Re: What next for Mif2Go?

2007-05-07 Thread Art Campbell

My first request -- and the one I'd pay more money for -- would be the
Go2MIF interface, to import Word and other file formats cleanly into
Frame.

My second would be to improve the existing user interface so things
are easier to set up and check, maybe with a logging facility.

Cheers, and thanks for making a great product, Jeremy!

Art

On 5/7/07, Jeremy H. Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Now that we've finished adding DITA support to Mif2Go,
we're in the process of deciding what to do next.  We
have many ideas on the table, but no one of them stands
out as the obvious next place to put our energies.

So we're asking *you*.  What do you want that we don't
already do?  Answer on-list or off, as you please; we
figure it's on-topic for FrameMaker users in general,
but if others don't think so, we can move it off list.

Here are a few of our own ideas, to get the ball rolling:

* Go2Mif, a utility to assist in importing Word, HTML,
and XML files into FrameMaker.  (Yes, we already own
that domain name.  ;-)

* Rtf2Go, the same outputs as Mif2Go, but with a VBA front
end to run in ... Word.  (And we own that domain, too. )

* Logging and reporting facility for Mif2Go, identifying
(and linking to) problematic places in FrameMaker docs
found during conversion.

We have lots more, but what really counts is what *you*
want.  Please do tell us!


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Arabic translations from English FrameMaker files

2007-05-07 Thread Tanya . Griffin
FrameMaker V7.1 (English)
Windows XP Pro SP2 Multi-lingual in Arabic language environment

I am unable to access the archives to view any previous discussions on this
matter.

There are websites out there that suggest you can force FrameMaker to play
the game with Arabic text. I am currently massaging English templates to
use with Arabic text, and having to overcome many obstacles; so far I have
discovered some workarounds to achieve the same end, so I have kept going.
Our biggest obstacle is the random insertion of text (not at the cursor
point), and application of character tags and conditional tags that change
the selected text to something completely different. I am assuming that
this is due to the lack of support for unicode characters. This appears to
be a show-stopper. Has anyone had any success in this field? Are there any
plug-ins available? Is it time to abandon commonsense and resort to Word?

If it can work, does anyone know of an Arabic dictionary that can be
slotted into the file system for use with FrameMaker? Currently I have
assigned None as the language in all paragraph and character tags, but it
would be most useful to assign an Arabic dictionary.

Regards,

Tanya Griffin
Technical Documentation Manager
Codan Limited

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NEWTON SA 5074

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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Judie Vegh
Hello Framers! 

 

I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,
and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down
select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
regenerated. Why is this? 

 

Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
generating blank pages after updating? 

 

Any insight is appreciated!



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Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Bill Swallow

Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to Next Available
if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
page.

On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Framers!



I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,
and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down
select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
regenerated. Why is this?



Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
generating blank pages after updating?



Any insight is appreciated!



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Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Art Campbell

It's probably happening because the chapter in the book _after_ the
one you're playing with is set to start on a specific page, probably a
right hand one. And the program is adding a blank page to Chapter A to
make sure the following Chapter B is paginated correctly.

Also, you don't mention whether you're making the settings in the
chapter files, which only control individual chapters, or on the
component files within the book -- where you want to be making the
changes.

Art

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Hello Framers!



I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,
and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down
select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
regenerated. Why is this?



Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
generating blank pages after updating?



Any insight is appreciated!




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Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Stuart Rogers

Judie Vegh wrote:
Hello Framers! 

 


I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,
and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down
select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
regenerated. Why is this? 



Most likely because you have the following chapter set to start on a 
right hand page, and the content of the previous chapter ends on a right 
hand page.  The blank page must be inserted so there will be a left hand 
page between them.


It's also possible that the last page is not in fact blank. If it has 
even an empty pgf mark or end-of-flow mark, it will not be deleted.  Nor 
if it has a custom master page applied will it be deleted.


 


Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
generating blank pages after updating? 


FrameMaker is famous for doing exactly what it's told ;-)

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Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen O'Brien
This also happens if the last page has a custom 
master page assigned to it. If this is the case, 
assigned the Right master page and then update 
the document, the lagging page will disappear and the document will be chorter.


