RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiplereleases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[Charles Beck]

It was not meant as a personal attack. I'm sorry you chose to take it
that way.

But I stand by my statement. Adobe does, in fact, have a history of
doing things that way. I've been dealing with Adobe for a long time, and
I have seen it with my own two eyes. And, after all, it makes good
business sense, doesn't it? The fewer retro versions a company has to
deal with, the easier it is for them. And there is also the matter of
keeping the coffers full. 

I meant it not as a condemnation but merely as what I state it to be: a
speculation. As I say, I'm sorry you chose to take offense.

Chuck
 

-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:19 PM
To: Charles Beck; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous
multiplereleases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

Your insinuation that I give my advice wrt/ multiple versions of Acrobat
installed in parallel as an attempt to coerce everyone to keep up with
the latest offering
is highly insulting and couldn't be farther from the truth!

- Dov 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Beck
 Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:23 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous 
 multiplereleases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]
 
 FWIW, what you say should work for Acrobat does work for me now. I 
 have been using this approach for a number of years without any 
 apparent problem. I keep hearing that others have problems, but I have

 no idea specifically what they are--and in any case, I apparently do 
 not.
 
 Is it possible that all the hullaballoo is just Adobe's attempt to 
 coerce everyone to keep up with the latest offering, so they do not 
 have to continue to support older versions any longer than absolutely 
 necessary?
 
 Just wondering...
 Chuck
 
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Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiplereleases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

[Charles Beck]

It was not meant as a personal attack. I'm sorry you chose to take it
that way.

But I stand by my statement. Adobe does, in fact, have a history of
doing things that way. I've been dealing with Adobe for a long time, and
I have seen it with my own two eyes. And, after all, it makes good
business sense, doesn't it? The fewer retro versions a company has to
deal with, the easier it is for them. And there is also the matter of
keeping the coffers full. 

I meant it not as a condemnation but merely as what I state it to be: a
speculation. As I say, I'm sorry you chose to take offense.

Chuck


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:19 PM
To: Charles Beck; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous
multiplereleases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

Your insinuation that I give my advice wrt/ multiple versions of Acrobat
installed in parallel as an "attempt to coerce everyone to keep up with
the latest offering"
is highly insulting and couldn't be farther from the truth!

- Dov 



> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Beck
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:23 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous 
> multiplereleases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]
> 
> FWIW, what you say should work for Acrobat does work for me now. I 
> have been using this approach for a number of years without any 
> apparent problem. I keep hearing that others have problems, but I have

> no idea specifically what they are--and in any case, I apparently do 
> not.
> 
> Is it possible that all the hullaballoo is just Adobe's attempt to 
> coerce everyone to keep up with the latest offering, so they do not 
> have to continue to support older versions any longer than absolutely 
> necessary?
> 
> Just wondering...
> Chuck

RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[Charles Beck]

FWIW, what you say should work for Acrobat does work for me now. I have
been using this approach for a number of years without any apparent
problem. I keep hearing that others have problems, but I have no idea
specifically what they are--and in any case, I apparently do not. 

Is it possible that all the hullaballoo is just Adobe's attempt to
coerce everyone to keep up with the latest offering, so they do not have
to continue to support older versions any longer than absolutely
necessary?

Just wondering...
Chuck
 

Hedley wrote:
-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple
releases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

Tina:

 I would think it would be very difficult to get multiple version 
 working together that do not interfere with each other.

Difficult, but not impossible.  Software manufacturers should not blame
their customers and put problems on their shoulders that can easily (or
difficultly) be solved by the manufacturer.  And difficult is
relative: 
when
you have a near-monopoly of the graphics arts market and are earning
hundreds of millions of dollars, difficult is both easy and cheap.

For a start, when I double-click on
an FM file, FM 7.2 always opens.  So there is no reason why Acrobat
versions cannot do the same -- the last installed has all the registry
pointers directed to this version.  As for toobars and plug-ins, they
could all be installed by the latest installation.

If you wanted to use an older version with a file you would have to
launch 

it and use File  Open, just as I do with FrameMaker 7.0.

Regards,
Hedleyu

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RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiplereleases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[Dov Isaacs]

Your insinuation that I give my advice wrt/ multiple
versions of Acrobat installed in parallel as an attempt
to coerce everyone to keep up with the latest offering
is highly insulting and couldn't be farther from the
truth!

