Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:52:39 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. Lightweight computer and KDE apps? You must be joking. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
windose devs. Lightweight computer and KDE apps? You must be joking. :-) KDE could be considered lightweight, just it's the problem to what you compare it :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Shawn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badgershawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badgershawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barber[1]glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badger[2]shawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: [3]http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:[4]http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: [5]http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: [6]http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. Thanks for the quick responses: @Glen: I went ahead and gave it a try - to no avail. Ironically, I have never had any of the mouse/keyboard issues that people have complained about. My issue is that I just can't get X to start - it appears the drm driver is failing on me. @Francisco: I already have both hald and dbus loading in rc.conf. All of my packages have been compiled from ports. References 1. mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 2. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 3. http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 4. http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 5. http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 6. http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kern.securelevel
Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com writes: Something dawned on me. FreeBSD/Open/Net are all well secured systems. On an Internet-facing router, would applying a higher kern.securelevel provide any better, tighter, higher security if the machine was broken into? Given you need to lower the securelevel before multiuser, it is a reasonable to think raising the securelevel will give higher comfort feeling? I can't understand your last sentence. The obvious thing is that a raised securelevel only helps if it doesn't get in the way of operations you need to do. A bit less obvious is that it only helps if you are sure you will know if the system reboots. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Hi guys, I had the same problem here. Just install those ports and add them to rc.cond or rc.conf.local hal_enable=YES dbus_enable=YES regards, Francisco On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badgershawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- blog: http://sufixo.com/raw http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
s/rc.cond/rc.conf :) On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Francisco Cabrita francisco.cabr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I had the same problem here. Just install those ports and add them to rc.cond or rc.conf.local hal_enable=YES dbus_enable=YES regards, Francisco On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badgershawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. -- Glen Barber ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- blog: http://sufixo.com/raw http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita -- blog: http://sufixo.com/raw http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Hi Shawn I would first try to figure why is this error in the logs. (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard I think only errors stop the X to start. The one you show are warnings. Regards, Francisco On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Shawn Badger shawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barber[1]glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badger[2]shawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: [3]http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log: [4]http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: [5]http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: [6]http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. Thanks for the quick responses: @Glen: I went ahead and gave it a try - to no avail. Ironically, I have never had any of the mouse/keyboard issues that people have complained about. My issue is that I just can't get X to start - it appears the drm driver is failing on me. @Francisco: I already have both hald and dbus loading in rc.conf. All of my packages have been compiled from ports. References 1. mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 2. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 3. http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 4. http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 5. http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 6. http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- blog: http://sufixo.com/raw http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Francisco Cabrita wrote: Hi Shawn I would first try to figure why is this error in the logs. (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard I think only errors stop the X to start. The one you show are warnings. Regards, Francisco Thanks Francisco, I hadn't noticed this. When I use the options Option AutoAddDevices False Option AllowEmptyInput False and have hald running, I then get the following errors: (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) config/hal: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) UnloadModule: mouse (II) UnloadModule: kbd When looking at my running processes, there are 3 hal-related processes: hald-runner hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 hald-addon-storage: /dev/acd0 So now I have both dbus hald running, and I am using the two X options stated above. Am I missing something? Thanks, Shawn On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Shawn Badger [1]shawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barber[1][2]glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wro te: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badger[2][3]shawnbad...@gmail.com wro te: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: [3][4]http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:[4][5]http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: [5][6]http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: [6][7]http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. Thanks for the quick responses: @Glen: I went ahead and gave it a try - to no avail. Ironically, I have never had any of the mouse/keyboard issues that people have complained about. My issue is that I just can't get X to start - it appears the drm driver is failing on me. @Francisco: I already have both hald and dbus loading in rc.conf. All of my packages have been compiled from ports. References 1. [8]mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 2. [9]mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 3. [10]http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 4. [11]http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 5. [12]http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 6. [13]http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php ___ [14]freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org mailing list [15]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [16]freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- blog: [17]http://sufixo.com/raw [18]http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita References 1. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 2. mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 3. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 4. http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 5. http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 6. http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 7. http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php 8. mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 9. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 10. http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 11. http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 12. http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 13. http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php 14. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 15. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 16. mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org 17. http://sufixo.com/raw 18. http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Shawn Badger wrote: Francisco Cabrita wrote: Hi Shawn I would first try to figure why is this error in the logs. (EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard I think only errors stop the X to start. The one you show are warnings. Regards, Francisco Thanks Francisco, I hadn't noticed this. When I use the options Option AutoAddDevices False Option AllowEmptyInput False and have hald running, I then get the following errors: (II) config/hal: Adding input device AT Keyboard (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) config/hal: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8) (II) UnloadModule: mouse (II) UnloadModule: kbd When looking at my running processes, there are 3 hal-related processes: hald-runner hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/psm0 hald-addon-storage: /dev/acd0 oops, /usr/local/sbin/hald is also running. :) So now I have both dbus hald running, and I am using the two X options stated above. Am I missing something? Thanks, Shawn On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Shawn Badger [1]shawnbad...@gmail.com wrote: Glen Barber wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Glen Barber[1][2]glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wro te: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Shawn Badger[2][3]shawnbad...@gmail.com wro te: Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: [3][4]http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:[4][5]http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: [5][6]http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Try this: [6][7]http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php I didn't realize you had 'AutoAddDevices' in ServerLayout at first.. Still, give AllowEmptyInput off a shot. Thanks for the quick responses: @Glen: I went ahead and gave it a try - to no avail. Ironically, I have never had any of the mouse/keyboard issues that people have complained about. My issue is that I just can't get X to start - it appears the drm driver is failing on me. @Francisco: I already have both hald and dbus loading in rc.conf. All of my packages have been compiled from ports. References 1. [8]mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 2. [9]mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 3. [10]http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 4. [11]http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 5. [12]http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 6. [13]http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php ___ [14]freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org mailing list [15]http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [16]freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- blog: [17]http://sufixo.com/raw [18]http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita References 1. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 2. mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 3. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 4. http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 5. http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 6. http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 7. http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php 8. mailto:glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 9. mailto:shawnbad...@gmail.com 10. http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 11. http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c 12. http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 13. http://www.dev-urandom.com/user/xorg.php 14. mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 15. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions 16. mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org 17. http://sufixo.com/raw 18. http://www.linkedin.com/in/franciscocabrita ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 08:12:12AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:52:39 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. Lightweight computer and KDE apps? You must be joking. :-) sorry. that's the trouble with english. weight as in mass, not power. if they've got something with the Hz-horsepower that is something cheap/inexpensve, and WITH KYBD, and small screen, *if*, then if it runs freebsd, yo! i'm go for that puppy. the app the speech therapist showed me was a heavy (like 2Kg) clumsy, touchscreen dud that used some kind of M$ opsys. if i can roll my own with bsd that ought to make headlines. a few hundred bux compared to $8,000: whoa:-) gary -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?
Hi list members , I frequently update the contents of the ports tree but I have never upgraded any port. I am studying the way to do it, by following the handbook and an article on The FreeBSD Diary about the use of portupgrade. At the moment I am focuing the attention to the '/usr/ports/UPDATING' file. The question that arose is the following: is there any automated way to check if any of the port to be upgraded has specific upgrading notes written in that file ? Do you prefer doing a mass or selective upgrade ? Thanks ! dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
Gary Kline wrote: for the dedicated nerds on-list now on the weekend, i just edited [[ this is my LAST edit ]] of ``slicejourney.php''. it goes away in ten days. i have another issue that has more to do with freebsd on the new and lost cost notebook computers i had heard of. how many and which ones work best with our flavor of BSD. turns out that sometimes things-ubuntu fail, and i need something failsafe and with a keyboard. i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. anybody know? Aloha Gary, Agree that that any Ubunto OS is bad on notebooks. I have an HP Mini 1000 that I have network issues with because Ubunto barfs up any static network settings. HP Tech Support gave me advice to replace it with FreeBSD 7.2. Try it from a flash drive first to test everything then replace the Ubunto. I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?
