NFS Client..attr caching..

2006-10-10 Thread Jeff Mohler

here at work we want to compile deep trees of code on Fbsd boxes, but
we are finding that the compiles on local disk are faster than via NFS
(very very fast/new Netapp boxes) on the FreeBSD boxes (single spindle
SATA drives).

However, cross-compiling the same code on a linux box over NFS to the
very same Netapp boxes is way faster than Fbsd on local disk.

Im trying of course to get the mount options/etc that the linux boxes
use, but any clues on how to mount a 150k file deep source tree to
most effectively cache getattr/readdir metadata which seems to be an
enourmous percentage of the total NFS calls in the compile process.

Thanks in advance..as I get more data.
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Error upgrading python from ports

2006-10-10 Thread Heinrich Rebehn

Hi list,

/usr/ports/UPDATING reads:

20061009: 

  AFFECTS: users of any ports using Python 

  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 




  After upgrading of lang/python, you must rebuild all its consumer 

  ports to make them get ready to Python 2.5. 




  To do this, you will need to: 

pkgdb -uf  cd /usr/ports/lang/python  make 
upgrade-site-packages



Doing this yields:

---  Updating the pkgdb
[Rebuilding the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 147 
packages found (-0 +147) 
... 
done]

Please install sysutils/portupgrade.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/python.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [/usr/ports/lang/python] # pkg_info -Ix portupgrade
portupgrade-2.1.3.3_1,2 FreeBSD ports/packages administration and 
management tool s



What's wrong?

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re: problems with a LaCie USB disk

2006-10-10 Thread Thierry Lacoste
I have further informations about a problem I described some days ago.

With FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 on a Dell PowerEdge 850,
when I plug a brand new LaCie 500 GB USB disk I have this:

Sep 28 18:24:57 polaris kernel: umass0: LaCie Group.SA BigDisk Extreme, rev 
2.00/1.18, addr 2
Sep 28 18:24:59 polaris kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Sep 28 18:24:59 polaris kernel: da0: LaCie BigDisk Extreme  Fixed Direct 
Access SCSI-4 device
Sep 28 18:24:59 polaris kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
Sep 28 18:24:59 polaris kernel: da0: 476950MB (976794112 512 byte sectors: 
255H 63S/T 60802C)

After 'newfs /dev/da0' I'm able to mount it and use it.
When I unplug it (after unmounting) and shut it down I'm unable to use it 
again.

Here's all I get when I plug it in again:
Oct  4 12:18:28 polaris kernel: ugen0: Texas Instruments TUSB6250 Boot 
Device, rev 2.00/3.00, addr 2

I tried with two different new LaCie disks and I have the same behavior.

I tried both disks on a Dell Precision 650 with 6.1-RELEASE-p10
and everything works fine.

I'm really confused and I would be grateful if someone could give me a clue.

Regards,
Thierry.
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Re: How-to maintain upgrade??

2006-10-10 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 00:38, Gary Kline wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 06:35:37PM -0400, Gerard Seibert wrote:
  On Monday 09 October 2006 17:53, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 
  I kind of do the same thing on a weekly basis. I created a shell script
  that runs the following:
 
  cd /usr/ports/distfiles # Change to ports distfile 
  directory
  rm -rdf *   # Clean it out

   Why, exactly, you remove the distfiles?  (I'm thnking of times
   when I haven't moved the hard-to-retrieve files [JAVA, e.g]
   to my other FBSD servers.)  Is there something lurking there
   than might muck up builds??

I just like to remove files that are neither needed or more than likely 
outdated. No special reason other than that. I keep the files needed to 
build JAVA in a separate directory and copy them to the distfiles directory 
when required. It is pretty much up to the end user how they want to 
maintain their ports system I suppose.

  /usr/local/sbin/portsclean -CDLP# make sure the ports are clean

   I do this after an upgrade.  ---Wouldn't hurt here, tho.

  /usr/sbin/portsnap cron # Run portsnap from CRON
  /usr/sbin/portsnap update   # Install new updated ports tree
  /usr/local/bin/portmanager -u -l -y # Run portmanager to update the
  system

   I've come to prefer p'manager to portupgrade; each run takes
   endless hours--at least three days.  Do you know if there is
   a way to upgrade only the dependencies that need it??  I used
   -f and portmanager seemed to upgrade eerything.  Yes, it may
   have been my imagination!

Portmanager -f will rebuild the system. I would only do that if it was 
absolutely necessary. The normal: portmanager -u -l -y will only update out 
of date items, create a log file and gives portmanager permission to handle 
moved items.

  I only run this weekly. If something like Open Office needs to be
  updated alone with KDE for instance, my system would not complete the
  process in 24 hours. Updating the ports tree while running an updating
  utility like portmanager or portupgrade is generally considered a bad
  thing.

   Thanks for your script ideas,

   gary


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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Michael S
I didn't follow all the dialog. But if the only
thing desired is a cheapskate webmail interface, as
the title suggests, would Usermin be an option?

--- jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, I did everything mentioned in that HOWTO. 
 Still no luck.  Following
  someone else's advice, I tried to install
 Thunderbird on another machine,
  and connect to the server on port 143.  It failed.
 
  D.
 
 
 try to telnet port 143, if you can't connect it
 means you don't have an IMAP
 server running, i suggest you use dovecot or
 courier-imap,  i prefer dovecot
 though.
 
 HTH
 
 *jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED]* a �crit :
 
 
 
  On 10/9/06, Desmond Coughlan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Yep, I've got that .. I tried logging in, and it
 took me directly to
   htdocs/index.html.
  
   Is it because the db isn't configured properly
 ?.
  
   D.
  
 
  were you able to  install the roundcube database?
 did you configure
  db.inc.php?
  just follow this howto http://fak3r.com/?p=67 this
 is the same howto i've
  used.
 
  hth
 
   *jan gestre  [EMAIL PROTECTED]* a �crit :
  
  
  
   On 10/8/06, jan gestre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
   
   
On 10/6/06, Desmond Coughlan 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 you may want to try roundcube
 http://www.roundcube.net although it's
 still on beta the interface's rocks, nothing
 you ever experienced before,
 certainly cooler than squirrelmail with AJAX
 like interface.


 Interesting... OK, I've got roundcube
 installed, the tables are
 created, postgreSQL is running, apache is
 recompiled for PhP4 (which is
 installed also) ... oh, and I've installed
 IMAP4.

 Now what ?

 My question, I suppose, is .. what is the
 address used to access the
 web interface?


you need to configure main.inc.php and
 db.inc.php, usually just your
username will do but if you can't, try
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  
   look for this part in
 roundcubemail/config/main.inc.php :
  
   // Automatically add this domain to user names
 for login
   // Only for IMAP servers that require full
 e-mail addresses for login
   // Specify an array with 'host' = 'domain'
 values to support multiple
   hosts
   $rcmail_config['username_domain'] = '';
  
   // This domain will be used to form e-mail
 addresses of new users
   // Specify an array with 'host' = 'domain'
 values to support multiple
   hosts
   $rcmail_config['mail_domain'] = ' sample.org';
  
   just replace sample.org with your fqdn and your
 done!
  
   username: user1
   password: *
  
   HTH
  
  
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Re: How to change all /bin/bash at /etc/passwd to /sbin/nologin?

2006-10-10 Thread Alex Zbyslaw

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I would not recommend using vipw [...] to change your users' shells.
 


Why not?

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Re: How to change all /bin/bash at /etc/passwd to /sbin/nologin?

2006-10-10 Thread Shantanoo Mahajan
+++ Alex Zbyslaw [freebsd] [10-10-06 11:57 +0100]:
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| I would not recommend using vipw [...] to change your users' shells.
|  
| Why not?
| 
| --Alex

man pw
and look for '-s' option
Though it many need little bit of scripting. This may be useful to
automate the process. But if for one time change, I would prefer vipw.

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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Desmond Coughlan
X-No-Archive: true
   
   try to telnet port 143, if you can't connect it means you don't have an 
IMAP server 
   
  Thanks, yes I _thought_ that I had installed the Cyrus server from the ports 
collection
   
  A manual install is running, as I write these words.
   
  D.


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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Desmond Coughlan
X-No-Archive: true
   
  *sigh*
   
rachi# ./configure --with-bdb=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.5 
--with-sasl=/usr/local/include/sasl
...
checking for sasl/sasl.h... no
  configure: error: Cannot continue without libsasl2.
  Get it from ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus-mail/.

  But ... 
   
rachi# ls /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h
  /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h
   
  D.


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Re: How-to maintain upgrade??

2006-10-10 Thread Robert Huff

Gerard Seibert writes:

  Why, exactly, you remove the distfiles?
  
  I just like to remove files that are neither needed or more than likely 
  outdated.

Are you aware of the DD option for portsclean?


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RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Desmond Coughlan
X-No-Archive: true
   
   uninstall cyrus and install dovecot from the ports tree. its small,
 lightweight, and fast.
 
 are you trying to install stuff without using the ports tree?
   
  Yeah. I used to do Solaris admin (Jesus, you'd never know it...), and usually 
prefer installing software the ./configure -- make  make install route.  
Especially since a ports install doesn't tell you anything about where the 
software is put
   
  D.
   
