Re: www/linux-flashplayer7 - now works with SOUND on youtube
On 7/12/07, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 11:18:42PM +0100, Jamie Jones wrote: On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:19:02 + Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007 19:35:47 RW wrote: I don't recall ever having a problem with sound on youtube with Flash7 - the problems were with Flash9 which relies on ALSA. Are you using it with the linux-binary ? I don't know anyone who has managed to get sound from youtube (other sites are ok) with linux-flashplugin7 under a native browser with the pluginwrapper before now! The Linux Flash plugin is working fine, including sound, on YouTube, with my FreeBSD-native browser. I'm using the nspluginwrapper port for a plugin wrapper (as opposed to the linuxpluginwrapper). Does that mean Flash9 is a no-go on FreeBSD? It means there's no sound with Flash9. The flashplugin9 port comes with lofi's compiled libflashsupport tuned to OSS, so that shouldn't be an issue. Indeed, I just tried flash9 again, and I do get sound (the other issues with flash9 are another story) Yeah . . . Flash 9 is quite broken for me. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Paul Graham: Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to build programs out of the wrong concepts. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Indeed, nspluginwrapper works very fine for me with 6-stable packages. The youtube homepage seems to crash, but that's what google is for :) nspluginwrapper seems more simple to setup then linuxpluginwrapper, no configuration files. I've never gotten linuxpluginwrapper to work, either, so... -- Jim Capozzoli D6499626857801B6065013E3645A6B75 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using FreeBSD iconv on Linux
In the last episode (Jul 13), Manjunath Warad said: Can someone direct me as how to use FreeBSD iconv on linux? I know there exists a GNU iconv on linux; however, I am interested in using FreeBSD iconv. I would be grateful if someone let me know how to get the complete package [source code and makefiles] on windows machine and if possible let me know what are the changes involved to port the source code and makefiles to build in Linux. The sources are at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bland/ , but it really hasn't been updated since 2000. All the FreeBSD ports depend on GNU iconv. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trailing / required in URL
On my old R4.6 server I get a “The connection has timed out” error when I enter http://192.168.1.1/test while http://192.168.1.1/test/ serves the expected page. On my new R6.2 server http://192.168.1.1/test works as expected. Regards from Kjell ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
max resolution with vesa driver on amd64 system running FreeBSD 6.2
Hi folks, I'm having problems with my monitor on freebsd. The vesa driver uses 1024X768 while the monitor is capable of doing 1680x1050. Observed here as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/5801 Using the nv driver is no option because it freezes my system and I have to turn the power down to start booting the system again. Am I in a problematic situation now because: 1) Vesa isn't capable of using higher resolutions? 2) I can use NV because the driver isn't ok on my amd64 system 3) Nvidia doesn't provide a FreeBSD version of their nvidia driver on AMD64 based systems? Brgds - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kmail Problems after update
Dnia sobota, 14 lipca 2007 04:38, Dantavious napisał: Hi. It seems that after my update to kde 3.5.7, my kmail filters do not work. They only work if I select each message and apply the filter manually. If I try to do several at a time kmail crashes. Anyone else seeing this or know what I can do to fix this. Derrick Hi Derrick, I have also this same problem. Zbyszek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Obmenu
Hi All, I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on this, I have come accross it before but cant remember how to resolve ? I think there are some Perl modules to install and vaguely recall something to do with cpan but thats about it. I downloaded the latest obmenu [a graphical menu editor for OpenBox] and foloowed the instructions - results below ; $ su root Password: 3bsd# python setup.py install running install running build running build_py creating build creating build/lib copying obxml.py - build/lib running build_scripts creating build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting obmenu - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-xdg - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-dir - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-moz - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-nav - build/scripts-2.4 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obmenu from 644 to 755 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obm-xdg from 644 to 755 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obm-dir from 644 to 755 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obm-moz from 644 to 755 copying build/lib/obxml.py - /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages byte-compiling /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/obxml.py to obxml.pyc running install_scripts copying build/scripts-2.4/obmenu - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-xdg - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-dir - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-moz - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-nav - /usr/local/bin changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obmenu to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-xdg to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-dir to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-moz to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-nav to 755 running install_data creating /usr/local/share/obmenu copying obmenu.glade - /usr/local/share/obmenu copying icons/mnu16.png - /usr/local/share/obmenu copying icons/mnu48.png - /usr/local/share/obmenu 3bsd# exit exit $ obmenu Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/obmenu, line 21, in ? import obxml, gtk, gtk.glade, gobject, random, time, os, sys ImportError: No module named gtk If anyone could help with this it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mod_security2
Hi guys, Do any of you use mod_security2? An article just came up on HowToForge about it, and I'm skeptic about installing it on my FreeBSD box. Is mod_security2 ok? Will it load the CPU? Will it make apache22 slow? http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_mod_security_debian_etch ModSecurity is an Apache module that provides intrusion detection and prevention for web applications. It aims at shielding web applications from known and unknown attacks, such as SQL injection attacks, cross-site scripting, path traversal attacks, etc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finally Converting From Bind 8 - Bind 9
Tim Daneliuk wrote: Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Tim Daneliuk wrote: 2) Better still is there some sort of include mechanism where I could keep a flat file of public host information for use by db.external, but include it into db.internal. I don't think there is, but let someone who uses bind more than I do give a definitive on that :-) What you *can* do, irrespective of bind version, is to have two files which you pre-process with m4, and have a third file which m4 includes on both the others. So you start with: internal.M4 which includes shared external.M4 which also includes shared shared which gets included in the other two. Then m4 internal.M4 internal and m4 external.M4 - external. Bind then loads internal and external. A reasonable and very Unix-ish solution, certainly. Though, I think the subsequent post on this thread regarding $INCLUDE is probably more elegant ;) Certainly, since bind supports it (it's even in my Bind 8 book, though I never noticed it before). Of course, you can do a heck of a lot more with m4, and it's not limited to bind, but in this case I would say that simplicity wins hands down ;-) --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Obmenu
Graham Bentley a écrit : Hi All, I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on this, I have come accross it before but cant remember how to resolve ? I think there are some Perl modules to install and vaguely recall something to do with cpan but thats about it. I downloaded the latest obmenu [a graphical menu editor for OpenBox] and foloowed the instructions - results below ; $ su root Password: 3bsd# python setup.py install running install running build running build_py creating build creating build/lib copying obxml.py - build/lib running build_scripts creating build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting obmenu - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-xdg - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-dir - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-moz - build/scripts-2.4 copying and adjusting pipes/obm-nav - build/scripts-2.4 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obmenu from 644 to 755 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obm-xdg from 644 to 755 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obm-dir from 644 to 755 changing mode of build/scripts-2.4/obm-moz from 644 to 755 copying build/lib/obxml.py - /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages byte-compiling /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/obxml.py to obxml.pyc running install_scripts copying build/scripts-2.4/obmenu - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-xdg - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-dir - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-moz - /usr/local/bin copying build/scripts-2.4/obm-nav - /usr/local/bin changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obmenu to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-xdg to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-dir to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-moz to 755 changing mode of /usr/local/bin/obm-nav to 755 running install_data creating /usr/local/share/obmenu copying obmenu.glade - /usr/local/share/obmenu copying icons/mnu16.png - /usr/local/share/obmenu copying icons/mnu48.png - /usr/local/share/obmenu 3bsd# exit exit $ obmenu Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/obmenu, line 21, in ? import obxml, gtk, gtk.glade, gobject, random, time, os, sys ImportError: No module named gtk If anyone could help with this it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Graham, --- File /usr/local/bin/obmenu, line 21, in ? import obxml, gtk, gtk.glade, gobject, random, time, os, sys ImportError: No module named gtk --- You must first install py-gtk2 = http://www.freshports.org/x11-toolkits/py-gtk2/ To install the port: |make -C /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-gtk2/ install clean| After run obmenu. Bye bye. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X fails after upgrade to xorg-7.2; FreeBSD AMD64 w/ Radeon 9600 Pro[SOLVED]
This is weird, but the fix for my system (thanks Albert) is to force the AGP to PCI bus by setting the appropriate (or maybe inappropriate:-) option in the Device section of my xorg.conf, i.e: Section Device Option BusType PCI Identifier Card0 Driver radeon VendorName ATI Technologies Inc BoardName RV350 AP [Radeon 9600] BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Haven't tried to play video clips yet, but dragging an xterm around the on desktop (xfce4) is very smooth now. Byron - WA4GEG ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Transfering a File From One Server To Another
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:41:21 -0700 (PDT)
Pat Singer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
however nc didn't work because it doesn't accomodate authentication
Hi Pat,
I'm curious...what does authentication (and nc not supporting it) have to do
with the situation you explained? I mean...u log in before hand to each
machine, then transfer the data between each socket handled by each nc
instance...
