Placing title of figure

[Stamm, David-P45904]

2009-12-22-02T13:45Z

FrameMaker 8.0p277 (structured)

Please respond as soon as possible.

I know my answer to the following, but I need authoritative, expert, 
independent opinions to confirm or refute my answer.

Given:
  1.  document type definition file and transformation files provided by 
customer

  2.  no authority or permission to change any of them

  3.  following excerpt from document type definition file:

snip

!ELEMENT figure (precond?, title, (subfig+ | (graphic, legend?) | table | 
  verbatim))
!ATTLIST figure
  application (page | frame | both) both
  figtype (normal-page | fo-rear) normal-page
  fo-size (25x11 | 35x11 | 45x11) #IMPLIED
  tocentry (0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5) 1
  pane %no_att;
  label   CDATA   #IMPLIED
  applicable  IDREFS  #IMPLIED
  %bodyidatt; 


/snip

Choose the correct answer from the following list.  The title of the figure 
(graphic)  appears:
  a.  above figure
  b.  below figure
  c.  left of figure
  d.  right of figure
  e.  somewhere else
  f.  none of the above

¡Thanks! in advance for your time and interest.

Dave Stamm
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RE: Placing title of figure

[Rick Quatro]

a or c

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Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Steve Rickaby]

FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with some Word 
dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at present.)

The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing 'Extra 
space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen. The objects 
displayed in the spell check dialog show a period followed by a character that 
looks like a small circle with an arrow at about 320 degrees. Neither of these 
objects occur in the text on screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start checking' does 
not move the spell check past the offending text.

Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does not affect 
this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen and in PDF, but the 
spell check is responding to something invisible in the file that appears to be 
resistant to removal.

Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of the 
adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's far too late to 
redo any of this.

-- 
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RE: Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Steve,

The first thing I would do is save the file as MIF and reopen it.

Rick Quatro
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http://www.frameexpert.com/peace/


FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with some
Word dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at present.)

The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing 'Extra
space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen. The objects
displayed in the spell check dialog show a period followed by a character
that looks like a small circle with an arrow at about 320 degrees. Neither
of these objects occur in the text on screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start
checking' does not move the spell check past the offending text.

Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does not
affect this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen and in PDF,
but the spell check is responding to something invisible in the file that
appears to be resistant to removal.

Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of the
adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's far too late
to redo any of this.

-- 
Steve
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RE: Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:50 -0500 22/12/09, Rick Quatro wrote:

The first thing I would do is save the file as MIF and reopen it.

Thanks Rick... but, following earlier oddities, all the files in this book have 
been thoroughly MIFfed.

-- 
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RE: control the size of the element tags in document

[Nakshatra Bhardwaj]

Hi Jakob,
 
The maker.ini setting to achieve what you want is available under 
[StructureView] preferences as:
ElemSize=

Modify it as per your need and let us know if that's what you expected.

Regards,
Nakshatra

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jakob Fix
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:48 AM
To: s...@leximation.com
Cc: Framers List
Subject: Re: control the size of the element tags in document

thanks Scott, that was kind of what I was expecting.

cheers,
Jakob.



On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 18:05, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:
 Other than by changing the zoom size of the whole document, I've never seen
 a way to do this.

 ...scott


 Jakob Fix wrote:

 Hi,

 I've been asked whether it's possible to control the font size of the
 element tags that are displayed in the document when View  Element
 Boundaries (as Tags) is activated. I looked in the maker.ini file but
 didn't find anything that seemed related.

 Is there?

 Jakob.



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Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Stuart Rogers]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
 FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with
 some Word dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at
 present.)
 
 The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing
 'Extra space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen.
 The objects displayed in the spell check dialog show a period
 followed by a character that looks like a small circle with an arrow
 at about 320 degrees. Neither of these objects occur in the text on
 screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start checking' does not move the spell
 check past the offending text.
 
 Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does
 not affect this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen
 and in PDF, but the spell check is responding to something invisible
 in the file that appears to be resistant to removal.
 
 Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of
 the adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's
 far too late to redo any of this.
 

Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain 
text editor?  Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see 
if there's anything unusual.  You might be able to do a find/replace 
operation within the text editor if you uncover some weird characters.

