Re: chmod... what am I missing?
On 03/04/2013 12:40 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: I must not be attending the Right conferences, or else the Right parties, because I don't get the joke. Could somebody please explain to me the meaning of the BUGS section of the chmod(1) man page, as distributed with 9.1-RELEASE? http://www.mail-archive.com/svn-src-all@freebsd.org/msg04124.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Copyright notice in 9.1-RELEASE-p1 is 1992-2012 instead of 1992-2013
I just upgraded to systems from 7.4-STABLE to 9.1-RELEASE-p1 and noticed that the copyright shows 1992-2012 instead of 1992-2013 Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.4-STABLE #0 r247092: Thu Feb 21 11:22:38 CET 2013 Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p1 #1: Fri Feb 22 11:14:03 CET 2013 In CURRENT it is OK Copyright (c) 1992-2013 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r246823: Mon Feb 18 08:04:55 CET 2013 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg_add problems after upgrading to 9.1-RELEASE and a fix
On 02/20/2013 12:20 PM, paranormal wrote: And there was an unofficial pkg repository, I can't find where, it was mentioned recently. There was a message on the stable list http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-February/072037.html On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 11:03 +0100, Eduardo Morras wrote: Hi all, yesterday i updated my server to 9.1-RELEASE from 8.3. After that, while recompiling the ports and packages i get a lot off errors trying to get 9.1-RELESASE packages and all recompiled from ports. The problem is that there's no 9.1-RELEASE directory in ftp.freebsd.org server. I solved it after changing the path to fetch from 9-STABLE instead. A better fix i think it's to add that directory or make a ln to stable. The url where add the fault directory is: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/ the fault directoy is : ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.1-release/ An example of the error is: root@camibar:/usr/ports/www # pkg_add -r zen-cart Error: Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.1-release/Latest/zen-cart.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) pkg_add: unable to fetch 'ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-9.1-release/Latest/zen-cart.tbz' by URL I made the recompilation of ports with portmaster as noted in 'man portmaster' with this options (from memory, it's not a cp) #portmaster -P -R -D `cat /root/installed_ports_list` Thanks In Advance --- --- Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 02/05/13 04:22, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:04:40 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: I've almost always built from source since I switched to FreeBSD (I sometimes, during the initial installation, used pkgs), it's longer but more reliable. There was a message on the stable list http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-February/072037.html I use poudriere at the moment which works very well ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: binary updates for firefox and chromium?
On 01/31/2013 10:50 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: Hello. 2013/01/31 21:42:50 + Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : WH WH What, for example, is the problem with compiling Firefox 18 from the WH port? WH WH WH WH It takes about an hour to compile on my main box (9.1 Release on- WH WH x86_64), which has nothing special at all by way of hardware. WH WH It use to take me a day (~20h) to rebuild each of: www/firefox, WH www.seamonkey, mail/thunderbird. WH WH 20h? What on earth is your hardware? Neither hurry nor x86_64. But the browser performance is satisfactory. Thank you. On a 8 year old laptop with celeron 1,6GHz processor and 2GB RAM it takes about 10 hours to rebuild firefox and thunderbird. Performance is great for working, but when updating the ports I leave it building over night. Lately I have been able to use a server at work for package building with poudriere which works very well. I guess FreeBSD people are close to having a new package infrastructure and look forward to this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network PHY driver source code
On 01/30/2013 12:13 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: Hi all, Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source code details ? I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 Release. Please help me on this. Regards Hrisikesh Hi My guess: /usr/src/sys/dev/mii ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network PHY driver source code
On 01/30/2013 02:43 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: Thanks a lot for quick reply. There is no file within /usr/src folder. Could you please tell me how to get those source files for freebsd 9.1 release? You didn't install the sources when installing FreeBSD? For 9.1-RELEASE i386 you can get the sources from ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/mirror/FreeBSD/releases/i386/9.1-RELEASE/src.txz for instance or the amd64 sources from ftp://ftp.nl.freebsd.org/mirror/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/src.txz Then unpack with tar xf src.txc The result is usr/src unpacked in your current directory, move src to /usr/src On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: On 01/30/2013 12:13 PM, Hrisikesh sahu wrote: Hi all, Could you guide me where I can find all the supported PHY driver source code details ? I want to know what are the PHY drivers supported within Freebsd 9.1 Release. Please help me on this. Regards Hrisikesh Hi My guess: /usr/src/sys/dev/mii ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A little OT: VNCviewer recent_hosts does not work
On 01/16/2013 12:08 PM, Leslie Jensen wrote: I'm using vnc-4.1.3_5 on FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE with xfce4. I have about 10 different hosts that I usually connect to. I would like these hosts to be in a drop down menu so I just have to pick the one I need to connect to. From what I can read on-line the hosts should be saved to $HOME/.vnc/recent_hosts This file is not created by vncviewer and adding it manually has no effect. I would like to know if it's possible and in that case how to achieve what I want. Thank you. /Leslie I'm not sure about vnc but use remmina for this type of stuff. When installed with the appropriate plugins, it can connect via vnc, ssh and rdp. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FB 9.1 boot loader problem in VirtualBox
On 01/06/2013 01:51 PM, Michael Powell wrote: Michael Powell wrote: [snip] The converse may be applicable as well, that Vbox has configurability to know a little something about the environment for the proposed guest. When creating a new VM, you can choose BSD in the Operating System drop-down and then choose FreeBSD or FreebSD-64. I've had no trouble installing the 9.1 Release disk1 CD into a Vbox VM (amd64 version). What I have not done is tried all the various partitioning schemes available under Manual config. Possibly one, such as Dos MBR or BSD disklabel which I have not tried, may be broken boot-loading wise. I only went straight down the GPT road. Addendum: Also, which I forgot and left out in my haste, I think I have seen most reports of people having trouble seems to have revolved around the Auto partitioning scheme choice in the new bsdinstaller. I avoided it and went straight to Manual as I prefer to do my own. IIRC the Auto provides one slice and one partition and throws everything in there. I still wish to have separate partitions for /, /usr, /var, etc, so I've also never tried the Auto scheme either. Maybe if this is the problem the OP may wish to try avoiding Auto and proceed directly to Manual. Might rule something out. -Mike Auto configures your system with three gpt partitions freebsd-boot where the bootstrap code is installed freebsd-ufs which is the / partition freebsd-swap for swap obviously There are no slices involved in the default installation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: kldload if_run error
On 12/22/12 13:48, Вячеслав Агапов wrote: Hello. I try load if_run module on freebsd and got error uname -a FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0 r23 kldload if_run kldload: can't load if_run: Exec format error interface run.1 already present in the KLD 'kernel'! device run is in compiled into generic kernel you don't have to load the module since the driver is already included in the kernel linker_load_file: Unsupported file type on FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE i got the same error. help me. How i can load this module? I wont use usb wi-fi model d-link dwa-125. thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: exclude directories from find command
On 12/22/12 15:22, Jack Mc Lauren wrote: Hi fellas How can I exclude specific directories from my find command ? I want to look for all files in the whole system except for those in e.g /extra directory. I use this command to find all files, but how can I exclude /extra directory ? find / -type f find -path /extra -prune -o -type f Thanks in advance ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
poudriere upgade perl in jail
I have poudriere setup on a server to compile packages for my old laptop, mini, and some friends laptops and it works great. How can I upgrade the perl version of the poudriere jail to perl-5.16, it is now perl-5.14? I tried startied the jail with poudriere jail -s -j and then try jail command=portmaster -o lang/perl5.16 lang/perl5.14 but can't get this to work. Should I just wipe the jail, then recreate and first build perl5.16 in it before building the other packages? I have read the man pages for poudriere and jail and searched the web for this, but can't get to the right solution. Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: poudriere upgade perl in jail
On 12/22/12 17:08, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote: Le Sat, 22 Dec 2012 16:56:09 +0100, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl a écrit : I have poudriere setup on a server to compile packages for my old laptop, mini, and some friends laptops and it works great. How can I upgrade the perl version of the poudriere jail to perl-5.16, it is now perl-5.14? I tried startied the jail with poudriere jail -s -j and then try jail command=portmaster -o lang/perl5.16 lang/perl5.14 but can't get this to work. Should I just wipe the jail, then recreate and first build perl5.16 in it before building the other packages? I think PERL_VERSION=5.16.X in the poudriere jail's make.conf will do the trick. Then you will have to rebuild all the poudriere packages (not sure if this is safe else) Alright. Thanks! That did it. It looks like it deleted all perl5.14 dependent packages and is rebuilding them now with perl5.16.2 Great :) Maybe I should have asked the question before spending a day figuring out how. Merci beaucoup. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
portmaster: hal-0.5.14_20 and xorg-server-1.7.7_6, 1 (re)installation fails
When running portmaster -d -w -r pcre because of the upgrade from pcre-8.31 to pcre-8.32 I encountered the following inconveniences: Upgrade to hal-0.5.14_20 failed with the message it needs intltool 0.40 which was installed at the time. First upgrading to intltool-0.41.1 solved this. When reinstalling xorg-server-1.7.7_6,1 with portmaster today: Making install in xkb mkdir: /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/compiled: No such file or directory mkdir: /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/compiled: No such file or directory So I checked /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/compiled and this is a symlink to /var/lib/xkb which did not exist at the time. I created /var/lib/xkb and the installation went fine then. There is one file installed in this location: README.compiled This worked, but is it the right solution? Does anyone know what changed maybe? This is on 9.1-RELEASE with a portstree just updated with portsnap. Previous versions of the ports were from about 20 days ago. Everything is installed the standard way. Just if someone runs into these issues these may be found in the list (or already have been solved in ports) Things like this do not happen too often. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: updatedb?
On 12/18/12 22:32, RW wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:01:33 + (UTC) Walter Hurry wrote: $ sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb WARNING Executing updatedb as root. This WILL reveal all filenames on your machine to all login users, which is a security risk. $ Why is it a security risk? Security through obscurity? Really? In this day and age? Or am I missing something? If permissions have been set to prevent other users reading filenames then obviously leaking file names is security issue. Yes. But as stated before it defaults to run as user nobody. Line 26 /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate echo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb | nice -n 5 su -fm nobody || rc=3 No issue there. If someone runs it as root it can be, as everything being run as root, a security issue. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: updatedb?
On 12/18/12 23:04, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: $ sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb WARNING Executing updatedb as root. This WILL reveal all filenames on your machine to all login users, which is a security risk. $ Why is it a security risk? Security through obscurity? Really? In this day and age? Or am I missing something? Suppose someone managed to start a shell under your account and is seeking to escalate privileges, i.e. to become root. If he can look at a full unrestricted locatedb, he may pay particular attention to config files, log files etc... that may otherwise be hidden from sight. locate.updatebd is _not_ run as root by default. See Polytropon's and other replies. If root runs it, it is root's responsibility that others can obtain all filenames on the system. Just by looking at this, he may infer that a particular software package at a particular revision is actually running on that host and is configured in a particular way. E.g., he may see that logfiles accumulate in /var/log and are cleaned only once a week. It would be then easy to induce that program to create more log files, thus denying service to other programs that need /var as well. This, in turn, could result in real exploits of those other programs... Sure, most of this is already world-visible and in the regular locatedb because we're so liberal with the rights of /var/db/pkg, /var/log, /etc, ... but some admins prefer to hide particularly sensitive programs, their configs, logs etc., in a non-world-readable directory hierarchy. Running locate.updatedb(8) with root privileges would defeat that strategy. That's why it is discouraged. Of course, this is even more necessary when you have regular users on that machine that don't necessarily trust each others. They wouldn't like their home dirs to be world-readable by default by everyone else. Maybe they won't object (and set /home/$USER to -rwxr-xr-x instead of -rwxr-x--- or -rwx--) but that's their call, not the sysadmin's. -cpghost. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: updatedb?
