RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Thanks, Jim! Hello, Schlomo. I checked microtype.com and saw several training classes offered. Any plans on heading toward the southeastern U.S. in the near future? Rene Stephenson _ From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value). This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Of Templates and Legacy Docs
I do have SPS Paragraph Tools and Character Tools, and they're extremely useful and easy to use. Rick Quatro also has a plugin (FindChangeSpecial) that does onesies of condition tag and other changes, as well as a script FindChangeSpecialBatch that allows bulk processing of remapping and deleting all kinds of stuff from paragraph and character formats to variables to condition tags and lots of other stuff, all in one fell swoop. If memory serves, I think it handles cross-references, too (Rick?) There was another post recently about a condition tag remapper that Ian Hawkins is developing that checks to see if the condition is in use. Martin at Golehtek.com has some plugins, too, that you might find useful. HTH Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: Jim Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:20 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: Rene Stephenson; Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs THis link may be useful as well: http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html Pinkham, Jim wrote: Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value). This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. Please... Pretty please with sugar on top Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded: Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... ... _ Change the world with e-mail. Join the i¢m Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 7:06 AM ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
Thanks, Jim! Hello, Schlomo. I checked microtype.com and saw several training classes offered. Any plans on heading toward the southeastern U.S. in the near future? Rene Stephenson _ From: Pinkham, Jim [mailto:jim.pink...@voith.com] Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. Jim
Of Templates and Legacy Docs
I do have SPS Paragraph Tools and Character Tools, and they're extremely useful and easy to use. Rick Quatro also has a plugin (FindChangeSpecial) that does onesies of condition tag and other changes, as well as a script FindChangeSpecialBatch that allows bulk processing of remapping and deleting all kinds of stuff from paragraph and character formats to variables to condition tags and lots of other stuff, all in one fell swoop. If memory serves, I think it handles cross-references, too (Rick?) There was another post recently about a condition tag remapper that Ian Hawkins is developing that checks to see if the condition is in use. Martin at Golehtek.com has some plugins, too, that you might find useful. HTH Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: Jim Owens [mailto:jow...@magma.ca] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 3:20 PM To: Pinkham, Jim Cc: Rene Stephenson; Fred Ridder; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs THis link may be useful as well: http://www.freeframers.org/archive/01/msg01023.html Pinkham, Jim wrote: > Thanks to all for good ideas thus far. I can give a partial answer to Rene's question based on a quick Google search: > > "Participants in the upcoming FrameMaker Template Design seminars receive a license for CudSpan's TemplateMapper plug-in for FrameMaker/Windows ($200 value)." > > This is apparently a current fringe for attending MicroType training, http://www.microtype.com/training/FMTemplateDesign.pdf. > > Jim > > > > > From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:rinnie1 at yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 1:55 PM > To: Fred Ridder; Pinkham, Jim; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Of Templates and Legacy Docs > > > Nope, but you would need to tell him (and the rest of us who have been searching for it for a couple of years now since CudSpan went off-line and Mr. Despopoulos dropped out of virtual visability) how we can purchase it nowadays. > > Please... Pretty please with sugar on top > > > > Rene L. Stephenson > > > - Original Message > Fred Ridder responded: > > Well, I won't go into any discussion of how many hours of your time you > would need to save to pay for the $200 cost of Template Mapper... > ... > _ > Change the world with e-mail. Join the i?m Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as jowens at magma.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.0/1460 - Release Date: 5/22/2008 7:06 AM
RE: Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
