RE: One of my FM11 files has become Read-only (John Posada)

[Gay Alson]

I accidentally made a file view-only by misusing some shortcut but Thomas 
Michanek had a handy tip that saved the day. Caveat: it wasn't FM 11, but more 
like 7 -- I don't know if that would make a difference...

Anyway, here's what he suggested that worked for me:

1.  Press and release Esc
2.  Press and release Shift+f
3.  Press and release lower-case l
4.  Press and release lower-case k



HTH,
~~Gay

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Hi, guys...one of the files inmy book (it has about 400 files) has become read 
only. I don't know how it happened.

When I open the file and try to select content, the frame gets selected. As 
far as I know, it kis (or was) Flow A.

Anyone know how to change it back to a write state?


John Posada


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One of my FM11 files has become Read-only (John Posada)

[Gay Alson]

I accidentally made a file "view-only" by misusing some shortcut but Thomas 
Michanek had a handy tip that saved the day. Caveat: it wasn't FM 11, but more 
like 7 -- I don't know if that would make a difference...

Anyway, here's what he suggested that worked for me:

1.  Press and release Esc
2.  Press and release Shift+f
3.  Press and release lower-case l
4.  Press and release lower-case k



HTH,
~~Gay

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>Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:11:58 -0400
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>Hi, guys...one of the files inmy book (it has about 400 files) has become read 
>only. I don't know how it happened.
>
>When I open the file and try to select content, the frame gets selected. As 
>far as I know, it kis (or was) Flow A.
>
>Anyone know how to change it back to a write state?
>
>
>John Posada


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Modifying FM's default R/L master pages

[Gay Alson]

Hello, Framers,
FrameMaker imposes Right/Left master pages that can’t be deleted, although they 
can be modified—or so I thought.
In one template, I changed the orientation of the default R/L master pages from 
Portrait to Landscape. However, after PDFing a book consisting of several 
chapters, some using the modified Right/Left and others using the default 
(portrait) Right/Left master pages, the result is all Portrait pages.
To me this indicates that the PDFing procedure applied the same master pages to 
all pages. Is there a way around this?
(Previously I used custom Landscape Right and Left pages but that caused other 
problems, which I hoped to avoid by just using default R  L master pages that 
had been modified. )
Any wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
~~Gay

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RE: Modifying FM's default R/L master pages

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As it turns out, a MIF-wash of the chapter containing the R/L master pages that 
were modified to landscape orientation **SEEMS** to solve the problem...

(That is, unless it turns out to be a procedure required sporadically for 
future book updates...in which case, I'll repost  :))


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[Gay Alson]

As it turns out, a MIF-wash of the chapter containing the R/L master pages that 
were modified to landscape orientation **SEEMS** to solve the problem...

(That is, unless it turns out to be a procedure required sporadically for 
future book updates...in which case, I'll repost  :))


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Modifying FM's default R/L master pages

[Gay Alson]

Hello, Framers,
FrameMaker imposes Right/Left master pages that can?t be deleted, although they 
can be modified?or so I thought.
In one template, I changed the orientation of the default R/L master pages from 
Portrait to Landscape. However, after PDFing a book consisting of several 
chapters, some using the modified Right/Left and others using the default 
(portrait) Right/Left master pages, the result is all Portrait pages.
To me this indicates that the PDFing procedure applied the same master pages to 
all pages. Is there a way around this?
(Previously I used custom Landscape Right and Left pages but that caused other 
problems, which I hoped to avoid by just using default R & L master pages that 
had been modified. )
Any wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
~~Gay

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Senior Technical Writer
www.epicor.com<http://www.epicor.com/>
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Landscape master pages don't work

[Gay Alson]

Hello again, Framers,

I have three landscape master pages: LandscapeHeading1 (the first page), 
LandscapeRight, and LandscapeLeft.

MasterPageMaps on the Reference page defines paragraph tag LandscapeTable to 
use Landscape Right and Landscape Left master pages, with a Range Indicator of 
Until changed. This is **supposed** to cause all pages containing that 
paragraph tag to use LandscapeRight and Landscape Left master pages, until a 
different paragraph tag is encountered. I had the occasional glitch where the 
last page would revert to portrait but if I put an empty LandscapeTable tag on 
it, it seemed to be okay.

I'm not sure why but today everything stopped working. I can't retain landscape 
orientation when I apply master pages--the first one is okay but all the ones 
after that are portrait, no matter what I've tried.  I'm out of ideas.  Has 
anyone had experience with this issue and could share some wisdom?

Thanks for any suggestions,
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[Gay Alson]

Hello again, Framers,

I have three landscape master pages: LandscapeHeading1 (the first page), 
LandscapeRight, and LandscapeLeft.

MasterPageMaps on the Reference page defines paragraph tag "LandscapeTable" to 
use Landscape Right and Landscape Left master pages, with a Range Indicator of 
"Until changed". This is **supposed** to cause all pages containing that 
paragraph tag to use LandscapeRight and Landscape Left master pages, until a 
different paragraph tag is encountered. I had the occasional glitch where the 
last page would revert to portrait but if I put an empty LandscapeTable tag on 
it, it seemed to be okay.

I'm not sure why but today everything stopped working. I can't retain landscape 
orientation when I apply master pages--the first one is okay but all the ones 
after that are portrait, no matter what I've tried.  I'm out of ideas.  Has 
anyone had experience with this issue and could share some wisdom?

Thanks for any suggestions,
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Re: Usage question - subjunctive mood?

[Gay Alson]

I have to side with Stuart and the others who still lean toward established 
grammar rules.

Yes, the English language is a dynamic and constantly changing beast. Yes, 
communication is our main focus. However, although I may understand someone who 
asks for my agreement by querying A-ight?, I am not about to use that 
idiomatic form in a technical manual.

And personally, I still cringe every time I read something like This 
enhancement allows the user to quickly install their new software.

Okay, now I'll go quietly back to the 60s...

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[Gay Alson]

I have to side with Stuart and the others who still lean toward established 
grammar rules.

Yes, the English language is a dynamic and constantly changing beast. Yes, 
communication is our main focus. However, although I may understand someone who 
asks for my agreement by querying "A-ight?", I am not about to use that 
idiomatic form in a technical manual.

And personally, I still cringe every time I read something like "This 
enhancement allows the user to quickly install their new software."

Okay, now I'll go quietly back to the 60s...

~~Gay


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Manually resizing table cell width

[Gay Alson]

Hi again, Framers--

To manually resize cell widths, I usually select the table cell (column
or entire row) and click the little black resizing node (thanks, Curtis)
to drag it and resize the cell wider or narrower.

For whatever reason, I can no longer do this. I'm on FM 11, have been
for a few months now, and I'm sure this is something new or else I'd
have noticed this before now.

Also, when I select a table cell and right-click, the selection
highlighting disappears and the context menu no longer offers table
formatting commands.

What could I have done to bollux up this functionality? More important,
how can I fix it?

TIA,
~~Gay


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RE: Manually resizing table cell width

[Gay Alson]

In checking that I'm fully patched, I also checked for the problem again
and discovered the functionality has been restored. Closing and
relaunching Frame hadn't worked, but rebooting Windows when I left last
night apparently put things back to normal. Next time I'll remember to
do that basic old step first and contact the list second.  :(

 

Thanks Craig et al,

~~Gay

 

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Fax: (514) 426-0824
Email: gal...@epicor.com
 

 

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:55 AM
To: Gay Alson; framers
Subject: RE: Manually resizing table cell width

 

Gay,
 
I'm also working with FM11 and both these functions are working fine. 
 
Firstly, I would make sure you are updated to the latest revision (FM
11.01.382).
Secondly, I would try setting your interface to Structured FrameMaker
just to see if it works in that environment.  (As we have learned, some
things have been known to work there that do not work in the Standard
interface.)
 
Let us know what finally solves this for you.
 
Thanks.
 
Craig

 Subject: Manually resizing table cell width
 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:59:01 -0400
 From: gal...@epicor.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Hi again, Framers--
 
 To manually resize cell widths, I usually select the table cell
(column
 or entire row) and click the little black resizing node (thanks,
Curtis)
 to drag it and resize the cell wider or narrower.
 
 For whatever reason, I can no longer do this. I'm on FM 11, have been
 for a few months now, and I'm sure this is something new or else I'd
 have noticed this before now.
 
 Also, when I select a table cell and right-click, the selection
 highlighting disappears and the context menu no longer offers table
 formatting commands.
 
 What could I have done to bollux up this functionality? More
important,
 how can I fix it?
 
 TIA,
 ~~Gay
 

 

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Manually resizing table cell width

[Gay Alson]

In checking that I'm fully patched, I also checked for the problem again
and discovered the functionality has been restored. Closing and
relaunching Frame hadn't worked, but rebooting Windows when I left last
night apparently put things back to normal. Next time I'll remember to
do that basic old step first and contact the list second.  :(



Thanks Craig et al,

~~Gay



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Fax: (514) 426-0824
Email: galson at epicor.com




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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 8:55 AM
To: Gay Alson; framers
Subject: RE: Manually resizing table cell width



Gay,

I'm also working with FM11 and both these functions are working fine. 

