Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
You check out my Film, called Scratches Inc. made around 1972 with soundtrack by the Fugs. Dominic On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net wrote: And look for early films by Pierre Hebert! I saw a live scratch animation performance at the Ottawa Animation Festival back in the 1990s. Ruth http://www.randommotion.com blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote: Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who sent links! I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested reading materials by crackpot crafters + others! I sure there are more out there... Tess On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09 Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
I did a variety of techniques on a film I did about 4 years ago, www. *youtube*.com/watch?v=gRiGzHKpUaY Watchmaker, Tom Fun Orchestra. On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Dominic Angerame dominic.anger...@gmail.com wrote: You check out my Film, called Scratches Inc. made around 1972 with soundtrack by the Fugs. Dominic On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Ruth Hayes randomr...@comcast.net wrote: And look for early films by Pierre Hebert! I saw a live scratch animation performance at the Ottawa Animation Festival back in the 1990s. Ruth http://www.randommotion.com blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote: Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who sent links! I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested reading materials by crackpot crafters + others! I sure there are more out there... Tess On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09 Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
And look for early films by Pierre Hebert! I saw a live scratch animation performance at the Ottawa Animation Festival back in the 1990s. Ruth http://www.randommotion.com blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote: Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who sent links! I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested reading materials by crackpot crafters + others! I sure there are more out there... Tess On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09 Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09 Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
Harry smith - early abstractions. נשלח מה-iPhone שלי ב-26 באוג 2015, בשעה 00:38, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.net כתב/ה: “Chemical Scratching” - I’m sticking to that. Yeah. On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu wrote: But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t… On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick (and Tess).. I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image. hope that helps, Warren On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.net wrote: Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985) Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999) Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951) But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface. Patrick F. On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu http://crlel...@uwm.edu/ wrote: Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com http://frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com/ on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com http://tess.takaha...@gmail.com/ Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com http://FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com/ https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who sent links! I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested reading materials by crackpot crafters + others! I sure there are more out there... Tess On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09 Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Hi Tess, Vicky's email below. She also just completed her PhD, which is on 'Full-Body Film', Best wishes, Nicky. vsmi...@students.ucreative.ac.uk -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:59 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films Thanks, all, for putting these films on my radar - and to those of you who sent links! I'm looking forward to tracking them down - along with various suggested reading materials by crackpot crafters + others! I sure there are more out there... Tess On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:27 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote: Vicky Smith's films are rotoscoped scratch films on clear celluloid, later with addition of body fluids. They are beautiful. Nicky. -Original Message- From: Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:09 Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] titles of Scratch films
Hi Tess, Hy Hirsh's Scratch Pad (1961). Possibly also a few shots in his La Couleur de la Forme. More on Hy Hirsh: centerforvisualmusic.org/Hirsh/CVM-HirshFilmography.htm Cindy Keefer Center for Visual Music www.centerforvisualmusic.org Contact: cvmaccess (at) gmail.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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oh, and Su Friedrich's Gently Down the Stream On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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*Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND.* *Robert Huot's SCRATCH* *Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED* *Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS* *I'll keep thinkin'* *Scott* On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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There's Rey Parla's films from the 90s: Sporadic Germinatipn Rumba Abstracta M Sent from my iPhone On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Hi Tess, I and other members of Olympia, WA. Crackpot Crafters (Devon Damonte, Jason Gutz, Eric Sarai, Meg Myhre, and several others) have been doing a lot of scratching on 16mm and 35, among other techniques, but not necessarily completing them as finished films. More likely projecting loops of them in live performance venues as expanded cinema. We have a Facebook page with some clips and images, and I've posted some of my loops to my vimeo page. (www.vimeo.com/ruthhayes) You might also check out the chapter on Direct Animation in Maureen Furniss' Animation Bible for which Devon wrote a significant chunk, as I understand it! Best, Ruth http://www.randommotion.com blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr On Aug 25, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
Some other Brakhage films that employ scratching: earliest example (briefly) is in Reflections On Black (1955); later, more substantially, in He was born, he suffered, he died (1974); and later yet, several films with words scratched over image, I . . . Dreaming (1988), For Marilyn (1992) and Night Mulch and Very (2001). And there was the Ellipses series of so-called scratch and stain films : . . . Reels One to Five (1998). Marilyn Brakhage On 25-Aug-15, at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Sharits' S:TREAM:S:S:ECTION:S:ECTION:S:S:ECTIONED. And 8 billion other films. (This is going to end up being a LONG list.) On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott MacDonald smacd...@hamilton.edu wrote: Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND. Robert Huot's SCRATCH Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS I'll keep thinkin' Scott On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Much of Aldo Tambellini’s early film work: Black Is Blackout and others On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Scott MacDonald smacd...