about WebWorks.

Mailman seems to be back.

Fei Min 

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Richard
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 3:45 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; listadmin at frameusers.com
Subject: Problem with list?

Is there a problem with the Mailman software? I haven't received a
message from the list since last Thursday. I just checked the archives
(so the server is up), and the last message there is from Thursday, too.


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Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

[Art Campbell]

Are you using runfm.exe from Omsys, or some other method?

And, what, specifically is or isn't happening?

Art

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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Fei Min
Lorente wrote:
> We're in the final (hopefully) stages of setting up our FrameMaker
> documentation set of manuals to generate PDF and HTML files as part of a
> nightly build, and the programmers are somewhat surprised at how
> difficult this has been. We have FrameMaker 7.2 running on Windows XP.
> We're using Mif2Go to create the output files, and the scripting
> language is Python. Just out of curiosity, who else out there is
> automatically generating their output, and what tools are you using?
>
> Fei Min
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Problem with list?

[David Spreadbury]

Somebody rebooted the mail server. Things are good, again!!

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:34 AM
To: David Spreadbury; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Problem with list?

Yay! The list is working again! 

David Spreadbury wrote:

> From the originating address of the responses I would venture a guess
that
> the mail server is down.
> 
> All of the responses are coming from
framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com.

You're letting the word "bounces" fool you. That's just the normal From
address that the list uses (check any of your older messages from the
list). 

If the mail server were down, you wouldn't have gotten my (or anyone
else's) message, would you? :-) 

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Variables established at book level?

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

I have looked before but not found any Frame built-in capability that did this.

BookVars is the best way to go here! I could not do without it. My 
most-oft-used add-on! :)

Z

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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:53 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Variables established at book level?

Hi, everyone.

Is there a way to establish variables in the first file in your book file and 
have them carry through all the remaining files?

The appeal is, I establish book title, part number, and rev date variables on 
the cover page of my book; I then use those variables in the headers and 
footers of all the following chapters. It would be great to only have to set 
them up once, without even using the "Import Formats" function, through which I 
have come to grief more than once.

Is there a way to change the variables?in the Cover file (the first file in my 
book.fm) and have them carry over into all the remaining?book files, without 
having to do anything more?

I?know about the plug-in, "BookVars," but? I think someone mentioned a built-in 
capability in Frame along those lines.

Or did I dream that??

Thanks.

--Nancy

View Only

[Art Campbell]

Try keying in:
   Esc F l k

the file lock command toggle, and see if anything changes. You should
see the menus change immediately and be able to work in the file.

If nothing at all happens, do it a second time to toggle it off.

Art Campbell
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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   DoD 358



On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Judy Bragg wrote:
> I'm using FM8 to build PDF documents
> Yesterday, I spent quite a while building a flowchart.? Each step is a 
> hotspot that takes them to the relavant topic in the manual.? I got it done 
> just in time to insert it to the manual, PDF it and send it to tech. support.
> Today, I'd like to take that flowchart and modify it for a similar program.? 
> My problem is that, for some reason, it acts like a view only document.? I 
> can select the text box from the master page and I can select the graphic 
> frame in which I drew the flowchart, but I can't select the component parts 
> of the flowchart itself.? I've tried both methods of toggling the View Only 
> property and the button in the Hypertext dialog changes back and forth.? 
> Unfortunately, when (according to the status of the button) the document 
> should be editable, I still can't edit my flow chart.
> Does anyone out there have any ideas what else I could try?
> Thanks in advance for your wisdom and help!
> Judy Bragg
> Technical Writer
> Hypack, Inc.
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log out, logout or log off logoff

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

If it is a web site or something like that, I would use either "log out"
or "log off" as the instruction.

However, if it is a local program, then a simple "exit the program" or
"exit" is better.

Z

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Verner Engell VEA
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 7:19 AM
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Subject: OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
in screen:

log out, logout or 

log off, logoff

Best regards,
Verner



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Akandevej 21 
2700 Bronshoj 
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Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
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OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

[Meenakshi Sharma]

We use "log out" and "log in." Some companies use "log off an "log on."

Meenakshi

-- 
Meenakshi Sharma
Director of Marketing
eGain Communications
Mountain View, CA

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA <
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk> wrote:

> What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
> in screen:
>
> log out, logout or
>
> log off, logoff
>
> Best regards,
> Verner

Seeking opportunities in San Jose CA area

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Hi fellow Framers



I appreciate this group and have found it very helpful when working on projects.