Good luck.

At 12:13 2007-05-07, Judie Vegh wrote:

Hello Framers!







I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down

to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the

book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,

and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down

select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is

regenerated. Why is this?







Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for

generating blank pages after updating?







Any insight is appreciated!







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OT: Acrobat 8, as part of CS3 Package

2007-05-07 Thread David Spreadbury
Last week, as early as Friday, I was able to create PDFs from Frame using 
Acrobat 8 Distiller with no problems. PDFs came out as expected.
   
  Today I create PDFs and Acrobat drops text and cross-reference links at 
random.
   
  I have not made any changes to my system (Windows XP SP2, 2Gb RAM, Frame 7.2, 
Adobe CS3).
   
  Has anyone else seen this?
   
  Has Adobe, in their infinite wisdom, downloaded a patch that I missed?
   

 
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RE: What next for Mif2Go?

2007-05-07 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Jeremy,

I have been asking for Go2Mif for a lng time and I would REALLY love to
see that one.  Adding Logging and Reporting to that would make one heckuva
package. So you have my vote on these for sure.  I think you could name your
price and we'd buy it.

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Now that we've finished adding DITA support to Mif2Go,
we're in the process of deciding what to do next.  We
have many ideas on the table, but no one of them stands
out as the obvious next place to put our energies.

So we're asking *you*.  What do you want that we don't
already do?  Answer on-list or off, as you please; we
figure it's on-topic for FrameMaker users in general,
but if others don't think so, we can move it off list.

Here are a few of our own ideas, to get the ball rolling:

* Go2Mif, a utility to assist in importing Word, HTML,
and XML files into FrameMaker.  (Yes, we already own
that domain name.  ;-)

* Rtf2Go, the same outputs as Mif2Go, but with a VBA front
end to run in ... Word.  (And we own that domain, too. )

* Logging and reporting facility for Mif2Go, identifying
(and linking to) problematic places in FrameMaker docs
found during conversion.

We have lots more, but what really counts is what *you*
want.  Please do tell us!


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RE: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Diane Gaskill


If the chapter is set to double-sided, does it ignore the Delete Empty pages
setting? It sounds to me that this might be the problem.

Diane



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Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to Next Available
if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
page.

On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Framers!



 I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
 to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
 book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,
 and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down
 select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
 regenerated. Why is this?



 Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
 generating blank pages after updating?



 Any insight is appreciated!



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Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Art Campbell

Diane,

In a stand-alone chapter it may, but in the scenario described, within
a book, the book pagination settings trump each chapter's.

Art

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If the chapter is set to double-sided, does it ignore the Delete Empty pages
setting? It sounds to me that this might be the problem.

Diane



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Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to Next Available
if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
page.

On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Framers!



 I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
 to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
 book of these blank pages, I select Format  Page Layout  Pagination,
 and then Delete Empty Pages in the Before Saving  Printing drop-down
 select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
 regenerated. Why is this?



 Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
 generating blank pages after updating?



 Any insight is appreciated!



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RE: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Judie Vegh
Thank you all for the suggestions! I have realized that the chapters are
set to start on the right, so this is probably what is causing the blank
page to appear. 

Again, thanks! 

- Judie

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RE: Acrobat 8, as part of CS3 Package

2007-05-07 Thread Rush, Jay
Same system properties you describe, Acrobat 8 Pro bundled with CS3
Design Premium Upgrade. Last week, I made a post (Frame 7.2 crashes with
Acrobat 8 Pro) regarding frequent, random crashes. Unlike you, I was
unable to successfully create PDFs from all Frame files. I had success
with some individual files, but almost all book files crashed. In
addition, I also had the same problem you describe: random character
dropouts. In my research, I stumbled on a fix on the Adobe FrameMaker
forum (http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc3265e). Delete this
file (C:\Windows\System32\FNTCACHE.DAT), reboot, try again. Character
dropouts go away for a while, but it might happen so do this
periodically. I don't know of any patches yet.

Any help on Frame crashes with Distiller 8 would be great.

