RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

2015-06-03 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Craig,

Thanks for the information.  It is interesting that CMYK and RGB choices make a 
difference in the internal handling of graphics by FM.

The failing keyboard commands have been going on for several months now, and I 
make sure the caps lock key is not on.  I have been learning workarounds, even 
going so far as to saving a file with special characters (e.g., non-breaking 
hyphen) so that I can copy and paste.  I have even used the search and replace 
to use the \+ to replace regular hyphens.

The problem is seriously annoying.  FM was extremely stable before Adobe added 
the new interface with pods. 
 I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to 
fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy.  Oh well ...

Thanks for your input,

Ed


From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 7:26 PM
To: De Rosier, Edward
Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

With FM12 through update 12.0.2.389 transparent graphics worked for me if I 
printed to CMYK. It takes longer but works. I had two graphics with clipping 
paths that I was using on top of a patterned background. I never saw thin lines 
around the borders either.

With the later FM12 updates CMYK caused some graphics to disappear entirely so 
that made CMYK printing impossibly chancy. RGB worked fine but lost the 
transparency.

I never had problems with Esc-m-p except when the caps lock key was 
accidentally on or when neither a graphic or an anchored frame weren't 
selected. Worked every time for me. Same with non-breaking hyphens, so maybe 
your caps lock key is on. Can't comment on the en and em spaces.

Good luck,

Craig
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RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

2015-06-03 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Keith,

In my opinion, the ribbon is not any better than menus that use drop-down 
lists.  In most instances (for me), the ribbon is less intuitive than drop-down 
menus, and I frequently struggle to find specific commands.  My tired old eyes 
prefer larger fonts and images, but the ribbons take up a lot of screen real 
estate compared to a single row of menu items.  Why not offer drop-down menus 
that can be pulled away as free floating and dockable pods?

All software house should provide an interface option that allows users to get 
all of the new features (in any specific release) with a choice of interface 
options:  menu driven choices, ribbon choices, pod choices, keyboard commands, 
etc. 

And, of course, they should not rearrange the location of various commands 
unless those commands were truly in odd locations previously.  Marketing 
decisions often seem to override functionality in favor of glitz and glitter.

Ed

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From: Keith Soltys [mailto:keith.sol...@tmx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 10:11 AM
To: De Rosier, Edward
Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

 I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to 
 fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy.  Oh well ...

Ha! Just wait until they add the ribbon interface like they just did in 
RoboHelp 2015. `

Regards
Keith

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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:33 PM
To: Craig Ede
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

Hi Craig,

Thanks for the information.  It is interesting that CMYK and RGB choices make a 
difference in the internal handling of graphics by FM.

The failing keyboard commands have been going on for several months now, and I 
make sure the caps lock key is not on.  I have been learning workarounds, even 
going so far as to saving a file with special characters (e.g., non-breaking 
hyphen) so that I can copy and paste.  I have even used the search and replace 
to use the \+ to replace regular hyphens.

The problem is seriously annoying.  FM was extremely stable before Adobe added 
the new interface with pods.
 I don't mind the new interface, but I would prefer stable and predictable to 
fancy ... especially unnecessary fancy.  Oh well ...

Thanks for your input,

Ed

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RE: FM12 Transparent Graphics PLUS New Question

2015-06-02 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hello,

Thanks to all who made suggestions for the use of transparent graphics.  Even 
when using a clipping path in an EPS file, we had trouble with the thin line 
around the image border.  We eventually decided to add the product image and 
the background logo as a single combined image ... because we can control all 
of the settings and variations within Adobe Illustrator.  This does complicate 
our process just a little bit, but we get what we want.

NEW QUESTION:

Still FM12 on Win7 PC

Why do keyboard commands sometimes get ignored?  I like keyboard cmds such as 
[Esc] [m] [p] to minimize an anchored frame around a graphic image.  When the 
PC is freshly booted and FrameMaker is freshly launched, this usually works.  
At times, however, keyboard commands are ignored.  This also is true for 
commands such as [Esc] [Spacebar] [n or m] for en and em spaces, and [Esc] [-] 
[h] for non-breaking hyphens.  It takes a reboot of FM software AND the Windows 
OS to get this feature to work ... but only sometimes ... at times I just need 
to wait a few days8-(ARGHHH !