thanks :)
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Re: mod_security2
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:03:24 +0300
Bazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An article just came up on HowToForge about it, and I'm skeptic about
installing it on my FreeBSD box.
Is mod_security2 ok?
I dont know, sorry
Will it load the CPU?
more than not running it? definitely. Too much that is unacceptable for your
needs? i dont think we can tell, give it a try in a test server and see how it
affects your loads.
Will it make apache22 slow?
along the same lines :) executing code that is not directly related to serving
your pages will mean your server will have less time for processing the web
requests... is this acceptable, given the benefits you may get? i dont know :)
http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_mod_security_debian_etch ModSecurity is an
Apache module that provides intrusion detection and prevention for web
applications. It aims at shielding web applications from known and unknown
attacks, such as SQL injection attacks, cross-site scripting, path traversal
attacks, etc.
it sounds like a pretty useful module...may be doing some heavy lifting though..
let us know what you find out :)
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Re: mod_security2
Bazy wrote: Hi guys, Do any of you use mod_security2? An article just came up on HowToForge about it, and I'm skeptic about installing it on my FreeBSD box. Is mod_security2 ok? Will it load the CPU? Will it make apache22 slow? http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_mod_security_debian_etch ModSecurity is an Apache module that provides intrusion detection and prevention for web applications. It aims at shielding web applications from known and unknown attacks, such as SQL injection attacks, cross-site scripting, path traversal attacks, etc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to have mod_security (the original one, not 2) on my debian server. It works great, the increase in security outweighs the few more resources the server needs. Will it slow you down? That depends on your hardware and the amount of traffic you are receiving. Mine was (is) a small web server and there was no noticeable performance penalty from mod_security. And it does all that is promised in the article you found. In fact I was tempted to move to mod_security2 when I upgraded my apache server, but mod_security2 has different directives / rules and could not find a good tutorial at the time to convert my original rules. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel G965 chipset?
On 14/07/2007 8:07 AM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: ... === My Question: So, can I use an Intel motherboard with the 965 chipset? If not, what is the latest chipset I can use which will meet my needs? We use the 965 based boards for many of our servers and they work fine - the only gotchas I have come across has been the onboard IDE controller is a Marvell ATA controller, and not supported by the drivers in 6.2-RELEASE. I made a back-port of the -CURRENT driver to 6.2 some months ago and have not had any problems (although the CD-ROM connected to said IDE channel is only used for the installation process!). I would imagine that the driver is likely present in 6-STABLE and the upcoming 6.3 release later this year. --Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing in a logical partition
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:44:57 +0200 h p [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to install FreBSD 6.2 as third OS on my laptop (after Windows XP and Gentoo Linux). I only have a logical partition left for it. sysinstall only shows four slices on my hard drive, ad4s1 - ad4s4. ad4s4 is correctly recognized as a DOS extended partition, but the logical partitions inside it are not displayed - so I can't select the slice I have set aside for FreeBSD. Is this possible? I don't find that limitation in the handbook, and it seems utterly anachronistic to me. What can I do to get around this? Josh is right; you can't install to or boot from a 'logical partition', it needs to be one of the 4 primary slices. That said, FreeBSD can access each 'logical drive' in the 'extended partition' (FAT16/32, NTFS and HPFS (r/o), probably ext2fs, and of course UFS), here as ad4s5, ad4s6 .. Are all three of ad4s1 to ad4s3 now in use for XP and Gentoo? Do you have other 'logical drives' already in ad4s4 that can't go elsewhere? Could you maybe install Gentoo in the 'extended partition', freeing up its primary slice for FreeBSD? Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using FreeBSD iconv on Linux
In the last episode (Jul 14), Manjunath Warad said: From: Dan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In the last episode (Jul 13), Manjunath Warad said: Can someone direct me as how to use FreeBSD iconv on linux? I know there exists a GNU iconv on linux; however, I am interested in using FreeBSD iconv. I would be grateful if someone let me know how to get the complete package [source code and makefiles] on windows machine and if possible let me know what are the changes involved to port the source code and makefiles to build in Linux. The sources are at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/bland/ , but it really hasn't been updated since 2000. All the FreeBSD ports depend on GNU iconv. Thanks for your reply Dan, You mean, FreeBSD iconv is using GNU iconv library internally? I was interested in the iconv source code. Please let me know whether FreeBSD has its own source code for iconv. There is no iconv at all in the base system. Any port that requires iconv sets the USE_ICONV Makefile variable, which will add the converters/libiconv (GNU iconv) port as a dependency. The link I gave above is for a BSD-licensed version of iconv, but it never got into the base system, just the ports tree. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Garbled text in xterm
Hmm. I've never heard of any symptoms quite like this. A few stabs in the dark: What happened if you used no xorg.conf at all? Did you get the same xterm problem? Do you have a locale set? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter
Jose Luis Alarcon Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My PC box have this Ethernet adapter (Linux kernel description): Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) Attansic is now part of Atheros, but I can't find enough information on that card to try matching it to a driver. If you have the hardware available, you might try booting from a CD and see if it is recognized. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Data corruption with Ide Raid Card
Hi, On our dev environnement, we have a clone server with a Promise FastTrak Tx2000 Pata Raid Card When we installed freebsd, it got detected and I didn't do anything special during the installation. Yesterday, a hard drive failed. Freebsd crashed with write errors on screen. I rebooted and removed the hard drive marked as dead in the raid controller. Freebsd booted up no problem, but I lost a couple of tables in some databases in mysql. Is there anything I forgot/did wrong to get into this problem ? or is it just that these controllers are so crappy that explain the corruption ? I more used to scsi hardware raid controllers in freebsd and never had a data corruption problem before even when disk died or because we hot-removed them. Any idea ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-6.1 bootup hangs after power failure