Firstly, I would make sure you are updated to the latest revision (FM
11.01.382).
Secondly, I would try setting your interface to Structured FrameMaker
just to see if it works in that environment.  (As we have learned, some
things have been known to work there that do not work in the Standard
interface.)

Let us know what finally solves this for you.

Thanks.

Craig

> Subject: Manually resizing table cell width
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:59:01 -0400
> From: GALSON at epicor.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Hi again, Framers--
> 
> To manually resize cell widths, I usually select the table cell
(column
> or entire row) and click the little black resizing node (thanks,
Curtis)
> to drag it and resize the cell wider or narrower.
> 
> For whatever reason, I can no longer do this. I'm on FM 11, have been
> for a few months now, and I'm sure this is something new or else I'd
> have noticed this before now.
> 
> Also, when I select a table cell and right-click, the selection
> highlighting disappears and the context menu no longer offers table
> formatting commands.
> 
> What could I have done to bollux up this functionality? More
important,
> how can I fix it?
> 
> TIA,
> ~~Gay
> 



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Manually resizing table cell width

[Gay Alson]

Hi again, Framers--

To manually resize cell widths, I usually select the table cell (column
or entire row) and click the little black resizing node (thanks, Curtis)
to drag it and resize the cell wider or narrower.

For whatever reason, I can no longer do this. I'm on FM 11, have been
for a few months now, and I'm sure this is something new or else I'd
have noticed this before now.

Also, when I select a table cell and right-click, the selection
highlighting disappears and the context menu no longer offers table
formatting commands.

What could I have done to bollux up this functionality? More important,
how can I fix it?

TIA,
~~Gay


Gay Alson
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www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com


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Subject: FrameMaker 11.1 Update: some notes

[Gay Alson]

Hi Rob,
Sorry for your problems with the upgrade--I haven't experienced those,
because we're happy enough to just Save As PDF for the majority of our
books. (I haven't printed to .ps since Adobe fixed the PDF issue a
couple years back...)
I'm writing again just to emphasize that my own problem wasn't really an
upgrade failure, just a UBD problem (User Brain Dead). I've gotten used
to double-clicking in a WinZip window to open files so I never save
locally anymore, and just didn't snap duh that I should do so for an
executable...
Again, though, Adobe deserves some thanks, both to Kapil Verma, as you
mentioned, and also to Vikram in TCS Support who was kind enough to
contact me and get me sorted out.
Hope you can solve your issues as quickly and easily!
Regards,
~~Gay
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rob Shell
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:16 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 11.1 Update: some notes

To Gay:
My sympathies on the upgrade failure.
The first problem that we were not notified automatically when using the
check for updates from FrameMaker itself.
If it was not for this list I would never have known about the update.
Thank you,  Kapil Verma. Having said that I did successfully install the
update. 
The new wrinkle in Winodows 7 was that two Adobe services have to be
disabled or suspended.
RS03 Middle tier service
and
RS03 Server service
The second thing I did was to disable my Norton antivirus for one hour.
Everything else was shut down.
I then installed the update with no problem.

However, the update does not fix all the big problems with FM11 book
functions.
Yes it does print to ps.
However, over 1,000 pages print to ps was as unstable as before the
update.

FrameMaker 11 is a huge step forward in terms of integration with other
TCS4, but FrameMaker 11.1must be able to perform its core book
functions.
Every hardcopy publisher I know must have perfect book print functions.
I would also like to make a distinction between crashes, when FM falls
over and gives a message and the more dangerous hang where one saves
the book and all the files and the blue circles keeps on turning without
saving.
Our attempts to have a real progress bar have come to naught. So FM11
does not print big books to ps and hangs while saving.
Anyone know where are the sample scripts or instructions not in the help
file for sure.
As ever
Unhappy camper
Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9.1 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd
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Subject: FrameMaker 11.1 Update: some notes

[Gay Alson]

Hi Rob,
Sorry for your problems with the upgrade--I haven't experienced those,
because we're happy enough to just Save As PDF for the majority of our
books. (I haven't printed to .ps since Adobe fixed the PDF issue a
couple years back...)
I'm writing again just to emphasize that my own problem wasn't really an
upgrade failure, just a UBD problem (User Brain Dead). I've gotten used
to double-clicking in a WinZip window to open files so I never save
locally anymore, and just didn't snap  that I should do so for an
executable...
Again, though, Adobe deserves some thanks, both to Kapil Verma, as you
mentioned, and also to Vikram in TCS Support who was kind enough to
contact me and get me sorted out.
Hope you can solve your issues as quickly and easily!
Regards,
~~Gay
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rob Shell
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:16 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 11.1 Update: some notes

To Gay:
My sympathies on the upgrade failure.
The first problem that we were not notified automatically when using the
check for updates from FrameMaker itself.
If it was not for this list I would never have known about the update.
Thank you,  Kapil Verma. Having said that I did successfully install the
update. 
The new wrinkle in Winodows 7 was that two Adobe services have to be
disabled or suspended.
RS03 Middle tier service
and
RS03 Server service
The second thing I did was to disable my Norton antivirus for one hour.
Everything else was shut down.
I then installed the update with no problem.

However, the update does not fix all the big problems with FM11 book
functions.
Yes it does print to ps.
However, over 1,000 pages print to ps was as unstable as before the
update.

FrameMaker 11 is a huge step forward in terms of integration with other
TCS4, but FrameMaker 11.1must be able to perform its core book
functions.
Every hardcopy publisher I know must have perfect book print functions.
I would also like to make a distinction between "crashes", when FM falls
over and gives a message and the more dangerous "hang" where one saves
the book and all the files and the blue circles keeps on turning without
saving.
Our attempts to have a real progress bar have come to naught. So FM11
does not print big books to ps and hangs while saving.
Anyone know where are the sample scripts or instructions not in the help
file for sure.
As ever
Unhappy camper
Rob Shell
Windows Seven
FrameMaker 9.1 patched
4 GB RAM
3 TB hd
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(RESOLVED) RE: FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

[Gay Alson]

Just to update my question from yesterday:

I was contacted by Vikram from Adobe Customer support who had me verify
that I'd saved the .zip and extracted all files locally. (Turns out I'd
double-clicked the .exe from within my WinZip window.) When I followed
his suggestion, everything worked as it should.

Thank you, Adobe support--this kind of help is wonderful, and a huge
improvement over some of my previous experiences. I appreciate it
immensely!

~~Gay


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(RESOLVED) RE: FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

[Gay Alson]

Just to update my question from yesterday:

I was contacted by Vikram from Adobe Customer support who had me verify
that I'd saved the .zip and extracted all files locally. (Turns out I'd
double-clicked the .exe from within my WinZip window.) When I followed
his suggestion, everything worked as it should.

Thank you, Adobe support--this kind of help is wonderful, and a huge
improvement over some of my previous experiences. I appreciate it
immensely!

~~Gay


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RE: FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

[Gay Alson]

Hello Framers,

I just downloaded the patch but can't install. Is anything required
other than double-clicking AdobePatchInstaller.exe from the zipped
download? When I do, I get the usual Run prompts, after which I get an
Adobe Application Manager Update Failed window, telling me the Adobe
Application Manager may be damaged.  So I did as it said, downloaded and
installed a new of copy of Adobe Application Manager, rebooted and tried
again, same result. (The update failure window has a Customer support
link that was useless to me.)

Feelin' like a newbie this morning; any help much appreciated...  :(


Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: gal...@epicor.com

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kapil Verma
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:01 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

Dear All,

I am happy to announce that we released an update yesterday to fix the
Print to .PS issue that some of our users were facing with FrameMaker
11. Your system should notify you automatically about the availability
of this update. Alternatively, you can download and install the update
from http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5506

Hopefully, it helps.

Thanks,

Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker | FrameMaker Publishing Server
O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/category/framemaker
http://twitter.com/KapilVermaAdobehttp://twitter.com/#!/KapilVermaAdobe

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/


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FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

[Gay Alson]

Hello Framers,

I just downloaded the patch but can't install. Is anything required
other than double-clicking AdobePatchInstaller.exe from the zipped
download? When I do, I get the usual "Run" prompts, after which I get an
Adobe Application Manager "Update Failed" window, telling me the Adobe
Application Manager may be damaged.  So I did as it said, downloaded and
installed a new of copy of Adobe Application Manager, rebooted and tried
again, same result. (The update failure window has a "Customer support"
link that was useless to me.)

Feelin' like a newbie this morning; any help much appreciated...  :(


Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kapil Verma
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:01 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 11 update 11.0.1

Dear All,

I am happy to announce that we released an update yesterday to fix the
"Print to .PS" issue that some of our users were facing with FrameMaker
11. Your system should notify you automatically about the availability
of this update. Alternatively, you can download and install the update
from http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5506

Hopefully, it helps.

