Re: Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Karen L. Zorn]

Are you asking what is different between the Word doc and the Frame doc? 
Or, are you asking what is different between English and Japanese 
versions? I'm not sure what exactly your translators want to know.

Your Word and Frame docs should have the same content. It's the software 
tool and the file formats that are different. Experienced, reputable 
translation companies should know how to verify the translation.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

Sunny 75*

Joseph wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There's a 600-page Word document that my
 team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
 needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
 to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
 between the two documents).

 We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
 any others?

 .Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
 .Use Mif2go
 .Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.

   
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Diff Comparison between FrameMaker and Word

[Karen L. Zorn]

Are you asking what is different between the Word doc and the Frame doc? 
Or, are you asking what is different between English and Japanese 
versions? I'm not sure what exactly your translators want to know.

Your Word and Frame docs should have the same content. It's the software 
tool and the file formats that are different. Experienced, reputable 
translation companies should know how to verify the translation.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

Sunny 75*

Joseph wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a FrameMaker/Word question. There's a 600-page Word document that my
> team converted into a FrameMaker book.  This document is in English, it
> needs to be translated into Japanese. The translators have asked about tools
> to perform a diff comparison between the two (ie find out what is different
> between the two documents).
>
> We have come up with the following options. Can you let me know if there are
> any others?
>
> .Convert both frame files and word file to RTF
> .Use Mif2go
> .Export the FM book and Word file to PDF. Perform a PDF comparison.
>
>   

Program Reminder

[Karen L. Zorn]

Just a reminder. Registration closes Sunday, February 8, 2009.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
President, STC Phoenix


Leveraging Web 2.0 and Cloud Computing in Technical Communication
with Adobe Software

In today's Web 2.0 world, the Internet has connected all of us and 
consumer experiences have become richer than ever with access to dynamic 
and interactive information and its unlikely people will ever be 
satisfied with anything else and that includes technical information.

Working is no longer a solo experience, but rather a social one, which 
means that peer collaboration and real-time screen sharing, for example, 
are now essential. This virtual meeting will provide an Adobe technology 
update and demonstrate how the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
leverages various innovative Adobe technologies, such as Adobe AIR, 
Acrobat Collaboration tools and our new Cloud Computing story to enable 
Technical Communicators to redefine the way they communicate. Don't miss it!


  About the Presenter, RJ Jacquez

RJ Jacquez is a Senior Product Evangelist at Adobe Systems for Technical 
Communication and eLearning. With over fifteen years of experience, 
Jacquez is instrumental in addressing customer requirements and market 
trends in future releases of Adobe applications. Before joining Adobe, 
Jacquez was the VP of Technology at Quadralay Corporation and Product 
Manager at eHelp Corporation where he spearheaded the development of an 
innovative software application, RoboHelp for FrameMaker, which extended 
FrameMaker's publishing capabilities. In addition, RJ was a Senior 
Product Evangelist for Macromedia, Inc., where he promoted both 
Captivate and RoboHelp.

RJ is an active blogger at http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez 
http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=6624256msgid=178671act=4X2Fc=181563admin=0destination=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.adobe.com%2Frjacquez,
 
and has lectured extensively on various topics, including 
single-sourcing, ePublishing, eLearning, Delivering Richer Technical 
Documents, Help Authoring, XML, DITA, S1000D and SPL.


  Virtual Meeting Details

*Cost*: $10, PayPal only
*Event Date/Time:* 5 p.m. MST (Arizona, GMT -7) Tuesday, February 10, 2009
*Registration Deadline: *Noon, Sunday February 8, 2009

*Register Online: *To register and pay for the web-based meeting, go to: 
http://www.stc-phoenix.com/events/virtual-meeting-registration-form 
http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=6624256msgid=178671act=4X2Fc=181563admin=0destination=..%2F..%2F..%2F..%2F..%2Fwww.stc-phoenix.com%2Fevents%2Fvirtual-meeting-registration-form.
 
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Just a reminder. Registration closes Sunday, February 8, 2009.

Karen L. Zorn
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President, STC Phoenix


Leveraging Web 2.0 and Cloud Computing in Technical Communication
with Adobe Software

In today's Web 2.0 world, the Internet has connected all of us and 
consumer experiences have become richer than ever with access to dynamic 
and interactive information and its unlikely people will ever be 
satisfied with anything else and that includes technical information.

Working is no longer a solo experience, but rather a social one, which 
means that peer collaboration and real-time screen sharing, for example, 
are now essential. This virtual meeting will provide an Adobe technology 
update and demonstrate how the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 
leverages various innovative Adobe technologies, such as Adobe AIR, 
Acrobat Collaboration tools and our new Cloud Computing story to enable 
Technical Communicators to redefine the way they communicate. Don't miss it!


  About the Presenter, RJ Jacquez

RJ Jacquez is a Senior Product Evangelist at Adobe Systems for Technical 
Communication and eLearning. With over fifteen years of experience, 
Jacquez is instrumental in addressing customer requirements and market 
trends in future releases of Adobe applications. Before joining Adobe, 
Jacquez was the VP of Technology at Quadralay Corporation and Product 
Manager at eHelp Corporation where he spearheaded the development of an 
innovative software application, RoboHelp for FrameMaker, which extended 
FrameMaker's publishing capabilities. In addition, RJ was a Senior 
Product Evangelist for Macromedia, Inc., where he promoted both 
Captivate and RoboHelp.

