Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
HOW large is the directory? ls | wc -l On Nov 28, 2007 7:44 AM, Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No we are not using NIS. it is a large directory i am listing. actually it is the /usr/home directory, and is probably the largest on the system. However ls -l runs for close to six minutesand spends the 10 seconds scrolling the screen with the results. so i wait ls to start showing the results for about 5 and a half minutes. Even on a older and much slower system i've never seen it talk more than 15 seconds to complete. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. Mark Evans wrote: I'm using FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. When I run ls -l it takes forever for the it to complete. top shows that the ls -l command uses about 98% of the CPU doing the time. If I run ls I do not experience any problem. anyone have any ideas? Are you using NIS for user/group lookups? Is it a large directory that is taking a long time to sort? Kris -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: who wrote this
I'll take up the challenge. Hitler was evil. Quoting Hitler is not. When we seek to suppress information, no matter how troubling, we obscure the very lessons of history we need most to learn. If, because Hitler was evil, we do not allow discussion of him, how will future generations learn of his evil? As we argue this very point, there are people in the world insisting that the holocaust never happened, that Hitler did not commit the evil deeds that history has recorded he *did* commit. If we refuse to speak of him, those who insist he wasn't evil will win the argument by default. --- I believe that myself..evil people can still be brilliant, and can in retrospect, teach us a lot about ourselves as a human race. Were all animals, capable of horrible or fantastic things. What we do with that knowledge and power is the real problem. What genre of quoteable will we be debating next? MANY people worldwide hate/despise many things. If we begin here, where does it end? Will we be discussing a kernel level hitler filter next? C'mon, I believe that most reasonable people can separate the actions of someone from their words from a historically relevant point of view. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD NFS server responds with wrong address
Two nics, same subnet..problems exist in that configuration now and again. Im betting offhand that the traffic came in port B, but port A has the default route for the subnet, and thats where it left the box. On Nov 20, 2007 10:37 AM, Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren M. Lang wrote: I was attempting to do an NFS mount from a FreeBSD server to a FreeBSD client over IPv6 and received the error NFSPROC_NULL: RPC: Timed out. After doing a packet trace, I noticed that the FreeBSD server was indeed responding to both a Portmap GATADDR call and a NFS NULL call, but in both cases it was coming from the IPv6 address closest to the client making the call and not the address the call was issued to. Why is this happening and how do I make the server respond with the correct address? The server is FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7. I might be able to confirm this but not fix it. I had a dual nic NFS server (both nics in the same subnet and physical lan) I was issuing a mount to nic1, but nic0 was responding, so I got the NFS NULL call and a timeout. The fix was to issue it to nic0. (This is very likely due to my same subnet setup) -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Max file size in 6.1?
Whats the max file size you can create under 6.1? Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is it difficult to move from Linux?
The difficulty for my moving the last of my Linux boxes, is...iscsi support. God how I wish I could map luns, boot from luns, and share lun love with my other freebsd boxes. Im starting on another venture, that I -want- on FreeBSD, but likely will not be able to, because I cant use iscsi on it. (And wont on Fbsd until its been out for a while and proven stable). But other than that, my move was painless, I -hate- installing RH. On 10/23/07, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 03:01:41PM +0200, Gueven Bay wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 19:33 +0100, Donovan R. Palmer wrote: Hi, I have been using Linux for over 10 years, but have for a number of reasons become very interested in learning to use FreeBSD. Are there any ex or current Linux users here and could you tell me how hard it is to make the shift from Linux? Is there anything in particular which has been written which would be useful to read? And you can say that with FreeBSD you get a stable system as Debian GNU/Linux is _and_ you get a source based system as Gentoo GNU/Linux. In my experience, it's both more stable and more up to date than Debian. Before FreeBSD, my primary OS choice was Debian, but ultimately everything I liked about Debian was even better with FreeBSD. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] MacUser, Nov. 1990: There comes a time in the history of any project when it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and begin production. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing freeBSD on an Intel RAID5 partition
Did you know that most oh my god RAID failures happen during the reconstruction of a failed drive? .Especially on SATA as the non-recoverable-bit-error math is so much easier to run into. I think..that on a 500G drive, there are enough bits to read/write that mathematically you could run into a double-drive failure every time you have to recover. Although, statistically it wouldnt happen every time. No raid solves any backup problem. I've been using those Intel RAID with Windows for a couple of years now and it really helped solve my backup problem. I think this is simply great, no worries of data loss anymore (at least coming from hardware failure). -nodje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing freeBSD on an Intel RAID5 partition
SATA drives just aint built with the same resiliency as SCSI, hence the massive difference in cost. So..as an example, the Hitachi 500G 7K500 drive has a non recoverable bitrate of 1 in 10^14th. The 10K300 FCAL (basically scsi) drive is 1 in 10^16th. Those two zeros mean a _lot_. I removed a lot of my own math here, knowing that Ive read this somewhere before..huzzah for google! http://blogs.netapp.com/dave/2006/03/expect_double_d.html?no_prefetch=1 Im used to working with much larger drives, in very large RGs..so Im correctable, youre not going to play with the devil TOO much in a home for small business system, just not enough drives. But now you can find 1TB drives, and 7 of those in a raid wont be hard to find pretty soon. Eventually..you will hit a non recoverable bit error during a reconstruction, and you wont have parity to go to, to recover it. Unless youre using a dual parity layout of some type. Drives are also more common to fail when put into use from being spares, because theyve never been exercised over a long period of time..ya never know. The quality of the firmware that operates consumer SATA isnt near the level of quality that server drives are either, which can create ghost errors that dont truly exist, but to the OS are in fact errors which can shave off a few zeros as well. On 10/10/07, Nodje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you mean on RAID5 then, coz there's probably no math in reconstructing a RAID1. Why would the math on SATA be less reliable than on SCSI??? Where d'you read that anyway?? Jeff Mohler wrote: Did you know that most oh my god RAID failures happen during the reconstruction of a failed drive? .Especially on SATA as the non-recoverable-bit-error math is so much easier to run into. I think..that on a 500G drive, there are enough bits to read/write that mathematically you could run into a double-drive failure every time you have to recover. Although, statistically it wouldnt happen every time. No raid solves any backup problem. I've been using those Intel RAID with Windows for a couple of years now and it really helped solve my backup problem. I think this is simply great, no worries of data loss anymore (at least coming from hardware failure). -nodje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: networking overloaded (was Re: confirm 3454f2d8611cde291b81fa177d2434593f5e6d36)
On 10/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-04 13:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: confirm 3454f2d8611cde291b81fa177d2434593f5e6d36 What a great way of stating my non-idiot credentials :) ___ Nah..youre just going 'underground' with all of your knowledge. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't connecto to www.freebsd.org
On 9/27/07, icantthinkofone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found I am having this problem, too. I can access every other site I visit, both large and small. 'make fetchindex' no longer works, eg, it times out. As does 'fetch www.freebsd.org/docs' as suggested. --- Well dang.. I tried to visit www.freebsd.org as well, and I got porn instead. Who do I thank? No..I wont be trying to fix this. /humor ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Silly IPFW question.
Well..where is the mac you want to firewall from/against? On 9/24/07, Grant Peel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am sorry if this is a no-brainer Is there anyway to make a rule in IPFW that will match MAC addresses instead of IP or port numnbers (and no, I didnt see anything in the docs :-)) -Grant ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best SCSI or SAS RAID for a NAS?