Thanks,

Kapil Verma
Sr. Product Manager - FrameMaker | FrameMaker Publishing Server
O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/category/framemaker
http://twitter.com/KapilVermaAdobe<http://twitter.com/#!/KapilVermaAdobe
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Reviews of FM 11

[Gay Alson]

OMG, Arnis, STOP!! I'm having way too much fun at work this afternoon
because of you!

Anyone who hasn't read Arnis' review, do yourself a favor and check it
out: 
http://www.front-runner.com/artandinfo.php?AID=97

And Scott, thanks much for your link to the various reviews of FM 11. I
had read some of them but you pointed us toward a few new ones. I must
say, I'm quite underwhelmed with what I've read about this major new
release but we'll probably have to upgrade anyway just to try to get
rid of the daily (sometimes hourly) crashes due to FM 9's inability to
handle conditional text...


Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
Email: gal...@epicor.com

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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:26:08 -0700
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Subject: FM11 reviews...
Message-ID: 50462ba0.7090...@leximation.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; Format=flowed

Hi...

Just in case you've missed it, here's a list of FM11 reviews ..


http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/08/consolidated-list-of-framemaker-
11-reviews.html

No .. Alan's review isn't on there .. yet.

Cheers,

...scott


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Reviews of FM 11

[Gay Alson]

OMG, Arnis, STOP!! I'm having way too much fun at work this afternoon
because of you!

Anyone who hasn't read Arnis' review, do yourself a favor and check it
out: 
http://www.front-runner.com/artandinfo.php?AID=97

And Scott, thanks much for your link to the various reviews of FM 11. I
had read some of them but you pointed us toward a few new ones. I must
say, I'm quite underwhelmed with what I've read about this "major new
release" but we'll probably have to upgrade anyway just to try to get
rid of the daily (sometimes hourly) crashes due to FM 9's inability to
handle conditional text...


Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
Email: galson at epicor.com

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 09:26:08 -0700
From: Scott Prentice 
To: 'Framers' 
Subject: FM11 reviews...
Message-ID: <50462BA0.7090300 at leximation.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

Hi...

Just in case you've missed it, here's a list of FM11 reviews ..


http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2012/08/consolidated-list-of-framemaker-
11-reviews.html

No .. Alan's review isn't on there .. yet.

Cheers,

...scott


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Directed arrows

[Gay Alson]

To avoid confusion with the greater than arrow, we use Wingdings
Alt+0216 for a stylized arrow in procs. For example, Click Start 
SomethingElse  SomethingElse.

I'm trying to define this as a Character style but all I can seem to
accomplish is the font family, not the decimal symbol character code
Alt+0216.

Whaddya wanna bet this is going to an embarrassingly obvious answer?
Please, someone: embarrass me!

TIA,

~~Gay

 

 

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Directed arrows

[Gay Alson]

To avoid confusion with the "greater than" arrow, we use Wingdings
Alt+0216 for a stylized arrow in procs. For example, "Click Start >
SomethingElse > SomethingElse."

I'm trying to define this as a Character style but all I can seem to
accomplish is the font family, not the decimal symbol character code
Alt+0216.

Whaddya wanna bet this is going to an embarrassingly obvious answer?
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RE: FM 11?!

[Gay Alson]

Thanks very much, Rick!

Okay, I will do as you suggest and check out the trial version. I should
be able to determine fairly quickly whether the conditional text is
still the horrendous problem it is in version 9.

Thx again,
~~Gay

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From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:20 PM
To: Gay Alson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 11?!

Hi Gay,

Performance and stability have been improved with FrameMaker 11, however
it is hard to know if your particular issues have been solved. I would
suggest that you download and install the trial version and run some of
your books or documents through it and see what happens. You can have
FrameMaker 11 installed side-by-side with other versions of FrameMaker.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
r...@frameexpert.com



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Subject: FM 11?!

Thanks to Craig Ede for letting us know about this -- has anyone
test-driven FM 11 yet? I'm curious to know if it handles conditional
text and text insets any better than 9 did. We skipped 10 entirely
because we heard it was still buggy -- is FM 11 worth the upgrade? I'm
so frustrated by the constant crashes caused by conditional text, I
could easily vote to return to MS You-Know-What.

Thanks for any advice,
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FM 11?!

[Gay Alson]

Thanks to Craig Ede for letting us know about this -- has anyone
test-driven FM 11 yet? I'm curious to know if it handles conditional
text and text insets any better than 9 did. We skipped 10 entirely
because we heard it was still buggy -- is FM 11 worth the upgrade? I'm
so frustrated by the constant crashes caused by conditional text, I
could easily vote to return to MS You-Know-What.

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[Gay Alson]

Thanks to Craig Ede for letting us know about this -- has anyone
test-driven FM 11 yet? I'm curious to know if it handles conditional
text and text insets any better than 9 did. We skipped 10 entirely
because we heard it was still buggy -- is FM 11 worth the upgrade? I'm
so frustrated by the constant crashes caused by conditional text, I
could easily vote to return to MS You-Know-What.

Thanks for any advice,
~~Gay Alson


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FM 11?!

[Gay Alson]

Thanks very much, Rick!

Okay, I will do as you suggest and check out the trial version. I should
be able to determine fairly quickly whether the conditional text is
still the horrendous problem it is in version 9.

Thx again,
~~Gay

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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:20 PM
To: Gay Alson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 11?!

Hi Gay,

Performance and stability have been improved with FrameMaker 11, however
it is hard to know if your particular issues have been solved. I would
suggest that you download and install the trial version and run some of
your books or documents through it and see what happens. You can have
FrameMaker 11 installed side-by-side with other versions of FrameMaker.
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Thank you very
much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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Thanks to Craig Ede for letting us know about this -- has anyone
test-driven FM 11 yet? I'm curious to know if it handles conditional
text and text insets any better than 9 did. We skipped 10 entirely
because we heard it was still buggy -- is FM 11 worth the upgrade? I'm
so frustrated by the constant crashes caused by conditional text, I
could easily vote to return to MS You-Know-What.

Thanks for any advice,
~~Gay Alson





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Frame 9 buggy - Frame 10 as bad? Frame 11 on horizon?

[Gay Alson]

Hello Framers,

I use conditional text a lot.  A LOT.  Frame 9 seems to crash on a
daily, sometimes hourly, basis. Others in my department haven't
experienced this behavior, but don't use conditional text like I do. The
.recover files drive me crazy because I always feel I should compare
them to the source .fm file, but even FM warns against using .recover
files. And of all the times I laboriously made comparisons, I found
exactly once when the source doc was missing something in the .recover
file.

Anyway, I'm not really writing to vent, more to ask if Frame 10 is any
better when it comes to conditional text - my brief research leads me to
believe 10 fixes a lot of the problems in 9 but introduces new ones. So
this may be a case of the known devil... 

There's a possibility we can upgrade soon, but now I'm wondering if we
should wait another year (?) till FM 11.  Frankly, I lobbied so long and
hard to make the move from Word to FM (7.2) but ever since upgrading to
9, I've regretted it.

Parenthetically, we're also curious about the output to various versions
of online help in 10.

Any opinions or experiences you care to share will be received with
interest and thanks.

~~Gay

 

 

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Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com http://www.epicor.com/ 
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: gal...@epicor.com mailto:gal...@epicor.com 

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Frame 9 buggy - Frame 10 as bad? Frame 11 on horizon?

[Gay Alson]

Hello Framers,

I use conditional text a lot.  A LOT.  Frame 9 seems to crash on a
daily, sometimes hourly, basis. Others in my department haven't
experienced this behavior, but don't use conditional text like I do. The
".recover" files drive me crazy because I always feel I should compare
them to the source .fm file, but even FM warns against using .recover
files. And of all the times I laboriously made comparisons, I found
exactly once when the source doc was missing something in the .recover
file.

Anyway, I'm not really writing to vent, more to ask if Frame 10 is any
better when it comes to conditional text - my brief research leads me to
believe 10 fixes a lot of the problems in 9 but introduces new ones. So
this may be a case of the known devil... 

There's a possibility we can upgrade soon, but now I'm wondering if we
should wait another year (?) till FM 11.  Frankly, I lobbied so long and
hard to make the move from Word to FM (7.2) but ever since upgrading to
9, I've regretted it.

Parenthetically, we're also curious about the output to various versions
of online help in 10.

Any opinions or experiences you care to share will be received with
interest and thanks.

~~Gay





_____

Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com <http://www.epicor.com/> 
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com <mailto:galson at epicor.com> 

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RE: framers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 1

[Gay Alson]

What Matt and some others have mentioned is correct: The Table Cell tab
in Paragraph Designer allows for individual cell margins and it even
accepts negative numbers, so you can adjust the margins for just that
one cell instead of affecting the entire table, as you do in Table
Designer.