RJ is an active blogger at http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez 
<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=6624256=178671=4X2F=181563=0=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.adobe.com%2Frjacquez>,
 
and has lectured extensively on various topics, including 
single-sourcing, ePublishing, eLearning, Delivering Richer Technical 
Documents, Help Authoring, XML, DITA, S1000D and SPL.


  Virtual Meeting Details

*Cost*: $10, PayPal only
*Event Date/Time:* 5 p.m. MST (Arizona, GMT -7) Tuesday, February 10, 2009
*Registration Deadline: *Noon, Sunday February 8, 2009

*Register Online: *To register and pay for the web-based meeting, go to: 
http://www.stc-phoenix.com/events/virtual-meeting-registration-form 
<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=6624256=178671=4X2F=181563=0=..%2F..%2F..%2F..%2F..%2Fwww.stc-phoenix.com%2Fevents%2Fvirtual-meeting-registration-form>.
 
Please be sure to enter an email address you monitor frequently as you 
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Re: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful 
opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now 
Adobe is creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure 
there a pricing opportunity to be had.


I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new 
eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but


Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
Flash in eLearning and CS4.
PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a 
standalone copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.


Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

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New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new AdobeeLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been an Adobe user for eons, and granted, the suites are wonderful 
opportunities to get related software as excellent prices. BUT, now 
Adobe is creating crossover amongst the suites, and I'm not so sure 
there a pricing opportunity to be had.

I've been looking at upgrading my CS2 to CS4 and FM7 to TC2, and the new 
eLearning Suite is ve tempting, but

Acrobat 9 is in all 3.
Captivate is in TC and eLearning.
Flash in eLearning and CS4.
PhotoShop is in eLearning and CS4.
Dreamweaver is in eLearning and CS4.
The unique s/w in TC is FM and RoboHelp which I need for clients.
In eLearning: Presenter and Soundbooth.
In CS4: InDesign, Illustrator, and Fireworks.


Since I rarely use Illustrator, I probably could just purchase a 
standalone copies of Fireworks and InDesign, if that is possible.

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

Re: ANN: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new Adobe eLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I'm the President of the STC Phoenix chapter, and I couldn't be happier. 
We booked RJ to be our presenter for our Tuesday, February 2009 virtual 
meeting, so there's great timing for this new release. You can read more 
about the presentation at: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7qdy36. *More 
information will follow, so save the link! And, the price is right: 
$10/connection!


Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

President, STC Phoenix

RJ Jacquez wrote:

*** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***



Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced the 
availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
Suitehttp://www.adobe.com/products/elearningsuite/ and the second version of the 
Technical Communication Suitehttp://www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite/, 
version 2.

Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
4http://www.adobe.com/products/captivate/, FrameMaker 
9http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/ and RoboHelp 
8http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/ and I will provide more information on these 
individual products in upcoming blog posts.

Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that I 
have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in all of 
these new releases:

Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
Suitehttp://my.adobe.acrobat.com/introducingels/

What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
2http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/

What's New in Adobe Captivate 4http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newincp4/

Sincerely,

RJ Jácquez
Senior Product Evangelist
Adobe Technical Communication Suite
Adobe eLearning Solutions
http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez


  
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ANN: New Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and new Adobe eLearning Suite

[Karen L. Zorn]

I'm the President of the STC Phoenix chapter, and I couldn't be happier. 
We booked RJ to be our presenter for our Tuesday, February 2009 virtual 
meeting, so there's great timing for this new release. You can read more 
about the presentation at: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7qdy36. *More 
information will follow, so save the link! And, the price is right: 
$10/connection!

Karen L. Zorn
ZornTech LLC
Mesa, AZ

President, STC Phoenix

RJ Jacquez wrote:
> *** I work for Adobe Systems, Inc. ***
>
>
>
> Hi All, I'm extremely excited to share with you that today we have announced 
> the availability of two major Adobe Suites, the new Adobe eLearning 
> Suite<http://www.adobe.com/products/elearningsuite/> and the second version 
> of the Technical Communication 
> Suite<http://www.adobe.com/technicalcommunicationsuite/>, version 2.
>
> Furthermore, we are also announcing the availability of Adobe Captivate 
> 4<http://www.adobe.com/products/captivate/>, FrameMaker 
> 9<http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/> and RoboHelp 
> 8<http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp/> and I will provide more 
> information on these individual products in upcoming blog posts.
>
> Over the next few days, I will be blogging actively on what's new in all of 
> these products, but for now, here are some links to various recordings that I 
> have put together to help our customers learn what's new and exciting in all 
> of these new releases:
>
> Introducing the Adobe eLearning 
> Suite<http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/introducingels/>
>
> What's New in the Adobe Technical Communication 
> 2<http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newintcs2/>
>
> What's New in Adobe Captivate 4<http://my.adobe.acrobat.com/newincp4/>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> RJ J?cquez
> Senior Product Evangelist
> Adobe Technical Communication Suite
> Adobe eLearning Solutions
> http://blogs.adobe.com/rjacquez
>
>
>   

RE: Easiest way to migrate from one FM template to another

[Karen L. Zorn]

You might also try TemplateMapper from Cudspan, if you can get in contact
with Chris.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:23 AM
To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Easiest way to migrate from one FM template to another

Hallo, Verner:

There are several options for doing this.

