Re: [Frameworks] Readings on alternative spaces for cinema?

[mary billyou]

Hello,
I've written three articles for The Brooklyn Rail on this subject,
called *Mixed
Use*:

http://marybillyou.com/blog4/writing/

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 9:44 PM Eric Theise  wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Some time ago Benjamin Taylor added three references tagged "microcinema"
> to the Zotero library on experimental cinema.
>
>
> https://www.zotero.org/groups/122679/experimental_cinema/items/q/microcinema
>
> Weirdly there's one newer title tagged "microcinema" that shows up when
> searching my personal copy of the library but not via the website and that
> is
>
>
> https://www.archivebooks.org/2018/12/20/film-in-the-present-tensewhy-cant-we-stop-talking-about-analogue-film/
>
> I'd encourage you (and others) to contribute additional readings you find
> to that library.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 6:05 PM 16mm Directory 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 5:51 PM Chris Freeman <
>> christopherbriggsfree...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Frameworkers, I am looking for some help finding readings about
>>> alternative spaces for cinema, microcinemas, artist-run spaces, warehouse
>>> spaces, explorations of small DIY art communities, or maybe something about
>>> how experimental art forms coexist with experimental spaces.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Incite Journal of Experimental Media
>> Issue #4: Exhibition Guide
>> Fall 2013
>>
>> -Alain
>>
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] suggestions on travelogue and/or road films by women filmmakers?

[mary billyou]

>From Hetty to Nancy by Deborah Stratman

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 12:29 PM William Basquin 
wrote:

> I don't know if previous commenters have already mentioned Sarah
> Christman's Dear Bill Gates.
> I think there was driving/road-rtipping involved in the making of it, so
> maybe you'll feel that it fits the parameters.
>
> -- Bill Basquin
>
>
> Bill Basquin
> San Francisco, CA
> 415.317.7611www.BillBasquin.info
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: alena williams
> Sent: Oct 19, 2019 7:08 AM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] suggestions on travelogue and/or road films by
> women filmmakers?
>
> Nancy Holt, Pine Barrens, 1974
>
> Nancy Holt (in collaboration with Smithson/Heizer), Mono Lake,
>
> Amy Reid, Long Haulers, 2018
> http://amyreidart.com/index.php?/2016/long-haulers/
>
>
> On 19. Oct 2019, at 08:54, Tara  wrote:
>
> Niagara Falls by Anne Charlotte Robertson
>
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:42 AM, Georg Koszulinski 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Kornelia,
>
>
> Here's a recent film that fits the bill:
>
>
> *Driving Dinosaurs (Emma Piper-Burket, 2019)*
>
> An 89 year old marketing gimmick subliminally resurfaces on a lonely road
> in the American west.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:03 AM Aman Wadhan  wrote:
>
>> *Double-Blind*
>> by Sophie Calle and Gregory Shephard
>> 1992, 75 min.
>>
>> An autobiographical meta-fiction about the meaning of love with two
>> unreliable narrators on the road in their Cadillac.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019, 04:35 Fred Camper,  wrote:
>>
>>> Even though I usually gripe about questions like this, I have to answer
>>> this one, because a film that i deeply love is missing, Joyce Wieland's *La
>>> Raison Avant la Passion*.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/reason-over-passion/Film?oid=1055619
>>> Fred Camper
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/18/2019 9:58 PM, Kornelia Boczkowska wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for travelogue and/or road films made by women filmmakers in
>>> connection with my postdoctoral project on avant-garde and experimental
>>> film (no UMO-2018/31/D/HS2/01553).
>>>
>>> So far I've been able to track down several works, incl. those mentioned
>>> in response to Bryan Konefsky's question on experimental road movies, but
>>> I'm sure there are many more that I'm not aware of. Any thoughts? I'd be
>>> grateful for any suggestions, also on films that embrace non-mechanical
>>> means of transportation and revision the concept of mobility - as implied
>>> by the broad definition of the aforementioned genres. I'm pasting some
>>> exemplary titles below to give you an idea what I'm looking for.
>>>
>>> Thanks and all best,
>>>
>>> Kornelia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Portland (1996) by Greta Snider
>>>
>>> You and I Remain (2015) by Kate McCabe
>>>
>>> On The Line (2010) by Cathy Lee Crane
>>>
>>> Cayuga Run (1967) and September Express (1973) by Storm De Hirsch
>>>
>>> Light Years (1987) by Gunvor Nelson
>>>
>>> Roundtrip (2013) by Caroline Blai
>>>
>>> The Spaces Between Cities (2015) by Salise Hughes
>>>
>>> Flower Fields (1974) and Secrets from the Street: No Disclosure (1980)
>>> by Martha Rosler
>>>
>>> Rules of the Road (1993) by Su Friedrich
>>>
>>> There? Where? (1979) by Babette Mangolte
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kornelia Boczkowska, Ph.D.
>>> Department of Studies in Culture
>>> Faculty of English
>>> Adam Mickiewicz University in 
>>> Poznańhttp://wa.amu.edu.pl/wa/boczkowska_korneliahttps://orcid.org/-0003-0875-9209
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Re: [Frameworks] PDF of Claire Johnston's Notes on Women's Cinema?

[mary billyou]

Dear Lindsay,

Is this article the same as the one that was printed in the insert of
Screen in 1973?

Mary

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 3:46 AM lindsay mcintyre 
wrote:

> Women's Cinema as Counter Cinema? I have that if that's the one you're
> looking for.
>
> Best,
>
> Lindsay McIntyre
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM mary billyou  wrote:
>
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>>
>> Does anyone have a PDF of "Notes on Women's Cinema" by Claire Johnston,
>> published by Screen in 1973?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Mary
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Re: [Frameworks] suggestions for experimental road movies and/or experimental films about automobility

[mary billyou]

also,
Martha Rosler has some super 8 films at EAI that were produced when she was
in San Diego (hence the car):

Flowerfields
Secrets from the Street


Cheers,

mary


On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, 6:50 AM Bryan Konefsky  wrote:

> Hello all, I am in the process of building a program that looks at
> automobility and road movies from an experimental perspective... wondering
> if anyone has suggestions about artists' films that study this topic...
> Titles and links would be preferable and I am open to both historic and
> current works - if you have made something along these lines I would be
> happy to have the opportunity to view such films/videos as well.
>
> thanks everyone
> Bryan Konefsky
> president, Basement Films
> founder/director, Experiments in Cinema
>
> Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for
> that spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as
> Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be bought
> with money, cheap glory, or social position.
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[Frameworks] Linear film editing

[Mary Stark]

Dear Frameworks Friends.

I'm interested in 'linear film editing', as in cutting and splicing film at
an edit bench or Steenbeck or however you do it. I'd like to know more
about artist filmmakers who continue to edit film physically whilst also
living in this digital era!

I've attached a questionnaire for folks to fill in if you would be so kind.
Email responses to maryst...@hotmail.co.uk

Warmest wishes,

Mary


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Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness

[mary billyou]

Kristallnacht  by Chick Strand

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 6:50 AM Marcin Gizycki  wrote:

> Has anybody mentioned *Hurlements en faveur de Sade* by Guy Debord?
>
> Marcin Giżycki
>
>
>
> *From:* FrameWorks  *On Behalf Of
> *Daniel A. Swarthnas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:57 AM
> *To:* frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness
>
>
>
> Hi Albert!
>
>
>
> Some of the films I was thinking about, have already been mentioned by
> other people, but you have of course the very great "black" films by Stan
> Brakhage which Nicky Hamlyn writes about in "Stan Brakhage: Realm Buster"
> (John Libbey publishing, 2018).
>
>
>
> You can also try to check out this two films (it is almost black leaders
> during the whole films):
>
> *Gregory Markopoulos - Gammelion* (1968)
>
> João César Monteiro - *Branca de Neve (Snow White)*
>
>
>
> Btw, Anouk de Clercq's film *Black* is on 35mm, not 16mm.
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
> Daniel A. Swarthnas
>
> Filmmaker / Writer / Film programmer
>
> Cinema Parenthèse / Turbidus Film / Filmform
> swarth...@mail.com
> +46(0)705778603
>
>
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 10:13 AM
> *From:* "Albert Alcoz" 
> *To:* "Experimental Film Discussion List" 
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films about darkness
>
> Hello John,
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your suggestion. The other day  I watched The
> Black Tower for second time and i felt it is exactly the sort if film i was
> looking for.
>
>
>
> That's for sure you don't remember but we met some years ago in Italy at
> the Lucca Film festival and later we exchanged some words at the Punto de
> Vista in Pamplona, the year you came with Dad's Stick.
>
>
>
> I'm explaining this just to ask you if you have a transcription of the
> voices over of the The Black Tower. The idea is to include some seconds for
> a video essay for the Soy Cámara program of the B.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJeHI7FwAuM=2s
>
>
>
> If you don't have it i will try to translate some seconds in order to use
> it to explain different ideas about darkness and cinema.
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Albert
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 12:13 AM John Smith 
> wrote:
>
> My film ‘The Black Tower’ (1985-87)
>
> http://johnsmithfilms.com/selected-works/the-black-tower/
>
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> Sent from a device that I refuse to advertise.*
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Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films

[mary billyou]

http://film-makerscoop.com/catalogue/anthony-mccall-line-describing-a-cone

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 8:39 PM o...@thenowcorporation.com <
o...@thenowcorporation.com> wrote:

> mm serra may have some light to shed in this discussion re: fmc.
> Unintended pun acknowledged.
>
> Owen P.
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Chrissie Iles, Curatorial <
> chrissie_i...@whitney.org> wrote:
>
> Responding to this thread (and Anthony can correct me as he is on this
> list), Anthony McCall’s spatial film works that Jonathan mentions are not
> in distribution catalogues because, like Paul Sharits’ location works and
> other expanded cinema works from that period, they are multiple projection
> works made to be shown in the physical space of the gallery rather than in
> cinemas, where it would be impossible to show them. ‘Line Describing a
> Cone’ and ‘Partial Cone’ were the exception to this because they are single
> projections. I would be wary of the good old days of film versus the art
> world argument, or the implication that the inclusion of ‘Line Describing a
> Cone’ in ‘Into the Light’ somehow made his 1970s works less accessible. The
> opposite is true. The early works have been restored, and anyone who wants
> to show them can contact his gallery, Sean Kelly or Anthony himself.
> Likewise, Tony Conrad’s yellow movies can still be borrowed, and are seen
> more widely than ever before. The Whitney has ‘Yellow Movie 2/26/73’ (1973)
> and six 1970s collage drawings by Conrad in its collection.  Many artists
> (like Carolee Schneemann, Bruce Conner, Taka Iimura, Harry Smith, Stan
> VanDerBeek, Jack Smith, Hollis Frampton, et al) did not work exclusively in
> one world or the other; their refusal of purity (which the yellow movies
> specifically address) articulated a fluidity of approach that laid the
> ground for the current pluralism of the field (though sadly not its racial
> and gender diversity, which is finally being addressed in a long-needed
> correction).
>
> Chrissie
>
>
>
> *From:* FrameWorks  *On Behalf Of
> *Eric Theise
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 2:32 AM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List ;
> Jonathan Walley 
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Anthony McCall's films
>
>
>
> Continuing along Jonathan's line of inquiry, courtesy BAMPFA's Film
> Library and Study Center. I know McCall's Line Describing a Cone is from
> 1973 but I'm not familiar with the dates in the rest of his filmography so
> here's the full dump.
>
>
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number One (1966): no McCall.
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two (1969): no McCall.
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number One
> (1969): no McCall.
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Two
> (1970): no McCall.
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Three
> (1970): no McCall. Curt McDowell makes a first appearance with A Visit to
> Indiana (1970).
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three (1972): no McCall.
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement (1973): no
> McCall.
>
> Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement Number Two
> (1974): no McCall.
>
> Combined with my previous email, the only McCall work available in Canyon
> catalogs #4-#8 was Light Describing a Cone.
>
>
>
> Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #4 (1967): no McCall. Lots of
> Markopoulos though!
>
> Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #5 (1971): no McCall.
>
> Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #6 (1975): no McCall.
>
>
>
> Light Cone Additif Avril 1991: no McCall.
>
> Light Cone Catalogue (Mars 1994): no McCall.
>
> Light Cone Catalogue 1997: Line Describing a Cone only. 250F.
>
> Light Cone Catalogue 2001: Line Describing a Cone only. 55 €.
>
>
>
> LUX catalogs were not available on my visit today.
>
>
>
> A few bonus publications:
>
> Filmmakers Co-Operatives Catalogue of Independent Film (1975/76) &
> Supplement (January 1977). These are Australian publications representing
> co-ops in Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Sydney, Melbourne, plus the South
> Australia Media Resources Centre (Adelaide). But no McCall.
>
>
>
> Film Programmer's Guide to 16mm Rentals, Third Edition (1980). Edited by
> Kathleen Weaver, Associate Editor Richard Prelinger, Consulting Editor
> Linda J. Artel. Lists Line Describing a Cone as available from CAN (Canyon)
> for $40. I'm realizing now that I didn't check the other titles in that
> book. Will circle back and check, sorry.
>
>
>
> As an aside, I completely forgot about that book. Seeing the cover (below)
> transported me back to John Schofill's kitchen table in Chicago, mid-80s,
> making lists of films to show at Randolph St Gallery. Also forgot to
> mention it to Rick Prelinger who chatted with Kelly Sears about her work
> after tonight's screening at BAMPFA.
>
>
>
> Also below:  I don't recall seeing those Lenny Lipton designs before.
>
>
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 

[Frameworks] Record release by artist filmmaker Mary Stark

[Mary Stark]

I'd like to let frameworkers know about a record that has just been
released relating to a film performance I've been working on for what seems
like aeons of time!


Film as Fabric is the third release in the new Industrial Folklore Tapes
series and is constructed from live recordings of the performance tilted
‘Film as Fabric', which examines relationships between textile practice,
filmmaking and sound. From 2012-2016, my studio practice and numerous
performances took place in Rogue Artist Studios at Crusader Mill in
Manchester, formerly a production site of machinery for the cotton industry
and a garment works. The performance has been enriched by exploration of
Lancashire’s industrial heritage and my family history, which includes
workers in cotton mills and expert needlewomen.


Film as Fabric repeatedly involves sound in physical formats through
optical sound, work song and recordings of weaving machinery on vinyl
records, the amplified mechanisms of the film projector and sewing machine,
and my voice. The performance highlights the now obsolete industrial
practice of linear film editing and shows photochemical film as a
sculptural reflective fabric, measured and worn on the body, cut with
scissors and stitched on the sewing machine. Through the filmmaking
technology of optical sound, fabric and stitch patterns are transformed
into noise, referring to a lesser-known sonic world associated with textile
production. The recordings are of live performances at Full of Noises
Festival 2015, and in 2016 at Islington Mill, Manchester Histories Festival
and Radio Revolten International Festival of Radio Art.


The release is limited to only 250 editions and comprises of a ten inch
record in gatefold sleeve with a twelve page black and white machine sewn
booklet and a 16mm black and white patterned fabric photogram.  It is
priced at £15.00 plus shipping.


http://www.folkloretapes.co.uk/product/industrial-folklore-tapes-vol-iii-film-as-fabric-mary-stark


The Wire magazine recently featured the release in their print issue 414
and shared a video I made at Quarry Bank Mill of industrial textile
machinery that informed the development of the performance
https://www.thewire.co.uk/video/mary-stark-shares-some-visual-research
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Re: [Frameworks] Arriflex 35-3 for sale!

[mary billyou]

Hello Jesse,

does this camera have a variable speed motor?

mary

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jesse Andrewartha 
wrote:

>
> Hey folks,
>
> The fire sale continues! I am selling my beloved Arriflex 35-3; as painful
> as it is I must liquidate my trusty workhorse as life twists and turns.
> It’s a late model 35-3 with CE crystal base, PL mount and two 400ft
> magazines. Rock steady image, purchased for $3000 CAD from Visual Products
> with CLA only 2 years ago
>
> $2300 CAD OBO
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Labor Movement films?

[mary billyou]

Abigail Child's *Acts and Intermissions*

On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Brandon Walley  wrote:

> Looking for experimental, nonfiction, feature or shorts that deal with the
> works right, labor unions or related for a May Day screening. Suggestions?
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Re: [Frameworks] Optical Printers

[mary billyou]

ask joel
joel.schlemow...@gmail.com


On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 7:25 PM, <zach.har...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Mary,
>
> I don’t know who has it. I assume it’s in storage somewhere or maybe been
> sold?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 13, 2018, at 6:13 PM, mary billyou <mbill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Zach,
>
> who has the old Millenium optical printer? do you know?
>
> Mary
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Zach Hart <zach.har...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello out there,
>>
>> Does anyone have a lead on where to get an older model JK Optical
>> Printer? I'm particularly interested in the K104 model with the analogue
>> sequencer.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Zach
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Re: [Frameworks] Sad news

[mary billyou]

What a surprise! I have never met the man in person but I would have liked
to have met him. His recent call for attention to sexual harassment and
assault encouraged me to engage more fully in this forum. I will be sure to
learn more about him and his work, now especially more than ever.

Thank you for letting us know.

Mary

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Fred Camper <f...@fredcamper.com> wrote:

> I knew Chuck for about four decades, not as a close friend but through
> many fine encounters over the years. This list has it right: he was warm,
> funny, generous, kind, smart, and had real integrity. I too read his review
> of *Visionary Film* when it came out, and I do agree that Chuck did open
> up really important ways of thinking about the subject.
>
> One example of his generosity: He asked me to be the respondent to a paper
> he was giving at a seminar that was partly a critique of the Sitney canon,
> knowing, I suspect, that I might be a bit critical of his paper. He got me
> lots of material in advance. His paper was quite interesting and I enjoyed
> engaging with it. I found one way of humorously tweaking it in my response,
> and I still remember Chuck’s hearty laugh when I launched my little
> one-liner. Now that is generosity.
>
> A film important to his paper was *The Cry of Jazz* (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_of_Jazz ) I think Chuck meant this as
> an example of the kind of film that should be included in a widened canon.
> If you haven’t seen it, having a look would be one way to honor his memory.
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Asking for a friend

[mary billyou]

Don't know if you all saw this article in *Hyperallergic. *Its related,
however on a wider spectrum of artists:

https://hyperallergic.com/408558/over-1800-female-artists-and-art-workers-sign-letter-against-sexual-harassment/?utm_medium=email_campaign=Artists%20and%20Art%20Workers%20Sign%20Letter%20Against%20Sexual%20Harassment_content=Artists%20and%20Art%20Workers%20Sign%20Letter%20Against%20Sexual%20Harassment+CID_9e2035daa86535d993a8c1d2c4325563_source=HyperallergicNewsletter_term=not-surprisedorg%20initiative