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Text inset (FM9)

[Jerilynne Knight]

Hi Cynthia

I don't know if this will help or not...I ran into something many years ago,
only it was an autonumbered paragraph not a page break. After much futzing,
fiddling and testing, I came up with something that works.


   1. Make sure the end-of-file marker is immediately after the last
   character in the text inset
   2. Position your cursor where the text inset is to be inserted in the
   container document (no duh, eh? Smile)
   3. Insert a fixed width space, such as an em space (Esc Space m)
   4. Press Home to position the cursor at the beginning of the line
   5. Import text inset

I also use a specific paragraph tag to anchor text insets...and I don't
believe anchoring to any old paragraph tag will make a difference.

Blessings
Jerilynne

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Milton, Cynthia
wrote:

>
> Classification: NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED
>
> I don't know if this is a bug but I can't find anything about it
> anywhere else.
>
>
>
> I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an extra
> carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
> paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
> head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
> extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of the
> inset.
>
>
>
> The only way to correct it is to delete the inset and re-import it,
> which rather defeats the object. G.
>
>
>
>

log out, logout or log off logoff

[Jon Harvey]

My team had issues with this a long time ago until we considered the
gerund and past tense forms of the term: 

logout-->logouting; log out-->logging out.

Logout-->logouted; log out-->logged out.

As a result, the terms "log out" and "log in" made more sense.

Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark Drive
Cambridge, MA 02140
(617) 588-9354
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Verner Engell VEA
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 10:19 AM
To: FrameMaker discussion list (omsys) (FrameMaker discussion list
(omsys)); framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: log out, logout or log off logoff

What do you call it when you exit a program and return to the main log
in screen:

log out, logout or 

log off, logoff

Best regards,
Verner



Radiometer Medical ApS 
Akandevej 21 
2700 Bronshoj 
Denmark 
Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 
CVR: 27 50 91 85 
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For the latest trends in acute care testing, go to Radiometer's
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Text inset (FM9)

[Combs, Richard]

Milton, Cynthia wrote: 

> I have a number of docs with text insets. When I do an update, an
extra
> carriage return is added at the end of the inset which duplicates the
> paratag of the first line of the inset. The first paratag is a section
> head with a page break, so this also is duplicated. The result is an
> extra empty page which cannot be deleted as FM reckons it's part of
the
> inset.

This comes up every few months on the list. There is no "extra carriage
return" being added. When you import a text inset, you're importing it
_at the cursor location_. More than likely, that's in an empty body pgf.
A text inset always "sits" in a pgf -- it has to, it's just another text
object, like a char, xref, or marker. You can confirm this to yourself
by putting the text cursor somewhere above the text inset and pressing
the right arrow key repeatedly until the cursor moves past the text
inset. Notice that a single keypress moves the cursor from before the
text inset to after it -- to FM, it's just an object in the text flow,
like a marker.

The problem you're experiencing is the result of a long-standing bug.
When a text inset sits at the end of the pgf that contains it, the
container pgf takes on the format of the first pgf in the text inset.
This is analogous to the related bug regarding char formats: when a char
format extends all the way to the end of the pgf, it creates a pgf
override. 

The solution in both cases is "don't do that." If you import text insets
into empty pgfs, always put something between the text inset and the end
of the pgf that contains it (I use a non-breaking space so there's a
visible symbol, but anything will do). By all means, work with text
symbols displayed so you can see the pilcrow at the end of a pgf, etc. 

HTH!
Richard


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Can we change the track text edit marker colours in FM8?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Karen,

I am pretty sure I replied to Heidi directly, but you can change the
color/style properties with FrameScript. If you are interested in a script
to do it, please contact me off list. Thank you very much.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
rick at frameexpert.com
585-659-8267



Short Answer:
No.  
Longer answer with mini rant:
It is just a conditional format except we can't adjust its properties.
(although, I have had some success saving it down to 7.2 and adjusting
it there). 
It is a particular pet peeve of mine.  People are used to seeing added
text in red - and the green just throws them off (I got a lot of calls
when we switched to FM8).   That is why people often call track
changes/track text edits Red-line/strikeout.  I also don't believe Adobe
realized that people are red/green color-blind when choosing the colors.
One of our engineers has an especially difficult time because of this. 
If we get lucky, they will fix it in 10.  

