Review on Software Firewalls

2007-11-22 Thread Donovan R. Palmer
Here is a great blog on seven Linux/BSD firewalls.  
http://linuxcult.blogspot.com/2007/11/seven-different-linuxbsd-firewalls.html 
The winner is PFSense which is (ta-da!), based on FreeBSD.  I have been using 
PFSense for nearly a year now and totally agree with this blog's conclusions.
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Re: Questions on behaviour of fetch(3) regarding HTTPS + proxy

2007-11-22 Thread RW
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:27:48 -0500
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The systems
 in question have no way to connect without using the proxy, and I'd
 like to convince fetch(3) to use the proxy for https as well. 

curl  wget work, if it's any help
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Re: who do I report this to?

2007-11-22 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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 The first thing to do is to make sure it is not your ISP inflicting you
with
 some slowdown. Connect a second node to the re interface (put a switch
 between you and the modem, and connect something else to it) and see
 if your connection speed to that local machine is affected.
 If not, then it is your isp that is the problem. Change ISPs to a
legitimate
 one.

I guess you don't read -current it is a confirmed re(4) issue (plus
some other things but the ISP has nothing to do with it)


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Re: Questions on behaviour of fetch(3) regarding HTTPS + proxy

2007-11-22 Thread Antony Mawer

On 22/11/2007 2:27 AM, Bill Moran wrote:

It seems that if I set HTTP_PROXY, fetch(1) works just dandy, _UNLESS_
I'm trying to fetch an https document, in which case it seems to
ignore HTTP_PROXY.


From memory:

export HTTPS_PROXY=http://myproxy:8080;

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Re: (no subject)

2007-11-22 Thread Chris
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:04:47 +0530
tusar kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi
i want to know how can i assembly laptop. i want a video copy

Awe! Where's  Frank Shute' Witty and sensible words of directions for
this user?!  See the thread subject Website for ref.



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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 21:26:41 Nov 21, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 A while ago I needed to screencast a terminal to a class of
 students in real-time. It turned out to be quite straightforward
 with screen(1) in multiuser mode.

screen(1) is really cool. :)

 Now I want to record screencasts and allow people to watch them
 later. I'm looking at recordmydesktop, but the innefficiency
 strikes me: I'm operating in text-only environment, there's no
 need to record every frame as a flat bitmap. Whatever codec I
 choose, the files will be huge and of low quality.

How about ttyrec(1) and ttyplay(1) ?

 What I need is something like script(1) on steroids:
 - accurately record the complete state of my terminal window at
   any given moment
 - store it as a succession of updates, each represented in a
   text-based format (as opposed to pixel-based)

If you want pixel based output then there are quite a few options but
none to my taste. As you mention they all are bloated.

 - record timings correctly
 - allow for a method to record speech in the background

This you have to do manually with sox(1). Not a big deal. A simple shell
script can do what you want.

 - allow for a method to play it all back in sync

This is no big deal either. If you want to create a video, then you have
to go in for pixel based stuff. You can however do efficient compression
and use a good codec like x264 or something.

 Has anyone heard about any tool which would help me achieve at
 least some of my requirements?

Your idea seems good enough to create an open source tool that does
exactly what you want.

Best,
Girish
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Re: dealing with a failing drive

2007-11-22 Thread David Newman
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On 11/18/07 11:30 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 idacontrol show | grep Status
 
 IF status is fully up it will say:
 
 Status: Logical drive ok

And that's what it does say. So far so good...

...but then each time I run idacontrol I get this in /var/log/messages:

Nov 21 17:01:30 mail kernel: ida0: soft error
Nov 21 17:01:36 mail last message repeated 59 times

Does this mean the controller is OK and the disks are dying? Or is it
expected behavior with idacontrol? Or something else?

thanks

dn

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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 03:29:55PM -0800, Kevin Downey wrote:
 On 11/21/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A while ago I needed to screencast a terminal to a class of
  students in real-time. It turned out to be quite straightforward
  with screen(1) in multiuser mode.
 
  Now I want to record screencasts and allow people to watch them
  later. I'm looking at recordmydesktop, but the innefficiency
  strikes me: I'm operating in text-only environment, there's no
  need to record every frame as a flat bitmap. Whatever codec I
  choose, the files will be huge and of low quality.
 
  What I need is something like script(1) on steroids:
  - accurately record the complete state of my terminal window at
any given moment
  - store it as a succession of updates, each represented in a
text-based format (as opposed to pixel-based)
  - record timings correctly
  - allow for a method to record speech in the background
  - allow for a method to play it all back in sync
 
  Has anyone heard about any tool which would help me achieve at
  least some of my requirements?
 
 Oh man, do I have an idea for you:
 subtitles!
 
 use mjpeg for video with just a black frame
 use whatever audio you want
 a modern container format and a modern subtitle method will let you
 put whatever characters you want where ever you want on the video.
 Boom a video that plays and the textual information is kept intact
 and can even be demuxed from the multimedia stuff.

There are basically two ways the subtitles are encoded: bitmap
and text. Both will require a full screen dump on every update.
Neither allow for colors (there are html hacks though). AFAIK,
there's no way to store activity in form of updates in subtitles.

Moreover, even in case of bitmaps, subtitles are still utterly
unstandardized. Their look is very player-dependent.

But the idea is cool, thanks! I might perform a few benchmarks
with mplayer when I have time.
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Re: who do I report this to?

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Backhaus
On Nov 20, 2007 5:11 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Who do I report the following issue to (it falls into at least 3 camps)?

 If I am downloading a torrent in deluge 0.5.6.2_1 *AND* am logged into
 gmail (*WITH* a chat open) my network connection looses about 90% of
 it's capacity (for all applications), re(4) with the following:

 rgephy0: RTL8169S/8110S/8211B media interface PHY 1 on miibus0
 rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
 1000baseT-FDX, auto

 After some experimenting this problem *only* occurs under the above
 conditions.

 Addtional info:

--snip--

The first thing to do is to make sure it is not your ISP inflicting you with
some slowdown. Connect a second node to the re interface (put a switch
between you and the modem, and connect something else to it) and see
if your connection speed to that local machine is affected.
If not, then it is your isp that is the problem. Change ISPs to a legitimate
one.
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FreeBSD, 160GB HD, and a Bios limitation - Thanks!

2007-11-22 Thread Christoper Tucker
Thanks for all your help ... I've got a better understanding of how this
works and I am now proceeding with an official non-test installation :)
- Chris
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Proftpd doesn't update last log properly

2007-11-22 Thread Anders Gulden Olstad
FreeBSD  6.2-RELEASE-p8 SPARC64
Ports: proftpd-1.3.1_2

I have a small annoying problem with my proftpd installation. It doesn't
update the last log properly. All logins are
left as still logged in with Jan 1 as date.

All other logins are correct, except ftp.

  user ftp  192.168.1.10 Thu Jan  1 01:00   still logged in

I've testet it in both FreeBSD jail and directly on host. Same result.
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Re: FreeBSD Production Release ISO images

2007-11-22 Thread Philip M. Gollucci

patrick wrote:

Hi there,

I'm wondering if the FreeBSD 6.2 Production Release ISO images get
updated periodically when there are important patches, or is it better
to download the latest snapshot to save the trouble of updating
everything after installing?
The iso's are never remade after the initial.  If its drastically 
broken, they might pull it from distribution, but other than that no.


Once you install from the ISO, you'll need to update via freebsd-update, 
or /usr/src, or whatever else you might be thinking of. (just make sure 
to use RELENG_6 tag)



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lightly loaded php+mysql - high syscall/csw rates

2007-11-22 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
We have a php+mysql web server. It serves 15-20 http requests per
second, resulting in 100-200 sql qps. But according to vmstat(1),
it all peaks at over 500k syscall/s and 100k cswitch/s. The peaks
are quite frequent, even at this load. During the peaks top(1)
shows 30-40k VCSW for mysql and around 1k vcsw for two php-cgi
worker processes. IVCSW is relatively very low for all processes.

This is a 4-core Opteron HP DL145 G2 server running 6.2/amd64
generic+quota. I'm considering a switch to 7.0.

During peaks user/system/idle in top(1) is 20/30/50.

The question is - is the syscall and csw rates normal or should I
be trying to tune mysql and php more agressively? I'm not hungry
for performance (haven't hit the limit yet), but a couple of days
ago the server stopped responding until a cold reboot (which is
another story) - and now I'm paying closer attention to its
vitals.
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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Kevin Downey
On 11/21/07, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A while ago I needed to screencast a terminal to a class of
 students in real-time. It turned out to be quite straightforward
 with screen(1) in multiuser mode.

 Now I want to record screencasts and allow people to watch them
 later. I'm looking at recordmydesktop, but the innefficiency
 strikes me: I'm operating in text-only environment, there's no
 need to record every frame as a flat bitmap. Whatever codec I
 choose, the files will be huge and of low quality.

 What I need is something like script(1) on steroids:
 - accurately record the complete state of my terminal window at
   any given moment
 - store it as a succession of updates, each represented in a
   text-based format (as opposed to pixel-based)
 - record timings correctly
 - allow for a method to record speech in the background
 - allow for a method to play it all back in sync

 Has anyone heard about any tool which would help me achieve at
 least some of my requirements?