Mary B

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:10 AM, lady snowblood <
snowbloods.para...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your observations on the role of scholarship in creating
> centered spaces for auteurs Evan.
>
> When female filmmakers voices are centered, when I as a woman don’t have
> to decrypt and explain what is perfectly clear to me — I was raised
> literate in a male visual vocabulary (as is everyone in the culture). I am
> constantly doing double-work. When I don’t have to do that, then gender
> parity will have happened.
>
> I grew up trained to recognize male visual language, right? Double-work is
> “ok where is my vision of this, as it has been informed by my
> woman-experience”. It is what women say to other women when men aren’t
> around, what men miss or overlook. This is often the narrative I’m
> interested in. And that kind of narrative is often demoted because it
> literally can’t be seen.
>
> I can put on multiple lenses, I have practiced reading so many kinds of
> work by so many kinds of speakers. Yet the voice at center? Usually male
> auteur. The kind of work rewarded? Same.
>
> That place in the center allows the auteur the power to abuse those in the
> margins.
>
> To me the deepest revolution is to sponsor women’s authorial power, to
> bring queer authors, POC authors, to the center. Let many have a turn in
> that space. Lateralize the mountain, get rifle of ideas of apex. Train all
> in how to listen and prize story and voice coming from places “not white”,
> “not male”, etc.
>
> So many people are making work now, I gave up pederasts and stalkers and
> found new art old and new to research and consider. It’s not hard. I value
> Tippi Hedrin more than Alfred Hitchcock’s films, not a tough decision.
>
> I also keep the act of viewing art in balance with other areas of life - I
> have few idols and art isn’t an escape for me, rather it enriches my life.
> It’s not a church, either, it’s part of our built world.
>
> I also have listened to too many women (and a smaller number of men) who
> have been assaulted. That pain is real, the day to say struggle, often too
> much.  Art? It’s an illusion. Created in a more conscious way than our
> mutual traumas, so much of trauma a boiling-over of uncontrollability and
> attempts to control.
>
> Anyway ... I have worked with survivor communities training in fine art
> production, it is something we should keep talking about. Certainly it’s
> not one answer coming from ‘out there’ that gets us to figure out, each one
> of us, what might work. It’s a gigantic constellation of conversations and
> ongoing discussion and failing and trying again.
>
> Thanks for bringing this up. It’s a valuable convo to have.
>
> Jessica
>
> * * * * *
>
> Jessica Fenlon
>
> artist : poet : experimental : http://sixth-station.com
>
> flickr <https://www.flickr.com/photos/drawclose> : vimeo
> <http://vimeo.com/jessicafenlon> : instagram
> <https://www.instagram.com/port.manteaux>
>
> On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:31 AM, Amanda Christie <
> ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca> wrote:
>
> I would like to offer another perspective, that no one has mentioned yet…
> about when it comes to naming names…
> and the idea that Evan mentioned about the voiceless gaining a voice…
>
> if a third party names names… are the voiceless actually gaining a voice
> if they are not the ones telling their own stories?
> or is someone else then telling their story for them, and thus stealing
> their voice again?
>
>
> there is more complexity to this situation than just what to do with the
> art of an aggressor after an aggressor has been outed…
> there is also the question of how the outing of an aggressor then impacts
> the actual people who were hurt and whether or not they are the ones
> telling their own stories.
> I think that is the most important question in all of this.
> Consideration for the people who were hurt and making sure that they
> retain their own right to choose whether or not to tell their own stories.
>
>
> naming aggressors should come from the people who have personally been
> hurt by them… (I don’t want to use the term “victim", or “survivor",
> because i find t

Re: [Frameworks] Jazz Music and Avant-Garde Film

[mary billyou]

Tatsu Aoki!

http://tatsuaoki.com/filmography.html


a major fixture on the Chicago jazz scene. Double-bass player

On Nov 12, 2017 8:45 PM, "Myron Ort" <z...@sonic.net> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frOgv6UNGiA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2017, at 8:13 AM, mary billyou <mbill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Cassavettes' *Shadows*
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 1:59 AM, C Keefer <keef...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> many other visual music films for that list, here's a few -
>>
>> More by Harry Smith, Films 2 and 3 and 11
>>
>> Jordan Belson, Bop Scotch
>>
>> More by Hy Hirsh (no c in Hirsh), including Scratch Pad
>>
>> at least 4 or 5 films by Len Lye
>> more by Norman McLaren
>>
>> Oskar Fischinger, Studie nr 5.  On CVM's vimeo VOD channel, also on the
>> forthcoming new Oskar Fischinger DVD next month,
>> www.centerforvisualmusic.org/Fischinger/newdvd.htm
>>
>> Steve Woloshen, Shimmer Box Drive
>>
>>
>> Cindy Keefer
>> Center for Visual Music
>> www.centerforvisualmusic.org
>>
>> CVM email - cvmaccess (at) gmail.com
>>
>>
>> (original post)
>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:14 AM, Albert Alcoz <
>> albertal...@gmail.com <mailto:albertal...@gmail.com
>> <albertal...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was wondering about the connections between jazz music and avant-garde
>> film after watching Bridges-Go-Round (1958) by Shirley Clarke, with the
>> soundtrack version created by Teo Macero.
>>
>> There should be plenty of avant-garde and experimental films where the
>> soundtrack is instrumental jazz music. Maybe the field of Visual Music
>> should be the most represented but i'm sure there are other films like the
>> one by Michael Snow that uses, in this case, free jazz music or
>> improvisation.
>>
>> Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with jazz soundtracks?
>>
>> Right my list is as follows:
>>
>> Begone Dull Care (1949) by Norman McLaren. Music by Oscar Peterson
>>
>> Films No. 1 (1948) by Harry Smith. Music by Dizzy Gillespie
>>
>> Chasse des Touches (1959) by Hy Hirsh. Music by Thelonious Monk
>>
>> Catalog (1961) by John Whitney. Music by Ornette Coleman
>>
>> New York Eye and Ear Control (1964) by Michael Snow. Music by Albert
>> Ayler, Don Cherry, etc.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Albert Alcoz
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over narration?

[mary billyou]

*SCUM Manifesto* by Carole Roussopoulos & Delphine Seyrig 1976

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Amanda Thomson 
wrote:

> A few contemporary examples for the list:
>
> Kelly Gallagher, Pilar Monsell, Mónica Savirón
>
> I also have a few films with female voice over, usually mine.
>
> Amanda Thomson
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Re: [Frameworks] Jazz Music and Avant-Garde Film

[mary billyou]

Cassavettes' *Shadows*

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 1:59 AM, C Keefer  wrote:

> many other visual music films for that list, here's a few -
>
> More by Harry Smith, Films 2 and 3 and 11
>
> Jordan Belson, Bop Scotch
>
> More by Hy Hirsh (no c in Hirsh), including Scratch Pad
>
> at least 4 or 5 films by Len Lye
> more by Norman McLaren
>
> Oskar Fischinger, Studie nr 5.  On CVM's vimeo VOD channel, also on the
> forthcoming new Oskar Fischinger DVD next month,
> www.centerforvisualmusic.org/Fischinger/newdvd.htm
>
> Steve Woloshen, Shimmer Box Drive
>
>
> Cindy Keefer
> Center for Visual Music
> www.centerforvisualmusic.org
>
> CVM email - cvmaccess (at) gmail.com
>
>
> (original post)
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:14 AM, Albert Alcoz <
> albertal...@gmail.com  >> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering about the connections between jazz music and avant-garde
> film after watching Bridges-Go-Round (1958) by Shirley Clarke, with the
> soundtrack version created by Teo Macero.
>
> There should be plenty of avant-garde and experimental films where the
> soundtrack is instrumental jazz music. Maybe the field of Visual Music
> should be the most represented but i'm sure there are other films like the
> one by Michael Snow that uses, in this case, free jazz music or
> improvisation.
>
> Does anyone remember some other avant-garde films with jazz soundtracks?
>
> Right my list is as follows:
>
> Begone Dull Care (1949) by Norman McLaren. Music by Oscar Peterson
>
> Films No. 1 (1948) by Harry Smith. Music by Dizzy Gillespie
>
> Chasse des Touches (1959) by Hy Hirsh. Music by Thelonious Monk
>
> Catalog (1961) by John Whitney. Music by Ornette Coleman
>
> New York Eye and Ear Control (1964) by Michael Snow. Music by Albert
> Ayler, Don Cherry, etc.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Albert Alcoz
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over narration?

[mary billyou]

Also Su Friedrich & Penny Lane

On Nov 10, 2017 7:00 PM, "Bernard Roddy" <tactilecor...@gmail.com> wrote:

What about a voice that is so distorted one cannot say what gender it is.
A voice that "disturbs" the difference.

I have godforsaken pages on the first utterances in Luther Price's *Clown*.
They are incoherent.  And is this a man speaking, or what?  Does the
question make sense?

Ok, I'm going.

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Gene Youngblood <ato...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Cecelia Condit and Vanalyne Green
>
>
> On November 10, 2017 at 3:05:47 PM, mary billyou (mbill...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> my movie "The Wonder of It All" <https://vimeo.com/50904896>
>
> and "ours be the tossing" <https://vimeo.com/15333125>
>
> PS I love "Crowdog" by Vanessa Renwick and "Dirty Fingernails" by Sarah
> Kennedy and "Hair Piece" by Ayoka Chenzira.
>
> There's also a bunch by Martha Rosler: "A Budding Gourmet," "How Do We
> Know What Home Looks Like?," and one of the best: "Martha Rosler Reads
> Vogue"
>
> MM Serra's "Enduring Ornament"
>
> Some of Sabine Gruffat's recent work has her voice – "Speculation Nation"
>
> Shelly Silver's work
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Ann Deborah Levy <
> adl...@resonantimages.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> My 16mm films all used voiceover with women’s voices prominent.  The most
>> ambitious, and definitely off the radar, is:
>>
>> WATERSCAPE: ILLUSIONS, 52 minutes, an essay film that meditates on
>> illusion and reality in both myth making and filmmaking in the context of
>> shooting a film on a “wilderness” lake with swans.  The principal voices
>> are all women:  the filmmaker whose shooting diary provides narration of
>> events and thoughts, a scholar on swan symbolism, and three young girls
>> trading fairy tales and a poem.  If you would like a link, please contact
>> me off list.
>>
>>
>> Other films with women in voiceover that come to mind, but in no way
>> represent a comprehensive list are:
>>
>> Marguerite Duras films:  especially INDIA SONG and her short film CESAREE
>> with a woman’s voice describing the ruined city of Cesaree (Caesarea) over
>> images of the Tuileries and Paris.
>>
>>
>> Some films preserved by the Women’s Film Preservation Fund of NYWIFT:
>>
>> MAKE OUT, 1970, a narrative short showing a couple in a romantic moment
>> with a woman’s voice expressing what she is feeling.  The film made by the
>> Newsreel Collective was conceived by Geri Ashur, who co-directed, (with
>> Peter Schlaifer), the filming of the actors. The voice-over script was
>> created collectively by Ashur, Andrea Eagan, Marcia Salo Rizzi, Deborah
>> Shaffer and a few other women, and was taken from thetranscript of their
>> "conscious-raising group" discussions.
>>
>> SISTERS!, 1973, Barbara Hammer, director, with the voices of Hammer and
>> Kate Millet.  The film begins with a woman’s voice declaring: “I had a
>> dream of women where men used to be: building, working, growing strong,
>> building their bodies into strength for self-defense.” This film collage is
>> a celebration of lesbians.
>>
>> ALL WOMEN ARE EQUAL, Marguerite Paris.  This may be a stretch because
>> it’s a documentary about a male to female transvestite, Paula, whose voice
>> taken from an interview out of synch with filmed images of her in her
>> apartment.
>>
>>
>> And one more addition:
>> HAIR PIECE, A FILM FOR NAPPY-HEADED PEOPLE, 1985, Ayoka Chenzira,
>> director, an animated film about Black women coping with expectations about
>> their hairstyles.  (available through Women Make Movies)
>>
>>
>> ANN
>>
>> Ann Deborah Levy
>> filmmaker: www.resonantimages.com
>> and
>> Co-Chair, Women’s Film Preservation Fund of NYWIFT:
>> www.womensfilmpreservationfund.org
>>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Ben Ogrodnik wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am requesting some film suggestions for a list of experimental,
>> independent, and/or feminist-leaning films that contain a woman --
>> or multiple women -- providing voice-over narration to the images.
>>
>> The works can be from any era, in any format: documentary,
>> animation, fiction, found-footage, anthropological, installation-
>> based, etc.
>>
>> Some well-known examples of this tradition would be: Laura Mulvey
>> and Peter Wollen's Riddles of the Sphinx, 1977; Michelle Citron's
>>

Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over narration?

