Re: what about BadAtom Error?
i mean that , use the command $rox ... that's ok , i can explorer my directory and file . but , i want Rox to Manager my desktop , use the command #rox -p default ,the error is still there . befer upgrade the ports (#portupgrade -arR) , the rox is worked fine ! On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/6/3 PstreeM China pstr...@gmail.com: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/6/1 PstreeM China pstr...@gmail.com: hi all: yesterday , after i upgrade my Ports, use the command #portupgrade -arR ... then , my program rox is error .. Today From Google , i haven't find any useful information .. how can i Fix it ??? thanks All !! use the command $rox -p Default , Report the Error:: ### (ROX-Filer:78077): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_x11_atom_to_xatom_for_display: assertion `atom != GDK_NONE' failed The program 'ROX-Filer' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)'. (Details: serial 246 error_code 5 request_code 20 minor_code 0) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) # Try portupgrade -fr rox Sometimes just recompiling and relinking can help; stops dependencies on stale libraries. Chris after reinstall the rox-filer , there is not help me to fix it .. thanks all the time.. Do you mean it hasn't worked, and hasn't fixed it? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
Ignore him please. because? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Alert: Know about Project Management Training
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Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
2009/6/4 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: Ignore him please. because? The FreeBSD project still uses man pages as the principle form of documentation. Texinfo is for GNU projects. Try 'info tar' on a BSD system, you'll get the man page. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
because? The FreeBSD project still uses man pages as the principle form of documentation. Texinfo is for GNU projects. Try 'info tar' on a BSD system, you'll get the man page. indeed. But i was talking about how linux looks. Forgot to read all - as usual? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: phidgets for FreeBSD?
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 14:07:53 Ghirai wrote: Is there any (native) FreeBSD supoprt for Phidgets (http://www.phidgets.com? I think you have the question backwards - it should be does Phidgets support FreeBSD and that you can answer. There seems to be linux source, how far did you get trying to compile it? -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Hello list. I am trying to clean up a system with a LOT of cruft. Is there some argument I could pass to pkg_deinstall that would result in delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z (and obviously their dependancies)? just do pkg_info |cut -f 1 -d /tmp/pkglist edit pkglist and delete lines X, Y and Z do pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` rm /tmp/pkglist ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` gives error 'no such package `cat /tmp/pkglist` installed ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_deinstall: delete all packages installed, except for X, Y and Z
ignore errors about package can't be deleted because X, Y or Z requires it. it's exactly what you want. pkg_delete `cat /tmp/pkglist` gives error 'no such package `cat /tmp/pkglist` installed for sure you used ' instead of ` ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Forgotten password
Good day am a new user of of freebsd Os and i forgot my login password, i will need an assitance on how to get it changed. Thanks Deji When God opened the windows of heaven, he asked me:” what is your wish today I said. Lord please takes special care of the person reading this message Amen! CELL NO: 08036707440 OR 234 8036707440 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Forgotten password
Good day am a new user of of freebsd Os and i forgot my login password, i will need an assitance on how to get it changed. boot, press 4 at boot loader prompt to get single user. after seeing a guestion what to run as a shell (/bin/sh as default) press enter. then /sbin/mount / /usr/bin/passwd change password then press CTRL-D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Forgotten password
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 01:32:27PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Good day am a new user of of freebsd Os and i forgot my login password, i will need an assitance on how to get it changed. boot, press 4 at boot loader prompt to get single user. after seeing a guestion what to run as a shell (/bin/sh as default) press enter. then /sbin/mount / /usr/bin/passwd Without any arguments, the password for root will probably get changed. If the user wants to change his/her personal account passwd, then: /usr/bin/passwd login change password then press CTRL-D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Forgotten password
On Thursday 04 June 2009 13:32:27 Wojciech Puchar wrote: Good day am a new user of of freebsd Os and i forgot my login password, i will need an assitance on how to get it changed. boot, press 4 at boot loader prompt to get single user. after seeing a guestion what to run as a shell (/bin/sh as default) press enter. then fsck -p /etc/rc.d/mountcritlocal start /sbin/mount / ^^^ strike that /usr/bin/passwd ^^^ won't work if /usr seperate partition and isn't mounted ^^^ will work on root user, which OP doesn't state he lost the password for. /usr/bin/passwd -l username to change for a specific user. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: presentation application (other than OpenOffice)?
El día Wednesday, November 26, 2008 a las 02:55:43PM +, Didi escribió: You might want to have a look at http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/ Works in a browser ;) any idea why S5 does not work in KDE's 3.5.x Konqueror? for example this page shows up only blank in Konqueror: http://www.unixarea.de/OpenMokoLiaHab/ while it works fine in Firefox... Thanks in advance for any hint matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Forgotten password
/sbin/mount / /usr/bin/passwd Without any arguments, the password for root will probably get changed. If the user wants to change his/her personal account passwd, then: what a sense to reboot and get single user mode to change non-root password? just log as root and then change ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can One Query an Oracle 10 Data Base under FreeBSD?
Tyson Boellstorff writes: On Tuesday 02 June 2009 17:07:57 Gary Gatten wrote: Surely there's a native Oracle SQL or ODBC client in the ports collection. Have you checked there? I believe OP is looking for assurances that the oracle 7 and 8 clients listed in ports/databases would work. If he just needs a connection and to run ANSI SQL, it would work just as fine or maybe a little better than ODBC. The problem is that some things are not supported in the 7/8 clients that he may want. In that case, he should be looking at running the linux-based clients for more direct supportability from Oracle. First, my sincere thanks to everybody who answered. I did look in ports first thing and found a bewildering array of possibilities. We are going to be querying a Pinnacle server and I suspect the suggestions to use the linux-based instant clients are going to be what we need. I presently know next to nothing useful about oracle data bases so the suggestions are much appreciated. My understanding of the project we have been asked to do is that we go to the Pinnacle server, query the data base and look for a given flag that something new is here, pull in what is new, massage some headers and then send them to another device. Only the initial retrieval uses the oracle data base, but it is not a data base we control so we get it from the Pinnacle server and we will have to speak in tones it likes.:-) Martin McCormick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
2009/6/4 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: because? The FreeBSD project still uses man pages as the principle form of documentation. Texinfo is for GNU projects. Try 'info tar' on a BSD system, you'll get the man page. indeed. But i was talking about how linux looks. Forgot to read all - as usual? As usual? Beg pardon, would you care to point out where I've done that before? I'd imagine he's also talking about the Handbook, and the fact that man pages are infinitely easier to read and get useful information out of than texinfo pages. Perhaps your emails would be easier to read if they weren't so rushed. Perhaps explain what you mean rather than copy-pasting from somewhere, or even worse, typing it WRONG from memory? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
n00b question regarding installation via serial console
Hello list, Is it possible to boot into the serial console from the installation CD, or must boot.flp be used as per http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-advanced.html ? (the machine has no floppy drive (yet) thanks -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: n00b question regarding installation via serial console
Hello list, Is it possible to boot into the serial console from the installation CD, or must boot.flp be used as per make your own CD add file boot.config containing just one line: -P to existing, make sure you it's bootable (mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot) and record refer to man boot.config ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
On Thursday 04 June 2009 08:28:08 am Chris Rees wrote: Perhaps your emails would be easier to read if they weren't so rushed. I think that's the problem. After re-reading his email, I think I can see how he meant it to refer to the state of Linux's documentation and not FreeBSD's, but I really had to go looking for that interpretation. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
xf86-video-intel-2.7.1
I'm tired of X craping it's pants. After a day or so, if I try to exit and restart X X locks up, screen garbles and the following is in Xorg.0.log shows: WW) intel(0): drmDropMaster failed: Unknown error: -1 (II) intel(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel (II) intel(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xc510a000 at 0x28851000 (II) intel(0): [drm] Closed DRM master. While the console shows http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/jimmiejaz/xcrash.jpg making it useless. If I switch to the vesa driver, will I get stuck with stupid resolution, like 1024x768, and what will I be missing out on (aside from the crashes)? Opinions please? vgap...@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x25821043 chip=0x25828086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device' class = display subclass = VGA ~xrandr Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1600 x 1600 VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 306mm x 230mm 1600x1200 65.0* 1280x1024 75.0 1280x960 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 85.0 75.0 70.1 60.0 43.5 832x62474.6 -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other, and when I am alone I am together. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?