Oh man, do I have an idea for you:
subtitles!

use mjpeg for video with just a black frame
use whatever audio you want
a modern container format and a modern subtitle method will let you
put whatever characters you want where ever you want on the video.
Boom a video that plays and the textual information is kept intact
and can even be demuxed from the multimedia stuff.

I leave the actual implementation as an exercise for the reader.


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Re: (no subject)

2007-11-22 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 01:43:05AM -0600, Chris wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:04:47 +0530
 tusar kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hi
 i want to know how can i assembly laptop. i want a video copy
 
 Awe! Where's  Frank Shute' Witty and sensible words of directions for
 this user?!  See the thread subject Website for ref.
 

So you've taken to trolling [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a fine example of the
American male you are!

This user gets cut some slack for having English as a second language.

You don't. You should have known better.


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firewall is blocking our access

2007-11-22 Thread Rodrigo Moura Bittencourt

Dear Gentlemen,

We INPE / CPTEC an institution of meteorology government of Brazil, we 
are having trouble accessing the servers of FreeBSD, we believe that 
your firewall is blocking our access.


Due to use its operating system in our computational park, blocking our 
access is causing problems for upgrade of ports.


This problem affecting the implementation of new projects, I ask please 
urgency in resolving this problem,


Thank you,
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Re: Optimal Apache22 configuration

2007-11-22 Thread Tom Evans
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 19:49 +0100, Marcio Cicero wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Tomorrow i'll start configuring an apache22 server at work and I've been 
 searching what's the best configuration for apache22 on apache.
 
 Is it possible to use kqueue() support for apache22? Also, the best threading 
 library around for apache22 on freebsd is libthr?
 
 The best mpm for this kind of environment is still worker?
 
 Is there any updated documentation on this matter?
 
 Thanks in advance. 
 Regards,
 Marcio
 

We use a pair of apache22 webservers in a round robin configuration at
work, doing proxying to app servers and serving static content for all
our websites, and they run very nicely indeed under the event MPM. This
is still marked as 'experimental' as apache, but the reason is that it
doesn't support accept filters or SSL yet (support is planned). If you
need SSL, I'd go for worker. If you need PHP, I'd go for prefork :)

We wanted a pair for redundancy and failover support, and we were unsure
one server could handle the load, but load tends to hover at about 0.1
on both boxes, and they tend to 'just work', which is nice :)

We use libthr, which works perfectly (as you would expect, lots of
apache devs run and recommend FreeBSD).

Cheers

Tom




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DOH! ata_alloc_composite failed!

2007-11-22 Thread Jan Catrysse
Dear subscribers,

I am currently running a production server:
FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE
Onboard Intel ICH8R Raid 1 with 2x SATA300 500GB HDD
Using ATA for Raid1

In my today's /var/log/messages I found:
Nov 22 03:01:33 www kernel: DOH! ata_alloc_composite failed!
Nov 22 03:01:33 www last message repeated 28 times

I've seen several topics on similar problems but without resolution.
Other users have seen the problem when there is heavy I/O, the UID check
done by one of the Periodic/Security scripts has been mentioned. Not
impossible because the error occurs around 03:00 hours, when
Periodic/Daily is ran.

Someone has a clew on what this could be?
Should I be worrying for my data?
How can I do some more diagnostics without putting the server down (if
possible)?
Please see my next post / question on Raid Synchronisation / Data
Consistency.

Kind regards,
Jan Catrysse
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RAID1 synchronisation - howto OR not necessary?

2007-11-22 Thread Jan Catrysse
Dear subscribers,

I am currently running a production server:
FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE
Onboard Intel ICH8R Raid 1 with 2x SATA300 500GB HDD
Using ATA for Raid1

On Windows systems it is an absolute must to do a Raid Synchronisation
every once and a while to maintain data consistency.

I am some what disturbed that that kind of command / tool seems not
available on FreeBSD.

Are there other methods to do the synchronisation?
1) Maybe atacontrol detach  atacontrol addspare  atacontrol rebuild?
2) Maybe data consistency is always maintained automatically by the
driver?
3) Maybe I have to panic and urgently make backups?

Kind regards,
Jan Catrysse
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+bfe0: watchdog timeout -- resetting

2007-11-22 Thread Jan Catrysse
Dear subscribers,

I am currently running a production gateway:
FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE
Onboard Broadcom BCM4401 Fast Ethernet (bfe0)
3 x PCI intel Gigabit Lan (em0, em1, em2)

This machine is my firewall/gateway running PF.

In my /var/log/messages I found:
Nov 20 10:22:42 techdesk kernel: bfe0: watchdog timeout -- resetting
Nov 20 10:22:42 techdesk kernel: bfe0: link state changed to DOWN
Nov 20 10:22:44 techdesk kernel: bfe0: link state changed to UP

It seems to happen every day or two and from time to time twice a day.

The bfe0 is my external interface connected to the internet (6Mb/s).

I don't have any free PCI slots to put in another card for testing;
furthermore I don't really like putting down the server for too long
either.

The system is mainly running:
pf (no queuing / no balancing / no red / ... )
isc-dhcpd (a small number of internal requests)
named (a small number of internal requests)
ftp-proxy
pftpx

I don't think the external connection has to suffer from heavy loads, it
only accepts 6Mb/s max. Behind the gateway the only heavy incoming
traffic is for the FTP server. Only a bunch of simultaneous connections
but at high speed...

To be frank the CPU and Memory are idle most of the time ;-) .

Someone has a clew on what this could be or how to do further
diagnostics?

Kind regards,
Jan Catrysse
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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 11:44:49 Nov 22, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 There are basically two ways the subtitles are encoded: bitmap
 and text. Both will require a full screen dump on every update.
 Neither allow for colors (there are html hacks though). AFAIK,
 there's no way to store activity in form of updates in subtitles.
 

Subtitles can be hard coded into the video with mencoder. The command
line is straight forward.

$ mencoder video.avi -sub subtitles.srt -o videosubtitles.avi -ovc lavc
-oac copy

 Moreover, even in case of bitmaps, subtitles are still utterly
 unstandardized. Their look is very player-dependent.
 

Not a problem if you hard code them.

 But the idea is cool, thanks! I might perform a few benchmarks
 with mplayer when I have time.

But your basic problem remains unsolved. mencoder can build a video from
frames and you can mux the audio with mplex or some such thing.

All this means a bit of effort.

regards,
Girish
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RE: Optimal Apache22 configuration

2007-11-22 Thread Marcio Cicero
Hi Tom,

Thanks for your input.

As far as I can remember there were experimental support for kqueue polling 
events on apache2 which I remember as nice performance improvement. But 
unfortunately I can't find any info regarding kqueue for apache22. 

Is this possible for apache22?

TIA
Regards,
Marcio
 Subject: Re: Optimal Apache22 configuration
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:39:12 +
 
 On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 19:49 +0100, Marcio Cicero wrote:
  Hello all,
  
  Tomorrow i'll start configuring an apache22 server at work and I've been 
  searching what's the best configuration for apache22 on apache.
  
  Is it possible to use kqueue() support for apache22? Also, the best 
  threading library around for apache22 on freebsd is libthr?
  
  The best mpm for this kind of environment is still worker?
  
  Is there any updated documentation on this matter?
  
  Thanks in advance. 
  Regards,
  Marcio
  
 
 We use a pair of apache22 webservers in a round robin configuration at
 work, doing proxying to app servers and serving static content for all
 our websites, and they run very nicely indeed under the event MPM. This
 is still marked as 'experimental' as apache, but the reason is that it
 doesn't support accept filters or SSL yet (support is planned). If you
 need SSL, I'd go for worker. If you need PHP, I'd go for prefork :)
 
 We wanted a pair for redundancy and failover support, and we were unsure
 one server could handle the load, but load tends to hover at about 0.1
 on both boxes, and they tend to 'just work', which is nice :)
 
 We use libthr, which works perfectly (as you would expect, lots of
 apache devs run and recommend FreeBSD).
 
 Cheers
 
 Tom
 
 

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Re: is this IT or not/

2007-11-22 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:25:35 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:23:29PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
   On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:12:50AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:

 guys, one last thing before i call it a days; i just tried 
 kmidi and tried to configure the audio.
 got the sound of a breaking glass and the warning that something 
 was already using dev/sequencer. i tried a
 ps -alx, but couldn't tell very much..  can anybody shed a light?

It actually says could not open /dev/sequencer to get some info. 
Probably there is another program using it. where 'probably' may often
be true on Linux, but here it's proved a less than helpful hint.

   Does /dev/sequencer actually exist?
   
   I think it's looking for a deprecated device. On my 7.0-BETA2 machine,
   the sound(4) manpage only lists /dev/audio*, /dev/dsp* and /dev/sndstat.
   
   Looking at the manual pages on the FreeBSD site, there was a
   /dev/sequencer in 4.x, but not in 5.x and later.