[mary billyou]

my movie "The Wonder of It All" 

and "ours be the tossing" 

PS I love "Crowdog" by Vanessa Renwick and "Dirty Fingernails" by Sarah
Kennedy and "Hair Piece" by Ayoka Chenzira.

There's also a bunch by Martha Rosler: "A Budding Gourmet," "How Do We Know
What Home Looks Like?," and one of the best: "Martha Rosler Reads Vogue"

MM Serra's "Enduring Ornament"

Some of Sabine Gruffat's recent work has her voice – "Speculation Nation"

Shelly Silver's work



On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Ann Deborah Levy 
wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> My 16mm films all used voiceover with women’s voices prominent.  The most
> ambitious, and definitely off the radar, is:
>
> WATERSCAPE: ILLUSIONS, 52 minutes, an essay film that meditates on
> illusion and reality in both myth making and filmmaking in the context of
> shooting a film on a “wilderness” lake with swans.  The principal voices
> are all women:  the filmmaker whose shooting diary provides narration of
> events and thoughts, a scholar on swan symbolism, and three young girls
> trading fairy tales and a poem.  If you would like a link, please contact
> me off list.
>
>
> Other films with women in voiceover that come to mind, but in no way
> represent a comprehensive list are:
>
> Marguerite Duras films:  especially INDIA SONG and her short film CESAREE
> with a woman’s voice describing the ruined city of Cesaree (Caesarea) over
> images of the Tuileries and Paris.
>
>
> Some films preserved by the Women’s Film Preservation Fund of NYWIFT:
>
> MAKE OUT, 1970, a narrative short showing a couple in a romantic moment
> with a woman’s voice expressing what she is feeling.  The film made by the
> Newsreel Collective was conceived by Geri Ashur, who co-directed, (with
> Peter Schlaifer), the filming of the actors. The voice-over script was
> created collectively by Ashur, Andrea Eagan, Marcia Salo Rizzi, Deborah
> Shaffer and a few other women, and was taken from thetranscript of their
> "conscious-raising group" discussions.
>
> SISTERS!, 1973, Barbara Hammer, director, with the voices of Hammer and
> Kate Millet.  The film begins with a woman’s voice declaring: “I had a
> dream of women where men used to be: building, working, growing strong,
> building their bodies into strength for self-defense.” This film collage is
> a celebration of lesbians.
>
> ALL WOMEN ARE EQUAL, Marguerite Paris.  This may be a stretch because it’s
> a documentary about a male to female transvestite, Paula, whose voice taken
> from an interview out of synch with filmed images of her in her apartment.
>
>
> And one more addition:
> HAIR PIECE, A FILM FOR NAPPY-HEADED PEOPLE, 1985, Ayoka Chenzira,
> director, an animated film about Black women coping with expectations about
> their hairstyles.  (available through Women Make Movies)
>
>
> ANN
>
> Ann Deborah Levy
> filmmaker: www.resonantimages.com
> and
> Co-Chair, Women’s Film Preservation Fund of NYWIFT:
> www.womensfilmpreservationfund.org
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Ben Ogrodnik wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am requesting some film suggestions for a list of experimental,
> independent, and/or feminist-leaning films that contain a woman --
> or multiple women -- providing voice-over narration to the images.
>
> The works can be from any era, in any format: documentary,
> animation, fiction, found-footage, anthropological, installation-
> based, etc.
>
> Some well-known examples of this tradition would be: Laura Mulvey
> and Peter Wollen's Riddles of the Sphinx, 1977; Michelle Citron's
> Daughter Rite, 1978; or Su Friedrich's Sink or Swim, 1990.
>
> Any examples of woman-voiced films that may be lesser known, or
> made outside EuroAmerican settings, would be greatly appreciated as
> well!
>
> Thanks so much.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ben
>
> --
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> Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
> University of Pittsburgh
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[Frameworks] 11/11&12: 2-Day Basic AfterEffects Workshop @ FMC

[mary billyou]

ONLY $50/day!!
Noon–4pm
Taught by editor Susan Cox

at
The Film-Makers' Cooperative
475 Park Ave. South
6th Floor

Saturday and Sunday

See here for tickets:

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Re: [Frameworks] recent dance films from NYC

[mary billyou]

My new film *GUN, HAT, GIRL... <https://vimeo.com/170693412> *has a section
that is a re-performance of a dance in Yvonne Rainer's *Lives of the
Performers. *

Cheers,
Mary

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Elizabeth McMahon <elizmcma...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Did you try contacting Dance Films Association, which runs the annual
> Dance On Film Festival at Lincoln Center? There's other dance film
> festivals as well.
>
> In addition, you could contact the Jerome Robbins Dance Division at
> Lincoln Center Library For The Performing Arts? http://www.dancefilms.org
>
> Best,
>
> Elizabethzabeth McMahon
>
>
> On Sunday, June 4, 2017, Adam Sekuler <asekuler0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello friends,
>>
>> I'm in search of some recent (past 3 years) experimental dance films that
>> originate from New York filmmakers and/or choreographers.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>> Adam
>>
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Re: [Frameworks] Slide projector bulbs in NYC

[mary billyou]

There's a place over near where Calumet used to be around 23rd St.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:

> Which ones?  ENXes?
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Re: [Frameworks] 40 years of VHS - short video recommendations?

[mary billyou]

Sadie Benning's work (shot on Pixelvision, but you need a VCR to make a
tape); Joanie 4 Jackie distribution project by Miranda July

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Derek Taylor 
wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but Jonathan Horowitz's
> "Maxell" (1990) might fit your criteria.
>
> Best,
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films using Astronomy & Satellite imagery - recommendations

[mary billyou]

Lili Chin has one: lil...@gmail.com

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Justin Mackenzie 
wrote:

> Hello Adam,
>
>
> I'm thinking of the series Spaceship Earth by the director Nicolas Gessner.
>
>
> You can see all of the episodes here on youtube :
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaG70cJ8vDE=
> PLhXnrXHn0TB3jtcKXugRT1f2Eq2LeWYUz=1
> Spaceship Earth - YouTube
> 
> www.youtube.com
> Man I love this! Biggups to Ubah and Wynn for bringing it back to me!
> There are a total of 52 episodes, one for each week of Earths rotation
> around the Sun ...
>
>
>
> Good luck on your project,
>
> Justin
> --
> *De :* FrameWorks  de la part de
> Adam Hyman 
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 15 septembre 2016 01:11:44
> *À :* Experimental Film Discussion List 
> *Objet :* Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films using Astronomy & Satellite
> imagery - recommendations
>
> Thank you.
> I'll send a summary email in a couple of days.
>
> Best,
>
> Adam
>
> From: Piibe Kolka 
> Reply-To: "Experimental Film Discussion List  com>" 
> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 22:07:33 +0300
> To: "Experimental Film Discussion List " <
> frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Experimental films using Astronomy & Satellite
> imagery - recommendations
>
> Hi Adam,
>
> i made an experimental doc '540 nanometers' on the topic in 2012.
> https://vimeo.com/41938289
> ps. thanks for starting the thread - so many good recommendations for this
> particular interest.
>
> Piibe
>
> On 14 September 2016 at 19:42, Rob Gawthrop  wrote:
>
>> Erth John Latham UK 1971
>> "A journey from outer space to the centre of the world, in which
>> consciousness itself is revealed as a form sedimented history. With
>> distant views of the approaching Earth punctuated by black and silence,
>> light years are compressed into a cosmic imaginary.” Lux
>>
>> Moon 69 Scott Bartlett 1969
>> "Moon 1969 is a beautiful, eerie, haunting film, all the more wonderful
>> for the fact we do not once see the moon: only the manifestation of its
>> powers here on earth, the ebb and flow of the waters.. fiery rainbows into
>> a cloudy sky... men and rockets transformed into shattering crystals...
>> creating a picture if the cosmos in continual transformation."-- Gene
>> Youngblood
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On 13 Sep 2016, at 18:28, Adam Hyman  wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on programming a series around a theme of earth satellites &
>> astronomy, for a museum that is doing an exhibition linked to JPL (Jet
>> Propulsion Lab - the people behind our space probes, etc)
>>
>> This is supposed to be a more mainstream series, and there will be some
>> Hollywood sci-fi features as part of it, so we're not going too far out
>> (so to speak).
>>
>> But I'm looking for recommendations of experimental films that somehow
>> involve/invoke astronomical imagery, or, perhaps even better, imagery of
>> earth-orbiting satellites, and views of earth from satellites.  I hope to
>> run one in front of each feature, or have one evening of them.
>>
>> I am thinking of:
>> Films by Semiconductor ­ Brilliant Noise; Black Rain
>> Films by Jeanne Liotta
>> Films by Jordan Belson ­ Allures; Samadhi (1967); Cosmos (1969); World
>> (1970)
>>
>>
>> I have already been through Robert Haller's booklet on his series
>> "Universe" but I think I am not going to stretch this series to include
>> his time or other science-based films.  We're sticking with astronomy and
>> satellites.
>>
>> Additional suggestions, please?
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Adam
>>
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>> http://www.lafilmforum.org
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[Frameworks] 16mm Elf Projectors NT-1 series in Berlin or Halle

[Mary Stark]

Hello Frameworkers,

In October I will be performing at Radio Revolten International Festival of
Radio Art in Halle, Germany

http://radiorevolten.net/en/

I will be flying to Berlin and then getting a bus to Halle. Does anyone
know of an artist or organisation in that area that might be able to hire
or lend at least one ELF 16mm film projector?