I tried bg $$ but $$ is the current process invoked just as $! is the process of a backgrounded process started by that shell. So, can I make a shell script background itself after starting? Right now, I remind my coworkers to append the after the script name. the bg command expects a job number, not a process ID. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: n00b question regarding installation via serial console
On Thursday 04 June 2009 15:46:11 John . wrote: Hello list, Is it possible to boot into the serial console from the installation CD, or must boot.flp be used as per http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-advanced.html ? (the machine has no floppy drive (yet) It's possible - but only by making your own install CD. Check back through the list archives: Martin McCormick and I had a lengthy discussion about this a while back. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SetUID/SetGID Kernel Option
I have been asked to enable the following kernel option: SetUID/SetGID - Allow directories to inherit their owner from the parent directory. The generic kernel under FreeBSD6.3 is what we presently use on the system in question and I see no commented-out option for compilation. We see in the fstab the following: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# #Default is for no SUIDDIR. #/dev/mfid0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 #Living a bit more dangerously, we turned it back on. /dev/mfid0s1a / ufs rw,SUIDDIR 11 This looks like it may address the issue, but a test shows that it does not appear to happen. Where do I use this option? This seems to be my day for asking strange questions but I have run up against a couple of things that are not in my usual sphere of knowledge and nothing jumped out at me from documentation. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?
Martin McCormick wrote: So, can I make a shell script background itself after starting? You could run all your code in a sub-shell: #!/bin/sh ( #your script here ) or in a shell function: old_script() { #your script here } old_script $* Perhaps the second way requires less code re-factoring... Nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
cups and ghostscript recursive dependency problem
I'm getting recursive dependency problems following a recent portupgrade -a. I've deinstalled cups-base as advised in UPDATING and somehow ghostscript8 has also ended up being removed. Now when I attempt to rebuild cups-base I get recursive dependency problems. curlew:/root# cd /usr/ports/print/cups-base curlew:/usr/ports/print/cups-base# make === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcups.a - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gmake - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gs - not found ===Verifying install for gs in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8 === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on executable: gmake - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xt.pc - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: png.5 - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: libcupsimage.so.2 - not found ===Verifying install for libcupsimage.so.2 in /usr/ports/print/cups-base === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcups.a - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gmake - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gs - not found ===Verifying install for gs in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8 === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on executable: gmake - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xt.pc - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: png.5 - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: libcupsimage.so.2 - not found ===Verifying install for libcupsimage.so.2 in /usr/ports/print/cups-base === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcups.a - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gmake - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gs - not found ... this repeats many times until it changes to ... make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily unavailable *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups-base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/cups-base. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8. *** Error code 1 ... I've already run pkgdb -Ff which deleted lots of redundant dependencies on cups-base and ghostscript8 but I consistently get the recursive problem. What should I try next? -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Martin McCormick I tried bg $$ but $$ is the current process invoked just as $! is the process of a backgrounded process started by that shell. So, can I make a shell script background itself after starting? Right now, I remind my coworkers to append the after the script name. the bg command expects a job number, not a process ID. Martin, If you mean you'd like to be able to put a script that is already running into the background, then you could press CTRL-Z to suspend the process. Then running 'jobs' will list the job id. Then 'bg jobnumber' (probably 1) should put it into the background. Cheers, Barry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: n00b question regarding installation via serial console
Hi, Thanks everyone, I know what to do now :D -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SetUID/SetGID Kernel Option
Hi Martin On Thursday 04 June 2009 16:23:29 Martin McCormick wrote: I have been asked to enable the following kernel option: SetUID/SetGID - Allow directories to inherit their owner from the parent directory. The generic kernel under FreeBSD6.3 is what we presently use on the system in question and I see no commented-out option for compilation. You need to add option SUIDDIR To the kernel config. You can find a sample line in /sys/conf/NOTES We see in the fstab the following: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options DumpPass# #Default is for no SUIDDIR. #/dev/mfid0s1a/ ufs rw 1 1 #Living a bit more dangerously, we turned it back on. /dev/mfid0s1a / ufs rw,SUIDDIR 11 This looks like it may address the issue, but a test shows that it does not appear to happen. Once you've recompiled the kernel you also need to use suiddir in the mount options for any filesystem where you want file ownership to be inherited from the directory. It's described in the kernel notes and in the mount manpage as a dangerous option which opens security holes. I notice that you mention setGID as well, which under sysV-derived systems allows file to inherit group ownership from the directory. If that's what's wanted, you don't need to do anything, as the behaviour that's optional on sysV systems like Linux is the default behaviour on FreeBSD. Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
{Classmates#889-142}read it immediately
I did not ask to renew my membership in May. My account was automatically charged $39.00. I would like to cancel and would like my account credited. Thank you, Dion Innes 503-502-7856 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: {Classmates#889-142}read it immediately
In response to Dion Innes din...@comcast.net: I did not ask to renew my membership in May. My account was automatically charged $39.00. I would like to cancel and would like my account credited. Not sure who you're trying to reach, but you've failed. This address is not associated with Classmates in any way. I suggest you go to the site you had signed in to and look for contact information there. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: n00b question regarding installation via serial console
man boot.config Sure that's enough? ttys is still going to mark the ttyd0 line as off and won't present a tty/login then. no. it's set to console in installator IMHO. that's universal. I think it's more complicated than that. And what if the boot process hangs for some reason? no console output either by your solution. why? Enabling a serial console on a typical install means editing 3 files. /boot/loader.conf /boot.config /etc/ttys loader.conf needs to know the COM port speed (default 9600), and what device to output the console. by default it uses what boot already use. at least it worked for me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:23:34 +0100, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: The FreeBSD project still uses man pages as the principle form of documentation. Sorry I brought up this topic... I don't think manpages are bad, I cosider them THE BEST SOLUTION for local documentation, so I don't think your use of the word still is well placed here. It should be The FreeBSD project uses man pages [...] - not still, which reads like The FreeBSD project still uses those old fashioned man pages, but will abandon them soon in favour of a GUI-driven help system that is used via Internet. :-) As a programmer, FreeBSD's documentation - beginning with the manpages, furthermore including the FAQ and the handbook, and finally the source code as well - is the most excellent kind of documentation I've seen so far. Returning to the manpages, they cover everything: Binaries, file formats, maintenance procedures, kernel interfaces, library calls... nothing important is missing. If you have a problem with foo, you simply enter man foo to get more info about it. This is a situation you won't find in modern Linusi, and sadly, as well in modern applications on FreeBSD, mostly those that are GUI driven. Try to find manpages for some program from the KDE project. In opposite, try man mplayer or man xmms, and, there's even man opera, but no man firefox. In those cases where there's no manpage, users are usually redirected to some web forum, Wiki, or encouraged to write the documentation on their own. :-) I think Wojciech just had the same observation. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: n00b question regarding installation via serial console