On 12/18/12 23:44, RW wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:53:29 +0100 Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:32:50 +, RW wrote: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:01:33 + (UTC) Walter Hurry wrote: $ sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb WARNING Executing updatedb as root. This WILL reveal all filenames on your machine to all login users, which is a security risk. $ Why is it a security risk? Security through obscurity? Really? In this day and age? Or am I missing something? If permissions have been set to prevent other users reading filenames then obviously leaking file names is security issue. There are no leaking file names, There is from the perspective of an ordinary user that's configured directories under ~ to be confidential. as by command, the tool does what it is requested to: to not obey the restrictions that apply in its _normal_ use and list _all_ file names instead. Obviously. But the warning is intended for people that haven't thought through the consequences of what they are doing. Agree. It is good to be there. Should be clear to Walter I guess. It is not security through obscurity, it is security by permissions and controls, and root can circumvent these and expose potential security risks by information to others or the world, thus the warning when running it as root. Thanks. On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 22:49:43 +0100 Bas Smeelen wrote: Yes. But as stated before it defaults to run as user nobody. Line 26 /etc/periodic/weekly/310.locate echo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb | nice -n 5 su -fm nobody || rc=3 This is true but not very relevant. It runs as nobody from the periodic script, but the warning comes from locate.updatedb itself, which may be run independently of 310.locate. If someone runs it as root it can be, as everything being run as root, a security issue. Not really, mostly when things are run as root there is an additional risk. Very few things do the wrong thing simply as a consequence of running as root so it warrants a warning. Fully agree. Root can be a liability though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: updatedb?
On 12/18/12 23:04, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Walter Hurry walterhu...@gmail.com wrote: $ sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb WARNING Executing updatedb as root. This WILL reveal all filenames on your machine to all login users, which is a security risk. $ Why is it a security risk? Security through obscurity? Really? In this day and age? Or am I missing something? Suppose someone managed to start a shell under your account and is seeking to escalate privileges, i.e. to become root. If he can look at a full unrestricted locatedb, he may pay particular attention to config files, log files etc... that may otherwise be hidden from sight. Just by looking at this, he may infer that a particular software package at a particular revision is actually running on that host and is configured in a particular way. E.g., he may see that logfiles accumulate in /var/log and are cleaned only once a week. It would be then easy to induce that program to create more log files, thus denying service to other programs that need /var as well. This, in turn, could result in real exploits of those other programs... Sure, most of this is already world-visible and in the regular locatedb because we're so liberal with the rights of /var/db/pkg, /var/log, /etc, ... but some admins prefer to hide particularly sensitive programs, their configs, logs etc., in a non-world-readable directory hierarchy. Running locate.updatedb(8) with root privileges would defeat that strategy. That's why it is discouraged. Of course, this is even more necessary when you have regular users on that machine that don't necessarily trust each others. They wouldn't like their home dirs to be world-readable by default by everyone else. Maybe they won't object (and set /home/$USER to -rwxr-xr-x instead of -rwxr-x--- or -rwx--) but that's their call, not the sysadmin's. -cpghost. Sorry, cpghost, I missed the point. Clear explanation. Should such programs be modified so there is never a change to being run as root? I guess there are environments where measures like these are taken, no warning, just refuse to run as root? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
zfsboot error 1 just sometimes
Sometimes when I start my laptop it does not start with the following message zfsboot: error 1 lba 48 zfsboot: error 1 lba 0 zfsboot: no ZFS pools located, can't boot FreeBSD ZFSroot is installed on a MBR partitioned hard disk in the second slice which has two partitions: freebsd-zfs and freebsd-swap. I installed the boot code according to the wiki with: dd if=/mnt2/boot/zfsboot of=/dev/ada0s2 count=1 dd if=/mnt2/boot/zfsboot of=/dev/ada0s2a skip=1 seek=1024 It just happens sometimes. The reason I ask is because I want to backup and then repartition the disk with GPT and just put FreeBSD ZFSroot on it, but maybe I should use UFS instead? I used smartctl to get some diskinfo and the only thing I can think of is the error disk power-on. 40 51 7c e4 84 fb e8 Error: UNC 124 sectors at LBA = 0x08fb84e4 = 150701284 There are no reallocated sectors though, to me it seems the disk should be fine? Does anybody have a suggestion? Thanks in advance. Output of smartctl below: smartctl 6.0 2012-10-10 r3643 [FreeBSD 9.1-RC3-p1 i386] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-12, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Hitachi Travelstar 5K160 Device Model: Hitachi HTS541612J9AT00 Serial Number:SB0D04E4H02PUE LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 51ece21a7 Firmware Version: SBDOA70H User Capacity:120,034,123,776 bytes [120 GB] Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13/1532D revision 1 Local Time is:Thu Dec 13 09:41:34 2012 CET SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00)Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0)The previous self-test routine completed without error or no self-test has ever been run. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 645) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate. Auto Offline data collection on/off support. Suspend Offline collection upon new command. Offline surface scan supported. Self-test supported. No Conveyance Self-test supported. Selective Self-test supported. SMART capabilities:(0x0003)Saves SMART data before entering power-saving mode. Supports SMART auto save timer. Error logging capability:(0x01)Error logging supported. General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. Extended self-test routine recommended polling time: ( 73) minutes. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 062Pre-fail Always - 0 2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 040Pre-fail Offline - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0007 083 083 033Pre-fail Always - 3 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0012 099 099 000Old_age Always - 2754 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 067Pre-fail Always - 0 8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 040Pre-fail Offline - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 095 095 000Old_age Always - 2312 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013 100 100 060Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000Old_age Always - 2673 191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x000a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 58 193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0012 097 097 000Old_age Always - 36981 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0002 250 250 000Old_age Always - 22 (Min/Max 13/45) 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 62 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0022 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0008 100 100 000Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x000a 200 200 000Old_age Always - 0 223 Load_Retry_Count0x000a 100 100
Re: FreeBSD Release Date Challenge, plus other stuff the project needs
On 12/11/2012 08:17 AM, Stephen Cook wrote: On 12/11/2012 1:52 AM, Anonymous wrote: We, the users of FreeBSD, *do hereby challenge* the FreeBSD project to meet its future release dates. Similarly, I'm a bit concerned that 9.0 loses support at the end of January, but there is no release date for 9.1 (at http://www5.us.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/schedule.html, the last actual date shown is November 3, 2012, for RC3). I'm confused as to the best course of action: continue to use an unsupported version and hope the new one comes out sooner than later, or downgrade to a supported version (8.3). I know FreeBSD is free and community-supported, but this still seems a bit... improper? Right now I'm only dealing with personal machines (and nothing truly vital at that), but I am formulating plans to use FreeBSD commercially and this makes me uneasy. Well for production servers I have the habit of staying on 8.3-RELEASE, in this case, which is supported until April 30 2014 and then move them to 9.1-RELEASE I have been doing so for previous releases also, no need to get worried. For personal and testing systems, like being not for clients production systems, I use whatever is desired, RELEASE, BETA, or RC (freebsd-update) and STABLE, or CURRENT (source svn) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1-RC3 LiveCD missing features
On 12/08/12 00:05, Tomek CEDRO wrote: On 12/07/12 23:11, Chuck Burns wrote: On 12/7/2012 3:50 PM, CeDeROM wrote: Hello I have tried to chceck for badblocks on my / but I did not find badblocks program on LiveCD and there is no option to install it. This is very useful utility, please add it as part of LiveCD Also there is a problem with DHCP based workstations using LiveCD - although interface gets configured it is impossible to update /etc/resolv.conf (by dhclient and by hand) and so this workstation pretty useless for IPv4 (is it more usable on IPv6?). Please update Thank you Tomek dd if=/dev/zer of=/dev/ada0 ^^^ There's your badblocks program. Any hard drive made in the last decade have been self-remapping.. Attempting to write to a bad block will cause the hard drive to remap an unused sector into it's place, until the drive runs out of said unused backup sectors, and at that time, will begin simply begin just losing storage space... IE the number of total sectors on the drive will begin to shrink. /dev/zero Badblocks is outdated for more than 17 years I guess The dd mentioned above will let the firmware remap all bad sectors until there are no spare sectors left (and wipe anything on disk as a bonus ;then you can begin to think about replacing your harddrive. As for DHCP, it works for me when booting from a netinstall for instance or going to fixit. Tomek, please try to describe more accurately what you are doing and try to accomplish As I get ffs_valloc kernel panic on my / I want to check for badblocks but cannot do that from the system itself so I need another FreeBSD instance to run badblocks on unmounted /. There are no badblocks on LiveCD and I cannot simply download it with pkg_add -r. Installing another system just to test existing one seems silly. It would be nice to finally have swiss army knife on generic LiveCD FreeBSD install, not using linux windows hirens etc :-) I have just started dd if=root of=root from LiveCD, Ill let you know if that worked :-) I will be surprised what that will do for you I have lloked at the picture and all I can come up wih is either bad hardware or a very strange software/system configuration. Good luck Please reply to this list if any ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Questions not working again?
On 12/08/12 01:00, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:32:40 -1000 Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote: Aloha FreeBSD mail list. This is the second month that it questions have stopped working to my mail box. All the other lists are fine that I subscribe to. My firewall spam wall has not been changed. what Do you mean? You could not post to it? You did not get any messages from it anymore? Erich Any way to fix this? There is no difference between the mails I get from questions and what I got in my mail ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Questions not working again?
On 12/08/12 01:04, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 12/08/12 01:00, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:32:40 -1000 Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote: Aloha FreeBSD mail list. This is the second month that it questions have stopped working to my mail box. All the other lists are fine that I subscribe to. My firewall spam wall has not been changed. what Do you mean? You could not post to it? You did not get any messages from it anymore? Erich Any way to fix this? There is no difference between the mails I get from questions and what I got in my mail The mail in archives on http-list I meant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: root filesystem and soft-update
On 12/04/12 22:50, Rick Miller wrote: Hi all, I remember one time seeing a site that explained why soft-updates was not enabled for the root filesystem. I tried looking for it earlier, but failed to locate it. Is there someone who knows where it is? -- Rick Hi Rick Maybe in the FAQ? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/faq/disks.html#safe-softupdates ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recent security announcement and csup/cvsup?
On 11/20/2012 12:45 PM, Mohacsi Janos wrote: Dear Ollivier and all, I have problem with the portsnap: I maintain a private repository under the /usr/ports: There is a /usr/ports/tmp where I store new ports to be tested, and submitted. The portsnap is removing unrecognized local files. With cvsup I don't have such a problem. I have no information about pkgng, whether I can maintain private repository with pkgng or not? I guess the best in this case is to switch to subversion. http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsSubversionPrimer Janos Mohacsi Head of HBONE+ project Network Engineer, Director Network and Multimedia NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY Co-chair of Hungarian IPv6 Forum Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Gary Palmer on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 01:04:21PM -0500: In other words: while signed updates via freebsd-update and portsnap are great for a good chunk of users, they don't address everyones needs. Hopefully, with the move toward kngng, there will be less need of portsnap (and /usr/ports for that matter). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- robe...@keltia.net In memoriam to Ondine, our 2nd child: http://ondine.keltia.net/ This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WARNING: FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date.