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Last week, as early as Friday, I was able to create PDFs from Frame
using Acrobat 8 Distiller with no problems. PDFs came out as expected.
   
  Today I create PDFs and Acrobat drops text and cross-reference links
at random.
   
  I have not made any changes to my system (Windows XP SP2, 2Gb RAM,
Frame 7.2, Adobe CS3).
   
  Has anyone else seen this?
   
  Has Adobe, in their infinite wisdom, downloaded a patch that I missed?
   

 
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Re: More Elegant Indexing Solution

2007-05-07 Thread Brian Weis

I've already responded to Kevin, and we have a solution that works.


When inserting an index marker for Kevin's tutorial passages, you need to
append the marker text with Emphasis . This would be the only difference
between the regular (or standard) reference and the tutorial references. For
example, using the index entries from Kevin's initial email, the text of the
index marker for the creating new distribution rules tutorial would be:

Distribution Rules:creating new distribution rules Emphasis


I tested this in my own doc by trying to create index entries for a report
description. The first index marker was placed where the description
started. Then I inserted the Emphasis marker where a sample screenshot
occurred. The resulting Index entry looked like this:

sales
return detail lookup 36, *37*

(Yes, the 37 is italicized, but the 36 is not).


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From: Kevin Hunter  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: May 5, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: More Elegant Indexing Solution
To:  framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com

Hi everyone,

I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically
include a tutorial, and the rest of the guide includes reference information
(like for each option on each screen, that type of thing). So the first
section and the last part may have overlapping topics, where in the first
section it's more of a how-to approach, and in the last, it just tells you
what it does.

What I want to do is reflect this elegantly in the index, perhaps by having
one type of reference in italics, and the standard references (to the
reference section of the guide) in normal type. Currently I have a bit of a
cumbersome approach, where in the actual index entries I just put the word
(tutorial) into the ref.

So what I want is tha instead of having this type of thing:

Distribution Rules
creating new distribution rules, 345
creating new distribution rules (tutorial), 47

to have something like

Distribution Rules
 creating new distribution rules, 47, 345

(where the 47 is in italics, not sure if that'll come through when I send
this email).

Then, in my How to Use this Guide section, I'd just have to say once that
the italics indicate references to the tutorial sections.

thanks!

Kevin

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What next for Mif2Go?

2007-05-07 Thread Michael Lewis
Jeremy H. Griffith:

> So we're asking *you*.  What do you want that we don't
> already do?  Answer on-list or off, as you please; we
> figure it's on-topic for FrameMaker users in general,
> but if others don't think so, we can move it off list.

I know (believe, anyway) that FM finds its natural home in the technical
communication community, and I've used it that way -- a lot -- in the past.
But now I use it for academic writing. My chief motivation in obtaining Mif2Go
has nothing to do with generating help or HTML files; I use it to interface
with EndNote, because EndNote needs nice clean RTF. I can't guess at how many
other users, or how many other listers, have similar needs. But I wonder
whether anyone else in the same boat as me has thought about whether Mif2Go
could provide a tighter EndNote interface. (Don't ask me for details; I've no
idea!)


Michael Lewis

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What next for Mif2Go?

2007-05-07 Thread Art Campbell
My first request -- and the one I'd pay more money for -- would be the
Go2MIF interface, to import Word and other file formats cleanly into
Frame.

My second would be to improve the existing user interface so things
are easier to set up and check, maybe with a logging facility.

Cheers, and thanks for making a great product, Jeremy!

Art

On 5/7/07, Jeremy H. Griffith  wrote:
>
> Now that we've finished adding DITA support to Mif2Go,
> we're in the process of deciding what to do next.  We
> have many ideas on the table, but no one of them stands
> out as the obvious next place to put our energies.
>
> So we're asking *you*.  What do you want that we don't
> already do?  Answer on-list or off, as you please; we
> figure it's on-topic for FrameMaker users in general,
> but if others don't think so, we can move it off list.
>
> Here are a few of our own ideas, to get the ball rolling:
>
> * Go2Mif, a utility to assist in importing Word, HTML,
> and XML files into FrameMaker.  (Yes, we already own
> that domain name.  ;-)
>
> * Rtf2Go, the same outputs as Mif2Go, but with a VBA front
> end to run in ... Word.  (And we own that domain, too. )
>
> * Logging and reporting facility for Mif2Go, identifying
> (and linking to) problematic places in FrameMaker docs
> found during conversion.
>
> We have lots more, but what really counts is what *you*
> want.  Please do tell us!
>
>
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> http://www.omsys.com/
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Arabic translations from English FrameMaker files