Tell us what your workload IS..that will help a lot. Its not necessarily MB/sec, but disk IO's per second. Such as..if you have 5 servers with applications creating 100 IOPS on the local drive, then you need a RAID array capable of at least 500 IOPS at under 20ms to remain happy with it. You can expect up to 180 IOPS under 20ms on 15k drives, and 100-120 on 10k drives (or thereabouts) to also remain under 20ms per random IO. Notably, the overhead of the raid layout will factor into this as well. Tell us what your load will be, then you can get reasonable configuration guidelines. On 9/11/07, Mike Sweetser - Adhost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the replies, everybody. Its not just the controller you should be checking. The drives RPM speed, how many drives in the array, are you using RAID 0+1 or just RAID 5 for the array. Could you give more details on these issues? The array's running RAID 10 with basically the minimum drives for RAID 10; drives are 15K SCSI. I'd think this would be enough. no RAID controller, lots of cheap disks and thinking about how to RIGHT set UP gmirror/gstripe/gconcat will give you best performance. The concern is that this array is mounted over NFS by a number of different servers, all with constant read/write, so this is why we need throughput as high as we can get. Right now, we're only getting a fraction of the performance we theoretically should be getting. Mike Sweetser -- Mike Sweetser | Systems Administrator Adhost Internet 140 Fourth Avenue North, Suite 360, Seattle, Washington 98109 USA P 206.404.9023T 888.234.6781 (ADHOST-1)F 206.404.9050 E [EMAIL PROTECTED]W adhost.com Our brand new Adhost West data center is open - contact us for a tour at 1-888-234-6781 (ADHOST-1) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wojciech Puchar Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:28 AM To: Mike Sweetser - Adhost Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best SCSI or SAS RAID for a NAS? We're looking for opinions on what the best RAID controller would be for no RAID controller, lots of cheap disks and thinking about how to RIGHT set UP gmirror/gstripe/gconcat will give you best performance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4gb address space limitation for i386
Youre pretty much going to require an AMD setup for that. On 8/30/07, User Bobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an IBM xSeries 350 4xPIII with 5.5gb of RAM, and see that only about 3.5gb is being used under the i386 port. I've been looking through the archives to try and figure out what the root of the problem is and I amn't quite sure I know which part of the situation is the real problem. Is it a limitation of the i386 port? That is to say, if there were a specific PIII (i686?) port, would this problem be overcome? Or is it a hardware limitation? Is it necessary to use a not-clean method to access the extra address space (is this what PAE is?), and there's no clean way around it, regardless of the port? I was looking at building a PAE kernel, but was discouraged by the lack of usb and certain SCSI support, both of which I'd really like to have (in the case of SCSI, need to have). Is this lack of support because of an inherent difficulty in the hardware, or could it be overcome in a stable way with modification of the device driver code? My basic (and very hypothetical) question - if I had unlimited time and knowledge (I have limited both), what direction would I take to get access to all 5.5gb of RAM on this particular computer? Thank you, Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 4.11 binary compatibility (libm.so.2, etc)
On 8/28/07, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:52:51PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: Have you tried linking libm.so to libm.so.2? Sorry, but that's really bogus advice. Kris It would work for MacGuyver or the A-Team... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /bin/[
*heh* DONT remove that.its normal. On 8/26/07, Jim Stapleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if you get this question a lot - a few searches didn't find results for me. I have a /bin/[ file in my system - I just want to make sure it's not a sign of someone having hacked my machine. Thanks, -Jim Stapleton ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Major Bug
How are you trying to access it? Stone knives and bearskins? Telnet? SSH? Soup cans and string? Maybe you used the wrong color cable. On 8/14/07, Steve O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom it may concern, I setup a FreeBsd 7.0 server and cannot access it remotely with Windows Vista or Macitosh 10. My Windows XP machines have no problem even from the same NAT'd network. Any ideas? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Major Bug
Did you set the default route correctly so that you can see it from not-local networks? On 8/14/07, Steve O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No access to ssh, web any IP service. When I had the computer on the same network while testing, I did not have this problem. -- *From:* Jeff Mohler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:19 PM *To:* Steve O'Connor *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: Major Bug How are you trying to access it? Stone knives and bearskins? Telnet? SSH? Soup cans and string? Maybe you used the wrong color cable. On 8/14/07, *Steve O'Connor* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom it may concern, I setup a FreeBsd 7.0 server and cannot access it remotely with Windows Vista or Macitosh 10. My Windows XP machines have no problem even from the same NAT'd network. Any ideas? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Major Bug
Dont forget to keep the questions list on your replies, the reply to all button is your friend, not just reply. And im top posting, i'll burn in heck. On 8/14/07, Steve O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Routing is fine. I can access remotely using XP machines, just cant access this from Vista or Mac or BSD servers. -- *From:* Jeff Mohler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:25 PM *To:* Steve O'Connor *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG *Subject:* Re: Major Bug Did you set the default route correctly so that you can see it from not-local networks? On 8/14/07, *Steve O'Connor* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No access to ssh, web any IP service. When I had the computer on the same network while testing, I did not have this problem. -- *From:* Jeff Mohler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 14, 2007 12:19 PM *To:* Steve O'Connor *Cc:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: Major Bug How are you trying to access it? Stone knives and bearskins? Telnet? SSH? Soup cans and string? Maybe you used the wrong color cable. On 8/14/07, *Steve O'Connor* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom it may concern, I setup a FreeBsd 7.0 server and cannot access it remotely with Windows Vista or Macitosh 10. My Windows XP machines have no problem even from the same NAT'd network. Any ideas? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unbelievably bad RAID-1 performance
The EDGE is faster byte wise, not the center. The distance between traditional or perpendicular sectors remains the same, just more of them around the drive at a given distance from the center, than at the center. So..because RPM remains the same at all distances from the center, you will read more sectors per second at the edge, than center. Although..that wont make a 100x difference in speed..I wouldnt think. On 8/5/07, Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: while writing to the disk gstat screenshot http://people.apache.org/~pgollucci/disks.png If I move the location to '/' (da0s1a) which AFAIK is at the center of disk(smaller thus faster rpms) should be faster, performance is at least 100times worse which is the opposite I would expect. Is there anything I can do to help this out. I'm likely going to chuck the raid card in the trash and just use one disk and reply on backups which I already have going. Dell PowerEdge 1435SC Dual Intel Core2 Duo 2.4GHz 4GB RAM RAID-1 Config with 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] each FreeBSD 6.2-release-p5 amd64 custom kernel. mpt0: LSILogic SAS/SATA Adapter port 0xdc00-0xdcff mem 0xeffec000-0xeffe,0xefff-0xefff irq 35 at device 8.0 on pci7 mpt0: [GIANT-LOCKED] mpt0: MPI Version=1.5.12.0 mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x16 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x12 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x12 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x12 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0x16 mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0x16 (ACK not required). mpt0: mpt_cam_event: 0xb mpt0: Unhandled Event Notify Frame. Event 0xb (ACK not required). da0 at mpt0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Dell VIRTUAL DISK 1028 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device da0: 300.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 237464MB (486326272 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 30272C) Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 323.219.4708 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amd
Dick: It would have been graceful to say nothing in the sense that you dont KNOW the answer, than point out that there are differences. On 7/15/07, Dick Hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael B Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a C developer. I normally use Linux but I'm trying FreeBSD with limited success. FreeBSD is quite different from linux. There is a learning curve. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ http://nagual.nl/ + Solaris 11 05/07 ++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems
Yup..and it goes back to my original point. If it saves $5/box times 100,000 units and they charge you the same for the box rental/purchase, its a good business decision. On 7/14/07, fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is right off the cable internet service providers website. Plan NamePlan Type (Speed Max) (Speed Min) Exceed 788 Residential 384 kbps 32 kbps Exceed 1350 Residential 512 kbps 64 kbps Exceed 2000 Comm w/o IP 768 kbps 128 kbps Exceed 3500 Comm w/o IP 1024 kbps 192 kbps Exceed 4000 Comm w/ IP 1024 kbps 192 kbps So 10Mbps = 10240kbps and 1024kbps = 1Mbps Then a 10Mbps cable modem can feed their network faster than even the fastest service plan they offer. Do I have correct understanding now? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of L Goodwin Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:54 PM To: Sten Daniel Soersdal; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ORG Subject: Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems They probably did it because the number of subscribers has increased to the point that they need to start limiting bandwidth to ensure that everyone gets their fair share. They probably allowed subscribers to exceed their allotted max bandwidth while the number of subscribers was sufficiently low that they did not have to worry about it. Now that they have a lot of subscribers, they have to worry about it. --- Sten Daniel Soersdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fbsd2 wrote: Comclark cable in Angeles City Philippines has changed from using 100Mbps Cable Modem to 10Mbps Cable Modem. To me this seems to be all wrong as all I see is slower response. Is there any technical or performance reason for any cable internet provider to downgrade their network subscribers cable modems from 100Mbps to 10Mbps? That reason could be compatibility. If you see slower response then perhaps something is wrong. Perhaps you should call their support and verify that you do not have a mismatched duplex setting? Mismatched duplex can come from misbehaving autonegotiation or that one end is set to full-duplex while the other end is set to half-duplex, or, one end is set to full-duplex and the other end is set to auto-negotiate (which results in falling back to half-duplex). -- Sten Daniel Soersdal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ __ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10Mbps versus 100Mbps Cable Modems
Do you have more than 10Mbit/sec of cable internet bandwidth available? I dont see it as a problem if you dont, but if you have 20Mbit/sec of internet, then ya.. If it saves then $5 a unit, for 10,000 units, no harm. On 7/11/07, fbsd2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comclark cable in Angeles City Philippines has changed from using 100Mbps Cable Modem to 10Mbps Cable Modem. To me this seems to be all wrong as all I see is slower response. Is there any technical or performance reason for any cable internet provider to downgrade their network subscribers cable modems from 100Mbps to 10Mbps? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multi CPU?