On 11/16/2012 08:52 AM, Matthias Petermann wrote: Hi Andreas, do I understand it right - the default behaviour of freebsd-update will be to update a 9.0 system to 9.1 when it becomes available? So this is a rolling procedure? Hi No it only updates the release you have. To upgrade you wil have to use -r and specify the release In other words to upgrade use freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade I ask this because I could not find a parameter etc. in the man page which may influent this, e.g. to limit updates to stay in a main release (9.0, 9.0-p1, 9.0-p., 9.0-p12) but don't upgrade to 9.1. Kind regards, Matthias Am Freitag, 16. November 2012 00:25 CET, Andreas Rudisch cyb.@gmx.net schrieb: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:46:53 +0100 Matthias Petermann wrote: Thanks for the clearification. One technical thing: is it possible, to upgrade from FreeBSD 9.0 to 9.1 with the freebsd-update utility? Yes, it is. This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 and SU+J
On 11/03/2012 07:30 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: On 03.11.2012 13:48, Doug Hardie wrote: I didn't notice that journaling is on by default and now dump is failing. The only way I can see to disable journaling requires that the file system be dismounted, or read-only. This is a remote machine and journaling is on root. Is there any other way that would not require me to make a long trip out to the site? This is a task for mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk Hmm, I think you have to make a trip or get some kind of remote console over ip. I tried it remote on a 9.1-RC2 system that has / /tmp /var and /usr as seperate partions For / i can do a mount -o ro / and tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 then mount -o rw / For the /tmp /var and /usr filesystems this does not work bcause hey cannot be remounted ro while they are busy. This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 and SU+J
On 11/04/2012 02:11 PM, RW wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 11:44:28 +0100 Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/03/2012 07:30 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: On 03.11.2012 13:48, Doug Hardie wrote: I didn't notice that journaling is on by default and now dump is failing. The only way I can see to disable journaling requires that the file system be dismounted, or read-only. This is a remote machine and journaling is on root. Is there any other way that would not require me to make a long trip out to the site? This is a task for mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk Hmm, I think you have to make a trip or get some kind of remote console over ip. I tried it remote on a 9.1-RC2 system that has / /tmp /var and /usr as seperate partions For / i can do a mount -o ro / and tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 then mount -o rw / For the /tmp /var and /usr filesystems this does not work bcause hey cannot be remounted ro while they are busy. A quick and dirty way to do it would be to edit /etc/rc.d/fsck and put your tunefs commands at the bottom of fsck_start(), then do a reboot. Very nice :) Thanks a lot! I tried this and can confirm it works. _But_ not all partitions are soft updates without journaling now. It didn't work for the / partition, I guess because / is mounted rw before /etc/rc.d/fsck is executed. For the / partition I guess I will really have to be at the console starting single user, because mount -o ro en then disable with tunefs -j disable did not work either. See at the end of this mail. I wonder if it even can be accomplished when booting single user, which I cannto test right now. Doug, if you have more partitions than just / you could go ahead with the above solution, it worked for me. You can then at least dump data from your other partitions. See below: root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) edit /etc/rc.d/fsck and added: /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p3 /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p4 /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p5 just before } load_rc_config $name run_rc_command $1 at the end. shutdown -r now and I have root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) See below for mount -o ro root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount -o ro / root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 Clearing journal flags from inode 4 tunefs: soft updates journaling cleared but soft updates still set. tunefs: remove .sujournal to reclaim space shutdown -r now but still root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 and SU+J
On 11/04/2012 03:00 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/04/2012 02:11 PM, RW wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 11:44:28 +0100 Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/03/2012 07:30 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: On 03.11.2012 13:48, Doug Hardie wrote: I didn't notice that journaling is on by default and now dump is failing. The only way I can see to disable journaling requires that the file system be dismounted, or read-only. This is a remote machine and journaling is on root. Is there any other way that would not require me to make a long trip out to the site? I guess I was a little off here, it actually worked for / also See further below for the whole story This was all done remote with ssh $ mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) $ su Password: root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /var/.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /tmp/.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /usr/.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # uname -a FreeBSD osebart.ose.nl 9.1-RC2 FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241106: Mon Oct 1 18:26:44 UTC 2012 r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 This is a task for mfsBSD: http://mfsbsd.vx.sk Hmm, I think you have to make a trip or get some kind of remote console over ip. I tried it remote on a 9.1-RC2 system that has / /tmp /var and /usr as seperate partions For / i can do a mount -o ro / and tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 then mount -o rw / For the /tmp /var and /usr filesystems this does not work bcause hey cannot be remounted ro while they are busy. A quick and dirty way to do it would be to edit /etc/rc.d/fsck and put your tunefs commands at the bottom of fsck_start(), then do a reboot. Very nice :) Thanks a lot! I tried this and can confirm it works. _But_ not all partitions are soft updates without journaling now. It didn't work for the / partition, I guess because / is mounted rw before /etc/rc.d/fsck is executed. For the / partition I guess I will really have to be at the console starting single user, because mount -o ro en then disable with tunefs -j disable did not work either. See at the end of this mail. I wonder if it even can be accomplished when booting single user, which I cannto test right now. Doug, if you have more partitions than just / you could go ahead with the above solution, it worked for me. You can then at least dump data from your other partitions. See below: root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) edit /etc/rc.d/fsck and added: /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p3 /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p4 /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p5 just before } load_rc_config $name run_rc_command $1 at the end. shutdown -r now and I have root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) See below for mount -o ro root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount -o ro / root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, read-only) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 Clearing journal flags from inode 4 tunefs: soft updates journaling cleared but soft updates still set. tunefs: remove .sujournal to reclaim space shutdown -r now but still root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 and SU+J
On 11/04/2012 11:18 PM, Doug Hardie wrote: On 4 November 2012, at 07:04, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/04/2012 03:00 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/04/2012 02:11 PM, RW wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 11:44:28 +0100 Bas Smeelen wrote: On 11/03/2012 07:30 PM, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: On 03.11.2012 13:48, Doug Hardie wrote: I didn't notice that journaling is on by default and now dump is failing. The only way I can see to disable journaling requires that the file system be dismounted, or read-only. This is a remote machine and journaling is on root. Is there any other way that would not require me to make a long trip out to the site? I guess I was a little off here, it actually worked for / also See further below for the whole story This was all done remote with ssh $ mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) /dev/da0p3 on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p4 on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/da0p5 on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) $ su Password: root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /var/.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /tmp/.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # rm /usr/.sujournal root@osebart:/usr/home/Freebee # uname -a FreeBSD osebart.ose.nl 9.1-RC2 FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241106: Mon Oct 1 18:26:44 UTC 2012 r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I can't get that to work on i386. Here is /etc/rc.d/fsck: fi echo Ready for tunefs /sbin/tunefs -j disable /dev/da0p2 } load_rc_config $name run_rc_command $1 reboot computer and here is the output from messages: Nov 4 14:07:19 Router kernel: Ready for tunefs Nov 4 14:07:19 Router kernel: Clearing journal flags from inode 4 Nov 4 14:07:19 Router kernel: tunefs: soft updates journaling cleared but soft updates still set. Nov 4 14:07:19 Router kernel: tunefs: remove .sujournal to reclaim space Nov 4 14:07:19 Router kernel: Mounting local file systems:. and the output from mount: Router# mount /dev/da0p2 on / (ufs, local, journaled soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local, multilabel) Journaled is still on after 2 reboots. Router# uname -a FreeBSD Router 9.1-RC2 FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241133: Tue Oct 2 17:11:45 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 -- Doug Hi Doug This is bad. It did not work for me that way either on the / partition, but it worked on the other partitions. Because I have seperate /tmp /var and /usr partition I was able to mount the / partition readonly in multiuser mode with mount -o ro / and then tunefs -j disable and right after that reboot. It seems that somehow when the / partition gets mounted after disabling the journal, journaled soft updates is still set and thus still enabled, but with a reboot it gets cleared? I don't really understand this. This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problems upgrading from 7.2-RELEASE-p8 to 7.4 or 9.0-RELEASE
On 10/12/2012 10:53 AM, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: [ Greg Larkin wrote on Thu 11.Oct'12 at 20:49:19 -0400 ] Hi Stuart, If you click the link in this mailing list article (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218554.html), then follow the rest of the threaded messages, you should be able fix the problem once you upgrade to 7.4. The issue is that freebsd-update cannot update the ld-elf.so.1 binary on a running system, so after the upgrade to 7.4 (or higher), the system is not completely updated. This message (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-July/218884.html) has a fix, but it involves booting from a liveCD and replacing the binary manually. Would it be easier to do an update by building from source? I've never used freebsd-update myself so not had to troubleshoot these issues before. That's probably the best way. Bit I am wondering about this. I upgraded several systems (physical and virtual machines) with freebsd-update from 7.1 - 7.3 - 8.1 - 8.3 and also one system from 7.1 - 7.4 (with custom kernels) and did not encounter this. Did I just get lucky then? This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster options
On 10/12/2012 01:57 PM, jb wrote: jb jb.1234abcd at gmail.com writes: ... --index-only do not try to use /usr/ports. For updating ports when no /usr/ports directory is present the -PP|--packages-only option is required. See the ENVIRONMENT section below for additional requirements. ... And -PP|--packages-only option implies index only entry behavior, so there is redundancy here as well. Does anybody know where this --index-only option really matter ? jb Well /usr/local/sbin/portmaster is a _big_ shell script You could read through it to find the answer to your question This e-mail message, including any attachment(s), is intended solely for the addressee or addressees. Any views or opinions presented herein are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of OSE. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please return this e-mail message and the attachment(s) to the sender and delete and destroy all copies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem upgrading misc/help2man: missing language files
On 10/02/2012 10:59 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: I am unable to upgrade misc/help2man, required by autoconf and other ports that I want to upgrade that depend on perl and/or png. Currently installed version of help2man is 1.40.12 and new version is 1.40.13 I get a bundle of error messages like Extracting help2man (with variable substitutions) === Creating a backup package for old version help2man-1.40.12 tar: lib/bindtextdomain.so: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory Hi Tom Isn't this just the creation of the backup package that fails? I encounter errors like this sometimes, but portmaster goed on installing the newer version. tar: share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/de/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/el/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/eo/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/fi/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/fr/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/hr/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/it/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/pl/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/pt_BR/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/ru/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/sr/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/sv/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/uk/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/vi/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/ja/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 So here I am stuck. I don't know whether the fault is with my installed help2man-1.40.12 or the distfile for 1.40.13. Stuck? Or does portmaster continue as it should? How do I get past this impasse? I suppose I could use -x misc/help2man in portmaster commands, but don't really want to do that if 1.40.13 is good but my installation of 1.40.12 is corrupted. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Systeembeheerder OverNite Software Europe BV Dr. Nolenslaan 157 6136 GM Sittard THE NETHERLANDS phone: +31464200933 fax: +31464200934 web: http://www.ose.nl Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem upgrading misc/help2man: missing language files
On 10/02/2012 10:59 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: I am unable to upgrade misc/help2man, required by autoconf and other ports that I want to upgrade that depend on perl and/or png. Currently installed version of help2man is 1.40.12 and new version is 1.40.13 I get a bundle of error messages like Extracting help2man (with variable substitutions) === Creating a backup package for old version help2man-1.40.12 Below it looks like the creation of the backup package fails, which get's deleted by default after the new port is installed. I Just update ports on a CURRENT server with csup from cvsup4.nl.FreeBSD.org and the help2man version is still 1.40.12 I will go ahead and update from cvsup9.freebsd.org . . . No help2man-1.40.13 yet. Maybe csup the portstree again and retry portmaster misc/help2man? Did portmaster end with lines like Upgrade of help2man-1.40.11 to help2man-1.40.12 But then help2man-1.40.12 to help2man-1.40.13 instead of the above? The it should be OK. ** http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-ports-all tar: lib/bindtextdomain.so: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/eo/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/hr/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/sr/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/help2man.mo: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/de/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/el/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/eo/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/fi/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/fr/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/hr/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/it/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/pl/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/pt_BR/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/ru/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/sr/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/sv/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/uk/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/vi/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: man/ja/man1/help2man.1.gz: Cannot stat: No such file or directory tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors. pkg_create: make_dist: tar command failed with code 256 So here I am stuck. I don't know whether the fault is with my installed help2man-1.40.12 or the distfile for 1.40.13. How do I get past this impasse? I suppose I could use -x misc/help2man in portmaster commands, but don't really want to do that if 1.40.13 is good but my installation of 1.40.12 is corrupted. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Systeembeheerder OverNite Software Europe BV Dr. Nolenslaan 157 6136 GM Sittard THE NETHERLANDS phone: +31464200933 fax: +31464200934 web: http://www.ose.nl Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SOLVED: Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
This is now solved after an update to pecl-APC-3.1.13 Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