~~Gay
= 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table

 

Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should
be
ok

 

-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees tdew...@charter.net
wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've
got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the 10 insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the 10 on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across
two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!

 

Tim DeWees


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framers Digest, Vol 74, Issue 1

[Gay Alson]

What Matt and some others have mentioned is correct: The Table Cell tab
in Paragraph Designer allows for individual cell margins and it even
accepts negative numbers, so you can adjust the margins for just that
one cell instead of affecting the entire table, as you do in Table
Designer.

~~Gay
= 

From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:sullivanma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:00 PM
To: Timothy DeWees
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stop number break in table



Check the cell insets in the Table Designer. Reduce them and you should
be
ok



-Matt

@mattrsullivan

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Timothy DeWees 
wrote:

I am in the process of converting a Word Document to FrameMaker. I've
got
everything working correctly except for one detail. The document has a
number of tables with a narrow column on the right margin for revision
numbers. For numbers 1-9, it looks fine. But when I get to a two digit
number (the document is currently on revision 10), the "10" insists on
breaking across two lines. I've tried changing fonts and reducing cell
margins to where it looks like there is plenty of space in the column to
display the "10" on one line. But it still insists on breaking it across
two
lines. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give me!



Tim DeWees


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SOLVED: How to display table title in text inset?

[Gay Alson]

Hello again, Framers,

I never saw my original question appear in this digest but two kind
souls have already responded so apparently some people somewhere
received my posting...

I want to update this issue and report that MamaRed offered a solution
that solved the problem (if not the mystery):

She suggested to NOT use the default Reformat using current document's
catalogs when I imported my text inset but to select the Retain
source's formatting option. Both the host and source docs have
identical paragraph and table formats, so I don't know why this worked
but it did. 

Thanks to MamaRed and also to Baruch Brodersen, both of whom offered
help (and Baruch also suggested I post this to the list as a Solved
issue).

Cheers,

~~Gay

 

 

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Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
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How to display table title in text inset?

[Gay Alson]

Happy Monday morning, Framers,

I have a .fm source file that I want to use as a text inset. It contains
a table with a format in Table Designer defined as Title: Above Title.
In Paragraph Designer, the Table Title paragraph tag includes
autonumbering. In the source file, the table title appears correctly.
When I import the file into a destination doc, the autonumbering updates
but the table title is missing. That is, I see Table 18: instead of
Table 18: Install Options

I've imported table formats and paragraph formats from the same template
into both the source and the destination files. Does anyone know the
answer to this mystery?

TIA,

~~Gay

 

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Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com http://www.epicor.com 
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
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SOLVED: How to display table title in text inset?

[Gay Alson]

Hello again, Framers,

I never saw my original question appear in this digest but two kind
souls have already responded so apparently some people somewhere
received my posting...

I want to update this issue and report that "MamaRed" offered a solution
that solved the problem (if not the mystery):

She suggested to NOT use the default "Reformat using current document's
catalogs" when I imported my text inset but to select the "Retain
source's formatting" option. Both the host and source docs have
identical paragraph and table formats, so I don't know why this worked
but it did. 

Thanks to MamaRed and also to Baruch Brodersen, both of whom offered
help (and Baruch also suggested I post this to the list as a Solved
issue).

Cheers,

~~Gay





_________

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Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
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E-mail: galson at epicor.com

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How to display table title in text inset?

[Gay Alson]

Happy Monday morning, Framers,

I have a .fm source file that I want to use as a text inset. It contains
a table with a format in Table Designer defined as Title: Above Title.
In Paragraph Designer, the Table Title paragraph tag includes
autonumbering. In the source file, the table title appears correctly.
When I import the file into a destination doc, the autonumbering updates
but the table title is missing. That is, I see "Table 18:" instead of
"Table 18: Install Options"

I've imported table formats and paragraph formats from the same template
into both the source and the destination files. Does anyone know the
answer to this mystery?

TIA,

~~Gay



_________

Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com <http://www.epicor.com> 
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com <mailto:galson at epicor.com> 

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Re: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

[Gay Alson]

Sorry, Framers, I answered Lea offline, but in case anyone else is
interested, here's how to do it (thanks to my super colleague, Stephane
Hogue):

1.  Open maker.ini   C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\FrameMaker9\maker.ini
2.  In the ClipboardFormatsPriorities key, move TEXT from the end to the
beginning of the list =TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW,
MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT
3.  Save the ini file and restart FrameMaker.

What a time-saver this little gem is!
~~Gay

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Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 12:40:21 -0500
From: Kelley, Lea Shannon lea.kel...@thyssenkrupp.com
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Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness
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Gay wrote:

How do I change the maker.ini so Ctrl-V will paste text from Word?


Lea Shannon Kelley

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FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

[Gay Alson]

Hi Framers,

What on earth have I done? Suddenly single or double quotes in
FrameMaker 9 (fully patched) display as question marks. (Only in Frame,
not Outlook, Notepad, or Word.)

I've been on Windows 7 for awhile now; only thing I've changed recently
is to edit maker.ini so Ctrl-V will paste text from Word instead of
having it come in as OLE. My co-workers who did the same thing haven't
had this substitution and none of my other keys have been remapped.

Come to think of it, I also install some new fonts a couple of weeks ago
but the timing doesn't indicate a link between that and this problem.

Closing and relaunching FM didn't work. I googled some info about
keyboard shortcuts stop working and none of the suggestions help (to
use the keyboard shortcut to switch languages Left Alt Shift or to
change language settings in Control Panel).

Does anyone have any experience with this oddity? Of course this had to
happen coming up to a deadline  :(

Thanks for any suggestions,
~~Gay


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(SOLVED) RE: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

[Gay Alson]

Sorry if I needlessly took anyone's time -- a co-worker just compared my
maker.ini file to his and discovered that I had inadvertently introduced
some corruption when I edited it yesterday. I substituted his .ini for
mine and all is well again.

Thanks!
~~Gay


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FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

[Gay Alson]

Hi Framers,

What on earth have I done? Suddenly single or double quotes in
FrameMaker 9 (fully patched) display as question marks. (Only in Frame,
not Outlook, Notepad, or Word.)

I've been on Windows 7 for awhile now; only thing I've changed recently
is to edit maker.ini so Ctrl-V will paste text from Word instead of
having it come in as OLE. My co-workers who did the same thing haven't
had this substitution and none of my other keys have been remapped.

Come to think of it, I also install some new fonts a couple of weeks ago
but the timing doesn't indicate a link between that and this problem.

Closing and relaunching FM didn't work. I googled some info about
"keyboard shortcuts stop working" and none of the suggestions help (to
use the keyboard shortcut to switch languages Left Alt Shift or to
change language settings in Control Panel).

Does anyone have any experience with this oddity? Of course this had to
happen coming up to a deadline  :(

Thanks for any suggestions,
~~Gay


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(SOLVED) RE: FrameMaker 9 keyboard weirdness

[Gay Alson]

Sorry if I needlessly took anyone's time -- a co-worker just compared my
maker.ini file to his and discovered that I had inadvertently introduced
some corruption when I edited it yesterday. I substituted his .ini for
mine and all is well again.

Thanks!
~~Gay


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RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

Hi Roger –

 

What an interesting suggestion.  I had never worked with text flows before, but 
after your e-mail, I created a text flow tag called Metadata containing the 
four fields I mentioned earlier and I imported only that flow into the “master” 
file that was designed to display only the metadata info from each text inset 
file.

 

You’re right – it works!

 

You mentioned putting each text inset file in a different flow, up to 256. But 
as we may end up with several hundred text inset files over time, it occurred 
to me to try it the other way ‘round: That is, to see if the main contents of 
each text inset file could remain in Flow Tag A, with only the four-line 
metadata in a separate flow. (Which means dealing only with two text flows 
instead of many.) That’s what I tried and it does work, at least in my first 
experiments. Can you think of any reason NOT to continue with that? I also 
wasn’t sure about where to place the new text frame containing the Metadata 
Flow Tag, so I inserted it in the upper left of my regular Flow A.  I had my 
doubts whether FM would permit a text flow within the frame of the larger Flow 
A but it seems to be okay.

 

Thank you so much for your creative approach to this – do my changes make sense 
or might I have paved the way for future problems due to my lack of familiarity 
with this new feature?

 

Thanks again,

~~Gay

 

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:51 AM
To: Gay Alson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Any way to hide unconditional text?

 

Hello Gay

One idea is to use multiple flows for your text insets. A FM document can have 
up to (I think) 256 different flows, each having a unique name. You could have 
each text inset in a different flow, but put your metadata in the main flow 
(A). Then when you import the text inset, you select the flow that you want to 
import (try it and see!). If you name your flows appropriately, it should be 
clear which flow you want to import.

Depending on the size of your insets, you may want to use either one file or 
split them across several files in order to limit file size.