Many thanks,

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[Frameworks] Cassette and Digital Release of Film Performance: Ghosts of Industries Past

[Mary Stark]

Hello frameworkers,

Fractal Meat Cuts has recently released a recording of one of my film
performances, a very special one because it was the first time I explored
sound and film performance. Perhaps you were there in the audience?

Summoning Ghosts of Industries Past rouses distant voices and clanking
whirring obsolete machines amongst the dusty rafters and uneven floorboards
of a former cotton mill in the city centre of Manchester. Loops of 16mm
film showing men and women working in textile factories were given a live
soundscape of industrial weaving machinery and songs relating to work with
cloth and thread. Part of the performance involved mixing live with 16mm
film loops of moving images and optical sounds created from fabric, stitch
and thread. In addition to optical sound, the performance repeatedly
emphasised sound as a physical, material format: I sang a Lace Tell and
played the keyboard, as well as playing songs on vinyl records and a dub
plate recording of weaving machinery at Quarry Bank Mill. The event was
hosted by the Manchester based Film Material collective and took place on
26th February 2015.

Fractal Meat Cuts is a label run by Graham Dunning for short run and
handmade releases. Started for self-releases, moving through
collaborations, 2016 marked a move to releasing recordings made by other
artists as well.

This release is available as a limited edition cassette with a digital
download or as a digital download alone. The release includes sound
recordings, photographs and typewritten programme notes giving personal
insight into the performance and the ideas I was interested in exploring.

https://fractalmeat.bandcamp.com/album/summoning-ghosts-of-industries-past

I hope this message finds you all in the high spirits of summer sunshine.

Mary x
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[Frameworks] Film Performance Event in Toronto at CineCycle Thursday 14th July

[Mary Stark]

Mary Stark and David Chatton Barker, artists based in Manchester, UK, are
visiting Toronto. Please join us from 7.30pm for a night of film
performance and sonic spells at the one and only CineCycle, the especially
specially fantastic cinema venue at 129 Spadina Avenue. We'll show
individual and collaborative films and performance works made over the last
two years, as well as fresh from the processing buckets of this year’s
Independent Imaging Retreat, otherwise known as Phil Hoffman’s Film Farm.
It will be a special treat to show some of our work on Martin Heath’s hand
crank 35mm projector which is 104 years old!! All this for just $5.

*More info and links….*

*Mary’s artist filmmaking practice is specifically informed by previous
training in textile practice. Since 2012 Mary has been exploring the
filmstrip as fabric through 16mm film performances with optical sound. Mary
works physically with a deconstructed skeletal frame of cinema, handling
reels of film sculpturally, involving unspooled film projectors to explore
the cinematic apparatus in relation to the human body, light and shadow. In
2014 she undertook an artist residency at LIFT, the Liaison of Independent
Filmmakers of Toronto. Recent shows include Contact Festival of New
Experimental Film and Video in London, UK, and a commissioned cameraless
35mm film in response to the Delia Derbyshire Archive. *

*David works with alchemical processes transmuting the mundane into the
mystical, combining mechanical and natural forms through analogue film,
homemade instruments and performance. Since 2011 David has led the
nationally acclaimed project Folklore Tapes encompassing experimental
music, film and performance. He has curated events and performed at the
Arnolfini Gallery, Café Oto and Spacex Gallery, as well as organizing a
sell-out national tour and programming a storytelling tent at Port Eliot
Festival. Early this year he undertook an international residency on the
island of Oro, Finland, investigating the changing landscape through
filmmaking and performance.*

http://www.marystark.co.uk/

http://www.folkloretapes.co.uk/

https://vimeo.com/davidchattonbarker
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm to HD transfer in Leeds / Manchester / York?

[Mary Stark]

Hi Amir,

I second Nicky’s iDailies vote, not sure what the North West Film Archive
charge but they don’t really offer a service to artists, they are more
concerned with conservation of films shot in the North West of England.

I have also recently heard of http://www.gaugefilm.co.uk/ who are based in
Birmingham but I have no experience of the quality of their telecine
service.

Good luck!

Mary

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> Hi everyone,
>
> I am looking to transfer two rolls of color 16mm film to HD (Apple ProRes
> or similar) in Leeds / Manchester / York area. Any info would be
> appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> Amir
>
>
>
> ++
> a m i r . h u s a k
> educator, filmmaker and media hacktivist
> www.amirhusak.com <http://www.amirhusak.com/wp>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films around the domestic interior and group study

[mary billyou]

Jennifer Montgomery's *Threads of Belonging*


Threads of Belonging depicts the daily life of "Layton House," a fictional
therapeutic community, where doctors live with their schizophrenic
patients.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Warren Cockerham 
wrote:

> HOME (1999) by Luther Price
>
> On Apr 3, 2016, at 5:56 PM, JS Shokrian  wrote:
>
> Frameworkers,
>
> Can you think of any films that turn the* interior *out, a dismantling,
> falling apart, unhinged?
>
> Or any scenes in a film that show people in *group study*?
>
> Thanks in advance x
>
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Re: [Frameworks] optically printed film on people swimming laps in a pool

[mary billyou]

Thank you for this title! Watersmith by Will Hindle. I forgot what it was
called.
Mary
PS Hope you find your listing, Vanessa

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> Watersmith is so beautiful.
>
> Owen's mobile device
>
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Eric Theise <ericthe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Even if it's not Will Hindle's Watersmith, I'm glad to be reminded of it.
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 3:29 AM, Pip Chodorov <framewo...@re-voir.com>
> wrote:
>
>> You mean Water Pulu by Ladislav Galeta?
>>
>>
>> At 18:26 -0800 12/03/16, vanessa renwick wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to remember who made this short, beautiful movie that was an
>>> optically printed film on people swimming laps in a pool.
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Re: [Frameworks] two more

[mary billyou]

For empty city streets in NYC:

Katrina Talking Pictures by Yvonne Rainer

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Dave Tetzlaff  wrote:

> > Empty city streets.
>
> Force of Evil (Abraham Polonsky)
>
> 'I am Legend' and various similar post-apocalyptic films, e.g. '28 days
> later'. Also maybe the current TV shows 'The Walking Dead' and 'Last Man on
> Earth' (which i haven't seen…)
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Re: [Frameworks] Black Leader

[mary billyou]

Yes, I'd try MPE as I said before Mac said they had tons of black leader.
mary

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Ed Inman <edin...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Anybody can make black leader, Just take b/w raw stock, expose to light,
> unwind into a bucket of b/w developer, wash with water, hang up to dry on a
> clothes line.
> Easy-peasy.
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza
> Sent: Mar 9, 2016 5:07 PM
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Black Leader
>
> I believe Niagara Custom Lab in Toronto can make black leader.
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Re: [Frameworks] Black Leader

[mary billyou]

Didn't anyone mention MPE? They have a huge payload of 16mm black leader.
My negative cutter Noëlle Penraat approves. You just have to get through to
them. This is their number: 212-245-0969. Ask for Mac.

Mary

On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Lyndsay Bloom <lyndsayellisbl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Good afternoon,
> Does anyone have 16mm black leader for sale, or does anyone know a source
> that still makes or sells black leader? Kodak stopped making it, and
> apparently Urbanski's out, but I'll need about 1150 feet, the negative
> cutter said, to make prints of films I want to loop in my thesis
> installation.
> Thank you kindly for any suggestions.
> Lyndsay Bloom
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Re: [Frameworks] 360 degrees

[mary billyou]

Did anyone mention Redmond Entwistle's work? His *Social Visions* has an
animated 360 degree shot and one of his more recent films too, I think *Belfast
Trio.*


*http://www.lux.org.uk/collection/artists/redmond-entwistle
<http://www.lux.org.uk/collection/artists/redmond-entwistle>*

Cheers,

Mary

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Gene Youngblood <ato...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Friends,
> I need recommendations of films that contain 360-degree dolly (or
> Steadicam) shots. Like for example circling around people seated at a
> restaurant table, but it can be anything. It seems to me there are “famous”
> ones in the French New Wave, and there must be many others before and after
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

Hi Jason the chemical concentrates have been opened and about a quarter
used I think...

I can run some tests but the film stock is also out of date so it's not
going to be straightforward!

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:

> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>
> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
> weakened.
>
> -Jason Halprin
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[Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

I have a set of Tetenol E6 chemical concentrate which went out of date 10
months ago.

The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months but I’m just
wondering if anyone has ever tried using out of date E6 chemicals with any
results?

I’m also buying new chemicals but wondering about the other set before I
take it to the safe waste disposal.

Very best,

Mary
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

Thanks very much everyone for the encouragement and info

Mary

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, you can process any VNF film (like 7239) in E6 chemistry. Here's a
> forum discussion on adjustments/timing:
>
> http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1=9893
>
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> jihalp...@gmail.com
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

hey Steve...maybe not the family Christmas movie then. but sounds like fun
otherwise!

