RE: Cannot import graphics SOLVED

2015-01-26 Thread Stamm, David
2015-01-26-01T14:40Z

My thanks to Art Campbell for reminding me of the option to “Mifwash” the 
offending file, which resolved the problem.

¡Thanks, Art!

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Sent: 2015-01-23-Fri 15:52
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Subject: Re: Cannot import graphics

What type of graphics?
Have you checked your ownership / permissions of the graphics files?

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Try saving the file to .mif to clean it up in case stray characters have 
corrupted it. Then open the .MIF and see what happens.

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Stamm, David 
david.st...@gd-ms.commailto:david.st...@gd-ms.com wrote:
2015-01-22-04T16:15Z

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system
Serviced pack 1
8.0 GB RAM
64-bit
FrameMaker 12.0.3.424
Local administrator privileges
Shortcut to FrameMaker encoded to run as administrator

I cannot import graphics - by either reference or by copying - either into a 
table or not into a table - from either C:\ or from a network drive.  The 
anchor for the imported file appears, but the graphic does not.  I discovered 
this in a production file.  The file is locked up so hard that I have to use 
Task Manager to force out.  I have replicated this numerous times in both the 
production file and in new files freshly made from templates.

I _can_ import files as text insets without problem, but _once_, I deleted the 
text inset, and the file locked up as it has with graphics.

Conversely, if I use Windows Explorer to copy the graphic file or the text 
inset file and then paste it into the FrameMaker file, both the anchor and the 
graphic or the icon for the .fm file appear.

A fellow employee running version 12.0.2.389 had no problem importing a graphic 
from a network drive via VPN.

I've already reported this to the corporate service desk, but I've noticed no 
mentions on this list of such problems.

¿Any thoughts?

Dave Stamm

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RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-26 Thread Harding, Dan
Au contraire. I don't believe the performance issues have anything to with 
either the JPEG image format or color rendering.

I've been suffering with the same symptoms for eons and the only image formats 
I am linking to are either grayscale PDFs or grayscale TIFFs. If possible, we 
avoid using the JPEG format entirely for print production.

I have tried LZW vs. non-LZW compression on TIFF images, but that does not 
appear to have an impact.

One thing I have not done is to test whether embedding vs. linking improves the 
page-to-page rendering performance. Of course, embedding all images is NOT a 
viable solution.

-Dan

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Hi Dave,

this is a 'well known' FrameMaker issue. It has to do with your image format 
(jpg?) and image color settings. We had similar issues with sRGB jpg images. 
Somehow FM has trouble translating the color information to screen presentation.

You, and others experiencing the same, should report it to the FrameMaker 
development team (in cc) so they can do something about it for a next release.


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Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

2015-01-26 Thread Lin Sims
Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review
invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been
able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is
complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service
for collecting the review comments.

I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and
send it on with whatever information is required, but you know what they
say about assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if
a reviewer tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on
the cloud server.

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RE: FrameMaker locks up SOLVED

2015-01-26 Thread Stamm, David
2015-01-26-01T16:10Z

My thanks to Art Campbell for reminding me of the option to Mifwash the 
offending file, which resolved the problem.

¡Thanks, Art!
Dave Stamm

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stamm, David
Sent: 2015-01-23-Fri 10:33
To: FrameMaker user's list posting
Subject: FrameMaker locks up

2015-01-23-05T15:30Z

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system
Serviced pack 1
8.0 GB RAM
64-bit
FrameMaker 12.0.3.424 unstructured
Local administrator privileges
Shortcut to FrameMaker encoded to run as administrator

Yesterday, I posted about this problem under the subject, Cannot import 
graphics.  Today, I experienced the lockup while using the Paragraph Designer 
pod (which I guess is the term) when the pod is part of a tab group (which 
I again guess is the term).

In my layout of FrameMaker, I customarily have the tab group of the Character 
Catalog, Find/Change, Hypertext, Marker, and Paragraph Designer pods displayed 
in a tab group.