On 09/04/2012 04:18 AM, Michael Powell wrote: Paul Macdonald wrote: On 03/09/2012 12:26, Darrell Betts wrote: My php pages will no longer render in a web browser after upgrading to php 5.4.6. Used port upgrade to do this. Running apache 2.2.22_6. Checked the error log and this is what I receive [notice] child pid 38232 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) This does this on all php pages. Any idea how to fix this error? [snip] try editing your /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini, comment out all extensions (restart apache) and see if it stops seg faulting. If it works, add in the modules one by one until it stops. Previously i've seen people posting about the order being important Some while back I thought portupgrading PHP caused the extensions.ini to be edited after each and every extension rebuild/reinstall, causing a shuffle like effect. Since I do a backup before, including all configs, I got into the habit of just copying my old extensions.ini back into place afterwards prior to restarting PHP and/or web servers. -Mike Well with pkg_delete -f php5\* , removing all of php's config files in /usr/local/etc (keeping a backup of course) and then installing php-5.4.6 extensions resolved the problem. It does not happen too often that this goes wrong, but somehow php can be troublesome at times. Thanks Bas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
On 09/04/2012 04:18 AM, Michael Powell wrote: Paul Macdonald wrote: On 03/09/2012 12:26, Darrell Betts wrote: My php pages will no longer render in a web browser after upgrading to php 5.4.6. Used port upgrade to do this. Running apache 2.2.22_6. Checked the error log and this is what I receive [notice] child pid 38232 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) This does this on all php pages. Any idea how to fix this error? [snip] try editing your /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini, comment out all extensions (restart apache) and see if it stops seg faulting. If it works, add in the modules one by one until it stops. Previously i've seen people posting about the order being important Some while back I thought portupgrading PHP caused the extensions.ini to be edited after each and every extension rebuild/reinstall, causing a shuffle like effect. Since I do a backup before, including all configs, I got into the habit of just copying my old extensions.ini back into place afterwards prior to restarting PHP and/or web servers. -Mike My previous response was sent too early :( I still get errors in apache [Tue Sep 04 08:14:42 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.189] PHP Warning: Unknown: Unable to allocate memory for pool. in Unknown on line 0, referer: http://sys.ose.nl/cacti/graph_view.php?action=treetree_id=1leaf_id=21 [Tue Sep 04 08:14:43 2012] [notice] child pid 56172 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Tue Sep 04 08:14:43 2012] [notice] child pid 56163 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Tue Sep 04 08:14:53 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.189] PHP Warning: Unknown: Unable to allocate memory for pool. in Unknown on line 0, referer: http://sys.ose.nl/cacti/graph_view.php?action=treetree_id=1leaf_id=7 [Tue Sep 04 08:15:59 2012] [notice] child pid 56169 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) So now I will comment out all extensions and start investigating. Well it turns out to be apc.so, this comes with core php I guess? For completeness: The php manual states this is for alternative php cache. http://php.net/manual/en/book.apc.php With apc.so commented out and testing with cacti and mediawiki all seems to go well. My extensions.ini follows below extension=pdf.so extension=imagick.so ;extension=apc.so extension=hash.so extension=phar.so extension=zip.so extension=zlib.so extension=iconv.so extension=mysql.so extension=pdo.so extension=pdo_sqlite.so extension=sqlite3.so extension=json.so extension=tokenizer.so extension=filter.so extension=posix.so extension=ctype.so extension=dom.so extension=simplexml.so extension=xml.so extension=xmlreader.so extension=xmlwriter.so extension=session.so Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SOLVED: Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
On 09/04/2012 09:02 AM, Michael Powell wrote: Bas Smeelen wrote: [snip] My previous response was sent too early :( I still get errors in apache [Tue Sep 04 08:14:42 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.189] PHP Warning: Unknown: Unable to allocate memory for pool. in Unknown on line 0, referer: http://sys.ose.nl/cacti/graph_view.php?action=treetree_id=1leaf_id=21 [Tue Sep 04 08:14:43 2012] [notice] child pid 56172 exit signal [Segmentation fault (11) [snip] Well it turns out to be apc.so, this comes with core php I guess? [snip] I have found that the faults are present because www/pecl-APC was not recompiled/reinstalled. So I reinstalled www/pecl-APC with portmaster -f and this also reinstalled the following ports: Re-install pecl-APC-3.1.12 Re-install autoconf-2.69 Re-install autoconf-wrapper-20101119 Re-install gmake-3.82_1 Re-install gettext-0.18.1.1 Re-install libiconv-1.14 Re-install libtool-2.4.2 Re-install m4-1.4.16_1,1 Re-install perl-5.12.4_4 Re-install help2man-1.40.11 Re-install p5-Locale-gettext-1.05_3 Re-install php5-5.4.6 Re-install pcre-8.31 Re-install pkgconf-0.8.7_2 Re-install libxml2-2.7.8_3 Re-install apache-2.2.22_6 Re-install apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-1.4.5.1.3.12_1 Re-install db42-4.2.52_5 Re-install gdbm-1.9.1 Re-install automake-1.12.3 Re-install automake-wrapper-20101119 Re-install python27-2.7.3_3 Re-install expat-2.0.1_2 There is nothing about this in UPDATING, should there? This solved the problem anyway. Bas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SOLVED: Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
On 09/04/2012 09:02 AM, Michael Powell wrote: Bas Smeelen wrote: [snip] My previous response was sent too early :( I still get errors in apache [Tue Sep 04 08:14:42 2012] [error] [client 192.168.1.189] PHP Warning: Unknown: Unable to allocate memory for pool. in Unknown on line 0, referer: http://sys.ose.nl/cacti/graph_view.php?action=treetree_id=1leaf_id=21 [Tue Sep 04 08:14:43 2012] [notice] child pid 56172 exit signal [Segmentation fault (11) [snip] Well it turns out to be apc.so, this comes with core php I guess? [snip] Sorry, this just delays the error but it eventually comes back so I'll keep apc.so commented. I have found that the faults are present because www/pecl-APC was not recompiled/reinstalled. So I reinstalled www/pecl-APC with portmaster -f and this also reinstalled the following ports: Re-install pecl-APC-3.1.12 Re-install autoconf-2.69 Re-install autoconf-wrapper-20101119 Re-install gmake-3.82_1 Re-install gettext-0.18.1.1 Re-install libiconv-1.14 Re-install libtool-2.4.2 Re-install m4-1.4.16_1,1 Re-install perl-5.12.4_4 Re-install help2man-1.40.11 Re-install p5-Locale-gettext-1.05_3 Re-install php5-5.4.6 Re-install pcre-8.31 Re-install pkgconf-0.8.7_2 Re-install libxml2-2.7.8_3 Re-install apache-2.2.22_6 Re-install apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-1.4.5.1.3.12_1 Re-install db42-4.2.52_5 Re-install gdbm-1.9.1 Re-install automake-1.12.3 Re-install automake-wrapper-20101119 Re-install python27-2.7.3_3 Re-install expat-2.0.1_2 There is nothing about this in UPDATING, should there? This solved the problem anyway. Bas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
On 09/03/2012 01:26 PM, Darrell Betts wrote: My php pages will no longer render in a web browser after upgrading to php 5.4.6. Used port upgrade to do this. Running apache 2.2.22_6. Checked the error log and this is what I receive [notice] child pid 38232 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) This does this on all php pages. Any idea how to fix this error? Thanks___ I had the same issue on a 8.3-STABLE machine. On other machines php is still at 5.4.3 and does not have this problems. On the machine where 5.4.6 gave the problems I completely removed php and installed lang/php53 (5.3.16) which solved the issue If you are using portmaster -b to update ports, then a backup of the previous port will be in /usr/ports/packages and you can reinstall the previous version Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Error after upgrading to php 5.4.6
On 09/03/2012 03:23 PM, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 13:52:45 +0200 Bas Smeelen articulated: On 09/03/2012 01:26 PM, Darrell Betts wrote: My php pages will no longer render in a web browser after upgrading to php 5.4.6. Used port upgrade to do this. Running apache 2.2.22_6. Checked the error log and this is what I receive [notice] child pid 38232 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) This does this on all php pages. Any idea how to fix this error? I had the same issue on a 8.3-STABLE machine. On other machines php is still at 5.4.3 and does not have this problems. On the machine where 5.4.6 gave the problems I completely removed php and installed lang/php53 (5.3.16) which solved the issue If you are using portmaster -b to update ports, then a backup of the previous port will be in /usr/ports/packages and you can reinstall the previous version I completely removed all traces of PHP from my system, including configuration files, made sure to run make config in each PHP port I intended to install and then installed the latest version of PHP without a single problem. I believe, although I can not prove it, that the problem is not in the PHP port but rather in the update process. Running portmanager with the -p option might take care of some ports not being updated correctly with PHP also. Again, there is nothing wrong with the latest version but rather in the way it is presently running on your system. OK thanks voor the insight, I only checked the extensions.ini file after updating I will go ahead and try it the clean way with version 5.4.6 Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with pkgconf and glib.
On 07/30/12 18:21, Michael Powell wrote: Jeff Tipton wrote: On 07/30/2012 17:19, Christopher Hilton wrote: I'm trying to build emacs with gtk2 on my build box and I'm running into trouble with pkgconf from /usr/ports/devel/pkgconf. The build process dies in devel/gobject-introspection and complains that it cannot find header files for gio-unix-2.0. From what I can see the problem looks like the fact that pkgconf is returning the wrong include path for these header files, running: [snip] I have the same problem with devel/gobject-introspection. It's also a dependecy for Xorg. A couple of days ago devel/pkg-config was removed from ports as deprecated, and replaced with devel/pkgconf, and consequently the build dependencies of many ports were changed. Maybe this recent change is not thoroughly worked out? When I first saw it in UPDATING and did the command I believe it was not completely correct, as it did nothing. That was something on the order of 3 or 4 days ago. Just csup'd today and the command in UPDATING I think contained something slightly different, and is now correct. Before, it did not remove/replace pkg-config. Today it did. Perhaps a ports tree refresh and if using portupgrade do this: portupgrade -fo devel/pkgconf pkg-config-\* This did remove pkg-config and replace it with pkgconf, like I expected it to do 3-4 days ago and didn't. -Mike I had about the same issues on a fresh RELENG_9 laptop wih xfce4, firefox and thunderbird. Just removing pkg-config (pkg_delete -f) then installing pkgconf and do a portmaster --check-depends solved it for me. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?
On 07/17/2012 11:36 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It appears I was mistaken. Care to elaborate? Most people on this list seem to speak highly of SpinRite. first - it is off topic. second - because all commercial software like that are designed for uneducated user, mostly try to automatically do everything. Which is a danger not help. Hi This is an old story. You can look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinRite and the talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ASpinRite http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/steve-gibson-is-a-fraud/ I have never used this tool because dd has always sufficed. Even with an almost end of hardware life (takketaketakke noise generating) disk I have been able to create an image (even with hitting the disk case because heads got stuck) and rescue data from it with plain dd. This has been more then 8 years ago, since then I make sure to always have multiple good back-ups Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.0 LSI MegaRAID SATA problem
On 07/10/2012 12:00 PM, Bosko Radivojevic wrote: Hi, i just forgot to add following output from FreeBSD 8.3: # atacontrol status ar0 ar0: ATA RAID1 status: READY subdisks: 0 ad4 ONLINE 1 ad6 ONLINE Thanks, Bosko Hi Bosko, For FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE see the release notes http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes.html especially Thegraid(8) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=graidsektion=8manpath=FreeBSD+9.0-RELEASEGEOM class has been added. This is a replacement of theataraid(4) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ataraidsektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+9.0-RELEASEdriver supporting various BIOS-based software RAID.[r219974 http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=219974] Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.0 LSI MegaRAID SATA problem
On 07/10/2012 12:11 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: It is always better to use gmirror instead of hardware RAID. One have full control over what is going on mmh not always. Nothing replaces a good hardware RAID card with a BBU for real reason i used parantheses for word hardware. That's clear to me. These hardware raid controllers are not very reliable because they are indeed not real hardware raid controllers, but software based. Maybe for desktop usage it's ok/ good enough? It is better to use the operating systems raid capability linke gmirror instead. Of course real hardware raid controllers with cache and battery backed are a different thing and very reliable. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.0 LSI MegaRAID SATA problem
On 07/10/2012 12:20 PM, Bosko Radivojevic wrote: Hi Bas, thank you for response. 'geom disk list' gives me list of disks, but 'geom raid load;geom raid list' doesn't give anything. I've tried 'geom load mirror', but 'geom mirror list' is also empty. What next? :) Thanks! Hi Bosko, I do not have any experience with these kind of controllers, so I could just guess. What does pciconf -lv produce, looking at the lines for you disk/softraid controller? Look for the device with class = mass storage Maybe it's not fully supported by graid, which would surprise me because graid this is a replacement for ataraid. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.0 LSI MegaRAID SATA problem
On 07/10/2012 12:26 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: That's clear to me. These hardware raid controllers are not very reliable because they are indeed not real hardware raid controllers, but software based. Maybe for desktop usage it's ok/ good enough? precise what is desktop usage is. Here at work we just use non raided disks for workstations which run linux. The home directories are on nfs, so when a disk fails it's replaced very fast by doing a basic install on a new disk or just replacing the disk by a preinstalled disk laying on the shelf here. i don't see a reason for doing mirroring for home use. Me neither, just keep back-ups of important data on a different place/device It is better to use the operating systems raid capability linke gmirror instead. always. Of course real hardware raid controllers with cache and battery backed are a different thing and very reliable. if you have workload where battery backed cache will actually improve things (heavy fsync usage) then yes. otherwise no. i've seen many of them, older, newer, and with same disks i always got at least same performance with FreeBSD software solution. Not talking about RAID5 of which i am not interested at all - there is no reason trading performance for available space nowadays with 2-3TB disks. I have never tries the FreeBSD raid solution as we always have servers with from past to now acc, amr and mfi controllers with raid1 and raid5 in the past mostly used for databases and perl cgi based web applications. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak
On 07/06/2012 06:03 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: I am running FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE (64 bit), with a VirtualBox VM also running the same. On the host I am running NFS server: $ showmount -e Exports list on localhost: /usr/home Everyone But when I try to mount is on the client (the VM guest) I get this: # mount xx:/usr/home /mnt [tcp] xx:/usr/home: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak # Hi Walter Are you root when mounting on the client? From looking at your prompt # I think you are, but I ask just to make sure. You can also take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-nfs.html in the handbook On the server, in /var/log/messages I see this: mountd[29140]: mount request from nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn from unprivileged port So I infer that the 'unprivileged port' bit is the problem. Further information - on the client: $ rpcinfo xx program version netid addressserviceowner 104tcp 0.0.0.0.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 103tcp 0.0.0.0.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 102tcp 0.0.0.0.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 104udp 0.0.0.0.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 103udp 0.0.0.0.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 102udp 0.0.0.0.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 104tcp6 ::.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 103tcp6 ::.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 104udp6 ::.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 103udp6 ::.0.111 rpcbindsuperuser 104local /var/run/rpcbind.sock rpcbindsuperuser 103local /var/run/rpcbind.sock rpcbindsuperuser 102local /var/run/rpcbind.sock rpcbindsuperuser 132udp 0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser 133udp 0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser 132udp6 ::.8.1 nfssuperuser 133udp6 ::.8.1 nfssuperuser 132tcp 0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser 133tcp 0.0.0.0.8.1nfssuperuser 132tcp6 ::.8.1 nfssuperuser 133tcp6 ::.8.1 nfssuperuser 151udp6 ::.2.94mountd superuser 153udp6 ::.2.94mountd superuser 151tcp6 ::.2.94mountd superuser 153tcp6 ::.2.94mountd superuser 151udp 0.0.0.0.2.94 mountd superuser 153udp 0.0.0.0.2.94 mountd superuser 151tcp 0.0.0.0.2.94 mountd superuser 153tcp 0.0.0.0.2.94 mountd superuser $ What am I doing wrong? I am new to NFS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?