On 6/4/09, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Hello list, Is it possible to boot into the serial console from the installation CD, or must boot.flp be used as per make your own CD add file boot.config containing just one line: -P to existing, make sure you it's bootable (mkisofs -b boot/cdboot -no-emul-boot) and record refer to man boot.config Sure that's enough? ttys is still going to mark the ttyd0 line as off and won't present a tty/login then. I think it's more complicated than that. And what if the boot process hangs for some reason? no console output either by your solution. Enabling a serial console on a typical install means editing 3 files. /boot/loader.conf /boot.config /etc/ttys loader.conf needs to know the COM port speed (default 9600), and what device to output the console. boot.config allows the keyboard usage via serial line (the -P probing doesn't always work, better to use -D dual) ttys enables the ttyd0 (aka COM1) port to be used to login/use the system. It's default is also 9600 Honestly, I've setup a diskless boot server (via my ALIX SBC router), and it runs the latest -RELEASE and I can launch sysinstall from the diskless machine and just work off that. The OP's intention may warrant a diskless server. I threw spinrite, memtest and freebsd all as possible options to boot off the network. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
It should be The FreeBSD project uses man pages [...] - not still, which reads like The FreeBSD project still uses those old fashioned man pages, but will abandon them soon in favour of a GUI-driven help system that is used via Internet. :-) are you sure it won't? at least i wish so, as most old fashioned software solutions are best. Returning to the manpages, putting it simply it works properly here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
2009/6/4 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: Polytropon wrote: It should be The FreeBSD project uses man pages [...] - not still, which reads like The FreeBSD project still uses those old fashioned man pages, but will abandon them soon in favour of a GUI-driven help system that is used via Internet. :-) are you sure it won't? at least i wish so, as most old fashioned software solutions are best. Returning to the manpages, putting it simply it works properly here. Er, yeah, i think man pages are the best solution too, and I apologise for appearing to look down on them. I can't *stand* info manuals, they're clunky and bloated. Also, I meant principal form, not principle. Sorry! Chris PS Does _anyone_ prefer info manuals, apart from Stallman? -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SetUID/SetGID Kernel Option
Jonathan McKeown writes: You need to add option SUIDDIR To the kernel config. You can find a sample line in /sys/conf/NOTES We see in the fstab the following: Once you've recompiled the kernel you also need to use suiddir in the mount options for any filesystem where you want file ownership to be inherited from the directory. It's described in the kernel notes and in the mount manpage as a dangerous option which opens security holes. Ah, just what we need.:-) I notice that you mention setGID as well, which under sysV-derived systems allows file to inherit group ownership from the directory. If that's what's wanted, you don't need to do anything, as the behaviour that's optional on sysV systems like Linux is the default behaviour on FreeBSD. Thank you very much. I've been using Unix for almost 20 years and have the syndrome that we get comfortable doing what we do and sometimes need to stretch a bit as there is more than enough in Unix to keep anybody busy for a lifetime. Also, thanks for helping the poster get pointed in the right direction on the serial console install. That has turned out to be extremely useful. The latest Debian Linux disk is also easy to install serially if you can type on the local keyboard long enough to type h for help, Enter, and then either rescue or install console=ttySx for 9600 or add ,38400,n81 or whatever serial parameters you need. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
I want a laptop to connect to Internet via satelitte
I have a laptop and I was looking at the ATT LaptopConnect cards. They appear to only work with Windows. I do need windows support, but I insist on FreeBSD support. I tried looking at the hardware and release notes for FreeBSD, but what do you call these devices to distinguish them from wireless ethernet? -- Steven Friedrich Lexington, KY 40509 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cups and ghostscript recursive dependency problem
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:36:56 +0100, Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: I'm getting recursive dependency problems following a recent portupgrade -a. I've deinstalled cups-base as advised in UPDATING and somehow ghostscript8 has also ended up being removed. Now when I attempt to rebuild cups-base I get recursive dependency problems. curlew:/root# cd /usr/ports/print/cups-base curlew:/usr/ports/print/cups-base# make === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcups.a - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gmake - found === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on executable: gs - not found ===Verifying install for gs in /usr/ports/print/ghostscript8 === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on executable: gmake - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xt.pc - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/xext.pc - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: png.5 - found === ghostscript8-8.64_4 depends on shared library: libcupsimage.so.2 - not found ===Verifying install for libcupsimage.so.2 in /usr/ports/print/cups-base === cups-base-1.3.10_2 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcups.a - found [...] ... this repeats many times until it changes to ... make: Max recursion level (500) exceeded.: Resource temporarily unavailable *** Error code 2 ... I've already run pkgdb -Ff which deleted lots of redundant dependencies on cups-base and ghostscript8 but I consistently get the recursive problem. What should I try next? Do you have the latest port revision of ghostscript8? We have tweaked its dependencies in the last 2-3 commits. Check that the `Makefile' in `/usr/ports/print/ghostscript8' includes: # New ports collection makefile for: ghostscript # Date created:Tue Jun 10 21:58:54 CEST 1997 # Whom:Andreas Klemm andr...@klemm.gtn.com # # $FreeBSD$ # PORTNAME= ghostscript8 PORTVERSION= 8.64 PORTREVISION= 5 ^^ If the PORTREVISION is not 5, then please update the port and try again. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can a Bourn Shell Script put itself in the background?
Just a thought, you can use the screen utility depending on what you are trying to do. For example if you want to start a job, long out of the machine completely, and then return to your job to see how it's running, you may choose to run screen. screen bash (Press Control-A then d) (Logout from shell) (Log back in) screen -r Hope this sheds some light. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
On Thursday 04 June 2009 11:20:24 am Chris Rees wrote: PS Does _anyone_ prefer info manuals, apart from Stallman? I like them *in their place*. Can you imagine how long the man page for GCC would be? IMHO, though, info pages are only tolerable within Emacs. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ISP questions
I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my ISP, Cincinnati Bell's Zoomtown. I think I talked to three or four people before I even got some of them answered. Here are some of the questions and answers: 1. What speed connections do you offer? 5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) 768kBps 2. Can you supply a static IP address? At what cost? Yes, $49.95/month for the whole Internet package 3. How many hops are there to the backbone? It depends on the site you're trying to reach. (I think they misunderstood what I meant by backbone?) 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. 5. Can you supply primary or secondary DNS for me? You need a static IP. 6. Can you provide name registration? At what cost? Talk to residential services. 7. Do you give complete access to the Internet, or do you block some ports? Cannot provide this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good resource for finding a good ISP around Cincinnati, OH? Thanks, Mark Hartkemeyer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Named ignoring forward-only zones?
For some reason, BIND 9 (FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE) isn't properly forwarding queries. A snippet of named.conf: acl clients { localnets; localhost; ::1; 10.45.12/19; }; view internal { match-clients { clients; }; zone 5.0.10.in-addr.arpa { type forward; forward only; forwarders { 10.0.5.16; }; }; }; Now, I can query the forwarder directly to get the right answer: $ dig +noall +answer -t ptr -x 10.0.5.16 @10.0.5.16 16.5.0.10.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN PTR kanga.honeypot.net. But I can't get the same from named: $ dig -t ptr -x 10.0.5.16 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 56485 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;16.5.0.10.in-addr.arpa.IN PTR ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: 10.in-addr.arpa.10800 IN SOA 10.in-addr.arpa. nobody.localhost. 42 86400 43200 604800 10800 So, why isn't named directing that query to the configured forwarder? I'm 99.9% certain this has been working recently. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Mark Hartkemeyer hartk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my ISP, Cincinnati Bell's Zoomtown. I think I talked to three or four people before I even got some of them answered. Here are some of the questions and answers: 1. What speed connections do you offer? 5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) 768kBps 2. Can you supply a static IP address? At what cost? Yes, $49.95/month for the whole Internet package 3. How many hops are there to the backbone? It depends on the site you're trying to reach. (I think they misunderstood what I meant by backbone?) 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. 5. Can you supply primary or secondary DNS for me? You need a static IP. 6. Can you provide name registration? At what cost? Talk to residential services. 7. Do you give complete access to the Internet, or do you block some ports? Cannot provide this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good resource for finding a good ISP around Cincinnati, OH? Thanks, Mark Hartkemeyer ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org 8.Q: I need to change my Reverse DNS on my Static IP for running a mail server. A: What are you talking about? That doesnt Exist. -- mmm, interesante. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