1. FrameScript (Rick Quatro will surely chime in on this one... :-)
2. Paragraph Tools and Character Tools from Silicon Prairie
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
3. ToolBox from Systec http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php 

There might be a couple of others, but I have used all three of the ones
listed here.  The easiest is probably Paragraph Tools from Silicon
Prairie.

Regards,
Carla
 
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[Karen L. Zorn]

You might also try TemplateMapper from Cudspan, if you can get in contact
with Chris.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:23 AM
To: Andersen, Verner Engell VEA; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Easiest way to migrate from one FM template to another

Hallo, Verner:

There are several options for doing this.

1. FrameScript (Rick Quatro will surely chime in on this one... :-)
2. Paragraph Tools and Character Tools from Silicon Prairie
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
3. ToolBox from Systec http://www.systec-gmbh.com/en/sites/toolbox.php 

There might be a couple of others, but I have used all three of the ones
listed here.  The easiest is probably Paragraph Tools from Silicon
Prairie.

Regards,
Carla

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A delicate question

[Karen L. Zorn]

Better than STC salary survey, which I believe is sadly out of date, check
www.salary.com or the US labor department web site. Those numbers seem more
accurate.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:56 AM
To: Christine Beck
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: Re: A delicate question

I'd check the STC salary survey...  stc.org, although it may be in a
protected area and you'd have to have a member send you a copy.

Art

On 10/4/07, Christine Beck  wrote:
>
> I hope this is an appropriate forum for this, but who else do I ask?
>
> Does anyone know the current going rate (contract/hourly) for a Sr. Tech
> Writer (20 yrs. experience) in the San Francisco Bay area these
> days?
>
> Thanks everyone.
>
> BTW, I love this forum!
>
> Chris Beck
>
>
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RE: Update all files in a Book with a Paragraph Format?

[Karen L. Zorn]

Are you using a variable? If so, you should easily be able update the variable 
in one file, then apply it to the book. 

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amy Harvey
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:39 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Update all files in a Book with a Paragraph Format?


Is there a way to update all files in a book with a specific paragraph format?

We have a Para Tag called Revision which marks the revision number in the 
footer of the document.

When we go to a new revision, we've bee importing the paragraph format into 
each file in the book... thus having to open each file individually and either 
change the master page (where the tage is stored) or change the paragraph tag 
itself with the correct Rev Number.

Any way to do this for example, like a global property, etc?

Thanks

AM Harvey
Enercon Services, Inc.




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Does anyone have an EDD for the Bible?

[Karen L. Zorn]

-- Is it Friday already?

Bodvar

Ah, but so refreshing on this 113+ day!

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Update all files in a Book with a Paragraph Format?

[Karen L. Zorn]

Are you using a variable? If so, you should easily be able update the variable 
in one file, then apply it to the book. 

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

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From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of 
Amy Harvey
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 1:39 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Update all files in a Book with a Paragraph Format?


Is there a way to update all files in a book with a specific paragraph format?

We have a Para Tag called "Revision" which marks the revision number in the 
footer of the document.

When we go to a new revision, we've bee importing the paragraph format into 
each file in the book... thus having to open each file individually and either 
change the master page (where the tage is stored) or change the paragraph tag 
itself with the correct Rev Number.

Any way to do this for example, like a global property, etc?

Thanks

AM Harvey
Enercon Services, Inc.

RE: Chapter Numbering in the Table of Contents

[Karen L. Zorn]

Set the numbering properties in the book, not the individual files. Book
numbering properties override chapter number properties. If FM 6+, make sure
you are using the $chapnum building block.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

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Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Chapter Numbering in the Table of Contents

Hi All,

I'm back for more great advice...

I am having a problem getting my chapter numbering right in the table of
contents of one of my manuals.  Right now, it thinks Chapter 1 is Chapter 9,
Chapter 2 is Chapter 10 and so on.  I have made sure that each chapter is
numbered correctly under FormatDocumentNumbering, and the chapter numbers
are correct in other places to which they are referred (page numbering that
includes the chapnum, etc.)  I am at a loss for other places where this
information might be stored in the document.  Any suggestions are welcome!

Molly


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Chapter Numbering in the Table of Contents

[Karen L. Zorn]

Set the numbering properties in the book, not the individual files. Book
numbering properties override chapter number properties. If FM 6+, make sure
you are using the <$chapnum> building block.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Molly Keegan
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:50 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Chapter Numbering in the Table of Contents

Hi All,

I'm back for more great advice...

I am having a problem getting my chapter numbering right in the table of
contents of one of my manuals.  Right now, it thinks Chapter 1 is Chapter 9,
Chapter 2 is Chapter 10 and so on.  I have made sure that each chapter is
numbered correctly under Format>Document>Numbering, and the chapter numbers
are correct in other places to which they are referred (page numbering that
includes the chapnum, etc.)  I am at a loss for other places where this
information might be stored in the document.  Any suggestions are welcome!