Nikola Lecic wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:32:54 +0545 Tek Bahadur Limbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Due to a power outage, my FreeBSD-6.1 (i386) machine got rebooted. However, upon reboot right after the initial startup menu, it simply hangs. I tried rebooting the machine several times but in vain. My Bios detects my hard drive. Also since I get the initial startup menu, something must be wrong or corrupted in the Boot loader. Can somebody point me or give me any hints about fixing this problem. I have really some information in my hard drive which I want to keep or restore. Hello Tek, The first thing I'd do is to download FreeSBIE (if you already don't have it), boot from it and do some initial inspection of the main drive. Then you will probably collect some more data about status of file systems etc. that will allow people from this list to share with you much more useful advices than it's possible at the moment. Hi Nikola, Thank you for your tips. I will download the FreeSBIE live CD tomorrow and follow it up with your suggestions. One thing I find FreeBSD very fussy and sensitive in comparison to Linux OSes is that whenever there is an power outage, something wrong is bound to happen. Maybe, it was made to happen this way but living in here over the other side of the world, we do have to face power outages despite our best efforts. Thanking you... Nikola Lečić -- With best regards and good wishes, Yours sincerely, Tek Bahadur Limbu (TAG/TDG Group) Jwl Systems Department Worldlink Communications Pvt. Ltd. Jawalakhel, Nepal http://www.wlink.com.np ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-6.1 bootup hangs after power failure
On Saturday 14 July 2007 17:36:05 Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote: Thank you for your tips. I will download the FreeSBIE live CD tomorrow and follow it up with your suggestions. One thing I find FreeBSD very fussy and sensitive in comparison to Linux OSes is that whenever there is an power outage, something wrong is bound to happen. Maybe, it was made to happen this way but living in here over the other side of the world, we do have to face power outages despite our best efforts. Before I installed FreeBSD, I had been using PC-BSD on the same laptop on which I now have FreeBSD. I had only been running PC-BSD on the laptop for a little over a week, when it crashed. I rebooted the machine and I had an unbootable system. It would start to boot and then lockup as soon as KDE appeared, so I think the problem wasn't PC-BSD but KDE. I then installed FreeBSD. If this happens again, I will try installing gdm or xdm to see if that fixes the problem. Because of your experience as described in this thread, I think I will put off installing FreeBSD on my desktop machines until I have an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) installed. I don't know if there are certain models of UPS's that will work with FreeBSD better than others. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-6.1 bootup hangs after power failure
Pollywog wrote: On Saturday 14 July 2007 17:36:05 Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote: Thank you for your tips. I will download the FreeSBIE live CD tomorrow and follow it up with your suggestions. One thing I find FreeBSD very fussy and sensitive in comparison to Linux OSes is that whenever there is an power outage, something wrong is bound to happen. Maybe, it was made to happen this way but living in here over the other side of the world, we do have to face power outages despite our best efforts. Before I installed FreeBSD, I had been using PC-BSD on the same laptop on which I now have FreeBSD. I had only been running PC-BSD on the laptop for a little over a week, when it crashed. I rebooted the machine and I had an unbootable system. It would start to boot and then lockup as soon as KDE appeared, so I think the problem wasn't PC-BSD but KDE. I then installed FreeBSD. If this happens again, I will try installing gdm or xdm to see if that fixes the problem. Because of your experience as described in this thread, I think I will put off installing FreeBSD on my desktop machines until I have an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) installed. I don't know if there are certain models of UPS's that will work with FreeBSD better than others. Generally the APC UPSes work fine with FreeBSD. There is the apcupsd port for controlled unattended shutdowns. They work fine in Linux too with the same program. You may also find other solutions that work fine with the nutups program. As for failing to reboot after a power failure, you must have been terribly unlucky... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS Problems/Questions
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 07:33:19PM -0400, Jason Morgan wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 07:42:24PM -0400, Jason Morgan wrote: On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Michael Smith wrote: Hello Jason: On Jun 23, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Jason Morgan wrote: I've been having some trouble with NFS performance for some time and now that class is out, I've had a bit of time to investigate but I'm stuck. Below are the details of my investigation. Hopefully, someone here can give me some advice. The basic problem is that my NFS performance is very slow. Right now, I am connecting two workstations to a NFS server, which has my home directory, etc, mounted. They are connected over a gigabit network (right now with mtu set to 7000, which is supported by all hardware -- changing it to 1500 has no effect on performance, which is strange). Each system is running 6.2-RELEASE or -STABLE. Each system is also using the following network card: # ifconfig sk0 sk0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 7000 options=bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 ether 00:17:9a:bb:05:87 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full- duplex,flag0,flag1) status: active # dmesg | grep sk skc0: D-Link DGE-530T Gigabit Ethernet port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfdff8000-0xfdffbfff irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0 skc0: DGE-530T Gigabit Ethernet Adapter rev. (0x9) sk0: Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. Yukon on skc0 sk0: Ethernet address: 00:17:9a:XX:XX:XX ## Server /etc/rc.conf settings rpcbind_enable=YES rpc_lockd_enable=YES rpc_statd_enable=YES nfs_server_enable=YES nfs_server_flags=-u -t -n 12 nfs_bufpackets=32 mountd_flags=-r ## Client /etc/rc.conf settings nfs_client_enable=YES nfs_bufpackets=32 nfsiod_enable=YES nfsiod_flags=-n 6 rpc_lockd_enable=YES rpc_statd_enable=YES rpcbind_enable=YES ## /etc/exports /usr -alldirs,maproot=root client1 client2 For performance benchmarking, I am using dd. Locally from the server, this is a representative result when writing a 1GB file: ## Local write test (for an upper-bound on what to expect). # dd if=/dev/zero of=./nfs.dat bs=1024k count=1000 1000+0 records in 1000+0 records out 1048576000 bytes transferred in 19.580184 secs (53552919 bytes/sec) Connecting from a client (both clients get approximately the same results). ## Remote connection (UDP), mounted in /etc/fstab as with flags: ## rw,-U,-3,-r=32768,-w=32768 # dd if=/dev/zero of=./nfs.dat bs=1024k count=1000 1000+0 records in 1000+0 records out 1048576000 bytes transferred in 101.151139 secs (10366428 bytes/sec) ## Remote connection (TCP), mounted in /etc/fstab as with flags: ## rw,-T,-3,-r=32768,-w=32768 # dd if=/dev/zero of=./nfs.dat bs=1024k count=1000 1000+0 records in 1000+0 records out 1048576000 bytes transferred in 59.668585 secs (17573334 bytes/sec) As can be seen above, TCP is much faster than UPD. I have tried many different mount settings and these are the best results I could get. To test whether or not I have having network issues, I transferred the same nfs.dat file via a http connection and got ~32MB/sec -- almost 2x the speed of the TCP NFS connection. 