Am I using both CPUs as I should when I look at this from top? PIDUID THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 11 0 1 171 52 0K 8K CPU1 0 0:00 99.56% idle: cpu1 12 0 1 171 52 0K 8K RUN0 666.2H 78.81% idle: cpu0 cpu1 seems...not used? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best remote backup method?
Is there a free NDMP tool for Freebsd?
On 5/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Roland Smith wrote:
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 01:38:13PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
I'm presently backing up two servers in a remote location to a usb
drive
located elsewhere by using rsync over ssh (all three are FreeBSD
boxes.)
After the recent discussion about dump, I'm wondering if I would gain
anything by using dump rather than rsync. Has anyone used both? Any
thoughts as to which is better and why?
The rsync command I use is:
rsync -avz ${LOCALDIR} -e ssh -i ${KEY} ${REMOTEHOST}:${REMOTEDIR}
With dumps it is easier to keep different ones around. If you rsync a
directory, all previous changes are lost. If you rsync to a different
directory every time to keep different versions, you might as well use
tar, because rsync won't save a lot of space/time in that case. And dump
will backup all ufs2 features such as flags and acls. I'm not sure if
rsync can manage that. It's also easy to compress dumps, which can save
a lot of space.
Tar is expensive time-wise anyhow after a while if you use compression.
Also, rsync does diffs on files, which can become expensive in terms of
time.
-Garrett
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Re: Video fileserver - Need some input
45MB/sec is too fast for GigE? Wha? On 5/9/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-05-09 08:21, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: I'm planning a new fileserver for my post-production facility and need some input regarding filesystems and network setup. I've been a FreeBSD fan for almost 10 years now and will try to build this server based on the latest stable FreeBSD version, allthough most machines here run WinXP. In addition to this 1-5 machines will have access to the fileserver through a shared Gigabit network connection for making DVDs and use the files as source for editing. In short: There will be two direct 1Gb network connections and one shared 1Gb connection. Will the server hold up? Depending on the resolution and frame rate of your video, GigE is nowhere near fast enough a pipe for live video manipulation. This is certainly the case when dealing with broadcast video. - -- Chris Slothouber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQc01s0gLFnnAwn8RAggtAKDYIRWT1iB0VjkmRxxJ8EzbjJxg+wCgmPuM /fHCEVtbOq2G50rXb91djtg= =lzTn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video fileserver - Need some input
Chris: Accept my fallin on my sword..I didnt see your reply before I sent. ;) On 5/9/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-05-09 10:12, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: On 5/9/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-05-09 08:21, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: I'm planning a new fileserver for my post-production facility and need some input regarding filesystems and network setup. I've been a FreeBSD fan for almost 10 years now and will try to build this server based on the latest stable FreeBSD version, allthough most machines here run WinXP. In addition to this 1-5 machines will have access to the fileserver through a shared Gigabit network connection for making DVDs and use the files as source for editing. In short: There will be two direct 1Gb network connections and one shared 1Gb connection. Will the server hold up? Depending on the resolution and frame rate of your video, GigE is nowhere near fast enough a pipe for live video manipulation. This is certainly the case when dealing with broadcast video. We're only working in Standard Definition PAL (see the datarates in my first post). I have done DV capture tests before over the network and that worked fine. We're already having three machines feeding from one server today and that works fine too allthough it is a bit slow. We're mainly copying files to local drives, but DVD creation happens straight from the server. My apologies, I totally glazed over that bit. Samba does have some performance issues out of the box (see Solon Luigi Lutz's thread from 04-10, similar situation but a little bit more later in the game). I believe there are a few tuning options for Samba-FreeBSD that might be appropriate, esp. wrt. multi-threading CIFS. Google seems to show a lot of hits for that. Sorry again for missing the info you provided. I hope this helps. - -- Chris Slothouber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQd/0s0gLFnnAwn8RAvgsAJ9Dr2oFZMMt8sfPbsMtLBJZ3hBc8gCfVRVL 8tgP0nFuv881JKe/ZRkeOQI= =jq/3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video fileserver - Need some input
The _main_ think I can think of, is windows in a SINGLE threaded movement of data via CIFS, is gonna limit you to about 17MB/sec. Andreas..have you tested this via CIFS/Redirector and been able to sustain the performance that you need before going with Samba (another performance layer issue) On 5/9/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2007-05-09 10:12, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: On 5/9/07, Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-05-09 08:21, Andreas Widerøe Andersen wrote: I'm planning a new fileserver for my post-production facility and need some input regarding filesystems and network setup. I've been a FreeBSD fan for almost 10 years now and will try to build this server based on the latest stable FreeBSD version, allthough most machines here run WinXP. In addition to this 1-5 machines will have access to the fileserver through a shared Gigabit network connection for making DVDs and use the files as source for editing. In short: There will be two direct 1Gb network connections and one shared 1Gb connection. Will the server hold up? Depending on the resolution and frame rate of your video, GigE is nowhere near fast enough a pipe for live video manipulation. This is certainly the case when dealing with broadcast video. We're only working in Standard Definition PAL (see the datarates in my first post). I have done DV capture tests before over the network and that worked fine. We're already having three machines feeding from one server today and that works fine too allthough it is a bit slow. We're mainly copying files to local drives, but DVD creation happens straight from the server. My apologies, I totally glazed over that bit. Samba does have some performance issues out of the box (see Solon Luigi Lutz's thread from 04-10, similar situation but a little bit more later in the game). I believe there are a few tuning options for Samba-FreeBSD that might be appropriate, esp. wrt. multi-threading CIFS. Google seems to show a lot of hits for that. Sorry again for missing the info you provided. I hope this helps. - -- Chris Slothouber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -=- Mercenary Sysadmin BIZ: http://www.hier7.com -=- building.better.ideas PGP: 7A83 F021 5AC3 4BD7 6738 21D8 B348 0B16 79C0 C27F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGQd/0s0gLFnnAwn8RAvgsAJ9Dr2oFZMMt8sfPbsMtLBJZ3hBc8gCfVRVL 8tgP0nFuv881JKe/ZRkeOQI= =jq/3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Time Synchronizing Between Two Servers
Is that working? If it is..seems you nailed it. On 5/2/07, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two servers that have to have their time synchronized between the two to within one second. What is recommended? Currently, I have ntpd running on one and have the other synchronizing it's time off the first. Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Single Instance Service