-Original Message- From: Christine Beck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't it easier to create a paragraph tag for your Figure Titles? You can use Ctrl M to position them as you wish and save the new tag. All of this assumes that there is a paragraph tag created for the captions, separate from the one holding the anchored frame insertion. I'm sorry that I wasn't clear in my original post. What I'm trying to reinvent (or rediscover) was the way to have flexible indentation of the caption paragraph based on surrounding paragraph tag's indentation. The idea is to keep the paragraph formats centralized and minimal, rather than having to set up 5 different formats just to accommodate figure caption indentation, or having to do manual overrides (CTRL+M) to change the indentation for most captions to various different levels. I don't know if the old templates hinged upon a script or .cfg modification, but it was detailed in a single procedure, like a job aid for the writers, and it worked flawlessly. We only had 1 pgf tag for the fig captions, but following the procedure made it behave in a dynamic manner for indentations. It was a lot faster than doing overrides and a lot cleaner and easier to manage from the template level and during WIP than multiple paragraph tags (and trying to get people to learn/remember which one to use and do all the edit markups associated therewith). It's possible, been done before - I just can't remember HOW and was hoping someone else out there has also done this or can point me to a script or .cfg modification that could be used toward it...or maybe someone lurking on this list worked at that former employer of mine and remembers more! :-) Rene Y'all think I'm crazy or smoking something illegal...but I'm not. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Captions: dynamic or relative indentation for autonumbered paragraph format
-Original Message- From: Christine Beck [mailto:christine_b...@us.xyratex.com] >Isn't it easier to create a paragraph tag for your Figure Titles? You >can use Ctrl M to position them as you wish and save the new tag. All of this assumes that there is a paragraph tag created for the captions, separate from the one holding the anchored frame insertion. I'm sorry that I wasn't clear in my original post. What I'm trying to reinvent (or rediscover) was the way to have flexible indentation of the caption paragraph based on surrounding paragraph tag's indentation. The idea is to keep the paragraph formats centralized and minimal, rather than having to set up 5 different formats just to accommodate figure caption indentation, or having to do manual overrides (CTRL+M) to change the indentation for most captions to various different levels. I don't know if the old templates hinged upon a script or .cfg modification, but it was detailed in a single procedure, like a job aid for the writers, and it worked flawlessly. We only had 1 pgf tag for the fig captions, but following "the procedure" made it behave in a dynamic manner for indentations. It was a lot faster than doing overrides and a lot cleaner and easier to manage from the template level and during WIP than multiple paragraph tags (and trying to get people to learn/remember which one to use and do all the edit markups associated therewith). It's possible, been done before - I just can't remember HOW and was hoping someone else out there has also done this or can point me to a script or .cfg modification that could be used toward it...or maybe someone lurking on this list worked at that former employer of mine and remembers more! :-) Rene "Y'all think I'm crazy or smoking something illegal...but I'm not."
FM to Distiller font problems
Hi All, I have a font (Bullets3.ttf) that is *not* restricted for embedding and that is licensed to us that won't embed. We're using FM 7.2 on Win XP (SP2) w/ Acrobat 7.0.8. The Bullets3 font doesn't even show in the list of fonts to embed in any Distiller dialog boxes on any of the PCs, even though all of them installed the font via Windows Control Panel Fonts, FileAdd new font. This is creating problems with the way our safety notices display, showing a-tilde (which I think is the extended ASCII character in the standard set) rather than the desired graphic from the Bullets3 font. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Rene ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM to Distiller font problems
Hi All, I have a font (Bullets3.ttf) that is *not* restricted for embedding and that is licensed to us that won't embed. We're using FM 7.2 on Win XP (SP2) w/ Acrobat 7.0.8. The Bullets3 font doesn't even show in the list of fonts to embed in any Distiller dialog boxes on any of the PCs, even though all of them installed the font via Windows Control Panel > Fonts, File>Add new font. This is creating problems with the way our safety notices display, showing a-tilde (which I think is the extended ASCII character in the standard set) rather than the desired graphic from the Bullets3 font. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Rene
RE: Generating lists for review