In response to Mark Hartkemeyer hartk...@gmail.com: I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my ISP, Cincinnati Bell's Zoomtown. I think I talked to three or four people before I even got some of them answered. Here are some of the questions and answers: 1. What speed connections do you offer? 5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) If they're doing 5 megabyte per second, then sign me up! 3. How many hops are there to the backbone? It depends on the site you're trying to reach. (I think they misunderstood what I meant by backbone?) I suspect you're correct, although it is possible to have multiple backbones that are different hops away. 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. 7. Do you give complete access to the Internet, or do you block some ports? Cannot provide this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today (just trumped the previous one). Reminds me of when I was trying to pay my student loan back, and the bank refused to tell me what the monthly payment was until I started paying it back. No, I'm not making that up or exaggerating. How do I know what to write the check for? We'll tell you. Well then tell me now. I can't divulge that information until you start making payments. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) Heh. Can they find the bathroom in the dark? I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good resource for finding a good ISP around Cincinnati, OH? I recommend hooking up with your local user's group. There's probably a LUG in Cinci somewhere, and most LUGs I know are pretty friendly to BSD folks, and there will be someone in the LUG who's already done this research. How 'bout this: http://www.clug.org/ If you meet anyone there who recognizes my name, tell them I said Hi. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I want a laptop to connect to Internet via satelitte
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 12:22:22PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: I have a laptop and I was looking at the ATT LaptopConnect cards. They appear to only work with Windows. I do need windows support, but I insist on FreeBSD support. According to http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/solutions/wireless-laptop/laptop-connect.jsp LaptopConnect cards work via GSM/EDGE networks, not via satellite. They also require something called ATT Communication Manager which is windows-only, AFAICT. In short, don't bother with these cards. Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpJIjI3U46VT.pgp Description: PGP signature
linux compatibility ports upgrade
Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. And also curious to know which linux* is better? with or without f8/f10? thank you!! TFC ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
PS Does _anyone_ prefer info manuals, apart from Stallman? I don't, it's much easier to just type man something than browsing through big document ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I want a laptop to connect to Internet via satelitte
I have a laptop and I was looking at the ATT LaptopConnect cards. They appear to only work with Windows. I do need windows support, but I insist on FreeBSD support. I tried looking at the hardware and release notes for FreeBSD, but what do you call these devices to distinguish them from wireless ethernet? -- just plug that card and look what dmesg says. Usually marketing people don't even know if it work under anything else. You have to check ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 05:20:24PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: Er, yeah, i think man pages are the best solution too, and I apologise for appearing to look down on them. I can't *stand* info manuals, they're clunky and bloated. Chris PS Does _anyone_ prefer info manuals, apart from Stallman? Well, man pages are good at formally documenting the how of use, but they often are not so helpful on the why and wherefor of use. Sometimes info manuals add a little for that. But, that is more of a content issue than a form issue. Man pages could easily be more forthcoming on the why and wherefor concepts. jerry -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:10:17 -0400 Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Mark Hartkemeyer hartk...@gmail.com: 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. Actually, I had a Comcast representative give basically the same answer. Evidently, they are trying to discourage 'social engineering'' which is probably not such a bad idea. 7. Do you give complete access to the Internet, or do you block some ports? Cannot provide this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today (just trumped the previous one). If they can run a mail http server, they are obviously not blocking ports 25 80. I would like to know how they are handling MX setting though. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) Heh. Can they find the bathroom in the dark? Now the rep should know that, especially if the caller is inquiring about a business account. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Why do so many foods come packaged in plastic? It's quite uncanny. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
PS Does _anyone_ prefer info manuals, apart from Stallman? Well, man pages are good at formally documenting the how of use, but they often are not so helpful on the why and wherefor of use. for me it's exactly for this - to know how and why to use. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't get ndis0 working
On 5/14/09, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Walter, Richard richard.wal...@hob.de wrote: Hello, I tried to activate my Acer's Aspire 5315 wireless card with FreeBSD 7.2 i386 and had no luck. What i did: 1) #prtconf -lv no...@pci0:6:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x04221468 chip=0x431114e4 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' device = 'Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card' class = network 2) i Downloaded the R112196.EXE archive from the Dell ftp server and extracted bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys 3) i copied those files to /sys/modules/if_ndis 4) # iconv -c -f utf-16 -t ascii bcmwl5.inf bcmwl5.inf.ascii 5) with ndisgen and bcmwl5.inf.ascii/bcmwl5.sys i created successful bcmwl5_sys.ko. The ndisgen wrote a message at sys file loading: This .SYS file appears to be in Windows(r) PE format 6) # cp bcmwl5_sys.ko /boot/kernel 7) # kldload bcmwl5_sys.ko kldload: cant't load bcmwl5_sys.ko # kldloat /boot/kernel/bcmwl5_sys.ko kldload: cant't load /boot/kernel/bcmwl5_sys.ko This is wrong, what is displayed on console? 8) Next try with help from http://dannyman.toldme.com/2005/01/05/freebsd-howto-ndisulate-windows-drivers # rm /boot/kernel/bcmwl5_sys.ko # rm /sys/modules/if_ndis/bcmwl5_sys.ko 9)cd /sys/modules/if_ndis # ndiscvt -i bcmwl5.inf.ascii -s bcmwl5.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h 10) # make make install Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis @ - /usr/src/sys machine - /usr/src/sys/i386/include awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/device_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/kern/bus_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/pci/pci_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/makeobjops.awk @/dev/pccard/card_if.m -h awk -f @/tools/pccarddevs2h.awk @/dev/pccard/pccarddevs : opt_usb.h awk -f @/tools/usbdevs2h.awk @/dev/usb/usbdevs -h cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../dev/if_ndis/if_ndis.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pci.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_pccard.c cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../dev/if_ndis/if_ndis_usb.c ld -d -warn-common -r -d -o if_ndis.kld if_ndis.o if_ndis_pci.o if_ndis_pccard.o if_ndis_usb.o : export_syms awk -f /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis/../../conf/kmod_syms.awk if_ndis.kld export_syms | xargs -J% objcopy % if_ndis.kld ld -Bshareable -d -warn-common -o if_ndis.ko if_ndis.kld objcopy --strip-debug if_ndis.ko install -o root -g wheel -m 555 if_ndis.ko /boot/kernel kldxref /boot/kernel 11) # kldload if_ndis # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 19 0xc040 9fab28 kernel 21 0xc0dfb000 6a45cacpi.ko 31 0xc4767000 22000linux.ko 41 0xc489c000 9000 i915.ko 51 0xc48a5000 13000drm.ko 61 0xc532c000 c000 if_ndis.ko 71 0xc5338000 16000ndis.ko 12) # ifconfig ndis0 up ifconfig: interface ndis0 does not exist I've no idea whats
Re: ISP questions
4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:15:21 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. Yes, those ports install files with the sane name/path, so they have a conflict and can't be used/unstalled together. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. I don't use portmaster but you are first to complain. Can you show the output of pkg_info -xI linux? And also curious to know which linux* is better? Hm, it a good question. ;-) The one which does what you need. But there are some security problems (seems with pango ports) which won't be resolved for Fedora Core 4 ports (since there is no new fixed packages). with or without f8/f10? thank you!! It depends on your OS version and your tasks. The default (even for 8-CURRENT so far) is linux_base-fc4 and it's infrastructure ports. I think that for FreeBSD-6.x and lower there is no other alternative. For 7.2-RELEASE (and even better, 7-STABLE) one can use -f8- base and infrastructure ports. For recent 8-CURRENT one can use -f10- ports. There is a WIP to change this to default for 8-CURRENT. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
about restarting services
hello everybody: I´m new to freeBSD, I want to know how I can restart the network services ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:15:21 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. Yes, those ports install files with the sane name/path, so they have a conflict and can't be used/unstalled together. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. I don't use portmaster but you are first to complain. Can you show the output of pkg_info -xI linux? And also curious to know which linux* is better? Hm, it a good question. ;-) The one which does what you need. But there are some security problems (seems with pango ports) which won't be resolved for Fedora Core 4 ports (since there is no new fixed packages). with or without f8/f10? thank you!! It depends on your OS version and your tasks. The default (even for 8-CURRENT so far) is linux_base-fc4 and it's infrastructure ports. I think that for FreeBSD-6.x and lower there is no other alternative. For 7.2-RELEASE (and even better, 7-STABLE) one can use -f8- base and infrastructure ports. For recent 8-CURRENT one can use -f10- ports. There is a WIP to change this to default for 8-CURRENT. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