32MB/sec is about what I would expect given that my fastest write speed is ~50MB/sec. At this point I am stumped. I have tried increasing/changing the number of nfsiod servers as well as nfs_bufpackets. No matter what settings I change, the results are always the same. I get only two errors, first on /var/log/messages on the server I have just begun seeing: Jun 22 21:13:47 crichton routed[666]: sendto(dc1, 224.0.0.2): Operation not permitted Jun 22 21:13:47 crichton routed[666]: sendto(sk0, 224.0.0.2): Operation not permitted Jun 22 21:13:50 crichton routed[666]: sendto(dc1, 224.0.0.2): Operation not permitted Jun 22 21:13:50 crichton routed[666]: sendto(sk0, 224.0.0.2): Operation not permitted This appeared after I added a route; however, I added the route after many of the tests were done. I get the same results now as before the new route. On one of the clients (the one running 6.2-RELEASE-p1), I also get a nasty error: nfs/tcp clnt: Error 60 reading socket, tearing down TCP connection This cropped up last night after I tweaked some settings. They have now been changed back, but I still get this error. The other client is unaffected. I appreciate any help people can provide on tracking down the issues. Sorry about the long email -- just trying to be thorough. Of course, I've searched the Internet and can't find any clear assistence on these issues. Cheers, ~Jason We use the
Re: FreeBSD-6.1 bootup hangs after power failure
On Saturday 14 July 2007 18:39:04 Manolis Kiagias wrote: Generally the APC UPSes work fine with FreeBSD. There is the apcupsd port for controlled unattended shutdowns. They work fine in Linux too with the same program. You may also find other solutions that work fine with the nutups program. As for failing to reboot after a power failure, you must have been terribly unlucky... My crash was unrelated to a power failure. We have lots of those in this part of California (Humboldt County) but this was on a laptop. It was just a crash that forced me to reboot, then the machine would not start properly. Thanks for the info about UPS's. I will start looking around and I will be sure to buy one before the rains start in October. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-6.1 bootup hangs after power failure
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:21:05 +0545 Tek Bahadur Limbu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I find FreeBSD very fussy and sensitive in comparison to Linux OSes is that whenever there is an power outage, something wrong is bound to happen. Maybe, it was made to happen this way but living in here over the other side of the world, we do have to face power outages despite our best efforts. My experiences are completely opposite. I find UFS stability and integrity superior to that of ext2/ext3 in cases such as power failures, and UFS background fsck-ing as a fascinating feature. (After power failure, UFS usually needs zero repairs thanks to soft updates.) What other wrong things you experienced? I agree with Manolis that you simply must have been terribly unlucky. Nikola Lečić ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can cron e-mail HTML?
Hello! I have a script launched from cron every morning, that gets certain data over the Internet from a remote computer, compares the new data with that from the previous day, and outputs the difference (if any). I'm relying on the fact, that cron e-mails me the output of each job. However, I modified the script recently to produce the output (if any) in HTML, rather than in plain-text format. The HTML arrives by e-mail just as well as plain text used to, but no e-mail program will render it as such, because neither the cron(8), nor the mail(1), which cron uses to send e-mail, creates MIME messages... How can I force the ``Content-Type: text/html'' header without hacking cron's sources? I'd rather avoid poluting my script with e-mail sending code... Maybe, cron should apply file(1)-like logic to the e-mailed content? Thanks for any hints. Yours, -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD-6.1 bootup hangs after power failure
Pollywog wrote: Because of your experience as described in this thread, I think I will put off installing FreeBSD on my desktop machines until I have an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) installed. Hmmm, it's just the experience of one person. I've encountered several power failures and not once my FreeBSD boxes failed to boot afterwards. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to start apache22 without ssl
Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:27:41 -0400
pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somethings isn't quite right here.
It was suggested I load the accf_http from the /boot/loader.conf file. I
did. So, now I removed the line from /boot/loader.conf; it is empty of
any directives. I rebooted and accf_http.ko is no longer in the kernel -
according to kldstat.
man loader.conf
Once you understand what loader.conf is for, and what a kernel module is, you
should understand what has happened.
ps xa | grep htt gives
/usr/local/sbin/httpd - DNOHTTPACCEPT
Something is fishy here... any thoughts?
nothing fishy at all. read the man, read about kernel modules, read :)
Why me? I always seem to get these weird anomalies... :(
sorry to break it to you, but odds are it's due to your current lack of
understanding of the system, rather than the universe poised against you :)
don't worry, it's fixable (understanding, not the universe ;) ).
Good luck,
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Warned.
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Well, I don't think the universe is against me. I rather think that
there is a really serious lack of communications skills among many
programmers. I find that often the simplest installations are overly
complicated and convoluted, if you will. For example, I have been
strugglling with the installation of CUPS. For some reason the CUPS
metaport would not install. I finally decided to install only the
cups-base and then the configuration and implementation were child's
play. No need to install gnu-ghostscript of gutenprint or any of the
other stuff - I just put the ppd file for my specific printer in the
cups/ppd directory, tweaked the configuration and bingo. The same for
OpenOffice.org... I had to figure out a way to simplify the installation
and had no need to go through 12 hours of compilation from the source
code. The binary was a snap, once I figured it out. Apache22 and Samba
had me confused for a while, but with a little help from the mailing
list I got straightened out and it all works like a charm.
But the httpd -DNOHTTPACEPT remains a mystery; after removing the
loader.config entry, I rebooted, checked the kldstat, found the module
no longer loaded in the kernel but the ps waux | grep httpd still came
up with -DNOHTTPDACCEPT. I did not do any further tweaking or make any
changes to apache22 and now it boots correctly and the -DNOHTTPDACCEPT
is no longer there. Now, wouldn't you say that is weird. But then, I do
admit that I do not understand the system.
However, I am the greatest fan of understanding you could find. That's
why I ask questions that may seem strange at times.
BTW, my advice to programmers and, for that matter, anyone in any kind
of a project - think about the end user and how he will see the results
of your works, how he will use it without having the creator's vision.