Molly

RE: Hyperlink marker gotcha to be aware of

[Karen L. Zorn]

An excellent work around is www.tinyurl.com. 


Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ



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Hyperlink marker gotcha to be aware of

[Karen L. Zorn]

An excellent work around is www.tinyurl.com. 


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RE: Acrobat 8 Email-based Reviews

[Karen L. Zorn]

I use the email review feature with the STC Phoenix chapter newsletter,
Rough Draft. The first review is named month-commenting.pdf. If we need a
second round, I generate another PDF, then name that file
month-commenting-2.pdf. and send that out. We haven't had any problems and
it works beautifully. BTW this is in Acrobat 7.

Karen L. Zorn
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Hi all-
 
This is a tad off-topic but if anyone can answer this, it's you all. Does
anyone use the email-based review feature in Acrobat? If so, how do you send
an updated draft once the first round of comments has been incorporated and
the PDF regenerated? I've R'edTFOH, and of course it's not as helpful as the
name would have you think. Thanks for any help on this -Lin
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Acrobat 8 Email-based Reviews

[Karen L. Zorn]

I use the email review feature with the STC Phoenix chapter newsletter,
Rough Draft. The first review is named "month-commenting.pdf." If we need a
second round, I generate another PDF, then name that file
"month-commenting-2.pdf." and send that out. We haven't had any problems and
it works beautifully. BTW this is in Acrobat 7.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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Of Lin Surasky
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:23 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: OT: Acrobat 8 Email-based Reviews


Hi all-

This is a tad off-topic but if anyone can answer this, it's you all. Does
anyone use the email-based review feature in Acrobat? If so, how do you send
an updated draft once the first round of comments has been incorporated and
the PDF regenerated? I've R'edTFOH, and of course it's not as helpful as the
name would have you think. Thanks for any help on this -Lin
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Way OT for Friday: Introducing new media to users

[Karen L. Zorn]

This needs the "No tea, coffee, or other beverage in the mouth" warning
before opening! Thank goodness I work at home!

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Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 5:55 AM
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Subject: Way OT for Friday: Introducing new media to users



<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjVeRbhtRU>

-- 
Steve
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RE: Chapter Problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

Sam Beard wrote: 

The current one deals with Chapter Name and Chapter Number tags. I have a
book file with three chapters and one introduction chapter. The Chapter
Number tag is coded as such: C:Chapter\ n+. This SHOULD be starting the
chapter numbers at 1 for the first one and incrementing as they go along. I
also have selected a tag of Chapter Name to be the follow-up paragraph.
However, in the template, as a test, the next paragraph tag after pressing
Enter is another Chapter Number tag. 

1. Change your paragraph format to C:Chapter $chapnum
2. In the Paragraph Designer, Basic tab, make sure the Next Pgf Tag is set
to Chapter Name. Be sure you have the box checked.
3. Set chapter numbering in the Book window. 

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Chapter Problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

Sam Beard wrote: 

>The current one deals with Chapter Name and Chapter Number tags. I have a
book file with three chapters and one introduction chapter. The Chapter
Number tag is coded as such: C:Chapter\ <n+>. This SHOULD be starting the
chapter numbers at 1 for the first one and incrementing as they go along. I
also have selected a tag of Chapter Name to be the follow-up paragraph.
However, in the template, as a test, the next paragraph tag after pressing
Enter is another Chapter Number tag. 

1. Change your paragraph format to "C:Chapter <$chapnum>"
2. In the Paragraph Designer, Basic tab, make sure the Next Pgf Tag is set
to Chapter Name. Be sure you have the box checked.
3. Set chapter numbering in the Book window. 

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat Pro 7
Windows XP
 
I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?
 
Karen L. Zorn
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Mesa, AZ
 
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RE: Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.

Works in FM, not PDF

* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?

Running 7.0.8, so fully updated

* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?

It seems that the email links are the ones that fail. Some work, some don't.
I went into the PDF and checked all converted links, then added the ones
that were missing. Frankly, this is a royal pain. But, if that's what it
takes!

Thanks all for the suggestions and help.

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Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

FrameMaker 7.2
Acrobat Pro 7
Windows XP

I'm running into problems with hypertext mailto: links. If the email addy
has a period, underscore, or dash in it, only the addy after that mark
appears on the To: line when executed from the PDF. Any ideas?

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Hypertext link problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

* Does the problem happen in FrameMaker, with Ctrl+Alt+Click, or only in 
the PDF? If the hyperlink works correctly in FrameMaker, it's likely a 
bug in Acrobat's parsing of the addresses.

Works in FM, not PDF

* Is your Acrobat 7 updated fully? Have you tried with earlier releases 
of Reader, like 6, 5, etc?

Running 7.0.8, so fully updated

* Have you tried not making the addresses as hyperlinks in FrameMaker, 
and turning on the Acrobat (and Reader) 7.x preference to detect links? 
Any difference?

It seems that the email links are the ones that fail. Some work, some don't.
I went into the PDF and checked all converted links, then added the ones
that were missing. Frankly, this is a royal pain. But, if that's what it
takes!

Thanks all for the suggestions and help.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

Hypertext Marker: Message URL

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been using the message URL hypertext marker in a newsletter I publish
in PDF. When readers who open the file in the browser window click a link,
the destination replaces the PDF in the browser window. Is there any code
that can be added to the message url www.whatever.com to cause the link to
open in another instance of the browser window?
 