Serving home directories, you end up with tons. One marketting dude creates a 10Mb PPT slide, sends it to 10 people that forward it to 2 more each... Next thing you know you have dozens of copies of thousands of the same documents sitting in deep storage home directories, taking up space. In backups, SIS is the killer feature, in spinning storage..its worth 200% the cost of the storage you save. Most of us..would never need it..but for those that do..do. On 4/25/07, Peter Ankerstål [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GARRISON, TRAVIS J. wrote: I am looking for software that will run on FreeBSD that is similar to Microsoft Single Instance Service. The Single Instance Storage Filter is a file system filter that manages the duplicate copies of files on hard-disk volumes. This filter copies one instance of the duplicate file into a central folder, and the duplicates are replaced with a link to the central copy to improve disk usage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cant really see why you would need something like this i FreeBSD. Why would you have shitloads of duplicates? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Single Instance Service
It can if your storage appliance supports ASIS. Some even operate at the block level, not just the file level. On 4/26/07, GARRISON, TRAVIS J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olivier Nicole Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: GARRISON, TRAVIS J.; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Single Instance Service Sure it is. You will need to write a small shell script to scan your disk volume and calculate the checksum of each file. When ever it finds a duplicated checksum, then it copies the file into the central store and replaces the on-disk copies with symbolic links. That's fairly trivial to write. Beside, what should be the behaviour when one wishes to modify his own copy of a document? How does Single Instance acts in that case? If you establish a link, there is only one version of the file, once and forever (unless you go and unlink it manually), so when one modifies the file, modification applies for everyone. Olivier [GARRISON, TRAVIS J.] I know with Windows Storage Server, if a user modifies the file, it will then create the user their own copy of the file. This happens automatically. Exchange Server is another example of this type of storage. When someone sends an attachment to several people, the server saved one copy of the file. I am currently managing 7TB worth of data with roughly 1 to 2TB of duplicate files. This gets fairly expensive with a fiber channel san backend. I know it can be done in the windows world automatically, just wondered if it could be done automatically in the Unix world also. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tagging email subject line with something like [fbsd-questions]
I dont think subject tagging is poor at all. whats poor is overly long poorly organized subject lines..but hey..[FBSDQ] aint all that long. On 4/25/07, Alex Zbyslaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amarendra Godbole wrote: I subscribe to many fbsd lists through gmail, and am not able to visually detect which email was sent to which fbsd list. Is it possible to add a tag in the subject line, something like, [fbsd-q], or [fbsd-questions], or similar so that emails can be visually classified? Given that these lists have been around for a long time, was there a discussion on this? If the idea of tagging was dropped, can someone inform me about the rationale behind this decision? Thanks in advance! All messages are already tagged with a List-ID e.g. List-Id: User questions freebsd-questions.freebsd.org Can gmail not filter on that? Visual tagging of subject lines is a poor solution. Either you tag at the front [fbsd-questions] Really long subject line that gets truncated even earlier thanks to the tag or at the end Really long subject line where the tag disappears in a haze of ... [fbsd-questions] Neither of which is satisfactory, and for most people with sensible email environments that can filter of Header lines, an unnecessary inconvenience. Not to mention the question of how on earth you co-ordinate unique tags across mailing lists. Since the List-ID isn't constrained by length it can contain the email address of the list, which is already unique. If you can't filter on the List-ID then filter on To and Cc lines which contain [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not as good, but it would do. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terabyte harddisks, GELI, AMD64, Samba and Zen...
Was your 17mb/sec a drag drop from a windows client? 17Mb/sec is about right, as Windows deals with that as a single threaded I/O operation. You can stuff a GigE pipe from a windows machine to a netapp or some other solid CIFS server if you can fire up multiple threads to copy with. So..dont feel bad, thats just the cap of a single threaded copy from windows. On 4/10/07, Solon Luigi Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello freebsd-questions, I've setup a Freebsd 6.2 server with a Areca 1280 24-port SATA2-Raid controller and some 24 500gb harddisks. CPU is a AMD64 Sempron 3000+. --- FreeBSD rad.net 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sun Apr 8 12:39:46 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/RADIUM amd64 --- --- Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad10s1a496M 70M386M15%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/ad10s1e496M 18K456M 0%/tmp /dev/ad10s1f 67G3.9G 58G 6%/usr /dev/ad10s1d1.9G1.0G761M58%/var /dev/da0.eli9.9T4.0T5.1T44%/mnt --- The raid contains one 10 terabyte volume, encrypted with GELI --- Geom name: da0.eli EncryptionAlgorithm: AES-CBC KeyLength: 128 Crypto: software UsedKey: 0 Flags: NONE Providers: 1. Name: da0.eli Mediasize: 1096342272 (10T) Sectorsize: 8192 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: da0 Mediasize: 1096350464 (10T) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 --- As I started to fill up the volume, I experienced random crashes - always while doing high-speed transfers over gigabit ethernet between this and another server. Mostly 1-2 per day - might be a hardware problem or not. Due to the slow CPU and software encryption, the maximum speed is somewhat limited (raw speed is somewhat around 600 MB/s): --- File './Bonnie.2117', size: 1048576000 Writing with putc()...done Rewriting...done Writing intelligently...done Reading with getc()...done Reading intelligently...done Seeker 1...Seeker 2...Seeker 3...start 'em...done...done...done... ---Sequential Output ---Sequential Input-- --Random-- -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block--- --Seeks--- MachineMB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU /sec %CPU 1000 37922 31.5 48829 12.0 23827 5.0 30054 36.0 43666 6.0 1120.0 2.5 --- But I have not been able to get more than 17 MB/s when using Samba to transfer data - FTP maxes out around 27 MB/s. I also tried that on i386 32-bit and found it to be 8 MB/s and 17 MB/s - not good, but nothing to worry. What made me feel really uncomfortable was the fact, that just some minutes ago some 3000 1GB files suddenly disappeared while working in a directory. They where gone, but the filesystem did not report some additional 3TB to be free and after unmounting and remounting the filesystem the files were back where the belonged... This just happened some minutes later again, now with only 2500 files dis- and -reappearing again. Questions until now: 1. 10TB as a single volume, too big for good? (fsck time: 30 min with softupdates) 2. GELI unstable on big disks and/or AMD64? 3. Why is Samba so slow? 4. Does the crypto-framwork gain speed advantages from dual-core CPUs? 5. Will the GPT-stuff change over the next releases in a way I need to do DUMP/RESTORE? Thanks for your patience... Best regards, Solon Lutz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Uptime
You measure the time between kicking it, and someone catching it, I think. No..thats hangtime. Try: uptime On 3/23/07, Stan Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi; How do I determine the uptime of my server? Thanks, Stan2 - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 library question..
My output to your commands is identical to yours in that it was found, and is the same open-motif version. :( :( On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Indeed, % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname *libxm* . . . /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ . . . /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % ldconfig -r | grep libXm . . . 127:-lXm.3 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, which means you need to upgrade it. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 library question..