Today, I had copied examples of two paragraph tags from a template and had 
pasted the examples into my production file.  I had applied one of the 
newly-added paragraph tags where I wanted it.  Then, in the tab group, on the 
Paragraph Designer pod, I chose the Apply button.  It was then that I heard 
the ding that indicates that FrameMaker is locked up hard and that I'll have 
to use Task Manger to force it out of the system.

My installation of FrameMaker was updated to the current version only a week or 
so ago.  Because I have seen no other postings about this problem, I wonder 
whether there's a conflict between the latest update and my employer's security 
software that causes the problem.  Although I've already reported this to the 
corporate service desk, I've had no response to that report.

The contributors to this are my best source of help in such situations.  ¿Any 
thoughts?

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
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Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

2015-01-26 Thread Heiko Haida
 

Hi Lin, 

if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based
email is used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the
review, which means that you cannot use the email review process at all
(as far as I understand it). 
You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that
is necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final
version at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the
files as original or commented versions of one review process. (...I
guess.) 

There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but
server-based: 

1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV) 

2) acrobat.com could be used as a server (Adobe ID required for setup)


In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or
work with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered
to the server copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for
all reviewers and can also be answered, which can be very useful
(connection to server-path/internet must be available to publish the
comments). This way, the comments do not have to be re-imported into the
original version from all the different commented files. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin 

Lin Sims: 

 Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review 
 invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been 
 able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is 
 complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service 
 for collecting the review comments.
 
 I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send 
 it on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say about 
 assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a reviewer 
 tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on the cloud 
 server.
 
 -- 
 
 Lin Sims

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RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

2015-01-26 Thread Fred Ridder
I don't think that's entirely true, Tino.
You can still do a email-based PDF review with an unsupported mail system, but 
it's not automatic and it probably won't be integrated back to the FrameMaker 
source (I don't know about this last because I've never tried it).
The process involves exporting the comments from the PDF that each reviewer 
sends and then importing those comments into the master review PDF. Look in the 
Options menu for the Comments List section of the Comments tool palette (or 
whatevertheheck Adobe calls it...) for the Export All as Data File and 
Import Data File commands.
Not ideal, but it works, particularly if you keep the master file up to date 
and in a shared location, and all the reviewers are good about grabbing the 
latest copy of the master file before starting to add their own comments.

-Fred Ridder

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:50:17 +0100
From: i...@heiko-haida.de
To: ljsims...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review



Hi Lin,

if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based email is 
used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the review, which means 
that you cannot use the email review process at all (as far as I understand 
it). 
You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that is 
necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final version 
at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the files as 
original or commented versions of one review process. (...I guess.)

There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but 
server-based:

1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV)

2) acrobat.com could be used as a server (Adobe ID required for setup)

In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or work 
with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered to the server 
copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for all reviewers and can 
also be answered, which can be very useful (connection to server-path/internet 
must be available to publish the comments). This way, the comments do not 
have to be re-imported into the original version from all the different 
commented files.

Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin

 

Lin Sims:



Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review 
invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been able 
to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is complicated by 
the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service for collecting the 
review comments.


I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send it 
on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say about 
assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a reviewer 
tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on the cloud 
server.



-- 

Lin Sims





 



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FM Crashes after generating html

2015-01-26 Thread Cathy Giddens
I am using FM10  10.0.2.419 fully patched, as part of TCS, on Windows 7, over a 
remote desktop connection to the PC where FM is loaded.  The FM files are 
contained on a server which is possibly somewhere else again.

I am doing a 'Save book as htm' operation, I have edited the BookHtml and 
BookHeading mapping tables in the first file in the book as per the manual, and 
got it all set up so it looks right. It is set to generate separate files at 
each chapter and Heading1. The operation goes right through the process, takes 
about 3 minutes, generates 170 html files. Then FM crashes with a message that 
is essentially 'FM crashed'.

I've looked for the log files in AppData/Roaming in my user profile, and there 
is nothing for today's date - several log files for various previous hangs and 
crashes, but  nothing relating to dates I've created html files and crashed.

The html files all work well, I've been deleting the FM lock files en masse 
rather than opening FM and reset lock for each file.

Any suggestions appreciated on how to stop FM crashing at end of html process.