That's one idea that comes to mind...

Hope this helps.

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
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From: Gay Alson [mailto:gal...@epicor.com]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:08:22 -0400
Subject: Any way to hide unconditional text?

Hello again, Framers,

 

(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)

 

Does the following make sense?

 

Let’s say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of various 
books. Each TI file starts with this:

 

 Filename - Long system variable
 Creation Date - Short system variable
 Description Not a variable; a text description of the text inset file.
 Product Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is 
app-specific or global. 

 

This information is conditionalized with the Metadata tag (which is used only 
here and nowhere else in any of the TI files). 

For reporting and versioning purposes, I want to copy and paste each text inset 
file into a file called “TextInsets.fm”. In this file, I want to show ONLY text 
bearing the Metadata tag. However, although I can hide all of the other 
condition tags, I can’t hide unconditional text. (And I don’t want to have to 
tag unconditional text with a condition called Unconditional, just to be able 
to hide it...!)

Am I overlooking something obvious, or a better way to accomplish this?

 

Thanks for any suggestions,

~~Gay

 

 

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Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: gal...@epicor.com

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RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

Hi Roger,

I, too, am a “grateful reader of other people’s suggestions” – now including 
yours  ;-)

Unless someone else comes up with a different solution, I’ll continue 
implementing the text flow idea. If I should run into a show-stopper, I’ll 
certainly post it!

Have a good day and thank you again,

~~Gay

 

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:02 AM
To: Gay Alson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

 

Hello Gay

Not creative, just a grateful reader of other people's suggestions over the 
years ;^)

I have in fact used the method described in years past, with entirely 
satisfactory results.

Others may chime in with better suggestions or refinements, but what you are 
doing sounds fine. On a technical point, FrameMaker does not mind where you 
place your text frame, since it is not in the larger flow A anyway. It 
*overlies* your flow A when you view your document, but that's just a visual 
effect caused by the master page design for flow A. If you want, you could 
modify your flow A master page(s) to accommodate space for your Metadata flow. 
It's entirely up to you. When you import the contents of a flow into another 
document as an inset, you can choose to disregard the layout of the imported 
flow in favour of the layout of the container document (I think that's 
correct; it's a long time since I used insets).

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330





From: Gay Alson [mailto:gal...@epicor.com]
To: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com]
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:59:16 -0400
Subject: RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

Hi Roger –

 

What an interesting suggestion.  I had never worked with text flows before, but 
after your e-mail, I created a text flow tag called Metadata containing the 
four fields I mentioned earlier and I imported only that flow into the “master” 
file that was designed to display only the metadata info from each text inset 
file.

 

You’re right – it works!

 

You mentioned putting each text inset file in a different flow, up to 256. But 
as we may end up with several hundred text inset files over time, it occurred 
to me to try it the other way ‘round: That is, to see if the main contents of 
each text inset file could remain in Flow Tag A, with only the four-line 
metadata in a separate flow. (Which means dealing only with two text flows 
instead of many.) That’s what I tried and it does work, at least in my first 
experiments. Can you think of any reason NOT to continue with that? I also 
wasn’t sure about where to place the new text frame containing the Metadata 
Flow Tag, so I inserted it in the upper left of my regular Flow A.  I had my 
doubts whether FM would permit a text flow within the frame of the larger Flow 
A but it seems to be okay.

 

Thank you so much for your creative approach to this – do my changes make sense 
or might I have paved the way for future problems due to my lack of familiarity 
with this new feature?

 

Thanks again,

~~Gay

 

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:51 AM
To: Gay Alson
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Any way to hide unconditional text?

 

Hello Gay

One idea is to use multiple flows for your text insets. A FM document can have 
up to (I think) 256 different flows, each having a unique name. You could have 
each text inset in a different flow, but put your metadata in the main flow 
(A). Then when you import the text inset, you select the flow that you want to 
import (try it and see!). If you name your flows appropriately, it should be 
clear which flow you want to import.

Depending on the size of your insets, you may want to use either one file or 
split them across several files in order to limit file size.

That's one idea that comes to mind...

Hope this helps.

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330






From: Gay Alson [mailto:gal...@epicor.com]
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:08:22 -0400
Subject: Any way to hide unconditional text?

Hello again, Framers,

 

(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)

 

Does the following make sense?

 

Let’s say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of various 
books. Each TI file starts with this:

 

 Filename - Long system variable
 Creation Date - Short system variable
 Description Not a variable; a text description of the text inset file.
 Product Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is 
app-specific or global. 

 

This information is conditionalized

RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

I don't know if I badly explained my own thinking or if I misunderstood
the suggested procedure.  

When I mentioned a master document, I originally envisioned it as one
big doc into which would be imported all text inset files. However, they
would NOT be imported to other files FROM this file - this is just a
master dump file for the purpose of holding metadata that could be
searched when writers want TI files to use.

After reading the idea of text flows, I put the four lines of metadata
into a separate text frame at the start of the TI template file (from
which each TI file will be made) and I named that flow tag Metadata.
Then I imported each TI file, one at a time, into the master file and
when prompted which text flow tag to import, I selected Metadata. The
result was just what I wanted: a .fm file containing ONLY the metadata.

I was afraid having the small Metadata text flow frame in the corner of
my main Flow Tag A would cause problems and some of your comments seem
to bear this out, so I'm experimenting with putting that little text
frame in a margin, outside Flow Tag A. So far, it doesn't seem to pose a
problem.

I still feel that Flow Tag A should be left alone as the container for
the main TI file - it's connected so pages continue as they should. Then
the few lines of metadata are in a separate area that can be imported
into the master (dump) file. It's the only time this text flow will
ever be used, and since the text in this small frame has a condition tag
applied that is routinely hidden, the real TI file can be edited,
imported where needed, etc., with no real change to existing TI
functionality.

At least, that's my theory!

Many thanks - as always - to you folks who so willingly give of your
time and ideas. This list is a fantastic resource.

~~Gay

 

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:50 AM
To: Gay Alson; rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

 

Gay Alson wrote:
 

You mentioned putting each text inset file in a different flow, up to
256. But as we may end up with several hundred text inset files over
time, it occurred to me to try it the other way 'round: That is, to see
if the main contents of each text inset file could remain in Flow Tag A,
with only the four-line metadata in a separate flow. (Which means
dealing only with two text flows instead of many.) That's what I tried
and it does work, at least in my first experiments. Can you think of any
reason NOT to continue with that? I also wasn't sure about where to
place the new text frame containing the Metadata Flow Tag, so I inserted
it in the upper left of my regular Flow A.  I had my doubts whether FM
would permit a text flow within the frame of the larger Flow A but it
seems to be okay.

 

No, this will *not* work for your purposes. When you reference a text
inset file from a container file, you specify which flow to import
from. If all the content chunks are in Flow A, then all you will ever be
able to do is include *all* the content chunks each time you do an
insert from that TI file. The whole point of putting the content chunks
in separate, named flows is to be able to reference them as separate
content objects. It doesn't matter if all your meta-data text is in the
same flow, because you will never need to insert those chunks
individually into another document.

 

-Fred Ridder

 

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Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

Hi Roger ?



What an interesting suggestion.  I had never worked with text flows before, but 
after your e-mail, I created a text flow tag called Metadata containing the 
four fields I mentioned earlier and I imported only that flow into the ?master? 
file that was designed to display only the metadata info from each text inset 
file.



You?re right ? it works!



You mentioned putting each text inset file in a different flow, up to 256. But 
as we may end up with several hundred text inset files over time, it occurred 
to me to try it the other way ?round: That is, to see if the main contents of 
each text inset file could remain in Flow Tag A, with only the four-line 
metadata in a separate flow. (Which means dealing only with two text flows 
instead of many.) That?s what I tried and it does work, at least in my first 
experiments. Can you think of any reason NOT to continue with that? I also 
wasn?t sure about where to place the new text frame containing the Metadata 
Flow Tag, so I inserted it in the upper left of my regular Flow A.  I had my 
doubts whether FM would permit a text flow within the frame of the larger Flow 
A but it seems to be okay.



Thank you so much for your creative approach to this ? do my changes make sense 
or might I have paved the way for future problems due to my lack of familiarity 
with this new feature?



Thanks again,

~~Gay



From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:51 AM
To: Gay Alson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Any way to hide unconditional text?



Hello Gay

One idea is to use multiple flows for your text insets. A FM document can have 
up to (I think) 256 different flows, each having a unique name. You could have 
each text inset in a different flow, but put your metadata in the main flow 
(A). Then when you import the text inset, you select the flow that you want to 
import (try it and see!). If you name your flows appropriately, it should be 
clear which flow you want to import.

Depending on the size of your insets, you may want to use either one file or 
split them across several files in order to limit file size.

That's one idea that comes to mind...

Hope this helps.

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330





From: Gay Alson [mailto:gal...@epicor.com]
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:08:22 -0400
Subject: Any way to hide unconditional text?

