RE: Searching the Framers archives

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Adriana,

Welcome to the list! Art is right about generating hits from other
FrameMaker forums, but doing a site-specific search is also useful for
this list. After typing your search terms, add site:lists.framers.com
(no quotes).

Mike



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:35 AM
To: Adriana Harper
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Searching the Framers archives

The archive for this list has always been hit-or-miss.

Best bet is to Google, because that would include hits from the other
Frame mailing list at omsys.com (freeFrameers) and the Adobe
User-to-User forum. Both of which you may want to join if you're a new
FM user.

Art

Art Campbell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers
apply.
   DoD 358



On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Adriana Harper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,



 I am totally new both to your mailing list, and to Framemaker 8.  I 
 have a bunch of questions, but before I send you those, I was 
 wondering if there is an easy way to search your archives, as I do not

 want to ask questions that have already been previously answered.



 Thank you,

 Adriana Harper






 ADRIANA HARPER
 Technical Writer
 Phone: 403.515.3910
 Fax: 403.515.3919
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 SOLIUM CAPITAL
 1.877.380.7793
 200, 805 - 8th Avenue SW
 Calgary, AB T2P 1H7
 Website: www.solium.com http://www.solium.com/





 ___


 You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 To unsubscribe send a blank email to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 or visit 
 http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma
 il.com

 Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit 
 http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

RE: Searching the Framers archives

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

 
Oops! That's site:lists.frameusers.com!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McCallister,
Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:50 AM
To: Art Campbell; Adriana Harper
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Searching the Framers archives

Adriana,

Welcome to the list! Art is right about generating hits from other
FrameMaker forums, but doing a site-specific search is also useful for
this list. After typing your search terms, add site:lists.framers.com
(no quotes).

Mike



___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Searching the Framers archives

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Adriana,

Welcome to the list! Art is right about generating hits from other
FrameMaker forums, but doing a site-specific search is also useful for
this list. After typing your search terms, add "site:lists.framers.com"
(no quotes).

Mike



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:35 AM
To: Adriana Harper
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Searching the Framers archives

The archive for this list has always been hit-or-miss.

Best bet is to Google, because that would include hits from the other
Frame mailing list at omsys.com (freeFrameers) and the Adobe
User-to-User forum. Both of which you may want to join if you're a new
FM user.

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers
apply.
   DoD 358



On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Adriana Harper
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I am totally new both to your mailing list, and to Framemaker 8.  I 
> have a bunch of questions, but before I send you those, I was 
> wondering if there is an easy way to search your archives, as I do not

> want to ask questions that have already been previously answered.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Adriana Harper
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ADRIANA HARPER
> Technical Writer
> Phone: 403.515.3910
> Fax: 403.515.3919
> Email: adriana.harper at solium.com
>
>
>
> SOLIUM CAPITAL
> 1.877.380.7793
> 200, 805 - 8th Avenue SW
> Calgary, AB T2P 1H7
> Website: www.solium.com 
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
>
>
> You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com.
>
> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.
>
> To unsubscribe send a blank email to
> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
> or visit 
> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gma
> il.com
>
> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit 
> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
>
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Searching the Framers archives

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Oops! That's "site:lists.frameusers.com"!


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of McCallister,
Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:50 AM
To: Art Campbell; Adriana Harper
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Searching the Framers archives

Adriana,

Welcome to the list! Art is right about generating hits from other
FrameMaker forums, but doing a site-specific search is also useful for
this list. After typing your search terms, add "site:lists.framers.com"
(no quotes).

Mike

RE: TOC

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Deirdre,

Rename/backup terrible-looking TOC (just in case).

Close FM

Copy the good-looking TOC file to the folder containing terrible-looking
TOC.

Rename good-looking TOC file so that the filename is IDENTICAL to the
original terrible-looking TOC (not the backup).

Regenerate.

Look at regenerated TOC. Breathe easier, delete backup.

Mike

Mike McCallister
Technical Writer
GE Research Park
414-721-4542 (5-4542)


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Framer's List
Subject: TOC

Hi all:

FM 8.0, Windows XP

*beats weary head against the wall*

I have a template that needs to have the TOC autogenerated.

I autogenerate the TOC, and it looks terrible.

I import formats from a TOC that looks good.

Now, my TOC looks good, except it's drawing its cross-references from
that TOC's book.

The page layout is both 1) giving me the format look I want and 2)
bringing in the other cross-references.