  
 


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Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Jonathan McKeown
The Subject: header has gradually grown to:

 Subject: Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail 
interface

Please, please, edit it or use an email client that does. It's in danger of 
getting silly now.

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Re: Something Like Beagle

2006-10-10 Thread Tom Grove

backyard wrote:

--- Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Is there something like beagle that runs on FreeBSD?
 If not is it 
something that people would like to see ported?


-Tom




Beagle the personal data indexer, or open beagle the
evolutionary computation system?

The personel data indexer seems cool to me. the
evolutionary computation system isn't something I
would personally find useful.

my two cents


-brian

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I am referring to the data indexer.  I understand that it uses something 
called iNotify within the Linux kernel and that is why it may not be a 
very nice port to *BSD.  I am wondering if it would be possible to use 
something like kqueue to notify the calling program of a disk write like 
iNotify does.


Just throwing out thought because I think that a desktop search tool 
would be well received with the desktop BSD community.


-Tom
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dovecot installed

2006-10-10 Thread Desmond Coughlan
Better ?  :)
  
Sorry, I'm using yahoo and IE.  It sucks.
   
  D.


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Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: RE : Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Eric
Desmond Coughlan wrote:
 X-No-Archive: true

   *sigh*

 rachi# ./configure --with-bdb=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.5 
 --with-sasl=/usr/local/include/sasl
 ...
 checking for sasl/sasl.h... no
   configure: error: Cannot continue without libsasl2.
   Get it from ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/cyrus-mail/.
 
   But ... 

 rachi# ls /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h
   /usr/local/include/sasl/sasl.h

uninstall cyrus and install dovecot from the ports tree. its small,
lightweight, and fast.

are you trying to install stuff without using the ports tree?
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bind problem

2006-10-10 Thread Robin Tiwari
i've configured dns server in freeBSD 6.1 but when i query the server it
wont resolve my domain name. i've added in resolv.conf also and my bind
daemon is also running without any errors. i couldnt figure out the
problem. if any suggestion please help me


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Re: problems ssh'ing debug1: An invalid name was supplied (OSX client)

2006-10-10 Thread David Robillard

any clues why ssh is hanging before a prompt is provided from the
server side. this prompt stalling behavior is only happening when I
am coming from my OSX ssh client. Any clues on this? I have never see
this betwe.


I had this problem when DNS was broken for the FreeBSD server and the
MacOS X client. Make sure the DNS you're using can resolve both
forward and reverse for the client and the server. Then your ssh
session will be fast and free of this error.

Regards,

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Re: bind problem

2006-10-10 Thread Lothar Braun
Hi Robin,

On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:22, Robin Tiwari wrote:
 i've configured dns server in freeBSD 6.1 but when i query the server it
 wont resolve my domain name. i've added in resolv.conf also and my bind
 daemon is also running without any errors. i couldnt figure out the
 problem. if any suggestion please help me

Can you send us your configuration files (or at least the important parts of 
them)?

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aclocal19 doesn't find macros

2006-10-10 Thread Lothar Braun
Hi list,

i'm trying to work on a configure.ac which contains the line 

AM_PATH_XML2(2.4.0,,AC_MSG_ERROR([*** LibXML version $XML_VERSION not 
found!]))

When i process it with aclocal15 everything works fine. But if i take 
aclocal19 for that job, i'll get the error message:

aclocal:configure.ac:8: warning: macro `AM_PATH_XML2' not found in library

This seems to be because of 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/]$ aclocal19 --print-ac-dir
/usr/local/share/aclocal19
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/]$ aclocal15 --print-ac-dir
/usr/local/share/aclocal

If i run

aclocal19 --acdir=/usr/local/share/aclocal i get the message

aclocal:configure.ac:3: warning: macro `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE' not found in library

What can i do to make that work (using aclocal15 isn't an option because 
automake19 won't work together with it)?

Cheers,
Lothar


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Re: Re: mount_msdosfs 240G

2006-10-10 Thread Kevin Sanders

On 10/9/06, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Monday 09 October 2006 18:43, Kevin Sanders wrote:
 On 9/26/06, Alistair Sutton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 26/09/06, sanya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I had a similar problem when trying to mount a 180G USB drive.
 
  Recompiling my kernel with the MSDOSFS_LARGE option allowed me to
  mount the drive.

 I wonder why this isn't the default?

because support for this is not deemed stable in environments that have X
number of files in the file system, where X is a number i cannot remember
right now, but its a lot more than i have or ever will have.


Good to know.  It looks like there are a couple PR's related to large
MSDOSFS's.  I have a 400gb USB drive that I can use to check these
problems out with if I have time this weekend.
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Re: unable to find makeobjops.pl

2006-10-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was reading about kernel objects in the FreeBSD Architecture Handbook
 and noticed that there is no src/sys/kern/makeobjops.pl  in my src tree.
 The section I was looking at is 3.3.5 . Anyone knows where it went?

Looks like it was turned into an awk script when perl was removed from
the base system.

 How often is the Architecture book updated?

Depends.  Little details like this can be easily overlooked.
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Re: problems ssh'ing debug1: An invalid name was supplied (OSX client)

2006-10-10 Thread Lothar Braun
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 16:29, David Robillard wrote:
  any clues why ssh is hanging before a prompt is provided from the
  server side. this prompt stalling behavior is only happening when I
  am coming from my OSX ssh client. Any clues on this? I have never see
  this betwe.

 I had this problem when DNS was broken for the FreeBSD server and the
 MacOS X client. Make sure the DNS you're using can resolve both
 forward and reverse for the client and the server. Then your ssh
 session will be fast and free of this error.

If you're not able (or don't want to =)) fix the DNS, you can reconfigure the 
sshd on the server.
Add

UseDNS no

to it's /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restart the ssh daemon (this will make sshd 
stop to look up the hostnames of the connecting clients)

Best regards,
Lothar


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Re: How does useradd determine the default mailbox/maildir location for new users

2006-10-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Niek Dekker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am running Exim 4.62 MTA on FBSD 6.0_release.
 When I create a new user using useradd, a mailbox file for the new
 user is created in /var/mail.

I assume you mean adduser(8).

 As I am using Maildir with maildirs in /var/mail, I do not want that.

Hmm, yes.  

 My question is, where is this behavior of useradd configured?

It isn't.  It appears to be hardwired into pw(8), which is the basic
tool around which adduser(8) is built.

 I cannot find this in the handbook. There is no /etc/useradd.conf
 neither an /etc/pw.conf on my system and also the contents of
 /usr/share/skel do not seem to make a difference.

And none of those are documented to do anything of the sort.
I think you should just write your own wrapper.  You could write it as
a wrapper for adduser, or you could make your own version of adduser
(which is just a shell script). 
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Re: How-to maintain upgrade??

2006-10-10 Thread Gerard
Robert Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Are you aware of the DD option for portsclean?

Yes, I have read the 'man' pages, or as they are routinely referred to:
'Much About Nothing' documentation.


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Re: dovecot installed -- WAS: Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Gerard Seibert
Desmond Coughlan wrote:

 Better ?  :)
   
 Sorry, I'm using yahoo and IE.  It sucks.

1) Why did you change the subject?

2) I have used IE with Yahoo and have not experienced the problems that
you seem to be experiencing. Are you sure that this is not a case of
'PEBKC' phenomena?

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Re: dovecot installed -- WAS: Re: cheapskate webmail interface

2006-10-10 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Microsoft has an extra security pack for IE and if you download it and
install it,
it will break a lot of these kinds of webinterface sites.

Sorry I cannot be more explicit, the only machine I am responsible for that
has this
thing on it which breaks ssites, was setup by one of the other admins and he
forgot what exactly he did to fix it.

Ted

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 Desmond Coughlan wrote:

  Better ?  :)
 
  Sorry, I'm using yahoo and IE.  It sucks.

 1) Why did you change the subject?

 2) I have used IE with Yahoo and have not experienced the problems that
 you seem to be experiencing. Are you sure that this is not a case of
 'PEBKC' phenomena?

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how to route my public IP

2006-10-10 Thread runlevel 3

hello, i'm new to this freebsd, my office has 16 public IP and divide to 4
branch, each branch has 3 public ip's.
my problem is, I want to make all branch connect to the main office's
router, but what I found is, all branch is showed by the internet using one
public IP (my main router IP) not their own Public IP. Anyone can help me
resolve this ?

Regards,

Dzak
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Re: How does useradd determine the default mailbox/maildir location for new users

2006-10-10 Thread Erik Norgaard

Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Niek Dekker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I am running Exim 4.62 MTA on FBSD 6.0_release.
When I create a new user using useradd, a mailbox file for the new
user is created in /var/mail.
As I am using Maildir with maildirs in /var/mail, I do not want that.

And none of those are documented to do anything of the sort.
I think you should just write your own wrapper.  You could write it as
a wrapper for adduser, or you could make your own version of adduser
(which is just a shell script). 


Why not just store your mail in a different directory - say /var/exim? 
Does it hurt your eyes if it's not called /var/mail?


In login.conf you set user environment path to the user's mailbox (don't 
know if this is worth anything with Maildir), and configure exim to use 
that directory - this sounds like the easier solution.