That's about right, FreeBSD hasn't had MIDI since newpcm arrived, IIRC. 
I vaguely recall a few people missing it, but nobody offering any code.
 
   BTW, 'cat /dev/sndstat' shows you the installed sound devices.
  
   Right; I tried catting /dev/sndstat awhile ago. Didn't see much

It's all in the handbook, but check out sound|snd|pcm(4) re tuning .. 

 paqi% sysctl hw.snd
 hw.snd.targetirqrate: 32
 hw.snd.report_soft_formats: 1
 hw.snd.verbose: 2
 hw.snd.unit: 0
 hw.snd.maxautovchans: 4
 hw.snd.pcm0.buffersize: 4096
 hw.snd.pcm0.vchans: 4

With .verbose=2 you'll see plenty of info :) and you can make good use
of the vchans to stop KDE sounds and non-KDE programs (like XMMS etc) 
tripping over each other, by assigning one of /dev/dsp* to KDE, say. 

   beyong my cound card type.  Also, there is no /dev/sequencer.  
   So why Kmid would  be hunting for it is one I'll have to look
   thru the code to learn about.  It's probably trying to open the
   sequencer as a last resort.

Kmid is for playing MIDI files using the soundcard synth chip, for which
/dev/sequencer is the missing device, so it's of no use to you.  I've
used audio/timidity in the past to convert some .mid files of interest
into .wav files on the way towards making .mp3s, but I never did get it
to work to play .mid files directly.  YMMV, there are later versions ..

   This is also why lsof fails.  

Sorry, I don't see a connection with lsof?

   Hm, no src. Kmid is build from the kde3 source.  

Unless you really want to, you don't want to go there :)

   Well, I'm building kplayer which seems to be a frontt end for
   mplayer.  Maybe give me some clues why things-KDE keep breaking.

KDE, despite all the *wonderful* porting done to FreeBSD, is still very
Linux-centric in lots of its assumptions, I find.  I use plenty of KDE
but the sound system has always been a bear here.  This laptop has never
worked with ArtS so I don't bother with it, and I'll use Kmix for basic
volume adjustments, yet need to use mixer(8) to switch recording device,
and prefer using commandline scripts using sox and lame for recording. 

Which brings me to your earlier (unresolved?) question about missing
sound on playing audio CDs .. first assuming your CD drive is properly
externally wired to your soundcard(?), check the level on the 'cd'
device, in Kmix 'input' tab or if in doubt, good ol' /usr/sbin/mixer:

 paqi% mixer
 Mixer vol  is currently set to  90:90
 Mixer synthis currently set to   0:0
 Mixer pcm  is currently set to  90:90
 Mixer speaker  is currently set to  95:95
 Mixer line is currently set to   0:0
 Mixer mic  is currently set to   0:0
 Mixer cd   is currently set to  92:92
 Mixer line1is currently set to   0:0
 Recording source: mic

Good luck, Ian

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Re: Via C7 Processor (CPU) - cpufreq and make.conf support

2007-11-22 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg

On Oct 24, 2007, at 2:20 AM, Erik Cederstrand wrote:


I know this is not an answer, but why not just upgrade to 7.0 if you
need the C7 support?


I'm on 7B3, but when I look at /usr/src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,  
I just see this


# Currently the following CPU types are recognized:
#   Intel x86 architecture:
#   (AMD CPUs)  opteron athlon64 athlon-mp athlon-xp athlon-4
#   athlon-tbird athlon k8 k6-3 k6-2 k6 k5
#   (Intel CPUs)core2 core nocona pentium4m pentium4 prescott
#   pentium3m pentium3 pentium-m pentium2
#   pentiumpro pentium-mmx pentium i486 i386
#   (Via CPUs)  c3 c3-2
#   Alpha/AXP architecture: ev67 ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4
#   AMD64 architecture: opteron, athlon64, nocona, prescott, core2
#   Intel ia64 architecture: itanium2, itanium

I should note that it appears that the example make.conf is

# $FreeBSD: src/share/examples/etc/make.conf,v 1.279 2007/01/17  
12:43:06 des Exp $


But I'm using csup tracking *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7

So can someone point me to where I should look for current (well, 7)  
information on configuring for Via CPUs?


-j

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RE: Optimal Apache22 configuration

2007-11-22 Thread Tom Evans
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 14:58 +0100, Marcio Cicero wrote:
 Hi Tom,
 
 Thanks for your input.
 
 As far as I can remember there were experimental support for kqueue
 polling events on apache2 which I remember as nice performance
 improvement. But unfortunately I can't find any info regarding kqueue
 for apache22. 
 
 Is this possible for apache22?
 
 TIA
 Regards,
 Marcio
 
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  On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 19:49 +0100, Marcio Cicero wrote:
   Hello all,
   
   Tomorrow i'll start configuring an apache22 server at work and
 I've been searching what's the best configuration for apache22 on
 apache.
   
   Is it possible to use kqueue() support for apache22? Also, the
 best threading library around for apache22 on freebsd is libthr?
   
   The best mpm for this kind of environment is still worker?
   
   Is there any updated documentation on this matter?
   
   Thanks in advance. 
   Regards,
   Marcio
   
  
  We use a pair of apache22 webservers in a round robin configuration
 at
  work, doing proxying to app servers and serving static content for
 all
  our websites, and they run very nicely indeed under the event MPM.
 This
  is still marked as 'experimental' as apache, but the reason is that
 it
  doesn't support accept filters or SSL yet (support is planned). If
 you
  need SSL, I'd go for worker. If you need PHP, I'd go for prefork :)
  
  We wanted a pair for redundancy and failover support, and we were
 unsure
  one server could handle the load, but load tends to hover at about
 0.1
  on both boxes, and they tend to 'just work', which is nice :)
  
  We use libthr, which works perfectly (as you would expect, lots of
  apache devs run and recommend FreeBSD).
  
  Cheers
  
  Tom
  
  
 

Hi Marcio

(Please don't top post, it destroys the logical flow of the
conversation :)

Apache 2.2 by default uses epoll() or kqueue() if it is available.
Indeed, it is mandatory for the event MPM to work correctly. From the 
event manual page: ( http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/event.html )

The MPM assumes that the underlying apr_pollset implementation is
reasonably threadsafe. This enables the MPM to avoid excessive high
level locking, or having to wake up the listener thread in order to send
it a keep-alive socket. This is currently only compatible with KQueue
and EPoll.

The use of kqueue is actually performed by the underlying apr
implementation, but I'm sure if it is available to apr, it will use it.

Regards

Tom



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IPV6 NTP

2007-11-22 Thread takhoos

I am running FreeBSD 6.2 in a totally IPV6-only aware environment.   I want to 
set up an NTP server by pointing to an IPV6 stratum 1 address.  Can I just add 
an IPV6 address in the NTP.conf file just as I would do for an IPV4 server? 
 
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Re: lightly loaded php+mysql - high syscall/csw rates

2007-11-22 Thread Vince
Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 We have a php+mysql web server. It serves 15-20 http requests per
 second, resulting in 100-200 sql qps. But according to vmstat(1),
 it all peaks at over 500k syscall/s and 100k cswitch/s. The peaks
 are quite frequent, even at this load. During the peaks top(1)
 shows 30-40k VCSW for mysql and around 1k vcsw for two php-cgi
 worker processes. IVCSW is relatively very low for all processes.
 
 This is a 4-core Opteron HP DL145 G2 server running 6.2/amd64
 generic+quota. I'm considering a switch to 7.0.
 
 During peaks user/system/idle in top(1) is 20/30/50.
 
 The question is - is the syscall and csw rates normal or should I
 be trying to tune mysql and php more agressively? I'm not hungry
 for performance (haven't hit the limit yet), but a couple of days
 ago the server stopped responding until a cold reboot (which is
 another story) - and now I'm paying closer attention to its
 vitals.
This sounds like it could be related to the issues being discussed on a
thread on freebsd-stable titled 2 x quad-core system is slower that 2 x
dual core on FreeBSD
[http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mailindex.cgi?sort=subjectfile=current/freebsd-stable]


Switching to 7 and SCHED_ULE may gain you perfromance for this kind of
workload over 4 cores going by the benchmarks provided by Kris Kennaway,
although they mainly deal with 8 core systems. Forcing MySQL to use
libthr instead of libpthread in libmap.conf may also help also and going
solely by one post in the thread mentioned above you could try reducing
kern.hz in loader.conf to something like 100 as this could help reduce
the context switches.



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Re: lightly loaded php+mysql - high syscall/csw rates

2007-11-22 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 02:52:06PM +, Vince wrote:
 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
  We have a php+mysql web server. It serves 15-20 http requests per
  second, resulting in 100-200 sql qps. But according to vmstat(1),
  it all peaks at over 500k syscall/s and 100k cswitch/s. The peaks
  are quite frequent, even at this load. During the peaks top(1)
  shows 30-40k VCSW for mysql and around 1k vcsw for two php-cgi
  worker processes. IVCSW is relatively very low for all processes.
  
  This is a 4-core Opteron HP DL145 G2 server running 6.2/amd64
  generic+quota. I'm considering a switch to 7.0.
  