You can use LOM for condition tags. Another bene of using condition tags is that if you have more than one reviewer for a topic, you can apply more than one condition tag to the heading, which you can't do if you use paragraph formats. And, as long as you set all the conditions to show without condition indicators, it wouldn't affect the final output to the customer. Rene Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:22 AM To: Evanth, Henrik Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Generating lists for review To expand on this.. I generate 2 books... One that is What the Customer Sees, and one that has individual chapters for: * Author's Notes (things I need to check/fix/do) * Integrator Notes (things that my downstream writers need to check (such as paths, UI, etc.) * Changed (added/deleted/rewritten) Text notes,, including changed graphics. * List of all graphics * List of all markers (save hypertext) -- useful for seeing the ones that got tagged incorrectly) * Change Note. Overview of large things that have changed (Sort-of a What's New for the app/doc, plus any changes I may have made in terms of new pgf formats, char formats, etc.) You could easily add 4 more LOMS (you will have to rename each to get a distinguishable new one), one for each reviewer. Then just tell the reviewers to look at only their notes. Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A Reuters Company TZ: Mountain (GMT -7) (t) +1 801 270 3180 | (o) +1 801 265 9996| (f) +1 801 265 3999 Get the latest news at Reuters.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:58 AM To: Evanth, Henrik Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Generating lists for review Evanth, Henrik wrote: Hi All, I have a review problem. I have a user guide with hundreds and hundreds of topics like this: Topic a Topic b Topic c Topic d etc Reviewer A should review topics a, c, etc. Reviewer B should review topics a, b, d, etc. Now I want to make it easier for the reviewers and I want to make a list of which topics to review, as all topics are not of interest to all reviewers. I want to auto-generate this list and hopefully this could be possible using the FM functionality of creating lists or indexes. The idea is that FM in some way can identify topic header on a ceratin page and list it under the correct heading/reviewer in the generated list or generated index. The review list should look something like this: Reviewer A: Topic a, page 2 Topic c, page 4 etc. Reviewer B: Topic a, page 2 Topic b, page 3 Topic d, page 5 etc. Reviewer A knows exactly which topics to review, etc. Anyone tried this with FM? Is it possible? Do I have to look into scripting to solve this? I am pretty sure that you have to do some initial work by defining who should define each topic, (using markers?, conditional text?, variables?), but in the end I really would like this to be automated. I'm not sure whether the number of reviewers makes this practical or not, but you could simply create a series of topic heading tags that are identical except for a suffix (or prefix) of A, B, C to indicate Reviewer A, B, or C. Go through your document and tag each topic with one of the new pgf tags. Then generate a temporary TOC for each reviewer, set up to include only their specific tag. Your *real* TOC would be set up to include all the tags. (To make sure you haven't missed any topics, generate a TOC including only your existing tag -- it'll be blank if you've properly retagged all topics, or will hyperlink to any you've missed.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith, 1908-2006 The smartest export Canada ever sent to the United States. Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/grant.hogarth%40reut ers.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. To find out more about Reuters visit www.about.reuters.com Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Reuters Ltd. ___ You are currently
More on Generic Chapters
Caroline, We have a similar setup with our hardware manuals: 2 manuals for each of 4 products, plus a system description, all of which share files. We have achieved single sourcing with a combination of conditional text and variables. We use variables in the headers and footers for the book title and in other book-specific information in the text in the shared files. For the files that can be either appendices or chapters, we product-specific condition tags and other condition tags for the specific type of manual. We tag the H1 Appendix paragraph appropriately for output with the products/types of manuals that use it as an appendix We set the page numbering to read the <$chapnum>, and we set the files to continue chapter numbering from previuos chapter for all but the one appendix which could be A but not a numbered chapter. We have the following directory structure: R:\...\CurrentProduct\CommonFMfiles R:\...