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Re: Something Like Beagle

2006-10-10 Thread backyard


--- Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 backyard wrote:
  --- Tom Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  Is there something like beagle that runs on
 FreeBSD?
   If not is it 
  something that people would like to see ported?
 
  -Tom
  
 
 
  Beagle the personal data indexer, or open beagle
 the
  evolutionary computation system?
 
  The personel data indexer seems cool to me. the
  evolutionary computation system isn't something I
  would personally find useful.
 
  my two cents
 
 
  -brian
 
 

 I am referring to the data indexer.  I understand
 that it uses something 
 called iNotify within the Linux kernel and that is
 why it may not be a 
 very nice port to *BSD.  I am wondering if it would
 be possible to use 
 something like kqueue to notify the calling program
 of a disk write like 
 iNotify does.
 

that sounds logical, but since beagle is a gnome item
isn't there an existing gnome function that wraps
kqueue into its API to do somekind of fast indexing or
track file changes? Not a programmer sorry, but I seem
to recall something along those lines when I was
reading the descriptions to the ports I had installed
while setting the knobs for my rebuild. I could look
into that more if so desired...

 Just throwing out thought because I think that a
 desktop search tool 
 would be well received with the desktop BSD
 community.
 
 -Tom

I would tend to concur with that. 

-brian


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Re: how to route my public IP

2006-10-10 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 10, 2006, at 8:58 AM, runlevel 3 wrote:
hello, i'm new to this freebsd, my office has 16 public IP and  
divide to 4

branch, each branch has 3 public ip's.
my problem is, I want to make all branch connect to the main office's
router, but what I found is, all branch is showed by the internet  
using one
public IP (my main router IP) not their own Public IP. Anyone can  
help me

resolve this ?


Talk to your ISP.  A VPN technology such as OpenVPN in the ports  
might be helpful...


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-Chuck

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Re: Using portconf and /usr/local/etc/ports.conf

2006-10-10 Thread backyard


--- James Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 05:15:28 -0700 (PDT)
  From: backyard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Using portconf and
 /usr/local/etc/ports.conf
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Message-ID:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  
  if ruby uses ncurses, that blue menu thing, you
 have
  to add BATCH=Yes as a build option to skip the
 menu
  and build it with the options you have selected.
 
 You missed the point.  If I were to set batch mode
 on, then

I meant set BATCH as an option only to the ruby knob,
then it would only apply to that build. 

 it would just build WITHOUT the options I selected. 
 The fact
 that the config box came up with RDOC and IPV6 still
 selected
 suggests to me that portconf isn't recognizing my
 entries in 
 ports.conf.

maybe but if portconf doesn't automatically apply a
BATCH build then you WILL ALWAYS get a screen that
will default to what is in the Makefile, not what you
passed to make -DFOO -DBAR. Unless you use the
previous options but I'm not certain how to tell make
to use the existing options file.

 
  don't know much about portconf
 
 Thanks all the same.
 

is portconf supposed to automagically apply a batch
build??? I'm confused...

that is why I keep it simple with stuff like this

.if {CURDIR:M/usr/ports*}
include /foo/bar/ports.conf
.endif

in make.conf

I also do stuff like that to include sup files so I
can independantly update ports and src because when
both are set in the make.conf it seems to always
update both. sometimes this is not what I really want.

and in ports.conf

.if {CURDIR:M*/lang/ruby18}
# comment out all the build options
# from the Makefile copyed in for reference
#
BATCH=YES
WITHOUT_IPV6=yes
WITH_FOOBAR=YES
WITH_STUFF=no # == WITH_STUFF=YES, use WITHOUT_STUFF
.endif

there was a nice thing I found on google when
searching 

retaining options portupgrade

or something along those lines. Why use ports to do
something make already understands. At least that is
my logic. especially if you have to type up a
configuration file anyway... You could keep things in
just make.conf but things get messy after a while.

good luck

-brian

 
 Jim
 

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Segfaulting perl

2006-10-10 Thread David King
When trying to run fetchyahoo (from ports), perl dumps core. It  
appears to be dumping core in OpenSSL. I've tried recompiling/ 
reinstalling all ports related to fetchyahoo, perl, and openssl. This  
happens whether or not I enable SSL in fetchyahoo's configuration.


It gets as far as:

~% fetchyahoo
Logging in insecurely via plaintext as username on Tue Oct 10  
09:49:20 2006

zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped)  fetchyahoo

Perl and OpenSSL have been compiled with:

~% egrep -i '^(COPT|CFLAG)' /etc/make.conf
CFLAGS+=-O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g
COPTFLAGS=-O -pipe -mtune=i686 -g

Here's the output of GDB and a backtrace

Core was generated by `perl5.8.8'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/ 
libperl.so...done.

Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/libperl.so
Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4
Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3
Reading symbols from /lib/libutil.so.5...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libutil.so.5
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libpthread.so.2
Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/IO/ 
IO.so...done.

Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/IO/IO.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Fcntl/ 
Fcntl.so...done.

Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
MIME/Base64/Base64.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
MIME/Base64/Base64.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Time/HiRes/ 
HiRes.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Time/HiRes/ 
HiRes.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Socket/ 
Socket.so...done.

Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Socket/Socket.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/ 
Hostname/Hostname.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/auto/Sys/Hostname/ 
Hostname.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
Compress/Zlib/Zlib.so

Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
HTML/Parser/Parser.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
HTML/Parser/Parser.so
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/auto/ 
Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so

Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5
Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5
Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done.
Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
#0  0x2839d420 in SSL_CTX_ctrl () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5
[New LWP 100179]
(gdb) bt
#0  0x2839d420 in SSL_CTX_ctrl () from /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5
#1  0x01c0 in ?? ()
#2  0x000d in ?? ()
#3  0x28325000 in ?? ()
#4  0x in ?? ()
#5  0x283683b4 in __JCR_LIST__ () from /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/ 
5.8.8/mach/auto/Crypt/SSLeay/SSLeay.so

#6  0x0017 in ?? ()
#7  0x in ?? ()
#8  0x283608af in XS_Crypt__SSLeay__CTX_new (my_perl=0x8058000,  
cv=0x86b47b0) at SSLeay.xs:133

#9  0x2810fd9f in Perl_pp_entersub (my_perl=0x8058000) at pp_hot.c:2913
#10 0x280f22d9 in Perl_runops_debug (my_perl=0x8058000) at dump.c:1459
#11 0x2809e6b1 in S_run_body (my_perl=0x8058000, oldscope=4095) at  
perl.c:2366

#12 0x2809e222 in perl_run (my_perl=0x8058000) at perl.c:2283
#13 0x080492bc in main ()

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 8) configuration:
  Platform:
osname=freebsd, osvers=6.1-release-p10, archname=i386-freebsd- 
thread-multi-64int
uname='freebsd melchoir.ketralnis.com 6.1-release-p10 freebsd  
6.1-release-p10 #5: mon oct 9 09:44:49 pdt 2006  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:usrobjusrsrcsysmelchoir i386 '
config_args='-sde -Dprefix=/usr/local -Darchlib=/usr/local/lib/ 
perl5/5.8.8/mach -Dprivlib=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 -Dman3dir=/usr/ 
local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/perl/man/man3 -Dman1dir=/usr/local/man/man1 - 
Dsitearch=/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach -Dsitelib=/usr/ 
local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 -Dscriptdir=/usr/local/bin - 
Dsiteman3dir=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/man/man3 -Dsiteman1dir=/usr/ 
local/man/man1 -Ui_malloc -Ui_iconv -Uinstallusrbinperl -Dcc=cc - 
Duseshrplib -Dccflags=-DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ 
BSDPAN -Doptimize=-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -O -pipe - 

Re: how to route my public IP

2006-10-10 Thread Derek Ragona
This is a problem with your router's configuration.  You may need better 
routers, that can handle the routing of your subnet in addition to your 
internet usage.


-Derek


At 10:58 AM 10/10/2006, runlevel 3 wrote:

hello, i'm new to this freebsd, my office has 16 public IP and divide to 4
branch, each branch has 3 public ip's.
my problem is, I want to make all branch connect to the main office's
router, but what I found is, all branch is showed by the internet using one
public IP (my main router IP) not their own Public IP. Anyone can help me
resolve this ?

Regards,

Dzak
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.dmg files?

2006-10-10 Thread Drew Sanford
Is there any way to unpack a .dmg file (mac) on FreeBSD? I have checked 
in ports/archivers and can't find anything that looks like it will do 
it, and google turns up nothing of any use that I've found yet. Have I 
missed something, or can this really not be done?


Drew
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Re: minimum requirements

2006-10-10 Thread Derrick Ryalls

On 10/9/06, Eric Schuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/09/06 12:00, free bsd wrote:
 Thank you everyone for responding to my initial question.

   In hindsight I realize I worded my original inquiry inaccurately.  What I 
am attempting to determine is how well or if ver 6.1 will work on a 4GB hard drive 
with a Pentium 4 - 3.06GHz cpu and 1GB ram?  The machine has a 232GB hard drive 
but I have another 4GB drive sitting around being unused that I was thinking of 
adding to the machine to configure in a dual boot setup with the 4GB drive being 
totally allocated to FreeBSD.