Hello again, Framers,



(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)



Does the following make sense?



Let?s say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of various 
books. Each TI file starts with this:



  system variable
  system variable
  Not a variable; a text description of the text inset file.
  Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is 
app-specific or global. 



This information is conditionalized with the Metadata tag (which is used only 
here and nowhere else in any of the TI files). 

For reporting and versioning purposes, I want to copy and paste each text inset 
file into a file called ?TextInsets.fm?. In this file, I want to show ONLY text 
bearing the Metadata tag. However, although I can hide all of the other 
condition tags, I can?t hide unconditional text. (And I don?t want to have to 
tag unconditional text with a condition called Unconditional, just to be able 
to hide it...!)

Am I overlooking something obvious, or a better way to accomplish this?



Thanks for any suggestions,

~~Gay





_

Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com

Epicor (Incorporating NSB and CRS)
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Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

Hi Roger,

I, too, am a ?grateful reader of other people?s suggestions? ? now including 
yours  ;-)

Unless someone else comes up with a different solution, I?ll continue 
implementing the text flow idea. If I should run into a show-stopper, I?ll 
certainly post it!

Have a good day and thank you again,

~~Gay



From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:02 AM
To: Gay Alson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?



Hello Gay

Not creative, just a grateful reader of other people's suggestions over the 
years ;^)

I have in fact used the method described in years past, with entirely 
satisfactory results.

Others may chime in with better suggestions or refinements, but what you are 
doing sounds fine. On a technical point, FrameMaker does not mind where you 
place your text frame, since it is not "in" the larger flow A anyway. It 
*overlies* your flow A when you view your document, but that's just a visual 
effect caused by the master page design for flow A. If you want, you could 
modify your flow A master page(s) to accommodate space for your Metadata flow. 
It's entirely up to you. When you import the contents of a flow into another 
document as an inset, you can choose to disregard the layout of the imported 
flow in favour of the layout of the "container" document (I think that's 
correct; it's a long time since I used insets).

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330



________

From: Gay Alson [mailto:gal...@epicor.com]
To: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttleworth at avbasesystems.com]
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:59:16 -0400
Subject: RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?

Hi Roger ?



What an interesting suggestion.  I had never worked with text flows before, but 
after your e-mail, I created a text flow tag called Metadata containing the 
four fields I mentioned earlier and I imported only that flow into the ?master? 
file that was designed to display only the metadata info from each text inset 
file.



You?re right ? it works!



You mentioned putting each text inset file in a different flow, up to 256. But 
as we may end up with several hundred text inset files over time, it occurred 
to me to try it the other way ?round: That is, to see if the main contents of 
each text inset file could remain in Flow Tag A, with only the four-line 
metadata in a separate flow. (Which means dealing only with two text flows 
instead of many.) That?s what I tried and it does work, at least in my first 
experiments. Can you think of any reason NOT to continue with that? I also 
wasn?t sure about where to place the new text frame containing the Metadata 
Flow Tag, so I inserted it in the upper left of my regular Flow A.  I had my 
doubts whether FM would permit a text flow within the frame of the larger Flow 
A but it seems to be okay.



Thank you so much for your creative approach to this ? do my changes make sense 
or might I have paved the way for future problems due to my lack of familiarity 
with this new feature?



Thanks again,

~~Gay



From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:51 AM
To: Gay Alson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Any way to hide unconditional text?



Hello Gay

One idea is to use multiple flows for your text insets. A FM document can have 
up to (I think) 256 different flows, each having a unique name. You could have 
each text inset in a different flow, but put your metadata in the main flow 
(A). Then when you import the text inset, you select the flow that you want to 
import (try it and see!). If you name your flows appropriately, it should be 
clear which flow you want to import.

Depending on the size of your insets, you may want to use either one file or 
split them across several files in order to limit file size.

That's one idea that comes to mind...

Hope this helps.

Roger

Roger Shuttleworth
Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
N5V 3S4
Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330




________

From: Gay Alson [mailto:gal...@epicor.com]
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:08:22 -0400
Subject: Any way to hide unconditional text?

Hello again, Framers,



(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)



Does the following make sense?



Let?s say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of various 
books. Each TI file starts with this:



  system variable
  system variable
  Not a variable; a text description of the text inset file.
  Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is 
app-specific or global. 



This information is conditionalized with the Metadata tag (whic

Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

I don't know if I badly explained my own thinking or if I misunderstood
the suggested procedure.  

When I mentioned a "master" document, I originally envisioned it as one
big doc into which would be imported all text inset files. However, they
would NOT be imported to other files FROM this file - this is just a
master dump file for the purpose of holding metadata that could be
searched when writers want TI files to use.

After reading the idea of text flows, I put the four lines of metadata
into a separate text frame at the start of the TI template file (from
which each TI file will be made) and I named that flow tag "Metadata".
Then I imported each TI file, one at a time, into the "master" file and
when prompted which text flow tag to import, I selected "Metadata". The
result was just what I wanted: a .fm file containing ONLY the metadata.

I was afraid having the small Metadata text flow frame in the corner of
my main Flow Tag A would cause problems and some of your comments seem
to bear this out, so I'm experimenting with putting that little text
frame in a margin, outside Flow Tag A. So far, it doesn't seem to pose a
problem.

I still feel that Flow Tag A should be left alone as the container for
the main TI file - it's connected so pages continue as they should. Then
the few lines of metadata are in a separate area that can be imported
into the "master" (dump) file. It's the only time this text flow will
ever be used, and since the text in this small frame has a condition tag
applied that is routinely hidden, the "real" TI file can be edited,
imported where needed, etc., with no real change to existing TI
functionality.

At least, that's my theory!

Many thanks - as always - to you folks who so willingly give of your
time and ideas. This list is a fantastic resource.

~~Gay



From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:50 AM
To: Gay Alson; rshuttleworth at avbasesystems.com
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Any way to hide unconditional text?



Gay Alson wrote:


You mentioned putting each text inset file in a different flow, up to
256. But as we may end up with several hundred text inset files over
time, it occurred to me to try it the other way 'round: That is, to see
if the main contents of each text inset file could remain in Flow Tag A,
with only the four-line metadata in a separate flow. (Which means
dealing only with two text flows instead of many.) That's what I tried
and it does work, at least in my first experiments. Can you think of any
reason NOT to continue with that? I also wasn't sure about where to
place the new text frame containing the Metadata Flow Tag, so I inserted
it in the upper left of my regular Flow A.  I had my doubts whether FM
would permit a text flow within the frame of the larger Flow A but it
seems to be okay.



No, this will *not* work for your purposes. When you reference a text
inset file from a "container" file, you specify which flow to import
from. If all the content chunks are in Flow A, then all you will ever be
able to do is include *all* the content chunks each time you do an
insert from that TI file. The whole point of putting the content chunks
in separate, named flows is to be able to reference them as separate
content objects. It doesn't matter if all your meta-data text is in the
same flow, because you will never need to insert those chunks
individually into another document.



-Fred Ridder



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Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

Hello again, Framers,

 

(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)

 

Does the following make sense?

 

Let's say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of
various books. Each TI file starts with this:

 

 Filename - Long system variable
 Creation Date - Short system variable
 Description Not a variable; a text description of the text inset
file.
 Product Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is
app-specific or global. 

 

This information is conditionalized with the Metadata tag (which is used
only here and nowhere else in any of the TI files). 

For reporting and versioning purposes, I want to copy and paste each
text inset file into a file called TextInsets.fm. In this file, I want
to show ONLY text bearing the Metadata tag. However, although I can hide
all of the other condition tags, I can't hide unconditional text. (And I
don't want to have to tag unconditional text with a condition called
Unconditional, just to be able to hide it...!)

Am I overlooking something obvious, or a better way to accomplish this?

 

Thanks for any suggestions,

~~Gay

 

 

_

Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com http://www.epicor.com 
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: gal...@epicor.com mailto:gal...@epicor.com 

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Any way to hide unconditional text?

[Gay Alson]

Hello again, Framers,



(FrameMaker 9.0p255, Windows 7 64-bit.)



Does the following make sense?



Let's say we have 100 text inset files for use in various chapters of
various books. Each TI file starts with this:



  system variable
  system variable
  Not a variable; a text description of the text inset
file.
  Not a variable; an indication whether the text inset is
app-specific or global. 



This information is conditionalized with the Metadata tag (which is used
only here and nowhere else in any of the TI files). 

For reporting and versioning purposes, I want to copy and paste each
text inset file into a file called "TextInsets.fm". In this file, I want
to show ONLY text bearing the Metadata tag. However, although I can hide
all of the other condition tags, I can't hide unconditional text. (And I
don't want to have to tag unconditional text with a condition called
Unconditional, just to be able to hide it...!)

Am I overlooking something obvious, or a better way to accomplish this?