repeating error message from ssh
Hello, I'm seeing this message repeating in my logs from ssh. I'm running a 7.2 system, no patches, with ssh installed from ports. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. Jun 4 13:08:06 ssh-server ssh: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for NetworkMachineName IN , got type A ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
It's funny, sometimes I think portmaster knows that it should upgrade linux-f8* ports and not linux-* ports but sometimes doesn't. I don't know why... TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Tsu-Fan Cheng tfch...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:15:21 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Hi, Just use portmaster to upgrade ports and found out a lot of linux-* ports are renewed. But strange to see that upgrading was interrupted by ports conflicts, such as linux-f8-tiff and linux-tiff. Yes, those ports install files with the sane name/path, so they have a conflict and can't be used/unstalled together. What I have are a whole bunch of f8 stuff, I dont understand why portmaster choose to upgrade ports that are not f8. I don't use portmaster but you are first to complain. Can you show the output of pkg_info -xI linux? And also curious to know which linux* is better? Hm, it a good question. ;-) The one which does what you need. But there are some security problems (seems with pango ports) which won't be resolved for Fedora Core 4 ports (since there is no new fixed packages). with or without f8/f10? thank you!! It depends on your OS version and your tasks. The default (even for 8-CURRENT so far) is linux_base-fc4 and it's infrastructure ports. I think that for FreeBSD-6.x and lower there is no other alternative. For 7.2-RELEASE (and even better, 7-STABLE) one can use -f8- base and infrastructure ports. For recent 8-CURRENT one can use -f10- ports. There is a WIP to change this to default for 8-CURRENT. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. Based on the answers provided, I highly doubt that the OP was speaking to an admin... Of course not, but THEY require others to not talk about used hardware and software because they fear. And they really believe it helps :) In Poland actually the hated Polish Telecom have best managed IP network. Most others are really poor and that's the important reason that Polish Telecom have really little competition. They invested millions of dollars each for hardware, but not employees. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Open_Source
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 04:06:18PM -0500, Gary Gatten wrote: Whatever happened to BeOS? http://www.haiku-os.org/ -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about restarting services
hello everybody: I´m new to freeBSD, I want to know how I can restart the network services what services? /etc/rc.d/service restart or if installed from ports /usr/local/etc/rc.d/service restart ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: repeating error message from ssh
I'm seeing this message repeating in my logs from ssh. I'm running a 7.2 system, no patches, with ssh installed from ports. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. Jun 4 13:08:06 ssh-server ssh: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for NetworkMachineName IN , got type A DNS behave strangely. ssh ask for IPv6 address, there is probably no IPv6 answer, but DNS responds with IPv4 address instead of nothing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:15:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of OK, you have a mix with FC4 and F8 ports. The best way for you is to remove all linux ports, clean /compat/linux and reinstall needed linux applications (i.e. linux-realplayer, acroread8, skype, etc.). and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. Yes, that may be a good choice for you. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
Wojciech Puchar wrote: 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. Based on the answers provided, I highly doubt that the OP was speaking to an admin... Steve smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Open_Source
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:13:43PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:35:31PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:46:15 -0500, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: Isn't there an OpenVMS somewhere? There is an open source clone in the works: http://www.freevms.net/ No idea of the state it is in. The OZONE OS [http://www.o3one.org/] uses a lot of VMS concepts. Thank you! A wounderful hint. BTW, since we're talking about vintage OSes: anyone knows of a BS2000 clone, emulator, ...? http://ts.fujitsu.com/products/bs2000/index.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS2000 I'm especially interested in an emulation of the old terminal-based BS2000 before they introduced POSIX compat in 1992 (i.e. BS2000 as of between 1986 and 1992). For other emulators of old hardware, we have the great collecton of /usr/ports/emulators/simh plus images, but nothing BS2000-ish (yet). Or do we? TIA, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
I see, can you tell me which are FC4 ports?? thanks!! TFC On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:15:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of OK, you have a mix with FC4 and F8 ports. The best way for you is to remove all linux ports, clean /compat/linux and reinstall needed linux applications (i.e. linux-realplayer, acroread8, skype, etc.). and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. Yes, that may be a good choice for you. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone Internet SP FreeBSD Committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:21:01 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: PS Does _anyone_ prefer info manuals, apart from Stallman? I don't, it's much easier to just type man something than browsing through big document As far as I know, info doesn't let you search document-wide (including all subsections, branches and crossreferences) while man documents - being ONE document - let's you do this. Furthermore, it's quite easy to turn a a manpage into a nice looking PS / PDF file for printing and archiving. zcat `man -w COMMAND` | groff -Tps -dpaper=a4 -P-pa4 -mandoc | ps2pdf - man.pdf I'm not sure you can do this with info based manuals... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: repeating error message from ssh
Dave wrote: Hello, I'm seeing this message repeating in my logs from ssh. I'm running a 7.2 system, no patches, with ssh installed from ports. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. Jun 4 13:08:06 ssh-server ssh: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for NetworkMachineName IN , got type A sshd queried the DNS for an IPv6 address but was returned an IPv4 address. Someone's DNS is misconfigured. sshd(8) is running perfectly well. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
/etc/hosts - how does that file work?? - was weird nfs issues.
iH, This all started with NFS not mounting at bootso, testing in VMs: This is a fresh/generic install of 7.2-REL no firewall em1=10.21.20.0/24 network - DHCP for ssh access client# uname -a FreeBSD client.test 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 client# cat /etc/rc.conf gateway_enable=YES hostname=client.test ifconfig_em0=inet 172.20.6.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_em0_alias0=inet 116.23.45.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_em1=DHCP nfs_client_enable=YES nfs_server_enable=NO rpcbind_enable=NO sshd_enable=YES client# ifconfig em0|grep inet inet 172.20.6.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.20.6.255 inet 116.23.45.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 116.23.45.255 client# cat /etc/hosts ::1 localhost localhost.test 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.test 172.20.6.2 client.test client 116.23.45.2 client.test client 172.20.6.1 server.test server 116.23.45.3 server.test server client# ping -c1 server PING server.test (172.20.6.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 172.20.6.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=5.811 ms --- server.test ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 5.811/5.811/5.811/0.000 ms client# ssh -vvv server OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to server.test [116.23.45.3] port 22. ^C client# ssh to 'server' always goes to 116.23.45.3 IP there is nothing on '116.23.45.3' IP '116.23.45.3/24' is a made up network for testing BUT... client# ifconfig em0|grep inet inet 172.20.6.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 172.20.6.255 inet 116.23.45.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 116.23.45.255 client# cat /etc/hosts ::1 localhost localhost.test 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.test 172.20.6.2 client.test client 116.23.45.2 client.test client 172.20.6.1 server.test server 116.23.45.4 server.test server client# ping -c1 server PING server.test (172.20.6.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 172.20.6.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.285 ms --- server.test ping statistics --- 1 packets transmitted, 1 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.285/0.285/0.285/0.000 ms client# ssh -vvv server OpenSSH_5.1p1 FreeBSD-20080901, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to server.test [172.20.6.1] port 22. debug1: Connection established. ... .. Why if the secondary entry is higher than '116.23.45.3' it always goes to 172/24 network? Why is ping using one IP, and ssh/mount_nfs/showmount using another IP from /etc/hosts? ]confused[ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: repeating error message from ssh