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:06 PM, Steve Polta  wrote:

> I once lucked out and had some *amazing* results with expired E6: amazing
> color solarization throughout the roles and this weird flat purple stuff
> that took over all the dark areas. Can't guarantee your results but it
> could be very exciting. Obviously if you are after something that appears
> realistic you would be disappointed but otherwise it can be very
> interesting...!
>
> Steve Polta
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Jason Halprin 
> wrote:
>
>> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
>> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>>
>> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
>> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
>> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
>> weakened.
>>
>> -Jason Halprin
>>
>>
>> jihalp...@gmail.com
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

While we're on the subject does anyone know if EASTMAN EKTACHROME Film 160D
7239 processable in E6 chemicals?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kodak-Ektachrome-160-Type-A-SOUND-Color-Movie-Film-Super-8-expired-1988-/151951907206?hash=item23610a1986:g:OTEAAOSwpRRWmV~m

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Mary Stark <mstark...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jason the chemical concentrates have been opened and about a quarter
> used I think...
>
> I can run some tests but the film stock is also out of date so it's not
> going to be straightforward!
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Karen is definitley right. They may not be perfect*, but the unexpected
>> errors can be very nice and very usable.
>>
>> Are you talking about a properly stored, unopened concentrate? Most
>> likely, it will be just fine, with minimal shift from normal. If it was
>> opened and has air in the container, it will be partially oxidized and
>> weakened.
>>
>> -Jason Halprin
>>
>>
>> jihalp...@gmail.com
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Re: [Frameworks] out of date e6 chemicals

[Mary Stark]

wow thanks for that Karen!
I will give it a go :)





On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Karen Johannesen <
karenajohanne...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've used out of date E-6 chemicals many times. Often when the chemicals
> start to expire all kinds of wonderful unexpected thing happen including
> color shifts. I'd give it a try!
>
> Best,
> Karen
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Mary Stark <mstark...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a set of Tetenol E6 chemical concentrate which went out of date 10
>> months ago.
>>
>> The instructions say they go out of date after 6 months but I’m just
>> wondering if anyone has ever tried using out of date E6 chemicals with any
>> results?
>>
>> I’m also buying new chemicals but wondering about the other set before I
>> take it to the safe waste disposal.
>>
>> Very best,
>>
>> Mary
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[Frameworks] FREE 16mm Steenbeck, recently tuned-up

[mary billyou]

Dear Frameworkers,

I am finishing my project now, and must move to another apartment! Does
anyone in the NYC area want a WORKING AWESOME and most LOVELY Steenbeck of
their very own? I may be able to cover moving expenses, via my current
landlord.

Its small but not as small as they get.

Please let me know ASAP if you're interested. My email: mbill...@gmail.com


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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

[mary stark]

Yes Francisco this is exactly what I am trying to set up! 

www.marystark.co.ukTel: 07828450979

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:17:47 -0800
From: dominic.anger...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

I did it with an enlargement lamp set over the synchronizer and a motorized 
rewind. I did tests, and alas so will you since there are numerous factors 
involved, the brightness of light, the speed of movement, film stock being 
used. This is a very complicated process in the beginning but you get good 
results for much less than a lab. Its a poor man's way of printing.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
smoothly and evenly i guess... but how can you know if it got enough exposure? 
is there an optimal time per frame? sorry for asking so many questions...
2015-11-03 14:25 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
One can, at least I have, you need to bi pak raw stock with the film you want 
to print and shine a light on top of the synchronizer in a dark room and try to 
smoothly wind the film over the sprockets evenly. It takes practice, etc.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
you can contact print with a synchronizer?
2015-11-03 12:27 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
are you talking about a synchronizer?
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, mary stark <maryst...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



Hi there,
I'm looking for a 16mm sync machine so I can contact print film. Just wondering 
if anyone in the UK has got one for sale or spare?
Best wishes,
Mary
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

[mary stark]

I'll try and find one in the UK first thanks. Good to know just in case.

www.marystark.co.ukTel: 07828450979

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:14:45 -0400
From: cbifi...@gmail.com
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  I have several, but shipping from Canada is likely pricey.



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from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. 


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Yes Francisco this is exactly what I am trying to set up! 

www.marystark.co.ukTel: 07828450979

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 11:17:47 -0800
From: dominic.anger...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

I did it with an enlargement lamp set over the synchronizer and a motorized 
rewind. I did tests, and alas so will you since there are numerous factors 
involved, the brightness of light, the speed of movement, film stock being 
used. This is a very complicated process in the beginning but you get good 
results for much less than a lab. Its a poor man's way of printing.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
smoothly and evenly i guess... but how can you know if it got enough exposure? 
is there an optimal time per frame? sorry for asking so many questions...
2015-11-03 14:25 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
One can, at least I have, you need to bi pak raw stock with the film you want 
to print and shine a light on top of the synchronizer in a dark room and try to 
smoothly wind the film over the sprockets evenly. It takes practice, etc.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
you can contact print with a synchronizer?
2015-11-03 12:27 GMT-04:00 Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com>:
are you talking about a synchronizer?
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:08 AM, mary stark <maryst...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



Hi there,
I'm looking for a 16mm sync machine so I can contact print film. Just wondering 
if anyone in the UK has got one for sale or spare?
Best wishes,
Mary
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[Frameworks] 16mm gang sync machine

[mary stark]

Hi there,
I'm looking for a 16mm sync machine so I can contact print film. Just wondering 
if anyone in the UK has got one for sale or spare?
Best wishes,
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Re: [Frameworks] NEW DIRECTOR NEEDED for Millennium Film Workshop

[mary billyou]

very very funny!

a tempest in a teapot.

i doubt that the millenium will find a new director to helm that sinking
boat. unless the culture that surrounds the organization will take care of
itself like corruption does, eventually killing its host.

who would even dare step into the role? and from what i understand, on the
sidelines, that there is absolutely no transparency in the board and that
yes there has been no turnover in any leadership roles in i don't know how
long. not to speak ill of the dead, but apparently millenium's problems
weren't just howards' although he was the familiar scapegoat for many a
filmmaker.

my question is: what happens to all of the equipment in storage? it must be
given to a non-profit, correct? there was a lot of work put in to moving it
all from the mold-infested hole in the lower east side out to bushwick. its
all in good condition. filmmakers want to use it. do we have to start an
entirely new organization and raise the funds to buy the equipment? or will
this too be held for ransom?

mary billyou

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Nick Deamer <nick.dea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry last message sent by mistake
>
> Nick
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:56 PM, op <o...@thenowcorporation.com> wrote:
>
> hear, hear.
> owen
>
> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:04 AM, drawclose.com <snowbloods.para...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> It's funny, I've learned the most in terms of creative skills and art
> making from ppl whose passion has a curmudgeonly streak, one earned from
> hard experience with the work. That's why I like this listserv.
>
> Corollary - If my first concern is my own comfort, why did I become an
> artist?
>
> Jessica
>
> *
> http://www.drawclose.com
>
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:30 PM, k. a.r. <a_r...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> *'...I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already
> receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character
> assassination.Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many
> sources, i.e. young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space
> of negativity, where people were shamed and attacked over the most
> innocuous things..*
> *You should all maybe give this some thought.'*
>
> hahaha oh wow.
> I've been on this list since 96 or 97; in fact I got my first personal
> email specifically to join it.
>
> Jona, if you think this is bad, you have NO. IDEA. lol
>
> Frameworks is quite tame these days, there have been some MASSIVE
> disagreements, that went on and on for ever.
> And many written by some quite verbose people. Lots and lots and LOTS of
> words to make their point.
>
> It's too bad that your whole experience lasted 2 hours, because it makes
> me wonder about the attention span of youth.
> Is it really that much of an instant gratification generation that you get
> in, judge, and get out so quickly?
> That is really interesting to me. Some things take more time. A lot more
> time.
> I wonder what this world is changing into, and what the future will be
> like, with such an impatient generation.
> Curious.
>
> Also, if you choose to focus on only the negative, that is what you get.
> There are lots of posts, and honestly, I don't even notice that much
> negativity these days.
>
> Soyou get what you look for, I guess.
> I truly appreciate this list as a place to go to for giving and taking of
> information, and it's a great community.
> The film world would be a lesser place without it.
>
> MHO
>
> Kristie Reinders, B.F.A.
> Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions
> Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project
> The Mission, San Francisco, CA
>
> 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.'
> - - - Issac Asimov
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 00:27:55 -0600
> From: jonagerl...@gmail.com
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] NEW DIRECTOR NEEDED for Millennium Film Workshop
>
> Wow. I've been on this listserv for less than two hours, and I'm already
> receiving emails comprised of snarky infighting and character assassination.
>
> Honestly, it's my fault. I was warned. I've heard from many sources, i.e.
> young experimental filmmakers, that this listserv was a space of
> negativity, where people were shamed and attacked over the most innocuous
> things.
>
> Still, as a new filmmaker who draws inspiration from the traditions of
> experimental and independent film, I figured I'd sign up. I figured it
> couldn't be that bad, that I could surely draw inspiration from artists
> with a lifetime of experience, and that it could enrich my practice and
> inspire me.
>
> But, well, no. They were right, I was wrong.

Re: [Frameworks] vanderbeek

[mary billyou]

Its possible that someone at Electronic Arts Intermix might have a contact.
You could ask Rebecca Clemen.

Cheers,

Mary

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Pip Chodorov <framewo...@re-voir.com>
wrote:

> Hi Gene,
> Sadly, Bob died a few months ago.
> I have some of his photographs of Stan, as well as the 16mm film he shot
> on Stan for my dad's weekly show Camera Three. You can contact me off list.
> The estate is managed by Sara Vanderbeek but I don't if she has any of
> Hanson's photographs - she has mostly all of Stan's collages and artworks.
> Best, Pip
>
>
>
>
> At 17:01 -0600 17/09/15, Gene Youngblood wrote:
>
>> Friends,
>> Does anyone know who represents Stan Vanderbeek's estate? I need some
>> photos of Stan that were taken by Bob Hanson in the late 60s. Maybe a
>> contact for HansonŠ?
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[Frameworks] The Blind Field – essay on "Kissing Point" by Peggy Ahwesh

[mary billyou]

Dear Frameworker Friends,

I am happy to announce the publishing of my article *The Blind Field *in
The Journal of Digital Media Arts and Practice:
http://www.idmaajournal.org/?p=302

(Thank you Jen Proctor!)

The article is an extended version of my essay for Screen Slate on
Microscope Gallery's installation of *Kissing Point* by Peggy Ahwesh:
http://www.screenslate.com/whats-showing-today/wednesday-december-17



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Re: [Frameworks] countryside film

[mary billyou]

OK one last one:

Straw Dogs

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:08 PM, mary billyou mbill...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Wicker Man too, and lots of Hammer Horror movies

 On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:00 PM, mary billyou mbill...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://vimeo.com/15333125

 One of my movies...