Karen L. Zorn
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Mesa, AZ
 
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Hypertext Marker: Message URL

[Karen L. Zorn]

I've been using the message URL hypertext marker in a newsletter I publish
in PDF. When readers who open the file in the browser window click a link,
the destination replaces the PDF in the browser window. Is there any code
that can be added to the "message url www.whatever.com" to cause the link to
open in another instance of the browser window?

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

RE: Frame 7.2 Acrobat Standard 6

[Karen L. Zorn]

You need the Professional version to get Acrobat Distiller.

Karen L. Zorn
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Subject: Frame 7.2  Acrobat Standard 6


I've never run Acrobat Standard, always Professional. Does anyone know if
you can generate PDFs from Frame 7.2 if you have only Acrobat Standard 6.0? 

Thx. 

 

 

 

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need FrameMaker 7.0 and 7.1 feature lists

[Karen L. Zorn]

On 8/16/06, John Posada  wrote:
> Upgrades are usualy around $249, not $600-700.
>
> What have I done? paid the $249.
>

I just paid $199 to upgrade from 7.0.  Didn't want to do it, but client
requirements forced it. Wow, multiple undo. 

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RE: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of ContentsInclude Paragraphs Tagged

[Karen L. Zorn]

If you have a previous TOC version that you like:

1. Generate new TOC. Save the file and close.
2. Open old TOC. Save As new TOC file name.
3. Regenerate TOC.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:45 PM
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Subject: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of
ContentsInclude Paragraphs Tagged


Hi, guys...sorry for the long subject line, but..

OK...follow along..I have a book with 5 new files. They've had their styles
imported from a template file or previous product file.

When I generate a new TOC in the book, I get the Set Up Table of Contents
dialog, and all the styles appear in the Don't Include pane on the right.
What I'm trying to do is get the xxTOC styles to appear on the left pane
(Include Paragraphs tagged) without having to move them over individualy.

How can I do this?



John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
actually known what the question is.
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How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"

[Karen L. Zorn]

If you have a previous TOC version that you like:

1. Generate new TOC. Save the file and close.
2. Open old TOC. Save As new TOC file name.
3. Regenerate TOC.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of John Posada
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:45 PM
To: List, Framers
Subject: How do I get TOC styles to appear in Setup Table of
Contents"Include Paragraphs Tagged"


Hi, guys...sorry for the long subject line, but..

OK...follow along..I have a book with 5 new files. They've had their styles
imported from a template file or previous product file.

When I generate a new TOC in the book, I get the Set Up Table of Contents
dialog, and all the styles appear in the Don't Include pane on the right.
What I'm trying to do is get the xxTOC styles to appear on the left pane
(Include Paragraphs tagged) without having to move them over individualy.

How can I do this?



John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
actually known what the question is."
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RE: I want a numbered list with alphabetized substeps

[Karen L. Zorn]

Karyn wrote:
Is there any way to make the two operate independently of one another 
while still allowing the layout to utilize the entire width of the page?

You need to distinguish the different numbering styles using Series Labels.
For example, a Numbered format is: S:n+., which results in 1., 2., and so
on. For the alphabetic list s:a+., a., b., c.

Use series labeling for all numbering formats. For example, I use S and s
for numeric and alphabetic lists. T for tables, F for figures.

From FM 7.1 Help: 
Series label

Series labels identify different types of autonumber series within the same
text flow. For example, if you want to number figures independently of
tables or headings, you would specify a different series for each. (But each
set of steps, for example, would not be a different series.)

On the other hand, table and figure numbers must all be in the same series
to be based on section numbers. 

Unfortunately, the current Help file is of little use. See if you can find
the printed documentation for an older FM version, the explanations are
better. Also, look in Adobe Classroom in a Book, The Complete Reference
FrameMaker 7, or FrameMaker 6, The Master Series.

Karen L. Zorn
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I want a numbered list with alphabetized substeps

[Karen L. Zorn]

Karyn wrote:
>Is there any way to make the two operate independently of one another 
>while still allowing the layout to utilize the entire width of the page?

You need to distinguish the different numbering styles using Series Labels.
For example, a Numbered format is: S:., which results in 1., 2., and so
on. For the alphabetic list s:., a., b., c.

Use series labeling for all numbering formats. For example, I use S and s
for numeric and alphabetic lists. T for tables, F for figures.

Plugin to map styles

[Karen L. Zorn]

CudSpan Tools, Template Mapper

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of John Posada
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:13 PM
To: List, Framers
Subject: Plugin to map styles


Hi, guys...we may have a bunch of books where we are switching over from our
styls to ones used in corporate.

Most of the styles map fine...in fact, I was surprised at the number that
did. However, there are a few where the style names are either just slightly
off (Warning -> WARNING, Bullet ->Bulleted) or the names must be completely
swapped (Body Indented -> Indented).

Somewhere in my toolbox on my other laptop, I beleieve I have some plugins
that allow styles to be mapped. However, I'm interested in the current state
of the art plugins for this purpose. Anyone have a favorite?