danny writes: At the moment I am focuing the attention to the '/usr/ports/UPDATING' file. The question that arose is the following: is there any automated way to check if any of the port to be upgraded has specific upgrading notes written in that file? Not that I know of. However: on a single machine, it shouldn't be that hard to just remember. On one machine with almost 1000 ports installed, less that 200 get upgraded more than one per year. Of those in the 200 that involve code, maybe 50 get upgraded more than once every three months. And those tend to be either trivial, or huge (gnome, wine, openoffice, etc.). Do you prefer doing a mass or selective upgrade? The difference? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Audio
2009/6/20 Jeff Molofee n...@telus.net: Just wondering what changed with the sound on BSD? My system way back in the 4.x days sounded not too bad... good bass, etc. After dropping my audio cards for on board audio (intel hda) I noticed the sound was really BAD... tin can, bad separation, no bass at all. Some time this past week, my audio went from sounding like crap to absolutely phenomenal!!! My sub works again, audio is coming out of the center channel, left and right speakers are not putting out ALL of the sound. Is it just me? Did I miss a notice about upgrades to the sound drivers? Whatever it is... AMAZING!!! Agreed, 3db greater modulation, better granularity, useable eq . . . Are you running -CURRENT, then? http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=4771 (I don't have a clue if this was MFC'd to -STABLE) Also, thank you, ar...@! -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Gary Kline wrote: for the dedicated nerds on-list now on the weekend, i just edited [[ this is my LAST edit ]] of ``slicejourney.php''. it goes away in ten days. i have another issue that has more to do with freebsd on the new and lost cost notebook computers i had heard of. how many and which ones work best with our flavor of BSD. turns out that sometimes things-ubuntu fail, and i need something failsafe and with a keyboard. i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. anybody know? Aloha Gary, Agree that that any Ubunto OS is bad on notebooks. I have an HP Mini 1000 that I have network issues with because Ubunto barfs up any static network settings. HP Tech Support gave me advice to replace it with FreeBSD 7.2. Try it from a flash drive first to test everything then replace the Ubunto. I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. aloha! is there a particular url[s], or should i just google? lots of miscellaneous questions that the websites may be able to answer. gary -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?
2009/6/21 danny mesli...@yahoo.fr: Hi list members , I frequently update the contents of the ports tree but I have never upgraded any port. I am studying the way to do it, by following the handbook and an article on The FreeBSD Diary about the use of portupgrade. At the moment I am focuing the attention to the '/usr/ports/UPDATING' file. The question that arose is the following: is there any automated way to check if any of the port to be upgraded has specific upgrading notes written in that file ? Do you prefer doing a mass or selective upgrade ? Thanks ! dan I would tend to upgrade perl first; have a look in UPDATING to see how it's done. That'll upgrade the majority of your ports too. You may also have a small problem if you're still running XFree86 (which you probably will if you've had your system a while). Look in UPDATING for that too, and then just do a portupgrade -aP. Good luck, and I hope your processor's properly cooled! Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kern.securelevel
2009/6/19 Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com: Something dawned on me. FreeBSD/Open/Net are all well secured systems. On an Internet-facing router, would applying a higher kern.securelevel provide any better, tighter, higher security if the machine was broken into? Given you need to lower the securelevel before multiuser, it is a reasonable to think raising the securelevel will give higher comfort feeling? I know this is a logical/thinking/mind question, but that's what I'm asking for. By all means raise your securelevel if you're happy with firewall rules, and don't ever need to change flags on files, but really, unless you expect root to be broken, it's kinda annoying. Just disallow root access to EVERYTHING, ssh, telnet (if you're mad enough to run it facing the net), ftp, etc. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Gary Kline wrote: for the dedicated nerds on-list now on the weekend, i just edited [[ this is my LAST edit ]] of ``slicejourney.php''. it goes away in ten days. i have another issue that has more to do with freebsd on the new and lost cost notebook computers i had heard of. how many and which ones work best with our flavor of BSD. turns out that sometimes things-ubuntu fail, and i need something failsafe and with a keyboard. i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. anybody know? Aloha Gary, Agree that that any Ubunto OS is bad on notebooks. I have an HP Mini 1000 that I have network issues with because Ubunto barfs up any static network settings. HP Tech Support gave me advice to replace it with FreeBSD 7.2. Try it from a flash drive first to test everything then replace the Ubunto. I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. aloha! is there a particular url[s], or should i just google? lots of miscellaneous questions that the websites may be able to answer. gary -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol There was a big discussion on this list about a month back about laptops. You can search for answers on our FreeBSD list or on Google. Consumer reports also had a discussion in their magazine last month. Many of the net book sellers are now putting Linux OS on them. But not all models. New Egg, Comp USA (on line) Tiger Direct etc. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kern.securelevel