Well, as everyone has stated... It depends on what you are doing with
the machine.

I have a 512MB USB device running 5.3-RELEASE, Xorg, Fluxbox, nessus,
nmap, firefox, and a few other tidbits (no ports tree).  Its darn slow
off USB, but it works.  So yeah, 4GB is sufficient... for some amount of
functionality.

If *I* wanted to use a machine, say for a desktop, I'd want no less than
20GB.  I have a 20GB disk for a machine, yet I ran out of space while
trying to set it up the way I wanted.  I had most things setup, then
tried to compile OO.  I fell back to the package though.

Either way, everyones point is... It depends.  But I think most would
say to have a truly useful Desktop, 4GB is a bit slim.  My vote... 20GB+

HTH.


   However, before attempting that task I am trying to determine whether or 
not it would be even feasible to use a 4GB drive to install v 6.1 or should I use 
a larger drive to install the many of FreeBSD's features?  And if a larger drive 
how large of a drive would I need to utilize many or any of its features without 
limiting myself to a bare bones setup?  Additionally, if the 4GB drive will work 
how limited would the install/capabilities/features be?

   I am not at all opposed to using a larger drive but at the present time do 
not have a clue as to what size drive I should use for the most flexibility 
regarding type of installation options.

   -art




I didn't see it mentioned (may have missed it), I just wanted to point
out one thing.  There is a bit of a speed difference between a 4gig
drive and a 200gig drive.  If you are using a 3gig CPU, it would be a
shame to have such a huge bottleneck with the hard drive.
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KDE Control Center

2006-10-10 Thread Rem P Roberti
When I bring up the Control Center in KDE the left column is now blank, 
and I have no options for changing preferences.  Anyone know what 
happened there?  Everything else seems to be functioning fine.


Rem
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Re: How to change all /bin/bash at /etc/passwd to /sbin/nologin?

2006-10-10 Thread up

Because that's what pw is for...you don't need to worry about accidentally
deleting a colon, for example.  A script using pw would also be a huge
timesaver over manually editing hundreds of entries, I'd think as well.
Of course, sed can do it even quicker, but with the same risks.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would not recommend using vipw [...] to change your users' shells.
 
 
 Why not?

 --Alex




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Re: .dmg files?

2006-10-10 Thread backyard


--- Drew Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Is there any way to unpack a .dmg file (mac) on
 FreeBSD? I have checked 
 in ports/archivers and can't find anything that
 looks like it will do 
 it, and google turns up nothing of any use that I've
 found yet. Have I 
 missed something, or can this really not be done?
 
 Drew


http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/

your lucky work is slow...  :) cause a quick google on

extension dmg 

found this little website. there are source files and
perl scripts that supposedly do it for you.

enjoy

-brian

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6.1-stable + Wireless + ndiswrapper kernel crash

2006-10-10 Thread Athanasios Zorbas

Hello all,

I am experiencing a very strange problem with FreeBSD 6.1-stable. I do
not know if this could be a bug report, so please tell me what you
think.

I have a D-Link G520+ wireless card configured and running with
ndiswrapper. The network seems stable and if there is not many network
traffic, the interface will run for days.

However, I have noticed that problems appear when there is a lot of
network traffic for a big amount of time. I have noticed this when
transferring files via NFS or scp. An exact same problem I found in
the mailing list:

Message-ID:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:   6.1-Stable + named  ndis + nfsd == System crash ?

After experimenting quite a bit, I can know reproduce a kernel crash.

my setup involves 2 machines:
a Linux Machine (linux)
the FreeBSD 6.1 machine (freebsd)

I can flood ping (ping -f) the linux machine from the freebsd just
fine and there is no problem whatsoever.

However, and here is the tricky part, if I login from linux to the
freebsd machine via ssh and then do a flood ping from the freebsd to
linux machine, I get a system crash.

It is noteworthy that I have done some experiments with the wireless
card running on Linux and no problems occur, so I do not think there
is a bug in the Windows driver supplied with the card.

Please note that I am not an experienced FreeBSD user, I am know
learning the insights of it.

Thank you all in advance for your support.

Some information about my system:

uname:
FreeBSD rugad.lan 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Oct 10
01:44:03 EEST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/GENERIC  i386

pciconf:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:10:0:class=0x028000 card=0x3b041186 chip=0x9066104c
rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
   vendor   = 'Texas Instruments (TI)'
   device   = 'TNETW1130(ACX111) 802.11b/g Wireless Cardbus/PCI Adapter'
   class= network

the kernel crash:
[GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads:
/usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol ps_pglobal_lookup]
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd.

Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:


Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x14
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc069dbe0
stack pointer   = 0x28:0xd13deac4
frame pointer   = 0x28:0xd13deaf4
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
   = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
current process = 2242 (Windows DPC 0)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
Uptime: 13h20m50s
Dumping 255 MB (2 chunks)
 chunk 0: 1MB (160 pages) ... ok
 chunk 1: 255MB (65280 pages) 240 224 208 192 176 160 144 128 112 96
80 64 48 32 16

#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:165
165 __asm __volatile(movl %%fs:0,%0 : =r (td));
(kgdb)
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Help

2006-10-10 Thread Nikola Popovski

Hi for the first time i have install FreeBsd 6.1 and i have a problem. I use
standard setup and when a make all partition for BSD root swap usr then the
problem begins. The messege Unable to write data to disk ad2!  I make
just one  partition on the disk. CAN you help me
Please write to me.
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Creating a Super user Account

2006-10-10 Thread alena eckert
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employee with a super user account leave the company.  No here knows
this employees id or password to update information.  Can you please
advise how we can create new accounts and give someone a super user
account without this information?

 

 

Thank you in advance,

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Re: How does useradd determine the default mailbox/maildir location for new users

2006-10-10 Thread Niek Dekker
Hi Lowell, thanks for the clarification. I'll have a look at the adduser 
script and probably make my own version.


Regards,
Niek


Lowell Gilbert wrote:

Niek Dekker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

I am running Exim 4.62 MTA on FBSD 6.0_release.
When I create a new user using useradd, a mailbox file for the new
user is created in /var/mail.



I assume you mean adduser(8).

  

As I am using Maildir with maildirs in /var/mail, I do not want that.



Hmm, yes.  

  

My question is, where is this behavior of useradd configured?



It isn't.  It appears to be hardwired into pw(8), which is the basic
tool around which adduser(8) is built.

  

I cannot find this in the handbook. There is no /etc/useradd.conf
neither an /etc/pw.conf on my system and also the contents of
/usr/share/skel do not seem to make a difference.



And none of those are documented to do anything of the sort.
I think you should just write your own wrapper.  You could write it as
a wrapper for adduser, or you could make your own version of adduser
(which is just a shell script). 

  

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Re: Creating a Super user Account

2006-10-10 Thread Eric
alena eckert wrote:
 Hello,
 
  
 
 I work for United Automobile Insurance Group.  We recently had our only
 employee with a super user account leave the company.  No here knows
 this employees id or password to update information.  Can you please
 advise how we can create new accounts and give someone a super user
 account without this information?
 

can you just ask the employee his password? there are ways to do this,
but not without at least a little bit of FreeBSD/UNIX experience. How
comfortable are you with working in the BSD environment with boot CDs, etc?

Eric
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unattended restore in script

2006-10-10 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Hi all

I've got commands like this in a script which is supposed to do an 
unattended clone of a hard disk


dump 0af - /usr |restore xf -

It does the dump and restore ok but then stops and prompts me with 
something like


  DUMP: DUMP IS DONE
set owner/mode for '.'? [y/n]

Can I modify the command so it doesn't prompt? I couldn't see anything 
in restore's man page except -x restores ownership and modes where 
possible. Is it not possible on my system for some reason?


I've also tried to include an 'echo y' in the command but without success.

Thanks very much, sorry for such a trivial question.

Chris

FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Sep 16 12:05:57 BST 2006 i386

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Re: Creating a Super user Account

2006-10-10 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:57:54PM -0400, alena eckert wrote:
 Hello,
 
  
 
 I work for United Automobile Insurance Group.  We recently had our only
 employee with a super user account leave the company.  No here knows
 this employees id or password to update information.  Can you please
 advise how we can create new accounts and give someone a super user
 account without this information?

Have a look at the Handbook:


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW

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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-10 Thread martinko
Mike Friedman wrote:
 I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE and I want to run a current Oracle
 client-only with encryption support.
 
 First, I installed the Oracle client port, which represents Oracle 7.
 But my database support person tells me that's quite old and, in fact,
 he couldn't be sure it would work (especially the encryption part) with
 the Oracle database I'd be using (which he helps support).  And I was
 getting some strange symptoms when I tested it.
 
 So, he recommended that I download the Oracle 10g Client for Linux.
 Since my FreeBSD system is configured for Linux compatibility, I'm
 hoping this will work.  However, I can't even get the Installer to
 complete!  It keeps telling me that I may not have enough space in my
 root partition, even though I'm not trying to install into the root
 partition.  (The partition in which I'm installing has lots of space).
 