Good luck,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: Read/ Writes Rules or EDD - Adding Auto Column Naming to Translated Table with 4 or more columns (in FM9)

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Richard,

If you are using FrameScript anyway, you could use FrameScript to populate
the table headings correctly.

Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com
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I am attempting to translate a series of elements into in a table on 
import into framemaker (Fm9). The scope is that I only need to produce a 
printed version (using Framescript) of the document, it is not necessary 
to parse out the .xml afterwards. 

In the original .xml  this was a list (The container for each item was 
equip-name, containing 4 elements (title, part-no*, spec*, qty*), having 
added table elements to the edd and translated with RW rules to table 
elements; on import this translates into a four-column table using 
equip-name as the row element, and title, part-no, spec, qty as cells . 
Although adding a headrow populates with blank elements (entry) I am 
unable to use context rules to add autonum/text to populate all four 
column headings, context rules only seem to work where tables have three 
columns or less; where using first, last , middle, between etc is 
adequate. 

Can anyone help?

Thanks

Richard


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Read/ Writes Rules or EDD - Adding Auto Column Naming to Translated Table with 4 or more columns (in FM9)

[richard . burfield]

I am attempting to translate a series of elements into in a table on 
import into framemaker (Fm9). The scope is that I only need to produce a 
printed version (using Framescript) of the document, it is not necessary 
to parse out the .xml afterwards. 

In the original .xml  this was a list (The container for each item was 
equip-name, containing 4 elements (title, part-no*, spec*, qty*), having 
added table elements to the edd and translated with RW rules to table 
elements; on import this translates into a four-column table using 
equip-name as the row element, and title, part-no, spec, qty as cells . 
Although adding a headrow populates with blank elements (entry) I am 
unable to use context rules to add autonum/text to populate all four 
column headings, context rules only seem to work where tables have three 
columns or less; where using first, last , middle, between etc is 
adequate. 

Can anyone help?

Thanks

Richard



  
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X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Spectrum Writing]

All,

 

I have a template that  I created in FM7.2  In this template, I have a
paragraph tag called StepNumberBegin that has the following autonumber
format: S:n=1.\t and a paragraph tag called StepNumberContinued that has
the following autonumber format: S:n+.\t 

 

I also have the following x-ref formats:

·  Step  which is formatted as LinkStep $paranumonlyDefault ¶
Font

· Step.  which is formatted as LinkStep $paranumonly.Default ¶
Font

 

Note that the ONLY difference between these two is the period. When I used
these formats in FM7.2, and set up an x-ref to a Step paragraph, as
expected, the automatic period after the numbering was either not included
or included depending on the x-ref format that I selected and I have
confirmed this by repeatedly testing in FM 7.2 - i.e.,

 

I get Step 1 Step 2 and so on if I use the Step x-ref format.

I get Step 1.  Step 2.  and so on if I use the Step. x-ref format.

 

In FM9 (all patched and updated), I decided to clean up the template and use
less tags and I now have a single tag called StepNumber that has the
autonumber format set to the following: N: n+.\t  =0  (This allows the
numbering to be automatically reset to 1 after a heading and
auto-increment correctly and the headings are set with the correct
autonumber formats to allow for this.)

 

However, when I use this these formats in FM9.0, and set up an x-ref to a
StepNumber paragraph, no matter which x-ref format that I use - I get the
period after the number if I use the Step x-ref format and I get a double
period if I use the Step. format - i.e.,

 

I get Step 1. if I use the Step x-ref format.

I get Step 1.. if I use the Step. x-ref format.

 

What am I missing here? The only difference is that I am having the
numbering be reset after a heading, but the format still is basically one
that has a period in it after the counter,  just like in FM7.2 and I am
specifying whether or not to include the period after the counter. 

 

Thanks,

 

TVB

 

 

 

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

i...@spectrumwritingllc.com

 

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RE: X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Combs, Richard]

Spectrum Writing wrote:
 
 In FM9 (all patched and updated), I decided to clean up the template
and
 use
 less tags and I now have a single tag called StepNumber that has the
 autonumber format set to the following: N: n+.\t  =0  (This
allows
 the
 numbering to be automatically reset to 1 after a heading and
 auto-increment correctly and the headings are set with the correct
 autonumber formats to allow for this.)