In contrast, commands such as  [Ctrl]+[q]  [Shift]+[p]  provide an en dash even 
when the Escape commands fail.

Your advice is always appreciated.  I have been on the digest since FM 4 and 
enjoy the information as well as the banter.

Thanks,

Ed DeRosier

-Original Message-
From: De Rosier, Edward 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:42 AM
Subject: FM12 Transparent Graphics

Hello Framers,

We are using FM 12 (TCS 5) on Windows 7 PCs.

When we add a product image to the body page, the white background of the 
product image masks a portion of the background image.   We have tried images 
(referenced from a common image folder) of the following types:  Adobe 
Illustrator (*.ai), Adobe Photoshop (*.psd), *.png, and *.eps.

Even though we have carefully created knockedout images with transparent 
backgrounds, we have not been able to avoid the masking effect.

Thank you,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company, Morgan Hill, California, USA

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FM12 Transparent Graphics

2015-05-29 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hello Framers,

We are using FM 12 (TCS 5) on Windows 7 PCs.

The company has a new document style that includes a background image, which is 
a bit like having a watermark on the cover page.  In modifying the design of 
our templates, we have placed the background image on the master page.

When we add a product image to the body page, the white background of the 
product image masks a portion of the background image.   We have tried images 
(referenced from a common image folder) of the following types:  Adobe 
Illustrator (*.ai), Adobe Photoshop (*.psd), *.png, and *.eps.

Even though we have carefully created knockedout images with transparent 
backgrounds, we have not been able to avoid the masking effect.

We would appreciate any ideas.

Thank you,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company, Morgan Hill, California, USA

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Re: Long change bars are created when a table is in between 2

2015-01-20 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Simon,

You could also use the Character Designer to apply change bars so that the 
table marker will not be included.

You can use a mouse in the Character Designer dialog box, or use the keyboard.
The key sequence for those change bars is Format  Style  Change Bar, which 
can by keyed on a Windows PC by:

[Alt][o] [y] [c]

This does not mean the behavior was not a bug, but it is a relatively easy 
workaround.

As an aside, I sometimes want to have a change bar that includes an 
intermediate table.  FM 9 does not do this the way your version behaves.  If I 
highlight a long sequence of paragraphs, and use the Paragraph Designer to 
apply a change bar, the tables are skipped.  If I use the Character Designer to 
apply the change bar, then the tables are included.

Best Wishes,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company
Morgan Hill, California
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Seeking FrameMaker 9.0 Licensed Software

2014-02-08 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hello Framers,

My company is adding a writer to our staff, and we need an additional software 
license for FrameMaker 9.0.

Our current licenses were obtained via AdobeTechCommSuite2.

If you have a licensed copy of FrameMaker 9.0 available for sale, please 
contact me (off list is good).

Thank you,

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Anritsu Company
Morgan Hill CA

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RE: Disappearing Palette Items

2013-08-29 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Karen,

On this framers list, probably within the last two years, someone offered a 
suggestion about those customized workspaces.

Get the FM interface (all pods, etc.) organized the way you like them, then 
save the workspace with a name that you like.

TIP (this was the suggestion from the experienced framer):
   Then resave the workspace with another name, as a backup.  I name mine ED_1 
(for example), and then ED_1_BU.

The purpose of the backup is that the workspace can get corrupted.  Rather than 
start over, you can then just set the backup workspace, and from there, you can 
recreate the original (in order to maintain an original plus a backup).

Others have already offered suggestions about how you get the desired workspace 
initially, and I have too little experience to add to their great comments.

Best wishes,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company

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Disappearing Palette Items

2013-08-29 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Karen,

On this framers list, probably within the last two years, someone offered a 
suggestion about those customized workspaces.

Get the FM interface (all pods, etc.) organized the way you like them, then 
save the workspace with a name that you like.

TIP (this was the suggestion from the experienced framer):
   Then resave the workspace with another name, as a backup.  I name mine ED_1 
(for example), and then ED_1_BU.

The purpose of the backup is that the workspace can get corrupted.  Rather than 
start over, you can then just set the backup workspace, and from there, you can 
recreate the original (in order to maintain an original plus a backup).