 In addition, I should say that the machine on which this Oracle client
 will be installed is not running X Windows.  This means I can't use the
 installation menus, so I've been running the Installation tool with a
 'response file'.  The response file, however, doesn't have much
 flexibility.  In particular, when I'm told I may not have enough space,
 it asks me if I want to continue, but there's no way for me to reply
 'yes' from the response file.
 
 In any case, based on the installation logs, it really looks like the
 Installation tool is looking at the root partition for how much space is
 available.
 
 I've found in the FreeBSD handbook an article on installing Oracle 8.0.
 But it appears that there have been changes with 10g.  Also, those
 instructions seem to assume a server install, so they talk about setting
 some shared memory values and other things that may not apply to me anyway.
 
 Do I have any other options?  I don't want to install the full Oracle
 package (client and server), just the client, so that I can write some
 perl scripts to query a remote Oracle database.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Mike
 

Mike, have you considered linux-oracle-instantclient-* ports ?

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OOo-204rc3, package

2006-10-10 Thread Gary Kline

Is there a means of downloading the 2.0.4rc3 package for
openoffice?   The latest on the OO website is 2.0.3.  portupgrade
shrugs.   

I think this is the last thing to replace/upgrade.

thanks, people,

gary



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Re: Creating a Super user Account

2006-10-10 Thread Lowell Gilbert
alena eckert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I work for United Automobile Insurance Group.  We recently had our only
 employee with a super user account leave the company.  No here knows
 this employees id or password to update information.  Can you please
 advise how we can create new accounts and give someone a super user
 account without this information?

The is a Frequently Asked Question:
 I have forgotten the root password! What do I do?
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#FORGOT-ROOT-PW

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dual core AMD chips

2006-10-10 Thread Brian
How good is the SMP support now for AMD X2 chips? 


Brian
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Re: dual core AMD chips

2006-10-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:21:51PM -0700, Brian wrote:
 How good is the SMP support now for AMD X2 chips? 

Fine.

Kris
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Re: Creating a Super user Account

2006-10-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 01:57:54PM -0400, alena eckert wrote:

 Hello,
 
  
 
 I work for United Automobile Insurance Group.  We recently had our only
 employee with a super user account leave the company.  No here knows
 this employees id or password to update information.  Can you please
 advise how we can create new accounts and give someone a super user
 account without this information?

Look up information on booting in to single user mode.
When you do this, you are effectively in root at the console
with no network services or extra stuff running.

Then, you merely need to:
  make sure the filesystems are clean - fsck(8)
  remount root with reae/write permission - mount(8)
  mount other filesystems you might need  - mount(8)
  might as well turn on swap space- swapon(8) 
  
eg.
 fsck -p
 mount -u /
 mount -a
 swapon -a

At this point you can use vipw(8)  to add an account
and passwd(1) to set or change passwords.

vipw is a special version of the 'vi' editor that handles the 
passwd file.  It takes care of locks, and updating the master 
passwd file and the password database so you don't have to do
anything with them by hand.   The editing rules in vipw are the
same as in regular vi.

The ideal thing is to copy the line with the root account on it
and then dup it.   Change the id name field and possible the home
directory if you want to keep them separate.  Then once you get
out of vipw with a 'ESC : w q' (no spaces, I just put them there
to be clear) which cause the changes to be written to the file,
you then need to run  passwd  to set a password on the new account.

  passwd newid

follow the prompts.

Then, edit the /etc/group file and put your regular non-root id
in the wheel group - just add it on the end of the list if any with
a comma separating it from previous ones.

Then, reboot.
shutdown -r now

log in as your regular id - that you just added to wheel group.
then su to the new root id to do root work.

  su newid
then give the newid password when it asks.

When you get done with the work, leave the root account by typing
  exit  at a system shell prompt

This is better and a small amount more secure than setting a password
on the regular root account.   But, you can just put a password on
the root account and su to it - just do the su without an id on the
line.

jerry

 
 Thank you in advance,
 
 Alena
 
 (305) 940-7299 ext. 2422
 
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Re: ssh tunnel - remote access through nat

2006-10-10 Thread martinko
Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
 On Tuesday 25 July 2006 20:03, Drew wrote:
 Hi,
 I've got a box that's nat'd out to the internet. It is occassionally
 neccessary for me to access this box remotely. The obvious answer is:

 ssh -R :localhost:22 remote.box cat

 run from the nat'd box where remote box is a place I pretty much always
 have access too from anywhere, anytime. The problem is that the connection
 between these two boxes is famously unreliable - so I need to ensure that
 this connection stays available. Unfortunately, the procedure for this is
 not obvious to me. I've thought about a cron job, as the connection would
 simply fail if it couldn't bind to  on the remote box to listen. But
 I'm thinking there has to be something that makes more sense. Suggestions?
 Feedback? Thanks in advance for any pointers.
 
 you can do something like this in bourne-like shells:
 
 while true; do
   ssh -N ...
   sleep 1
 done
 
 and something like this in csh:
 while ( 1 )
   ...
 end
 
 from ssh manual:
  -N  Do not execute a remote command.  This is useful for just for-
  warding ports (protocol version 2 only).
 
 The sleep command is used to add a little delay in case there is some-
 thing really wrong and ssh returns immediately, resulting in looping
 very fast.
 
 Then you just have to ensure that ssh will be aware of a dropped
 connection (by the means of keep-alives) and exit. You can do this
 with ssh, but you have configure keep-alives on both machines,
 client and server.
 
 An alternative method would be ipfw keep-alives for dynamic rules
 and you have to configure it only on the box you're ssh'ing from. It
 works very nice.
 
 In both cases you have to use public key authentication in order to
 log on automatically after a network failure. I guess it's already
 set up.
 
 A few pointers, read ssh, sshd, ssh-keygen and ipfw manuals
 
 HTH, Nikos


Hello,

I was just thinking along these lines this evening -- putting ssh in
loop so that the tunnel is recreated whenever connection drops.
However, I'd like to automate it somehow so that the machine creating
tunnel can be restarted and it tries to open up tunnel when it boots up.
The thing is that if I just simply create an rc script to achieve this,
the script is run under root and ssh cannot make use of public key
authentication which is set up now for a user running it manually.
Or is there a way to change identity somehow or to run an rc script
under different user account ??

Cheers,

Martin

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Re: ssh tunnel - remote access through nat

2006-10-10 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:55 PM, martinko wrote:

[ ... ]
The thing is that if I just simply create an rc script to achieve  
this,

the script is run under root and ssh cannot make use of public key
authentication which is set up now for a user running it manually.
Or is there a way to change identity somehow or to run an rc script
under different user account ??


Of course.  One can use su - to run a command under another user,  
or use the ssh -i option to pass the user's identity (ie, their SSH  
private key) directly...


--
-Chuck

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Re: dual core AMD chips

2006-10-10 Thread Brian

Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:21:51PM -0700, Brian wrote:
  
How good is the SMP support now for AMD X2 chips? 



Fine.

Kris
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Have you had better stability with the i386 or 64 bit releases?

Brian
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Re: dual core AMD chips

2006-10-10 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 03:04:44PM -0700, Brian wrote:
 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 02:21:51PM -0700, Brian wrote:
   
 How good is the SMP support now for AMD X2 chips? 
 
 
 Fine.
 
 Kris
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 Have you had better stability with the i386 or 64 bit releases?

They're both equally stable.

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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-10 Thread Damian Wiest
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:59:34PM +0200, martinko wrote:
 Mike Friedman wrote:
  I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE and I want to run a current Oracle
  client-only with encryption support.
  
  First, I installed the Oracle client port, which represents Oracle 7.
  But my database support person tells me that's quite old and, in fact,
  he couldn't be sure it would work (especially the encryption part) with
  the Oracle database I'd be using (which he helps support).  And I was
  getting some strange symptoms when I tested it.
  
  So, he recommended that I download the Oracle 10g Client for Linux.
  Since my FreeBSD system is configured for Linux compatibility, I'm
  hoping this will work.  However, I can't even get the Installer to
  complete!  It keeps telling me that I may not have enough space in my
  root partition, even though I'm not trying to install into the root
  partition.  (The partition in which I'm installing has lots of space).
  
  In addition, I should say that the machine on which this Oracle client
  will be installed is not running X Windows.  This means I can't use the
  installation menus, so I've been running the Installation tool with a
  'response file'.  The response file, however, doesn't have much
  flexibility.  In particular, when I'm told I may not have enough space,
  it asks me if I want to continue, but there's no way for me to reply
  'yes' from the response file.
  
  In any case, based on the installation logs, it really looks like the
  Installation tool is looking at the root partition for how much space is
  available.
  
  I've found in the FreeBSD handbook an article on installing Oracle 8.0.
  But it appears that there have been changes with 10g.  Also, those
  instructions seem to assume a server install, so they talk about setting
  some shared memory values and other things that may not apply to me anyway.
  
  Do I have any other options?  I don't want to install the full Oracle
  package (client and server), just the client, so that I can write some
  perl scripts to query a remote Oracle database.
  
  Any suggestions?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Mike
  
 
 Mike, have you considered linux-oracle-instantclient-* ports ?