- Dov 

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles Beck
 Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:23 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous 
 multiplereleases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]
 
 FWIW, what you say should work for Acrobat does work for me 
 now. I have been using this approach for a number of years 
 without any apparent problem. I keep hearing that others have 
 problems, but I have no idea specifically what they are--and 
 in any case, I apparently do not. 
 
 Is it possible that all the hullaballoo is just Adobe's 
 attempt to coerce everyone to keep up with the latest 
 offering, so they do not have to continue to support older 
 versions any longer than absolutely necessary?
 
 Just wondering...
 Chuck
 
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Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Dov and all:

> This is a good time, though, to
> repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
> either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
> of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
> on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
> installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
> supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
> about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
> to attempts to have anything more than one version of
> Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
> cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
> previous versions or following the explicit directions of
> the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.

Dov repeats the by now familiar warning about installing and 
using multiple releases of Acrobat.  This has been going on for 
a long time now, so evidently a good number of people have 
good reasons for wanting to retain multiple versions of Acrobat.

Instead of making this the customer's problem (maintaining two 
different releases on different computers and other workarounds)
why not fix it?  If Adobe is in the business of satisfying customer needs, 

it appears that a significant number of customers want this to be 
implemented.

And don't anybody say it can't be done.  We need to go no further than 
our old mate FrameMaker.  I have FrameMaker v. 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 installed 
on my computer and they all co-exist quite happily.  They are there so I 
can 
troubleshoot problems that my colleagues may be having with the particular 

version of FM on their computers.  So, not only can I run all three 
versions 
simultaneously, but when I impatiently double-click the destop icon too 
enthusiastically, I can have multiple launches of the ONE release 
running.

Regards,
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

? MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2006

Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

Tina:

> I would think it would be very difficult to get multiple
> version working together that do not interfere with each other.

Difficult, but not impossible.  Software manufacturers should not blame 
their customers and put problems on their shoulders that can easily (or 
difficultly) be solved by the manufacturer.  And "difficult" is relative: 
when 
you have a near-monopoly of the graphics arts market and are earning 
hundreds of millions of dollars, "difficult" is both easy and cheap.

For a start, when I double-click on 
an FM file, FM 7.2 always opens.  So there is no reason why Acrobat 
versions cannot do the same -- the last installed has all the registry 
pointers directed to this version.  As for toobars and plug-ins, they 
could all be installed by the latest installation.

If you wanted to use an older version with a file you would have to launch 

it and use File > Open, just as I do with FrameMaker 7.0.

Regards,
Hedleyu

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

? MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2006

Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiplereleases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

[Dov Isaacs]

Your insinuation that I give my advice wrt/ multiple
versions of Acrobat installed in parallel as an "attempt
to coerce everyone to keep up with the latest offering"
is highly insulting and couldn't be farther from the
truth!

- Dov 



> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Beck
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:23 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous 
> multiplereleases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]
> 
> FWIW, what you say should work for Acrobat does work for me 
> now. I have been using this approach for a number of years 
> without any apparent problem. I keep hearing that others have 
> problems, but I have no idea specifically what they are--and 
> in any case, I apparently do not. 
> 
> Is it possible that all the hullaballoo is just Adobe's 
> attempt to coerce everyone to keep up with the latest 
> offering, so they do not have to continue to support older 
> versions any longer than absolutely necessary?
> 
> Just wondering...
> Chuck

RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 00:37 -0700 5/11/06, Graeme Forbes wrote:

you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 Pro 
(default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them cohabit 
peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic application.

Ditto here with Acrobat 5 and 6, the former in Classic.

-- 
Steve
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Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[hedley . finger]

Dov and all:

 This is a good time, though, to
 repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
 either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
 of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
 on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
 installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
 supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
 about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
 to attempts to have anything more than one version of
 Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
 cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
 previous versions or following the explicit directions of
 the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.

Dov repeats the by now familiar warning about installing and 
using multiple releases of Acrobat.  This has been going on for 
a long time now, so evidently a good number of people have 
good reasons for wanting to retain multiple versions of Acrobat.

Instead of making this the customer's problem (maintaining two 
different releases on different computers and other workarounds)
why not fix it?  If Adobe is in the business of satisfying customer needs, 

it appears that a significant number of customers want this to be 
implemented.