On 6/21/09, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com writes: Something dawned on me. FreeBSD/Open/Net are all well secured systems. On an Internet-facing router, would applying a higher kern.securelevel provide any better, tighter, higher security if the machine was broken into? Given you need to lower the securelevel before multiuser, it is a reasonable to think raising the securelevel will give higher comfort feeling? I can't understand your last sentence. Let me try to rephrase it. When securelevel is raised, to lower it to accomplish a task such as installworld or something, you have to comment/lower the level in the rc.conf and reboot in order to reach the lower level. Once the lower-level is reached (after a reboot, including assuming maybe SUM might be able to change it), you can do your installworld and then re-raise the securelevel back up. keeping the securelevel up means that nothing (poor choice of word.. nothing in terms of the perfect world and no SA's are announced or anything) can be compromised and altered without first loosing the connection to the box. I dunno, this is a new idea I had on internet-facing routers (not necessarily for secured servers or anything). Just trying to get the public's feel of who might be using it, why they're using it, and if they feel safer using it. I would love to hear if any popular corporations (big names, like yahoo, hp, etc) are using this kind of secured approach. The obvious thing is that a raised securelevel only helps if it doesn't get in the way of operations you need to do. A bit less obvious is that it only helps if you are sure you will know if the system reboots. I would gladly put myself through the headache of the lower/reboot/change config/raise if I can see if it makes sense to the other big names that it's helping them stay secure. The other idea I had was to mark for example ttyv0-7 secure (preferably marking only ttyd0 on serial console secure), leaving the rest insecure, raising securelevel and working that angle. This is a post very seriously asking opinions on the securelevel mechanism, and I am asking for people's opinion. I know everyone is different, but I am trying to get a feel for the public use of it. --Tim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Small notebook platforms. [was: Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?]
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42:00PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: i have another issue that has more to do with freebsd on the new and lost cost notebook computers i had heard of. how many and which ones work best with our flavor of BSD. turns out that sometimes things-ubuntu fail, and i need something failsafe and with a keyboard. i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. [[ munch ]] I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. [[ munch ]] okay. i'm on the eeepc.asus.com site. but don't see much info on the spec. i bot asus once years ago and the motherboard crapped out on me after a year. but by now, should be more reliable. anyway, i see only wireless, and i'm cat5 only. i've got a 13-yr-old people here who would love for me to go wireless so said people could take her apple macbook into her bedroom and so on. well, said people need to be not hiding-in-room, in my opinion as said people's father. so is there any other cute notebooks like this EEe Pc that have cable? oh, and this tiny thing doesn't look big enough to have any speakers. since the main point of this experiment is to allow typing onthe kde tts apps and have voice output, a speaker is a must-have. feedback, you guys? gary ps: the 7 deal is serious cute, but the kybd is tiny and while i have no hand tremor or anything, i'd probably fat-finger most keys. anybody have the small asus? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small notebook platforms. [was: Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?]
2009/6/21 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org: anyway, i see only wireless, and i'm cat5 only. i've got a 13-yr-old people here who would love for me to go wireless so said people could take her apple macbook into her bedroom and so on. well, said people need to be not hiding-in-room, in my opinion as said people's father. Faraday cage? Also, netbook, schmetbook. IBM thinkpad x40: 150-180$ on craigslist. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small notebook platforms. [was: Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?]
Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42:00PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: i have another issue that has more to do with freebsd on the new and lost cost notebook computers i had heard of. how many and which ones work best with our flavor of BSD. turns out that sometimes things-ubuntu fail, and i need something failsafe and with a keyboard. i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. [[ munch ]] I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. [[ munch ]] okay. i'm on the eeepc.asus.com site. but don't see much info on the spec. i bot asus once years ago and the motherboard crapped out on me after a year. but by now, should be more reliable. anyway, i see only wireless, and i'm cat5 only. i've got a 13-yr-old people here who would love for me to go wireless so said people could take her apple macbook into her bedroom and so on. well, said people need to be not hiding-in-room, in my opinion as said people's father. so is there any other cute notebooks like this EEe Pc that have cable? oh, and this tiny thing doesn't look big enough to have any speakers. since the main point of this experiment is to allow typing onthe kde tts apps and have voice output, a speaker is a must-have. feedback, you guys? gary ps: the 7 deal is serious cute, but the kybd is tiny and while i have no hand tremor or anything, i'd probably fat-finger most keys. anybody have the small asus? There's a wiki devoted to FreeBSD on Asus eee http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee last edited 2009-05-31 I personally think Asus desktop motherboards are going downhill, based on my very small sample of two old ones going strong and one recent one defunct, plus that funny marketing smell that creeps in - Rock Solid, Heart Touching geez. On the other hand the guys in the component level laptop repair shop I had to take my HP laptop to recently, told me they get fewer Asus laptops in for repair than anything, even thinkpads. (They get mostly HP :- ) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:15:31AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: [[ save the electrons ]] There was a big discussion on this list about a month back about laptops. You can search for answers on our FreeBSD list or on Google. Consumer reports also had a discussion in their magazine last month. Many of the net book sellers are now putting Linux OS on them. But not all models. New Egg, Comp USA (on line) Tiger Direct etc. thanks for the datapoints, al. my thought was that if i [or a small group of us] could get this typing-to-speech capability working for even $500, it would make headlines globally. freebsd --or maybe pcbsd, or whatever--even linux, since i'm not hard-core religiously opposed to linux. if this could work on portable computer with freebsd's *stability* it would be a win for the millions who do not have a lethal diseases but whose speech is too garbled for most people to understand. (( but then, for these many/most/some? of these neurological disorders degrade so that there is a window where people Can type for awhile before they get too bad.)) i finally read the glossy promo sheets on this windose device. it's got a hard drive, 256meg ram, 800mhz processor. rips you off for 8000 bux. that's for the basic touchscreen with a speaker. i'll poke around the rest of the weekend and see what i can learn. if this is too far OT, please write me offlist. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small notebook platforms. [was: Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?]
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 04:53:37PM -0400, ill...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/21 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org: anyway, i see only wireless, and i'm cat5 only. i've got a 13-yr-old people here who would love for me to go wireless so said people could take her apple macbook into her bedroom and so on. well, said people need to be not hiding-in-room, in my opinion as said people's father. Faraday cage? Also, netbook, schmetbook. IBM thinkpad x40: 150-180$ on craigslist. tx; i've got the info on an e-sticky -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Small notebook platforms. [was: Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?]
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:16:40PM +0100, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:42:00PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: There's a wiki devoted to FreeBSD on Asus eee http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee last edited 2009-05-31 outstanding; i'm looking at the top-of-page rt now:) I personally think Asus desktop motherboards are going downhill, based on my very small sample of two old ones going strong and one recent one defunct, plus that funny marketing smell that creeps in - Rock Solid, Heart Touching geez. my asus days date pre-2000 when there was a builtin asus-SCSI controller. and at the time anything scsi was a must. marketing folks rate somewhere _beneath_ used-car salesmen, IMHO. there is some saying about needs vs wants, and it's the marketing guys who get us to need whatever. . On the other hand the guys in the component level laptop repair shop I had to take my HP laptop to recently, told me they get fewer Asus laptops in for repair than anything, even thinkpads. (They get mostly HP :- ) ouch! i've got two critical hp kayaks from 1998. been praying to the hp-gods:) ---well, until i can get a real live human nerd over here to help me replace them. -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrading installed ports: time to do it ?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:07:51PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/6/21 danny mesli...@yahoo.fr: I frequently update the contents of the ports tree but I have never upgraded any port. I am studying the way to do it, by following the handbook and an article on The FreeBSD Diary about the use of portupgrade. At the moment I am focuing the attention to the '/usr/ports/UPDATING' file. The question that arose is the following: is there any automated way to check if any of the port to be upgraded has specific upgrading notes written in that file ? Try ports-mgmt/portupdate-scan. It attempts to filter UPDATING to only show entries pertinent to your installed ports. Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Intel i915 / Xorg issue