 Cheers,

 Mary

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 One not yet mentioned: Ah, Liberty! by Ben Rivers.

 -JH

 Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:03 PM, fred truniger fred.truni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Austrian Film!
 Knittelfeld, by Gerhard Friedl! (see:
 http://www.sixpackfilm.com/en/catalogue/show/722)
 It's exactly what you are looking for. I guess there is a subtitled
 version.
 cheers, fred

 Am 13.07.15 um 22:58 schrieb Lawrence Brose:

 Definitely The Garden  by Derek Jarman a complex and hauntingly
 beautiful film filled with restrained rage



 Lawrence Brose
 (716) 491-9062

 On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Experimental-
 Maybe those early 70s S8 films of the British countryside by Derek
 Jarman, I always feel they contain menace in the pastoral views.
 This is the most ''famous'' one..

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi-HFQOsJcE

 2015-07-13 12:19 GMT-04:00 Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com:

  Post Tenebras Lux. Carlos Reygadas.

  Tim

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:04 AM, franco base frenk.ca...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Hi
 I'm looking for experimental films where the idyllic vision of the
 countryside is overturned. Films that show the violence and ignorance that
 reign in the little villages in opposition, for example, with the hippie
 vision of the countryside.

 Non experimental films are welcome also.
 I think to:
 Hunting Scenes from Bavaria little village
 La Poison
 Straw Dogs

  Thanks a lot.


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Re: [Frameworks] countryside film

[mary billyou]

https://vimeo.com/15333125

One of my movies...

Cheers,

Mary

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

 One not yet mentioned: Ah, Liberty! by Ben Rivers.

 -JH

 Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:03 PM, fred truniger fred.truni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Austrian Film!
 Knittelfeld, by Gerhard Friedl! (see:
 http://www.sixpackfilm.com/en/catalogue/show/722)
 It's exactly what you are looking for. I guess there is a subtitled
 version.
 cheers, fred

 Am 13.07.15 um 22:58 schrieb Lawrence Brose:

 Definitely The Garden  by Derek Jarman a complex and hauntingly
 beautiful film filled with restrained rage



 Lawrence Brose
 (716) 491-9062

 On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Experimental-
 Maybe those early 70s S8 films of the British countryside by Derek
 Jarman, I always feel they contain menace in the pastoral views.
 This is the most ''famous'' one..

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi-HFQOsJcE

 2015-07-13 12:19 GMT-04:00 Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com:

  Post Tenebras Lux. Carlos Reygadas.

  Tim

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:04 AM, franco base frenk.ca...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
 I'm looking for experimental films where the idyllic vision of the
 countryside is overturned. Films that show the violence and ignorance that
 reign in the little villages in opposition, for example, with the hippie
 vision of the countryside.

 Non experimental films are welcome also.
 I think to:
 Hunting Scenes from Bavaria little village
 La Poison
 Straw Dogs

  Thanks a lot.


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Re: [Frameworks] countryside film

[mary billyou]

The Wicker Man too, and lots of Hammer Horror movies

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:00 PM, mary billyou mbill...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://vimeo.com/15333125

 One of my movies...

 Cheers,

 Mary

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 One not yet mentioned: Ah, Liberty! by Ben Rivers.

 -JH

 Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 3:03 PM, fred truniger fred.truni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Austrian Film!
 Knittelfeld, by Gerhard Friedl! (see:
 http://www.sixpackfilm.com/en/catalogue/show/722)
 It's exactly what you are looking for. I guess there is a subtitled
 version.
 cheers, fred

 Am 13.07.15 um 22:58 schrieb Lawrence Brose:

 Definitely The Garden  by Derek Jarman a complex and hauntingly
 beautiful film filled with restrained rage



 Lawrence Brose
 (716) 491-9062

 On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Experimental-
 Maybe those early 70s S8 films of the British countryside by Derek
 Jarman, I always feel they contain menace in the pastoral views.
 This is the most ''famous'' one..

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi-HFQOsJcE

 2015-07-13 12:19 GMT-04:00 Tim Halloran televis...@hotmail.com:

  Post Tenebras Lux. Carlos Reygadas.

  Tim

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 13, 2015, at 1:04 AM, franco base frenk.ca...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi
 I'm looking for experimental films where the idyllic vision of the
 countryside is overturned. Films that show the violence and ignorance that
 reign in the little villages in opposition, for example, with the hippie
 vision of the countryside.

 Non experimental films are welcome also.
 I think to:
 Hunting Scenes from Bavaria little village
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 Straw Dogs

  Thanks a lot.


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Re: [Frameworks] Kid-friendly films?

[mary billyou]

Anything by Len Lye


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 ''Kubelka or Conrad flicker films'' Dont know about that, considering the
 pokemon thing...


 http://kotaku.com/5757570/the-banned-pokemon-episode-that-gave-children-seizures

 2015-07-13 9:39 GMT-04:00 Green, J R. (Ron Green) green...@osu.edu:

 Maybe:

 Broughton's THIS IS IT
 Anything by Robert Breer
 Ann Severson's ANIMALS RUNNING
 Gunvor Nelson's MY NAME IS OONA
 Ken Jacobs's OPTIC ANTICS [featuring Laurel and Hardy]
 Kubelka or Conrad flicker films
 Gehr's SERENE VELOCITY
 Awesh's MARTINA'S PLAYHOUSE [watch it first, of course]
 Wegman's Man Ray and Fay Ray videos
 Fischli and Weiss's THE WAY THINGS GO

 and, to counter hyperactive TV, perhaps Benning's RR??



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Re: [Frameworks] Kid-friendly films?

[mary billyou]

and Jennifer, Where Are You? by Leslie Thornton...

On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM, mary billyou mbill...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anything by Len Lye


 On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 ''Kubelka or Conrad flicker films'' Dont know about that, considering the
 pokemon thing...


 http://kotaku.com/5757570/the-banned-pokemon-episode-that-gave-children-seizures

 2015-07-13 9:39 GMT-04:00 Green, J R. (Ron Green) green...@osu.edu:

 Maybe:

 Broughton's THIS IS IT
 Anything by Robert Breer
 Ann Severson's ANIMALS RUNNING
 Gunvor Nelson's MY NAME IS OONA
 Ken Jacobs's OPTIC ANTICS [featuring Laurel and Hardy]
 Kubelka or Conrad flicker films
 Gehr's SERENE VELOCITY
 Awesh's MARTINA'S PLAYHOUSE [watch it first, of course]
 Wegman's Man Ray and Fay Ray videos
 Fischli and Weiss's THE WAY THINGS GO

 and, to counter hyperactive TV, perhaps Benning's RR??



 Ron Green
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 Columbus OH 43201
 614.421.2131


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Re: [Frameworks] film out to 16mm

[mary billyou]

Thank you for this information! I am doing the same *(eventually!!!) * with
my movie *GUN, HAT...* http://mbillyou.tumblr.com/

I'm glad to be a part of this listserv just for this kind of conversation!

All my best,

Mary

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Joe Ventress jrventr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Fotokem

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com
 wrote:

  I got very good quality 16mm film outs from Metropolis in New York.
 You can email Jack Rizzo for a price quote metroj...@hotmail.com.
 - Pip Chodorov


 At 9:30 -0500 6/05/15, Rob Christopher wrote:

 Is anyone capable of doing this anymore? Fotokem only does 35mm workflow
 now. The finished movie is 78 minutes.


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Re: [Frameworks] Aaton A-Minima to buy

[mary billyou]

I could probably hook you up with a seller here in the States. If you're
interested...

Mary

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Nicholas Kovats nkov...@gmail.com wrote:

 With the infamous A wind emulsion out setup developed in conjunction
 with Kodak.

 Will that A or B, Sir? :)

 http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=52190

 On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:
  this camera is allmost simular.
 
  Sadly, nothing is similar to the A-Minima.  It is a unique snowflake.
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[Frameworks] I'm moving my steenbeck: removing screen?

[mary billyou]

Hi everyone,

I'm moving my steenbeck from one room to another. Does anyone know how to
remove the screen? I've seen it propped on top of the editing deck before,
when Paul Tomasko was here, but I didn't see how he removed it or put it
back.

I have a call in to him, but he's not answering right now. Just thought I'd
ask if anyone here might know.

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Re: [Frameworks] tableau vivante : experimental film and single frames

[mary billyou]

You may want to check out my movie The Invalids: https://vimeo.com/39200497

Thank you!

Let me know what you think.

Mary

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Peter Greenaway?


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92-LPtzRfTQ

 2014-10-06 17:08 GMT-04:00 Rebekka Erin Moran rebekka.mo...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 I am researching a project of the use of the Tableau Vivant in
 experimental or avant-garde filmmaking (history, theory, etc).
 I am particularly interested in any examples of filmmakers that were
 investigating the tableau vivant as a reference to a film frame and not to
 a painting.
 Also any sub themes that may relate to tableau vivant as a durational
 film frame or living freeze frame, or a tableau vivant as a non-active
 scene/image shot stop motion or frame by frame (in camera or optical
 printed).

 Any suggestions for readings or names would be greatly appreciated!

 best,
 Rebekka




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Re: [Frameworks] tableau vivante : experimental film and single frames

[mary billyou]

Did any one mention Raul Ruíz? Esp *Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting*
and *Time
Regained?*

Cheers,
Mary

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 You may want to check out my movie The Invalids:
 https://vimeo.com/39200497

 Thank you!

 Let me know what you think.

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 wrote:

 Peter Greenaway?


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92-LPtzRfTQ

 2014-10-06 17:08 GMT-04:00 Rebekka Erin Moran rebekka.mo...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 I am researching a project of the use of the Tableau Vivant in
 experimental or avant-garde filmmaking (history, theory, etc).
 I am particularly interested in any examples of filmmakers that were
 investigating the tableau vivant as a reference to a film frame and not to
 a painting.
 Also any sub themes that may relate to tableau vivant as a durational
 film frame or living freeze frame, or a tableau vivant as a non-active
 scene/image shot stop motion or frame by frame (in camera or optical
 printed).

 Any suggestions for readings or names would be greatly appreciated!

 best,
 Rebekka




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Re: [Frameworks] Traveling With Photo Chemistry

[Mary Stark]

I managed to take unopened photographic chemicals packed in a suitcase that 
went in the aeroplane hold from Manchester to Barcelona.