And don't anybody say it can't be done.  We need to go no further than 
our old mate FrameMaker.  I have FrameMaker v. 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 installed 
on my computer and they all co-exist quite happily.  They are there so I 
can 
troubleshoot problems that my colleagues may be having with the particular 

version of FM on their computers.  So, not only can I run all three 
versions 
simultaneously, but when I impatiently double-click the destop icon too 
enthusiastically, I can have multiple launches of the ONE release 
running.

Regards,
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom
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RE: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0]

[hedley . finger]

Tina:

 I would think it would be very difficult to get multiple
 version working together that do not interfere with each other.

Difficult, but not impossible.  Software manufacturers should not blame 
their customers and put problems on their shoulders that can easily (or 
difficultly) be solved by the manufacturer.  And difficult is relative: 
when 
you have a near-monopoly of the graphics arts market and are earning 
hundreds of millions of dollars, difficult is both easy and cheap.

For a start, when I double-click on 
an FM file, FM 7.2 always opens.  So there is no reason why Acrobat 
versions cannot do the same -- the last installed has all the registry 
pointers directed to this version.  As for toobars and plug-ins, they 
could all be installed by the latest installation.

If you wanted to use an older version with a file you would have to launch 

it and use File  Open, just as I do with FrameMaker 7.0.

Regards,
Hedleyu

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom
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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Graeme Forbes]

Dov wrote:

"The problems that I mention are more prevalent under Windows
than on Mac"

which sounds about right. But although

"even the Mac has issues with such parallel
installations. Some program must respond to double clicks
to open/process files from the user interface"

you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 
Pro (default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them 
cohabit peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic 
application.

Graeme Forbes

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 00:37 -0700 5/11/06, Graeme Forbes wrote:

>you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 Pro 
>(default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them cohabit 
>peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic application.

Ditto here with Acrobat 5 and 6, the former in Classic.

-- 
Steve

Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple releases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]

[Tina Poole]

I would think it would be very difficult to get multiple
version working together that do not interfere with each other.

FrameMaker doesn't not 'touch' other applications. Acrobat
has to work with MS Word, Excel, plus a multitude of other
non-Microsoft and Adobe products. And not only work with it
but be able to plug-in to those applications, e.g. buttons
on toolbars in Word.

We have the same issues with our product which needs to
interface with five or six other applications and any small
change in those applications that we don't know about and
everything it's tears alround...



tina


Tina Poole
MineStar
Information Products and Solutions Division
Caterpillar

PO Box 10606
Adelaide Street
Brisbane Australia

Telephone: +61 7 3329 8134
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Behalf Of hedley.finger at myob.com
Sent: Monday, 6 November 2006 8:24 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; framers at omsys.com
Subject: Acrobatlateral thinking : Implement simultaneous multiple
releases [was "RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0"]


Dov and all:

> This is a good time, though, to
> repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
> either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
> of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
> on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
> installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
> supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
> about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
> to attempts to have anything more than one version of
> Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
> cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
> previous versions or following the explicit directions of
> the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.

Dov repeats the by now familiar warning about installing and
using multiple releases of Acrobat.  This has been going on for
a long time now, so evidently a good number of people have
good reasons for wanting to retain multiple versions of Acrobat.

Instead of making this the customer's problem (maintaining two
different releases on different computers and other workarounds)
why not fix it?  If Adobe is in the business of satisfying customer needs,

it appears that a significant number of customers want this to be
implemented.

And don't anybody say it can't be done.  We need to go no further than
our old mate FrameMaker.  I have FrameMaker v. 7.0, 7.1 and 7.2 installed
on my computer and they all co-exist quite happily.  They are there so I
can
troubleshoot problems that my colleagues may be having with the particular

version of FM on their computers.  So, not only can I run all three
versions
simultaneously, but when I impatiently double-click the destop icon too
enthusiastically, I can have multiple launches of the ONE release
running.

Regards,
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd <http://myob.com/au>
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
<mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom>
Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

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RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Graeme Forbes]

Dov wrote:

The problems that I mention are more prevalent under Windows
than on Mac

which sounds about right. But although

even the Mac has issues with such parallel
installations. Some program must respond to double clicks
to open/process files from the user interface

you can easily set a default. I run Acro5, full version, and Acro7 
Pro (default), on the same machines, but the solution to having them 
cohabit peacefully may be that Acro5 is set to open as a classic 
application.