  During peaks user/system/idle in top(1) is 20/30/50.
  
  The question is - is the syscall and csw rates normal or should I
  be trying to tune mysql and php more agressively? I'm not hungry
  for performance (haven't hit the limit yet), but a couple of days
  ago the server stopped responding until a cold reboot (which is
  another story) - and now I'm paying closer attention to its
  vitals.
 This sounds like it could be related to the issues being discussed on a
 thread on freebsd-stable titled 2 x quad-core system is slower that 2 x
 dual core on FreeBSD
 [http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mailindex.cgi?sort=subjectfile=current/freebsd-stable]

Yeah, I'm following that thread, I just wanted to know if anyone
else gets 500k+ syscalls per second on an php+mysql web server
at 20 pages per second.
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SMBus is there, now what? (fan speed problem)

2007-11-22 Thread Olivier Drouin
Hello Guys

 

I tried this thread without much success on the freebsd-acpi mail list: 

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-acpi/2007-November/004229.html

Anyway, I don’t think the problem is related to Acpi now.

 

I read this:

HYPERLINK
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-i386.htmlhttp://www.freebsd.
org/releases/6.2R/hardware-i386.html

 

Here is the board/chassis I’m using: 

HYPERLINK
http://www.intel.com/design/servers/boards/se7230nh1-e/index.htmhttp://www
.intel.com/design/servers/boards/se7230nh1-e/index.htm

 

I rebuilt a kernel with the following new devices:

device intpm

device ichsmb

device smbus

device intpm

device iic

device iicbus

device iicbb

device intpm

device smb

 

I assume its way too many but I don’t even know which does what.

 Anyway with this setup I can see /dev/smb0.

Here is the output of some of the utilities:

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# healthd -d -S



* Hardware Information *



Unknown Vendor: ID = 7F7F



 

Temp.=  0.0, -127.0, -127.0; Rot.=  927,0, 2896

 Vcore = 0.00, 0.00; Volt. = 0.00, 0.00,  0.00,   0.00,  0.00

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# lmmon

IOCTL: Device not configured

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# lmmon -i

 

Motherboard Temp   Voltages

 

 255C / 491F / 528KVcore1:   +3.984V

   Vcore2:   +3.984V

Fan Speeds + 3.3V:   +3.984V

   + 5.0V:   +6.654V

1:0 rpm+12.0V:  +15.938V

2:0 rpm-12.0V:  -15.938V

3:0 rpm- 5.0V:   -6.654V

 

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# dmesg

...

acpi0: INTEL 04DT044 on motherboard

acpi0: Power Button (fixed)

Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000

acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0

cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0

acpi_perf0: ACPI CPU Frequency Control on cpu0

acpi_perf0: failed in PERF_STATUS attach

device_attach: acpi_perf0 attach returned 6

acpi_perf0: ACPI CPU Frequency Control on cpu0

acpi_perf0: failed in PERF_STATUS attach

device_attach: acpi_perf0 attach returned 6

acpi_button0: Sleep Button on acpi0

...

ichsmb0: SMBus controller port 0x3000-0x301f irq 19 at device 31.3 on pci0

ichsmb0: [GIANT-LOCKED]

smbus0: System Management Bus on ichsmb0

smb0: SMBus generic I/O on smbus0

atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0

atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0

kbd0 at atkbd0

...

 

 

 

# pciconf –lv

...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:31:3:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x346a8086 chip=0x27da8086
rev=0x01 hdr=0x00

vendor   = 'Intel Corporation'

device   = '82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller'

class= serial bus

subclass = SMBus

...

 

 

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# chm

ioctl: Device not configured



IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

IOCTL: Device not configured

Motherboard Temperature: 191 ° C

CPU_0 Temperature: 191 ° C

CPU_1 Temperature: 191 ° C

IOCTL: Device not configured

VCore:   2.98438 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

Vit: 2.98438 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

Vio: 2.98438 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

+5V: 4.98391 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

+12V:11.9375 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

-12V:-11.9375 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

-5V: -4.98391 V

IOCTL: Device not configured

Fan 1: 883 rpm

IOCTL: Device not configured

Fan 2: 1767 rpm

IOCTL: Device not configured

Fan 3: 3534 rpm



 

 

 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# chm -I

Using ISA Method.



Motherboard Temperature: 255 ° C

CPU_0 Temperature: 0 ° C

CPU_1 Temperature: 0 ° C

VCore:   3.98438 V

Vit: 3.98438 V

Vio: 3.98438 V

+5V: 6.65391 V

+12V:15.9375 V

-12V:-15.9375 V

-5V: -6.65391 V

Fan 1: Not Available

Fan 2: Not Available

Fan 3: Not Available

 

 

What should I try next ?

 

Oli


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Re: can you help about this script

2007-11-22 Thread ann kok
Hi Giorgos

Thank you

But my output is from your suggstion 
printf Created: %s\n, system(date +%Y%m%d);

20071122
Created: 0
20071122
Updated: 0

how can I have output as

Created: 20071122
Updated: 20071122

In additon,

ls it possible to have loop output also?

I need to have

print File No:, CMA001 

the second record is CMA002 and then CMA003 for the
3rd record

awk -f program.awk record.txt

Thank you again






--- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 2007-11-21 12:26, ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi all
  how command date, hostname run in awk program?
 
  awk -F program.awk file.txt
 
 You don't use backticks...  These are a feature of
 the shell, and
 running a script through progname.awk is no longer a
 shell session.
 
 Try system(date) in your awk(1) script:
 
  program.awk
 
   BEGIN { RS = \n ; FS = | }
 
   {
 print Name:, $9
 print Created: `date`   
 print from: `hostname`
 print 
   }
 
 
 BEGIN {
 RS =\n;
 FS = |;
 }
 
 {
 printf Name:%s\n, $9;
 printf Created: %s\n,
 system(date);
 printf From:%s\n,
 system(hostname);
 }
 
 Running system(hostname) once for each file may be
 horribly
 inefficient, though.  If I were you, I'd write this
 as a *shell* script,
 which runs hostname once, stashes the result away
 in a variable, and
 reuses it all the time.
 
 Running date may be a bit less efficient than
 something like
 gettimeofday().  Perl has a gettimeofday() function
 in the Time::HiRes
 module, so it may be worth investigating if that may
 speed things up a
 bit more.
 
 A completely untested first try to do something like
 this is ...
 
 #!/usr/bin/perl -w
 
 use strict;
 
 use POSIX qw(strftime);
 use Time::HiRes qw(gettimeofday);
 
 my $hostname = `hostname`;
 my $line;
 while (defined($line = STDIN)) {
 chomp $line;
 my @fields = split /|/, $line;
 if ($#fields = 0) {
 my ($seconds, $microseconds)
 = gettimeofday();
 printf Name:%s\n,
 $fields[8];
 printf Created: %s\n,
 strftime(%Y-%m-%d
 %H:%M:%S, gmtime($seconds));
 printf From:%s\n,
 $hostname;
 }
 }
 
 

--- Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 2007-11-21 12:26, ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi all
  how command date, hostname run in awk program?
 
  awk -F program.awk file.txt
 
 You don't use backticks...  These are a feature of
 the shell, and
 running a script through progname.awk is no longer a
 shell session.
 
 Try system(date) in your awk(1) script:
 
  program.awk
 
   BEGIN { RS = \n ; FS = | }
 
   {
 print Name:, $9
 print Created: `date`   
 print from: `hostname`
 print 
   }
 
 
 BEGIN {
 RS =\n;
 FS = |;
 }
 
 {
 printf Name:%s\n, $9;
 printf Created: %s\n,
 system(date);
 printf From:%s\n,
 system(hostname);
 }
 
 Running system(hostname) once for each file may be
 horribly
 inefficient, though.  If I were you, I'd write this
 as a *shell* script,
 which runs hostname once, stashes the result away
 in a variable, and
 reuses it all the time.
 
 Running date may be a bit less efficient than
 something like
 gettimeofday().  Perl has a gettimeofday() function
 in the Time::HiRes
 module, so it may be worth investigating if that may
 speed things up a
 bit more.
 
 A completely untested first try to do something like
 this is ...
 
 #!/usr/bin/perl -w
 
 use strict;
 
 use POSIX qw(strftime);
 use Time::HiRes qw(gettimeofday);
 
 my $hostname = `hostname`;
 my $line;
 while (defined($line = STDIN)) {
 chomp $line;
 my @fields = split /|/, $line;
 if ($#fields = 0) {
 my ($seconds, $microseconds)
 = gettimeofday();
 printf Name:%s\n,
 $fields[8];
 printf Created: %s\n,
 strftime(%Y-%m-%d
 %H:%M:%S, gmtime($seconds));
 printf From:%s\n,
 $hostname;
 }
 }
 
 



  

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Re: (no subject)

2007-11-22 Thread अनुज
Tushar kumar if you want to learn how to install FreeBSD6 + Linux+ M$
Windowz,  Apple Mac OS, solaris9  , I can teach you for free.  Assembling a
laptop ? Sorry.