On 07/06/2012 07:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote: Ryan Coleman writes: Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated to FreeBSD Except for swap, right? Why do you say that? Robert huff I think Ryan means partition and not slice? I would not recommend no slices at all, It's deprecated to use dangerously dedicated disks Starting with 9 I don't see slices in mount ouput anymore but still there are FreeBSD partitions in slices (which is a partitions in dos terms) Example / is now disk0p1 it used to be disk0s1a Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NFS mount error: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak
On 07/06/2012 07:25 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:55:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: Are you root when mounting on the client? From looking at your prompt # I think you are, but I ask just to make sure. You can also take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network- nfs.html in the handbook Thanks for the reply. Yes, I'm running as root on the client when I try the mount. It was the handbook I was following in my attempt to set up NFS. OK. With -n (allow from non root users) for mountd the mount succeeds although without it doesn't but you are root on the client. The nfs server is use is still 7.4 and I cannot find a difference in the man pages of 7 and 9 mountd and mount_nfs regarding to this issue. In regard to the security implications, I think that we don't want mounts from trusted clients by a non root user who cannot bind to privileged ports, thus deny unprivileged ports. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?
On 07/06/2012 08:25 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:47:27 +0200, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 07/06/2012 07:28 PM, Robert Huff wrote: Ryan Coleman writes: Anyway just don't make slices at all if your disk is dedicated to FreeBSD Except for swap, right? Why do you say that? Robert huff I think Ryan means partition and not slice? I would not recommend no slices at all, It's deprecated to use dangerously dedicated disks First of all, it's dedicated disks, there's nothing dangerous related. :-) Hi Polytropon I got this from the docs somewhere, let me search Ah the FAQ http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#DANGEROUSLY-DEDICATED I don't think it's dangerous either. Thanks for your explanations. If you are using the MBR approach (old way), you can do either creating a DOS primary partition, a slice, which then will contain your partitions: a swap partition and one or more UFS partitions. So you have ad0s1a, ad0s1b and so on. When you omit the slice and create the partitions on the bare disk, you have a dedicated layout. FreeBSD will run with it without any problem. It _may_ be possible that some systems like Windows have trouble with this approach, but if you're going to use FreeBSD only on that disk, there is no danger, no problem. You have ad0a, ad0b and so on. If you are using the GPT approach (new way), you create partitions using a different tool set, setting them to be a file system or a swap partition. You end up in ad0p1, ad0p2 and so on. Note that those aren't DOS primary partitions anymore, outdated systems may not properly recognize them. If you label your partitions (you can do that with both approaches), you don't need to deal with device names at all. Starting with 9 I don't see slices in mount ouput anymore but still there are FreeBSD partitions in slices (which is a partitions in dos terms) Example / is now disk0p1 it used to be disk0s1a Correct, this relation can be constructed. To OP: If you omit the slice and just create two partitions (one for FS and one for swap), FreeBSD will use this fine. Just make sure to set the boot parameters properly. Or simply use the GPT-related tools, so you don't have to deal with the question at all. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does FreeBSD start slices at head boundaries?
On 07/06/2012 09:06 PM, Michael Sierchio wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: Slices isn't the old way. There is no perf advantage for dedicated disks. Maybe you get a few kb of extra space. Don't do it. http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/09.03.shtml That is EXTREMELY old advice. The general advice, for this and many other things, is - don't do it, but if you do it, know what you're doing. ;-) agree, advice: don't use dedicated disks, it might be dangerous if another fdisk silently modifies your disk or the BIOS does not understand it. It's still in the FAQ though :) http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#DANGEROUSLY-DEDICATED Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portmaster embarrassingly simple question (y- option)
On 07/03/2012 12:29 PM, Jakub Lach wrote: === Starting check for runtime dependencies === Gathering dependency list for archivers/unzip from ports === No dependencies for archivers/unzip === Installing package === Installation of archivers/unzip (unzip-6.0_1) succeeded === Delete unzip60.tar.gz? y/n [n] What option do I need to specify with -y to automatically answer those? Hi -d I've tried --clean-distfiles, --clean-packages but it's not it. It usually happens when doing portmaster --packages-build --delete-build-only build. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Uptime [OT]
On 06/15/2012 05:51 AM, Mark Felder wrote: FreeBSD REDACTED 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Wed Nov 15 16:29:10 CST 2006 root@REDACTED:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/IPFW-POLING-ALTQ i386 Theres no way I'm giving out the organization name or hostname haha. We're slowly moving customers away from this device, but not forcing anyone. I wonder if the technician who compiled that kernel considered how long it would run Oh, perhaps this thread should be renamed to Why are you using FreeBSD? to fit in with the others... Nice. Here's another one. Used mainly for imap proxy and ipfw. Too bad it will be moved to another physical location in a week or two. $ uptime 2:38PM up 2266 days, 20:43, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Why am I, Still subscribed and reading this list ?
On 06/02/2012 06:59 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: Because... at some point it may return to normal without all the bikeshedding and, I run because, I don't run because. The previous threads before this message should have been on a web form or questions@ as they are completely out of control. why not to use FreeBSD should go on questions Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ethernet driver HP ProLiant BL460c G7
On 05/16/2012 02:38 PM, Polytropon wrote: HP ProLiant BL460c G7 Maybe this helps http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=24769 Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: System initialization
On 04/19/2012 02:32 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, I think you have had the list twice in the address list. On Thursday 19 April 2012 06:23:26 Brett Glass wrote: Has anyone out there worked on the problem of generating configuration files for important daemons (e.g. mpd, dnscache from are you sure that you really need this dynamically? I believed this too until I realised that a script manually run can do the job for me. I created a central location for my configuration files and let a script do the rest. Of course, it is all static. Erich Hi The people from pfSense have done this very nicely. Maybe you can take a look at how they did this. It has one configuration file which is in xml format. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cacti
On 03/12/2012 12:28 PM, Olafiranye Olakunle wrote: What Commands to restart cacti ?please. Kunle ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org There is no command to restart cacti. Data is gathered by the script poller.php which runs as a cronjob and the interface to cacti graphs is available via apache webserver. Maybe you want to restart apache? apachectl (re)start or /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 (re)start this is for apache 2.2.x Kind regards Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network interface aliasing?
On 03/07/2012 03:39 PM, Brent Clark wrote: Hiya I would like to ask. Is it possible to, do network interface aliasing. Im not talking about ip aliasing. I basically want to bind one process to network interface vr0:0 and another process to vr0:1. What do you want to accomplish? Processes usually listen on adresses or sockets Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Network interface aliasing?