Check with your airline. The other option I considered if you have time is to 
buy stuff online and have it posted to the address you will be at abroad…

Good luck!

Mary

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http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/
Tel: 07828450979


On 23 May 2014, at 19:25, Heath Iverson h...@st-andrews.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Frameworkers,
 
 I'm wondering if anyone has experience with air travel and photo chemistry. 
 I'll be flying from the UK to New York next week and I have E-6 3 bath kit 
 that I'd like to bring with me. Obviously, I can't carry it on; however, 
 given its toxicity, I wonder if the airlines are even going to allow me to 
 check the stuff. Any thoughts?
 
 Best,
 
 Heath
 
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[Frameworks] 16mm colour prints from negs

[mary stark]

Hello frameworkers,

Is there anywhere in the UK that make 16mm colour prints from colour negative 
film?

Many thanks,
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Re: [Frameworks] FCPX Plugin to remove dust and dirt?

[Mary Stark]

The clone stamp in After Effects removes marks here’s a tutorial 
https://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/removing-an-object-with-clone-stamp

Mary Stark


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On 26 Mar 2014, at 20:06, Francisco Torres fjtorre...@gmail.com wrote:

 After Effects had a trick for that, choosing an area of the frame and clean 
 it with motion tracking, dont know if FC could do anything like that.
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Chris Freeman 
 christopherbriggsfree...@gmail.com wrote:
 I shot some footage with my DSLR but had some dirt on my lens.  Anyone have 
 experience / recommendations with Final Cut X plugins that will remove it?
 
 Since it was on the lens, it's (possibly) different than removing dirt from 
 film scans, since that only appears for a few frames.  This is constantly in 
 the shot.
 
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[Frameworks] 16mm magnetic film for audio

[Mary Stark]

Hello frameworkers,

I’ve been given some reels of 16mm magnetic film and was wondering if anyone 
knows whether it’s possible to remove the magnetic coating somehow? Have tried 
bleach and water which has done nothing. 

Thanks,

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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm magnetic film for audio

[Mary Stark]

Thanks Scott I’ll try the acetone, that’s basically nail varnish remover? 
Francisco, the base is clear as I’ve scratched at it with a pin. Wondering if 
there are chemicals which will remove the coating like when bleach can just 
remove the emulsion from film, but not sure what the magnetic coating is 
actually made of...

Mary

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 13:51, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 It's designed to be as hard as possible to remove the coating as possible,
 though you could try acetone if it's polyester-based stuff.  If it's acetate,
 acetone will dissolve the base.
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Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film

[Mary]

Has anyone mentioned Babette Magnolte's film yet?
Cheers,
Mary

Sent from my NOOK

Peter Snowdon pe...@redrice.net wrote:

Jon Jost has cited Turner as a some-time favourite of his, and Dennis Grunes 
made an explicit connection between them in his review of Jost's 2006 movie, 
Passages:
http://grunes.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/passages-jon-jost-2006/

Envoyé de mon iPad

 Le 26 févr. 2014 à 10:16, Aaron Juneau aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk a écrit :
 
  
 Dear frameworks members,
  
 I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that somebody at 
 Frameworks might be able to help me with some research I'm undertaking with 
 regard to an article we're publishing in a couple issues time. Essentially 
 the article will focus on J.M.W Turner's influence on film. I was wondering 
 whether somebody at Frameworks could advise on some interesting, perhaps 
 less known filmmakers who have been influenced by him? I'm really looking at 
 hard fact and solid evidence as opposed to conjecture.
  
 Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
  
 My very best,
  
  
  
 Aaron Juneau
 Editorial Assistant
 TATE ETC. magazine
 20 John Islip Street 
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 London 
 SW1P 4RG 
 T: +44 (0)20 7821 8606
 F: +44 (0)20 7887 3940 
 E: aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk
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Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film

[Mary Billyou]

Babette Magnolte's film is called The Sky On Location.

http://www.nytimes.com/movies/movie/158358/The-Sky-On-Location/overview

 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Turner and Film
 


Has anyone mentioned Babette Magnolte's film yet?
Cheers,
Mary

Sent from my NOOK

Peter Snowdon pe...@redrice.net wrote:


Jon Jost has cited Turner as a some-time favourite of his, and Dennis Grunes 
made an explicit connection between them in his review of Jost's 2006 movie, 
Passages:
http://grunes.wordpress.com/2007/02/03/passages-jon-jost-2006/

Envoyé de mon iPad

Le 26 févr. 2014 à 10:16, Aaron Juneau aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk a écrit :


  
Dear frameworks members,
 
I'm contacting from Tate Etc. Magazine, London in the hope that somebody at 
Frameworks might be able to help me with some research I'm undertaking with 
regard to an article we're publishing in a couple issues
time. Essentially the article will focus on J.M.W Turner's influence on film. I 
was wondering whether somebody at Frameworks could advise on some interesting, 
perhaps less known filmmakers who have been influenced by him? I'm really 
looking at hard fact and
solid evidence as opposed to conjecture.
 
Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
 
My very best,
 
 
 
Aaron Juneau
Editorial Assistant
TATE ETC. magazine
20 John Islip Street
Millbank
London
SW1P 4RG
T: +44 (0)20 7821 8606
F: +44 (0)20 7887 3940
E: aaron.jun...@tate.org.uk
www.tate.org.uk/tateetc
follow us on Twitter: @TATEETCmag 
 
 
 
  


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Re: [Frameworks] Dara Greenwald videos?

[Mary Billyou]

Hi All!,
I've got Women's Punk Art Making Party, of which Dara did the section, Puppet 
Girl. Which is pretty damn awesome. From 1993.

Here it is: https://vimeo.com/35732187


Cheers,
Mary

 
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To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dara Greenwald videos?
 


I had a different email address for Josh which I just sent Scott off list. For 
the screening of Bouncing in the Corner at this past CUFF he just had us 
download it from the vimeo page Chris just posted.



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On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 12:49 PM, chris bravo iamdir...@gmail.com wrote:

check here, as well: http://vimeo.com/daragreenwald/videos/page:1/sort:date


if what you are looking for is not there (the list looks complete to me, but I 
am not sure) you can get in touch with Josh through the interference archive: 
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On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Cari Machet carimac...@gmail.com wrote:

Electronic Arts Intermix (EAI)
535 West 22nd Street, 5th floor
New York, NY 10011
www.eai.org

they will know



On 1/7/14, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.net wrote:
 I don't think they're at the Video Data Bank (as Oona suggested), but they
 should be!

 I'd contact her partner, Josh McPhee.  I don't have his info, but I think
 he's findable on the web.  Maybe Dara's website has been updated with info
 on renting her work.

 One of her pieces showed in a retrospective program at the Chicago
 Underground Film Festival last year.  Check with them (Bryan Wendorf).

 pf



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 Does anyone know where to find (the late) Dara Greenwald's videos for
 rental?

 thanks
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Re: [Frameworks] projector-less film loops

[Mary Stark]

Hi Rebecca,

I have been working with 16mm film as installation using loops, fresnel lenses 
and film as a sculptural material. If you are interested please look at my 
website and blog 
http://www.marystark.co.uk/
http://interwovenpractices.co.uk/

Best wishes,

Mary Stark

Tel: 07828450979


On 17 Dec 2013, at 20:27, Jonathan Walley wall...@denison.edu wrote:

 Rebecca, et. al.,
 
 After re-reading your post, and reading Scott's response, it strikes me that 
 you may have been looking for information about early (e.g. silent, 
 primitive?) film systems that involved viewing 16mm film without lens or 
 projector. Your use of the term installation made me assume expanded 
 cinema, film installation, etc., but then there's your reference to the 
 zoetrope, which suggests that you're looking for something further back in 
 history. Of course, the zoetrope did not use film of any kind. What's more, 
 16mm film wasn't invented until 1923, by which time projection - with lenses 
 - was, of course, standard practice in film exhibition. I'm not aware of any 
 viewing systems for 16mm that don't employ at least lenses: flatbed editors 
 don't quite project the images, at least not in the same way a projector 
 does, and devices like Moviolas and Moviscopes don't involve projection - the 
 film image is simply magnified into a viewer, not unlike the Kinetsoscope. 
 But these systems are used to edit film reels, not to show loops. And they 
 all use lenses. 
 
 Specifying your research project would be helpful - can we have a little more 
 detail?
 Jonathan
 
 Dr. Jonathan Walley
 Associate Professor
 Department of Cinema
 Denison University
 wall...@denison.edu
 
 
 On Dec 17, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
 
 Well, the first loop system was the Edison Kinetoscope but that was 35mm..
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[Frameworks] 30 – 30 Vision / Thurs March 1st @ 7pm

[Mary Billyou]

At 7pm on March 1st, 2012, for the exhibit, Hospitality, Round Robin Collective 
will present 30-30 Vision, a program of experimental films and videos exploring 
medicine's charged relationship to the body. Showing work by both mature and 
emerging filmmakers, the works delve into fantasies surrounding photography's 
proximity to rational study, the social structures control, and left-over 
institutional spaces of empty corridors and rooms. Filmmakers Barbara Hammer, 
Caitlin Berrigan, Katherin McInnis, and Mary Billyou will be in attendance for 
conversation afterward.
Program is as follows:

Vital Statistics of a Citizen, Simply Obtained,Martha Rosler, 1977 (shown as a 
loop)
1-9,Mary Billyou, 2008
Concoctions, Caitlin Berrigan, 2004
Underexposed: The Temple of the Fetus, Kathy High, 1994
Shelter,Katherin McInnis, 2012
Sanctus,Barbara Hammer, 1990

TRT: 105 mins.
This screening is supported by a grant from NYSCA's Electronic Media 
Presentation Funds and is sponsored by Union Docs.

Hospitality is a current exhibit of the Round Robin Collective, at Arts @ 
Renaissance, a new art space of St. Nick's Alliance in Williamsburg, located in 
the former Greenpoint Hospital. Open hours during events only. Located at 2 
Kingsland Ave., Garden Level, Brooklyn, four blocks from the Graham Ave. L Stop.
 
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