RE: FrameMaker at Kinko's
You can use Final Draft by Quadralay to convert FM docs to an xml format that anyone with their free reader can read and/or mark up. It's similar to the Acrobat 7 Pro setup. Lotsa bucks for the main program, but the reader is free. And I sure hope hat FM never merges with InDesign. The InDesign GUI is just plain awful and the online help is not helpful at ALL. I certainly hope i never have to use it again. Diane -Original Message- From: John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jan 10, 2006 10:55 AM To: Phillip Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameMaker at Kinko's Long ago there was a product called FrameReader that enabled the user to view but not edit .fm files. It was very inexpensive, in the $29.95 area. I remember a printer I worked with in Boston bought it so they could more easily work with my files. These days I have no trouble with sending a PDF to the printer. I send covers and an installation poster as Adobe InDesign or Adobe Illustrator files, but FrameMaker files still have to go as PDF. It is another step to my process, but not an onerous one. In my experience, if there is an issue that would cause a printer to want to tweak my files, there is probably an underlying problem that I want to know about. For example, if the font is a tiny bit different, but different enough to cause a problem in one place that the printer wants to tweak, then it might also cause a problem somewhere else that we won't see until too late. I wonder if a future version of FrameMaker will merge with InDesign? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phillip Norman Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:51 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker at Kinko's I use FrameMaker daily, for letters and a variety of business forms, as documents to receive and organize internet information including FrameUsers threads, and as a flexible receiver of pictures and stories for pdf albums. I find these tasks unbearable in Word, just as writers in this forum find Word unbearable for complex structured documents. My response to the August 2004 FrameMaker Survey was a request that FrameMaker be offered to a much broader market, affording price competition with Word. We should hope to find FrameMaker at Kinko's. I invite a conversation on this subject. Isn't FrameMaker the best word processor? Do others find FrameMaker the best application for albums? I am content with v5.5.6 for what I do, and apologize if I should be aware of existing templates for a broader market, in v7. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker at Kinko's
You can use Final Draft by Quadralay to convert FM docs to an xml format that anyone with their free reader can read and/or mark up. It's similar to the Acrobat 7 Pro setup. Lotsa bucks for the main program, but the reader is free. And I sure hope hat FM never merges with InDesign. The InDesign GUI is just plain awful and the online help is not helpful at ALL. I certainly hope i never have to use it again. Diane -Original Message- >From: John Sgammato >Sent: Jan 10, 2006 10:55 AM >To: Phillip Norman , framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: FrameMaker at Kinko's > >Long ago there was a product called FrameReader that enabled the user to >view but not edit .fm files. It was very inexpensive, in the $29.95 >area. >I remember a printer I worked with in Boston bought it so they could >more easily work with my files. > >These days I have no trouble with sending a PDF to the printer. I send >covers and an installation poster as Adobe InDesign or Adobe Illustrator >files, but FrameMaker files still have to go as PDF. It is another step >to my process, but not an onerous one. > >In my experience, if there is an issue that would cause a printer to >want to tweak my files, there is probably an underlying problem that I >want to know about. For example, if the font is a tiny bit different, >but different enough to cause a problem in one place that the printer >wants to tweak, then it might also cause a problem somewhere else that >we won't see until too late. > >I wonder if a future version of FrameMaker will merge with InDesign? > >-Original Message- >From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata.com at lists.frameusers.com >On Behalf Of Phillip Norman >Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:51 PM >To: framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: FrameMaker at Kinko's > >I use FrameMaker daily, for letters and a variety of business forms, >as documents to receive and organize internet information including >FrameUsers threads, and as a flexible receiver of pictures and stories >for pdf albums. I find these tasks unbearable in Word, just as writers >in this forum find Word unbearable for complex structured documents. >My response to the August 2004 FrameMaker Survey was a request that >FrameMaker be offered to a much broader market, affording price >competition with Word. We should hope to find FrameMaker at Kinko's. > >I invite a conversation on this subject. Isn't FrameMaker the best >word processor? Do others find FrameMaker the best application for >albums? I am content with v5.5.6 for what I do, and apologize if I >should be aware of existing templates for a broader market, in v7. >___ > >
FrameMaker at Kinko's