Why is  =0 there? Try taking it out. Reset of numbering after a
heading (or anything else) is implemented with the autonumber setting of
the heading. That's where you need a  =0 for each numbering stream you
want to reset. 

Here's what the autonumbering looks like for my numbered list tags: 

TaskIntroduction and all headings: N: =0 =0
This resets two levels of numbering to start over. 

ListNum: N:n+ =0\t
This increments the first level of numbering, which is numeric, and
resets the second to start over. 

ListAlpha: N: a+\t
This leaves the first level unchanged and undisplayed, and increments
the second level, which is lower-case alpha. 

HTH! 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Re: control the size of the element tags in document

[Scott Prentice]

Very cool.

Thanks!

...scott


Nakshatra Bhardwaj wrote:
 Hi Jakob,
  
 The maker.ini setting to achieve what you want is available under 
 [StructureView] preferences as:
 ElemSize=

 Modify it as per your need and let us know if that's what you expected.

 Regards,
 Nakshatra

   
   
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Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:23 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote:

Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text 
editor?  Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's 
anything unusual.  You might be able to do a find/replace operation within the 
text editor if you uncover some weird characters.

No: great idea. [Does that...] Here is the relevant bit of text, complete with 
the cross-reference and the table anchor that follows it. The spell checker 
stops between the words 'shown in' and the figure reference.

There is nothing odd that I can see here, but I'm not an expert at reading MIF. 
Turning on display of non-printing characters shows nothing odd either.

Which is odd...

  ParaLine
   String `channels shared by client and server. The remote procedure call can 
therefore implement '
   # end of ParaLine
  ParaLine
   String `the interface shown in '
   XRef
XRefName `Figure'
XRefSrcText `51945: FigureTitle: Figure 5.26:'
XRefSrcIsElem No
XRefSrcFile `'
XRefLastUpdate  1261493773 0
Unique 1042923
# end of XRef
   String `Figure 5.26'
   XRefEnd 
   String `.  '
   Font
FTag `'
FLanguage UKEnglish
FLocked No
# end of Font
   ATbl 45
   # end of ParaLine

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Re: X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Stuart Rogers]

Spectrum Writing wrote:
 All,
 
  
 
 I have a template that  I created in FM7.2  In this template, I have a
 paragraph tag called StepNumberBegin that has the following autonumber
 format: S:n=1.\t and a paragraph tag called StepNumberContinued that has
 the following autonumber format: S:n+.\t 
 
  
 
 I also have the following x-ref formats:
 
 ·  Step  which is formatted as LinkStep $paranumonlyDefault ¶
 Font
 
 · Step.  which is formatted as LinkStep $paranumonly.Default ¶
 Font
 
  
 
 Note that the ONLY difference between these two is the period. When I used
 these formats in FM7.2, and set up an x-ref to a Step paragraph, as
 expected, the automatic period after the numbering was either not included
 or included depending on the x-ref format that I selected and I have
 confirmed this by repeatedly testing in FM 7.2 - i.e.,
 
  
 
 I get Step 1 Step 2 and so on if I use the Step x-ref format.
 
 I get Step 1.  Step 2.  and so on if I use the Step. x-ref format.
 
  
 
 In FM9 (all patched and updated), I decided to clean up the template and use
 less tags and I now have a single tag called StepNumber that has the
 autonumber format set to the following: N: n+.\t  =0  (This allows the
 numbering to be automatically reset to 1 after a heading and
 auto-increment correctly and the headings are set with the correct
 autonumber formats to allow for this.)
 
  
 
 However, when I use this these formats in FM9.0, and set up an x-ref to a
 StepNumber paragraph, no matter which x-ref format that I use - I get the
 period after the number if I use the Step x-ref format and I get a double
 period if I use the Step. format - i.e.,
 
  
 
 I get Step 1. if I use the Step x-ref format.
 
 I get Step 1.. if I use the Step. x-ref format.
 