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RE: FrameMaker becomes unresponsive while running the script for the 2nd time

2015-01-26 Thread Pawan Kumar Keshari
Hi Bhavna,

For this script I am not having any error while saving the book after first run 
or running the script for second time.

Is this problem occurring for new book file also or just specific to a 
particular book file?
If possible can you share the file with us?

I am attaching a bit modified script to make it work on my side. Please see if 
this is correct.

Thanks,

Pawan Keshari

FM Engineering



I'm using Adobe Send.
You can view Source1.jsx at: 
https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/5540cdda-71a3-40cc-b455-0b0cdde1eca3

From: 
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bhavna Raghwani
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:51 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker becomes unresponsive while running the script for the 2nd 
time


Hi Framers,\



 I am trying to run to traverse through the paragraph tags in the book files 
and check for a condition applied on them using  the following script:

var openedBook = app.ActiveBook

//openBookFiles(openedBook)

//savePdf(openedBook,bookFile + .pdf)\

   var arr_ChapterIds=new Array();

 var bookChapter=openedBook.FirstComponentInBook

  var chapterId = bookChapter.id

 var pgfText = null;

var msg = null;

var totalPgfs = 0;

 /*  Calculating the number of chapters in the book */

while(chapterId)

{

 var chapterId = bookChapter.id

var chapterName = bookChapter.Name

chapterId=openFile(chapterName)



 if(chapterId!=0  chapterId!=)

 {

arr_ChapterIds.push(chapterId)

 }



 bookChapter = bookChapter.NextComponentInBook;

 chapterId = bookChapter.id;



 }



  //  Err(arr_ChapterIds.length);



/*Processing the tasks for each chapter*/



   for(i=0; iarr_ChapterIds.length;i++)

   {



var objcid=arr_ChapterIds[i];

cid=objcid.idhttp://objcid.id;

cname=objcid.Name;

 /* Traversing through the paragraphs*/

 var pgf = objcid.MainFlowInDoc.FirstTextFrameInFlow.FirstPgf;



  while(pgf.ObjectValid() == true)

{



totalPgfs = totalPgfs + 1;



var formatName = pgf.Name;





   var textRange = new TextRange();

textRange.beg.obj = pgf;

textRange.beg.offset = 0;

textRange.end.obj = pgf;

textRange.end.offset = Constants.FV_OBJ_END_OFFSET;





var textItems = objcid.GetTextForRange(textRange, Constants.FTI_String);





if(textItems.length  0)

{



pgfText = textItems[0].sdata;





if(pgfText.length  50)

pgfText = pgfText.substring(0, 50);

}



else pgfText = (No text!);







if(pgf.Name==Related_Topics  textItems.length0)



 { Err (Related Topics tag is applied for:+pgfText+\n\n);}







pgf = pgf.NextPgfInFlow;

}





   var getChangeBarVal=objcid.AutoChangeBars;

   if (getChangeBarVal==1)

   Err(Change Bars are on for:+cname+\n\n);

   else

   Err(Change Bars are off for:+cname+\n\n);



}



function openFile(chapterName)

{

openProp = GetOpenDefaultParams()

retParm = new PropVals()

fileOpen=Open(chapterName,openProp,retParm)

return fileOpen;

}



This script runs fine for the first time and displays the result on the 
FrameMaker console. However, here are the issues that I am facing:

  *   After the execution is finished for  the first time and as I try to save 
the book file, FrameMaker displays an error message
  *   If I run the script the next time, FrameMaker becomes completely 
unresponsive needing a forced shutdown



There are many paragraph tags that the script traverses through and probably 
stores in a variable. Therefore, I think it may be a memory issue.



Can you please go through the script and help me in debugging the issue. Thanks.