Hi, I've seen several posts with similar issues, but none of them have helped me resolve my own. I am using 7.2-RELEASE on my laptop with an Intel i915 graphics card. My problem is that Xorg refuses to start (most of the time) and posts an error in the log: drmDropMaster failed: Unknown Error -1 I have gotten X to start on occasion, but I've never been able to get fluxbox to start. The command Xorg -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf -retro always works correctly. xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f44c3bfa1 Xorg.0.log:http://pastebin.com/f22d7e99c dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/f7d02e787 Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Shawn I have the 82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL card. http://pastebin.com/mc88b390 My xorg.conf grep'd dmesg, Xorg log and full Xorg.log file. Have you tried running X without a conf file? The newest server doesn't need one, it should autodetect everything. HTH. -- Over the years I've come to regard you as people I've met. I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other, and when I am alone I am together. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
questions on the ASUS Eee Pc 1000 40G
i found two at newegg.com. both are the Eee PC; both come with linux. this one is the subject line seems to come with 40G of flash/solid state memory. Is this even possible for $400 given current technology? is there any FBSD version available? since it has an rj-45 lan jack, i will be able to download the text-to-speech software i'll need. any feedback? suggestions for fbsd-capable subnotebooks, etc?? gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-06-20
Is it me or this is really annoying and dating? I don't know for you, but for me 2 Dec 2008 is not recent. Is it because there's no submitting or simply because it's broken? Thanks Michel On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Dan Langille d...@langille.org wrote: The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. RECENT ARTICLES: 2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2 29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2 27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2 27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2 5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2 30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD an HDD failed. gmirror to the rescue. http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2 6-Jul : ezjail - A jail administration framework This makes jails easier http://freebsddiary.org/ezjail.php?2 24-Jun : Adding gmirror to an existing installation Adding RAID-1 to an existing FreeBSD 7 installation http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror.php?2 20-Mar : ThinkPad x61s Unpacking the box, installing PC-BSD http://freebsddiary.org/thinkpad-x61s.php?2 17-Mar : Using two monitors with X.org The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors http://freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The FreeBSD Diary: 2009-06-20
Michel Di Croci wrote: Is it me or this is really annoying and dating? I don't know for you, but for me 2 Dec 2008 is not recent. Is it because there's no submitting or simply because it's broken? http://www.freebsddiary.org/ confirms it is not broken. The original script included only articles posted within the past two weeks. Hence 'recent'. It was 'recently' suggested that the post should include the last few articles regardless of date. Thanks Michel On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Dan Langille d...@langille.org mailto:d...@langille.org wrote: The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists and/or The FreeBSD Diary http://www.freebsddiary.org/. RECENT ARTICLES: 2-Dec : Obscuring smtp auth headers If you consider your smtp-auth location to be private, this is what you want. http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-headers-rewrite-auth.php?2 29-Nov : OpenVPN - creating a routed VPN If you have multiple VPN clients, this is a practical solution. http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-routed.php?2 27-Nov : Creating your own Certificate Authority How to create a CA and generate your own SSL certificates http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn-easy-rsa.php?2 27-Nov : OpenVPN - getting it running Using OpenVPN to create a secure pathway between home and office http://freebsddiary.org/openvpn.php?2 5-Oct : Removing dead mailing lists from Mailman Mailing lists can outlive their usefulness http://freebsddiary.org/mailman-removing-dead-lists.php?2 30-Aug : gmirror - recovering from a failed HDD an HDD failed. gmirror to the rescue. http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror-failure.php?2 6-Jul : ezjail - A jail administration framework This makes jails easier http://freebsddiary.org/ezjail.php?2 24-Jun : Adding gmirror to an existing installation Adding RAID-1 to an existing FreeBSD 7 installation http://freebsddiary.org/gmirror.php?2 20-Mar : ThinkPad x61s Unpacking the box, installing PC-BSD http://freebsddiary.org/thinkpad-x61s.php?2 17-Mar : Using two monitors with X.org The GeForce 8600 GT with two monitors http://freebsddiary.org/xorg-two-screens.php?2 -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org mailto:freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kern.securelevel