I enormously appreciate the help you and everyone who responded were
able to offer. Hope I can do so for others as I grow with the system.
Phil
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Re: how to start apache22 without ssl
sorry to break it to you, but odds are it's due to your current lack of understanding of the system, rather than the universe poised against you :) don't worry, it's fixable (understanding, not the universe ;) ). Fortunately,most things are! If I may add, for what it's worth, the only good thing I ever learned from a layer: You can't fix 'stupid'. ;) Phil ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems
They probably did it because the number of subscribers has increased to the point that they need to start limiting bandwidth to ensure that everyone gets their fair share. They probably allowed subscribers to exceed their allotted max bandwidth while the number of subscribers was sufficiently low that they did not have to worry about it. Now that they have a lot of subscribers, they have to worry about it. --- Sten Daniel Soersdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fbsd2 wrote: Comclark cable in Angeles City Philippines has changed from using 100Mbps Cable Modem to 10Mbps Cable Modem. To me this seems to be all wrong as all I see is slower response. Is there any technical or performance reason for any cable internet provider to downgrade their network subscribers cable modems from 100Mbps to 10Mbps? That reason could be compatibility. If you see slower response then perhaps something is wrong. Perhaps you should call their support and verify that you do not have a mismatched duplex setting? Mismatched duplex can come from misbehaving autonegotiation or that one end is set to full-duplex while the other end is set to half-duplex, or, one end is set to full-duplex and the other end is set to auto-negotiate (which results in falling back to half-duplex). -- Sten Daniel Soersdal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can cron e-mail HTML?
Derek Ragona wrote:
= = I'd rather avoid poluting my script with e-mail sending code...
= You need to change your script to send the email itself.
Thank you, Derek, but -- as I stated already -- I wanted to see, if this can
be avoided...
Since you posted your script, I'll comment on it. First of all, you don't need
ksh for anything you are doing in this script. FreeBSD's /bin/sh is enough
(we aren't Solaris :-) -- but is 9 times smaller here (amd64).
Now, instead of redirecting each line of output into MAILFILE, then mailing,
and removing it, you should be either outputing everything directly into
mail:
{
cat $REPORT_LOG_HEADER
echo$MAILFILE
echo$MAILFILE
echo BR BR $MAILFILE
cat $REPORT_LOG_FOOTER
} | $MAIL -s the report name $MAILTO
or, if you want to use the temporary file, use exec to redirect into it
_once_, instead of _on every line_:
exec $MAILFILE
cat $REPORT_LOG_HEADER
printf \n \nBRBR\n
$MAIL -s the report name $MAILTO $MAILFILE
$RM $MAILFILE
This may look nicer, but is not, because temporary files are nasty, and you
need to be sure, that you remove them in case you are interrupted (trapping
signals, etc.)
I was surprised, one can not redirect into a pipe directly. The following did
not work, as I expected, with neither /bin/sh nor /usr/local/bin/ksh93. The
following, I thought, would be the same as my first example, only
nicer-looking:
exec | $MAIL -s the report name $MAILTO
cat .
But it is not. So you have to chose from one of the first two examples. Yours,
-mi
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Re: Can cron e-mail HTML?
= To accomplish this I have my cron job run a script like this Sorry, I missed the most important part. Your script just uses /usr/bin/mail, the same way cron does. You are not adding anything, not already present in cron -- your script should simply produce output to stdout. Cron will mail all that to the address specified in MAILTO=... part of your crontab automatically. AFAIK, to make the e-mail message treated as a MIME one, the MIME-Version: 1.0 and Content-Type: ... have to be among _headers_. I'm afraid, it is not possible to directly manipulate the message's headers using mail(1), which is why I asked my question in the first place... -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can cron e-mail HTML?
On субота 14 липень 2007, Daniel Bye wrote: = How can I force the ``Content-Type: text/html'' header without hacking = cron's sources? I'd rather avoid poluting my script with e-mail sending = code... = = Alter your script to add the 'Content-Type: text/html' header. No, I'm afraid, doing this will make the quoted text part of the _body_ of the message. = Maybe, cron should apply file(1)-like logic to the e-mailed content? = No, cron doesn't need any knowledge of how to render email. I was not advocating adding such knowledge. My suggestion was to make cron add proper Content-Type, so that the /recepient's e-mail program/ will render the message correctly. My scripts generate HTML, someone else could be generating JPG images (from their web-camera, every morning)... = The script itself doesn't have to send the mail - cron will handle that if = there is any output when it exits, but you /can/ add headers to the message = as you need. = = Just make sure any custom headers come before the empty line delimiter = between headers and body, and most mail readers should do the right thing. The empty line is inserted by cron before any of the job's own output... This method will not work, unless the e-mail reader (incorrectly) acts upon parts of the body as if they were headers... Thanks! Yours, -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GUI Mail Reader for FreeBSD ...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of a good mail reader that does: PGP, unicode *and* shows inline html I'm tired of getting email from my family, for instance, that has inline images and having to look at each attachment seperately ... and have a friend that sends me email that has simplified chinese characters in it ... and others that send me PGP encrypted email ... Mulberry is good, but doesn't do two of the three ... sylpheed does PGP and Unicode, but unless I'm missing a setting) doesn't do inline html ... and kmail doesn't do the unicode or inline images ... So, is there anything that is good that actually does it all? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGmU9c4QvfyHIvDvMRAvU4AKCvBMFdj2aYVTvWQm8IwNHUT3/UxwCgqmkp vmAsJotYb4qpkL4oYCs4Jv0= =7Np1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can cron e-mail HTML?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Hello! I have a script launched from cron every morning, that gets certain data over the Internet from a remote computer, compares the new data with that from the previous day, and outputs the difference (if any). I'm relying on the fact, that cron e-mails me the output of each job. However, I modified the script recently to produce the output (if any) in HTML, rather than in plain-text format. The HTML arrives by e-mail just as well as plain text used to, but no e-mail program will render it as such, because neither the cron(8), nor the mail(1), which cron uses to send e-mail, creates MIME messages... How can I force the ``Content-Type: text/html'' header without hacking cron's sources? I'd rather avoid poluting my script with e-mail sending code... Alter your script to add the 'Content-Type: text/html' header. Maybe, cron should apply file(1)-like logic to the e-mailed content? No, cron doesn't need any knowledge of how to render email. Make sure the output of your script includes the Content-Type header, which your mail reader will spot and act upon accordingly. The script itself doesn't have to send the mail - cron will handle that if there is any output when it exits, but you /can/ add headers to the message as you need. Just make sure any custom headers come before the empty line delimiter between headers and body, and most mail readers should do the right thing. HTH Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI Mail Reader for FreeBSD ...