Regards,

Bhavna
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FrameMaker becomes unresponsive while running the script for the 2nd time

2015-01-26 Thread Bhavna Raghwani
Hi Framers,\


 I am trying to run to traverse through the paragraph tags in the book
files and check for a condition applied on them using  the following script:

var openedBook = app.ActiveBook

//openBookFiles(openedBook)

//savePdf(openedBook,bookFile + .pdf)\

   var arr_ChapterIds=new Array();

 var bookChapter=openedBook.FirstComponentInBook

  var chapterId = bookChapter.id

 var pgfText = null;

var msg = null;

var totalPgfs = 0;

 /*  Calculating the number of chapters in the book */

while(chapterId)

{

 var chapterId = bookChapter.id

var chapterName = bookChapter.Name

chapterId=openFile(chapterName)



 if(chapterId!=0  chapterId!=)

 {

arr_ChapterIds.push(chapterId)

 }



 bookChapter = bookChapter.NextComponentInBook;

 chapterId = bookChapter.id;



 }



  //  Err(arr_ChapterIds.length);



/*Processing the tasks for each chapter*/



   for(i=0; iarr_ChapterIds.length;i++)

   {



var objcid=arr_ChapterIds[i];

cid=objcid.id;

cname=objcid.Name;

 /* Traversing through the paragraphs*/

 var pgf = objcid.MainFlowInDoc.FirstTextFrameInFlow.FirstPgf;



  while(pgf.ObjectValid() == true)

{



totalPgfs = totalPgfs + 1;



var formatName = pgf.Name;





   var textRange = new TextRange();

textRange.beg.obj = pgf;

textRange.beg.offset = 0;

textRange.end.obj = pgf;

textRange.end.offset = Constants.FV_OBJ_END_OFFSET;





var textItems = objcid.GetTextForRange(textRange,
Constants.FTI_String);





if(textItems.length  0)

{



pgfText = textItems[0].sdata;





if(pgfText.length  50)

pgfText = pgfText.substring(0, 50);

}



else pgfText = (No text!);







if(pgf.Name==Related_Topics  textItems.length0)



 { Err (Related Topics tag is applied for:+pgfText+\n\n);}







pgf = pgf.NextPgfInFlow;

}





   var getChangeBarVal=objcid.AutoChangeBars;

   if (getChangeBarVal==1)

   Err(Change Bars are on for:+cname+\n\n);

   else

   Err(Change Bars are off for:+cname+\n\n);



}



function openFile(chapterName)

{

openProp = GetOpenDefaultParams()

retParm = new PropVals()

fileOpen=Open(chapterName,openProp,retParm)

return fileOpen;

}



This script runs fine for the first time and displays the result on the
FrameMaker console. However, here are the issues that I am facing:

   - After the execution is finished for  the first time and as I try to
   save the book file, FrameMaker displays an error message
   - If I run the script the next time, FrameMaker becomes completely
   unresponsive needing a forced shutdown



There are many paragraph tags that the script traverses through and
probably stores in a variable. Therefore, I think it may be a memory issue.



Can you please go through the script and help me in debugging the issue.
Thanks.



Regards,

Bhavna
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RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

2015-01-26 Thread Heiko Haida
 

Hi Fred, 

I was also thinking of the fact that Acrobat will use a PDF file with
some modifications, like the comment function readied for Adobe Reader,
not the original file.
(This is a useful service and you would have to keep this in mind if
your doing it without Acrobat.) 

But you are right, of course it is possible to share the file and start
a review-cycle the old-fashioned way, only -- probably -- this will not
be so effortless.
To me, the server-based workflow seems to be better suited for a quick
and efficient review than the email-based workflow. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Fred Ridder: 

 I don't think that's entirely true, Tino.
 You can still do a email-based PDF review with an unsupported mail system, 
 but it's not automatic and it probably won't be integrated back to the 
 FrameMaker source (I don't know about this last because I've never tried it).
 The process involves exporting the comments from the PDF that each reviewer 
 sends and then importing those comments into the master review PDF. Look in 
 the Options menu for the Comments List section of the Comments tool palette 
 (or whatevertheheck Adobe calls it...) for the Export All as Data File and 
 Import Data File commands.
 Not ideal, but it works, particularly if you keep the master file up to date 
 and in a shared location, and all the reviewers are good about grabbing the 
 latest copy of the master file before starting to add their own comments.
 