Anugunj 'anuj'
http://polarhome.com:793/~anujhere/


On Nov 23, 2007 12:51 AM, nawcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hm.. from what I understand, tusar kumar wants to know how to assemble a
 laptop? like build one from scratch? if it has to do with hardware
 assembly, there's always ASUS barebones one can buy, or you can go the
 mini-itx route (http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/itx-laptop/?p) which i
 don't really consider it a real laptop. If it has to do with just
 installing FreeBSD on your laptop, well, there's the freebsd manual.

 A video on how to do it? Wow. you're asking alot from a free mailing
 list. I could probably make a quick video of me installing FreeBSD 6
 onto a laptop for 3 simple payments of $9.99! (plus $12
 shipping/handling.) Let me know if you are interested.

 Now this sort of makes me think of society today. this definitely not
 true in all aspects, but some people do insist on referring to looking
 at a TV 24/7.  This seems to be quite abundant in the United States
 midwest. Which may also have to do with the obesity statistics when it
 comes to geographical location. I'm making an assumption that the one
 asking the question isn't from the US midwest though.

 I had a HOWTO set up years ago before X compositing was available and
 3ddesktop was really the only 3d thing out. I remember at least 8 emails
 from people reading the HOWTO and then asking for a live video
 presentation on howto install it. Am I just being mean by not providing
 a video HOWTO? Reminds me of those annoying projects I had to do in high
 school where you have to make an instructional video on howto tie a shoe
 or howto clean up cat shit.
 In all honesty, I haven't slept in 36 hours. So please pardon me if this
 response is at all offensive, or a waste of time. I don't even
 understand what I'm typing right now.
 I think I should lay down.
 -nawcom
 ---
 Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Wednesday 21 November 2007, Gerard wrote:
 
  On November 21, 2007 at 07:11AM Mario Lobo wrote:
 
  On Wednesday 21 November 2007, tusar kumar wrote:
 
  hi
 i want to know how can i assembly laptop. i want a video copy
 
  Ahahahahah !
 
  Sorry guys. That was really funny !
 
  You did notice his email address I assume.
 
 
  I know, I know.. I saw it.
  I presume he meant I would like to know how to install FreeBSD on a
 laptop.
  Do you have a how-to video?
 
  I wasn't making fun OF him but the possibility that he really meant
  assemble
  a laptop sounded funny, to me at least.
 
 

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How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread David Benfell
Hello all,

I don't know what the story is, but Java is locking up my
system badly.  Even if I knew how to get details, I wouldn't
be able to because the system is completely unresponsive.

As a workaround, I have gone into /usr/ports/distfiles and
renamed the jdk* files to names with DO-NOT-INSTALL in
capital letters and linked the original filenames to /dev/null.

I do not want java installing again on this system ever under
any circumstances.

With java, at least, I believe I have to download the files by
hand if there is ever an update.  But what if I identify other
ports that are causing me problems?

Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.  Is there
a workaround for apache-ant?

Thanks!

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Re: can you help about this script

2007-11-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-11-22 10:10, ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Giorgos

 Thank you

 But my output is from your suggstion
 printf Created: %s\n, system(date +%Y%m%d);

 20071122
 Created: 0
 20071122
 Updated: 0

 how can I have output as

 Created: 20071122
 Updated: 20071122

You'll have to use the gsub() to strip newlines from the output of
date...

 In additon,

 ls it possible to have loop output also?

 I need to have

 print File No:, CMA001

 the second record is CMA002 and then CMA003 for the
 3rd record

Sure.  One way to do this is to print a formatted version of the special
NR variable of awk (NR == number of records read so far):

$ ( echo foo ; echo bar ) | awk '{ printf %03d %s\n, NR, $0; }'
001 foo
002 bar
$

If you are going to do any amount of *serious* awk programming, I
recommend the following book:

Dale Dougherty, Arnold Robbins.  Sed  Awk.  O'Reilly 
Associates.  2nd edition (March 1997)

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/sed2/

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mysql ports

2007-11-22 Thread jekillen

Hello;
I have installed mysql51-client,  mysql51-server, and  mysql51-scripts.
I looked for pkg_message in mysql51-scripts but there is none.
Where do I get info on what this port has and what it does?
Thank you for info
Jeff K

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Re: can you help about this script

2007-11-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-11-21 12:26, ann kok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all
 how command date, hostname run in awk program?

 awk -F program.awk file.txt

You don't use backticks...  These are a feature of the shell, and
running a script through progname.awk is no longer a shell session.

Try system(date) in your awk(1) script:

 program.awk

  BEGIN { RS = \n ; FS = | }

  {
print Name:, $9
print Created: `date`   
print from: `hostname`
print 
  }


BEGIN {
RS =\n;
FS = |;
}

{
printf Name:%s\n, $9;
printf Created: %s\n, system(date);
printf From:%s\n, system(hostname);
}

Running system(hostname) once for each file may be horribly
inefficient, though.  If I were you, I'd write this as a *shell* script,
which runs hostname once, stashes the result away in a variable, and
reuses it all the time.

Running date may be a bit less efficient than something like
gettimeofday().  Perl has a gettimeofday() function in the Time::HiRes
module, so it may be worth investigating if that may speed things up a
bit more.

A completely untested first try to do something like this is ...

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;

use POSIX qw(strftime);
use Time::HiRes qw(gettimeofday);

my $hostname = `hostname`;
my $line;
while (defined($line = STDIN)) {
chomp $line;
my @fields = split /|/, $line;
if ($#fields = 0) {
my ($seconds, $microseconds) = gettimeofday();
printf Name:%s\n, $fields[8];
printf Created: %s\n,
strftime(%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S, gmtime($seconds));
printf From:%s\n, $hostname;
}
}

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Re: FreeBSD, 160GB HD, and a Bios limitation

2007-11-22 Thread alive

On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 02:27 -0700, Christoper Tucker wrote:
 Hi there
 
 I have a 600mhz PIII computer with an older BIOS that will not recognize
 my 160GB new HD that I installed for use with FreeBSD.
 
 I can install FBSD if I limit the drive to 32GB, but before I settle with
 that, is there a way I can access the entire drive ... perhabs by using a
 smaller drive to install on, then by mounting the larger drive? Or is
 there a way I can do this by booting off a floppy/CD/compactflash media?
 
 Thanks for any response!
 
 Chris
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Hi Chris,
Update your BIOS. A lot of motherboards have BIOS upgrades that add
support for larger drives.

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Re: Optimal Apache22 configuration

2007-11-22 Thread Miroslav Lachman

Marcio Cicero wrote:

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your input.

As far as I can remember there were experimental support for kqueue polling events on apache2 which I remember as nice performance improvement. But unfortunately I can't find any info regarding kqueue for apache22. 


Is this possible for apache22?


As I look in to Makefile, you can use WITH_MPM=event and Apache will use 
KQueue

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/event.html
(but I am not 100% sure, I am using prefork)

Miroslav Lachman
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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:00:48AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
 On 21:26:41 Nov 21, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
  A while ago I needed to screencast a terminal to a class of
  students in real-time. It turned out to be quite straightforward
  with screen(1) in multiuser mode.
 
 screen(1) is really cool. :)
 
  Now I want to record screencasts and allow people to watch them
  later. I'm looking at recordmydesktop, but the innefficiency
  strikes me: I'm operating in text-only environment, there's no
  need to record every frame as a flat bitmap. Whatever codec I
  choose, the files will be huge and of low quality.
 
 How about ttyrec(1) and ttyplay(1) ?

Oh, yes. I've tried ttyrec a few years ago but have completely
forgotten about it since. Thanks, it helps a lot!

  What I need is something like script(1) on steroids:
  - accurately record the complete state of my terminal window at
any given moment
  - store it as a succession of updates, each represented in a
text-based format (as opposed to pixel-based)
 
 If you want pixel based output then there are quite a few options but
 none to my taste. As you mention they all are bloated.
 
  - record timings correctly
  - allow for a method to record speech in the background
 
 This you have to do manually with sox(1). Not a big deal. A simple shell
 script can do what you want.
 
  - allow for a method to play it all back in sync
 
 This is no big deal either. If you want to create a video, then you have
 to go in for pixel based stuff. You can however do efficient compression
 and use a good codec like x264 or something.
 
  Has anyone heard about any tool which would help me achieve at
  least some of my requirements?
 
 Your idea seems good enough to create an open source tool that does
 exactly what you want.

I'm still hoping to get by with some hacks, but you might be
right. It's a pity and almost a surprise there's no widely
available text-based video codec. Maybe I just need to try my
luck on mplayer-related mailing lists.

P.S. Please don't post to questions@ and freebsd-questions@ at
the same time. It's the same list and you're just sending double
mails.
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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 02:09:10AM +0300, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 I'm still hoping to get by with some hacks, but you might be
 right. It's a pity and almost a surprise there's no widely
 available text-based video codec. Maybe I just need to try my
 luck on mplayer-related mailing lists.

I see there are at least Ogg Writ [1] which is in early
development stages and Camtasia TechSmith Screen Capture Codec
[2] which is a closed-source Windows-only thing. I hope there are
more I don't know about yet.