If all you want to do is use Perl to access the database, then why are 
you bothering with Oracle's client software?  Just use the CPAN module 
to build and install DBD::Oracle.

Just curious, but how were you able to perform a silent install wihout
a frame buffer?  I ran into this problem installing Oracle 9i, but used
xvfb as a workaround.

-Damian
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Re: .dmg files?

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, October 10, 2006 13:51:46 -0500 Drew Sanford 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Is there any way to unpack a .dmg file (mac) on FreeBSD? I have checked
in ports/archivers and can't find anything that looks like it will do it,
and google turns up nothing of any use that I've found yet. Have I missed
something, or can this really not be done?


Won't this do it?

/usr/ports/archivers/stuffit

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: dual core AMD chips

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, October 10, 2006 14:21:51 -0700 Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



How good is the SMP support now for AMD X2 chips?


I'm running 6.0 RELEASE and not having any problems.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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problems using gmirror

2006-10-10 Thread Tom Worster
i've been trying to use the procedure described at 
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2005/11/10/FreeBSD_Basics.html

i followed it to the letter. i'm using the install cd from from 
the freebsd 6.1-release iso.

my primary disk is on sata-0 which is /dev/ad4 on my dell poweredge
400sc.

in the label editor i used the auto defauts giving 5 slices for
 / swap /tmp /var /usr.

everything goes according to plan for page 1 of that article. but 
the machine does not reboot. it fails while:

Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a

because that device doesn't exist. the computer hangs at the 
mountroot prompt because of the keboard bug in 6.1-release. when 
i reboot in safe mode and enter ? to list geom managed disk 
devices i see only mirror mirror/gm0s1c mirror/gm0s1 mirror/gm0 
and all the ad4 devices. in other words: mirror/gm0s1a and the 
other three slices are not listed in /dev/mirror.

i've been through the install process about 5 times now carefully 
checking everything and i can see from ls /dev/mirror that the 
command:

gmirror label -v -b round-robin gm0 /dev/ad4

generates only the /dev/mirror/gm0s1c in /dev/mirrior, the other
four slices are not there.

any suggestions?

thanks
tom

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Re: .dmg files?

2006-10-10 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Oct 10, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:

--On Tuesday, October 10, 2006 13:51:46 -0500 Drew Sanford  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there any way to unpack a .dmg file (mac) on FreeBSD? I have  
checked
in ports/archivers and can't find anything that looks like it will  
do it,
and google turns up nothing of any use that I've found yet. Have I  
missed

something, or can this really not be done?


Won't this do it?

/usr/ports/archivers/stuffit


Probably not.

Stuffit is a zip like format.  .dmg are like .iso more or less  
(mountable disk images)


Chad


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Re: ssh tunnel - remote access through nat

2006-10-10 Thread martinko
Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:55 PM, martinko wrote:
 [ ... ]
 The thing is that if I just simply create an rc script to achieve this,
 the script is run under root and ssh cannot make use of public key
 authentication which is set up now for a user running it manually.
 Or is there a way to change identity somehow or to run an rc script
 under different user account ??

 Of course. One can use su - to run a command under another user, or
 use the ssh -i option to pass the user's identity (ie, their SSH
 private key) directly...

 ---Chuck



su(1) usually asks for password. but it does not when run by root, of
course. :-)
i like `ssh -i`, too. only that i'll have to check whether it won't
complain that identity file ownership doesn't match user running it.
(which would be root i expect)

also, i've been kindly reminded of cron(8) and its @reboot option.

thank you all for your input! (i'd better go to bed now..;))

m.
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Re: .dmg files?

2006-10-10 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2006/10/10 14:10, Paul Schmehl seems to have typed:
 --On Tuesday, October 10, 2006 13:51:46 -0500 Drew Sanford 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there any way to unpack a .dmg file (mac) on FreeBSD? I have checked
 in ports/archivers and can't find anything that looks like it will do it,
 and google turns up nothing of any use that I've found yet. Have I missed
 something, or can this really not be done?

 Won't this do it?
 
 /usr/ports/archivers/stuffit

I don't believe so:
http://www.stuffit.com/compression/fileformats.html

.dmg is a Disk iMaGe fairly similar to a BSD *.iso file.

Stuffit supports compressed archives, but afaik, does not support any
disk image file formats.
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Re: requesting help to make sound work on thin/diskless client

2006-10-10 Thread Raymond Gibson
On Monday 09 October 2006 19:43, Doug Poland wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 04:00:23PM -0500, Raymond Gibson wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm looking for help. I built a thin/diskless client that I boot via
  etherboot. After power up the client boots and gives me a login
  prompt. At that time I enter 'root' and I am presented with a command
  prompt. I then enter 'X -query server ip' and X starts and it works
  as expected.
 
  I would like to add sound. Unfortunately, I can't find documentation
  describing this process. So, could someone explain to me how to
  configure the client/server? My server is FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE.
 
  BTW: I installed an ISA soundblaster sound and compiled these lines into
  my kernel. The kernel detects the sound card during boot-up.
 
  # Add the generic audio driver
  device  sound
  device  snd_sbc
  device  snd_sb16

 I have had good results using /usr/ports/audio/esound.  Install on both
 the client and the server.  On the client, run something like this
 before you start X:

  client% esd -tcp -public -promiscuous -beeps -trust -bind 10.0.0.1

 where 10.0.0.1 is the IP address of the client's network interface.

 Connect to the server just as you have described.  When ever you run a
 program that has esd support compiled in, the audio will be directed
 to the client.

 Programs compiled with ESD support appear to direct sound to the host
 indicated by the DISPLAY environment variable.  That should set
 correctly if the server you're attaching to is running xdm, gdm, or kdm.

 You may also have to set ESPEAKER, but I've found that just DISPLAY
 works for me.

I'm not having much luck. I installed esound on both client and server.
I start esound on the server; esd , the server responds with several beeps.
On the client I start esd as described above, I also hear beeps when esd 
starts.
I start X, then login to KDE.
I start Xmms with esound enabled. I get an error saying 'can't open audio'.

any ideas?


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Re: wxGlade error

2006-10-10 Thread Rod Person
thanks I only had wxPython-common installed. I had to install
wxPython-2.6, now it works.

On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 21:03 -0400, Michael S wrote:
 Have you just installed wxPython?
 Maybe you need to execute the rehash command?
 
 What if you try running python from the command line,
 and try importing the package from within the
 interpreter, i.e. typing from wxPython.wx import *?
 Does it load the module?
 
 --- Rod Person [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  When I try to run wxGlade on FreeBSD 7 Current I get
  the following
  error:
  
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File
 
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxglade/wxglade.py,
  line
  148, in ?
  run_main()
File
 
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxglade/wxglade.py,
  line
  135, in run_main
  import main
File
 
 /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/wxglade/main.py,
  line 9,
  in ?
  from wxPython.wx import *
  ImportError: No module named wxPython.wx
  
  wxPython is installed via the ports. Anyone have any
  ideas on how to
  correct this??
  
  -- 
  Rod
  
  it takes an unusual mind to see the obvious.
  - Alfred Whitehead
  
 
-- 
Rod

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iDefense Security Advisory 10.10.06: FreeBSD ptrace PT_LWPINFO Denial of Service Vulnerability

2006-10-10 Thread Bill Moran

This report seems pretty vague.  I'm unsure as to whether the alleged
bug gives the user any more permissions than he'd already have?  Anyone
know any details?

FreeBSD ptrace PT_LWPINFO Denial of Service Vulnerability

iDefense Security Advisory 10.10.06
http://www.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/
Oct 10, 2006

I. BACKGROUND

FreeBSD is a modern operating system for x86, amd64, Alpha, IA-64, PC-98
and SPARC architectures. It's based on the UNIX operating system, BSD,
which was created at the University of California, Berkeley.  More
information can be obtained from the FreeBSD Project web site at
http://www.FreeBSD.org/

II. DESCRIPTION

The PT_LWPINFO ptrace command allows a tracer to get information on a
running thread.

Due to the use of signed integers and a lack of proper input validation,
a situation can occur in the kernel where a panic will cause DoS. The
affected code follows.

953 case PT_LWPINFO:
954 if (data == 0 || data  sizeof(*pl))
955 return (EINVAL);

Since the data variable is a signed integer, the check on line 954 can
easily be bypassed. Eventually, the negative value is passed to
copyout(), which will result in a kernel panic or corruption of the user
space memory.

III. ANALYSIS

Exploitation of this vulnerability would result in a denial of service
condition on the affected host. In some cases exploitation resulted in a
hard lock up of the machine, where as other times a kernel panic was
caused leading to reboot.

iDefense considers this a LOW severity vulnerability due to the local
access requirement.

IV. DETECTION

iDefense has confirmed the existence of this problem in FreeBSD version
6.0-RELEASE. FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE is not affected. It is suspected that
other versions are also affected.

V. WORKAROUND

iDefense is not aware of any workaround for this issue.

VI. VENDOR RESPONSE

The policy of the FreeBSD Security Team is that local denial of service
bugs
not be treated as security issues; it is possible that this problem will be
corrected in a future Erratum.