\WIP\[writer]\[project] For each book, we create a dummy file that has just the book-specific user variables and conditional text settings. We invested in Rick Quatro's ImportFormatsSpecial plugin, and use it regularly in this process. When it's time to create the output for a book, the writer opens the dummy file for the book and imports just the user variables and conditional text settings across all the files in the book, including the common/shared files. Then, the writer generates the book and creates the output. As long as you have access to the networked folders where the common files are kept whenever you generate the FM book or apply any book-level operations, it doesn't really matter to FM what the directory structure is. Just do whatever makes sense for you and your team. We have found it is more efficient for whoever is generating a book to keep open the shared files that they're using until they have finished the generation/output process. We do that as a gatekeeping issue, so that the .lck file keeps someone else from inadvertently change the shared files before someone finishes their output process. On the deadline days, it takes a little teamwork and coordination between 2 or 3 writers, but that's a small price to pay to be able to leverage single sourcing! We've been doing this for 2 years now, and the writers really love the time (and, therefore, the stress) that it saves them. Good Luck!! Rene Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:29 AM To: Framers List; 1SrcFM at yahoogroups.com Subject: More on Generic Chapters I have another question. I asked about sharing chapter between a number of books 2 of these common chapters are Appendix chapters in 2 books, and regular chapters in another. In order for the ToC to work the way we want (the words Appendix B will appear before the chapter name, instead of chapter 5), they have a heading tag, called AppendixHeading, when they appear as a chapter, they have a different heading style, and the words chapter appear before the chapter name in the ToC How can I make it all work? Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release Date: 6/19/2006
Generating lists for review
You can use LOM for condition tags. Another bene of using condition tags is that if you have more than one reviewer for a topic, you can apply more than one condition tag to the heading, which you can't do if you use paragraph formats. And, as long as you set all the conditions to show without condition indicators, it wouldn't affect the final output to the customer. Rene Stephenson eNovative Solutions, Inc. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:22 AM To: Evanth, Henrik Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Generating lists for review To expand on this.. I generate 2 books... One that is "What the Customer Sees", and one that has individual chapters for: * Author's Notes (things I need to check/fix/do) * Integrator Notes (things that my downstream writers need to check (such as paths, UI, etc.) * Changed (added/deleted/rewritten) Text notes,, including changed graphics. * List of all graphics * List of all markers (save hypertext) -- useful for seeing the ones that got tagged incorrectly) * Change Note. Overview of large things that have changed (Sort-of a "What's New" for the app/doc, plus any changes I may have made in terms of new pgf formats, char formats, etc.) You could easily add 4 more LOMS (you will have to rename each to get a distinguishable new one), one for each reviewer. Then just tell the reviewers to look at only their notes. Grant ___ Grant Hogarth Senior Technical Writer Equis International - A Reuters Company TZ: Mountain (GMT -7) (t) +1 801 270 3180 | (o) +1 801 265 9996| (f) +1 801 265 3999 Get the latest news at Reuters.com -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:58 AM To: Evanth, Henrik Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Generating lists for review Evanth, Henrik wrote: > Hi All, > I have a review problem. I have a user guide with hundreds and > hundreds of topics like this: > > Topic a > Topic b > Topic c > Topic d > etc > > Reviewer A should review topics a, c, etc. > Reviewer B should review topics a, b, d, etc. > > Now I want to make it easier for the reviewers and I want to make a > list of which topics to review, as all topics are not of interest to > all reviewers. > I want to auto-generate this list and hopefully this could be possible > using the FM functionality of creating lists or indexes. The idea is > that FM in some way can identify topic header on a ceratin page and > list it under the correct heading/reviewer in the generated list or > generated index. The review list should look something like this: > > Reviewer A: > Topic a, page 2 > Topic c, page 4 > etc. > > Reviewer B: > Topic a, page 2 > Topic b, page 3 > Topic d, page 5 > etc. > > Reviewer A knows exactly which topics to review, etc. > > Anyone tried this with FM? Is it possible? Do I have to look into > scripting to solve this? I am pretty sure that you have to do some > initial work by defining who should define each topic, (using > markers?, conditional text?, variables?), but in the end I really > would like this to be automated. I'm not sure whether the number of reviewers makes this practical or not, but you could simply create a series of topic heading tags that are identical except for a suffix (or prefix) of A, B, C to indicate Reviewer A, B, or C. Go through your document and tag each topic with one of the new pgf tags. Then generate a temporary TOC for each reviewer, set up to include only their specific tag. Your *real* TOC would be set up to include all the tags. (To make sure you haven't missed any topics, generate a TOC including only your existing tag -- it'll be blank if you've properly retagged all topics, or will hyperlink to any you've missed.) HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith, 1908-2006 "The smartest export Canada ever sent to the United States." Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as Grant.Hogarth at reuters.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/grant.hogarth%40reut ers.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: HTML Links Produced by FrameMaker Hypertext Marker
It's produced by WWP. What version (2003/ePub? FM/Word? SE/Pro?) and template (WWH, MS/CHM, DHTML, etc.) are you using? Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:27 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: HTML Links Produced by FrameMaker Hypertext Marker I'm using FM 7.1 to create source files for online help, which is generated by WebWorks ePublisher Pro 9.1. I have a few HTML links to other web sites. In FM, I insert them using the Hypertext marker text: message URL http://www.techpubs.com In the WW help file, the links open in a new browser. We would like them to open inside the help topic window. In the HTML code of the WW help pages, the links specify a target: a href=http://www.techpubs.com; target=_windowTech Pubs/a I remove the target manually or if I change it to _self, the links open within the help window. Obviously, we want to avoid manually editing the help every time it's generated. I've tried adding the target code to the marker text and I've tried inserting the entire link as HTML macro. But to no avail. Frankly, I don't know if the target code is produced by FrameMaker or WebWorks. I'm checking on the WebWorks end of things, but maybe someone on this list knows. Thanks. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 6/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 6/11/2006 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
HTML Links Produced by FrameMaker Hypertext Marker
It's produced by WWP. What version (2003/ePub? FM/Word? SE/Pro?) and template (WWH, MS/CHM, DHTML, etc.) are you using? Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of mbradley at techpubs.com Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 12:27 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: HTML Links Produced by FrameMaker Hypertext Marker I'm using FM 7.1 to create source files for online help, which is generated by WebWorks ePublisher Pro 9.1. I have a few HTML links to other web sites. In FM, I insert them using the Hypertext marker text: message URL http://www.techpubs.com In the WW help file, the links open in a new browser. We would like them to open inside the help topic window. In the HTML code of the WW help pages, the links specify a target: http://www.techpubs.com; target="_window">Tech Pubs I remove the target manually or if I change it to "_self", the links open within the help window. Obviously, we want to avoid manually editing the help every time it's generated. I've tried adding the target code to the marker text and I've tried inserting the entire link as HTML macro. But to no avail. Frankly, I don't know if the target code is produced by FrameMaker or WebWorks. I'm checking on the WebWorks end of things, but maybe someone on this list knows. Thanks. = Mike Bradley www.techpubs.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 6/11/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/361 - Release Date: 6/11/2006
managing condition tags
Don't you just hate it when someone overcomplicates things? SORRY! Yes, I finally remembered that I could get a list of the tags via IOR. However, I still would like to know if there's a tool by which I can delete condition tags at the book level, preferably in a batch process, and ideally providing a way to indicate whether to remap the tag, delete the tagged text, or convert the tagged text to unconditional text. Any ideas? Thanks, Rene S. -Original Message- From: Rene S. [mailto:rinn...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:33 PM To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com' Subject: managing condition tags Is there a similar tool that will clean out the unused condition tags? If not, is there at least a tool, plugin, or FrameScript that can provide a report of all the condition tags used in the book? I think it is possible, because View > Show/Hide Conditional Text does display all the tags in the book. I can use FindChangeFormatsBatch to remap the unnecessary condition tags to different tags or to a single tag, but then I'd have to open each template file to manually delete each unnecessary condition tag, one at a time. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006
managing condition tags