On 03/07/2012 04:24 PM, Mikel King wrote: On 3/7/12 9:39 AM, Brent Clark wrote: Hiya I would like to ask. Is it possible to, do network interface aliasing. Im not talking about ip aliasing. I basically want to bind one process to network interface vr0:0 and another process to vr0:1. Thanks Brent Brent, You can rename an interface to just about anything you wish. If the process allows for interface binding then you can use that new name. http://jafdip.com/index.php/2008/09/08/renaming-ethernet-interfaces-under-freebsd-7x/ This gives the interface a different name. It does not create an alias name for the interface as far as I understand. Kind regards, Bas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9, GPT and gmirror
On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:42:59 -0500 Janos Dohanics w...@3dresearch.com wrote: Hello Everyone, May be I should have searched more for answers, but after installing FreeBSD 9 with gmirror, I am wondering if the experts here have some recommendations for best practices. 1. The Guided partitioning doesn't suggest any more to create /var, /tmp, /usr, etc. file systems. Is it really the recommendation to go with just / ? This is a bad recommendation I think, but you can accept guidance and the adjust to your needs. 2. Is there a way to use the old sysinstall to install FreeBSD 9? Yes, harder to use, or no the new installer should have some more sane defaults 3. It seems that setting up gmirror is more involved with GPT (http://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/1071); now I have a mirror for each of the filesystems /, /var, /tmp, etc. Is it OK to use gmirror in this way at all? 4. Also, with GPT, one has to be in single user mode to synchronize disks - correct? 3. Assuming one has enough RAM, is zfs mirror or raidz recommended over gmirror? gmirror, still I think Prior to FreeBSD 9, I used to take the the sysinstall defaults with some overrides as I thought appropriate and proceeded to set up gmirror - it was simple and not a lot of work, and a good way to make use of older systems... I think the new installer is quite good, but needs some shaving around the rough edges Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: *portupgrade -PP -a *portmaster -PP -a *pkg_update All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an unuseable state. What's unusable? For instance, servers are perfectly usable without graphical tools. If you have tried `endlessly` why didn't you consult /usr/ports/UPDATING and just recompile the ports without using binary packages? Or you might want to try PCBSD, it's FreeBSD with some fancy stuff taken care of which might solve the problem you complain about. Why can't FreeBSD just make the package system just work. Right after installing FreeBSD I should be able to type a single command such as update_packages and it should update all packages on the system, with no errors and without requiring any configurations to be troubleshooted, it should work out of the box. Why not? Why is something so simple so difficult and impossible? Ubuntu can do it, why not FreeBSD? FreeBSD unlike Ubuntu is an entirely volunteer project. Ubuntu has a dedicated corporation working on it and I guess a larger user base. Why cant FreeBSD Just make the package upgrades work. Because uh well it's not up to FreeBSD since the ports work perfectly with the documentation that comes with it or it might depend on the user base also, but _you_ can help to make binary package upgrades work better. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:56 -0500 David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: *portupgrade -PP -a *portmaster -PP -a *pkg_update All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an unuseable state. What's unusable? For instance, servers are perfectly usable without graphical tools. If you have tried `endlessly` why didn't you consult /usr/ports/UPDATING and just recompile the ports without using binary packages? Or you might want to try PCBSD, it's FreeBSD with some fancy stuff taken care of which might solve the problem you complain about. I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs and would rather install some packages and have it all work right away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS. I understand your motivations. On my 1,6GHz celeron it takes a lot of time to compile the ~600 ports I use, especially chromium for instance and when I forget to give an option to not bother me with questions it sits there waiting for me to enter y or n. Ports/ packages are not `a basic part` of the FreeBSD OS. I also don't think it is simple and straight forward to satisfy all different user requirements and options in a package system. Ubuntu for my taste has had flukes in many ways many times in the past and still has (often enough the developers desktop users complain). It works good with complete upgrades at times, on the other hand it still leaves me sometimes with an unusable freezing OS on the desktop, and before every upgrade it has becomes mandatory to me to first try it with an USB boot. This is something I cannot have on server systems being used 24x7. Why can't FreeBSD just make the package system just work. Right after installing FreeBSD I should be able to type a single command such as update_packages and it should update all packages on the system, with no errors and without requiring any configurations to be troubleshooted, it should work out of the box. Why not? Why is something so simple so difficult and impossible? Ubuntu can do it, why not FreeBSD? FreeBSD unlike Ubuntu is an entirely volunteer project. Ubuntu has a dedicated corporation working on it and I guess a larger user base. The reason that FreeBSD has a smaller user base is because it has a dysfunctional package system and it is hard to upgrade package to the most recent version, making FreeBSD more difficult to use/ But doing a workable package system is not difficult, it something that FreeBSD should be easily able to make it easy to have a way to upgrade packages to most recent versions out of box anbd in an error free and reliable way. Why cant FreeBSD Just make the package upgrades work. Because uh well it's not up to FreeBSD since the ports work perfectly with the documentation that comes with it or it might depend on the user base also, but _you_ can help to make binary package upgrades work better. A working package system is a part of any good operating system and saves time from having to compile programs. It is more convenient for most users to use packages so having a package system will make FreeBSD more popular. the reason freebsd is not used by as many people as Ubuntu is because of the extreme difficulty and unreliability of using FreeBSD. Well, if you are talking about desktop work places, you're probably right. This is what PCBSD is for, or even Ubuntu or other 'Operating Systems' On servers however FreeBSD is extremely reliable. It requires the operator to take care of the system, OS updates and upgrades are rock solid for decades and application (ports/ packages) updates/ upgrades require the operator to evaluate the changes in detail. I have had a lot of trouble by the ease of upgrade/ update on other 'OS' applications which I did not encounter on FreeBSD because FreeBSD required me to think about what I was doing and then it goes well the first time. FreeBSD does not HAVE to make the system reasonably easy to use for common users who want to install packages, but it would be the right thing to do, especially if FreeBSD wants more users. Again PCBSD might be an option. It depends on what kind of users. Users who think and can rely on a rock solid OS or users who just upgrade/ update and then sit with failing application services, database changes and so on, because they did not read
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:56 -0500 David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:52:07 -0500 David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: *portupgrade -PP -a *portmaster -PP -a *pkg_update All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an unuseable state. What's unusable? For instance, servers are perfectly usable without graphical tools. If you have tried `endlessly` why didn't you consult /usr/ports/UPDATING and just recompile the ports without using binary packages? Or you might want to try PCBSD, it's FreeBSD with some fancy stuff taken care of which might solve the problem you complain about. I wish to use binary packages and I specifically do not want to compile anything, it tends to take far too long to compile programs and would rather install some packages and have it all work right away. Binary packages are a big time saver and are more efficient. It should be easy for FreeBSD to make it easy to install the most recent versions of all binary packages, its beyond belief they cannot pull off such a simple ans straight forward, and basic part of any OS. I understand your motivations. On my 1,6GHz celeron it takes a lot of time to compile the ~600 ports I use, especially chromium for instance and when I forget to give an option to not bother me with questions it sits there waiting for me to enter y or n. Ports/ packages are not `a basic part` of the FreeBSD OS. I also don't think it is simple and straight forward to satisfy all different user requirements and options in a package system. Ubuntu for my taste has had flukes in many ways many times in the past and still has (often enough the developers desktop users complain). It works good with complete upgrades at times, on the other hand it still leaves me sometimes with an unusable freezing OS on the desktop, and before every upgrade it has becomes mandatory to me to first try it with an USB boot. This is something I cannot have on server systems being used 24x7. Why can't FreeBSD just make the package system just work. Right after installing FreeBSD I should be able to type a single command such as update_packages and it should update all packages on the system, with no errors and without requiring any configurations to be troubleshooted, it should work out of the box. Why not? Why is something so simple so difficult and impossible? Ubuntu can do it, why not FreeBSD? FreeBSD unlike Ubuntu is an entirely volunteer project. Ubuntu has a dedicated corporation working on it and I guess a larger user base. The reason that FreeBSD has a smaller user base is because it has a dysfunctional package system and it is hard to upgrade package to the most recent version, making FreeBSD more difficult to use/ But doing a workable package system is not difficult, it something that FreeBSD should be easily able to make it easy to have a way to upgrade packages to most recent versions out of box anbd in an error free and reliable way. Why cant FreeBSD Just make the package upgrades work. Because uh well it's not up to FreeBSD since the ports work perfectly with the documentation that comes with it or it might depend on the user base also, but _you_ can help to make binary package upgrades work better. A working package system is a part of any good operating system and saves time from having to compile programs. It is more convenient for most users to use packages so having a package system will make FreeBSD more popular. the reason freebsd is not used by as many people as Ubuntu is because of the extreme difficulty and unreliability of using FreeBSD. Well, if you are talking about desktop work places, you're probably right. This is what PCBSD is for, or even Ubuntu or other 'Operating Systems' On servers however FreeBSD is extremely reliable. It requires the operator to take care of the system, OS updates and upgrades are rock solid for decades and application (ports/ packages) updates/ upgrades require the operator to evaluate the changes in detail. I have had a lot of trouble by the ease of upgrade/ update on other 'OS' applications which I did not encounter on FreeBSD because FreeBSD required me to think about what I was doing and then it goes well the first time. FreeBSD does not HAVE to make the system reasonably easy to use for common users who want to install packages, but it would be the right thing to do, especially if FreeBSD wants more users. Again PCBSD might be an option. It depends on what kind of users. Users who think and can rely on a rock solid OS or users who just upgrade/ update and then sit with failing application services, database changes
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:02:44 +0100 Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:04:56 -0500 David Jackson djackson...@gmail.com wrote: To put it bluntly It's the users fault from my own experience Apple: just fsck off Mcrsft and Oracle and whom they have swallowed so far: just pay enough bucks, it's still your fault wait for the next update Ubuntu: just be rude on the mail-lists, wait for the next update or get involved FreeBSD: you could have known, RTFM! or get involved it's just as easy with the FM Netherlands: Bowmore Islay and others others are fore sale this week :) Damn laptop is still compiling Would be nice if there were stills compiling something else Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Dual Booting Linux with FreeBSD 9.0 - Grub in MBR
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:32:10 +
Kaya Saman kayasa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
am just wondering if anyone has successfully managed to boot FreeBSD
9.0 and Linux.
I run Fedora 16 x64 with Grub installed in my MBR.
FBSD9 installed as the new disk scheme GPT. I think (I manually
partitioned as my disk is quite crowded).
Anyway I found this:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-October/234858.html
and at the moment I have this in my Grub config:
menuentry 'FreeBSD 9.0' {
set root=(ada0,1,a)
kfreebsd /boot/loader
boot
}
But unfortunately no boot :-(
I have tried using (hd0,0), (hd0,1,a), (hd0,0,a), and (hd0,a) but
unfortunately nothing is working.
The Grub version is 2.
Can anyone help me?
Hi
I have the following partition layout
P1 linux swap
P2 FreeBSD
P3 linux
P4 extended which holds 2 more linux partitions
FreeBSD 9 installed on P2 and the FreeBSD bootloader on P2
In /etc/grub.d/40_custom I have put the following:
menuentry FreeBSD {
set root=(hd0,2)
chainloader +1
}
Then run update-grub as root.
The (hd0,2) entry means first harddisk (this laptop only has one) and
the second partition, which holds the FreeBSD bootloader that gets
loaded with the enry chainloader +1.
This works for me. Hope it helps.
I think with the way you have the setup now, a module must be loaded
first in the grub config. Insmod ufs or similair.
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Re: upgrade from 8.2 to 9.0
On 01/13/2012 02:42 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: I possible I want my server to upgrade from 8.2-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE. I guess the binary upgrade will not be a problem with freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE fetch If so, I do like to hear the caveats. My main problem lies with the installed ports. I know the -all- have to be recompiled, but I don't know an easy way for this job. I always use portmaster. Do I have to make a list manually for all installed ports? Or is there a procedure to follow in this matter? I'd like to get some pointers if possible. Thanks. _ It works great with source upgrade, so freebsd-update should not be a problem but i haven't used it yet to upgrade to 9. It is used like this: freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE upgrade (i.e. not fetch) See also the handbook for a good explanation You can use portmaster --list-origins to make a list of all root and leaf ports and use this to reinstall all ports after the upgrade. See man portmaster for a good example. Or you can use portmaster -af to recompile all ports. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.0-STABLE custom kernel interrupt storm irq10
Hi all, After updating the sources to 9.0-STABLE and building a custom kernel I get a interrupt storm on irq10, from messages I get that different devices use irq10. It starts after loading ums0 and wlan0 and ath0 times out then. Rebuilding the GENERIC kernel en booting does not give this interrupt storm. In the messages from GENERIC I see that the devices sing irq10 with the custom kernel use different irq,s What device or option did I comment out in the custom kernel that triggers this? In /etc/make.conf I have MODULES_OVERRIDE= cd9660 cd9660_iconv msdosfs msdosfs_iconv linux linprocfs so only the modules I (might) use are being build. The uname -a without this problem $ uname -a FreeBSD mpw 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #0: Sat Jan 7 12:41:51 CET 2012 root@mpw:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd01793 2 irq9: acpi021373 27 irq14: ata010404 13 irq18: ath0 uhci2 17219 22 irq19: uhci1 10129 13 irq20: hpet0 cbb0 156521202 irq23: uhci0 ehci0 2 0 irq256: hdac0 2020 2 Total 219461283 This is with the GENERIC kernel, nothing is using irq10. Below you find output of pciconf, the custom kernel config and output of messages. Thanks in advance $ pciconf -lv hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x06 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27a08086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27a28086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display subclass = VGA vgapci1@pci0:0:2:1: class=0x038000 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27a68086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller' class = display hdac0@pci0:0:27:0: class=0x040300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d88086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller' class = multimedia subclass = HDA pcib1@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d08086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib2@pci0:0:28:1: class=0x060400 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d28086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 2' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI pcib3@pci0:0:28:2: class=0x060400 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27d48086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 3' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI uhci0@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27c88086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci1@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27c98086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci2@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27ca8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB uhci3@pci0:0:29:3: class=0x0c0300 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27cb8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB ehci0@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27cc8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = 'N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller' class = serial bus subclass = USB pcib4@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x01101025 chip=0x24488086 rev=0xe2 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801 Mobile PCI Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x01101025 chip=0x27b98086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA atapci0@pci0:0:31:1:class=0x01018a card=0x01101025 chip=0x27df8086 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller' class = mass storage subclass = ATA
Re: 9.0-STABLE custom kernel interrupt storm irq10
On Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:17:01 +0100 Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: Hi all, After updating the sources to 9.0-STABLE and building a custom kernel I get a interrupt storm on irq10, from messages I get that different devices use irq10. It starts after loading ums0 and wlan0 and ath0 times out then. I guess device apic is mandatory Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apparently conflicting smartctl output
On 01/06/2012 03:39 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Bas Smeelen wrote: I have had this with a drive and multiple read errors would not remap the sector. With write errors the sector would be remapped. This was a new Samsung laptop drive though, not a Western Digital. That's standard. Sectors are only remapped to spares on a write error. To get the sector remapped I had to fully write the drive and it was ok after that. Just writing to the sector should be enough. Of course, when one sector goes bad, others often follow. I just hope it does not develop more bad sectors. From what I read on the Bad block HOWTO for smartmontools on sourceforge it's not trivial to just write to that sector and also it would destroy the filesystem? So I just copied a big iso file several times untill the sector got remapped, the disk was almost full then. This is a brand new disk, maybe I should return it under warranty then, though it did not develop more bad sectors? Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apparently conflicting smartctl output
On 01/06/2012 04:37 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 01/06/2012 03:39 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Bas Smeelen wrote: I have had this with a drive and multiple read errors would not remap the sector. With write errors the sector would be remapped. This was a new Samsung laptop drive though, not a Western Digital. That's standard. Sectors are only remapped to spares on a write error. To get the sector remapped I had to fully write the drive and it was ok after that. Just writing to the sector should be enough. Of course, when one sector goes bad, others often follow. I just hope it does not develop more bad sectors. That's the worrying thing. Was it just a loose flake of oxide, or was it a strip that peeled off the disk? No way to know I guess From what I read on the Bad block HOWTO for smartmontools on sourceforge it's not trivial to just write to that sector and also it would destroy the filesystem? Finding the right block may not be too hard. /var/log/messages should show the block number, but then I don't know what tool is available to write to that specific block. Tools like that are not common because generally, growing bad sectors means the drive is starting to fail anyway. I could use dd if=/dev/random of=file seek=blocks_to_skip bs=100M the next time So I just copied a big iso file several times untill the sector got remapped, the disk was almost full then. This is a brand new disk, maybe I should return it under warranty then, though it did not develop more bad sectors? If possible, yes. It already lost some data. I'll talk to the supplier anyway when more bad sectors occur Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apparently conflicting smartctl output
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 12:32:14 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 01/06/2012 04:37 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 01/06/2012 03:39 PM, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Bas Smeelen wrote: I have had this with a drive and multiple read errors would not remap the sector. With write errors the sector would be remapped. This was a new Samsung laptop drive though, not a Western Digital. I could use dd if=/dev/random of=file seek=blocks_to_skip bs=100M the next time Yes, if you're not worried about existing data. But use /dev/zero (faster and you can verify the value) and bs=1M count=100 (ties up only 1M of buffer space). Thanks a lot. This was always confusing me, now I know! Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
[OT] re: Realtek RTL8191SEvB Linux driver?