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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Adding another heading to the TOC

[Karen L. Zorn]

With the book file selected, Edit >Set Up Table of Contents, then move the
format to the Include list.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Karen Mardahl
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:28 PM
To: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Adding another heading to the TOC


Hi

Frame 7.1p116, WinXP

I've gotten myself confused, so I need some help.

I have a TOC with only 3 headings.

I added a Heading 4 to the other files in the .book. Now I need that to show
up in the TOC.

What I have done:
* Added a "Heading 4TOC" (to match the other 3 levels) in the Paragraph
designer for the TOC.
* Added the layout info to the Reference page.
* Updated the PDF info for the document to say take 4 headings.

I have only done this once before, and that was to a legacy doc with all
sorts of garbage floating about. My memory fails me. This is a clean
template and I don't want to mess things up. I did not create the TOC
layout.

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RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

[Karen L. Zorn]

If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of
the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is 
$649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get full new versions of Adobe
Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version
Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos. So you get both Photoshop
and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program
like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the
covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. John

And Adobe Acrobat Professional! 

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Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator

[Karen L. Zorn]

>If you plan to get one of them, you might consider getting both as part of
the Adobe Creative Suite 2. On the Adobe website, Photoshop is 
>$649, and CS2 is $250 more at $899, but you get "full new versions of Adobe
Photoshop CS2, Illustrator CS2, and InDesign CS2 software with new Version
Cue CS2, Adobe Bridge, and Adobe Stock Photos." So you get both Photoshop
and Illustrator, and InDesign as well. InDesign is a page layout program
like Pagemaker - it is what I use for making our installation poster, the
covers for our printed manuals, and a quick-reference card. John

And Adobe Acrobat Professional! 

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

RE: Dumb, obvious question

[Karen L. Zorn]

Sorry, Bob, you can't apply conditions to character tags. 8 You can find
the character tag then manually apply the condition.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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Subject: Dumb, obvious question


At least I hope it is. Using Frame 7 on Windows, I want to take all text
that uses a particular character tag, make it conditional, and hide it. I'm
pretty sure I've done this before, but I can't remember, or figure out, how
to do it again.

How do I apply a condition to a character tag?

Thanks.

Bob
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Dumb, obvious question

[Karen L. Zorn]

Sorry, Bob, you can't apply conditions to character tags. 8 You can find
the character tag then manually apply the condition.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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Of Robert Shelton
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 3:11 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Dumb, obvious question


At least I hope it is. Using Frame 7 on Windows, I want to take all text
that uses a particular character tag, make it conditional, and hide it. I'm
pretty sure I've done this before, but I can't remember, or figure out, how
to do it again.

How do I apply a condition to a character tag?

Thanks.

Bob
"Love people. Use things. Not vice-versa." -- Kelly Rothaus
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RE: FrameMaker on Mac, NPR Talk of the Nation

[Karen L. Zorn]

Today's NPR Talk of the Nation is discussing the Mac and Windows OS. If the
broadcast time has past for your time zone, you can listen to program over
the web (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=5). 

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Bill Briggs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on Mac


Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are

Art

On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
 Bill Briggs wrote:
 At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
 in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker 
 user
 
 I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight 
 face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker collateral on my Mac and 
 it's a profoundly unpleasant time to be a FrameMaker user. Yeah, it 
 works, but with the end in sight it's almost painful to create new 
 documents with it. The lack of an OS X version of FrameMaker is the 
 most annoying computing issue I've had in more than a decade.
 
 
 Don't know if it will be good news to mac users or not... but it was 
 reported in the paper today that Apple Computer Inc. released new 
 software yesterday that lets users of its newest computers run 
 Microsoft Corp.'s dominant Windows XP operating system.
 
 (and therefore Windows versions of FM)
 
 http://tinyurl.com/lfp96
 
 I'll leave the mac users to sort out their reactions to that one...

 This is preferable to a dual boot scenario. 
 http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php

 - web

 P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of 
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FrameMaker on Mac, NPR Talk of the Nation

[Karen L. Zorn]

Today's NPR Talk of the Nation is discussing the Mac and Windows OS. If the
broadcast time has past for your time zone, you can listen to program over
the web (http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=5). 

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Bill Briggs
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: FrameMaker on Mac


Too bad Jobs isn't as much a Mac fanatic as Mac fanatics are

Art

On 4/6/06, Bill Briggs  wrote:
> At 12:41 PM -0400 4/6/06, Stuart Rogers wrote:
> >Bill Briggs wrote:
> >>At 6:02 PM -0700 4/5/06, RJ Jacquez wrote:
> >>>in general I believe that this is a great time to be a FrameMaker 
> >>>user
> >>
> >>I'm surprised that a Mac user can say such a thing with a straight 
> >>face. I've got 13 years worth of FrameMaker collateral on my Mac and 
> >>it's a profoundly unpleasant time to be a FrameMaker user. Yeah, it 
> >>works, but with the end in sight it's almost painful to create new 
> >>documents with it. The lack of an OS X version of FrameMaker is the 
> >>most annoying computing issue I've had in more than a decade.
> >>
> >
> >Don't know if it will be good news to mac users or not... but it was 
> >reported in the paper today that "Apple Computer Inc. released new 
> >software yesterday that lets users of its newest computers run 
> >Microsoft Corp.'s dominant Windows XP operating system."
> >
> >(and therefore Windows versions of FM)
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/lfp96
> >
> >I'll leave the mac users to sort out their reactions to that one...
>
> This is preferable to a dual boot scenario. 
> http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/04/06/parallels/index.php
>
> - web
>
> P.S. But I still want a Native version. Virtualization is the spawn of 
> evil. ___
>

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Running H/F Variables, Alternate Values

[Karen L. Zorn]

I have two Heading 1 formats in my template: "h1_heading 1" and
"h1np_heading 1 new page." There is need for both formats to avoid over
rides. What is the formula for the Running H/F so it will display the most
recent Heading 1 text. Once, quite a ways back, someone (John Posoda?)
provided the methodology to do this. It has something to do with a character
(command) between the two format names in the Running H/F.