2007-05-07 Thread tanya.grif...@codan.com.au
FrameMaker V7.1 (English)
Windows XP Pro SP2 Multi-lingual in Arabic language environment

I am unable to access the archives to view any previous discussions on this
matter.

There are websites out there that suggest you can force FrameMaker to play
the game with Arabic text. I am currently massaging English templates to
use with Arabic text, and having to overcome many obstacles; so far I have
discovered some workarounds to achieve the same end, so I have kept going.
Our biggest obstacle is the random insertion of text (not at the cursor
point), and application of character tags and conditional tags that change
the selected text to something completely different. I am assuming that
this is due to the lack of support for unicode characters. This appears to
be a show-stopper. Has anyone had any success in this field? Are there any
plug-ins available? Is it time to abandon commonsense and resort to Word?

If it can work, does anyone know of an Arabic dictionary that can be
slotted into the file system for use with FrameMaker? Currently I have
assigned None as the language in all paragraph and character tags, but it
would be most useful to assign an Arabic dictionary.

Regards,

Tanya Griffin
Technical Documentation Manager
Codan Limited

81 Graves Street
NEWTON SA 5074

Phone:  +61 8 8305 0457
Fax:  +61 8 8305 0411
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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Judie Vegh
Hello Framers! 



I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
book of these blank pages, I select Format > Page Layout > Pagination,
and then Delete Empty Pages in the "Before Saving & Printing" drop-down
select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
regenerated. Why is this? 



Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
generating blank pages after updating? 



Any insight is appreciated!



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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Bill Swallow
Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to "Next Available"
if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
page.

On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh  wrote:
> Hello Framers!
>
>
>
> I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
> to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
> book of these blank pages, I select Format > Page Layout > Pagination,
> and then Delete Empty Pages in the "Before Saving & Printing" drop-down
> select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
> regenerated. Why is this?
>
>
>
> Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
> generating blank pages after updating?
>
>
>
> Any insight is appreciated!
>
>
>
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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Art Campbell
It's probably happening because the chapter in the book _after_ the
one you're playing with is set to start on a specific page, probably a
right hand one. And the program is adding a blank page to Chapter A to
make sure the following Chapter B is paginated correctly.

Also, you don't mention whether you're making the settings in the
chapter files, which only control individual chapters, or on the
component files within the book -- where you want to be making the
changes.

Art

On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh  wrote:
> Hello Framers!
>
>
>
> I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
> to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
> book of these blank pages, I select Format > Page Layout > Pagination,
> and then Delete Empty Pages in the "Before Saving & Printing" drop-down
> select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
> regenerated. Why is this?
>
>
>
> Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
> generating blank pages after updating?
>
>
>
> Any insight is appreciated!
>
>

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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Bill Swallow
Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to "Next Available"
if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
page.

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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Stuart Rogers
Judie Vegh wrote:
> Hello Framers! 
> 
>  
> 
> I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
> to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
> book of these blank pages, I select Format > Page Layout > Pagination,
> and then Delete Empty Pages in the "Before Saving & Printing" drop-down
> select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
> regenerated. Why is this? 
> 

Most likely because you have the following chapter set to start on a 
right hand page, and the content of the previous chapter ends on a right 
hand page.  The blank page must be inserted so there will be a left hand 
page between them.

It's also possible that the last page is not in fact blank. If it has 
even an empty pgf mark or end-of-flow mark, it will not be deleted.  Nor 
if it has a custom master page applied will it be deleted.

>  
> 
> Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
> generating blank pages after updating? 