Graeme Forbes
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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:42 -0800 3/11/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:

>No, Adobe Reader really isn't a "stand-alone program that
>can co-exist in multiple versions."

Ok, fair enough. You should know. It just looks that way on the Mac.

>Installation of Reader includes browser plug-ins, icon-handlers,
>file associations, registry entries, etc. all of which are
>candidates for conflicts.

Yeah, Windows sounds like a real minefield ;-)

>Installation of Reader includes browser plug-ins, icon-handlers,
>file associations, registry entries, etc. all of which are
>candidates for conflicts.

Right.

>For the full Acrobat product, the web is even more tangled with
>PostScript driver plug-ins, port monitors, etc.

Hmmm. Voluntarily 'upgrading' a working Ps workflow sounds risky, as this stuff 
is mission-critical for a lot of people. But then, being on FrameMaker for Mac, 
I'm stuck with the AdobePS driver under Classic - which works ;-)

-- 
Steve

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Gillian Flato]

Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
their website as coming soon.
 

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RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Dov Isaacs]

Expect it very soon. This is a good time, though, to
repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
to attempts to have anything more than one version of
Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
previous versions or following the explicit directions of
the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.
Failure to reboot in a timely fashion results in not all
the old version of Acrobat being fully and properly uninstalled.

Further note: There are incompatibilities between Acrobat 8
and FrameMaker 7.x save as PDF primarily due to Acrobat 8
storing joboption files in a different location and manner
than Acrobat 7. An Adobe Tech Note will come out about this
at some point.

- Dov
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gillian Flato
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:12 AM
 To: framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
 
 Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising 
 it on their website as coming soon.
 
 Thank you,
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RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Gillian Flato]

Dov,

The reason we want our colleagues to upgrade to Reader 8.0, which is the
only software they have on their systems, is because the digital
signature function doesn't work in Reader 7.0. I created a form in
Acrobat Professional 7.0 with a digital signature field. The other Tech
Writers, who have 7.0 Pro as well, can open the form, create a digital
signature for themselves and sign the form.

People who only have Reader 7.0 cannot sign the form. I was told by a
customer service Rep at Adobe that once they get Reader 8.0, they'll be
able to sign the forms I created in 7.0 Pro.

Is this true? 


Thank you,

 
Gillian Flato


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:37 AM
To: Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

Expect it very soon. This is a good time, though, to
repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
to attempts to have anything more than one version of
Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
previous versions or following the explicit directions of
the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.
Failure to reboot in a timely fashion results in not all
the old version of Acrobat being fully and properly uninstalled.

Further note: There are incompatibilities between Acrobat 8
and FrameMaker 7.x save as PDF primarily due to Acrobat 8
storing joboption files in a different location and manner
than Acrobat 7. An Adobe Tech Note will come out about this
at some point.

- Dov
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gillian Flato
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:12 AM
 To: framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
 
 Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising 
 it on their website as coming soon.
 
 Thank you,
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Good info!

But be aware that this link is for Acrobat Pro 8.0 ... not Acrobat Reader 8.0
(like the original requester asked).

Z

Art Campbell wrote:

Press release on the Adobe site dated yesterday 11/02 says immediate
availability.
Eval version is available at:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/tryout.html

Art

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RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:37 -0800 3/11/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:

This is a good time, though, to repeat my warning that you should not attempt 
to have either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions of Reader, 
and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed on a given system.

Why, Dov? Reader, surely, is a stand-alone program that can co-exist happily in 
multiple versions?

 Although it is possible to coerce the installers to do that, it is neither 
 endorsed nor supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear about with 
 regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced to attempts to have anything 
 more than one version of Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system.

I hear you. One version of Acrobat Pro only makes sense, and certainly the 
version of Pro should match the version of Distiller... but Reader? Ok, 7 Pro 
can probably create PDF versions or features that Reader 6 doesn't understand, 
but we can allow for that. Freelances, in particular, often need many tools in 
their tool-chest, and are extremely loath to delete old versions of software 
that might one day be needed.

FWIW, I've had 5 Pro and 6 Pro on a Mac for several years, as well as Reader 7, 
without any apparent ill effects. In fact, I can remember several instances a 
few years back when Distiller 6 would not distill something, but Distiller 5 
would, getting me out of Postscript-error hell.