For kicks I copied to to /usr/lib. NEW error.. error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libXm.so.3: ELF file OS ABI invalid On 3/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Indeed, % find /usr/X11R6/ -type f -iname *libxm* . . . /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % grep -r libXm /var/db/pkg/ . . . /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.a /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so /var/db/pkg/open-motif-2.2.3_2/+CONTENTS:lib/libXm.so.3 . . . % ldconfig -r | grep libXm . . . 127:-lXm.3 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 . . . You may need to run ldconfig -R (or ldconfig -m /usr/X11R6/lib if /usr/X11R6/lib somehow did not get in the hints file). Alternatively, you may have an older version of open-motif, which means you need to upgrade it. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X11 library question..
The error: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Ive done a few searches, and installing open-motif seemed to be the right answer, but isnt getting me anywhere. Ideas/suggestions? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NBU Linux Compat
Has anyone ever run Net Backup under Linux emulation? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back?
It would be a facinating experiment if a lrge group of Fbsd users at 1000s of hosts were recruited as supporters to the Fbsd Organization..to host some subset of critical files. It would be super neato if you could configure what you wished to donate via a tool that would populate your box with specific data. On 2/25/07, Andrew Lentvorski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Slothouber wrote: But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? Yes, actually, it is. -a ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back?
Oh ya..i agree. I was being a futurist, not a realist. On 2/25/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Chris Slothouber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: - Original Message - From: Andrew Lentvorski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:38 PM Subject: Could we get the FreeBSD torrent servers back? Can we please get the FreeBSD torrent tracker and/or server back? (snip) Nobody pays the mirrors for their bandwidth. They are hosting and paying for the bandwidth out of the goodness of their hearts. Nothing is stopping you from setting up your own torrent server on a big fast pipe that everyone else can use, and not pay you for. I don't know for sure how other ISP's do it but we definitely use bandwidth limitations on the servers we host, customers that pay a lot get a lot, customers that pay less get less, and the freebie servers get whatever is left over after the paying customers have had their fill. (snip) I would suspect if you examined the financing scheme used for the Linux download servers you would find that it is quite different than FreeBSD. But isn't the whole point of peer to peer file distribution to *distribute* the bandwidth requirements to the point that the costs involved for each of the individual peers is trivial but the client receiving the file still obtains full speed of a direct download? Most of the time the way peer-to-peer filesharing is used, the point is to hide the sources of the streams, in order to distribute illicit material. What your talking about only works if you have a large group of FreeBSD volunteers that are willing to run the torrent servers. Let's assume that only 0.01% of any population group would step up to the plate to offer a torrent server. Well I can see a Linux torrent network working because Linux has an order of magnitude greater number of users than FreeBSD. But I think you would find it impossible to recruit something like 1000 FreeBSD users to step up to the plate and offer a torrent server. The population numbers just aren't there. Worse, the initial people that offer the server are going to get the brunt of the load and you can't give them any guarentee that your going to be able to recruit future torrent servers to lessen the work on them. Like out-of-control-broadcating on an Ethernet nework, sometimes in networking things just coalesce out of nowhere when the network gets large enough. I don't think we have enough FreeBSD users in the population to depend on things like this just appearing by themselves. FreeBSD came to the grow big or grow well crossroads many years ago and took the grow well path. Linux took the grow big path. It is very much like what happened to MacOS and Windows. One grew big, the other grew well. Today, though, neither can really change. FreeBSD can no more displace Linux in terms of numbers and in terms of newbies using it, than Linux could displace FreeBSD in terms of being able to be usable for commercial products, or displace FreeBSD in terms of being able to collect the absolute best developers in the industry. I think the Open Source world is much better off for this happening since it gives more different choices for the consumers, but by the same coin your going to be frustrated if you try to make FreeBSD look, walk and talk just like Linux. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID Performance Questions
How about one large raid, and two partitions to serve each purpose? Being so limited in HW, youre either going to take a _huge_ performance hit with only 2 disks per raid (unless Raid0), or an availability hit with everything on one RAID set. But..considering the costs of adding RAID to a server..take a peek here for a high(er) perfomance RAID solution..if Fbsd had an iscsi layer like linux has had for...5yrs or so..this would be a slam dunk as you can still serve it as block data. If that cant help you, it might help the next guy with only a few K's to spend on large disks and raid controllers. On 1/25/07, Milo Hyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2007, at 12:15, Chuck Swiger wrote: Still, you also ought to consider that a 3-disk RAID-5 configuration is very much not ideal from either an efficiency or performance standpoint-- you want more like 5 or 6 drives being used, in which case your performance numbers ought to increase some. This is also somewhat true of the 4-disk RAID-10 config; using 6 or all 8 drives would likely improve performance compared with striping against only two disks. Unfortunately, I'm a bit limited in terms of equipment and application requirements. For starters, the app specs currently call for two arrays: one for general file-serving and databases, and the other for backups. Due to limited hardware I'm to run both on the same controller. Far from ideal, I know, but it's what I have. Second, I need to keep at least one drive as a hot-spare. Thus, I have seven drives that I somehow need to partition into two groups and maximize performance without sacrificing reliability. Lastly, the RAID controller does not permit more than two drives in a RAID-1 set. Any suggestions? -- Milo Hyson CyberLife Labs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: more than 7 partitions on a SCSI-drive
Ive never understood why we still partition drives so much..its one spindle..sure, a hige filesystem might cause an edge performance issue..but..its one spindle. / works. ? If there is a fundamental reason why we still partition things like we only have 10, 20, or 40Mb RLL. or slightly larger ESDI drives from back in the day..im willing to learn. On 1/21/07, Christian Baer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folkes! Is there any way to do this with FreeBSD? Background: I have to admit, that I have never actually done or even tried this with any OS whatsoever. I am running a two drive system with two mirrors on it. Because I wanted a lot of room for /usr while /usr/home ist mounted on a different partition, the second drive is filled with the two mirror partitions, /usr and a swap partition. Everything else is mounted on the first drive. That being: /, /temp, /var, /usr/obj and the second swap partition. Together with the two mirrors this means seven (in words: 7) partitions. The table looks like this: Filesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0a 501M 72M389M16%/ devfs 1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev /dev/da0d 1.9G102K1.8G 0%/tmp /dev/da1f21G2.9G 17G15%/usr /dev/da0h 6.8G742M5.5G12%/usr/obj /dev/da0e 4.8G 71M4.4G 2%/var /dev/mirror/sec1.eli9.8G7.5M9.0G 0%/usr/home /dev/mirror/sec0.eli 34G 21M 32G 0%/usr/home/christian What really sounds (and probably is) pathetic is that I have nearly 6 gigs of 'leftover' space on da0. Increasing the size of the mounted partitions isn't really useful anymore (apart from reducing the free space) as I for example probably won't be needing 2GB for /temp or more than 5GB for /var - those are the sizes I have allocated now. Making / any bigger than the current 512MB wouldn't bring any advances either. Increasing the size of the mirrors isn't an option because that would be schrinking /usr. Finding a new mount point wouldn't be a problem. I was thinking something along the lines of /usr/ports. /usr/src was an idea at first but since I want to keep that on a different physical drive than /usr/obj, the idea doesn't seem that bright anymore. But the problem is that I can't allocate another partition, not that I ran out of ideas for mount points. :-) On other machines with IDE-drives I had one slice with partitions inside and never ran into this limitation before. Is there any way to do something like that on SCSI-drives? We are talking about SPARC64 here. Regards Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