Hi, Thanks everyone for the information on this. I'm not running anything ipv6, i'd like to turn this off completely. The dns for my network unfortunately due to lack of computers is being provided by a 2wire gateway 2701, if anyone has any information on this thing's dhcp or dns i'd love to hear it, googling hasn't shown me how to change the internal domain name. Thanks. Dave. -Original Message- From: Matthew Seaman [mailto:m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:37 PM To: dave.meh...@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: repeating error message from ssh Dave wrote: Hello, I'm seeing this message repeating in my logs from ssh. I'm running a 7.2 system, no patches, with ssh installed from ports. Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dave. Jun 4 13:08:06 ssh-server ssh: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for NetworkMachineName IN , got type A sshd queried the DNS for an IPv6 address but was returned an IPv4 address. Someone's DNS is misconfigured. sshd(8) is running perfectly well. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Open_Source
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:31:46 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: BTW, since we're talking about vintage OSes: anyone knows of a BS2000 clone, emulator, ...? http://ts.fujitsu.com/products/bs2000/index.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS2000 I'm especially interested in an emulation of the old terminal-based BS2000 before they introduced POSIX compat in 1992 (i.e. BS2000 as of between 1986 and 1992). For other emulators of old hardware, we have the great collecton of /usr/ports/emulators/simh plus images, but nothing BS2000-ish (yet). Or do we? Maybe you're interested in hercules, which provides emulation of IBM's mainframe architecture that was the parent (with OS/360 and OS/390) of Siemens' original BS2000. Vintage operating systems, let's see what I can remember... SCP, DCP, MUTOS, SVP, VMX, PSU, WEGA, KAOS, OS/ES (once my favourite)... I'm sure no one of you knows from mind what I'm talking about. But don't mind, they don't exist anymore. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about restarting services
leonardo wrote: hello everybody: I´m new to freeBSD, I want to know how I can restart the network services If you by network services mean your network interfaces you type: /etc/rc.d/netif restart True network services, like inetd, sendmail and others, also have their scripts in the same folder. Network services you install from ports put their scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d /Morgan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl Subject: Re: ISP questions To: Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 12:56 PM 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. That's the stupidest answer I've heard today. It isn't that stupid. As many ISPs admins aren't very good, they simply fear. Yeah, most admins just get to set around and do nothing but answer questions on mailing lists. =) Being short handed, under paid and taking care of the support overflow. The time I get to tell some supposed grad student/software sales person with a sexy voice. We don't share that information makes my day. Just call me paranoid. lol Locked into contracts with software venders will make you answer Info Not Shared. Unable to make changes while you wait for a patch/fix. Your the only one who's found this problem, so we'll wait until the next version to patch this problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
Written by Mark Hartkemeyer on 06/04/09 11:23 I'm pretty new to FreeBSD and was reading part of Greg Lehey's The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. I found the section on ISPs in chapter 18 really interesting. I put some of his recommended questions to my ISP, Cincinnati Bell's Zoomtown. I think I talked to three or four people before I even got some of them answered. Here are some of the questions and answers: 1. What speed connections do you offer? 5MBps upload/5MBps download (she said bytes, but should it be bits?) 768kBps 2. Can you supply a static IP address? At what cost? Yes, $49.95/month for the whole Internet package 3. How many hops are there to the backbone? It depends on the site you're trying to reach. (I think they misunderstood what I meant by backbone?) 4. What kind of hardware and software are you running? Can't provide this, due to security reasons. 5. Can you supply primary or secondary DNS for me? You need a static IP. 6. Can you provide name registration? At what cost? Talk to residential services. 7. Do you give complete access to the Internet, or do you block some ports? Cannot provide this info, due to security reasons. After asking, I was told that I would be able to run a mail server and http server on my connection. 8. Do you have complete reverse DNS? (They didn't know.) I assume this is a pretty typical response from ISPs. Has anyone asked their ISP questions like these? If so, what kind of response did you get? Does anyone know of a really good ISP, or a good resource for finding a good ISP around Cincinnati, OH? Thanks, Mark Hartkemeyer These responses don't surprise me. I'm actually impressed your rep knew the numbers for the up/down bandwidth, even though their metric was wrong. There was a point in time when a technical support representative for an ISP was knowledgeable and courteous, but those days are forever gone and those reps have been replaced with poorly trained monkeys that are forbidden to divert from The Script. You could not get any intelligible information about the ISP's services any more than you could expect to get intelligible information about a Dell computer's north bridge controller from a Walmart Associate. This is attributable to the explosion in popularity of personal internet access, resulting in a greater need for servicing a high volume of low complexity technical support requests (e.g., my internet don't work). The reps are paid far to little to be technically competent and the ISP doesn't get a return for training them to be proficient when they can just ist them in front of a knowledge database they've already invested cash into and tell them to read what it says. You have to meander your way at least up to tier II or III support to get to anyone who might possibly be invested enough in the service to know the meaning of your questions and the answers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: linux compatibility ports upgrade
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:34:44 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: I see, can you tell me which are FC4 ports?? thanks!! Please, reread my previous email. I wrote _all_ linux ports. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Boris Samorodov b...@ipt.ru wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:15:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: Thank you, Boris. This is my linux ports,linux-f8-atk-1.20.0_1 Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-cairo-1.4.14_1 Vector graphics library Cairo (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-curl-7.18.2_1 The command line tool for transferring files with URL synta linux-f8-expat-2.0.1_1 Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library (Linux linux-f8-gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0 Image loading library for GTK+ (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-libidn-0.6.14_1 Internationalized Domain Name support library (Linux Fedora linux-f8-libxml2-2.7.2 Library providing XML and HTML support (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nspr-4.7.3 Netscape Portable Runtime (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-nss-3.12.2.0 Network Security Services (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-openssl-0.9.8b The OpenSSL toolkit (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-pango-1.18.4 The pango library (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-png-1.2.22_1 RPM of the PNG lib (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-sqlite3-3.4.2_1 The library that implements an embeddable SQL database engi linux-f8-tiff-3.8.2 The TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary (Linux Fedora 8) linux-f8-xorg-libs-7.3_3 Xorg libraries (Linux Fedora 8) linux-flashplugin-10.0r22 Adobe Flash Player NPAPI Plugin linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_9 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig linux-gtk2-2.6.10_2 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_2 A high-color icon theme shell from the FreeDesktop project linux-jpeg-6b.34_2 RPM of the JPEG lib linux-libsigc-2.0.17_1 Callback Framework for C++ (linux version) linux-mplayerplug-in-3.50_3 Embed MPlayer into browser linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System linux-openmotif-2.2.4_3 Motif toolkit Linux libraries linux-pango-1.10.2_2 Linux pango binary linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks linux-scim-gtk-fc8-1.4.7_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux binar linux-scim-libs-fc8-1.4.7_2 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, Linux bin linux_base-f8-8_11 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) linux_dri-7.0 Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of OK, you have a mix with FC4 and F8 ports. The best way for you is to remove all linux ports, clean /compat/linux and reinstall needed linux applications (i.e. linux-realplayer, acroread8, skype, etc.). and I am running 7.2-stable, looks like linux-f8* is just as good to me. Yes, that may be a good choice for you. WBR -- bsam ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cups and ghostscript recursive dependency problem
On Thursday 04 June 2009, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: Do you have the latest port revision of ghostscript8? We have tweaked its dependencies in the last 2-3 commits. Check that the `Makefile' in `/usr/ports/print/ghostscript8' includes: # New ports collection makefile for: ghostscript # Date created: Tue Jun 10 21:58:54 CEST 1997 # Whom: Andreas Klemm andr...@klemm.gtn.com # # $FreeBSD$ # PORTNAME= ghostscript8 PORTVERSION= 8.64 PORTREVISION= 5 ^^ If the PORTREVISION is not 5, then please update the port and try again. That was the cause, I had portversion 4. Updating to 5 fixed it. Thanks for the help. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /etc/hosts - how does that file work?? - was weird nfs issues.