I can understand why Adobe might not want to support this sort of mix, though.

-- 
Steve
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Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Fred Ridder]

In the interest of helping avoid future confusion, it may be
a good time to point out that since v7.0, Adobe no longer
uses the name Acrobat in connection with the free reader.
The reader is simply Adobe Reader 7.0 or Adobe Reader 8.0.
The name Adobe Acrobat refers to the full tool suite and
also to the reader/editor tool that comes in the full tool
suite.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


From: Syed Zaeem Hosain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: framers@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:49:10 -0800

Good info!

But be aware that this link is for Acrobat Pro 8.0 ... not Acrobat Reader 
8.0

(like the original requester asked).

Z

Art Campbell wrote:

Press release on the Adobe site dated yesterday 11/02 says immediate
availability.
Eval version is available at:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/tryout.html

Art

On 11/3/06, Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
their website as coming soon.


Thank you,


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RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Dov Isaacs]

Not quite right. 

Documents enabled with Acrobat 8 Professional (NOT
any version of Acrobat 7) can be digitally signed by
users of either Reader 7 or Reader 8.

Thus, you need Acrobat 8 Professional for the document
creator and still only need Reader 7 for the colleagues
who need to sign the documents (not that Reader 8 is
a problem or doesn't have some new features - but it 
isn't needed for signatures if they already have Reader 7).

- Dov
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Gillian Flato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:43 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
 
 Dov,
 
 The reason we want our colleagues to upgrade to Reader 8.0, 
 which is the only software they have on their systems, is 
 because the digital signature function doesn't work in Reader 
 7.0. I created a form in Acrobat Professional 7.0 with a 
 digital signature field. The other Tech Writers, who have 7.0 
 Pro as well, can open the form, create a digital signature 
 for themselves and sign the form.
 
 People who only have Reader 7.0 cannot sign the form. I was 
 told by a customer service Rep at Adobe that once they get 
 Reader 8.0, they'll be able to sign the forms I created in 7.0 Pro.
 
 Is this true? 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
  
 Gillian Flato
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RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Dov Isaacs]

Steve,

No, Adobe Reader really isn't a stand-alone program that
can co-exist in multiple versions. 

Installation of Reader includes browser plug-ins, icon-handlers,
file associations, registry entries, etc. all of which are
candidates for conflicts.

The problems that I mention are more prevalent under Windows
than on Mac, but even the Mac has issues with such parallel
installations. Some program must respond to double clicks
to open/process files from the user interface.

For the full Acrobat product, the web is even more tangled with
PostScript driver plug-ins, port monitors, etc.

- Dov

 

 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:54 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; Gillian Flato; framers@FrameUsers.com
 Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
 
 At 09:37 -0800 3/11/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:
 
 This is a good time, though, to repeat my warning that you 
 should not attempt to have either multiple versions of 
 Acrobat, multiple versions of Reader, and/or mixtures of 
 Acrobat and Reader installed on a given system.
 
 Why, Dov? Reader, surely, is a stand-alone program that can 
 co-exist happily in multiple versions?
 
  Although it is possible to coerce the installers to do 
 that, it is neither endorsed nor supported by Adobe. Many, 
 many problems that we hear about with regards to anything PDF 
 ultimately get traced to attempts to have anything more than 
 one version of Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system.
 
 I hear you. One version of Acrobat Pro only makes sense, and 
 certainly the version of Pro should match the version of 
 Distiller... but Reader? Ok, 7 Pro can probably create PDF 
 versions or features that Reader 6 doesn't understand, but we 
 can allow for that. Freelances, in particular, often need 
 many tools in their tool-chest, and are extremely loath to 
 delete old versions of software that might one day be needed.
 
 FWIW, I've had 5 Pro and 6 Pro on a Mac for several years, as 
 well as Reader 7, without any apparent ill effects. In fact, 
 I can remember several instances a few years back when 
 Distiller 6 would not distill something, but Distiller 5 
 would, getting me out of Postscript-error hell.
 
 I can understand why Adobe might not want to support this 
 sort of mix, though.
 
 -- 
 Steve
 
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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Gillian Flato]

Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
their website as coming soon.