  
 
 What am I missing here? The only difference is that I am having the
 numbering be reset after a heading, but the format still is basically one
 that has a period in it after the counter,  just like in FM7.2 and I am
 specifying whether or not to include the period after the counter. 
 

No; a second difference is that your period is now between two counters, 
n+ and  =0.  It makes sense that FM would parse to the end of the 
series of counters when copying $paranumonly, so the period would always 
appear.

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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RE: X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Spectrum Writing]

Lots of ways to skin a cat in FM, huh? (Sorry to all cat-lovers out there!)
Anyway, between Richard, Stuart's and Rick's reply, I got some stuff
modified to get what I needed.

Thanks all!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:22 AM
To: Spectrum Writing; framers@lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers
Subject: RE: X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

Spectrum Writing wrote:
 
 In FM9 (all patched and updated), I decided to clean up the template
and
 use
 less tags and I now have a single tag called StepNumber that has the
 autonumber format set to the following: N: n+.\t  =0  (This
allows
 the
 numbering to be automatically reset to 1 after a heading and
 auto-increment correctly and the headings are set with the correct
 autonumber formats to allow for this.)

Why is  =0 there? Try taking it out. Reset of numbering after a
heading (or anything else) is implemented with the autonumber setting of
the heading. That's where you need a  =0 for each numbering stream you
want to reset. 

Here's what the autonumbering looks like for my numbered list tags: 

TaskIntroduction and all headings: N: =0 =0
This resets two levels of numbering to start over. 

ListNum: N:n+ =0\t
This increments the first level of numbering, which is numeric, and
resets the second to start over. 

ListAlpha: N: a+\t
This leaves the first level unchanged and undisplayed, and increments
the second level, which is lower-case alpha. 

HTH! 

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Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Stuart Rogers]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
 At 10:23 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote:
 
 Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text 
 editor?  Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's 
 anything unusual.  You might be able to do a find/replace operation within 
 the text editor if you uncover some weird characters.
 
 No: great idea. [Does that...] Here is the relevant bit of text, complete 
 with the cross-reference and the table anchor that follows it. The spell 
 checker stops between the words 'shown in' and the figure reference.
 
 There is nothing odd that I can see here, but I'm not an expert at reading 
 MIF. Turning on display of non-printing characters shows nothing odd either.
 
 Which is odd...
 
   ParaLine
String `channels shared by client and server. The remote procedure call 
 can therefore implement '
# end of ParaLine
   ParaLine
String `the interface shown in '
XRef
 XRefName `Figure'
 XRefSrcText `51945: FigureTitle: Figure 5.26:'
 XRefSrcIsElem No
 XRefSrcFile `'
 XRefLastUpdate  1261493773 0
 Unique 1042923
 # end of XRef
String `Figure 5.26'
XRefEnd 
String `.  '
Font
 FTag `'
 FLanguage UKEnglish
 FLocked No
 # end of Font
ATbl 45
# end of ParaLine
 

Looks perfectly normal (compared to a test file I just made).  Have you 
tried typing something in the Correction box and clicking Correct? 
After that, I'm out of ideas, sorry.

Good luck,

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Technical Communicator
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Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:27:40 +, Steve Rickaby 
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:

You *do* have an extra space after the period after the
xref:

   String `.  '

You might try removing it in the MIF.  It might be something
other than a space, though it comes across as one in the email;
try replacing both chars with a real space.

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Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check: resolved, sort of

[Steve Rickaby]

At 12:51 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote:

Looks perfectly normal (compared to a test file I just made).  Have you tried 
typing something in the Correction box and clicking Correct? After that, I'm 
out of ideas, sorry.

The suggested correction is the non-existent period following by one space and 
then the weird circle character. Accepting it does not change the on-screen 
text *or* clear the imaginary spelling violation. Entering some random text in 
the correction field and clicking 'Correct' has the same result - that is, 
nothing changes on screen and the imaginary condition doesn't clear.

I'm out of ideas too, but the book is on its way to press. I guess it just goes 
to prove that we come across something new every day, whether we like it or not.

At 14:06 -0800 22/12/09, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote:

You *do* have an extra space after the period after the
xref:

   String `.  '

Yes - and this is present in the on-screen text too. Actually whatever is there 
is two invisible characters.