[1] http://wiki.xiph.org/OggWrit
[2] http://www.techsmith.com/codecs/tscc/default.asp
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Re: is this IT or not/

2007-11-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:22:37AM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:25:35 -0800 Gary Kline wrote:
   On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:23:29PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 12:12:50AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:

[[ ... ]]

 It actually says could not open /dev/sequencer to get some info. 
 Probably there is another program using it. where 'probably' may often
 be true on Linux, but here it's proved a less than helpful hint.


Really!

 
Does /dev/sequencer actually exist?

I think it's looking for a deprecated device. On my 7.0-BETA2 machine,
the sound(4) manpage only lists /dev/audio*, /dev/dsp* and /dev/sndstat.

Looking at the manual pages on the FreeBSD site, there was a
/dev/sequencer in 4.x, but not in 5.x and later.
 
 That's about right, FreeBSD hasn't had MIDI since newpcm arrived, IIRC. 
 I vaguely recall a few people missing it, but nobody offering any code.


So is MIDI just passe?  What files I have are from the late
90's.  In human terms that is relatively recent; it tech terms
the 1990's were centuries ago.


  
BTW, 'cat /dev/sndstat' shows you the installed sound devices.
   
  Right; I tried catting /dev/sndstat awhile ago. Didn't see much
 
 It's all in the handbook, but check out sound|snd|pcm(4) re tuning .. 
 
  paqi% sysctl hw.snd
  hw.snd.targetirqrate: 32
  hw.snd.report_soft_formats: 1
  hw.snd.verbose: 2
  hw.snd.unit: 0
  hw.snd.maxautovchans: 4
  hw.snd.pcm0.buffersize: 4096
  hw.snd.pcm0.vchans: 4
 
 With .verbose=2 you'll see plenty of info :) and you can make good use
 of the vchans to stop KDE sounds and non-KDE programs (like XMMS etc) 
 tripping over each other, by assigning one of /dev/dsp* to KDE, say. 


This will be a *major* help, thanks!


 Kmid is for playing MIDI files using the soundcard synth chip, for which
 /dev/sequencer is the missing device, so it's of no use to you.  I've
 used audio/timidity in the past to convert some .mid files of interest
 into .wav files on the way towards making .mp3s, but I never did get it
 to work to play .mid files directly.  YMMV, there are later versions ..
 
  This is also why lsof fails.  
 
 Sorry, I don't see a connection with lsof?

---It was someone's guess; and to be fair, lsof has helped 
previously.   A chap from kde-freebsd clued me in somewhat 
about Kmid.   I spent several hours getting amaroK to work,
but don't see how the two programs interface.  amaroK doesn't
understand *.mid files.  ((?))


 
  Hm, no src. Kmid is build from the kde3 source.  
 
 Unless you really want to, you don't want to go there :)

Um, yeah! LOL.  Atleast not till kde7 :-)

 
 KDE, despite all the *wonderful* porting done to FreeBSD, is still very
 Linux-centric in lots of its assumptions, I find.  I use plenty of KDE
 but the sound system has always been a bear here.  This laptop has never
 worked with ArtS so I don't bother with it, and I'll use Kmix for basic
 volume adjustments, yet need to use mixer(8) to switch recording device,
 and prefer using commandline scripts using sox and lame for recording. 
 
 Which brings me to your earlier (unresolved?) question about missing
 sound on playing audio CDs .. first assuming your CD drive is properly
 externally wired to your soundcard(?), check the level on the 'cd'
 device, in Kmix 'input' tab or if in doubt, good ol' /usr/sbin/mixer:
 
  paqi% mixer
  Mixer vol  is currently set to  90:90
  Mixer synthis currently set to   0:0
  Mixer pcm  is currently set to  90:90
  Mixer speaker  is currently set to  95:95
  Mixer line is currently set to   0:0
  Mixer mic  is currently set to   0:0
  Mixer cd   is currently set to  92:92
  Mixer line1is currently set to   0:0
  Recording source: mic
 


I did have a vfs. entry in the wong file; that has seemed to
make a big difference.  On my Ubuntu server most of these 
utilities Just-Work.  I would like to burn CD's and maybe a
DvD or two.   But k3b seems way too far.  Do you--or anyone 
else on-List--know if the gnome burner (*Baker) works out of
the box?   ---I realize that our speciality is as-servers.
With stability.  But since I'm building a new main machine 
that is not my DNS/web/server, I'd rather stick with FBSD.

Nutshell: as many audio/video suites as possible.

gary


 Good luck, Ian
 

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Re: Questions on behaviour of fetch(3) regarding HTTPS + proxy

2007-11-22 Thread Bill Moran
RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:27:48 -0500
 Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   The systems
  in question have no way to connect without using the proxy, and I'd
  like to convince fetch(3) to use the proxy for https as well. 
 
 curl  wget work, if it's any help

Unfortunately, we're working with htmldoc, which seems to behave as
fetch does.  htmldoc doesn't seem to have any way to use external
libraries.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: efficient terminal/console screencasting

2007-11-22 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 02:09:11 Nov 23, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
 
 I'm still hoping to get by with some hacks, but you might be
 right. It's a pity and almost a surprise there's no widely
 available text-based video codec. Maybe I just need to try my
 luck on mplayer-related mailing lists.

Best of luck!

 P.S. Please don't post to questions@ and freebsd-questions@ at
 the same time. It's the same list and you're just sending double
 mails.

Many thanks for pointing out.

Fixed the bug in my homebrew mailing system. mutt had two entries in
the subscribe line.

regards,
Girish
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Re: firewall is blocking our access

2007-11-22 Thread Bill Moran
Rodrigo Moura Bittencourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Gentlemen,
 
 We INPE / CPTEC an institution of meteorology government of Brazil, we 
 are having trouble accessing the servers of FreeBSD, we believe that 
 your firewall is blocking our access.

While this is possible, I find it unlikely.

What evidence do you have to show that it's a firewall blocking
communication?  Furthermore, what evidence do you have to show that it's
a firewall under the control of the FreeBSD project.

I (and I'm sure others on this list) will be happy to help, but you're
going to have to provide more details of the problem.  What, exactly,
are you trying to do, and how, exactly, is it failing.  Please provide
exact commands and responses (error messages).

Additionally, the output of traceroute www.freebsd.org from the
problematic server would be helpful.

I've removed various emails from the return message, as there's no reason
to spam them with troubleshooting on the questions mailing list.

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How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread Robert Huff

David Benfell writes:

  Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
  it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.

man pkg_info, paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options.

  Is there a workaround for apache-ant?

If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of
an option - the anxwer is probably No..
You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative
opinion.



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Re: Questions on behaviour of fetch(3) regarding HTTPS + proxy

2007-11-22 Thread Bill Moran
Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 22/11/2007 2:27 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
  It seems that if I set HTTP_PROXY, fetch(1) works just dandy, _UNLESS_
  I'm trying to fetch an https document, in which case it seems to
  ignore HTTP_PROXY.
 
  From memory:
 
  export HTTPS_PROXY=http://myproxy:8080;

That doesn't do anything, as far as I can tell.

I did some digging into the code, and it seems as if this is not supported
at all by libfetch.  It also seems as if htmldoc isn't using libfetch but
simply follows the same logic, so the question becomes moot for me.

Thanks for the input.

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Re: top posting (off-topic)

2007-11-22 Thread David Benfell
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:22:50 +1300, Brent Jones wrote:
 Sorry if this is a bit off topic for this list, but it seem to be a
 comment that comes up very regularly; please don't top post...
 
 I for one prefer top posting

This has been hashed out on so many technically-oriented lists, that
it almost appears as a troll.

A friend of mine manages, if I recall correctly, to answer this in a
signature block, pointing to a logical discontinuity inherent in placing
an answer prior to the question.

But it gets worse, when some, particularly newbies, reply to a post in
order to start a completely new topic.

And it gets even worse when some of us--particularly the most helpful
ones--are subscribed to numerous technical lists and should review the
context of the communication prior to responding.

So, my response, and I daresay I speak for others, is for you to get
over it.  You should review the entire context of a communication in
understanding it as well.


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Re: top posting (off-topic)

2007-11-22 Thread Paul Schmehl
Understood from that perspective, perhaps you can see why people might 
dislike top posting.


Rather, your entire response is at the top, separating itself from the 
context to which it refers.


Furthermore, it can be very confusing to understand precisely what you're 
referring to, because your response doesn't follow those parts of the post 
to which you refer.


Sometimes top posting makes it really hard to follow which parts of the 
previous posters words are being referenced.


If you think about it from the perspective of all of the readers of a 
thread, you might feel differently, however.


I can understand why you might feel that way.

--On November 23, 2007 10:22:50 AM +1300 Brent Jones 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Sorry if this is a bit off topic for this list, but it seem to be a
comment that comes up very regularly; please don't top post...

I for one prefer top posting, as usually I have read a particular thread
enough times that I like to cut to the chase and read the new input
without having to scroll down, sometimes navigating an endless nesting
of   For me, reading through top posted replies saves time and
effort.  If I happened to miss something in the conversation I can
scroll down to find it.

Anyone else feel the same?

