Re: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
At 21:15 -0600 26/12/13, qui...@airmail.net wrote: Did you examine the Logitech software for the mouse? Or is it not installed? Not installed: I use USB Overdrive for all mouse control. I have been using it for years and it's never given me any problems. If you are using only USB Overdrive, then perhaps the usual suspect is to be blamed. Delete the preferences file for USB Overdrive and reset the preferences. I will try this, thanks. However, if there was something amiss there, I'd expect the mouse to misbehave all the time, instead of just very, very rarely. It looks like some bizarre interaction with FrameMaker. But as I'm using a very, very old version, I doubt if I'm going to fox out what's going on unless I get an 'Aha!' moment. One fact, though: the problem is application-specific, to FrameMaker. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
Did you examine the Logitech software for the mouse? Or is it not installed? If you are using only USB Overdrive, then perhaps the usual suspect is to be blamed. Delete the preferences file for USB Overdrive and reset the preferences. Scott T. Steve Rickaby wrote: At 10:14 -0800 20/12/13, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: I am not particularly familiar with the Mac, so these would be real SWAGs: 1. Is it a wireless mouse? No, it's a Logitech wired mouse, standard issue, nothing fancy. And, if so, have you tried changing its batteries? I have seen occasional misbehavior with my wireless mouse when the batteries are low. I agree, which is one reason why I prefer mouses with tails ;-) 2. Does the middle scroll wheel also have a push-button click capability (like mine does)? Or a sideways tilt click? Both. And, if so, is the /software driver set to do an insert when you click the center button? No, I disabled this on purpose, in case of accidental use. An accidental click (sometimes very soft and undetectable with some mice - or old ones) when scrolling is possible. I agree, and your point about mouse wheel sideways click is of interest, as this is in fact the first mouse I've had that has that feature (causing unbounded joy in Excel). I checked, though, and 'wheel left' and 'wheel right' in USBOverdrive are mapped to scroll left and scroll right, universally, so I doubt if it's that. I guess this is either a system bug or a very obscure one in FrameMaker 7 for Mac. Either way, I don't think I'm going to resolve it. It's especially embarrassing, as a client spotted some gibberish in a draft caused by this problem. It would have been picked up by later processes such as proofing, but it still caused a bit of a red face. As it only happens (when it does) when paging forward, it's all too easy to miss the accidental insertion of rubbish into the document. At least I can search for ']'s later and fish them out - it always inserts the ']' ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
At 16:17 + 20/12/13, Harro de Jong wrote: It sounds like another application sees the Cmd-] shortcut and acts on it. Do you have any clipboard management apps? That's a thought. I used QuickKeys, but none of its shortcuts are set to command-]. If they were, that shortcut would trigger every time I did a mouse-wheel-down, so the problem would be instantly obvious. It's the 'only very rarely' incidence that's stumped me. Or, it could be similar to a problem I sometimes have on my Mac: I've got an ancient Apple Extended Keyboard attached via an ADB-to-USB converter. I used to use this setup, but at present I've just using the standard current-model wired keyboard. Occasionally, it will munge some keystrokes. my Mac will come out as my;ac (even though I'm hitting the correct keys). My cats do that for me ;-) Two keystrokes are seen as one if they're typed too quickly. You could try a different keyboard. Well I could, but like all transient (and this is very transient) faults, they're a bummer to pin down. What I do know is that it only occurs in FrameMaker. Thanks for thinking about this. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
I am not particularly familiar with the Mac, so these would be real SWAGs: 1. Is it a wireless mouse? And, if so, have you tried changing its batteries? I have seen occasional misbehavior with my wireless mouse when the batteries are low. 2. Does the middle scroll wheel also have a push-button click capability (like mine does)? Or a sideways tilt click? And, if so, is the /software driver set to do an insert when you click the center button? An accidental click (sometimes very soft and undetectable with some mice - or old ones) when scrolling is possible. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 4:49 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker I'm sounding this out here just in case anyone's ever seen anything similar. FrameMaker 7, Mac, mouse under control of USB Overdrive. I have long - years - had FrameMaker set up such that the mouse wheel scrolls forward/back a page at a time, without problems. The control codes for this in FrameMaker 7 for Mac are command-[ and command-]. The benefit of using these control codes rather than 'page up' and 'page down' is that they also work in dialogs, such as the Paragraph Designer. The problem I'm seeing may be a USB OVerdrive issue and therefore outside the remit of this group, but what's happening is that, only *very* occasionally, for a scroll page down, I get the current contents of the paste buffer followed by the ']' inserted into the text. Which is of course highly undesirable, especially if you don't notice it. This only happens very occasionally, so I can't pin down the exact circumstances. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
At 10:14 -0800 20/12/13, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: I am not particularly familiar with the Mac, so these would be real SWAGs: 1. Is it a wireless mouse? No, it's a Logitech wired mouse, standard issue, nothing fancy. And, if so, have you tried changing its batteries? I have seen occasional misbehavior with my wireless mouse when the batteries are low. I agree, which is one reason why I prefer mouses with tails ;-) 2. Does the middle scroll wheel also have a push-button click capability (like mine does)? Or a sideways tilt click? Both. And, if so, is the /software driver set to do an insert when you click the center button? No, I disabled this on purpose, in case of accidental use. An accidental click (sometimes very soft and undetectable with some mice - or old ones) when scrolling is possible. I agree, and your point about mouse wheel sideways click is of interest, as this is in fact the first mouse I've had that has that feature (causing unbounded joy in Excel). I checked, though, and 'wheel left' and 'wheel right' in USBOverdrive are mapped to scroll left and scroll right, universally, so I doubt if it's that. I guess this is either a system bug or a very obscure one in FrameMaker 7 for Mac. Either way, I don't think I'm going to resolve it. It's especially embarrassing, as a client spotted some gibberish in a draft caused by this problem. It would have been picked up by later processes such as proofing, but it still caused a bit of a red face. As it only happens (when it does) when paging forward, it's all too easy to miss the accidental insertion of rubbish into the document. At least I can search for ']'s later and fish them out - it always inserts the ']' -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bizarre mouse behavior with FrameMaker
Steve Rickaby wrote: ... only *very* occasionally, for a scroll page down, I get the current contents of the paste buffer followed by the ']' inserted into the text. Which is of course highly undesirable, especially if you don't notice it. It sounds like another application sees the Cmd-] shortcut and acts on it. Do you have any clipboard management apps? Or, it could be similar to a problem I sometimes have on my Mac: I've got an ancient Apple Extended Keyboard attached via an ADB-to-USB converter. Occasionally, it will munge some keystrokes. my Mac will come out as my;ac (even though I'm hitting the correct keys). Two keystrokes are seen as one if they're typed too quickly. You could try a different keyboard. Harro de Jong Triview ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