You might try removing it in the MIF.  It might be something other than a 
space, though it comes across as one in the email; try replacing both chars 
with a real space.

Bravo, Jeremy... fixed. There must have been something lurking in the trailing 
'spaces' that didn't show up as invisibles in the text editor (nor was it 
removed either by zapping non-ASCII characters or zapping control characters).

Editing the FrameMaker file on screen to remove the trailing 'spaces' had the 
same effect, clearing the imagined spelling violation. It is of interest that 
the spell check stopped before the xref, although the troublesome characters 
followed it.

I guess Word is the culprit - as usual. Or poltergeists.

-- 
Steve
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FM-9 Enhanced Toolbars english/german

[Klaus Daube]

Friends of FrameMaker,

Most of You know the ToolbarPro Express Customisation from Shlomo Perets, 
available since FM-
6 (or even 5.5). Recently he published the FM-9 version, but without the button 
bar, which i 
developed now.

Although Klaus M?ller from ITL is not that happy with my arrangement of 
buttons, i put this 
into your hands. Maybe I can add a KM flavour later. You will find an 
installation routine 
at:

http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker55.html english version
http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker56.html german version

A bug in FM9 (see http://forums.adobe.com/thread/510610) is circumvented by 
leaving out the 
respictive menu item. The documentation at 
http://www.daube.ch/docu/files/Toolbar-fm9.pdf 
provides background information.

Have fun
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Placing title of figure

[Stamm, David-P45904]

2009-12-22-02T13:45Z

FrameMaker 8.0p277 (structured)

Please respond as soon as possible.

I know my answer to the following, but I need authoritative, expert, 
independent opinions to confirm or refute my answer.

Given:
  1.  document type definition file and transformation files provided by 
customer

  2.  no authority or permission to change any of them

  3.  following excerpt from document type definition file:








Choose the correct answer from the following list.  The title of the figure 
("graphic")  appears:
  a.  above figure
  b.  below figure
  c.  left of figure
  d.  right of figure
  e.  somewhere else
  f.  none of the above

?Thanks! in advance for your time and interest.

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Placing title of figure

[Rick Quatro]

a or c

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Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Steve Rickaby]

FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with some Word 
dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at present.)

The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing 'Extra 
space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen. The objects 
displayed in the spell check dialog show a period followed by a character that 
looks like a small circle with an arrow at about 320 degrees. Neither of these 
objects occur in the text on screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start checking' does 
not move the spell check past the offending text.

Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does not affect 
this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen and in PDF, but the 
spell check is responding to something invisible in the file that appears to be 
resistant to removal.

Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of the 
adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's far too late to 
redo any of this.

-- 
Steve

Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Steve,

The first thing I would do is save the file as MIF and reopen it.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com/peace/


FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with some
Word dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at present.)

The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing 'Extra
space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen. The objects
displayed in the spell check dialog show a period followed by a character
that looks like a small circle with an arrow at about 320 degrees. Neither
of these objects occur in the text on screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start
checking' does not move the spell check past the offending text.

Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does not
affect this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen and in PDF,
but the spell check is responding to something invisible in the file that
appears to be resistant to removal.

Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of the
adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's far too late
to redo any of this.

-- 
Steve
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Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:50 -0500 22/12/09, Rick Quatro wrote:

>The first thing I would do is save the file as MIF and reopen it.

Thanks Rick... but, following earlier oddities, all the files in this book have 
been thoroughly MIFfed.

-- 
Steve

control the size of the element tags in document

[Nakshatra Bhardwaj]

Hi Jakob,

The maker.ini setting to achieve what you want is available under 
[StructureView] preferences as:
ElemSize=""

Modify it as per your need and let us know if that's what you expected.

Regards,
Nakshatra

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jakob Fix
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 3:48 AM
To: sp at leximation.com
Cc: Framers List
Subject: Re: control the size of the element tags in document

thanks Scott, that was kind of what I was expecting.

cheers,
Jakob.