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 08:38:33 -0800 (GMT-08:00), Diane Gaskill wrote: >You can use Final Draft by Quadralay to convert FM docs >to an xml format that anyone with their free reader can >read and/or mark up. It's similar to the Acrobat 7 Pro >setup. Lotsa bucks for the main program, but the reader >is free. Or, for *way* less, you can use Mif2Go to convert FM docs to Word RTF, that anyone with free OpenOffice, or Star Office, or Word itself can read and mark up. ;-) A large percentage of our customers, even WWP diehards, use Mif2Go for that. -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
FrameMaker at Kinko's
> From: Phillip Norman > Isn't FrameMaker the best word processor? FM has tons of nice features, but I don't consider it a word processor. If it is, it sure ain't the best. Doesn't even have drag-and-drop editing. _ Regards, John Wilcox, Technical Writer Zetron, Redmond in Digest mode
FrameMaker at Kinko's
I use FrameMaker daily, for letters and a variety of business forms, as documents to receive and organize internet information including FrameUsers threads, and as a flexible receiver of pictures and stories for pdf albums. I find these tasks unbearable in Word, just as writers in this forum find Word unbearable for complex structured documents. My response to the August 2004 FrameMaker Survey was a request that FrameMaker be offered to a much broader market, affording price competition with Word. We should hope to find FrameMaker at Kinko's. I invite a conversation on this subject. Isn't FrameMaker the best word processor? Do others find FrameMaker the best application for albums? I am content with v5.5.6 for what I do, and apologize if I should be aware of existing templates for a broader market, in v7.
FrameMaker at Kinko's
Long ago there was a product called FrameReader that enabled the user to view but not edit .fm files. It was very inexpensive, in the $29.95 area. I remember a printer I worked with in Boston bought it so they could more easily work with my files. These days I have no trouble with sending a PDF to the printer. I send covers and an installation poster as Adobe InDesign or Adobe Illustrator files, but FrameMaker files still have to go as PDF. It is another step to my process, but not an onerous one. In my experience, if there is an issue that would cause a printer to want to tweak my files, there is probably an underlying problem that I want to know about. For example, if the font is a tiny bit different, but different enough to cause a problem in one place that the printer wants to tweak, then it might also cause a problem somewhere else that we won't see until too late. I wonder if a future version of FrameMaker will merge with InDesign? -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata@lists.frameusers.com On Behalf Of Phillip Norman Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:51 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameMaker at Kinko's I use FrameMaker daily, for letters and a variety of business forms, as documents to receive and organize internet information including FrameUsers threads, and as a flexible receiver of pictures and stories for pdf albums. I find these tasks unbearable in Word, just as writers in this forum find Word unbearable for complex structured documents. My response to the August 2004 FrameMaker Survey was a request that FrameMaker be offered to a much broader market, affording price competition with Word. We should hope to find FrameMaker at Kinko's. I invite a conversation on this subject. Isn't FrameMaker the best word processor? Do others find FrameMaker the best application for albums? I am content with v5.5.6 for what I do, and apologize if I should be aware of existing templates for a broader market, in v7. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as jsgammato at imprivata.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat a.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameMaker at Kinko's
In the really old days, it was common to print FM files to PostScript files using a PostScript printer driver provided or specified by the print vendor. PDF has changed how print vendors see the world, now. Instead of having to learn zillions of quirky and not-so-quirky applications, they just need to know PDF well. There's more speculation on what could possibly happen regarding a marriage of ID and FM, than the tabloids have on . At 1:55 PM -0500 1/10/06, John Sgammato wrote: >Long ago there was a product called FrameReader that enabled the user to >view but not edit .fm files. It was very inexpensive, in the $29.95 >area. >I remember a printer I worked with in Boston bought it so they could >more easily work with my files. > >These days I have no trouble with sending a PDF to the printer. I send >covers and an installation poster as Adobe InDesign or Adobe Illustrator >files, but FrameMaker files still have to go as PDF. It is another step >to my process, but not an onerous one. > >In my experience, if there is an issue that would cause a printer to >want to tweak my files, there is probably an underlying problem that I >want to know about. For example, if the font is a tiny bit different, >but different enough to cause a problem in one place that the printer >wants to tweak, then it might also cause a problem somewhere else that >we won't see until too late. > >I wonder if a future version of FrameMaker will merge with InDesign? -- Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices peter at knowhowpro.com