to Jerry at seibercom.net weapons make a polite society http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/11138983/__Van_Uhm_is_wereldhit__.html there's no free piss it's recycled money for water/beer/juice/whatever Cheers Bas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Apparently conflicting smartctl output
On 01/05/2012 08:56 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Janos Dohanics wrote: - Do I have a bad hard drive (apparently, I do...) - Why are there No Errors Logged by smartctl? You've probably got a bad sector on the drive, anyway. The SMART error log is a funny thing governed by various drive's firmware which have quirks. Some of 'em only have a self-test log, but don't store the error log at all; others will only record an error after they've given up trying to remap a failing sector. You snipped too much of the smartctl output to see what the Error logging capability section says-- the full output would be more informative. You almost certainly want to do a full read-scan of the drive via dd if=/dev/ad4 of=/dev/null bs=64k, which will help the drive notice any other failing sectors. Repeat dd if it aborts early with an error (or add conv=noerror, maybe). Regards, Hi, I have had this with a drive and multiple read errors would not remap the sector. With write errors the sector would be remapped. This was a new Samsung laptop drive though, not a Western Digital. To get the sector remapped I had to fully write the drive and it was ok after that. For now no bad sectors have been showing up Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Browser
On 01/04/2012 01:17 PM, Daniel Lewis wrote: Im running Free BSD 8.2 and was wondering whats a good web browser for version 8.2? Where and how would we install it? ( Im really new to unix) Thanks, Daniel Lewis Hi Daniel, It depends on your preferences. You can read up on: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html I like Midori a lot and the default Gnome browser Epiphany. If you have the flash plugin installed like explained in de document link, both will also play video's. Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Browser
On 01/04/2012 01:59 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From:Daniel Lewis innervisionnetw...@gmail.com Date:Wed, 4 Jan 2012 07:17:47 -0500 Message-id: cahsizg-op0mo79qawg2grlyleatkcip8iabq+0ayqvk7idz...@mail.gmail.com Daniel Lewis wrote: Im running Free BSD 8.2 and was wondering whats a good web browser for version 8.2? Where and how would we install it? ( Im really new to unix) su cd /usr/ports/www/firefox ; make install This fetches then builds from source code Or to install binaries man pkg_add Cheers, Julian To follow up. Midori and Epiphany are not explained in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html as root: cd /usr/ports/www/midori make install clean Epiphany comes with the gnome desktop environment, which is mentioned in the Handbook also. I don't use/install the Java plugin, only flash Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation
On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote: Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism || jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing list. It's not like political/ religious mailing lists don't exist. My positivist take on things: 1. Nobody is stopping anybody from changing their freebsd kernel. The same cannot be said of MS Windows. Documentation is an excuse. FreeBSD is very well documented! I guess a lot of people can't cope with how structured and professional it is. They are used to chaos, fear, uncertainty and doubt and feel comfortable that way. 2. FreeBsd is a main-stream O/S-- just look at the number of different architectures/applications which are supported by FreeBSD. Main stream and top player for web and internet servers 3. FreeBSD isn't even hard to use, if you only want to use it like 80% of computer users, to run your web browser, watch videos and listen to music. People who consider it difficult might like to remember their first experiences with learning windows. I guess PCBSD is easier and better for the average desktop user, those guys do a good job at this! FreeBSD is the easiest to use for me on servers and even on the desktop but I still have a linux ubuntu desktop though To get a good desktop going without initial internet connection it is a daunting task on FreeBSD 4. Drivers aren't really a limitation. Look at the history of computing, that modern O/S support such diverse platforms is an amazing development. As far as I'm concerned, FreeBSD supports main stream components, there are no classes of components that I'm aware of which aren't supported by FreeBSD. If you need to use a particular device, for which there is no driver, historically it's not unusual to find that on any particular platform a particular device is not supported. It supports most things except the things you wouldn't want anyway 5. Nobody is making anyone use FreeBSD. It's free. If you don't enjoy it, don't use it. Maybe remove yourself from the mailing list-- or don't, if you just want to stay informed. If you don't like it, please leave, there are a lot of alternatives Normative takes: 6. Is FreeBSD better than windows? For me it is. For me it's stabler. What I remember from using windows, and what I'm aware of, from people around me who use windows is that over time, the system seems to degrade. This leads to really major actions such as re-installation every 6mths or so. And... It is! 7. The temptation to install illegal software on MS Windows is very high. Who wants to pay for every little gimmicky app? Who can afford to pay for some major applications, which are needed for studying etc.? This often leads to an unstable system and security problems. The ports system in comparison is a much preferred software/ application distribution system because at least you get to look at the source code, if you want to. Most windows users and professionals I know are plane thieves, it is just easy for hem to get away with it. It's not my cup -o- joe and I refuse to be like that, no illegal software for me. 8. It's an individual choice. Depends what you use your computer for. maths/R is one of my favorite applications and it even runs on windows. It's all about choice and I'd rather learn from history than repeat it over and over May the force be with you! Use the force Luke, read the source :) Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.3RC3: halt
Hi folks, Another question I wasn't able to answer proper to my self. I recognized that the system is not turning of by default after typing halt, but waiting in some kind of standby for reboot. Is this wished behavior or maybe related to some local config/hardware? Cheers, Frank Hi Frank, halt does not power off the system. halt -p does. See man halt Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.3RC3: halt
Hi folks, Another question I wasn't able to answer proper to my self. READ THE MANPAGE. I guess he just did :) This is -standard- behavior. Has been so for many releases. Indeed Have great holidays and/or if you care merry Christmas If you want the machine to turn the power off, you must use the proper option for that behavior. halt -p Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fw: Merry Christmas from the FreeBSD Security Team
_ From: FreeBSD Security Officer [mailto:cperc...@freebsd.org] To: freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org Sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 16:41:20 +0100 Subject: Merry Christmas from the FreeBSD Security Team -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, No, the Grinch didn't steal the FreeBSD security officer GPG key, and your eyes aren't deceiving you: We really did just send out 5 security advisories. The timing, to put it bluntly, sucks. We normally aim to release advisories on Wednesdays in order to maximize the number of system administrators who will be at work already; and we try very hard to avoid issuing advisories any time close to holidays for the same reason. The start of the Christmas weekend -- in some parts of the world it's already Saturday -- is absolutely not when we want to be releasing security advisories. Unfortunately my hand was forced: One of the issues (FreeBSD-SA-11:08.telnetd) is a remote root vulnerability which is being actively exploited in the wild; bugs really don't come any worse than this. On the positive side, most people have moved past telnet and on to SSH by now; but this is still not an issue we could postpone until a more convenient time. While I'm writing, a note to freebsd-update users: FreeBSD-SA-11:07.chroot has a rather messy fix involving adding a new interface to libc; this has the awkward side effect of causing the sizes of some symbols (aka. functions) in libc to change, resulting in cascading changes into many binaries. The long list of updated files is irritating, but isn't a sign that anything in freebsd-update went wrong. - -- Colin Percival Security Officer, FreeBSD | freebsd.org | The power to serve Founder / author, Tarsnap | tarsnap.com | Online backups for the truly paranoid -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk70oR8ACgkQFdaIBMps37IHEwCeNT8dws04qyJ8yuOz7g2xd9Xs IsoAn0QfaSE6i90zFBuk1k0isvrDMYO3 =p94J -END PGP SIGNATURE- merry Christmas Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.3RC3: halt
_ From: Damien Fleuriot [mailto:m...@my.gd] To: Bas Smeelen [mailto:b.smee...@ose.nl] Sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 17:49:04 +0100 Subject: Re: 9.3RC3: halt I do like your company's email disclaimer. At least it doesn't pretend to PROHIBIT recipients from doing anything when it has no legal leg to stand on, it merely asks nicely. Makes for a nice change. happy xmasThanks Damien My employer still does not approve and does not understand my explanation that a disclaimer is just plain bullshit. I still put this in to keep him quiet :) Happy Christmas to you too and have great holidays Bas p.s. I cc'd questions because I like your comment and more people could do it this way, thanks very much Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Perl Upgrade And Mailscanner Woes
On 12/21/2011 03:59 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Almost every time there is a perl upgrade, it manages to break Mailscanner even after running perl-after-upgrade. The solution ends up being a reinstall of Mailscanner, but this is a real pain, because you have to delete and reinstall every dependent perl package used by Mailscanner. Does anyone have a better way? Hi After a major perl upgrade? portmaster -r perl- portmaster p5- portupgrade -fr perl Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.0-PRERELEASE slow scp transfer
Hi I have a stange thing. 1. 7.3-RELEASE-p2 on dell poweredge SC440 with bge nic 2. 9.0-PRERELEASE on another dell poweredge SC440 bge nic 3. 7.4-RELEASE-p4 in a vmware virtual machine with em nic When i copy a file with scp which is a few hundred megabytes on 1. from 2. or from 3. i get about 10MB/s When i copy a filewith scpwhich is a few hundred megabytes on 3. from 1. or from 2. i get about 10MB/s When i copy a file with scpwhich is a few hundred megabytes on2. from 3.i get about 10MB/s When i copy a file with scp which is a few hundred megabytes on2. from 1.i get about 130 KB/s I can find nothing in the logs or netstat errors on this 9.0-PRERELEASE box. I have switched network kabels and ports on the switch. How could i further investigate? Thanks in advance Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: can't find installed executables
On 10/11/2011 11:09 AM, Jim jim wrote: Hallo, I'm kind of new to FreeBSD and installed the latest version a few days ago, it gave me the option to install some packages and I chose some of them like 'FlightGear' for example.But now I don't know how to execute this game or any other program I got installed. I can find the folder and it's like /usr/ports/games/flightgear but there is the Makefile so I think that is the installation folder and i also tried to install it but than it shows me that it is already installed.Could you tell me which one is the executable and how to run it or where I can find it? Hope you can help me with this. Yours Sincerely Jim van Dooren. Hi Jim, Ports (and packages) are installed under /usr/local For Flightgear for example in de ports directory you mention /usr/ports/games/flightgear there is a file pkg-plist which contains a list of files that are installed by this port. If you have done a rehash after installing then the binary should be found in your path. Good luck. This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fw: 8.2-RELEASE-amd64.iso weirdness (help!)
On 08/03/2011 09:06 AM, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: I ran dd and zeroed out the entire first gigabyte of space on the drive, yet grub was still there! I couldn't believe it. I'm on the verge now of just zeroing out the entire drive. Hate to have to resort to such a ridiculously extreme method, but at this point, there seems to be little else left to try. The unfortunate thing is that, after all these repeated failures, I then have to go back and reinstall Ubuntu Linux to get back online, post questions, do further investigation, etc. Very time-consuming. You can just run a live cd or usb to get online This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to deny getting static ip address via pf ?