On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 18:05, Scott Prentice  wrote:
> Other than by changing the zoom size of the whole document, I've never seen
> a way to do this.
>
> ...scott
>
>
> Jakob Fix wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been asked whether it's possible to control the font size of the
>> element tags that are displayed in the document when View > Element
>> Boundaries (as Tags) is activated. I looked in the maker.ini file but
>> didn't find anything that seemed related.
>>
>> Is there?
>>
>> Jakob.
>>
>>
>
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Read/ Writes Rules or EDD - Adding Auto Column Naming to Translated Table with 4 or more columns (in FM9)

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I am attempting to translate a series of elements into in a table on 
import into framemaker (Fm9). The scope is that I only need to produce a 
printed version (using Framescript) of the document, it is not necessary 
to parse out the .xml afterwards. 

In the original .xml  this was a list (The container for each item was 
equip-name, containing 4 elements (title, part-no*, spec*, qty*), having 
added table elements to the edd and translated with RW rules to table 
elements; on import this translates into a four-column table using 
equip-name as the row element, and title, part-no, spec, qty as cells . 
Although adding a headrow populates with blank elements (entry) I am 
unable to use context rules to add autonum/text to populate all four 
column headings, context rules only seem to work where tables have three 
columns or less; where using first, last , middle, between etc is 
adequate. 

Can anyone help?

Thanks

Richard




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Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Stuart Rogers]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
> FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with
> some Word dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at
> present.)
> 
> The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing
> 'Extra space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen.
> The objects displayed in the spell check dialog show a period
> followed by a character that looks like a small circle with an arrow
> at about 320 degrees. Neither of these objects occur in the text on
> screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start checking' does not move the spell
> check past the offending text.
> 
> Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does
> not affect this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen
> and in PDF, but the spell check is responding to something invisible
> in the file that appears to be resistant to removal.
> 
> Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of
> the adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's
> far too late to redo any of this.
> 

Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain 
text editor?  Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see 
if there's anything unusual.  You might be able to do a find/replace 
operation within the text editor if you uncover some weird characters.

Good luck,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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Read/ Writes Rules or EDD - Adding Auto Column Naming to Translated Table with 4 or more columns (in FM9)

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Richard,

If you are using FrameScript anyway, you could use FrameScript to populate
the table headings correctly.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
www.frameexpert.com

http://www.frameexpert.com/peace/

I am attempting to translate a series of elements into in a table on 
import into framemaker (Fm9). The scope is that I only need to produce a 
printed version (using Framescript) of the document, it is not necessary 
to parse out the .xml afterwards. 

In the original .xml  this was a list (The container for each item was 
equip-name, containing 4 elements (title, part-no*, spec*, qty*), having 
added table elements to the edd and translated with RW rules to table 
elements; on import this translates into a four-column table using 
equip-name as the row element, and title, part-no, spec, qty as cells . 
Although adding a headrow populates with blank elements (entry) I am 
unable to use context rules to add autonum/text to populate all four 
column headings, context rules only seem to work where tables have three 
columns or less; where using first, last , middle, between etc is 
adequate. 

Can anyone help?

Thanks

Richard

X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Spectrum Writing]

All,



I have a template that  I created in FM7.2  In this template, I have a
paragraph tag called "StepNumberBegin" that has the following autonumber
format: 

X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Combs, Richard]

Spectrum Writing wrote:

> In FM9 (all patched and updated), I decided to clean up the template
and
> use
> less tags and I now have a single tag called StepNumber that has the
> autonumber format set to the following: N:< >.\t < =0>  (This
allows
> the
> numbering to be automatically reset to "1" after a heading and
> auto-increment correctly and the headings are set with the correct
> autonumber formats to allow for this.)

Why is < =0> there? Try taking it out. Reset of numbering after a
heading (or anything else) is implemented with the autonumber setting of
the heading. That's where you need a < =0> for each numbering stream you
want to reset. 

Here's what the autonumbering looks like for my numbered list tags: 

TaskIntroduction and all headings: N:< =0>< =0>
This resets two levels of numbering to start over. 

ListNum: N:< =0>\t
This increments the first level of numbering, which is numeric, and
resets the second to start over. 

ListAlpha: N:< >\t
This leaves the first level unchanged and undisplayed, and increments
the second level, which is lower-case alpha. 