Yes, they dont solve this whatsoever. Its a severely broken code issue in the attr caching mechanism. Honest..give it a shot. Even with very very slow ATA, local builds of the kernel or world are faster than over 1G NFS to an F6000 series filer, and the filer will still thrash on WAFL metadata requests for the client, cuz everytime ../.. walks somewhere the client knows nothing and it's all sent over the wire again. Over and over and over. Thats as much as I understand about it, freebsd-fs has great detail on this bug. On 1/11/07, Freminlins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/01/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The basic reason is that a ../.. walk invalidates cached metadata, and you end up with a pipe full of getattr's all of the time. Freebsd-fs has discussed this a bit, but no fixing is coming soon. We use linux to compile builds, we'd like to use Freebsd, but linux on Filers via NFS is about 3x faster than the same builds on Fbsd to the same filer. ../.. baby. Did you try different mount options on the FreeBSD clients. I have no idea, but Linux may have different defaults. Frem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
1 - To fix stuff that works in linux but goes to crap in freebsd, one such example is NFS. I don't actually have a problem with FreeBSD and NFS. This is using about 20+ clients and 2 NetApp filers. What problem are you having, rather than just goes to crap? --- If for example you do a make buildworld or a kernel build (anything that uses a lot of ../.. to walk the dir structure) you will find that it is way slower than the same builds on local disk. The basic reason is that a ../.. walk invalidates cached metadata, and you end up with a pipe full of getattr's all of the time. Freebsd-fs has discussed this a bit, but no fixing is coming soon. We use linux to compile builds, we'd like to use Freebsd, but linux on Filers via NFS is about 3x faster than the same builds on Fbsd to the same filer. ../.. baby. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
I dunno..Linux got _somewhere_ before big money came into it. Like I said..when Fbsd 2.5 was light _years_ ahead of Linux..sometime after that, focus was lost. Perhaps chosing to emulate instead of innovate (work smart not hard) didnt pay off as well as everyone hoped. ..not that nobody worked hard..just that perhaps a decision was made to let the linux community write the new code and Fbsd community would polish it and/or emulate it once it was complete. On 1/10/07, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Mohler wrote: Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question. Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead? http://news.com.com/2100-1001-825723.html Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
Most of us are, understanding how we/it got here, IS positive. What to do about it..is progress. On 1/10/07, Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ? - This is a tired old thread Please put it to bed Don't keep it fed Think positive instead Cheers, - BobMc - ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI
That only works if the target comes up within the 2min window that SCSI allows for. It won't wait forever. On 1/9/07, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last episode (Jan 09), DAve said: The developers response, for those who are interested. hi Dave, the initiator for iSCSI will hit stable/current real soon now. that was the good news, now for the down side: what was missing all along was recovery from network disconnects, so while I think I have it almost worked out, I've come across a major flow in the iscsi design: when the targets crashes, and comes back, there is no way to tell the client to run an fsck. This is not a problem if the client is mounting the iscsi partition read only. danny Why should the client need to do an fsck? From its point of view it should just look like the target had the iSCSI equivalent of a bus reset. It should resend any queued requests and continue. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI
I never said it was, my rather poor example (I said I was new to iSCSI) was if a remote file system crashes, who should fsck it? The server (Target) or the client (Initiator)? --- Clearly, the initiator. It owns the filesystem. Its just a big anonymous file on the target with no relevant structure that it cares about. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation. I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which end of a SAN connection owns the responsibility for fsck'ing a SAN filesystem, I wonder how quickly I can bone up on Linux. In ten years at Network Appliance..wanna know exactly how many FreeBSD host installs ive seen besides Yahoo? 2. How many -non- Linux SAN configurations? Probly 80% of all SAN I see and work with are Linux based. Fbsd NFS client performance is 1/3'd that of a tuned linux box, can you say ../..? If you can, you know what its like to never have a valid directory attr cache on your mounts. (ick) Automount...dont even go there. Im in this for the long haul..I like Fbsd, and as long s lynx and apache still work on it, im happy. As for the future..I just dont see much serious future there unless it grows up. Rememer when Linux couldnt do _crap_ and Fbsd 2.5 was the bomb? I do...I want like to see that again. On 1/9/07, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/07, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know about some of the items, but... -Flash support with Mozilla products is being done through Mozilla's ActionScript Engine: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200611/110706Mozilla.html. So, I expect the latest version of Adobe's Flash Player to be supported on all Unix platforms to some extent in the future. Sound support will be interesting though. But I use Opera?? And It needs to work with youtube, without crashing and without install headaches. 'cd /usr/ports/www/flash; make install clean; exit;' then open browser to youtube.com and go. No library shuffle or libmap configuring. -Isn't Xen handled by the Xen project and not FreeBSD? Yes, and they have done their part. Now it's FreeBSD's turn to integrate the changes needed to the kernel into the kernel to make Dom0 support work. Linux has it, Solaris has it. NetBSD has it. Mac has it? FreeBSD does not have it. Server virtualization is the next big thing and FreeBSD has nothing going for it in this respect... Not even VMware or any of the other big players works with FreeBSD as a host OS. Seems like your comment (was related) but off-topic. It is off-topic... don't really care at this point. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
If I could program my way out of a _paper bag_ I would. But I cant. But ive helped drive some wonderful gifting Fbsd's way in my time..im still a believer. On 1/9/07, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/9/07, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fbsd needs SAN support before it can cope with virtualization..virtualization requires a lot of disk..spindles..and FCP/iSCSI is a great way to drive this condensation. I mean..when you have to read this list, and see people wonder which end of a SAN connection owns the responsibility for fsck'ing a SAN filesystem, I wonder how quickly I can bone up on Linux. In ten years at Network Appliance..wanna know exactly how many FreeBSD host installs ive seen besides Yahoo? 2. How many -non- Linux SAN configurations? Probly 80% of all SAN I see and work with are Linux based. Fbsd NFS client performance is 1/3'd that of a tuned linux box, can you say ../..? If you can, you know what its like to never have a valid directory attr cache on your mounts. (ick) Automount...dont even go there. Im in this for the long haul..I like Fbsd, and as long s lynx and apache still work on it, im happy. As for the future..I just dont see much serious future there unless it grows up. Rememer when Linux couldnt do _crap_ and Fbsd 2.5 was the bomb? I do...I want like to see that again. I'd like to see FreeBSD on top too, I really love and care for it but I'm very disappointed and ambivalent with the projects current state of affairs. I think one project that should be attempted is to get FreeBSD running on top of a Linux kernel. This could potently solve FreeBSD's biggest problems We could mold it (the Linux kernel) into are own kernel while still maintaining compatibility with the real Linux kernel tree. anyhow... it's something to think about. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is THIS why the 6.2 release seems stalled ?
Not all of us can program..but let me ask this question. Linux is all volunteer, how did it get so far ahead? Granted I'll take ports over RPM's and such any day, but..ports hasnt sucked up all of the Fbsd oxygen by itself in the last handful of years. On 1/9/07, Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:01:51 -0600 Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD is created and supported by volunteers. Seems like you just posted a nice list of things for you to get busy and contribute. I don't have time to contribute work, I have a business to manage as well as other obligations that come first... I need this stuff to just work... so I can get real things done. So you need people to work freely, without any pay, to make things work for you, so you can complain when something isn't working like you want it to!? So you can get real things done!? If you have a business to manage, and just need this to work, made by people who contribute for free, maybe its time you start to pay someone!? Now just shut up and go away!!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: off-topic: video web hosting questions
Firstl..how much Netapp can you afford?:) Id start here: http://www.sitepoint.com/ On 12/17/06, Malcolm Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I ask questions about the web hosting? I am being asked to set-up a web site that will deliver video, a youTube wannabe :-) So I'd like visit a forum that discusses such things malcolm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about gmirror?