Marc G. Fournier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of a good mail reader that does: PGP, unicode *and* shows inline html I'm tired of getting email from my family, for instance, that has inline images and having to look at each attachment seperately ... and have a friend that sends me email that has simplified chinese characters in it ... and others that send me PGP encrypted email ... Mulberry is good, but doesn't do two of the three ... sylpheed does PGP and Unicode, but unless I'm missing a setting) doesn't do inline html ... and kmail doesn't do the unicode or inline images ... So, is there anything that is good that actually does it all? - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFGmU9c4QvfyHIvDvMRAvU4AKCvBMFdj2aYVTvWQm8IwNHUT3/UxwCgqmkp vmAsJotYb4qpkL4oYCs4Jv0= =7Np1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use Thunderbird. It's nice. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can cron e-mail HTML?
Mikhail Teterin wrote: = Alter your script to add the 'Content-Type: text/html' header. No, I'm afraid, doing this will make the quoted text part of the _body_ of the message. Ack. Yes, you're quite right. Sorry for the bum advice. = Maybe, cron should apply file(1)-like logic to the e-mailed content? = No, cron doesn't need any knowledge of how to render email. I was not advocating adding such knowledge. My suggestion was to make cron add proper Content-Type, so that the /recepient's e-mail program/ will render the message correctly. My scripts generate HTML, someone else could be generating JPG images (from their web-camera, every morning)... Hmm, an interesting idea. Now I understand what you meant, that is. = The script itself doesn't have to send the mail - cron will handle that if = there is any output when it exits, but you /can/ add headers to the message = as you need. = = Just make sure any custom headers come before the empty line delimiter = between headers and body, and most mail readers should do the right thing. The empty line is inserted by cron before any of the job's own output... This method will not work, unless the e-mail reader (incorrectly) acts upon parts of the body as if they were headers... Yep, absolutely right. Got my wrong brain on today! So it's beginning to look as if your best bet is in fact to make your script handle sending the mail, and to only have cron itself mail anything that is the result of an error arising from your script. Not the cleanest solution, but one that will get your messages formatted exactly how you want them. Cheers, Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems
This is right off the cable internet service providers website. Plan NamePlan Type (Speed Max) (Speed Min) Exceed 788 Residential 384 kbps 32 kbps Exceed 1350 Residential 512 kbps 64 kbps Exceed 2000 Comm w/o IP 768 kbps 128 kbps Exceed 3500 Comm w/o IP 1024 kbps 192 kbps Exceed 4000 Comm w/ IP 1024 kbps 192 kbps So 10Mbps = 10240kbps and 1024kbps = 1Mbps Then a 10Mbps cable modem can feed their network faster than even the fastest service plan they offer. Do I have correct understanding now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of L Goodwin Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:54 PM To: Sten Daniel Soersdal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems They probably did it because the number of subscribers has increased to the point that they need to start limiting bandwidth to ensure that everyone gets their fair share. They probably allowed subscribers to exceed their allotted max bandwidth while the number of subscribers was sufficiently low that they did not have to worry about it. Now that they have a lot of subscribers, they have to worry about it. --- Sten Daniel Soersdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fbsd2 wrote: Comclark cable in Angeles City Philippines has changed from using 100Mbps Cable Modem to 10Mbps Cable Modem. To me this seems to be all wrong as all I see is slower response. Is there any technical or performance reason for any cable internet provider to downgrade their network subscribers cable modems from 100Mbps to 10Mbps? That reason could be compatibility. If you see slower response then perhaps something is wrong. Perhaps you should call their support and verify that you do not have a mismatched duplex setting? Mismatched duplex can come from misbehaving autonegotiation or that one end is set to full-duplex while the other end is set to half-duplex, or, one end is set to full-duplex and the other end is set to auto-negotiate (which results in falling back to half-duplex). -- Sten Daniel Soersdal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems
Yup..and it goes back to my original point. If it saves $5/box times 100,000 units and they charge you the same for the box rental/purchase, its a good business decision. On 7/14/07, fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is right off the cable internet service providers website. Plan NamePlan Type (Speed Max) (Speed Min) Exceed 788 Residential 384 kbps 32 kbps Exceed 1350 Residential 512 kbps 64 kbps Exceed 2000 Comm w/o IP 768 kbps 128 kbps Exceed 3500 Comm w/o IP 1024 kbps 192 kbps Exceed 4000 Comm w/ IP 1024 kbps 192 kbps So 10Mbps = 10240kbps and 1024kbps = 1Mbps Then a 10Mbps cable modem can feed their network faster than even the fastest service plan they offer. Do I have correct understanding now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of L Goodwin Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:54 PM To: Sten Daniel Soersdal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems They probably did it because the number of subscribers has increased to the point that they need to start limiting bandwidth to ensure that everyone gets their fair share. They probably allowed subscribers to exceed their allotted max bandwidth while the number of subscribers was sufficiently low that they did not have to worry about it. Now that they have a lot of subscribers, they have to worry about it. --- Sten Daniel Soersdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fbsd2 wrote: Comclark cable in Angeles City Philippines has changed from using 100Mbps Cable Modem to 10Mbps Cable Modem. To me this seems to be all wrong as all I see is slower response. Is there any technical or performance reason for any cable internet provider to downgrade their network subscribers cable modems from 100Mbps to 10Mbps? That reason could be compatibility. If you see slower response then perhaps something is wrong. Perhaps you should call their support and verify that you do not have a mismatched duplex setting? Mismatched duplex can come from misbehaving autonegotiation or that one end is set to full-duplex while the other end is set to half-duplex, or, one end is set to full-duplex and the other end is set to auto-negotiate (which results in falling back to half-duplex). -- Sten Daniel Soersdal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to start apache22 without ssl
Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:27:41 -0400
pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Somethings isn't quite right here.
It was suggested I load the accf_http from the /boot/loader.conf file.
I
did. So, now I removed the line from /boot/loader.conf; it is empty of
any directives. I rebooted and accf_http.ko is no longer in the kernel
-
according to kldstat.
man loader.conf
Once you understand what loader.conf is for, and what a kernel module
is, you
should understand what has happened.
ps xa | grep htt gives
/usr/local/sbin/httpd - DNOHTTPACCEPT
Something is fishy here... any thoughts?
nothing fishy at all. read the man, read about kernel modules, read :)
Why me? I always seem to get these weird anomalies... :(
sorry to break it to you, but odds are it's due to your current lack of
understanding of the system, rather than the universe poised against you
:)
don't worry, it's fixable (understanding, not the universe ;) ).
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Well, I don't think the universe is against me. I rather think that
there is a really serious lack of communications skills among many
programmers. I find that often the simplest installations are overly
complicated and convoluted, if you will. For example, I have been
strugglling with the installation of CUPS. For some reason the CUPS
metaport would not install. I finally decided to install only the
cups-base and then the configuration and implementation were child's
play. No need to install gnu-ghostscript of gutenprint or any of the
other stuff - I just put the ppd file for my specific printer in the
cups/ppd directory, tweaked the configuration and bingo. The same for
OpenOffice.org... I had to figure out a way to simplify the installation
and had no need to go through 12 hours of compilation from the source
code. The binary was a snap, once I figured it out. Apache22 and Samba
had me confused for a while, but with a little help from the mailing
list I got straightened out and it all works like a charm.