Thank you,



 

Gillian Flato

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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Art Campbell]

Press release on the Adobe site dated yesterday 11/02 says "immediate
availability."
Eval version is available at:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/tryout.html

Art

On 11/3/06, Gillian Flato  wrote:
> Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
> their website as coming soon.
>
>
> Thank you,

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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Dov Isaacs]

Expect it very soon. This is a good time, though, to
repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
to attempts to have anything more than one version of
Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
previous versions or following the explicit directions of
the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.
Failure to reboot in a timely fashion results in not all
the old version of Acrobat being fully and properly uninstalled.

Further note: There are incompatibilities between Acrobat 8
and FrameMaker 7.x "save as PDF" primarily due to Acrobat 8
storing joboption files in a different location and manner
than Acrobat 7. An Adobe Tech Note will come out about this
at some point.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Gillian Flato
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:12 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
> 
> Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising 
> it on their website as coming soon.
> 
> Thank you,
> <mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> 
> Gillian Flato

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Gillian Flato]

Dov,

The reason we want our colleagues to upgrade to Reader 8.0, which is the
only software they have on their systems, is because the digital
signature function doesn't work in Reader 7.0. I created a form in
Acrobat Professional 7.0 with a digital signature field. The other Tech
Writers, who have 7.0 Pro as well, can open the form, create a digital
signature for themselves and sign the form.

People who only have Reader 7.0 cannot sign the form. I was told by a
customer service Rep at Adobe that once they get Reader 8.0, they'll be
able to sign the forms I created in 7.0 Pro.

Is this true? 


Thank you,


Gillian Flato


-Original Message-
From: Dov Isaacs [mailto:isa...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:37 AM
To: Gillian Flato; framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

Expect it very soon. This is a good time, though, to
repeat my warning that you should not attempt to have
either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions
of Reader, and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed
on a given system. Although it is possible to coerce the
installers to do that, it is neither endorsed nor
supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear
about with regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced
to attempts to have anything more than one version of
Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system. In some
cases problems occur as the result of not fully uninstalling
previous versions or following the explicit directions of
the uninstaller to reboot as part of the uninstall procedure.
Failure to reboot in a timely fashion results in not all
the old version of Acrobat being fully and properly uninstalled.

Further note: There are incompatibilities between Acrobat 8
and FrameMaker 7.x "save as PDF" primarily due to Acrobat 8
storing joboption files in a different location and manner
than Acrobat 7. An Adobe Tech Note will come out about this
at some point.

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Gillian Flato
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:12 AM
> To: framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
> 
> Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising 
> it on their website as coming soon.
> 
> Thank you,
> <mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com> 
> Gillian Flato


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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Good info!

But be aware that this link is for Acrobat Pro 8.0 ... not Acrobat Reader 8.0
(like the original requester asked).

Z

Art Campbell wrote:
> Press release on the Adobe site dated yesterday 11/02 says "immediate
> availability."
> Eval version is available at:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/tryout.html
> 
> Art
> 
> On 11/3/06, Gillian Flato  wrote:
>> Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
>> their website as coming soon.
>>
>>
>> Thank you,

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Steve Rickaby]

At 09:37 -0800 3/11/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:

>This is a good time, though, to repeat my warning that you should not attempt 
>to have either multiple versions of Acrobat, multiple versions of Reader, 
>and/or mixtures of Acrobat and Reader installed on a given system.

Why, Dov? Reader, surely, is a stand-alone program that can co-exist happily in 
multiple versions?

> Although it is possible to coerce the installers to do that, it is neither 
> endorsed nor supported by Adobe. Many, many problems that we hear about with 
> regards to anything PDF ultimately get traced to attempts to have anything 
> more than one version of Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system.

I hear you. One version of Acrobat Pro only makes sense, and certainly the 
version of Pro should match the version of Distiller... but Reader? Ok, 7 Pro 
can probably create PDF versions or features that Reader 6 doesn't understand, 
but we can allow for that. Freelances, in particular, often need many tools in 
their tool-chest, and are extremely loath to delete old versions of software 
that might one day be needed.

FWIW, I've had 5 Pro and 6 Pro on a Mac for several years, as well as Reader 7, 
without any apparent ill effects. In fact, I can remember several instances a 
few years back when Distiller 6 would not distill something, but Distiller 5 
would, getting me out of Postscript-error hell.

I can understand why Adobe might not want to support this sort of mix, though.