On Thursday 04 June 2009 20:48:21 Peter wrote: iH, This all started with NFS not mounting at bootso, testing in VMs: snip Why is ping using one IP, and ssh/mount_nfs/showmount using another IP from /etc/hosts? Q: Where is described that name resolution for A or PTR records should be returned in a fixed order and that a consumer should always use the first one returned? A: Nowhere. Name servers are encouraged to do round-robin returns if not specified otherwise. Applications may sort/pick at their own leisure. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: repeating error message from ssh
On Thursday 04 June 2009 20:59:57 Dave wrote: Hi, Thanks everyone for the information on this. I'm not running anything ipv6, i'd like to turn this off completely. The dns for my network unfortunately due to lack of computers is being provided by a 2wire gateway 2701, if anyone has any information on this thing's dhcp or dns i'd love to hear it, googling hasn't shown me how to change the internal domain name. Thanks. If you know your ISP's nameservers, simply run a local resolver and tell dhclient to prepend or override the nameserver obtained from dhcp. There's quite a few how-to's on the web on this topic. Suggested local reading: man dhclient.conf man rc.conf /etc/defaults/rc.conf - named_ settings /etc/namedb/named.conf -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: repeating error message from ssh
Thanks everyone for the information on this. I'm not running anything ipv6, i'd like to turn this off completely. The dns for my network unfortunately due to lack of computers is being provided by a 2wire gateway 2701, if anyone has any information on this thing's dhcp or dns i'd love to hear it, googling hasn't shown me how to change the internal domain name. Thanks. simply ignore these messages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: repeating error message from ssh
Dave wrote: Hi, Thanks everyone for the information on this. I'm not running anything ipv6, i'd like to turn this off completely. The dns for my network unfortunately due to lack of computers is being provided by a 2wire gateway 2701, if anyone has any information on this thing's dhcp or dns i'd love to hear it, googling hasn't shown me how to change the internal domain name. Thanks. Dave. [snip] If you are talking about the server side you may take a look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config for the following: #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0 #ListenAddress :: ListenAddress 192.168.10.1 as in manually bind it particular interface(s) and comment out the wild cards. This is how I have mine and I don't get the IPv6 lookups. Could also be something else I've done and haven't realized it yet either. :-) -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
Your the only one who's found this problem, so we'll wait until the next version to patch this problem. It's just like my upstream network provider. When they have longer problems i heard Sorry we working on this, you must be really unlucky, as nobody else have problems here. I asked few their other clients then - they heard exactly the same. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cups and ghostscript recursive dependency problem
On Thursday 04 June 2009 18:27:00 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: PORTNAME= ghostscript8 PORTVERSION= 8.64 PORTREVISION= 5 ^^ \o/ Thanks for also respecting WITHOUT_CUPS since rev 3. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ISP questions
These responses don't surprise me. I'm actually impressed your rep knew the numbers for the up/down bandwidth, even though their metric was It's just marketing bandwidth as most clients don't understand what it mean anyway, but just expect higher value that others for the same price. It's at most - top limit. Actually - such speed are never achievable unless you use it at 3:00 am. Sometimes never at all. Like local cable TV, they have 6 possible prices for internet access, called from 256kbps/64kbps to 10Mbps/2Mbps, actually you rarely see any difference and it's closest to lowest offer. But people like to hear this so they hear, and at least here marketing people know perfectly what to answer about internet speed as they call it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: cups and ghostscript recursive dependency problem
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:54:04 +0200, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2009 18:27:00 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: PORTNAME= ghostscript8 PORTVERSION= 8.64 PORTREVISION= 5 ^^ \o/ Thanks for also respecting WITHOUT_CUPS since rev 3. You are welcome, of course :-) That was the main motivation behind the recent flurry of changes. pgpx8OLYIHW2Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [off-list] Re: Open_Source
On Wednesday 03 June 2009 19:26:00 Glen Barber wrote: Hi, Mel On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2009 17:12:28 madunix wrote: 3- General experience with Open Source technology? Kinda getting fed up with the amount of trolling lately and loving Sieve. This thread had me worried at first that it would turn into another wildfire... I'm happy it has not yet. Don't care about the tone. If people get angry on-topic, it's still relevant (like the hald frustration venting, Xorg 7+, etc). People should really learn to move off and semi-off broad-topic stuff to -chat or private discussions and it shouldn't need moderation, just maturity. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: about restarting services
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 09:40:16AM -0800, leonardo wrote: hello everybody: I?m new to freeBSD, I want to know how I can restart the network services Start by creating a new email and addressing it to the list rather than Reply-To another and edit it down. The two are not the same. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [off-list] Re: Open_Source
On Thursday 04 June 2009 22:05:55 Mel Flynn wrote: On Wednesday 03 June 2009 19:26:00 Glen Barber wrote: Hi, Mel On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2009 17:12:28 madunix wrote: 3- General experience with Open Source technology? Kinda getting fed up with the amount of trolling lately and loving Sieve. This thread had me worried at first that it would turn into another wildfire... I'm happy it has not yet. Don't care about the tone. If people get angry on-topic, it's still relevant (like the hald frustration venting, Xorg 7+, etc). People should really learn to move off and semi-off broad-topic stuff to -chat or private discussions and it shouldn't need moderation, just maturity. k, so reply-to-all is really reply to list. My apologies, should've stayed off list. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
Wojciech Puchar writes: Well, man pages are good at formally documenting the how of use, but they often are not so helpful on the why and wherefor of use. for me it's exactly for this - to know how and why to use. It is important to understand man is a _reference_, not a _tutorial_. It's great if you need to refresh your memory of the q flag, or check for exit codes, or check the order of parameters to the _fillintheblank() library call. But if you're trying to figure out how to do X, or even how to do X correctly using this object ... many of the pages can leave you with the feeling you're stupider than you actually are. Being a tutorial may not be what man was designed for. But until there's a designated and widely promoted text-only replacement it will be used as one. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /etc/hosts - how does that file work?? - was weird nfs issues.
On Thursday 04 June 2009 20:48:21 Peter wrote: iH, This all started with NFS not mounting at bootso, testing in VMs: snip Why is ping using one IP, and ssh/mount_nfs/showmount using another IP from /etc/hosts? Q: Where is described that name resolution for A or PTR records should be returned in a fixed order and that a consumer should always use the first one returned? A: Nowhere. Name servers are encouraged to do round-robin returns if not specified otherwise. Applications may sort/pick at their own leisure. -- Mel I do not think /etc/hosts does round robin, I always assumed first match wins...DNS/bind I would understand... Why does ping always return the 172.20.6.1 address, and ftp,nc,ssh,telnet,fetch _always_ uses the 116 address? I would assume at least sometimes it would hit the 172 address with anything besides ping - but it only ping hits the 172 address... If so, I'd guess there would be consistency between ping lookups and 'telnet/ssh/etc' lookups... Why if the 116.23.45.3 last octet is bumped up, everything _always_ returns the 172 address? client# grep server /etc/hosts 172.20.6.1 server.test server 116.23.45.5 server.test server client# telnet server Trying 172.20.6.1... telnet: connect to address 172.20.6.1: Connection refused Trying 116.23.45.5... /etc/hosts - 'server' changed to 116.23.45.3: client# telnet server Trying 116.23.45.3... telnet: connect to address 116.23.45.3: Operation timed out Trying 172.20.6.1... telnet: connect to address 172.20.6.1: Connection refused telnet: Unable to connect to remote host if server has ip116.23.45.3, it always uses the 172 address first... but ping always uses the 172... even if third entry is added into /etc/hosts - nothing ever uses it as the first/primary IP. Is there an algorithm based on IP/program being used and the returned IP? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
The quest for linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus
I have run across a couple of other ports that required the acceptance of a software agreement and the process was relatively painless, but this one makes up for all that and then some. For hours today, I have been wading through the Oracle web site trying to connect the URL http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/tech/oci/instantclient/index.html with the agreement I must accept and the ultimate purpose of this so-far futile quest, the download of the zip file has yet to happen because of the utter triumph of form over function which is the state of the art of what passes for web design these days. I am limited to lynx or safari. Nothing else is an option right now. On the Mac, safari is the only browser that truly works with the screen reader known as VoiceOver. The lynx browser while it works perfectly with text-based standard input and output falls flat when confronted with scripting languages like javascript. Oddly enough, both lynx and safari work about the same way on this site. One uses the url that make tells you to use and then things just kind of go to pot in a confused jungle of marketing verbiage and links that are mostly inappropriate to the task at hand. Once, I actually saw the agreement, screen after screen of legalese and then discovered there was no button to click and no way out except to back up to the previous screen. I certainly hope that if I ever get this installed, it is worth wasting literally half a work day due to the IT equivalent of a dialog with an utter idiot. In this case, the idiot is the web site, not a specific person. I figured at this same time a couple of days ago, we'd have it installed and be testing to see if it meets our needs. The interesting thing about all this is that there has been a thread on this list about open source software. One comment I can make is that there is simply not these kinds of hassles. Commercial sites are too busy looking goo-oo-ood! to be useful much of the time. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Wireless Woes (NDIS, WPA2)
Hi All: I'm trying to get wireless working on a laptop. It works fine as long as no encryption is used, but if I try to use either WEP or WPA2, I ueem to always wind up with Status: No Carrier Any help greatly appreciated. _- From /etc/rc.conf: ifconfig_ndis0=WPA DHCP From wpa_supplicant.conf network={ ssid=northstar psk=Passphrase here } From /var/log/messages ndis0: RangePlus Wireless Notebook Adapter mem 0x8800-0x8800 irq 5 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 ndis0: [ITHREAD] ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 NDIS: could not find file preparse.ini in linker list NDIS: and no filesystems mounted yet, aborting NdisOpenFile() NDIS: could not find file regAdd.txt in linker list NDIS: and no filesystems mounted yet, aborting NdisOpenFile() ndis0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface ndis0: Ethernet address: 00:18:39:17:28:35 And from ifconfig ndis0 scan: genesis# ifconfig ndis0 scan SSIDBSSID CHAN RATE S:N INT CAPS northstar 00:21:91:de:3f:8d1 54M -51:-96 100 EPS And finally from ifconfig ndis0: genesis# ifconfig ndiso ndis0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:18:39:17:28:35 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect status: no carrier ssid channel 1 (2412 Mhz 11b) authmode OPEN privacy OFF bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 roaming MANUAL bintval 0 IHN, Gene -- To everything there is a season, And a time to every purpose under heaven. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
time to ask for help... .