I don't really know how to fix this.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

Deirdre
___


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

TOC

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Deirdre,

Rename/backup terrible-looking TOC (just in case).

Close FM

Copy the good-looking TOC file to the folder containing terrible-looking
TOC.

Rename good-looking TOC file so that the filename is IDENTICAL to the
original terrible-looking TOC (not the backup).

Regenerate.

Look at regenerated TOC. Breathe easier, delete backup.

Mike

Mike McCallister
Technical Writer
GE Research Park
414-721-4542 (5-4542)


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:26 PM
To: Framer's List
Subject: TOC

Hi all:

FM 8.0, Windows XP

*beats weary head against the wall*

I have a template that needs to have the TOC autogenerated.

I autogenerate the TOC, and it looks terrible.

I import formats from a TOC that looks good.

Now, my TOC looks good, except it's drawing its cross-references from
that TOC's book.

The page layout is both 1) giving me the format look I want and 2)
bringing in the other cross-references.

I don't really know how to fix this.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

Deirdre
___

RE: Specifying HTML Colors in FM?

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Ben,

A friend of mine runs a site that covers a lot of ground in web colors,
including this code chart: 

http://www.december.com/html/spec/colorcodes.html

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Hechter
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:37 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Specifying HTML Colors in FM?

Hi Folks,

Is there a way to specify HTML color codes in FM (e.g., #FF)?

Thanks!

Ben Hechter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.semitake.com
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Specifying HTML Colors in FM?

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Ben,

A friend of mine runs a site that covers a lot of ground in web colors,
including this code chart: 

http://www.december.com/html/spec/colorcodes.html

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ben Hechter
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:37 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Specifying HTML Colors in FM?

Hi Folks,

Is there a way to specify HTML color codes in FM (e.g., #FF)?

Thanks!

Ben Hechter
bhechter at objectives.ca
www.semitake.com
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

How FM use impacts purchasing decisions

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

 One other possible (untested) solution: Has anyone tried running FM
under OpenSolaris? Conceivably that would work on an Intel/AMD box, and
could also work virtualized under Linux or MacOS.

FM 7.x apparently works reasonably well in Crossover Linux, the
commercial development of Wine:
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=FrameMaker=
=_start[1]=1_start[2]=1_start[0]=2000_start[3]
=0_start[4]=00_end[1]=6_end[2]=20_end[0]=2008_e
nd[3]=13_end[4]=18=app

Mike McCallister

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:06 AM
To: peter at knowhowpro.com
Cc: FrameUsers List
Subject: Re: How FM use impacts purchasing decisions

I'm hearing Parallels and other solutions for Mac are the workaround for
FM dependency; and SPARC+Solaris is the non-PC environment for FM. I
would be fine without the Windows security updates. I keep auto-update
disabled anyway and let my IT guru selectively install the ones that are
truly needed and proven not to be a Pandora's box. (Color me paranoid,
but I once lost too much time with a Windows update that interfered with
stuff right before a deadline.)

RE: question about open source DTP program

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Deb,

I'm planning to use Scribus to put together a project portfolio to post
on my website and have in PDF form. I played with it quite a bit while
writing openSUSE Linux Unleashed. It is much more stable than it was a
couple years ago, and should work quite well for brochures and such. It
doesn't have the long-document (book-type) features of FrameMaker, but
is good for the PageMaker/InDesign tasks.

HTH,

Mike


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deborah Wible
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:16 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: question about open source DTP program

Hi there.
 
Does anyone who has experience with a free open source DTP program at
www.scribus.net BLOCKED::http://www.scribus.net  care to comment on
it?
For example, is anyone at your company using it for brochures or
collateral?
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

question about open source DTP program

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Deb,

I'm planning to use Scribus to put together a project portfolio to post
on my website and have in PDF form. I played with it quite a bit while
writing "openSUSE Linux Unleashed." It is much more stable than it was a
couple years ago, and should work quite well for brochures and such. It
doesn't have the long-document (book-type) features of FrameMaker, but
is good for the PageMaker/InDesign tasks.

HTH,

Mike


-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deborah Wible
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 7:16 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: question about open source DTP program

Hi there.

Does anyone who has experience with a free open source DTP program at
www.scribus.net   care to comment on
it?
For example, is anyone at your company using it for brochures or
collateral?