@hamilton.edu wrote: Su Friedrich's GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM and THE TIES THAT BIND. Robert Huot's SCRATCH Diana Barrie's MAGIC EXPLAINED Taka Iimura's 1 TO 60 SECONDS I'll keep thinkin' Scott On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Hi, Tess— Norman McLaren, “Blinkity Blank.” Maybe some other McLaren films? --Bill From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of Tess Takahashi Sent: August 25, 2015 3:09 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Tess, I think Pat O'Neill's COREOPSIS also employed scratching. On 8/25/15 4:11 PM, William Wees, Dr. wrote: Hi, Tess— Norman McLaren, “Blinkity Blank.” Maybe some other McLaren films? --Bill *From:*FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On Behalf Of *Tess Takahashi *Sent:* August 25, 2015 3:09 PM *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List *Subject:* [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn't let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel's practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film Her Silent Seaming -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in A Lecture, its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from Lana Turner to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What's with Roger Beebe's premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Paul Bush http://www.paulbushfilms.com/films/scratchingdiagram.htm Zig Zag (1994) by Ricard Reeves https://vimeo.com/8713615 there are MANY MANY more out there. I believe there's a section in Cecile Starr and Robert Russett's Experimental Animation book... right? good luck, Warren On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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³Chemical Scratching² - I¹m sticking to that. Yeah. On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu wrote: But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn¹t On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick (and Tess).. I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image. hope that helps, Warren On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.net wrote: Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985) Naomi Uman¹s Removed (1999) Isidore Isou¹s Venom and Eternity (1951) But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface. Patrick F. On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu http://crlel...@uwm.edu/ wrote: Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn¹t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel¹s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film ³Her Silent Seaming² -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in ³A Lecture,² its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from ³Lana Turner² to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What¹s with Roger Beebe¹s premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com http://frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com/ on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com http://tess.takaha...@gmail.com/ Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com http://FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com/ https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films
Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985) Naomi Uman¹s Removed (1999) Isidore Isou¹s Venom and Eternity (1951) But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface. Patrick F. On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu wrote: Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn¹t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel¹s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film ³Her Silent Seaming² -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in ³A Lecture,² its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from ³Lana Turner² to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What¹s with Roger Beebe¹s premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Hey Patrick (and Tess).. I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image. hope that helps, Warren On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.net wrote: Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985) Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999) Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951) But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface. Patrick F. On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.edu wrote: Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee -- *From:* FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List *Subject:* [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... -- ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t… On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.commailto:warrencocker...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick (and Tess).. I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image. hope that helps, Warren On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.netmailto:patrick.fr...@att.net wrote: Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985) Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999) Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951) But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface. Patrick F. On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.eduhttp://crlel...@uwm.edu/ wrote: Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.comhttp://frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com/ on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.comhttp://tess.takaha...@gmail.com/ Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttp://FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com/https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Schneeman's Fuses has some scratching of photographed film. Also in this vein there is Peyote Queen by Storm de Hirsch. There are expanded animation works by for e.g. Greg Pope, Bruce McClure, Dirk de Bruyn - all of whom employ scratching of and removal of emulsion. For my own part I am currently scratching into fogged 16mm neg, although I am rubbing more than scratching to create the effect of soft shapes rather than jagged lines, Vicky From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of Patrick Friel [patrick.fr...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:38 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films “Chemical Scratching” - I’m sticking to that. Yeah. On 8/25/15 4:26 PM, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.eduUrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: But her Hand Eye Coordination certainly counts, even if Removed doesn’t… On Aug 25, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Warren Cockerham warrencocker...@gmail.comUrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: Hey Patrick (and Tess).. I thought that Naomi Uman's REMOVED was a scratched film for many years too. But, she told me a few years ago that she applied (clear?) nail polish to the parts of the images she wanted to keep -- frame by frame - for many months. Then, she gave the film a bleach bath... I guess that's why there are faint images of bodies left on the bleached out portions of the film and cracks and crevices on the other parts of the image. hope that helps, Warren On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Patrick Friel patrick.fr...@att.netUrlBlockedError.aspx wrote: Animated scratching: Broken Down Film (Osamu Tezuka, 1985) Naomi Uman’s Removed (1999) Isidore Isou’s Venom and Eternity (1951) But, these and the other suggestions so far, um, only scratch the surface. Patrick F. On 8/25/15 3:44 PM, Carl E Bogner crlel...@uwm.eduUrlBlockedError.aspx http://crlel...@uwm.edu/ wrote: Tess, hi - I had a colleague in the Film Department, recently transplanted to Ann Arbor, who wouldn’t let a frame of her film go through the gate unless she had scratched on it. I overstate but Naz Dincel’s practice relentlessly involves scratching on her film -- or, that is to say, involves relentless scratching. Her film “Her Silent Seaming” -- to cite an example -- was a Jury Award winner at FLEX this year and also screened at Images, among other places. (I think she has her ear to the ground so she may respond to you off-list? Naz, contact Tess.) Also there is that propositional film that Frampton talked about in “A Lecture,” its constantly inscribed scratch transplanting what the film is about from “Lana Turner” to that very scratch, if I recall correctly. What’s with Roger Beebe’s premature fatigue? Man! Carl Milwaukee From: FrameWorks frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.comUrlBlockedError.aspx http://frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com/ on behalf of Tess Takahashi tess.takaha...@gmail.comUrlBlockedError.aspx http://tess.takaha...@gmail.com/ Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:08 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List Subject: [Frameworks] Titles of scratch films I'm doing something on films that employ scratching directly on celluloid like Brakhage's Chinese Series, David Gatten's Fragrant Portals..., Dona Cameron's World Trade Alphabet, Barbel Neubauer's work, Pierre Hebert's work, Storm DeHirsch's Peyote Queen, and Len Lye's Free Radicals. What am I missing? Old and New? Bonus points it it's set to African drums... ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comUrlBlockedError.aspx http://FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com/ https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comUrlBlockedError.aspx https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comUrlBlockedError.aspx https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comUrlBlockedError.aspxhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