 -Fred Ridder
 
 -
 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:50:17 +0100
 From: i...@heiko-haida.de
 To: ljsims...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review
 
 Hi Lin,
 if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based email 
 is used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the review, which 
 means that you cannot use the email review process at all (as far as I 
 understand it). 
 You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that is 
 necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final version 
 at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the files as 
 original or commented versions of one review process. (...I guess.)
 There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but 
 server-based:
 1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV)
 2) acrobat.com could be used as a server (Adobe ID required for setup)
 In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or work 
 with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered to the 
 server copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for all reviewers 
 and can also be answered, which can be very useful (connection to 
 server-path/internet must be available to publish the comments). This way, 
 the comments do not have to be re-imported into the original version from all 
 the different commented files.
 Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin
 
 Lin Sims:
 
 Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review 
 invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been 
 able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is 
 complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service 
 for collecting the review comments.
 
 I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send 
 it on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say 
 about assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a 
 reviewer tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on 
 the cloud server.
 
 -- 
 
 Lin Sims
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Acrobat Shared Review question (date extention)

2015-01-26 Thread Grant Hogarth

 
  Question, not really FM-related, but there does not seem to be an easily-Googled answer...
  Once a review has completed, is there any way to extend the review date, or do I have to reissue a new document?
  
  Grant
  Frustrated in CO.
 

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RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

2015-01-26 Thread Zimmerman, Gary

When you do a server-based shared review, each reviewer's comments are actually 
stored separate from the review PDF, in separate XML files that are somehow 
linked to the PDF document.  That’s why you can have multiple reviewers 
reviewing and marking up the document at the same time.

If you use the option to save an archive copy of the file, the comments 
existing at the moment are all flattened into the PDF file that is saved, as 
regular PDF-based comments and markup.

Not sure how that's handled with email-distributed review copies going to 
reviewers who don't have access to the server where all the XML files are 
stored.

-- garyZ



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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 2:25 PM
To: Fred Ridder
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review


Hi Fred,

I was also thinking of the fact that Acrobat will use a PDF file with some 
modifications, like the comment function readied for Adobe Reader, not the 
original file.
(This is a useful service and you would have to keep this in mind if your doing 
it without Acrobat.)

But you are right, of course it is possible to share the file and start a 
review-cycle the old-fashioned way, only -- probably -- this will not be so 
effortless.
To me, the server-based workflow seems to be better suited for a quick and 
efficient review than the email-based workflow.

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin



Fred Ridder:
I don't think that's entirely true, Tino.
You can still do a email-based PDF review with an unsupported mail system, but 
it's not automatic and it probably won't be integrated back to the FrameMaker 
source (I don't know about this last because I've never tried it).
The process involves exporting the comments from the PDF that each reviewer 
sends and then importing those comments into the master review PDF. Look in the 
Options menu for the Comments List section of the Comments tool palette (or 
whatevertheheck Adobe calls it...) for the Export All as Data File and 
Import Data File commands.
Not ideal, but it works, particularly if you keep the master file up to date 
and in a shared location, and all the reviewers are good about grabbing the 
latest copy of the master file before starting to add their own comments.

-Fred Ridder

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:50:17 +0100
From: i...@heiko-haida.demailto:i...@heiko-haida.de
To: ljsims...@gmail.commailto:ljsims...@gmail.com; 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review

Hi Lin,
if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based email is 
used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the review, which means 
that you cannot use the email review process at all (as far as I understand it).
You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that is 
necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final version 
at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the files as 
original or commented versions of one review process. (...I guess.)
There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but 
server-based:
1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV)
2) acrobat.com could be used as a server (Adobe ID required for setup)
In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or work 
with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered to the server 
copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for all reviewers and can 
also be answered, which can be very useful (connection to server-path/internet 
must be available to publish the comments). This way, the comments do not 
have to be re-imported into the original version from all the different 
commented files.
Best regards - Tino H. Haida. Berlin

Lin Sims:
Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review 
invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been able 
to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is complicated by 
the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service for collecting the 
review comments.
I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send it 
on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say about 
assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a reviewer 
tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on the cloud 
server.

--
Lin Sims
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