How to include font size indicator on formatting toolbar

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

While Syed and Richard are certainly right about applying changes with
the toolbar, there's certainly nothing wrong with having font size
information located at the top of the screen. For me, at least, having a
quick visual cue about this without having to open a Designer window is
a small time (and screen real estate) saver.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:12 PM
To: Combs, Richard; Duncan, Gary; Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: How to include font size indicator on formatting toolbar

> Personally, I think you're better off with that control -- and many 
> others -- turned off. You shouldn't be applying alignment, font, size,

> line spacing, bold, italic, etc., with ad hoc controls; you should be 
> using defined pgf and char tags.

EXACTLY and TOTALLY right! Thank you!

In other applications, the use (mostly overuse) of this capability is
one of the things that I find most irritating ... when people mess with
a particular document (Word documents and Powerpoint presentations are
the worst!) and then expect things to NOT get screwed up when the
template is changed or updated or someone applies the template to the
particular file.

In FrameMaker, the ability to create char tags, and apply them to text
as needed, is a VITAL feature to prevent uncontrolled (usually
accidental and unknowing) changes in the look and feel of text unrelated
to what you might be modifying on the screen you are on.

Z
___

RE: Framemaker Books

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Deirdre,

ABEbooks.com is a great resource for used books, and they have 17 copies
of the Beyond the Basics book (which I found very helpful after
Classroom in a Book). Several of the books are practically free +
shipping. Here's the link:

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?isbn=0735711089sts=tx=0;
y=0

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:34 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Framemaker Books

Hi all:

I know this topic was just covered, and I've searched for it in the
archives, but I'd like also to get your opinions.

I've been told that Framemaker:  Classroom in a Book is an excellent
resource for learning FM.  But on Amazon, the reviews are very poor.

Framemaker 7:  The Complete Reference by O'Keefe has good reviews, but
it doesn't seem to be available anymore.

Framemaker 6: Beyond the Basics by Jahred has outstanding reviews but it
also is no longer available.

Any suggestions?

Deirdre
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

RE: Framemaker Uses

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Now that Rene mentions it ... When I wrote SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed, a
couple years ago, my editors at Sams Publishing said they accepted FM
and Word files, but since it was a Linux book, doing it in Frame wasn't
practical (way too much rebooting involved). For the 2nd edition
(openSUSE Linux Unleashed--in better bookstores everywhere now), I
didn't even think about it.

But I would guess that more than one book from
Sams/Prentice-Hall/Peachpit/whoever else is in that part of the
publishing universe has been written using FrameMaker.

Mike McCallister (Michael on the book covers)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:19 PM
To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
Subject: Re: Framemaker Uses

One would think Vogue would be sourced in Quark... :)}

Does JoAnn Hackos use FM to write her books...?

I know of some who use FM for catalogs, though, as well as others who
write in FM for the airline industry. :-)

 
Rene L. Stephenson



- Original Message 
From: Deirdre Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:04:51 PM
Subject: Framemaker Uses

Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in
Framemaker?

Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component
Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram
Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs.

Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker?  Is Stephen King
writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker?  Does Anna Wintour use
Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there
websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment?

I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what
applications.

Thanks!

Deirdre
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Framemaker Books

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Deirdre,

ABEbooks.com is a great resource for used books, and they have 17 copies
of the "Beyond the Basics" book (which I found very helpful after
"Classroom in a Book"). Several of the books are practically free +
shipping. Here's the link:

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?isbn=0735711089=t=0;
y=0

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Deirdre
Reagan
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:34 AM
To: Frame Users
Subject: Framemaker Books

Hi all:

I know this topic was just covered, and I've searched for it in the
archives, but I'd like also to get your opinions.

I've been told that Framemaker:  Classroom in a Book is an excellent
resource for learning FM.  But on Amazon, the reviews are very poor.

Framemaker 7:  The Complete Reference by O'Keefe has good reviews, but
it doesn't seem to be available anymore.

Framemaker 6: Beyond the Basics by Jahred has outstanding reviews but it
also is no longer available.

Any suggestions?

Deirdre
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Framemaker Uses

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Now that Rene mentions it ... When I wrote "SUSE Linux 10 Unleashed," a
couple years ago, my editors at Sams Publishing said they accepted FM
and Word files, but since it was a Linux book, doing it in Frame wasn't
practical (way too much rebooting involved). For the 2nd edition
("openSUSE Linux Unleashed"--in better bookstores everywhere now), I
didn't even think about it.