But the httpd -DNOHTTPACEPT remains a mystery; after removing the
loader.config entry, I rebooted, checked the kldstat, found the module
no longer loaded in the kernel but the ps waux | grep httpd still came
up with -DNOHTTPDACCEPT. I did not do any further tweaking or make any
changes to apache22 and now it boots correctly and the -DNOHTTPDACCEPT
is no longer there. Now, wouldn't you say that is weird. But then, I do
admit that I do not understand the system.
However, I am the greatest fan of understanding you could find. That's
why I ask questions that may seem strange at times.
BTW, my advice to programmers and, for that matter, anyone in any kind
of a project - think about the end user and how he will see the results
of your works, how he will use it without having the creator's vision.
I enormously appreciate the help you and everyone who responded were
able to offer. Hope I can do so for others as I grow with the system.
Phil
I believe you have forgotten to set:
apache22_http_accept_enable=YES
in /etc/rc.conf.
Eduardo.
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Re: GUI Mail Reader for FreeBSD ...
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:34:04 -0300 Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone know of a good mail reader that does: PGP, unicode *and* shows inline html I use claws-mail and I love it. It can display inline html with the dillo plugin. Jona ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can cron e-mail HTML?
On субота 14 липень 2007, Daniel Bye wrote: = So it's beginning to look as if your best bet is in fact to make your = script handle sending the mail. Yeah, seems like it... = Not the cleanest solution, but one that will get your messages formatted = exactly how you want them. Well, I started looking into how much effort would it be to translate the strings returned by libmagic(3)'s routines into Content-Type. If it is easy enough, I could hack cron to analyze the job's output using magic_buffer(3) and set Content-Type if anything recognizable is detected... The translation is the difficult part :-( Instead of the standardized text/html for example, libmagic returns: HTML document text It is trying to be human-readable, while I need the machine-readable strings. There is stuff on-line that does the translation, but it is in much higher-level languages (like PHP), which think, hash-tables are free :-) Oh, well... -mi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mod_security2
--On July 14, 2007 1:03:24 PM +0300 Bazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Do any of you use mod_security2? An article just came up on HowToForge about it, and I'm skeptic about installing it on my FreeBSD box. Is mod_security2 ok? Will it load the CPU? Will it make apache22 slow? http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_mod_security_debian_etch ModSecurity is an Apache module that provides intrusion detection and prevention for web applications. It aims at shielding web applications from known and unknown attacks, such as SQL injection attacks, cross-site scripting, path traversal attacks, etc. I use mod_security on apache13 on a server that gets about 7 million hits a month. I haven't noticed any problems. I've been using it for several years now. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: ssh-copy-id
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quick router question
i want to build a quick a dirty router for a dev environment. this freebsd is has 3 interfaces, and ill want anything to be able to access anything, no firewalling. back in the day, i would accomplish the same thing in linux by setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to 1. is the be a network gateway from installation the only thing i need to set to allow this to happen? thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Does a low-cost, reliable switch exist?
I run a small network of under 20 clients. As such we don't have $500+ to drop on a Cisco switch. However the desktop consumer grade stuff is quickly turning me into an insomniac. I'm tired of being woke at 3:00 am to go fix network problems. Does anyone know if something like this exists? (see below) The dream: An ethernet switch that is, above all else, RELIABLE. I would sacrifice everything for 24/7 reliability. A switch that can operate for years without ever having to be power cycled, without ever locking up. A switch that won't lock up if a single client starts flooding it with bogus packets. A switch that won't try to 'auto-update' its onboard software. A switch that won't lock up if there is a short in a cable. A switch that won't lock up if two clients end up with the same MAC address. A switch that will facilitate the examination and editing of its routing tables, speed and duplex mode, as my experience with auto-negotiation casts a very dark shadow upon its reliability. A switch that can loose contact with a client and when it later regains contact, doesn't freak out and require a power cycle. A switch that, if it requires an online configuration interface, doesn't rely on the clients browser to have Java or JavaScript or Flash enabled, this utterly rapes universal accessability. A switch that doesn't try to sell itself on a bunch of bullshit features that nobody ever uses, shown surrounded by pictures of people holding a laptop on one knee while smiling cheek to cheek. A switch who's case doesn't look like a damn spaceship, with no ventilation - A rectangular steel case would be fine, thank you. A switch that doesn't require me to take out a second mortgage. I know this is asking a lot of a switch that doesn't cost 2 thousand dollars...but again I'll give up everything for reliability. I had thought about using a hub instead, but we have some pretty heavy internal traffic. Currently I'm using 3 Netgear GS108 Gigabit blue-box switches chained together for local traffic, with a FreeBSD server acting as the gateway to the outside world, running ipfw and natd. The switches eventually lock up. Sometimes they work for a day, a week, even a month without problems. Then at a random time of day or night, boom network goes down. It's not any individual defective switch as I've tried re-ordering them several times as well as testing them individually. The cables are all good and wired correctly. I've pulled my hair out trying to find what's wrong. I'm not sure I care anymore. I just need something stable enough that I can catch some sleep without this re-occurring nightmare. Is there hope? Thoughts? Suggestions? -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: quick router question
On 7/14/07, Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i want to build a quick a dirty router for a dev environment. this freebsd is has 3 interfaces, and ill want anything to be able to access anything, no firewalling. back in the day, i would accomplish the same thing in linux by setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward to 1. is the be a network gateway from installation the only thing i need to set to allow this to happen? thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can set the sysctl variable like so: sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1; You can make this change perist across a reboot by appending the following to /etc/rc.conf: gateway_enable=YES -Modulok- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Does a low-cost, reliable switch exist?