Hi All, First, a big thank you for all the previous answers to my posts! The knowledgebase held by the users of this list is one of my most valuable resources. I have received more time-saving and insightful tips here than anywhere. Our department is growing by leaps and bounds, and we have the opportunity to help set up a new documentation team. We can use our templates as a springboard for the new team, but I would like to clean out all the condition tags and variables that they won't be needing. I have set up a dummy doc in the template book that uses only the condition tags and variables that are needed in the new templates. I then used Toolbox to remove the unused user variables from the book's variable catalog. Now, I'm just left with...what to do to clean out the Conditional Text catalog Is there a similar tool that will clean out the unused condition tags? If not, is there at least a tool, plugin, or FrameScript that can provide a report of all the condition tags used in the book? I think it is possible, because View Show/Hide Conditional Text does display all the tags in the book. I can use FindChangeFormatsBatch to remap the unnecessary condition tags to different tags or to a single tag, but then I'd have to open each template file to manually delete each unnecessary condition tag, one at a time. Surely one of my colleagues has handled this situation adeptly in the past and can point me in the right direction...? Thanks! Rene Stephenson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
managing condition tags
Hi All, First, a big thank you for all the previous answers to my posts! The knowledgebase held by the users of this list is one of my most valuable resources. I have received more time-saving and insightful tips here than anywhere. Our department is growing by leaps and bounds, and we have the opportunity to help set up a new documentation team. We can use our templates as a springboard for the new team, but I would like to clean out all the condition tags and variables that they won't be needing. I have set up a dummy doc in the template book that uses only the condition tags and variables that are needed in the new templates. I then used Toolbox to remove the unused user variables from the book's variable catalog. Now, I'm just left with...what to do to clean out the Conditional Text catalog Is there a similar tool that will clean out the unused condition tags? If not, is there at least a tool, plugin, or FrameScript that can provide a report of all the condition tags used in the book? I think it is possible, because View > Show/Hide Conditional Text does display all the tags in the book. I can use FindChangeFormatsBatch to remap the unnecessary condition tags to different tags or to a single tag, but then I'd have to open each template file to manually delete each unnecessary condition tag, one at a time. Surely one of my colleagues has handled this situation adeptly in the past and can point me in the right direction...? Thanks! Rene Stephenson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006
one picture in a file is landscape
If I couldn't find a way to get the graphic to fit onto a portrait page at all, I think I'd set up a landscape master page to use for that page and then set Acrobat to auto-rotate pages individually. Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:34 AM To: Framers List Subject: one picture in a file is landscape In a file, one graphic will be landscape (in an anchored frame), And then I will of course have to make a PDF. How do I go about inserting the graphic and printing it to PDF? Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer Fax: +972 3 6474681 Email: caroline at radcom.com www.radcom.com www.protocols.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005
RE: FM bloat (NO PDF) - RESOLUTION
Thank you to all who responded! Your tips for troubleshooting put me on the path to the resolution. As it turns out, the problem is with the way Corel Draw handles color transparencies (tints) when it exports to other formats. That's why I was having the problem regardless of whether it was exported as a JPG/TIFF/EPS/etc. So even editing the maker.ini to replace FrameVector with BMP (DIB) didn't do the trick. But you guys helped me rule out all the possibilities until the culprit was apparent. THANK YOU So now we'll be using one of Adobe's CS solutions to source the graphic instead. ;-) Rene -Original Message- From: Paul Findon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: FM bloat (NO PDF) On 5 Dec 2005, at 15:38, Rene S. wrote: Thanks, Joe, I checked, but that's not the problem. I still can't figure out what's making this FM file bloat to over 25 MB when I insert a JPG that's barely over half a MB. This JPG is making the FM file about 41 times the size of the JPG!! Outrageous! Why not convert the file to one of the formats commonly used by publishing professionals, such as EPS or TIFF. Just a thought. Paul http://www.infopage.net/fmforosx/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM PDF bloat