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Running H/F Variables, Alternate Values

[Karen L. Zorn]

Thank you Pat, and Ann, I just knew it was something very simple! Now, if
only I could solve my flow conumdrum that I posted the other day!

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: Pat Christenson [mailto:pxen...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:34 PM
To: Karen L. Zorn
Subject: Re: Running H/F Variables, Alternate Values


Hi Karen -

It's:

<$paratag[h1_heading 1,h1np_heading 1 new page>

(Put a comma between the 2 tagnames)

Pat

On Mar 22, 2006, at 6:27 PM, Karen L. Zorn wrote:

> I have two Heading 1 formats in my template: "h1_heading 1" and 
> "h1np_heading 1 new page." There is need for both formats to avoid 
> over rides. What is the formula for the Running H/F so it will display the
> most
> recent Heading 1 text. Once, quite a ways back, someone (John Posoda?)
> provided the methodology to do this. It has something to do with a  
> character
> (command) between the two format names in the Running H/F.
>
> Karen L. Zorn
> Zorn Technologies, Inc.
> Mesa, AZ
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RE: Leader Lines

[Karen L. Zorn]

Karyn,

If your TOC template is exactly the way you want it, use the following down
and dirty way to create your TOC with the correct format.

1. Generate the TOC for the document.
2. Save the TOC and close it.
3. Open the TOC template file.
4. File  Save As, overwrite TOC generated in step 1.
5. Update the TOC.


Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Karyn Hunt
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:54 PM
To: framers
Subject: Leader Lines


Hi All,

   I'm drawing a blank and the help system isn't readily giving me the info
I need. I'm sure the info is there, I just can't find it and I'm in a
hurry...

   I have a template TOC with leader lines and a tab setting of 6.375. I've
just generated the TOC for a new book but 1) the leader lines aren't there
and 2) the file is ignoring the tab set and putting the page numbers flush
left to the chapter title text. I've imported the template formats into the
new TOC several times but it's not picking up on the leader lines or the tab
stop. (It's getting the font, font size and indent right, but losing the
info about the leader lines and tabs.) 
   
   What am I doing wrong? Where are my leader lines? And how can I get them
back either a) automatically or b) manually? Are leader lines set in the
paragraph designer? The format designer? The reference page? (In which case
I'm sunk b/c I don't know diddly about how to set up reference pages.)

  I'm on FrameMaker 7.1 with Windows XP and the lone writer in a small shop
with godawful deadlines and a patch due out this week.

Karyn 
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Leader Lines

[Karen L. Zorn]

Karyn,

If your TOC template is exactly the way you want it, use the following "down
and dirty" way to create your TOC with the correct format.

1. Generate the TOC for the document.
2. Save the TOC and close it.
3. Open the TOC template file.
4. File > Save As, overwrite TOC generated in step 1.
5. Update the TOC.


Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Karyn Hunt
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:54 PM
To: framers
Subject: Leader Lines


Hi All,

   I'm drawing a blank and the help system isn't readily giving me the info
I need. I'm sure the info is there, I just can't find it and I'm in a
hurry...

   I have a template TOC with leader lines and a tab setting of 6.375. I've
just generated the TOC for a new book but 1) the leader lines aren't there
and 2) the file is ignoring the tab set and putting the page numbers flush
left to the chapter title text. I've imported the template formats into the
new TOC several times but it's not picking up on the leader lines or the tab
stop. (It's getting the font, font size and indent right, but losing the
info about the leader lines and tabs.) 

   What am I doing wrong? Where are my leader lines? And how can I get them
back either a) automatically or b) manually? Are leader lines set in the
paragraph designer? The format designer? The reference page? (In which case
I'm sunk b/c I don't know diddly about how to set up reference pages.)

  I'm on FrameMaker 7.1 with Windows XP and the lone writer in a small shop
with godawful deadlines and a patch due out this week.

Karyn 
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Flow Problems

[Karen L. Zorn]

I'm designing templates for a new project that have 2 content flows: student
(A), instructor (B). The object is that the instructor content is the left
page, student the right. Before publication, the instructor content is
conditionalized and hidden, then a different master page applied to the even
pages so the resulting student workbook is double sided. Each master page
has a very small (0.017 x 0.017) text frame of the opposite flow in the
upper left corner. 