On 7/14/07, Modulok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip rantage I just need something stable enough that I can catch some sleep without this re-occurring nightmare. Is there hope? Thoughts? Suggestions? -Modulok- Look at eBay for a used 24 port HP switch. They are reliable, and the lifetime warranty doesn't go away because you bought it used. They have serial console ports. In particular, take a look at the ProCurve 2510-24. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: how to start apache22 without ssl
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:44:54 -0400 pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't think the universe is against me. I rather think that there is a really serious lack of communications skills among many programmers. hi Phil, i think you are mistakenly believing everyone in this list are programmers. We are not, as you can see from the variety of issues brought up. If you head to -hackers@ you may find just kernel developers,though :) I find that often the simplest installations are overly complicated and convoluted, if you will. We can all help by suggesting better ways of doing things. And/or spending time researching and devising new ways of making things better for everyone. For example, I have been strugglling with the installation of CUPS. For some reason the CUPS metaport would not install. I finally decided to install only the cups-base and then the configuration and implementation were child's play. then the issue most probably was with something other than just CUPS, but one of the components and their dependencies. No need to install gnu-ghostscript of gutenprint or any of the other stuff well, now you have the experience to know that you dont need to install the whole thing to have your system working the way you want. Which, IMHO, is one of the best things about OSS. - I just put the ppd file for my specific printer in the cups/ppd directory, tweaked the configuration and bingo. The same for OpenOffice.org... I had to figure out a way to simplify the installation and had no need to go through 12 hours of compilation from the source code. It only takes an hour , tops 3, to build on a P4 3.0 GHz with HT , 1 GB RAM. I'll try to time it next time... The binary was a snap, once I figured it out. yes, learning to pick packages instead of building from ports is one of those oh,this is so great moments. :) Apache22 and Samba had me confused for a while, but with a little help from the mailing list I got straightened out and it all works like a charm. But the httpd -DNOHTTPACEPT remains a mystery ok - did you read the man pages about /boot/loader.conf ? did you search the web about how to use it? ; after removing the loader.config entry, I rebooted, checked the kldstat, found the module no longer WAD (Working As Designed) - if you don't tell the kernel to load a module via adding it to /boot/loader.conf, the kernel won't do it by itself. Pretty simple really. ( of course, this refers to modules NOT built into the kernel, and those that are not needed by other modules that *are* listed in loader.conf) loaded in the kernel but the ps waux | grep httpd still came up with -DNOHTTPDACCEPT. If Kernel does NOT have accf_http loaded, then apache will start with that parameter. Simple as that. In case you didnt come across this anywhere, you put in loader.conf information for the boot process to process @ start up. kernel hints, as well as kernel modules to load. Now, in your if you remove your entry and reboot, the kernel wouldnt find the instruction to load the module , so it wont do it. then apache starts, cant find accf_http in the kernel and it'll start up with the -DNOmumblemumble to prevent accessing code it isnt there in the kernel. I did not do any further tweaking or make any changes to apache22 and now it boots correctly and the -DNOHTTPDACCEPT is no longer there. Now, wouldn't you say that is weird. not at all. Re-read all the thread on this subject again, read about what kernel modules are and how they are used,etc. If you still have questions, But then, I do admit that I do not understand the system. Fixable too , to the level that you are interested to, of course - nobody expects you and every other user of FreeBSD to become kernel developers (although it'd be OK if you did :) ). Have you read the Handbook? it is installed by default (i think) in your Fbsd system under /usr/share/doc/handbook, and it's available in freebsd.org too. There are LOTS of man pages with excellent information. FreeBSD is probably the best documented OSS project of large size around. Beats most Linux documentation hands down, IMHO. The mailing lists are simply fantastic, and they all keep archives (as well as several independent sites archiving them too). Check out the list of different topics in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL (yes, part of the handbook), subscribe to as many topics you find interesting (email is cheap!) and invest some time in it. Or just browse the archives. Also, Dan Lagille maintains http://www.freebsddiary.org/ , a great site (some would call now it 'blog' though it's been around for longer than the term ;) ) with specific solutions to issues or things Dan has had to do with FreeBSD. It's a great read when you dont know what to learn next :) However, I am the greatest fan of understanding you could find. That's why I ask questions that may seem
Re: GUI Mail Reader for FreeBSD ...
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:10:49 +0200
Jona Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use claws-mail and I love it. It can display inline html with the
dillo plugin.
yeah, claws-mail is superb. Thunderbird was becoming too sluggish for me (i
switched over a year ago...claws- reminds me of another gem of email clients,
XFMail, which i think is not being developed anymore). It is highly
configurable. It has some bugs here and there, but nothing i can't live with
(or without ).
I use the gtk-htmls plugin for html email viewing. it works fine, except that
the default font (as sent from outlook / outlook express) shows too small (as
in tiny)...but i cant be bothered trying to figure out how to change that :-)
i had used dillo, but i found that quite often it'd spin out of control or spaw
process that wouldnt die easily. it was at least 6 months back (or more), so it
may be different now.
GTKhtml2 , and dillo too, i think, allow you to prevent loading of remote
images to prevent remote snooping on what you read or you dont.
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Re: OT: Does a low-cost, reliable switch exist?
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:42:09 -0600
Modulok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Currently I'm using 3 Netgear GS108 Gigabit blue-box switches chained
together for local traffic, with a FreeBSD server acting as the gateway to
the outside world, running ipfw and natd. The switches eventually lock up.
I've given up on netgear for any new purchases...is still have a stack of
them,but wouldnt use them for anything critical.
Sometimes they work for a day, a week, even a month without problems. Then
at a random time of day or night, boom network goes down. It's not any
individual defective switch as I've tried re-ordering them several times as
well as testing them individually. The cables are all good and wired
correctly. I've pulled my hair out trying to find what's wrong. I'm not sure
I care anymore. I just need something stable enough that I can catch some
sleep without this re-occurring nightmare.
Are the switches behind a UPS?
I've found power spikes / brown-outs break absolute havoc with dumb switches.
they are back up, but in a zombie state. u need to power them down for a few
minutes (completelly unplugged from mains) for them to come back to life
properly.
Is there hope? Thoughts? Suggestions?
add a simple timer to the power socket where the switch is plugged in and reset
them automatically every 24 hours or so ? If your network so critical that it
wouldn't support a daily scheduled minor outage , then you should spend the $
in cisco, HP , 3com (i'd heard people swear by 3com...not sure if the old ones
or current ones though..grep the archives), etc.
for a few ports (router), you could always build your own or buy one of the
small factor Soekris with freebsd in it, but i doubt you'll get more than 4
ports in one.
let us know what you come up with :)
B
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Re: mod_security2
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:38:44 -0500
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use mod_security on apache13 on a server that gets about 7 million hits
a month. I haven't noticed any problems.
paranoiawell, it could well be that the hack attempts that succeded were
never detected by mod_security ;) /
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Re: Trailing / required in URL
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:15:24 +0200
Kjell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On my old R4.6 server I get a “The connection has timed out” error when I
enter http://192.168.1.1/test while http://192.168.1.1/test/ serves the
expected page.
On my new R6.2 server http://192.168.1.1/test works as expected.
I think this would be related more to your webserver . If you have Apache
installed, mod_dir is in charge of handling ending /..
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dir.html
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email's time stamp
hello: trying to understand the email's time stamps. how do i determine the time stamps on those emails i received? are those emails time stamped by the mail servers originated those mails (in that particular time zone)? or by the last mail relay server (in another time zone) delivering those mails? say some mails originated from one server is in asia and final destination mail relay is in europe. so the time stamps on those mails are in that particular asia time zone or in the time zone of europe time zone? thanks Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