Title: RE: FM > PDF bloat Good thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. Rene -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Grant HogarthSent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:29 PMTo: framers@lists.FrameUsers.comSubject: RE: FM PDF bloat Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size.It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem.Grant ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM bloat (NO PDF)
Thanks, Joe, I checked, but that's not the problem. I still can't figure out what's making this FM file bloat to over 25 MB when I insert a JPG that's barely over half a MB. This JPG is making the FM file about 41 times the size of the JPG!! Outrageous! Help.. anyone? Scratching my head :-\ Rene -Original Message- From: Joe Malin [mailto:jma...@tuvox.com] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:58 PM To: rinnie1 at yahoo.com; framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat Could it be that both of the problems are due to multiple facets? You may have your FM set to create FrameImage facets whenever you copy in a graphic. That may generate two copies of the graphic. Joe TuVox, Inc. 19050 Pruneridge Avenue Suite 150, Cupertino, CA 95014-0715 Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625.1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -- From: framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Rene S. Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 4:55 PM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat I am having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG! Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Rene Stephenson -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051205/5766e649/attachment.html
FM bloat (NO PDF)
Thanks all. FWIW, we had switched from TIF to JPG for this graphic to try to lower the file size. I round-tripped through MIF, and it didn't help. :-\ So I converted the graphic to TIF instead of JPG, once using LZW compression and once using CCITT4 compression, and I still had the same problem. The source file is in Corel Draw. The CDR file is 8 MB. Any other ideas? Thanks, Rene The dull thud you hear is the sound of my head banging on my desktop repeatedly... -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 10:58 AM To: rinnie1 at yahoo.com Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: FM bloat (NO PDF) Rene S. wrote: > Thanks, Joe, I checked, but that's not the problem. I still can't figure > out what's making this FM file bloat to over 25 MB when I insert a JPG > that's barely over half a MB. This JPG is making the FM file about 41 > times the size of the JPG!! Outrageous! > > Help.. anyone? > No idea why it's happening, but the old standby, Save As MIF, might help -- either by cleaning up the file, or by allowing you to examine the MIF for screwy content. Have you tried copying that jpg into an otherwise empty fm doc? Can you change the file format to TIFF or EPS and copy it in? HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers at phoenix-geophysics dot com "Please reinstall the application you want to remove." --Microsoft Windows 'unInstall Specialist' Get Firefox! http://tinyurl.com/8q9c5 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005
FM bloat (NO PDF) - RESOLUTION
Thank you to all who responded! Your tips for troubleshooting put me on the path to the resolution. As it turns out, the problem is with the way Corel Draw handles color transparencies (tints) when it exports to other formats. That's why I was having the problem regardless of whether it was exported as a JPG/TIFF/EPS/etc. So even editing the maker.ini to replace FrameVector with BMP (DIB) didn't do the trick. But you guys helped me rule out all the possibilities until the culprit was apparent. THANK YOU So now we'll be using one of Adobe's CS solutions to source the graphic instead. ;-) Rene -Original Message- From: Paul Findon [mailto:pfin...@infopage.net] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:04 AM To: rinnie1 at yahoo.com Cc: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: FM bloat (NO PDF) On 5 Dec 2005, at 15:38, Rene S. wrote: > Thanks, Joe, I checked, but that's not the problem. I still can't > figure out what's making this FM file bloat to over 25 MB when I > insert a JPG that's barely over half a MB. This JPG is making the FM > file about 41 times the size of the JPG!! Outrageous! Why not convert the file to one of the formats commonly used by publishing professionals, such as EPS or TIFF. Just a thought. Paul <http://www.infopage.net/fmforosx/> -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005
FM > PDF bloat
RE: FM > PDF bloatGood thinking, Grant. A different graphic doesn't cause the problem. It's just THIS graphic, and it's this graphic in multiple formats. Rene -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:29 PM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: FM > PDF bloat Try this proof test -- try putting in a *different* graphic and seeing what that does to the file size. It may not be the graphic, but the anchored frame that is the problem. Grant -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051205/96f75579/attachment.html