-- 
Steve

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Fred Ridder]

In the interest of helping avoid future confusion, it may be
a good time to point out that since v7.0, Adobe no longer
uses the name "Acrobat" in connection with the free reader.
The reader is simply Adobe Reader 7.0 or Adobe Reader 8.0.
The name Adobe Acrobat refers to the full tool suite and
also to the reader/editor tool that comes in the full tool
suite.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

>From: Syed Zaeem Hosain 
>Reply-To: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net
>To: Art Campbell 
>CC: framers at frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
>Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:49:10 -0800
>
>Good info!
>
>But be aware that this link is for Acrobat Pro 8.0 ... not Acrobat Reader 
>8.0
>(like the original requester asked).
>
>Z
>
>Art Campbell wrote:
>>Press release on the Adobe site dated yesterday 11/02 says "immediate
>>availability."
>>Eval version is available at:
>>http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobatpro/tryout.html
>>
>>Art
>>
>>On 11/3/06, Gillian Flato  wrote:
>>>Anyone know when this is being released? Adobe is advertising it on
>>>their website as coming soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you,

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Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Dov Isaacs]

Not quite right. 

Documents "enabled" with Acrobat 8 Professional (NOT
any version of Acrobat 7) can be digitally signed by
users of either Reader 7 or Reader 8.

Thus, you need Acrobat 8 Professional for the document
creator and still only need Reader 7 for the colleagues
who need to sign the documents (not that Reader 8 is
a problem or doesn't have some new features - but it 
isn't needed for signatures if they already have Reader 7).

- Dov


> -Original Message-
> From: Gillian Flato [mailto:gflato at nanometrics.com] 
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:43 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
> 
> Dov,
> 
> The reason we want our colleagues to upgrade to Reader 8.0, 
> which is the only software they have on their systems, is 
> because the digital signature function doesn't work in Reader 
> 7.0. I created a form in Acrobat Professional 7.0 with a 
> digital signature field. The other Tech Writers, who have 7.0 
> Pro as well, can open the form, create a digital signature 
> for themselves and sign the form.
> 
> People who only have Reader 7.0 cannot sign the form. I was 
> told by a customer service Rep at Adobe that once they get 
> Reader 8.0, they'll be able to sign the forms I created in 7.0 Pro.
> 
> Is this true? 
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
>  
> Gillian Flato

Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0

[Dov Isaacs]

Steve,

No, Adobe Reader really isn't a "stand-alone program that
can co-exist in multiple versions." 

Installation of Reader includes browser plug-ins, icon-handlers,
file associations, registry entries, etc. all of which are
candidates for conflicts.

The problems that I mention are more prevalent under Windows
than on Mac, but even the Mac has issues with such parallel
installations. Some program must respond to double clicks
to open/process files from the user interface.

For the full Acrobat product, the web is even more tangled with
PostScript driver plug-ins, port monitors, etc.

- Dov



> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk] 
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:54 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; Gillian Flato; framers at FrameUsers.com
> Subject: RE: Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.0
> 
> At 09:37 -0800 3/11/06, Dov Isaacs wrote:
> 
> >This is a good time, though, to repeat my warning that you 
> should not attempt to have either multiple versions of 
> Acrobat, multiple versions of Reader, and/or mixtures of 
> Acrobat and Reader installed on a given system.
> 
> Why, Dov? Reader, surely, is a stand-alone program that can 
> co-exist happily in multiple versions?
> 
> > Although it is possible to coerce the installers to do 
> that, it is neither endorsed nor supported by Adobe. Many, 
> many problems that we hear about with regards to anything PDF 
> ultimately get traced to attempts to have anything more than 
> one version of Acrobat or of Reader installed on one system.
> 
> I hear you. One version of Acrobat Pro only makes sense, and 
> certainly the version of Pro should match the version of 
> Distiller... but Reader? Ok, 7 Pro can probably create PDF 
> versions or features that Reader 6 doesn't understand, but we 
> can allow for that. Freelances, in particular, often need 
> many tools in their tool-chest, and are extremely loath to 
> delete old versions of software that might one day be needed.
> 
> FWIW, I've had 5 Pro and 6 Pro on a Mac for several years, as 
> well as Reader 7, without any apparent ill effects. In fact, 
> I can remember several instances a few years back when 
> Distiller 6 would not distill something, but Distiller 5 
> would, getting me out of Postscript-error hell.
> 
> I can understand why Adobe might not want to support this 
> sort of mix, though.
> 
> -- 
> Steve
>