VII. CVE INFORMATION

The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project has assigned the
name CVE-2006-4516 to this issue. This is a candidate for inclusion in
the CVE list (http://cve.mitre.org), which standardizes names for
security problems.

VIII. DISCLOSURE TIMELINE

08/18/2006  Initial vendor notification
10/06/2006  Initial vendor response
10/10/2006  Public disclosure


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Re: iDefense Security Advisory 10.10.06: FreeBSD ptrace PT_LWPINFO Denial of Service Vulnerability

2006-10-10 Thread Colin Percival
Bill Moran wrote:
 This report seems pretty vague.  I'm unsure as to whether the alleged
 bug gives the user any more permissions than he'd already have?  Anyone
 know any details?

This is a local denial of service bug, which was fixed 6 weeks ago in HEAD
and RELENG_6.  There is no opportunity for either remote denial of service
or any privilege escalation.

 VI. VENDOR RESPONSE
 
 The policy of the FreeBSD Security Team is that local denial of service
 bugs not be treated as security issues; it is possible that this problem
 will be corrected in a future Erratum.

If there was any potential for
(a) privilege escalation,
(b) disclosure of potentially sensitive information, or
(c) denial of service by a non-authenticated attacker,
we would have issued a security advisory.

Colin Percival

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Re: Installing Oracle Client 10g on FreeBSD

2006-10-10 Thread Scott T. Hildreth
On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 17:09 -0500, Damian Wiest wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 10:59:34PM +0200, martinko wrote:
  Mike Friedman wrote:
   I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE and I want to run a current Oracle
   client-only with encryption support.
   
   First, I installed the Oracle client port, which represents Oracle 7.
   But my database support person tells me that's quite old and, in fact,
   he couldn't be sure it would work (especially the encryption part) with
   the Oracle database I'd be using (which he helps support).  And I was
   getting some strange symptoms when I tested it.
   
   So, he recommended that I download the Oracle 10g Client for Linux.
   Since my FreeBSD system is configured for Linux compatibility, I'm
   hoping this will work.  However, I can't even get the Installer to
   complete!  It keeps telling me that I may not have enough space in my
   root partition, even though I'm not trying to install into the root
   partition.  (The partition in which I'm installing has lots of space).
   
   In addition, I should say that the machine on which this Oracle client
   will be installed is not running X Windows.  This means I can't use the
   installation menus, so I've been running the Installation tool with a
   'response file'.  The response file, however, doesn't have much
   flexibility.  In particular, when I'm told I may not have enough space,
   it asks me if I want to continue, but there's no way for me to reply
   'yes' from the response file.
   
   In any case, based on the installation logs, it really looks like the
   Installation tool is looking at the root partition for how much space is
   available.
   
   I've found in the FreeBSD handbook an article on installing Oracle 8.0.
   But it appears that there have been changes with 10g.  Also, those
   instructions seem to assume a server install, so they talk about setting
   some shared memory values and other things that may not apply to me 
   anyway.
   
   Do I have any other options?  I don't want to install the full Oracle
   package (client and server), just the client, so that I can write some
   perl scripts to query a remote Oracle database.
   
   Any suggestions?
   
   Thanks.
   
   Mike
   
  
  Mike, have you considered linux-oracle-instantclient-* ports ?
 
 If all you want to do is use Perl to access the database, then why are 
 you bothering with Oracle's client software?  Just use the CPAN module 
 to build and install DBD::Oracle.

   He can't, DBD::Oracle uses oci underneath so he needs the Oracle client to 
get the shared 
   libraries.   Mike you also need to compile or install a linux perl and then 
install DBI  DBD::Oracle
   with the linux perl.  You could use DBD::Proxy instead of installing 
DBD::Oracle.  It installed
with DBI.  Type 'perldoc DBD::Proxy' to see the docs.  If you need help, 
you can email me 
   or join the [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 
 Just curious, but how were you able to perform a silent install wihout
 a frame buffer?  I ran into this problem installing Oracle 9i, but used
 xvfb as a workaround.
 
 -Damian
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Re: iDefense Security Advisory 10.10.06: FreeBSD ptrace PT_LWPINFO Denial of Service Vulnerability

2006-10-10 Thread Bill Moran
Colin Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bill Moran wrote:
  This report seems pretty vague.  I'm unsure as to whether the alleged
  bug gives the user any more permissions than he'd already have?  Anyone
  know any details?
 
 This is a local denial of service bug, which was fixed 6 weeks ago in HEAD
 and RELENG_6.  There is no opportunity for either remote denial of service
 or any privilege escalation.
 
  VI. VENDOR RESPONSE
  
  The policy of the FreeBSD Security Team is that local denial of service
  bugs not be treated as security issues; it is possible that this problem
  will be corrected in a future Erratum.
 
 If there was any potential for
 (a) privilege escalation,
 (b) disclosure of potentially sensitive information, or
 (c) denial of service by a non-authenticated attacker,
 we would have issued a security advisory.

That was what I expected.  Section III seems to hint that it could be
used by an unprivilidged user to crash or lock a system.  I suspect they
used it as root to crash/lock the OS.  But I don't need any bugs to do
that as root, so it doesn't really count as a security issue.

BTW, are you going to be at NYCBSDCon?  If so, seek me out -- I owe you
a beer at the least.

As always, thanks for the quick response.

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FAILURE - READ_DMA error

2006-10-10 Thread Hadi Maleki
Hello,

 

Just a quick question, on this one server ( custom server in a 1U supermicro
case p4 3.0ghz 1gb ram) I keep on getting HD errors… I replaced many drives
and I always get the same error. I just replaced my motherboard and went to
a SATA drive from IDE… In the middle of a FreeBSD install...  I got the
following error:

 

FAILURE - READ_DMA

 

What can the issue be?


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Getting started with FreeBSD

2006-10-10 Thread cothrige
I am a complete newb to BSD trying to get started learning a bit about
how to make my way in it.  I have been using Slackware over the last
four years or so, and this has made me a bit used to one way of doing
things and now the FreeBSD way is kind of rattling me.

For some background, I installed from the FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE discs,
and this is also what I get from uname -r.  What I don't understand is
the relationship between ports, packages and security.  For instance,
I am currently using firefox 1.5.0.1, which I keep seeing online is
not terribly secure.  However, I am confused about what FreeBSD makes
available to update this and other similar packages.  I installed this,
and most of the rest of the system, from the discs via packages, and
hope to keep packages as my main method.  I have had some experience
in the past with twenty hour compiles of kdelibs on Gentoo and really
don't want that again but I cannot find any info anywhere on how to
approach updating for security via packages.

I installed once previously as a test, and in that system followed the
only online information I could find which seemed relevant, and that
was regarding cvsup.  I backed up the ports directory and setup a
supfile according the handbook and a couple of examples, and went
ahead and ran it.  From there I started checking how things would go
if I ran portupgrade on a couple of apps.  I chose the infamous
kdelibs as my sample.  When I ran portupgrade -P, just to check
things out and see what I would get, it failed to find a package and
started grabbing the source.  No, couldn't do that, so I killed it.
I then tried again with portsnap and got the same result.

When I looked at the complaint I found that it was looking for what
appeared to be a nonexistent file.  I am not sure now, but it was
something like kdelibs-3.5.4 and the server it was searching on,
something which ended in ...packages-6.1-release I think, had only
kdelibs-3.5.1.  As a matter of fact, I went through all the
directories I could find online (including 6 and 7 stable, release and
current) and was unable to find the package my system was looking for
in any of them.  This failure, and the confusion which ensued, are
what cause me to wonder just how to keep things like the
aforementioned firefox up to date.

I am now in a situation where I am unsure of what to do as regards
updates, and can really find nothing which clarifies things much
online.  Everything I find says to run cvsup and use a supfile
entirely like that which I used before, and that did not work out.
How do I use new, more secure ports and yet still be able to use
binary packages?  Is updating ports with cvsup the only way?  And if
so, what did I do wrong before?  The inability to use binary packages
for giant, though in my case needed, bloatware like kde made me leave
Gentoo behind and I want to know whether that is the only future for
FreeBSD too.  I am assuming that since there are binary packages
online for these files they must be usable, I just don't know how to
get to them from tools like portupgrade.  Or if that is how you even
try to upgrade a system from packages.  I just can't find any really
relevant guides for this type of thing, so I am supposing that
everyone just compiles everything.

Any help in this is very much appreciated, and sorry if I am
overlooking super obvious information somewhere about this.  I
probably am, but I just can't find it.

Patrick 

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Re: .dmg files?

2006-10-10 Thread David King
Is there any way to unpack a .dmg file (mac) on FreeBSD? I have  
checked in ports/archivers and can't find anything that looks like  
it will do it, and google turns up nothing of any use that I've  
found yet. Have I missed something, or can this really not be done?