Around 18 months ago when my network was disintegrating, one Jon Horne very thoughtfully came to my rescue and stuck with me until things were reorganized and then rebuilt. The way my site is now configured, my ISP (Qwest) baby-bell has its router connected to my pfSense firewall. The firewall computer connects to my FreeBSD server which handles my DNS, mail, and web. The server then fans out to my several desktops. This one, my laptop, my daughter's MacBook, and has a spare CAT5 for my wife's PC. At a minimum, I'd like to have CVS working on at least my server. While Jon Horne had no formal bg in comp sci, the guy is a net-wizard. Problem is, that I haven't been able to reach him by chat or email for a couple weeks. Before Xmas, '07, I used ipf and/or IPFW managed to catch and kill hundreds of kiddie-scripters trying to crack in. But with pfSense and how things are *now*, I'm in the dark. So any help willl be very welcome. tia, folks, gary PS: personal plug: a slice of my book is within my ~/.sig ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
2009/6/4 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu: On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Wojciech Puchar writes: Well, man pages are good at formally documenting the how of use, but they often are not so helpful on the why and wherefor of use. for me it's exactly for this - to know how and why to use. It is important to understand man is a _reference_, not a _tutorial_. It's great if you need to refresh your memory of the Yes, I know. That is why some other additional for is also useful. I don't really propose changing man, but do often wish for some other form. Info does that a little, but still is often inadequate for some comprehension of the why and wherefor of something that I have never mucked with. I am not sure a 'tutorial' is it either because they tend to take a person through a couple of particular tasks using the item in question, but still not discuss much of the why and wherefor. jerry q flag, or check for exit codes, or check the order of parameters to the _fillintheblank() library call. But if you're trying to figure out how to do X, or even how to do X correctly using this object ... many of the pages can leave you with the feeling you're stupider than you actually are. Being a tutorial may not be what man was designed for. But until there's a designated and widely promoted text-only replacement it will be used as one. Robert Huff Info is horrible to use as a quick reference, because as Polytropon said earlier, you can't just dive in to get something specific. The info is split into (arbitrary) sections, through which you have to tread, and jump around hyperlinks all over. But then I've never really got on with lynx, either. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
openoffice.org-3 compiling issue
Hello, Newbie to FreeBSD here, however I have been studying like a madman, running it on my desktop, and administering systems on a daily basis so I've learned quiet a bit recently. I am trying to install openoffice.org-3 port, and am receiving the following error. 1 module(s): openssl need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/openssl Attention: if you build and deliver the above module(s) you may prolongue your the build issuing command build --from openssl *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3. At first I received this error, I was running -j5 with my make command, but after removing that I managed to get pass the initial error that included icu and ssl issues. All posts that look similar to the error I am having, have no replies to them. Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
It is important to understand man is a _reference_, not a _tutorial_. It's great if you need to refresh your memory of the Handbook is a tutorial. And looking at files in /bin, /sbin/ etc.. and doing man was my way of learning unix years ago. to the _fillintheblank() library call. But if you're trying to figure out how to do X, or even how to do X correctly using this object ... many of the pages can leave you with the feeling you're stupider than you actually are. man Xorg man xorg.conf what's wrong? until there's a designated and widely promoted text-only replacement text-only is important. Xorg is not part of FreeBSD, not always work, may be not wanted in many cases and finally .. there are no need for any graphics to read text ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
I am not sure a 'tutorial' is it either because they tend to take a person through a couple of particular tasks using the item in question, but still not discuss much of the why and wherefor. What's wrong in FreeBSD handbook and many different paper books available about unix? Actually not that many, but still there are available about design of unix. There is no need for FreeBSD book as long as books about unix exists, and there is FreeBSD handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The quest for linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus
Martin McCormick wrote: I have run across a couple of other ports that required the acceptance of a software agreement and the process was relatively painless, but this one makes up for all that and then some. For hours today, I have been wading through the Oracle web site trying to connect the URL http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/tech/oci/instantclient/index.html with the agreement I must accept and the ultimate purpose of this so-far futile quest, the download of the zip file has yet to happen because of the utter triumph of form over function which is the state of the art of what passes for web design these days. I am limited to lynx or safari. Nothing else is an option right now. On the Mac, safari is the only browser that truly works with the screen reader known as VoiceOver. The lynx browser while it works perfectly with text-based standard input and output falls flat when confronted with scripting languages like javascript. Oddly enough, both lynx and safari work about the same way on this site. One uses the url that make tells you to use and then things just kind of go to pot in a confused jungle of marketing verbiage and links that are mostly inappropriate to the task at hand. Once, I actually saw the agreement, screen after screen of legalese and then discovered there was no button to click and no way out except to back up to the previous screen. I certainly hope that if I ever get this installed, it is worth wasting literally half a work day due to the IT equivalent of a dialog with an utter idiot. In this case, the idiot is the web site, not a specific person. I figured at this same time a couple of days ago, we'd have it installed and be testing to see if it meets our needs. The interesting thing about all this is that there has been a thread on this list about open source software. One comment I can make is that there is simply not these kinds of hassles. Commercial sites are too busy looking goo-oo-ood! to be useful much of the time. This is one of the worst I have seen to date. Click here: http://members.verizon.net/nightrecon/instantclient-sqlplus- linux32-10.2.0.3-20061115.zip Copy to /usr/ports/distfiles/oracle/ directory. Good luck to you. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
What's wrong in FreeBSD handbook and many different paper books available about unix? Actually not that many, but still there are available about design of unix. FreeBSD is really much more than the base OS. Even though it is divided in to base and ports, it is really all of them together. port subsystem, but not ported programs. The same way as eg. Corel Draw isn't part of micro-soft windows ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The quest for linux-oracle-instantclient-sqlplus
Michael Powell wrote: Martin McCormick wrote: I have run across a couple of other ports that required the acceptance of a software agreement and the process was relatively painless, but this one makes up for all that and then some. For hours today, I have been wading through the Oracle web site trying to connect the URL http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/tech/oci/instantclient/index.html [snip] Arghh! Wordwrapping broke it as a link. Try, try, and try again. Sigh Click here: http://members.verizon.net/nightrecon/instantclient-sqlplus-linux32-10.2.0.3-20061115.zip Hope this helps. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Date representation as YY/DDD or YYYY/DDD
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 04:17:43PM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Wojciech Puchar writes: Well, man pages are good at formally documenting the how of use, but they often are not so helpful on the why and wherefor of use. for me it's exactly for this - to know how and why to use. It is important to understand man is a _reference_, not a _tutorial_. It's great if you need to refresh your memory of the Yes, I know. That is why some other additional for is also useful. I don't really propose changing man, but do often wish for some other form. Info does that a little, but still is often inadequate for some comprehension of the why and wherefor of something that I have never mucked with. I am not sure a 'tutorial' is it either because they tend to take a person through a couple of particular tasks using the item in question, but still not discuss much of the why and wherefor. jerry q flag, or check for exit codes, or check the order of parameters to the _fillintheblank() library call. But if you're trying to figure out how to do X, or even how to do X correctly using this object ... many of the pages can leave you with the feeling you're stupider than you actually are. Being a tutorial may not be what man was designed for. But until there's a designated and widely promoted text-only replacement it will be used as one. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org