On Sunday 21 June 2009 12:30:26 Tim Judd wrote: On 6/21/09, Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com writes: Something dawned on me. FreeBSD/Open/Net are all well secured systems. On an Internet-facing router, would applying a higher kern.securelevel provide any better, tighter, higher security if the machine was broken into? Given you need to lower the securelevel before multiuser, it is a reasonable to think raising the securelevel will give higher comfort feeling? I can't understand your last sentence. Let me try to rephrase it. When securelevel is raised, to lower it to accomplish a task such as installworld or something, you have to comment/lower the level in the rc.conf and reboot in order to reach the lower level. Actually, securelevel is often used to prevent editing of /etc files during service time, as mounts cannot be set to write once marked read-only. So one would first have to reboot, go into single user mode and then do installworld. The reason to prevent access to /etc is to prevent exploits on next reboot, by starting a service or modifying the path to a service. You would have to see how much you change files in /etc and whether the application in question can be configured without editing, like for pf using tables and anchors. That's one aspect of what Lowell Gilbert means with getting in the way of operations you need. I dunno, this is a new idea I had on internet-facing routers (not necessarily for secured servers or anything). Just trying to get the public's feel of who might be using it, why they're using it, and if they feel safer using it. For pf there's an additional advantage for const tables: they cannot be modified at all, if securelevel is 2. I use such a table for the private networks that cannot enter $ext_if. Overall, securelevel should be seen as reinforced doors inside the house: they slow down or prevent more disaster, once a thief is already inside. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:42:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: HP Tech Support gave me advice to replace it with FreeBSD 7.2. Try it from a flash drive first to test everything then replace the Ubunto. I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. is there a particular url[s], or should i just google? Thre's an excellent article: http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt Don't be scared because of .de - it's in English. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:24:18AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:42:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: HP Tech Support gave me advice to replace it with FreeBSD 7.2. Try it from a flash drive first to test everything then replace the Ubunto. I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. is there a particular url[s], or should i just google? Thre's an excellent article: http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt Don't be scared because of .de - it's in English. :-) dank. i'll check it out when i havw evo up. rt now i'm still using mutt. (until/if they have a gvim plugin for evo, i'm staying with mutt and my Beloved: vi ;-) one q, polyt. am i mis-reading the timestamp on your mail? it reads 05:24 which is getting pretty late. i admit to not sacking out until 04:09 this morning, but hey, it's sunday! gary -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org For FBSD list: http://transfinite.thought.org/slicejourney.php The 4.98a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: questions on the ASUS Eee Pc 1000 40G
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 05:35:14PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: i found two at newegg.com. both are the Eee PC; both come with linux. this one is the subject line seems to come with 40G of flash/solid state memory. Is this even possible for $400 given current technology? is there any FBSD version available? since it has an rj-45 lan jack, i will be able to download the text-to-speech software i'll need. any feedback? suggestions for fbsd-capable subnotebooks, etc?? not to be a stickler for information, but it looks like i've been living in a cave. i WAS going to post somethiing like: ``in 3 to 5 years when they have flash/SS drive with 64G...'' blah, blah and already this one with the intel Atom processor claims to' have 40 gigs now [!]. it doesn't seem that credible. the last time i checked the 2G sticks were common. -g ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:25:23 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: one q, polyt. am i mis-reading the timestamp on your mail? it reads 05:24 which is getting pretty late. i admit to not sacking out until 04:09 this morning, but hey, it's sunday! Actually, it's Monday morning in Germany: % date Mon Jun 22 06:59:58 CEST 2009 I'm up since 2:00 in the morning (night). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: questions on the ASUS Eee Pc 1000 40G
El día Sunday, June 21, 2009 a las 05:35:14PM -0700, Gary Kline escribió: i found two at newegg.com. both are the Eee PC; both come with linux. this one is the subject line seems to come with 40G of flash/solid state memory. Is this even possible for $400 given current technology? is there any FBSD version available? since it has an rj-45 lan jack, i will be able to download the text-to-speech software i'll need. any feedback? suggestions for fbsd-capable subnotebooks, etc?? gary You might want to check this page: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee I run 8-CURRENT on an EeePC 900 (with 20 GByte SSD); matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