But I would guess that more than one book from
Sams/Prentice-Hall/Peachpit/whoever else is in that part of the
publishing universe has been written using FrameMaker.

Mike McCallister ("Michael" on the book covers)

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:19 PM
To: Deirdre Reagan; Frame Users
Subject: Re: Framemaker Uses

One would think Vogue would be sourced in Quark... :)}

Does JoAnn Hackos use FM to write her books...?

I know of some who use FM for catalogs, though, as well as others who
write in FM for the airline industry. :-)


Rene L. Stephenson



- Original Message 
From: Deirdre Reagan 
To: Frame Users 
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:04:51 PM
Subject: Framemaker Uses

Just out of curiosity, what kinds of documents are people producing in
Framemaker?

Our department produces aeronautial documents, such as Component
Maintenance Manuals, Aircraft Maintenance Manuals, Wiring Diagram
Manuals, and Illustrated Parts Catalogs.

Do people produce books and magazines with Framemaker?  Is Stephen King
writing his next masterpiece on Framemaker?  Does Anna Wintour use
Framemaker to kick the next issue of Vogue to the curb? Are there
websites that have been created in a Framemaker environment?

I'm curious to know how widely used this product is and for what
applications.

Thanks!

Deirdre
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

RE: site down

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Although it would certainly be nice if our hosts would make it easier
with the tools Art mentions, a regular Google site search seems to work
nicely.

This syntax generated 291 hits (though not our most recent discussion):

text inset site:lists.frameusers.com

HTH,

Mike 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:52 AM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: site down

Archive searching is an add-on option in Mailman.

The code doesn't include a built-in search tool, but the open source
community has provided several patches that create several flavors of
tools -- if they're installed. Other lists use a free Google Group as an
archive, and there are a number of free (and pay) public sites that also
archive lists. The owners of frameusers.com have elected not to use
these options

Cheers,
Art

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi,

  But did you ever search anything in this archive?
  There is a separate file per month. You cannot  search the whole 
 archive in one go. In my oppinion  not usable.

___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

RE: Learning curve for FrameMaker

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Of course, they should. But (tying this to another thread) if
FrameUsers.com ever came back, perhaps we could start a
list-members-only wiki. I mean, who better than us to start such a
thing?

Mike McCallister

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:30 PM
To: Mike Wickham; Lester C. Smalley; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve
Rickaby
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-)

 
Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lester C. Smalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

 Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here  - that the 
 Frame
 5 manual was the last to be
 produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it

 is a lot better than the current offering (although I've not seen a 
 FrameMaker 8 manual.)

The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't on-- at least, no
hard copy is included or sold separately. Adobe does include a file on
the CD that you can print and bind yourself, but sheesh. It's over 1000
pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking about
sending it off to a POD printer to get a printed/bound copy (split into
two volumes for convenience).

Mike Wickham



___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

site down

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

I just did this recently, and confirmed it works today:

http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers 

It's a web interface to Mailman. The Archives are accessible from here
as well.

Mike

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell
Hoffmann
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:30 PM
To: Bill Swallow; Milan Davidovic
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: site down

Question: with the site down, how does a new user join Frameusers or get
on this list? (I have a friend who's an FDK guru who really needs to
join this group.) I know that there is/was a FAQ on the www site, but
naturally I can't get to it.

FYI -- I know the site was down in Oct / Nov / Dec ... but I didn't
check it weekly, so it may have been back up early this year.

Maxwell Hoffmann
Production Lead
Welocalize

Tel. 503.274.2211
Mob. 301.693.7728
Fax: 503.274.2611
www.welocalize.com


-Original Message-
From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:10 PM
To: Milan Davidovic
Cc: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: site down

Not that I know of. I seem to remember it being sometime last
fall/winter.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Milan Davidovic
 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Bill Swallow
 wrote:
>  > It's been down for months. But never fear, it'll be back up  >  
> "Monday"... We just don't know which Monday yet. ;-)
>
>  Is there an "official" date that it has been down since? Just
curious...

--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users List Owner
Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter
STC Single-Sourcing SIG Manager
http://techcommdood.blogspot.com

___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Learning curve for FrameMaker

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Of course, they should. But (tying this to another thread) if
FrameUsers.com ever came back, perhaps we could start a
list-members-only wiki. I mean, who better than us to start such a
thing?