Should work like a charm, I've done it before--not today! When the
transition is made at the bottom of the flow, it seems that a single
character gets hung up in the frame on the wrong page. I can force the text
using "new page" formats, but that will create problems at production. Any
ideas:

FM7, with latest patch
XP
Fonts, Bookman Old Style and Arial, minimum 10 pts

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

TOC Formatting Problem

[Karen L. Zorn]

John, 

As much as I've tried, the <$chapnum> variable just doesn't want to insert
on the reference page. You have to type it once, then you can copy/paste. 

I've copied a chapter title line from one of my reference pages, works every
time. I removed the character that separated the chapter number and the
text. You can use what ever your style guide calls for.

Chapter <$paranumonly> <$paratext>

You don't need to specify the paragraph tag since you set that up when you
first generate the TOC.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

MadCap Flare Information

[Karen L. Zorn]

If you're going to be in the Phoenix area on Tuesday, March 14, 2006, Mike
Hamilton, VP of Product Management will be the featured speaker. He's
planning on speaking on the future of RoboHelp, what happened to the RH
developers, and the directions of help authoring. Details about the march
meeting will be on the web site in a week or so, www.stc-phoenix.com.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

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[Karen L. Zorn]

If you're going to be in the Phoenix area on Tuesday, March 14, 2006, Mike
Hamilton, VP of Product Management will be the featured speaker. He's
planning on speaking on the future of RoboHelp, what happened to the RH
developers, and the directions of help authoring. Details about the march
meeting will be on the web site in a week or so, www.stc-phoenix.com.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ

RE: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame

[Karen L. Zorn]

Cost. Last I heard Interleaf was thousands per seat, while FM is much, much
less.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Sims, Joseph
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:21 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame


The company I work for uses Frame, Interleaf and Word in three separate
offices. (PC version) Management has requested that we create a uniform
style for documentation starting now. They're expecting us to share content
and presumably document templates. In my opinion, all of us should use
Frame, but the Interleaf users have dug in their heels. It's become a
non-constructive us vs. them conflict. As a result, I need to come up with a
list of business reasons why Interleaf is not the correct choice for the
company. 
 
I know of several from prior discussions on the list, but need more.
 
1. IL to PDF conversions can be less straightforward than Frame to PDF
conversions. Does IL generate bookmarks? 2. Translation memory tools don't
support IL, dramatically increasing costs.

3. Interleaf/Quicksilver/Broadvision corp. is far more likely to end up in
Chapter 11 than Adobe. 
4. Frame is more widely used and offers greater compatibility with the rest
of the publishing world. 
 
Does anyone have any additional words of wisdom? Particularly ones that can
have costs assigned to them?
 
Thanks, 
Joe
 
D. Joseph Sims
Technical Documentation
The Gleason Works
1000 University Ave.
Rochester, NY 14692-2970
 
585-784-6969
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Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame

[Karen L. Zorn]

Cost. Last I heard Interleaf was thousands per seat, while FM is much, much
less.

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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Of Sims, Joseph
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:21 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame vs. Quicksilver - Please help me save Frame


The company I work for uses Frame, Interleaf and Word in three separate
offices. (PC version) Management has requested that we create a uniform
style for documentation starting now. They're expecting us to share content
and presumably document templates. In my opinion, all of us should use
Frame, but the Interleaf users have dug in their heels. It's become a
non-constructive us vs. them conflict. As a result, I need to come up with a
list of business reasons why Interleaf is not the correct choice for the
company. 

I know of several from prior discussions on the list, but need more.

1. IL to PDF conversions can be less straightforward than Frame to PDF
conversions. Does IL generate bookmarks? 2. Translation memory tools don't
support IL, dramatically increasing costs.

3. Interleaf/Quicksilver/Broadvision corp. is far more likely to end up in
Chapter 11 than Adobe. 
4. Frame is more widely used and offers greater compatibility with the rest
of the publishing world. 

Does anyone have any additional words of wisdom? Particularly ones that can
have costs assigned to them?

Thanks, 
Joe

D. Joseph Sims
Technical Documentation
The Gleason Works
1000 University Ave.
Rochester, NY 14692-2970

585-784-6969
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POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

[Karen L. Zorn]

Character catalog!

Karen L. Zorn
Zorn Technologies, Inc.
Mesa, AZ


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From: framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+k.zorn=zorntech.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of rebecca officer
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:32 PM
To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com; John Wilcox >> "Joe Malin"  17/01/06 10:07:42 >>>
If the methods are

A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.
C: Create special character formats with meta-information (purpose or
meaning).

then I use C, although it may appear sometimes that I'm using B. While my
brain was recovering from a bad sector, I named a character format "Bold"
rather than "Strong". I also have some formats that use Italic instead of
Emphasis. The horror, the horror!

As Andrew noted, this may result in more tags or elements. Perhaps this is a
good thing, if it makes us re-examine our typographical conventions.

 Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com 
www.tuvox.com 
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Andrew Becraft
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 12:40 PM
To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com 
Subject: Re: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

John Wilcox wrote:
> This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
> off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your 
> time!
>
> A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
> B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.

Or:

C: Create special character formats that indicate the purpose or meaning of
the text (rather than their intended appearance) and apply them.

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TP for FM?

[Karen L. Zorn]

Let's say someone created a FrameMaker edition of
Trivial Pursuit. What knowledge categories would you
expect it to have?

Master pages
Reference pages
Tables
Paragraph and character formats


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