Karen D

"Transparent Fonts"

[Shlomo Perets]

  Eduardo,

You wrote:

>  Next:  The dilemma.  I am trying to figure out whether FrameMaker
>has the capability of being able to make or handle the issue of font
>transparency.  Yup, being able to view a graphic behind the text in
>front of it"artsy" stuff.
>  The theoretical is having a graphic and then embedding text over the
>graphic, but being able to "see" through the text.  Am I making any
>sense here?
>  Is there a plug in or technique?  Currently, we use Photoshop
>(another fine Adobe product) to perform this function, but I would
>rather stay within the Framemaker environment.


Adding to Dov Isaacs' reply:

Using Presentation Assistant (FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers add-on), 
transparency is supported with rectangles (of different types), circles, 
JPEG images, and -- on a limited basis -- with text strings.
All items are inserted/controlled through hypertext markers. For text items 
(typically one-line strings), you can specify the font, size, color and 
blending mode.

A sample PDF is available at 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/TransparentButton.pdf

PDF blending modes are similar to those available in Photoshop (see 
http://www.microtype.com/showcase/PresentAsst/Transparentbutton-BlendModes.pdf 
)


Shlomo Perets

MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants

Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Fei Min,

For FrameMaker scripting, nothing beats FrameScript. I have written a bunch
of FrameMaker to PDF scripts over the years.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
rick at frameexpert.com
585-659-8267


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fei Min Lorente
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:17 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Automatic Output Generation of FrameMaker Documents

We're in the final (hopefully) stages of setting up our FrameMaker
documentation set of manuals to generate PDF and HTML files as part of a
nightly build, and the programmers are somewhat surprised at how
difficult this has been. We have FrameMaker 7.2 running on Windows XP.
We're using Mif2Go to create the output files, and the scripting
language is Python. Just out of curiosity, who else out there is
automatically generating their output, and what tools are you using?

Fei Min

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Senior Technical Communicator
Medical Division
ON Semiconductor
feimin.lorente at onsemi.com
+1 519 884 9696 ext 2297 | office
+1 519 884 0228 | fax
http://www.onsemi.com  
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Variables established at book level?

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

As stated previously, I am aware of the Import function.

I thought I had read of some way to set up some document features once, in the 
book file, and have them ripple automatically through the rest of the book 
files. My question is, has anyone heard of this?

Thanks.

> It would be great to only have to set them up once, without even using the 
> "Import Formats" function, 
> through which I have come to grief more than once.

Import by Reference Question/Bug ?

[Richard Melanson]

Hi Framers, 

I have Frame 8 with all the updates/patches running on a WinXp system
with 3gig RAM, 500gig HD, and a 2GHz Core 2 CPU. I have about 55
drawings imported by reference in a single Frame file. When one or more
of the imported by reference drawings changes, Frame gives the option to
update the path to the drawing or to skip the file or ignore all missing
files. When I try to select skip this file or ignore all missing files,
frame just redisplays the Missing File window. I have made sure Frame is
not looking for a different drawing, I cannot get Frame to skip or
ignore. Anyone ever had this problem, thank you all in advance for your
help. 

Rick

Variables established at book level?

[Owen, Clint]

Nancy,

You can do it with cross references, but that can have it's own set of
problems.

You need to use each variable at least once in your title chapter. Each
one has to be in a paragraph by itself, possibly be on an unused master
page. Then create a cross reference marker in the paragraph that
contains each variable. Then cross reference from anywhere in your book
back to the markers in your title chapter. Once it is set up, you can
change every cross referenced copy at the same time by updating the
variables in the title chapter.

Clint


Clinton Owen | Senior Technical Writer | Crane Aerospace & Electronics |
Telephone: +1 425-743-8674 | Fax: +1 425-743-8113


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:34 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Variables established at book level?

Hi, all.

As stated previously, I am aware of the Import function.

I thought I had read of some way to set up some document features once,
in the book file, and have them ripple automatically through the rest of
the book files. My question is, has anyone heard of this?

Thanks.

> It would be great to only have to set them up once, without even using

> the "Import Formats" function, through which I have come to grief more
than once.
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