On 07/26/2011 12:44 PM, Yavuz Maşlak wrote: Hello I use pf on freebsd as packet filter. I have a wireless area. The users get to the internet using automatic ip from the dhcp server. I wish to deny to assign a static ip address by manual. How can I do that with pf or ipfw or another thing? thanks Hi You cannot deny a client to set a static IP address on the client machine, except when you have control over the client machine. You can allow access with pf or ipfw only for the DHCP address range you give out to clients and for static addresses you may have configured yourself on some network devices that need access. If your firewall defaults to deny (default) all other IP addresses are denied, otherwise deny those addresses. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: IPFW
On 07/25/2011 09:36 AM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: Dear group, Is there a web driven configuration for ipfw after I installed it on my server? webmin /usr/ports/sysutils/webmin/ the BSD Firewall module http://www.webmin.com/standard.html DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: finding kernel 'r' number
On 06/16/2011 02:28 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:16:45 -0400 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: For some time now, people have been referring to what build they're using by the 'r' number, which I believe to be part of svn. How would one go about determining this value for the installed kernel? I'm not sure you can: the revision only shows up if you have svn installed (devel/subversion-freebsd) and have built the kernel from code checked out from the svn server. You might want to read: http://wiki.freebsd.org/SubversionPrimer DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: finding kernel 'r' number
On 06/16/2011 02:32 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: That would be uname(1): $ uname -v FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r223017: Sun Jun 12 13:55:34 CDT 2011 root@m6500.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC where r223017 is the current svn revision number from which my system is compiled (kernel and userland). Does this only apply if you checkout with svn ? I run current on a machine, update with csup and have get r number with uname DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A possibly odd upgrade question
On 05/20/2011 03:58 AM, Chris Brennan wrote: On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: Yes, the recommended order. :-) One last question ... hopefully lol. am I going to run into any issues w/ the default fbsd6 layout? [root@Ziggy [~]# df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a496M328M128M72%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad0s1e496M234K456M 0%/tmp /dev/ad0s1f 33G5.7G 25G19%/usr /dev/ad0s1d1.3G1.0G226M82%/var /dev/ad1s1d 54G8.9G 41G18%/usr/home /dev/ad6s1 74G 61G 13G82%/mnt/music linprocfs 4.0K4.0K 0B 100%/usr/compat/linux/proc [root@Ziggy [~]# What I think I failed to previously mention is that this machine started out with fbsd6.x, was upgraded many times from 6x though 7.1 where it fell into disuse. With my recent repurpose of this box ... I'm concerned that it might be a moot point if base won't fit on rot root slice. It can fit, however don't build the kernel with debug symbols and move or remove the current debug symbol files of your kernel. See below, our development box. It has GENERIC with debug symbol files, a kernel.old and a kernel without debug symbols on /boot which is on the / partition FreeBSD dev.ose.nl 7.4-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 18 23:05:18 CET 2011 free...@dev.ose.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DEV amd64 dev:/home/Freebee #df -h Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a496M295M162M65%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/da0s1e7.7G642K7.1G 0%/tmp /dev/da0s1f135G 46G 78G37%/usr /dev/da0s1d7.7G1.1G6.0G16%/var -- Systeembeheerder OverNite Software Europe BV Dr. Nolenslaan 157 6136 GM Sittard THE NETHERLANDS phone: +31464200933 fax: +31464200934 web: http://www.ose.nl DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: BTX loader - cant find sources
On 03/25/2011 09:18 AM, Andi Anton wrote: Hi guys, Can you tell me, please, where can I found the sources for the freeBSD BTX bootloader? Hi If you have the sources installed, it's in /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/btx/btxldr/ I guess I have some BIOS SATA hdd detection problems (the BTX loader hangs just ater it founds the hdd) and I want to recompile and debug the BTX loader in order to fix my problem. Thanks in advance, phpwolf DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD is KIX (super)
Thank you all FreeBSD people I use to keep the servers up to date and have a custom kernel, but some don't need this! FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 $ uptime 6:14PM up 1812 days, 1:51, 1 user, load averages: 0.13, 0.03, 0.01 $ uname -a FreeBSD mail.xxx.nl 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov 3 09:36:13 UTC 2005 r...@x64.samsco.home:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ It has a nice ipfw and provides some http sites, ssl smtp, mysql and imapproxy for about 100 users roaming throughout the world :) cheers DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote: A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes harder (memory loss)... Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a regular basis? Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer almost every aspect of your servers with it. Also you might want to take a look at: http://www.freebsdforums.org/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers? Do you all work directly on the consoles? Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely? It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and services from the commandline with ssh. Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. This is what I tend to roll-out for other (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: lost network during freebsd-update install
On 03/10/2011 01:52 PM, Tom Worster wrote: i was upgrading a remote machine from 7.1 to 8.1 with freebsd-update. the freebsd-update -r 8.1-RELEASE upgrade phase was complete and i had given: # freebsd-update install Installing updates... when the wifi on my local computer went away. eventually i restarted the wifi interface but the ssh session didn't recover. i don't know if the freebsd-update command completed or not. or how to find out. and if it did not, what to do next. i'd be most grateful for any help. tom You should be able to connect to your server (new ssh session) because at this stage freebsd-update is installing the new kernel. Then just repeat the freebsd-update install step and you should be fine and continue with it following the steps listed in the handbook Also screen (1) can be your friend for doing things on remote servers. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/10/2011 01:46 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 03/10/2011 12:35 PM, Juan C. Valido wrote: A GUI on a server is just a matter of preference, I go back to before Dos 1.0 and when Windows came out, I fell in love. Now I've got to have a GUI on everything, besides as you get older the command line becomes harder (memory loss)... On the other hand, you might want to try PC-BSD. I think it is very well supported and up to date and comes with GUI parts and the option to install as FreeBSD Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a regular basis? Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer almost every aspect of your servers with it. Also you might want to take a look at: http://www.freebsdforums.org/plesk-cpanel-dedicated-servers/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers? Do you all work directly on the consoles? Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely? It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and services from the commandline with ssh. Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. This is what I tend to roll-out for other (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: lost network during freebsd-update install
On 03/10/2011 02:37 PM, Tom Worster wrote: freebsd-update install Installing updates...Bad system call (core dumped) But your server is running and other services are ok? Is your kernel still 7.1 ? I guess it should be. (uname -a) Looks like either a newer version of freebsd-update already got installed which is not compatible with some library or the other way around. I have never gone from 7.1 to 8.1 directly and I haven't lost my connection during the updates. Does freebsd-update rollback work? I guess maybe not but it's worth a try. Then it's time to dive into the exact workings of freebsd-update when going from 7.1 to 8.1 I guess. BTW Yes I mean sysutils/screen DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: lost network during freebsd-update install
On 03/10/2011 03:03 PM, Tom Worster wrote: at this stage, i have no remote access. even if i could gain access, i wouldn't know what state it's in or how to proceed. it's probably best now to pay for the hosting company to install 8.1 from cd. Well if this is an option. But before paying and with a bit of bad luck getting the same problem in 8.1 it would be nice to know what's the cause. You do not have remote console access and a way to mount a virtual cdrom? It sounds more like kernel and userland are not in sync or something else. This shouldn't be a problem caused by freeb-update though. Maybe someone has a clue about this? Is this on real hardware or hosted in a virtual machine setup? I haven't have this happen with about 30 servers the last three years going from 6 to 7 and to 8, the latter with freebsd-update, rebooting with GENERIC and then building a custom kernel. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: lost network during freebsd-update install
On 03/10/2011 04:24 PM, Tom Worster wrote: before resorting to cd. Hi, I've read your last post, this sucks. I missed a point which you have thought about (see below) The best thing would have been either rollback or reboot and continue, see below. the handbook describes a procedure: A) 1st freebsd-update install: The kernel and kernel modules will be patched B) reboot C) 2nd freebsd-update install: The state of the process has been saved and thus,freebsd-update will not start from the beginning, but will remove all old shared libraries and object files i'm just guessing... A) did not complete because its shell exited. i was left with a half-patched kernel. when i did freebsd-update install again, instead of doing A) over from scratch, it attempted C) and started dumping cores all over the carpet. result: system can't get the kernel up properly. or another guess... A) did complete while i was disconnected. when i repeated freebsd-update install it attempted C) but because the old kernel was still running it didn't work and started dumping cores all over the carpet. result: system hangs attempting to start some userland part. I guess you're right here. When ssh disconnects the shell does not immediatly exit, it takes some minutes. So freebsd-update succesfully installed the kernel and when you got connected again and ran install the second time it tried to install a new userland on top of the old running kernel which in case of this major version upgrade did not work. Why so much stuff is missing though is not clear to me, I would think that freebsd-update just overwrites the old binaries. it seems a pity now that freebsd-update chose to use the same command verb for both A and C. It would be nice if freebsd-update had the same command sequence (without the build parts) as in a source upgrade. First fetch of course, then freebsd-update installkernel with a message to reboot on succes or rollback on failure, then after reboot freebsd-update installworld, with a check if the new kernel is actually loaded, after that and rebuilding ports freebsd-update delete-old-libs I would like to know how others think about this approach, or am I thinking completely wrong here? real hw. i'm considering going to the clouds. i could easily restore from a vm snapshot. but for that i need to learn linux, another big time sink. add votes here: http://feedback.rackspacecloud.com/forums/71021-product-feedback/suggestion s/989519-create-a-freebsd-image Voted. I run FreeBSD on real hardware and in virtual machines, both work fine over the years. Hope you have your server up and running again and from your posts I trust you have good backups and a reliable fast way to restore. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/11/2011 01:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:46:42 +0100, Bas Smeelen b.smee...@ose.nl wrote: Do you plan to update FreeBSD and installed ports on your servers on a regular basis? Then I would not recommend installing graphical window ports (applications) on these servers, because it can give you a lot of time, work e.g. unnecessary hassle when upgrading/updating. I would suggest that, too. Allow me to point out a new perspective of the way of use: GUI forces you to work in a linear way and pay extra attention. You cannot automate it. Depending on what your primary intention is, using CLI tools to get rid of hands on work may be a better choice. This approach of course assumes that you actually KNOW what you're doing, but that's a main requirement for any administrator. :-) I definitely agree here. Webmin is a good GUI progam (from client perspective) for administering your servers, it just runs in your clients webbrowser and you can administer almost every aspect of your servers with it. That's true, but it brings new security risks to the system. Also keep in mind that using a web browser limits your accessibility to what the browser can do (and the Webmin can support), e. g. you may be faster using a shell with patterns and autocompletition than manually selecting things from a list. Agree here too. Webmin can be secured and audited very well, but still the more services that are available, the greater the security risks will be. Only from the commandline you have all options for configuration of different services available and it's the fastest way to do things. For graphical oriented users I think that Webmin is a real good solution and gives a way to get into the use of the commandline and configuration files. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: any friendly folk willing to teach an old foggie how to configure kde/ gnome on freebsd?
On 03/10/2011 04:33 AM, Juan C. Valido wrote: I'm an old foggie also and a lifetime Windows guy and I did a lot of research and a lot of trial and error until I found Dan's blog. God Bless the Man! Without his blog I would not have this server up. And yes it's running gnome. https://www.dan.me.uk/blog/category/freebsd/ On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 09:42 +0800, Foo JH wrote: Hi guys, I know the steps are documented on the Handbook and all. I've tried to read, follow, and re-read the steps, but I'm not still getting any popular window manager up and running on my FreeBSD servers. Meanwhile new hires are seduced by the comes-with-it windows manager via Ubuntu Desktop (yes, they abstained from the server edition because they really wanted the GUI). Hi Why would you want a window manager on your servers? Do you all work directly on the consoles? Do you have window managers/desktop environments on the workstations and access your servers remotely? It's not very hard, I would say it's easier, to configure your servers and services from the commandline with ssh. Or if you really want something graphical then webmin would be fine also. This is what I tend to roll-out for other (graphical oriented) administrators and with some custom commands configured this works great for them. DISCLAIMER: This e-mail is for the intended recipient(s) only. Access, disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance on any of it by anyone else is prohibited. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