Cheers,
Brent


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Re: top posting (off-topic)

2007-11-22 Thread Pollywog
On Thursday 22 November 2007 21:22:50 Brent Jones wrote:
 Sorry if this is a bit off topic for this list, but it seem to be a
 comment that comes up very regularly; please don't top post...

 I for one prefer top posting, as usually I have read a particular thread
 enough times that I like to cut to the chase and read the new input
 without having to scroll down, sometimes navigating an endless nesting
 of   For me, reading through top posted replies saves time and
 effort.  If I happened to miss something in the conversation I can
 scroll down to find it.

 Anyone else feel the same?

Since most people don't like top-posting, I try not to do it except 
occasionally in personal email.  I don't do it on mailing lists.
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Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread Bahman Movaqar
On 2007-11-22 Robert Huff wrote:

 
 David Benfell writes:
 
   Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
   it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.
 
   man pkg_info, paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options.
 
   Is there a workaround for apache-ant?
 
   If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of
 an option - the anxwer is probably No..
   You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative
 opinion.

# cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-X.Y.Z/+REQUIRED_BY
Where X, Y and Z are ant versions.  If the file exists, the contents
show the ports that depend on ant.  If it doesn't exist, it means that
no other port is dependant on ant.

However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java
applications.  It is quite possible that there are no applications that
depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely that if you
deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of your Java
applications anymore.

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Re: is this IT or not/

2007-11-22 Thread Bahman Movaqar
On 2007-11-21 Gary Kline wrote:

 
   guys, one last thing before i call it a days; i just tried 
   kmidi and tried to configure the audio.
   got the sound of a breaking glass and the warning that
 something was already using dev/sequencer. i tried a
   ps -alx, but couldn't tell very much..  can anybody shed a
 light?

I guess you, like me, have one of those motherboards with an on-board
sound card.  Most of these sound cards don't have a MIDI sequencer
chip.  So it's very hard, if not impossible, to play MIDI files using
those softwares that require a hardware sequencer to be available -at
least I couldn't make it work.

I have a bunch of old MIDI files which I play frequently; and to play
them I use 'timidity' (ports/audio).  That has a software sequencer
built in -no hardware required- and the output quality is good; not as
great as a hardware playback but it's good.

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Re: top posting (off-topic)

2007-11-22 Thread David Kelly

(Moved to freebsd-chat where it belongs.)

On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Brent Jones wrote:

I for one prefer top posting, as usually I have read a particular  
thread

enough times that I like to cut to the chase and read the new input
without having to scroll down, sometimes navigating an endless nesting
of 


Top posting is the worst format to use for reply. Close 2nd worst is  
the no-trim bottom post.


If new content doesn't start somewhere very close to the top then the  
sender failed to create a message worth reading. By trimming and  
inserting comments in the proper place one creates a semblance to the  
alternating back and forth of live conversation.



  For me, reading through top posted replies saves time and
effort.  If I happened to miss something in the conversation I can
scroll down to find it.


Reading from bottom up is painful. Even more painful after a couple  
of generations the added quoting and occasional wrapping get thrown in.


There is no excuse to resend the entire thread with every new  
contribution, especially when dealing with a mailing list. If you  
thought the prior messages were worth keeping then you kept them.  
Else you can go online and find them.


The sender bears some responsibility for every word sent, or re-sent.  
One should never send a message one has not fully read and proofread.  
Top-posters almost never review the bulk they send else they wouldn't  
send the unreadable junk. Or at least I'm giving benefit of doubt  
that they would not.



Anyone else feel the same?


No. Heck no.

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RE: Squid with a Net nanny type setup....

2007-11-22 Thread Murray Taylor
look at dansguardian  its in the ports and is excellent for
kid-management

mjt 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
 Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 4:34 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Squid with a Net nanny type setup
 
 Is there a big list if inappropriate websites somewhere that 
 I can build
 into squid to keep my kids out of Adult websites?
 
 If not squid is there a better Proxy to use on my FreeBSD firewall for
 that purpose?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tony
 
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Squid with a Net nanny type setup....

2007-11-22 Thread Tony
Is there a big list if inappropriate websites somewhere that I can build
into squid to keep my kids out of Adult websites?

If not squid is there a better Proxy to use on my FreeBSD firewall for
that purpose?


Thanks,

Tony

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Re: top posting (off-topic)

2007-11-22 Thread RW
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:22:50 +1300
Brent Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry if this is a bit off topic for this list, but it seem to be a
 comment that comes up very regularly; please don't top post...
 
 I for one prefer top posting, as usually I have read a particular
 thread enough times that I like to cut to the chase and read the new
 input without having to scroll down, sometimes navigating an endless
 nesting of   For me, reading through top posted replies saves time
 and effort.  If I happened to miss something in the conversation I can
 scroll down to find it.
 
 Anyone else feel the same?

No, top-posting is superficially appealing when all replies are limited
to a few words that generally end in sucks or rocks, but it doesn't
scale to complex threads. 

The point of quoting is not only to keep a record of what went
before, it's to show which aspects of previous posts are being
addressed by the reply. That sometimes requires multilevel and
interleaved quoting, which doesn't work with top-posting. And by
top-posting you make it harder for the next person to do the right
thing. 

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Re: Personalised patches in ports

2007-11-22 Thread RW
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:19:55 +
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi folks:
 
 What is the approved method of applying personalised patches to ports
 sources?
 
 A current example, which was no problem under Linux, is giving me a
 bit of a hassle under FreeBSD
 
 I use pdftotext extensively to translate pdf files to ascii text.
 Sometimes, a publicly posted PDF file has it's security option turned
 on, making pdftotext refuse to translate the file into text. 
 
 It's a simple hack on the source code to skip security checking, and
 under Linux I just patch the sources to not check for same.
 
 How can I incorporate my patch into the portupgrade system, so that an
 upgrade of Xpdf will apply my patch? If I download the bzip file,
 apply the patch, re-bzip the sources, and then try to force an
 upgrade, the checksum fails (as expected).
 
 How does one do thes properly?

It's actually much easier than in Linux, since the ports system already
has to do this. Each port has a files directory into which you can put
patches, which will get applied automatically each time you build. See
the porter's handbook for details:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/slow-patch.html

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Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread Bahman Movaqar
On 2007-11-22 David Benfell wrote:

 On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:02 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
  On 2007-11-22 Robert Huff wrote:
  
   
   David Benfell writes:
   
 Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
 it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.
   
 man pkg_info, paying attention to the 'r' and 'R'
   options.
   
 Is there a workaround for apache-ant?
   
 If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed
   because of an option - the anxwer is probably No..
 You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative
   opinion.
  
  # cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-X.Y.Z/+REQUIRED_BY
  Where X, Y and Z are ant versions.  If the file exists, the contents
  show the ports that depend on ant.  If it doesn't exist, it means
  that no other port is dependant on ant.
  
 earth% cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY
 cat: /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY: No such file or
 directory earth% 

So far so good.

  However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java
  applications.  It is quite possible that there are no applications
  that depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely
  that if you deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of
  your Java applications anymore.
  
 Given that I do not feel I can afford to have Java on the system, this
 is a sacrifice I feel is necessary.  In the process of updating ports,
 apache-ant has already been reinstalled.  I had installed kaffe when I
 removed jdk*; but apache-ant now seems to depend on diablo-jdk.

My guess is that when updating ports some Java application is also
being installed which requires build from source and as a result
installs ant.  It'd be good to check the installed applications for a
Java one.

 earth% pkg_info -r diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8
 Information for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8:
 
 Depends on:
 Dependency: xtrans-1.0.4
 Dependency: xproto-7.0.10_1
 Dependency: xextproto-7.0.2
 Dependency: javavmwrapper-2.3
 
 earth% cat /var/db/pkg/diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8/+REQUIRED_BY
 apache-ant-1.7.0_1
 earth% 

Obvious.

 At least I do not yet see java_vm (which seems to have been the
 culprit in cases where I was able to get back into the system) yet
 reappearing.
 
 When I encountered difficulty this morning, I had left both firefox
 and an ports upgrade running.  In the past, I had associated the
 problem with a java script from Blackboard at the university where I
 attend and teach, but in the situation this morning, I had not
 invoked that script.
 
 So I'm guessing that java_vm had been invoked by apache-ant which
 previously depended on jdk* rather than diablo-jdk*.
 
 I am wondering if I have any reason to believe that diablo-jdk is
 sufficiently different from jdk to avoid the problem.

No clue here.  But I guess it's not about java_vm that your system goes
blank since I'm working/developing with both diablo-jdk-1.5.0_06 and
jdk-1.6.0_01 on an average machine running 6.2-p7.

I'm not sure but I paste my javavm_wrapper configuration.  It might be
useful:
# JDK 1.6
#JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0
#JAVA_OS=native
#JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd
#JAVA_VERSION=1.6
#JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities

# JDK 1.5
JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/dialblo-jdk1.5.0
JAVA_OS=native
JAVA_VENDOR=freebsd
JAVA_VERSION=1.5
JAVAVM_OPTS=-XX:+UseThreadPriorities

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Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread Tino Engel

David Benfell schrieb:

Hello all,

I don't know what the story is, but Java is locking up my
system badly.  Even if I knew how to get details, I wouldn't
be able to because the system is completely unresponsive.