HTH! 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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303-223-5111
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control the size of the element tags in document

[Scott Prentice]

Very cool.

Thanks!

...scott


Nakshatra Bhardwaj wrote:
> Hi Jakob,
>  
> The maker.ini setting to achieve what you want is available under 
> [StructureView] preferences as:
> ElemSize=""
>
> Modify it as per your need and let us know if that's what you expected.
>
> Regards,
> Nakshatra
>
>   
>   

Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Steve Rickaby]

At 10:23 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote:

>Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text 
>editor?  Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's 
>anything unusual.  You might be able to do a find/replace operation within the 
>text editor if you uncover some weird characters.

No: great idea. [Does that...] Here is the relevant bit of text, complete with 
the cross-reference and the table anchor that follows it. The spell checker 
stops between the words 'shown in' and the figure reference.

There is nothing odd that I can see here, but I'm not an expert at reading MIF. 
Turning on display of non-printing characters shows nothing odd either.

Which is odd...

  
  > # end of ParaLine
  
   





   > # end of XRef
   
   
   
   


   > # end of Font
   
  > # end of ParaLine

-- 
Steve

X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Stuart Rogers]

Spectrum Writing wrote:
> All,
> 
>  
> 
> I have a template that  I created in FM7.2  In this template, I have a
> paragraph tag called "StepNumberBegin" that has the following autonumber
> format: 

X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

[Spectrum Writing]

Lots of ways to skin a cat in FM, huh? (Sorry to all cat-lovers out there!)
Anyway, between Richard, Stuart's and Rick's reply, I got some stuff
modified to get what I needed.

Thanks all!

TVB

Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
info at spectrumwritingllc.com


-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:22 AM
To: Spectrum Writing; framers at lists.frameusers.com; Free Framers
Subject: RE: X-refs working differently in FM 7.2 vs. FM 9?

Spectrum Writing wrote:

> In FM9 (all patched and updated), I decided to clean up the template
and
> use
> less tags and I now have a single tag called StepNumber that has the
> autonumber format set to the following: N:< >.\t < =0>  (This
allows
> the
> numbering to be automatically reset to "1" after a heading and
> auto-increment correctly and the headings are set with the correct
> autonumber formats to allow for this.)

Why is < =0> there? Try taking it out. Reset of numbering after a
heading (or anything else) is implemented with the autonumber setting of
the heading. That's where you need a < =0> for each numbering stream you
want to reset. 

Here's what the autonumbering looks like for my numbered list tags: 

TaskIntroduction and all headings: N:< =0>< =0>
This resets two levels of numbering to start over. 

ListNum: N:< =0>\t
This increments the first level of numbering, which is numeric, and
resets the second to start over. 

ListAlpha: N:< >\t
This leaves the first level unchanged and undisplayed, and increments
the second level, which is lower-case alpha. 

HTH! 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Stuart Rogers]

Steve Rickaby wrote:
> At 10:23 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> 
>> Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text 
>> editor?  Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's 
>> anything unusual.  You might be able to do a find/replace operation within 
>> the text editor if you uncover some weird characters.
> 
> No: great idea. [Does that...] Here is the relevant bit of text, complete 
> with the cross-reference and the table anchor that follows it. The spell 
> checker stops between the words 'shown in' and the figure reference.
> 
> There is nothing odd that I can see here, but I'm not an expert at reading 
> MIF. Turning on display of non-printing characters shows nothing odd either.
> 
> Which is odd...
> 
>can therefore implement '>
>   > # end of ParaLine
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> # end of XRef
>
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>> # end of Font
>
>   > # end of ParaLine
> 

Looks perfectly normal (compared to a test file I just made).  Have you 
tried typing something in the Correction box and clicking Correct? 
After that, I'm out of ideas, sorry.

Good luck,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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Something that makes no sense in spell check

[Jeremy H. Griffith]

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:27:40 +, Steve Rickaby 
 wrote:

You *do* have an extra space after the period after the
xref:

>   

You might try removing it in the MIF.  It might be something
other than a space, though it comes across as one in the email;
try replacing both chars with a real space.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/