Others have already offered suggestions about how you get the desired workspace 
initially, and I have too little experience to add to their great comments.

Best wishes,

Ed DeRosier
Technical Writer
Anritsu Company



Re: Line numbering tables in FM11?

2013-02-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Tori,

You said:
  Sooo... just popped $400 to upgrade to FM11, solely for the line 
  numbering.  However,  we're working on a set of engineering specs that 
  contains many huge tables, and Frame isn't numbering any lines in the 
  tables.
  
  Is this just the way it works?  Or am I missing some setting that would 
  add line numbers corresponding to text in tables? This is a killer issue 
  for this project, and it Frame can't do it we'll have to resort back to 
  our previous method of putting hard-coded line numbers on the master 
  pages -- which client doesn't like because then every page has the same 
  numbers.

Your description of line numbering in tables did not describe how you are using 
those numbers.  My writing group uses a paragraph tag set that we named 
CellNumbered1 and CellNumbered.  
We are on FrameMaker-9 with Windows-7.

The critical part of building of the Autonumber Format is as follows:

C:n=1.\t
and
C:n+.\t

I tested these just now with three successive tables.  I added CellNumbered1 to 
the top cell of a column and then added 
CellNumbered to several cells below in the same column and in multiple columns 
within a table.

I continued the CellNumbered tag in the following table.

In the third table, I returned to the use of CellNumbered1 to the top cell of a 
column and CellNumbered to several cells below.

The numbering of the paragraphs was as expected whether the additional 
paragraphs were within a cell or in separate cells.  The numbering continued 
across tables and was restarted as expected.

If your requirements are different, perhaps you could give more details of your 
needs.

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company
Morgan Hill, California


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RE: Line numbering tables in FM11?

2013-02-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Tori,

After sending my note, and before deleting the test file, I also placed the 
CellNumbered paragraph tag in place of body text paragraphs between tables.  
The numbering and renumbering were consistent inside and outside the tables.

This might be applied to Headings and other paragraph types.  I see no problem 
with applying the Autonumber Format to other paragraph tags, including all 
paragraph tags within your documents.

This was just a wild suggestion that I meant to stimulate ideas.  It works in 
FrameMaker-9.

Ed DeRosier

-Original Message-
From: Tori Muir [mailto:tm...@spot-on-creative.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:55 PM
To: De Rosier, Edward
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Line numbering tables in FM11?

Client wants *every* line across the whole book to be numbered 
contiguously. Having the cell numbers out of step with the others would 
not be acceptable.

Tori Muir
tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674
www.spot-on-creative.com


On 2/25/13 12:09 PM, De Rosier, Edward wrote:
 Hi Tori,

 You said:
   Sooo... just popped $400 to upgrade to FM11, solely for the line
   numbering.  However,  we're working on a set of engineering specs that
   contains many huge tables, and Frame isn't numbering any lines in the
   tables.

   Is this just the way it works?  Or am I missing some setting that would
   add line numbers corresponding to text in tables? This is a killer issue
   for this project, and it Frame can't do it we'll have to resort back to
   our previous method of putting hard-coded line numbers on the master
   pages -- which client doesn't like because then every page has the same
   numbers.
 Your description of line numbering in tables did not describe how you are 
 using those numbers.  My writing group uses a paragraph tag set that we named 
 CellNumbered1 and CellNumbered.
 We are on FrameMaker-9 with Windows-7.

 The critical part of building of the Autonumber Format is as follows:

 C:n=1.\t
 and
 C:n+.\t

 I tested these just now with three successive tables.  I added CellNumbered1 
 to the top cell of a column and then added
 CellNumbered to several cells below in the same column and in multiple 
 columns within a table.

 I continued the CellNumbered tag in the following table.

 In the third table, I returned to the use of CellNumbered1 to the top cell of 
 a column and CellNumbered to several cells below.

 The numbering of the paragraphs was as expected whether the additional 
 paragraphs were within a cell or in separate cells.  The numbering continued 
 across tables and was restarted as expected.

 If your requirements are different, perhaps you could give more details of 
 your needs.