Mike McCallister

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Stephenson
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 12:30 PM
To: Mike Wickham; Lester C. Smalley; framers at frameusers.com; Steve
Rickaby
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

Maybe the should outsource the manual to someone on this list. ;-)


Rene L. Stephenson




- Original Message 
From: Mike Wickham 
To: Lester C. Smalley ; framers at frameusers.com;
Steve Rickaby 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:00:10 PM
Subject: Re: Learning curve for FrameMaker

> Lester omits to mention what will be known to many here  - that the 
> Frame
> 5 manual was the last to be
> produced by the tech authors at Frame Corp. I have a copy, and yes, it

> is a lot better than the current offering (although I've not seen a 
> FrameMaker 8 manual.)

The FrameMaker 8 manual is worse, because there isn't on-- at least, no
hard copy is included or sold separately. Adobe does include a file on
the CD that you can print and bind yourself, but sheesh. It's over 1000
pages and awkward to print and bind in an office. I'm thinking about
sending it off to a POD printer to get a printed/bound copy (split into
two volumes for convenience).

Mike Wickham



___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as Michael.McCallister at ge.com.

Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com.

To unsubscribe send a blank email to
framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com
or visit
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/michael.mccallister%
40ge.com

Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

RE: Getting FM to recognize Distiller Joboptions files

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Just checking: Was FM closed when you tried to copy the file? I'll
assume that you have admin rights to the computer, too. 

Mike McCallister
Technical Writer
GE Healthcare, Milwaukee Research Park

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wollenberger,
David
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: FrameMaker List
Cc: Benoit, Mary E; Rudolph,Maureen A
Subject: Getting FM to recognize Distiller Joboptions files

Hello all,


I've installed a new joboptions file (capdf8), but I can't get
FrameMaker to recognize it.  That is, if I open Distiller 8.1.0, I see
it in the Default Settings pull-down, and if I search my c:\ drive, I
can find it in c:\Documents and Settings\my username\Application
Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\.

But, in FM 7.1b023, if I click Format, Document, PDF setup, it does not
appear in the PDF Job Options pull-down list on the Settings tab in the
PDF Setup dialog (Format, Document, PDF Settings). I did a search of my
c:\ drive for some of the files that do appear in this pull-down list
and found them in c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\.  

One curious note: One of the files I see in my PDF Job Options pull-down
list within FM is capdf5, which is what I have been using.  When I
searched my c:\ drive for this file, I could not find it.

I thought the solution would be to copy capdf8 from the my username
path to the All Users path, but I got an error message that I Cannot
copy capdf8: Access is denied. I attempted to uncheck the (grayed out)
read-only status of the folders within All Users, but got another error
message saying An error occurred apply attributes to the file: ...
Access is denied..


___


You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To unsubscribe send a blank email to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or visit 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com

Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.

Getting FM to recognize Distiller Joboptions files

[McCallister, Michael (GE Healthcare, consultant)]

Just checking: Was FM closed when you tried to copy the file? I'll
assume that you have admin rights to the computer, too. 

Mike McCallister
Technical Writer
GE Healthcare, Milwaukee Research Park



-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Wollenberger,
David
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:09 AM
To: FrameMaker List
Cc: Benoit, Mary E; Rudolph,Maureen A
Subject: Getting FM to recognize Distiller Joboptions files

Hello all,


I've installed a new joboptions file (capdf8), but I can't get
FrameMaker to recognize it.  That is, if I open Distiller 8.1.0, I see
it in the Default Settings pull-down, and if I search my c:\ drive, I
can find it in c:\Documents and Settings\\Application
Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\.

But, in FM 7.1b023, if I click Format, Document, PDF setup, it does not
appear in the PDF Job Options pull-down list on the Settings tab in the
PDF Setup dialog (Format, Document, PDF Settings). I did a search of my
c:\ drive for some of the files that do appear in this pull-down list
and found them in c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\.  

One curious note: One of the files I see in my PDF Job Options pull-down
list within FM is capdf5, which is what I have been using.  When I
searched my c:\ drive for this file, I could not find it.

I thought the solution would be to copy capdf8 from the 
path to the All Users path, but I got an error message that I "Cannot
copy capdf8: Access is denied." I attempted to uncheck the (grayed out)
read-only status of the folders within All Users, but got another error
message saying "An error occurred apply attributes to the file: ...
Access is denied.".