Thanks for any suggestions,

~~Gay





_____

Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com <http://www.epicor.com> 
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com <mailto:galson at epicor.com> 

Epicor (Incorporating NSB and CRS)
2800 Trans Canada Highway, Pointe Claire QC H9R 1T1


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Anyone know a shortcut for Reset Workspace?

[Gay Alson]

I do this a million times a day just to buy back some screen real estate
and actually see the file I'm working on. Can't seem to find any
shortcut for it - has anyone come up with this?

 

TIA,

~~Gay

 

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RE: Beginning new project based on book files from previous project

[Gay Alson]

Thanks to Richard Combs, Steve Johnson and Rick Quattro for helpful
insights.

We're all in agreement that the version-specific naming structure within
each book project is not a good thing -- I'm going to try to get our
department to go back to the old way we did it before someone (not I!)
got the bright idea to change it.

In the meantime, renaming the files from within the book window is the
way to go and the way I shall go, henceforth  ;~)

Thanks to you all, you're a super group!

~~Gay

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:30 AM
To: Gay Alson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
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project

Gay Alson wrote:
 
 I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
 forgotten an important step or concept...
 
 Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
 Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
 
 Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work.
 But
 now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as
a
 starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
 however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm
that
 points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
 file...

You have to rename the files within the book window, and then FM
correctly updates all the links. While you're acknowledging the many
prompts that FM displays as you do this, you might reconsider your file
naming convention so you don't have to go through the same process for
5.7. :-) 

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Beginning new project based on book files from previous project

[Gay Alson]

Hi Framers,

I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
forgotten an important step or concept...

Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
   5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
   5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
   5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
   5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm

Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work. But
now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
file... 

I swear I have done this many times in the past and not experienced a
problem...but today brain freeze has taken over.

If anyone can straighten me out, I will certainly be grateful.

TIA,
~~Gay


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Epicor Retail
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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

[Gay Alson]

Thanks to Richard Combs, Steve Johnson and Rick Quattro for helpful
insights.

We're all in agreement that the version-specific naming structure within
each book project is not a good thing -- I'm going to try to get our
department to go back to the old way we did it before someone (not I!)
got the bright idea to change it.

In the meantime, renaming the files from within the book window is the
way to go and the way I shall go, henceforth  ;~)

Thanks to you all, you're a super group!

~~Gay

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:30 AM
To: Gay Alson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Beginning new project based on book & files from previous
project

Gay Alson wrote:

> I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
> forgotten an important step or concept...
> 
> Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
> Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
>5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
>5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
>5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
>5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm
> 
> Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work.
> But
> now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as
a
> starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
> however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm
that
> points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
> file...

You have to rename the files within the book window, and then FM
correctly updates all the links. While you're acknowledging the many
prompts that FM displays as you do this, you might reconsider your file
naming convention so you don't have to go through the same process for
5.7. :-) 

Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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Beginning new project based on book & files from previous project

[Gay Alson]

Hi Framers,

I'm porting some books forward for a new version and have somehow
forgotten an important step or concept...

Book:  5.5_SuperProduct.book
Files: 5.5_SuperProductCover.fm
   5.5_SuperProductTOC.fm
   5.5_SuperProductPreface.fm
   5.5_SuperProductFunctions.fm
   5.5_SuperProductAppendix.fm

Everything is fine in the 5.5 version and all cross-references work. But
now I need to begin work on version 5.6, using everything from 5.5 as a
starting point. The obvious way is to rename all 5.5 files to 5.6 --
however, I think a cross-reference in 5.6_SuperProductFunctions.fm that
points to the Appendix will still try to find the 5.5 version of that
file... 

I swear I have done this many times in the past and not experienced a
problem...but today brain freeze has taken over.

If anyone can straighten me out, I will certainly be grateful.

TIA,
~~Gay


_
Gay Alson
Senior Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com
Tel.: (514) 428-2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com
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Re: OFF-Topic: Perfect Proverb for Tech Writers

[Gay Alson]

 Less words.  Less crap.  -- Shtikl.com

Shouldn't that be Fewer words?

(Sorry to be nitpicky -- but we are tech writers, after all...)


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OFF-Topic: Perfect Proverb for Tech Writers

[Gay Alson]

>> "Less words.  Less crap."  -- Shtikl.com

Shouldn't that be "Fewer words"?

(Sorry to be nitpicky -- but we are tech writers, after all...)


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OT: Any opinions on creating online help?

[Gay Alson]

Hello,

 

On Windows 7, FM 9, fully patched, considering upgrading to 10 but
nothing imminent.

 

For years we've produced both compressed and uncompressed HTML help,
most of it created manually in a good editor. We've purposely stayed
away from third-party conversion utilities, mostly so that whenever
something breaks, we can fix it ourselves.

 

Now we're thinking of improving our method of help creation/maintenance.
Maybe doing something with a knowledge-base - or would structured FM
hold more promise? Not much disposable time for steep learning curves...
and as always, cost matters.

 

I'm fishing for suggestions, advice, or anything helpful about ... help.


 

Thanks,

~~Gay

 

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Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com http://www.epicor.com 
Tel.: (514) 426-0822, ext. 2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
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RE: OT: Any opinions on creating online help?

[Gay Alson]

Sorry for the omissions and thanks for your response.

Our deliverables are a multitude of various end-user docs: User guides, install 
docs, release notes, you name it.  Dozens of documents, updated on a regular 
basis. We distribute our FM-authored docs in PDF format.  Translation is a 
maybe, up ahead somewhere, not a current consideration. 

I was aware of RoboHelp and WebWorks, but haven’t got anything on which to base 
a comparison. And there are probably several other cost-effective alternatives. 
 I contacted the list to see what I could learn from other folks’ experiences.

Thanks for all feedback,

~~Gay

 

From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:43 PM
To: Gay Alson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Any opinions on creating online help?

 

Hello Gay

You omitted to tell us what your other deliverables are, apart from Help; and 
what your future deliverables may be. For example, if you are not creating PDF, 
do you need FM at all? Will you be translating?

The range of options spans all the way from a single HAT such as RoboHelp 
(alone) to a dedicated XML content management system using a dedicated XML 
editor (which could be FM) and outputting to several formats and several 
languages.

More information, please!

Roger


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AV-BASE Systems Inc.
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OT: Any opinions on creating online help?

[Gay Alson]

Hello,



On Windows 7, FM 9, fully patched, considering upgrading to 10 but
nothing imminent.



For years we've produced both compressed and uncompressed HTML help,
most of it created manually in a good editor. We've purposely stayed
away from third-party conversion utilities, mostly so that whenever
something breaks, we can fix it ourselves.



Now we're thinking of improving our method of help creation/maintenance.
Maybe doing something with a knowledge-base - or would structured FM
hold more promise? Not much disposable time for steep learning curves...
and as always, cost matters.



I'm fishing for suggestions, advice, or anything helpful about ... help.




Thanks,

~~Gay



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Gay Alson
Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com <http://www.epicor.com> 
Tel.: (514) 426-0822, ext. 2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com <mailto:galson at epicor.com> 

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OT: Any opinions on creating online help?

[Gay Alson]

Sorry for the omissions and thanks for your response.

Our deliverables are a multitude of various end-user docs: User guides, install 
docs, release notes, you name it.  Dozens of documents, updated on a regular 
basis. We distribute our FM-authored docs in PDF format.  Translation is a 
maybe, up ahead somewhere, not a current consideration. 

I was aware of RoboHelp and WebWorks, but haven?t got anything on which to base 
a comparison. And there are probably several other cost-effective alternatives. 
 I contacted the list to see what I could learn from other folks? experiences.

Thanks for all feedback,

~~Gay



From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:43 PM
To: Gay Alson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: OT: Any opinions on creating online help?



Hello Gay

You omitted to tell us what your other deliverables are, apart from Help; and 
what your future deliverables may be. For example, if you are not creating PDF, 
do you need FM at all? Will you be translating?

The range of options spans all the way from a single HAT such as RoboHelp 
(alone) to a dedicated XML content management system using a dedicated XML 
editor (which could be FM) and outputting to several formats and several 
languages.

More information, please!

Roger


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Technical Documentation
AV-BASE Systems Inc.
1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200
London, Ontario
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RE: FM9 Crash Conditional Formats

[Gay Alson]

   I had this all the time when I had the Conditional Text pod combined

 with other pods. When I separated them, it stopped crashing.

 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson

I was REALLY hoping this would be the answer I've desperately hoped for!
But alas, despite having detached the Conditional Text pod from any
other pod, just now I had another crash when I tried to use it.

FM9 has successfully trained me to save all open files every few
seconds, because I've learned to my sorrow that a crash from trying to
use conditional text is inevitable. And between the time lost with those
.recover files and the time lost compulsively saving and resaving
several open files, the latter is the lesser of two evils.

~~Gay


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[Gay Alson]

>   I had this all the time when I had the Conditional Text pod combined

> with other pods. When I separated them, it stopped crashing.

> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson

I was REALLY hoping this would be the answer I've desperately hoped for!
But alas, despite having detached the Conditional Text pod from any
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FM9 has successfully trained me to save all open files every few
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OT: Sebastian

[Gay Alson]

Ann, I'm sure most people don't mind that the post slipped accidentally
slipped in. Most of us have experienced the love of and for a pet, and
the grief that comes when we have to say good-bye.

I hope your happy memories of Sebastian will comfort you and help you
through this painful time.

~~Gay Alson

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:56:34 -0400
From: Ann Zdunczyk azdunc...@triad.rr.com
To: Liz Bozeman wpboze...@windstream.net,
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Subject: Sebastian
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As of 2:30 pm Tuesday my heart is broken. I had to put Sebastian to
sleep.
He was about 17 years old. Not sure if he had a stroke or what but he
got to
where he staggered around. This happened very quickly on Monday. I took
him
to the vet and they started him on antibiotics since his kidneys looked
like
they were starting to fail. Tuesday he was worse and could not hold his
head
up or walk at all. 

 

He has been my love, protector, and friend. I will miss him so much as
will
his brother from the same litter. We still have Rusty.

 

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a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout,  Translation Consulting,  Template Creation
Phone: (336)922-1271
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:05:05 -0400
From: Ann Zdunczyk azdunc...@triad.rr.com
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Subject: OT: Sebastian
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I am so sorry for sending this to the Framers list. I meant to send it
to
the e-mail listed just below in my address book.

 

Sorry again.

 

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From: Ann Zdunczyk [mailto:azdunc...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:57 PM
To: Liz Bozeman (wpboze...@windstream.net); wolfm...@northstate.net;
'framers@lists.frameusers.com'; 'Brenda Laffoon'; 'Barbara Parr'; 'Anne
Mills'; 'c...@webfresco.com'; Patricia Callow
Subject: Sebastian

 

As of 2:30 pm Tuesday my heart is broken. I had to put Sebastian to
sleep.
He was about 17 years old. Not sure if he had a stroke or what but he
got to
where he staggered around. This happened very quickly on Monday. I took
him
to the vet and they started him on antibiotics since his kidneys looked
like
they were starting to fail. Tuesday he was worse and could not hold his
head
up or walk at all. 

 

He has been my love, protector, and friend. I will miss him so much as
will
his brother from the same litter. We still have Rusty.

 

**
Ann Zdunczyk
President, JOAT, SWAG
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout,  Translation Consulting,  Template Creation
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax:   (888)523-2028
Cell:  (336)456-4493
Cell 2:(336)655-4783
http://www.a2z-pub.com  
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:58:01 -0500
From: Donald M Rinderknecht donald.m.rinderkne...@noaa.gov
To: Ann Zdunczyk

OT: Sebastian

[Gay Alson]

Ann, I'm sure most people don't mind that the post slipped accidentally
slipped in. Most of us have experienced the love of and for a pet, and
the grief that comes when we have to say good-bye.

I hope your happy memories of Sebastian will comfort you and help you
through this painful time.

~~Gay Alson

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,   ,
"'Brenda
Laffoon'" ,"'Barbara Parr'"
,"'Anne Mills'" ,
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As of 2:30 pm Tuesday my heart is broken. I had to put Sebastian to
sleep.
He was about 17 years old. Not sure if he had a stroke or what but he
got to
where he staggered around. This happened very quickly on Monday. I took
him
to the vet and they started him on antibiotics since his kidneys looked
like
they were starting to fail. Tuesday he was worse and could not hold his
head
up or walk at all. 



He has been my love, protector, and friend. I will miss him so much as
will
his brother from the same litter. We still have Rusty.



**
Ann Zdunczyk
President, JOAT, SWAG
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout,  Translation Consulting, & Template Creation
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax:   (888)523-2028
Cell:  (336)456-4493
Cell 2:(336)655-4783
 <http://www.a2z-pub.com> http://www.a2z-pub.com  
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:05:05 -0400
From: "Ann Zdunczyk" <azdunc...@triad.rr.com>
To: 
Subject: OT: Sebastian
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Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

I am so sorry for sending this to the Framers list. I meant to send it
to
the e-mail listed just below in my address book.



Sorry again.



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http://www.a2z-pub.com  
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From: Ann Zdunczyk [mailto:azdunc...@triad.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 2:57 PM
To: Liz Bozeman (wpbozeman at windstream.net); wolfmoon at northstate.net;
'framers at lists.frameusers.com'; 'Brenda Laffoon'; 'Barbara Parr'; 'Anne
Mills'; 'cat at webfresco.com'; Patricia Callow
Subject: Sebastian



As of 2:30 pm Tuesday my heart is broken. I had to put Sebastian to
sleep.
He was about 17 years old. Not sure if he had a stroke or what but he
got to
where he staggered around. This happened very quickly on Monday. I took
him
to the vet and they started him on antibiotics since his kidneys looked
like
they were starting to fail. Tuesday he was worse and could not hold his
head
up or walk at all. 



He has been my love, protector, and friend. I will miss him so much as
will
his brother from the same litter. We still have Rusty.



**
Ann Zdunczyk
President, JOAT, SWAG
a2z Publishing, Inc.
Language Layout,  Translation Consulting, & Template Creation
Phone: (336)922-1271
Fax:   (888)523-2028
Cell:  (336)456-4493
Cell 2:(336)655-4783
http://www.a2z-pub.com  
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:58:01 -0500
From: Donald M Rinderknecht <donald.m.rinderkne...@noaa.gov>
To: Ann Z

framers Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5

[Gay Alson]

Hi Shlomo,

Let me echo Carol's thanks to you. We've been experiencing this
irritating bug in 9.0 and had read that we could no longer manually
adjust tabs on the ruler but must do so in the Pgf Designer, which was
bothersome. Your workaround is a great time-saver. We've tested it
several times and it is solid. Now all we have to do is remember to
ensure that the Basic tab is active. ;~)

Thx,
Gay

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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 12:56:47 -0600
From: "Carol J. Elkins" 
To: Shlomo Perets ,framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Paragraph Designer freezes
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Hi Shlomo,

So far, five people has responded to my email indicating that they, 
too, experience this problem with some regularity.  Neither they nor 
I have been able to identify any specific sequence that triggers the 
freeze. However, yours is the first information I've received that 
suggests a workaround. Like you, I know for sure that it freezes when 
I'm adjusting tab stops with the ruler. I will pay attention to what 
set of properties is displayed when the freeze happens. If I can 
avoid a freeze by keeping Basic properties on top, that would be very 
helpful. Thanks for the suggestion, Shlomo.

Carol


At 12:15 AM 4/4/2010, Shlomo Perets wrote:
>Carol,
>
>You wrote:
>
>>Frame 9.0p250 on Win7 64-bit with 12 whopping GB of RAM
>>Is anyone besides me experiencing a total freeze on the paragraph
>>designer (e.g., can't move from one property icon to another property
>>icon; can't apply; can't update all, etc.). This just started
>>happening a couple of weeks ago. It is resolved by closing down Frame
>>and restarting the program. Within a few minutes, the problem returns.
>>Very annoying and time consuming, especially while I am designing
>>templates. Any ideas?
>
>This problem was quite common with early releases of FM9.0.
>
>Can you identify any specific sequence that leads to this freeze?
>
>With the latest patch for FM9 (9.0p250), I consistently have this 
>problem when adjusting tab stops or indents using the ruler, with 
>the paragraph designer showing any set of properties other than 
>Basic.  I usually prefer to set/adjust tabs visually, then Update 
>All (using the paragraph designer or through a keyboard shortcut). 
>Until this bug is fixed, switching the paragraph designer to the 
>Basic set of properties first, before adjusting tabs/indents using 
>the ruler, consistently serves as a workaround.



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Upgrading to FM 9.0 and Word filters

[Gay Alson]

I've been monitoring various threads during FM 9.0's maturation process.
Before upgrading, would appreciate advice or comments from the list.

In addition to (1) general curiosity as to any compelling reasons to
upgrade to 9.0, I am specifically interested in (2) improvements to
filters.   In 7.2, I wasn't particularly impressed either with saving a
.FM file as a Word .doc or with opening a Word .doc in FM.   Does 9.0
have improved filters?

TIA,

Gay

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I've been monitoring various threads during FM 9.0's maturation process.
Before upgrading, would appreciate advice or comments from the list.

In addition to (1) general curiosity as to any compelling reasons to
upgrade to 9.0, I am specifically interested in (2) improvements to
filters.   In 7.2, I wasn't particularly impressed either with saving a
.FM file as a Word .doc or with opening a Word .doc in FM.   Does 9.0
have improved filters?

TIA,

Gay

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Gay Alson
Technical Writer
Epicor Retail
www.epicor.com <http://www.epicor.com> 
Tel.: (514) 426-0822, ext. 2116
Fax: (514) 426-0824
E-mail: galson at epicor.com <mailto:galson at epicor.com> 

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