 Ed DeRosier
 Senior Technical Writer
 Anritsu Company
 Morgan Hill, California



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RE: Line numbering tables in FM11?

2013-02-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Correct, Richard.
Tori, perhaps you could make the entire file a large table with one-line rows.  
The left column could be just large enough to hold numbers, and the right 
column could span the remaining text frame width.  You would need to restart 
each line in a new row.

Or you could use my previous idea and end each line (regardless of paragraph 
tag) with a return (no wrapping allowed).

Or perhaps create a side head with a 1-column table for the line numbering.

These are all clumsy solutions.  Sorry, I've never been required to number each 
line.

Ed DeRosier

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1:20 PM
To: tm...@spot-on-creative.com; De Rosier, Edward
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Line numbering tables in FM11?

Tori Muir wrote:
 
 Ummm... If I have a paragraph that wraps to 8 lines, I get how it would
 number the top line, but how does it number the other 7?

It doesn't. Ed's proposal numbers paragraphs, not lines. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Line numbering tables in FM11?

2013-02-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Tori,

You said:
>  Sooo... just popped $400 to upgrade to FM11, solely for the line 
>  numbering.  However,  we're working on a set of engineering specs that 
>  contains many huge tables, and Frame isn't numbering any lines in the 
>  tables.
>  
>  Is this just the way it works?  Or am I missing some setting that would 
>  add line numbers corresponding to text in tables? This is a killer issue 
>  for this project, and it Frame can't do it we'll have to resort back to 
>  our previous method of putting hard-coded line numbers on the master 
>  pages -- which client doesn't like because then every page has the same 
>  numbers.

Your description of line numbering in tables did not describe how you are using 
those numbers.  My writing group uses a paragraph tag set that we named 
CellNumbered1 and CellNumbered.  
We are on FrameMaker-9 with Windows-7.

The critical part of building of the Autonumber Format is as follows:


Line numbering tables in FM11?

2013-02-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Tori,

After sending my note, and before deleting the test file, I also placed the 
CellNumbered paragraph tag in place of body text paragraphs between tables.  
The numbering and renumbering were consistent inside and outside the tables.

This might be applied to Headings and other paragraph types.  I see no problem 
with applying the Autonumber Format to other paragraph tags, including all 
paragraph tags within your documents.

This was just a wild suggestion that I meant to stimulate ideas.  It works in 
FrameMaker-9.

Ed DeRosier

-Original Message-
From: Tori Muir [mailto:tm...@spot-on-creative.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:55 PM
To: De Rosier, Edward
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Line numbering tables in FM11?

Client wants *every* line across the whole book to be numbered 
contiguously. Having the cell numbers out of step with the others would 
not be acceptable.

Tori Muir
tmuir at spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674
www.spot-on-creative.com


On 2/25/13 12:09 PM, De Rosier, Edward wrote:
> Hi Tori,
>
> You said:
>>   Sooo... just popped $400 to upgrade to FM11, solely for the line
>>   numbering.  However,  we're working on a set of engineering specs that
>>   contains many huge tables, and Frame isn't numbering any lines in the
>>   tables.
>>
>>   Is this just the way it works?  Or am I missing some setting that would
>>   add line numbers corresponding to text in tables? This is a killer issue
>>   for this project, and it Frame can't do it we'll have to resort back to
>>   our previous method of putting hard-coded line numbers on the master
>>   pages -- which client doesn't like because then every page has the same
>>   numbers.
> Your description of line numbering in tables did not describe how you are 
> using those numbers.  My writing group uses a paragraph tag set that we named 
> CellNumbered1 and CellNumbered.
> We are on FrameMaker-9 with Windows-7.
>
> The critical part of building of the Autonumber Format is as follows:
>
> C:

Line numbering tables in FM11?

2013-02-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Correct, Richard.
Tori, perhaps you could make the entire file a large table with one-line rows.  
The left column could be just large enough to hold numbers, and the right 
column could span the remaining text frame width.  You would need to restart 
each line in a new row.

Or you could use my previous idea and end each line (regardless of paragraph 
tag) with a return (no wrapping allowed).

Or perhaps create a side head with a 1-column table for the line numbering.