As a workaround, I have gone into /usr/ports/distfiles and
renamed the jdk* files to names with DO-NOT-INSTALL in
capital letters and linked the original filenames to /dev/null.

I do not want java installing again on this system ever under
any circumstances.

With java, at least, I believe I have to download the files by
hand if there is ever an update.  But what if I identify other
ports that are causing me problems?

Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.  Is there
a workaround for apache-ant?

Thanks!

  

A way to prevent java from installing would be to do
chmod 000 /usr/ports/java/*jre* /usr/ports/java/*jdk*

Tino
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top posting (off-topic)

2007-11-22 Thread Brent Jones
Sorry if this is a bit off topic for this list, but it seem to be a
comment that comes up very regularly; please don't top post...

I for one prefer top posting, as usually I have read a particular thread
enough times that I like to cut to the chase and read the new input
without having to scroll down, sometimes navigating an endless nesting
of   For me, reading through top posted replies saves time and
effort.  If I happened to miss something in the conversation I can
scroll down to find it.

Anyone else feel the same?

Cheers,
Brent


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creation of tap interface

2007-11-22 Thread Alain G. Fabry

Hi,

I'm setting up Qemu, have installed Ubuntu and Gentoo guests on FreeBSD host but
I would like to get the network interfaces to work also.

I get the following error however when trying to create the tap interfaces

FreeBSD# ifconfig tap create
ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument


What is the problem here?

Many thanks,

Alain
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Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread David Benfell
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:09:02 +0330, Bahman Movaqar wrote:
 On 2007-11-22 Robert Huff wrote:
 
  
  David Benfell writes:
  
Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.
  
  man pkg_info, paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options.
  
Is there a workaround for apache-ant?
  
  If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of
  an option - the anxwer is probably No..
  You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative
  opinion.
 
 # cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-X.Y.Z/+REQUIRED_BY
 Where X, Y and Z are ant versions.  If the file exists, the contents
 show the ports that depend on ant.  If it doesn't exist, it means that
 no other port is dependant on ant.
 
earth% cat /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY
cat: /var/db/pkg/apache-ant-1.7.0_1/+REQUIRED_BY: No such file or directory
earth% 

 However, keep in mind that ant is a build (make) tool for Java
 applications.  It is quite possible that there are no applications that
 depend on ant for running and at the same time it is likely that if you
 deinstall ant you won't be able to build (run?) some of your Java
 applications anymore.
 
Given that I do not feel I can afford to have Java on the system, this
is a sacrifice I feel is necessary.  In the process of updating ports,
apache-ant has already been reinstalled.  I had installed kaffe when I
removed jdk*; but apache-ant now seems to depend on diablo-jdk.

earth% pkg_info -r diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8
Information for diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8:

Depends on:
Dependency: xtrans-1.0.4
Dependency: xproto-7.0.10_1
Dependency: xextproto-7.0.2
Dependency: javavmwrapper-2.3

earth% cat /var/db/pkg/diablo-jdk-1.5.0.07.01_8/+REQUIRED_BY
apache-ant-1.7.0_1
earth% 

At least I do not yet see java_vm (which seems to have been the culprit
in cases where I was able to get back into the system) yet reappearing.

When I encountered difficulty this morning, I had left both firefox and
an ports upgrade running.  In the past, I had associated the problem with
a java script from Blackboard at the university where I attend and teach,
but in the situation this morning, I had not invoked that script.

So I'm guessing that java_vm had been invoked by apache-ant which previously
depended on jdk* rather than diablo-jdk*.

I am wondering if I have any reason to believe that diablo-jdk is
sufficiently different from jdk to avoid the problem.


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Re: is this IT or not/

2007-11-22 Thread Bahman Movaqar
On 2007-11-21 Gary Kline wrote:

 
   guys, one last thing before i call it a days; i just tried 
   kmidi and tried to configure the audio.
   got the sound of a breaking glass and the warning that
 something was already using dev/sequencer. i tried a
   ps -alx, but couldn't tell very much..  can anybody shed a
 light?

I guess you, like me, have one of those motherboards with an on-board
sound card.  Most of these sound cards don't have a MIDI sequencer
chip.  So it's very hard, if not impossible, to play MIDI files using
those softwares that require a hardware sequencer to be available -at
least I couldn't make it work.

I have a bunch of old MIDI files which I play frequently; and to play
them I use 'timidity' (ports/audio).  That has a software sequencer
built in -no hardware required- and the output quality is good; not as
great as a hardware playback but it's good.

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Re: How do I prevent a port from installing?

2007-11-22 Thread David Benfell
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:16:21 -0500, Robert Huff wrote:
 
 David Benfell writes:
 
   Also, in deinstalling jdk, I found that apache-ant relied upon
   it, but I couldn't see what depended on apache-ant.
 
   man pkg_info, paying attention to the 'r' and 'R' options.
 
   Is there a workaround for apache-ant?
 
   If it's a mandatory dependency - i.e. not installed because of
 an option - the anxwer is probably No..
   You could consult the maintainer for a more authoratative
 opinion.
 
Thanks!


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Re: RAID1 synchronisation - howto OR not necessary?

2007-11-22 Thread Bill Moran
Jan Catrysse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear subscribers,
 
 I am currently running a production server:
 FreeBSD 6.2 STABLE
 Onboard Intel ICH8R Raid 1 with 2x SATA300 500GB HDD
 Using ATA for Raid1
 
 On Windows systems it is an absolute must to do a Raid Synchronisation
 every once and a while to maintain data consistency.

Wow.  Any RAID controller with that requirement is junk.  Where did you
get the information from that you had to synchronize?  Does it say so
in the manual?  Does it actually say every once and a while or does it
give a specific schedule.

I suspect that you have wrong information ... but if your information is
correct, I'd get a refund on that RAID controller.

 I am some what disturbed that that kind of command / tool seems not
 available on FreeBSD.

There is not, because such a thing should not be necessary.

 Are there other methods to do the synchronisation?
 1) Maybe atacontrol detach  atacontrol addspare  atacontrol rebuild?
 2) Maybe data consistency is always maintained automatically by the
 driver?
 3) Maybe I have to panic and urgently make backups?

If resyncing your raid on a regular basis is truly a requirement, I'd do
#3 at least, followed by getting my money back.

-- 
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Personalised patches in ports

2007-11-22 Thread Bob

Hi folks:

What is the approved method of applying personalised patches to ports
sources?

A current example, which was no problem under Linux, is giving me a bit
of a hassle under FreeBSD

I use pdftotext extensively to translate pdf files to ascii text.
Sometimes, a publicly posted PDF file has it's security option turned
on, making pdftotext refuse to translate the file into text. 

It's a simple hack on the source code to skip security checking, and
under Linux I just patch the sources to not check for same.

How can I incorporate my patch into the portupgrade system, so that an
upgrade of Xpdf will apply my patch? If I download the bzip file, apply
the patch, re-bzip the sources, and then try to force an upgrade, the
checksum fails (as expected).

How does one do thes properly?
 
Bob


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Re: lightly loaded php+mysql - high syscall/csw rates

2007-11-22 Thread Frank Shute
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:43:25PM +0300, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:

 We have a php+mysql web server. It serves 15-20 http requests per
 second, resulting in 100-200 sql qps. But according to vmstat(1),
 it all peaks at over 500k syscall/s and 100k cswitch/s. The peaks
 are quite frequent, even at this load. During the peaks top(1)
 shows 30-40k VCSW for mysql and around 1k vcsw for two php-cgi
 worker processes. IVCSW is relatively very low for all processes.
 
 This is a 4-core Opteron HP DL145 G2 server running 6.2/amd64
 generic+quota. I'm considering a switch to 7.0.
 
 During peaks user/system/idle in top(1) is 20/30/50.
 
 The question is - is the syscall and csw rates normal or should I
 be trying to tune mysql and php more agressively? I'm not hungry
 for performance (haven't hit the limit yet), but a couple of days
 ago the server stopped responding until a cold reboot (which is
 another story) - and now I'm paying closer attention to its
 vitals.

Andrew, I don't know if you've been following stable@ but there is a
long thread there about php performance (amongst other things).

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-November/038371.html

Titled:

2 x quad-core system is slower that 2 x dual core on FreeBSD[sic]

Apologies, if it's not related to the problem you're seeing. (It's
over my head).

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Re: +bfe0: watchdog timeout -- resetting

2007-11-22 Thread Michael Hawkins
I have been receiving the same error message from my NAS box as of late.

Until last week, I was been running Freebsd6.2, and I occassionally
received the message re0: watchdog timeout.  It would happen about
once a week.  Last week, I installed freenas (which is based on
freebsd6.2), and now I receive the same error with more regularity.
My NIC is a Netgear 3a11.

I seem to be getting the error message most when attempting to
transfer a large number of files onto the server.

Any help would be welcome.  Thanks,

Cypheros
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