FrameMaker is famous for doing exactly what it's told ;-)

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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Stephen O'Brien
This also happens if the last page has a custom 
master page assigned to it. If this is the case, 
assigned the Right master page and then update 
the document, the lagging page will disappear and the document will be chorter.

Good luck.

At 12:13 2007-05-07, Judie Vegh wrote:
>Hello Framers!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
>
>to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
>
>book of these blank pages, I select Format > Page Layout > Pagination,
>
>and then Delete Empty Pages in the "Before Saving & Printing" drop-down
>
>select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
>
>regenerated. Why is this?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
>
>generating blank pages after updating?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Any insight is appreciated!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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OT: Acrobat 8, as part of CS3 Package

2007-05-07 Thread David Spreadbury
Last week, as early as Friday, I was able to create PDFs from Frame using 
Acrobat 8 Distiller with no problems. PDFs came out as expected.

  Today I create PDFs and Acrobat drops text and cross-reference links at 
random.

  I have not made any changes to my system (Windows XP SP2, 2Gb RAM, Frame 7.2, 
Adobe CS3).

  Has anyone else seen this?

  Has Adobe, in their infinite wisdom, downloaded a patch that I missed?



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What next for Mif2Go?

2007-05-07 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Jeremy,

I have been asking for Go2Mif for a lng time and I would REALLY love to
see that one.  Adding Logging and Reporting to that would make one heckuva
package. So you have my vote on these for sure.  I think you could name your
price and we'd buy it.

Best regards,

Diane
MTG fan 4 sure
===

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[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:27 PM
To: framers at omsys.com; framers at frameusers.com
Subject: What next for Mif2Go?



Now that we've finished adding DITA support to Mif2Go,
we're in the process of deciding what to do next.  We
have many ideas on the table, but no one of them stands
out as the obvious next place to put our energies.

So we're asking *you*.  What do you want that we don't
already do?  Answer on-list or off, as you please; we
figure it's on-topic for FrameMaker users in general,
but if others don't think so, we can move it off list.

Here are a few of our own ideas, to get the ball rolling:

* Go2Mif, a utility to assist in importing Word, HTML,
and XML files into FrameMaker.  (Yes, we already own
that domain name.  ;-)

* Rtf2Go, the same outputs as Mif2Go, but with a VBA front
end to run in ... Word.  (And we own that domain, too. )

* Logging and reporting facility for Mif2Go, identifying
(and linking to) problematic places in FrameMaker docs
found during conversion.

We have lots more, but what really counts is what *you*
want.  Please do tell us!


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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Diane Gaskill


If the chapter is set to double-sided, does it ignore the Delete Empty pages
setting? It sounds to me that this might be the problem.

Diane



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Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:40 AM
To: Judie Vegh
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book


Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to "Next Available"
if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
page.

On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh  wrote:
> Hello Framers!
>
>
>
> I've recently been updating FrameMaker books that have been handed down
> to me. At the end of some chapters, there is a blank page. To rid the
> book of these blank pages, I select Format > Page Layout > Pagination,
> and then Delete Empty Pages in the "Before Saving & Printing" drop-down
> select list. However, once I update the book, the empty page is
> regenerated. Why is this?
>
>
>
> Is there a problem with the template, or is FrameMaker notorious for
> generating blank pages after updating?
>
>
>
> Any insight is appreciated!
>
>
>
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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Art Campbell
Diane,

In a stand-alone chapter it may, but in the scenario described, within
a book, the book pagination settings trump each chapter's.

Art

On 5/7/07, Diane Gaskill  wrote:
>
>
> If the chapter is set to double-sided, does it ignore the Delete Empty pages
> setting? It sounds to me that this might be the problem.
>
> Diane
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
> Behalf Of Bill Swallow
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:40 AM
> To: Judie Vegh
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book
>
>
> Check the following chapter file's pagination settings. My guess is
> that it's forced to start on a particular page, and the previous file
> has no choice but to add a blank page to make the pagination flow
> properly. Set the following chapter's pagination to "Next Available"
> if you don't care whether the chapter starts on the left or right
> page.
>
> On 5/7/07, Judie Vegh  wrote:
> > Hello Framers!
> >
> >
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Deleted empty pages still reappear after updating the book

2007-05-07 Thread Judie Vegh
Thank you all for the suggestions! I have realized that the chapters are
set to start on the right, so this is probably what is causing the blank
page to appear. 