These are all clumsy solutions.  Sorry, I've never been required to number each 
line.

Ed DeRosier

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1:20 PM
To: tmuir at spot-on-creative.com; De Rosier, Edward
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Line numbering tables in FM11?

Tori Muir wrote:

> Ummm... If I have a paragraph that wraps to 8 lines, I get how it would
> number the top line, but how does it number the other 7?

It doesn't. Ed's proposal numbers paragraphs, not lines. 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--









Re: Click-and-drag or just drag -- ?

2012-10-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
from framers Digest, Vol 84, Issue 23

... was  message: 4
 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:28:47 -0700
 From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Click-and-drag or just drag -- ?

 Microsoft Manual of Style says drag.

IMHO, style manuals are important and valuable, but technical writers must be 
able to choose to use words and syntax that may violate certain rules in 
order to be clear and concise, as judged by the writer when considering the 
audience.

If Click and Drag will result in less questioning by the reading audience, 
then that is the better choice.

If management refuses to allow such variations, then the job is probably not 
paying well enough for the writer's professional judgment.

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company, Microwave Measurement Division
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"Click-and-drag" or just "drag" -- ?

2012-10-25 Thread De Rosier, Edward
from framers Digest, Vol 84, Issue 23

... was  message: 4
> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:28:47 -0700
> From: Robert Lauriston 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: "Click-and-drag" or just "drag" -- ?

> Microsoft Manual of Style says drag.

IMHO, style manuals are important and valuable, but technical writers must be 
able to "choose" to use words and syntax that may violate certain rules in 
order to be clear and concise, as judged by the writer when considering the 
audience.

If "Click and Drag" will result in less questioning by the reading audience, 
then that is the better choice.

If "management" refuses to allow such variations, then the job is probably not 
paying well enough for the writer's professional judgment.

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company, Microwave Measurement Division


Job Opportunity - Morgan Hill California USA

2012-08-24 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Framers,

Anritsu Company has a full-time, on-site writer position available:

http://www.anritsu.com/en-us/about-anritsu/employment/current-vacancies/job000893.aspx

This company designs and builds test and measurement instruments for RF and 
Microwave (radio frequency and microwave frequency).

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company
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Job Opportunity - Morgan Hill California USA

2012-08-23 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Framers,

Anritsu Company has a full-time, on-site writer position available:

http://www.anritsu.com/en-us/about-anritsu/employment/current-vacancies/job000893.aspx

This company designs and builds test and measurement instruments for RF and 
Microwave (radio frequency and microwave frequency).

Ed DeRosier
Senior Technical Writer
Anritsu Company


RE: Text reflows when converting to PDF

2012-07-02 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Karen,

My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then distills to 
PDF.

When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer 
Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button.  In the Adobe 
PDF Document Properties dialog box, under the Adobe PDF Settings tab, a 
check box is available and states:  
Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts.

I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro.  Each time I start FrameMaker for 
the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript.  
For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer remember my choice. 
 In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to 
uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer.

I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked.  This 
is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work group.

This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change of fonts 
that may affect your text flow and word wrapping.  That may not be your 
problem, but it is worth checking.

Best Regards,

Ed DeRosier
MMD Technical Publications
Anritsu Company
Morgan Hill, California
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Text reflows when converting to PDF

2012-07-02 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Karen,

My writing group also prints from FrameMaker to PostScript and then distills to 
PDF.

When you print from FrameMaker using the Adobe PDF printer, click the printer 
Setup button and then the Adobe PDF (printer) Properties button.  In the "Adobe 
PDF Document Properties" dialog box, under the "Adobe PDF Settings" tab, a 
check box is available and states:  
Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts.

I am using FrameMaker 9 and Acrobat 9 Pro.  Each time I start FrameMaker for 
the day, I must uncheck that box the first time that I print to PostScript.  
For the rest of the day, FrameMaker and Adobe PDF printer "remember" my choice. 
 In other applications (printing from Windows Outlook, for example), I need to 
uncheck that box every time I print with Adobe PDF printer.

I do not know of any way to set the default to have that box unchecked.  This 
is an annoyance in the current writing software within my work group.