Sure..just mount it as /newdisk or something. On 12/11/06, perikillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi people. I have one system running FreeBSD 6.1-p11 i have there a Raid-1 setup with gmirror, is working very good stable, but i need to add another space not for the raid, is for the applicaction im running there like a temporal buffer, my doubt is: Can i add another disk to the system apart from the Raid? Example: Raid-1 -- ad0 + ad2 (/, /usr, /var, /tmp, /home, swap) extra disk --ad3 (/buffer) I have this doubt only. Thanks all for your time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Empty directory 60M in size; used to contain 1.7 million files
The directory size grew to accomodate the metadata required to list the files within it. You cant shrink it. You'll have to remove it and recreate it. On 11/26/06, Peter Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Observe: hyperion# ls -la total 61634 drwxr-xr-x 2 xxx yyy 63047168 Nov 18 21:33 . drwxr-xr-x 6 xxx yyy 512 Oct 8 16:39 .. hyperion# find . . hyperion# The one special circumstance is that the directory previously contained 1.7 million small files, that are now deleted. This is on FreeBSD 6.1 with UFS2 + softupdates. No snapshots exist of the filesystem. 1.7 million files may be extreme, but I don't see why an empty directory would ever consume more than one inode? -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.scode.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unsubscribe me please
If he uses linux, there's probly a broken RPM for that. On 11/18/06, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read the last line on _any_ email on this list. Aww c'mon guys! He asked very nicely, and he's obviously a non-techie. I sent an un-sub for him; hopefully he can handle the confirmation part, if there is one. if he can't read - i don't think so. -W ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual core processors
My dmesg matches yours Juha.. Would enabling Hyperthreading increase any of my processing power? On 11/14/06, Juha Saarinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/15/06, Robert Fitzpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like my hyperthreading is enabled and it is in the BIOS. I was told there was a dual-core in the machine, but not confirmed. But there should be two with HT anyway as seen, correct? This is a dmesg from an Intel D830 box: CPU: Genuine Intel(R) CPU 3.20GHz (3217.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf47 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,P SE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x649dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Cores per package: 2 I think you do have a single processor with hyperthreading (logical CPUs) and not a dual-core model. To get hyperthreading up and running, you need to add: machdep.hyperthreading_allowed=1 to /etc/sysctl.conf or change it manually. Please google for the security implications of doing this first though. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual core processors
I thought that since we both had HTT tags in the CPU ID, that we had it. ;) On 11/14/06, Juha Saarinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/15/06, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dmesg matches yours Juha.. Would enabling Hyperthreading increase any of my processing power? Well, if you have the D830, no, because it doesn't have HTT support. :) As a general question, the answer is yes and no. Depends on your application basically, as well as the operating system itself. It's one of those questions that'll lead to long and detailed flame wars, unfortunately. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Monitoring Application Help, What do you use?
Im am _loving_ zabbix for this. 1.1 in ports works, 1.1.3 from the site works, 1.3 doesnt compile for me cleanly at all..but what does work..does ALL of those things very easily. On 11/14/06, Sean Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking into a Network/Server monitoring application that would do the following Must have features email/page/sms if one of the rules fail has the ability to of course ping the device, ssh into or have someway of checking if a daemon is running. Optional but nice features reporting statistics and system status (web based) restart a failed daemon syslog parsing remote administration Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dual core processors
Is a stock kernel config the 'fast' way to go on these CPUs? Sure wish there was an 'options I_WANNA_GO_FAST' or an 'options RICKY_BOBBY' that would just do all the right things. Still not sure which scheduler to go with.. On 11/14/06, Juha Saarinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/15/06, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that since we both had HTT tags in the CPU ID, that we had it. Yeah, well... that's a funny thing that tag. Got it on my first-generation 1.3GHz Pentium 4 as well. Makes me wonder if Intel had that feature in the processors very early on, but only enabled it in the later cores. -- Juha http://www.geekzone.co.nz/juha ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: v6 speed compared to previous versions
Fair to say that those tools should be recompiled on a 6 system to ensure full update-ness? On 11/13/06, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 11:39:16AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: When I switched to 6.0, then 6.1, it was noticed by most of my clients that my php/mysql/apache system slowed down a fair bit compared to previous version (5.XX). I always like to be on the bleeding edge of FreeBSD, but the performance hit is being commented about by my (few) mysql/php clients. I've seen the trolls of past about speed and previous versions, and I would really be interested to hear the actual truth about 6.XX speed. It is my understanding that 6.XX is more optimized for multi-processors, and that for a single processor, 5.XX (or even 4.XX) outperforms 6.XX. Would someone please outline the choices/drawbacks/concerns of even considering going back a series? 6.x is 5.x with performance bottlenecks fixed. This applies both to UP and SMP systems. Therefore it's pretty surprising that you're seeing a slowdown between 5.x and 6.x, so you should try to look into exactly why your system seems to be running slower. Perhaps it's just a simple misconfiguration, or related to some other change you made at the same time as you updated. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Zabbix Port out of Date
Im lovin it a lot more than Cacti...I had a graph charting by itself in near real time within 10 minutes. On 11/9/06, David Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, thats awesome news. Zabbix is really a great Product and should be brought forward when possible. Good Bye, David On Nov 10, 2006, at 1:26 AM, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: On 11/9/06, David Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, i am using Zabbix, which is similar to Nagios for those who dont know, to monitor important Servers and Devices in my Network. The Zabbix Version in the Ports is 1.1.1, and it has numerous show- stopping Bugs in it. Fortunately Zabbix 1.1.3 is released which fixes a great many of them. I have the updates ready and will commit them any time soon. !DSPAM:1084,455363526571760115548! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cacti -vs- mrtg
Thats cool..I dont mind the plug. :) I want to build a flexable performance analyzer for netapp boxes on some very critical data..that I can customise per customer if I have to, down to a 10-15sec window. I'll have to check out the other tools..heck..I cant get a stock cacti install to make a graph of my localhost interface counts. I dont wanna get into that here however. Gimme a customer Pb of storage, and a SOW to configure it by... PS: Betcha never heard of the middle aged blonde singer dude fromthe UK. :) On 11/7/06, Howard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Mohler wrote: I can use MRTG, and have MRTG do what I want it to do. Id like to try cacti, but..am I alone in finding that it's a PITA? Im not trying to be negative, just looking for a reality check. I like the simplicity of mrtg, but I like the go back in time of cacti to view performance data. If its just a matter of a package that's not ready for Joe Public (thats me)..Id accept that. :) I think it's more that there's more than one kind of Joe Public. If you want to present your graphs to your customers/users, or a subset to different users, or apply the same set of graphs to a number of different hosts, or make custom rrdtool graphs (stacks, additional graph elements), then Cacti will let you do that. If you just want a quick dirty tool that's easy to configure for your handful of hosts, then MRTG is just the job. We use both where I work, with Cacti for the bulk-graphing and customer facing stuff, and some MRTG where I just knocked up a quick perl script to measure something. Cacti has quite a nice plugin system, and importable templates from other users that you might be able to use to save yourself some time. I find getting my own templates working in Cacti to be a PITA too, though. shamelessplugIt also has some useful plugins, including a couple of my own. The main one of those being PHP Network Weathermap (http://wotsit.thingy.com/haj/cacti/) which will work with both MRTG and Cacti, to produce graphical overviews of your network./shamelessplug Bear in mind there are also other tools out there in the MRTG/Cacti space: DVG, NRG, Hermes, Cricket... rrdtool.org has a list of many. Most are geared towards folks running 100s-1000s of graphs, that I have seen, and may not be your kind of thing, as a result. Best Regards, Howie ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cacti -vs- mrtg