\ in cross reference
It makes the space a non-breaking space in the cross reference definition. Rene S. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Gunnar Carlsson Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 6:49 PM To: framers at FrameUsers.com Subject: \ in cross reference Hi, A client asks me to change a cross reference from "<$paranum> <$paratext>" to "<$paranum>\ <$paratext>" What does the \ do? Regards Gunnar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as rinnie1 at yahoo.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005
FM > PDF bloat
I am having a similar problem. I have a 618kb JPG that has to be copied into the doc (can't be ref'd - long story, unusual case), and it balloons the FM file from 299 kb to 25,669kb when I insert that meager 618kb JPG! Any suggestions anyone? Thanks, Rene Stephenson -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Baruch Brodersen Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:25 AM To: framers at lists.FrameUsers.com Subject: FM > PDF bloat I have a Frame file that contains both imports of PDFs of Illustrator graphics and Illustrator files. One of these graphics in particular causes tremendous bloat. That AI (Illustrator) file weighs in at 1.9 MB. The PDF of the same file is a svelte 101 KB. If I import either the Illustrator file or the PDF'd Illustrator file and Save As PDF (standard job option at a measly 600 dpi or even at 1200 dpi) the file balloons out to 11 MB. If I produce a postscript file (from Frame) of the one page containing the graphic, the results are the same. The postscript file is 1.3 MB, which in turn distills into a 12 MB PDF. Bizarre. Any ideas on what to do? Vital statistics: Frame 7.0p579, WinXP Pro SP2, TimeSavers 3.6, Nav Asst. 2.3.2, Forms Asst 1.7. B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 7 0 2 2 8 9 4 1 0 6 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/190 - Release Date: 12/1/2005 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051202/0e0460d7/attachment.html
OT: RE: Graphics Tool functionality
MessageMaybe I missed something with Irfanview. I found a way to print a sheet of thumbnails (which ACDSee also does), but I couldn't find a way to just browse through all the images in a given folder with a full-size or auto-fit display of the graphic in a pane of Irfanview. ACDSee (at least versions 5 and later) does this in a way that allows you to have displayed in one pane all the file properties for all the images in a folder, and then as you select a file in that list, it displays the graphic in a pane of the same window. You aren't limited to viewing/printing thumbnails. I've been looking for any other program that has the browse capabilities, but I haven't found one yet... unless I'm missing something...? Not trashing Irfan, just trying to understand the features. Please do enlighten me. Rene -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+rinnie1=yahoo.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Grant Hogarth Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:24 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com Subject: RE: Graphics Tool functionality Irfan has the same function: File>Thumbnails, and then (if you want) File>Create Contact sheet, which allows you to specify how you want the sheet to appear. Really useful for finding duplicate images, or to have as a "cheat sheet" for picking images out of a library. (Not trashing ACDSee -- I used it for many years, and was quite happy with it.) Gran t -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20051130/45f5cadd/attachment.html
RE: Graphics question
Title: Message I rather likeACDSee - not free, but very inexpensive. http://www.acdsystems.com/ I'm a bit partial to its browsing capabilities, among other things. Rene -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Grant HogarthSent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:59 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: Graphics question Irfanview is my viewer of choice, and pretty much the first app I install on any computer I use. 5-stars plus in my book. Grant -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Irvanview does it for you through its user interface. www.irfanview.de the guy (irfan) is a saint, your shareware donation is dirt cheap. Recommended by tucows, ZDnet, and the Acadamy search committee. -- Original message -- Grant: If you need to do the same operation to the same degree on all the graphics, consider creating a batch process in PhotoShop on a directory of files. You could write the originals to a safe-keeping subfolder, or rename them, while keeping the processed copies in the originallocation. Perhaps SnagIt offers a batch operation, too? At 4:45 PM -0700 11/22/05, Grant Hogarth wrote: Ah well... *sigh* Yes, I can do it in Snagit. I can also do it in Photoshop -- I was just trying to save some time/brain strain. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