This is all speculation that your print sequence may include a change of fonts 
that may affect your text flow and word wrapping.  That may not be your 
problem, but it is worth checking.

Best Regards,

Ed DeRosier
MMD Technical Publications
Anritsu Company
Morgan Hill, California


Re: Integrating table footnotes into chapter flow

2012-05-30 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Alan,

I'm coming into this discussion thread late (been on vacation).  Ignore my 
comments if I missed a critical step  8-/

All of the numbering and cross-ref steps seem OK ... whatever works for you.  
But why not use Conditional text for the temporary footnotes for author use?

Conditional text name and color could be set as desired, and then turned off 
before publication.  I make this suggestion because a previous employer used 
white text for a while, but got stung badly during a change in formatting for 
publication to HTML.  The documents went to customers before anyone discovered 
that the white text was published in black and the font size was the same as 
surrounding text.  OOoops  the notes were for in-house use only.

Just a thought ...

Ed DeRosier
Anritsu Company

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Integrating table footnotes into chapter flow

2012-05-30 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Alan,

I'm coming into this discussion thread late (been on vacation).  Ignore my 
comments if I missed a critical step  8-/

All of the numbering and cross-ref steps seem OK ... whatever works for you.  
But why not use Conditional text for the temporary footnotes for author use?

Conditional text name and color could be set as desired, and then turned off 
before publication.  I make this suggestion because a previous employer used 
white text for a while, but got stung badly during a change in formatting for 
publication to HTML.  The documents went to customers before anyone discovered 
that the white text was published in black and the font size was the same as 
surrounding text.  OOoops  the notes were for in-house use only.

Just a thought ...

Ed DeRosier
Anritsu Company



RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

2011-06-13 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Ragnar,

The solution from Jim is a good one.

Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font.  
The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker 9 has a 
built‑in Character Palette.

With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using:

File  ==  Utilities  ==  Character Palette...

The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the 
list of those available on your computer.  You can select more than one 
character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you 
use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes.

Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the 
Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts).  
  On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not.  I do not 
know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I 
just accept those that work with gratitude8-)

Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire.  And you can also 
select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your 
Character Catalog).

Best of luck,

Ed DeRosier 


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM
To: Ragnar Hanås; De Rosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds 
more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then 
apply it. 

-Original Message-
From: Ragnar Hanås [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts 
in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work 
fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than 
outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are 
Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists.
Are there specific problems with certain fonts?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: DeRosier, Edward; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in 
docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up 
because of FM 9's translation of certain characters into different characters 
and the ensuing loss of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols 
(Wingdings, in my case).

I consulted the following two resources:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont-
want-a-plain-round-bullet.html
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html

These should get you on the path. 

Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my 
bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that 
needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template 
and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that 
wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates 
folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book.

I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a 
hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that.

That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well.

Good luck!
Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Hi Framers,

I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2).

The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for 
Greater Than or Equal To (GTE).
The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to Symbol 
font.

[Ctrl][q] [3]  =  GTE  (this produces a small box) or
[Alt][0179]=  GTE  (this works)

[Ctrl][q] [#]  =  LTE  (this works)
or
[Alt][0163]=  LTE  (this works)


Problem:
  [Ctrl][q] [3]  ==  S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font
  [Alt][0179]==  superscript 3, and also GTE  in Symbol font

In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol 
font.
Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using 
[Ctrl][q] [3].
While the ASCII character work-around is available, I am concerned

FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

2011-06-13 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Ragnar,

The solution from Jim is a good one.

Also, my current work group uses Century Schoolbook as our standard Body font.  
The symbols are still as I originally described, but FrameMaker?9 has a 
built?in Character Palette.

With your cursor in the desired location, open the palette by using:

File  ==>  Utilities  ==>  Character Palette...

The top list box in the palette displays the font, and you can select from the 
list of those available on your computer.  You can select more than one 
character from the palette and can type in between those characters, but if you 
use the mouse to move your cursor, the palette closes.

Century Schoolbook includes the Less-Than-or-Equal and the 
Greater-Than-or-Equal as characters within the font family (not symbol fonts).  
  On my system, some of the palette characters work, and some do not.  I do not 
know how the FrameMaker interface is intended to handle these symbols, so I 
just accept those that work with gratitude8-)

Your standards fonts my have the characters you desire.  And you can also 
select from the Symbol font family (you will need to apply symbol from your 
Character Catalog).