Take a look at http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/, the dmg2iso.pl might  
help you



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Re: Getting started with FreeBSD

2006-10-10 Thread ke han

Patrick,
Since you are already knowledgeable of X-11 apps on slackware, this  
opinion may not concern you.
My opinion of FreeBSD is do not try to configure X-11 desktops and  
apps with it.  Its just too much effort.  I have the same opinion of  
any *nix system that require the user to install/configure their own  
desktop experience.
If you want a good desktop that does provide updates to some apps  
(firefox included), start with PC-BSD, http://www.pcbsd.org.  This is  
built on FreeBSD 6.x and keeps the base enough as in the FreeBSD.org  
release so as to enable you a true freebsd system so you can still  
use ports or packages in addition to PC-BSD's PBI installerbut  
without the trouble of integrating and maintaining your own desktop  
experience.

enjoy, ke han


On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:10 AM, cothrige wrote:


I am a complete newb to BSD trying to get started learning a bit about
how to make my way in it.  I have been using Slackware over the last
four years or so, and this has made me a bit used to one way of doing
things and now the FreeBSD way is kind of rattling me.

For some background, I installed from the FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE discs,
and this is also what I get from uname -r.  What I don't understand is
the relationship between ports, packages and security.  For instance,
I am currently using firefox 1.5.0.1, which I keep seeing online is
not terribly secure.  However, I am confused about what FreeBSD makes
available to update this and other similar packages.  I installed  
this,

and most of the rest of the system, from the discs via packages, and
hope to keep packages as my main method.  I have had some experience
in the past with twenty hour compiles of kdelibs on Gentoo and really
don't want that again but I cannot find any info anywhere on how to
approach updating for security via packages.

I installed once previously as a test, and in that system followed the
only online information I could find which seemed relevant, and that
was regarding cvsup.  I backed up the ports directory and setup a
supfile according the handbook and a couple of examples, and went
ahead and ran it.  From there I started checking how things would go
if I ran portupgrade on a couple of apps.  I chose the infamous
kdelibs as my sample.  When I ran portupgrade -P, just to check
things out and see what I would get, it failed to find a package and
started grabbing the source.  No, couldn't do that, so I killed it.
I then tried again with portsnap and got the same result.

When I looked at the complaint I found that it was looking for what
appeared to be a nonexistent file.  I am not sure now, but it was
something like kdelibs-3.5.4 and the server it was searching on,
something which ended in ...packages-6.1-release I think, had only
kdelibs-3.5.1.  As a matter of fact, I went through all the
directories I could find online (including 6 and 7 stable, release and
current) and was unable to find the package my system was looking for
in any of them.  This failure, and the confusion which ensued, are
what cause me to wonder just how to keep things like the
aforementioned firefox up to date.

I am now in a situation where I am unsure of what to do as regards
updates, and can really find nothing which clarifies things much
online.  Everything I find says to run cvsup and use a supfile
entirely like that which I used before, and that did not work out.
How do I use new, more secure ports and yet still be able to use
binary packages?  Is updating ports with cvsup the only way?  And if
so, what did I do wrong before?  The inability to use binary packages
for giant, though in my case needed, bloatware like kde made me leave
Gentoo behind and I want to know whether that is the only future for
FreeBSD too.  I am assuming that since there are binary packages
online for these files they must be usable, I just don't know how to
get to them from tools like portupgrade.  Or if that is how you even
try to upgrade a system from packages.  I just can't find any really
relevant guides for this type of thing, so I am supposing that
everyone just compiles everything.

Any help in this is very much appreciated, and sorry if I am
overlooking super obvious information somewhere about this.  I
probably am, but I just can't find it.

Patrick

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Re: Getting started with FreeBSD

2006-10-10 Thread Garrett Cooper

ke han wrote:

Patrick,
Since you are already knowledgeable of X-11 apps on slackware, this 
opinion may not concern you.
My opinion of FreeBSD is do not try to configure X-11 desktops and 
apps with it.  Its just too much effort.  I have the same opinion of 
any *nix system that require the user to install/configure their own 
desktop experience.
If you want a good desktop that does provide updates to some apps 
(firefox included), start with PC-BSD, http://www.pcbsd.org.  This is 
built on FreeBSD 6.x and keeps the base enough as in the FreeBSD.org 
release so as to enable you a true freebsd system so you can still use 
ports or packages in addition to PC-BSD's PBI installerbut without 
the trouble of integrating and maintaining your own desktop experience.

enjoy, ke han


On Oct 11, 2006, at 11:10 AM, cothrige wrote:


I am a complete newb to BSD trying to get started learning a bit about
how to make my way in it.  I have been using Slackware over the last
four years or so, and this has made me a bit used to one way of doing
things and now the FreeBSD way is kind of rattling me.

For some background, I installed from the FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE discs,
and this is also what I get from uname -r.  What I don't understand is
the relationship between ports, packages and security.  For instance,
I am currently using firefox 1.5.0.1, which I keep seeing online is
not terribly secure.  However, I am confused about what FreeBSD makes
available to update this and other similar packages.  I installed this,
and most of the rest of the system, from the discs via packages, and
hope to keep packages as my main method.  I have had some experience
in the past with twenty hour compiles of kdelibs on Gentoo and really
don't want that again but I cannot find any info anywhere on how to
approach updating for security via packages.

I installed once previously as a test, and in that system followed the
only online information I could find which seemed relevant, and that
was regarding cvsup.  I backed up the ports directory and setup a
supfile according the handbook and a couple of examples, and went
ahead and ran it.  From there I started checking how things would go
if I ran portupgrade on a couple of apps.  I chose the infamous
kdelibs as my sample.  When I ran portupgrade -P, just to check
things out and see what I would get, it failed to find a package and
started grabbing the source.  No, couldn't do that, so I killed it.
I then tried again with portsnap and got the same result.

When I looked at the complaint I found that it was looking for what
appeared to be a nonexistent file.  I am not sure now, but it was
something like kdelibs-3.5.4 and the server it was searching on,
something which ended in ...packages-6.1-release I think, had only
kdelibs-3.5.1.  As a matter of fact, I went through all the
directories I could find online (including 6 and 7 stable, release and
current) and was unable to find the package my system was looking for
in any of them.  This failure, and the confusion which ensued, are
what cause me to wonder just how to keep things like the
aforementioned firefox up to date.

I am now in a situation where I am unsure of what to do as regards
updates, and can really find nothing which clarifies things much
online.  Everything I find says to run cvsup and use a supfile
entirely like that which I used before, and that did not work out.
How do I use new, more secure ports and yet still be able to use
binary packages?  Is updating ports with cvsup the only way?  And if
so, what did I do wrong before?  The inability to use binary packages
for giant, though in my case needed, bloatware like kde made me leave
Gentoo behind and I want to know whether that is the only future for
FreeBSD too.  I am assuming that since there are binary packages
online for these files they must be usable, I just don't know how to
get to them from tools like portupgrade.  Or if that is how you even
try to upgrade a system from packages.  I just can't find any really
relevant guides for this type of thing, so I am supposing that
everyone just compiles everything.

Any help in this is very much appreciated, and sorry if I am
overlooking super obvious information somewhere about this.  I
probably am, but I just can't find it.

Patrick

A few misconceptions I wanted to help clear up for you:

FreeBSD, like Gentoo Linux, (and most other Unix variants) compiles 
ports from source and installs them for the most up to date versions 
possible provided by the ports maintainer.


It seems that PCBSD actually has an extra layer for package maintenance 
called PBI files, which are essentially precompiled binary packages from 
the looks of it. Not sure if you want that sort of simplistic 
pre-packaged scheme though, but (at first glance) it seems like a good 
package maintenance system..


The best means to update FreeBSD's ports (bandwidth wise if you update 
frequently) is using portsnap. I don't have the conf file right in front 
of me, 

Re: iDefense Security Advisory 10.10.06: FreeBSD ptrace PT_LWPINFO Denial of Service Vulnerability

2006-10-10 Thread Colin Percival
Bill Moran wrote:
 Colin Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a local denial of service bug, which was fixed 6 weeks ago in HEAD
 ^^^
 That was what I expected.  Section III seems to hint that it could be
 used by an unprivilidged user to crash or lock a system.

Yes.  An unprivileged user who is able to execute code on an affected system
can cause a kernel panic.  There are a variety of reasons for not treating
bugs like this as security issues; the strongest reason imho is that if one
of your users is making a system crash, you can disable his account and call
the police.

 BTW, are you going to be at NYCBSDCon?

No -- I only go to conferences if I have a paper to present.

Colin Percival

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Re: Help

2006-10-10 Thread Amarendra Godbole

On 10/10/06, Nikola Popovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi for the first time i have install FreeBsd 6.1 and i have a problem. I use
standard setup and when a make all partition for BSD root swap usr then the
problem begins. The messege Unable to write data to disk ad2!  I make
just one  partition on the disk. CAN you help me
Please write to me.

[...]

Kindly read the FreeBSD handbook, here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

Best,
Amarendra
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idle auto logoff

2006-10-10 Thread Noah

Hi there,

I recently took over the adminstration of a FreeBSD machine at work and 
cannot figure out what is auto logging me off when I am idled on the 
machine.


Might somebody have some ideas about how I can hunt this down so I can 
stop it?


cheers,

Noah


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Re: idle auto logoff

2006-10-10 Thread Olivier Nicole
 I recently took over the adminstration of a FreeBSD machine at work and 
 cannot figure out what is auto logging me off when I am idled on the 
 machine.

Are you ruunning something called idled?

Olivier
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