Again, thanks! 

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Acrobat 8, as part of CS3 Package

2007-05-07 Thread Rush, Jay
Same system properties you describe, Acrobat 8 Pro bundled with CS3
Design Premium Upgrade. Last week, I made a post (Frame 7.2 crashes with
Acrobat 8 Pro) regarding frequent, random crashes. Unlike you, I was
unable to successfully create PDFs from all Frame files. I had success
with some individual files, but almost all book files crashed. In
addition, I also had the same problem you describe: random character
dropouts. In my research, I stumbled on a fix on the Adobe FrameMaker
forum (http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc3265e). Delete this
file (C:\Windows\System32\FNTCACHE.DAT), reboot, try again. Character
dropouts go away for a while, but it might happen so do this
periodically. I don't know of any patches yet.

Any help on Frame crashes with Distiller 8 would be great.

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Subject: OT: Acrobat 8, as part of CS3 Package

Last week, as early as Friday, I was able to create PDFs from Frame
using Acrobat 8 Distiller with no problems. PDFs came out as expected.

  Today I create PDFs and Acrobat drops text and cross-reference links
at random.

  I have not made any changes to my system (Windows XP SP2, 2Gb RAM,
Frame 7.2, Adobe CS3).

  Has anyone else seen this?

  Has Adobe, in their infinite wisdom, downloaded a patch that I missed?



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More Elegant Indexing Solution

2007-05-07 Thread Brian Weis
I've already responded to Kevin, and we have a solution that works.


When inserting an index marker for Kevin's "tutorial" passages, you need to
append the marker text with  . This would be the only difference
between the regular (or standard) reference and the tutorial references. For
example, using the index entries from Kevin's initial email, the text of the
index marker for the "creating new distribution rules" tutorial would be:

Distribution Rules:creating new distribution rules 


I tested this in my own doc by trying to create index entries for a report
description. The first index marker was placed where the description
started. Then I inserted the "" marker where a sample screenshot
occurred. The resulting Index entry looked like this:

sales
 return detail lookup 36, *37*

(Yes, the "37" is italicized, but the "36" is not).


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From: Kevin Hunter < kev...@excelsystems.com>
Date: May 5, 2007 2:03 PM
Subject: More Elegant Indexing Solution
To: " framers at lists.frameusers.com" 

Hi everyone,

I have a series of user guides where the first few chapters typically
include a tutorial, and the rest of the guide includes reference information
(like for each option on each screen, that type of thing). So the first
section and the last part may have overlapping topics, where in the first
section it's more of a how-to approach, and in the last, it just tells you
what it does.

What I want to do is reflect this elegantly in the index, perhaps by having
one type of reference in italics, and the standard references (to the
reference section of the guide) in normal type. Currently I have a bit of a
cumbersome approach, where in the actual index entries I just put the word
(tutorial) into the ref.

So what I want is tha instead of having this type of thing:

Distribution Rules
creating new distribution rules, 345
creating new distribution rules (tutorial), 47

to have something like

Distribution Rules
  creating new distribution rules, 47, 345

(where the 47 is in italics, not sure if that'll come through when I send
this email).

Then, in my How to Use this Guide section, I'd just have to say once that
the italics indicate references to the tutorial sections.

thanks!

Kevin

Kevin Hunter
ExcelSystems Software Development, Inc.
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xref help

2007-05-07 Thread That Darned Writer
Hi, all,

I checked the archives and the power tools list, but didn't find 
anything.

Does anyone of a plugin (or is this a job for Framescript?) that 
would crawl through a document and change cross references from a 
reference to a type=marker to type=paragraph?

We have a reference guide that went from structured to unstructured, 
and now we have several thousand cross references that are looking 
for a marker that's not there.

Surely someone's run into this. Is there any workaround?

Thanks, as always!



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