Best of luck,

Ed DeRosier 


-Original Message-
From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 5:57 AM
To: Ragnar Han?s; De Rosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

FWIW, this is the approach I'm still using, almost six months later. Sounds 
more complicated than it is: Get a clean template with the right formats. Then 
apply it. 

-Original Message-
From: Ragnar Han?s [mailto:ragnar.ha...@betamed.se]
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 9:52 PM
To: Pinkham, Jim; 'DeRosier, Edward'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - Dixieland problems

I just opened my first documents from FM 7.2 in FM 9 and all my Dixieland fonts 
in bulleted lists are mixed up. Strangely, the Geographic Symbols seem to work 
fine in bulleted lists. There has to be a simpler solution to this than 
outlined below? Dixieland symbols are also mixed up in plain text, as are 
Symbol Prop so the problem does not only apply to the bulleted lists.
Are there specific problems with certain fonts?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Ragnar Hanas
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:39 PM
To: DeRosier, Edward; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Ed, I ran into something similar to this with my migration from FM 7 to FM 9 in 
docs I've been working on this week. All of my bulleted lists were messed up 
because of FM 9's "translation" of certain characters into different characters 
and the ensuing "loss" of the appropriate font to be applied to the symbols 
(Wingdings, in my case).

I consulted the following two resources:

http://iconlogic.blogs.com/weblog/2010/08/adobe-framemaker-9-but-i-dont-
want-a-plain-round-bullet.html
http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/frame_tags.html

These should get you on the path. 

Long story short: I defined a font-specific character format for each of my 
bullet symbols and applied it to each of the five different bullet styles that 
needed it. I did this in a clean doc created from a virgin, minimalist template 
and further stripped everything out of the new doc that I possibly could that 
wasn't related to the formats I desired. Then I stored this in my templates 
folder and imported this stripped-down, format-specific template into my book.

I have two variables, one that uses the LTE symbol and another that use a 
hollow arrow symbol. I took a similar approach with that.

That's as much detail as I can give you on this hectic day, but it worked well.

Good luck!
Jim

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of DeRosier, Edward
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 1:02 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker9 Character Set - GTE

Hi Framers,

I am haing a problem with the character set in FrameMaker 9 (TCS2).

The character set document lists the same keystrokes as in previous FM sets for 
Greater Than or Equal To (GTE).
The GTE character is created in standard font, and is then changed to "Symbol" 
font.

[Ctrl][q] [3]  =>  GTE  (this produces a small box) or
[Alt][0179]=>  GTE  (this works)

[Ctrl][q] [#]  =>  LTE  (this works)
or
[Alt][0163]=>  LTE  (this works)


Problem:
  [Ctrl][q] [3]  ==>  S with caron, but not GTE in Symbol font
  [Alt][0179]==>  superscript 3, and also GTE  in Symbol font

In my past experience, the S with a caron accent was changed to GTE in Symbol 
font.
Now, however, this produces a small box in Symbol font when created by using

RE: Non-breaking hyphen in Index entries

2011-05-24 Thread De Rosier, Edward
Hi Nancy,

You wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 15:24:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Non-breaking hyphen in Index entries

I am being driven mad by a teensy technical question that I KNOW
I have solved in the past.
I have document with chapter-page numbering, and an index entry
that is a tad long, so it breaks like this:
apple pie, baking at high altitudes, 4-
6

When I go to the correct Reference page, I find the format set
up as you would expect:

$chapnum-$pagenum

I have tried replacing the hyphen with Esc hyphen h and with \+
Neither works!
What am I missing? I know I have done this before.
Many thanks. 

Our index reference page also uses $chapnum-$pagenum with a
non-breaking hyphen, and it does not break within the page number.

Check that you saved the index file after you updated the reference page
and before you regenerated the index.

This would be the standard procedure, but I have made such errors myself
8-).   If you do not save the index file before you regenerate, the
changes will not be carried into later generations of the index.

Good luck,

Ed DeRosier
Anritsu Technical Publications
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