I can use MRTG, and have MRTG do what I want it to do. Id like to try cacti, but..am I alone in finding that it's a PITA? Im not trying to be negative, just looking for a reality check. I like the simplicity of mrtg, but I like the go back in time of cacti to view performance data. If its just a matter of a package that's not ready for Joe Public (thats me)..Id accept that. :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installworld to an NFS mount
If you dont have locking..check it. If you -cant- mount with -L option by hand. On 11/4/06, Jeremy Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings everyone, I currently attempting to build and install a world from my AMD64 machine to a i386 machine mounted via nfs on the build machine. I've searched the archives and could not come up with the problem I am having. I have built the world using make TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld and now I am attempting make TARGET_ARCH=i386 DESTDIR=/mnt/smartserv installworld and it is failing with the following error: install -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 -fschg -S libcrypt.so.3 /mnt/smartserv/lib install: rename: /mnt/smartserv/lib/[EMAIL PROTECTED] to /mnt/smartserv/lib/libcrypt.so.3: Input/output error *** Error code 71 I currently have the following mounts regarding this particular build: 10.0.0.2:/ on /mnt/smartserv (nfs) 10.0.0.2:/usr on /mnt/smartserv/usr (nfs) 10.0.0.2:/var on /mnt/smartserv/var (nfs) If you have any suggestions on what I could be doing wrong, or if I should be using a different method I would appreciate them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com 3c905B-COMBO and 10base2/BNC
What museum is this in, can we visit it? On 11/2/06, Karol Kwiatkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, anyone got 3Com 3c905B-COMBO network card (Fast EtherLink XL PCI) working with 10base2/BNC? I just bought one and I can't figure it out. It has BNC connector and should be supported according to man xl page. With ifconfig_xl0=DHCP in /etc/rc.conf and BNC cable connected (with terminator) ifconfig reports: xl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 options=9RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU inet6 fe80::204:76ff:feed:6697%xl0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:04:76:ed:66:97 media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier dhclient reports xl0: no link. giving up Now, if I manually try to switch to BNC media with: # ifconfig xl0 media 10base2/BNC I get: # xl0: selecting AUI media, half-duplex and a kernel panic (trap 12). The BNC cable itself works with another box. More information below. Any help appreciated. Karol uname: FreeBSD 6.1-SECURITY #0: Mon Aug 28 05:21:08 UTC 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 verbose dmesg: xl0: 3Com 3c905B-COMBO Fast Etherlink XL port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebffc00-0xfebffc7f irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0 xl0: Reserved 0x80 bytes for rid 0x14 type 3 at 0xfebffc00 xl0: using memory mapped I/O xl0: media options word: 3a xl0: found MII/AUTO miibus0: MII bus on xl0 xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto xl0: found AUI xl0: found BNC xl0: bpf attached xl0: Ethernet address: 00:04:76:ed:66:97 xl0: [MPSAFE] vmstat -i: interrupt total rate irq0: clk 561773997 irq1: atkbd0 257 0 irq5: rl0 48 0 irq6: fdc011 0 irq8: rtc 71886127 irq10: xl0 3 0 irq14: ata0 2139 3 irq15: ata1 47 0 Total 636164 1129 -- Karol Kwiatkowski freebsd at orchid dot homeunix dot org OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com 3c905B-COMBO and 10base2/BNC
It...should, its been about I dunno, 1994 since I used one of those tho. It's possible that some code-creep got into the driver that just hasnt been tested for a decade. On 11/2/06, Karol Kwiatkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [format recovered] On 02/11/2006 21:58, Jeff Mohler wrote: On 11/2/06, Karol Kwiatkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, anyone got 3Com 3c905B-COMBO network card (Fast EtherLink XL PCI) working with 10base2/BNC? What museum is this in, can we visit it? Sure, where do I send an invitation? Seriously, it should work if the driver included in the kernel supports it, right? Regards, Karol -- Karol Kwiatkowski freebsd at orchid dot homeunix dot org OpenPGP: http://www.orchid.homeunix.org/carlos/gpg/0x06E09309.asc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iSCSI setup
I got bored, installed this on 5.3 with a Netapp F880. Slow isnt the word..anyone else try this with similar results? Like..max write speed is 600k/sec. On 10/23/06, freebsd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to have my mailboxes put on iSCSI (NetAPP). I downloaded iscsi-17.5.tar.bz2 and have several questions: 1) is there some more documentation on this driver? 2) someone has pointed out how to specify user and password to pass to iscontrol? 3) Which is the correct way to put that source in the kernel and have it compiled? What I need to add to my kernel config file? Is there an howto specifying how to reach the final result of having my FreeBSD boot and mount then iSCSI drive to /iSCSI/myvolume? Thanks a lot ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How much space for ftp.freebsd.org
If I was to ask how much online storage space is required for say..ftp.freebsd.org to hold _everything_ and then add in the kitchen sink, how much space would that be. Who are the admins of the ftp heiarchy these days? Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup*.au.freebsd.org ??
Whats the error they reject with?
On 10/30/06, Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
i'm trying to cvsup /usr/src from cvsup.au.freebsd.org, cvsup2.freebsd.org and
even 3. they are all rejecting my connections...
Is it that I stink ;) or something else is going on?
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Re: Totally hosed up filesystem..wtf?
Appears the issue is in the IBM servers RAID. Its a RAID1, and the mirror raid is totally hosed according to the machine bios, and that hung up the primary side of the mirror when the backup side went tango uniform. On 10/27/06, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reboot single user, cd /var/log and delete anything you can there. Then try fsck. -Derek At 07:26 PM 10/27/2006, Jeff Mohler wrote: So..last night im workin away, and then the machine gets slow, then stops responding to anything. I can ping it, but no telnet, MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from www...anything. claiming to be www...anything. Hung hard. Last thing I saw in a make buildworld was a 'cant write to filesystem' error..or something like that but not a 'no room on device' error. Have my remote helper power cycle it, as he cant get in either. Comes up asking for single user shell, get in, and fsck -y fails with: fsck_ufs: cannot alloc [random # of bytes here] Searching tells me in dead. Running 6.1. Help?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Totally hosed up filesystem..wtf?
Not if fsck wont fix it. ;( But..will give it a shot On 10/28/06, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to remove the bad drive leaving the good one in use. -Derek At 03:18 PM 10/28/2006, Jeff Mohler wrote: Appears the issue is in the IBM servers RAID. Its a RAID1, and the mirror raid is totally hosed according to the machine bios, and that hung up the primary side of the mirror when the backup side went tango uniform. On 10/27/06, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: reboot single user, cd /var/log and delete anything you can there. Then try fsck. -Derek At 07:26 PM 10/27/2006, Jeff Mohler wrote: So..last night im workin away, and then the machine gets slow, then stops responding to anything. I can ping it, but no telnet, MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from www...anything. claiming to be www...anything. Hung hard. Last thing I saw in a make buildworld was a 'cant write to filesystem' error..or something like that but not a 'no room on device' error. Have my remote helper power cycle it, as he cant get in either. Comes up asking for single user shell, get in, and fsck -y fails with: fsck_ufs: cannot alloc [random # of bytes here] Searching tells me in dead. Running 6.1. Help?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Totally hosed up filesystem..wtf?
So..last night im workin away, and then the machine gets slow, then stops responding to anything. I can ping it, but no telnet, www...anything. Hung hard. Last thing I saw in a make buildworld was a 'cant write to filesystem' error..or something like that but not a 'no room on device' error. Have my remote helper power cycle it, as he cant get in either. Comes up asking for single user shell, get in, and fsck -y fails with: fsck_ufs: cannot alloc [random # of bytes here] Searching tells me in dead. Running 6.1. Help?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS client attr caching question..
Can anyone answer these questions? What size the NFS client attribute cache is? Is it a per mount cache, or a systemwide cache? Id appreciate any insight into these answers. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
hmm..Im running the latest code, but I dont see that file fastest_cvsup. On 10/25/06, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 October 2006 06:07, eoghan wrote: On 25 Oct 2006, at 14:03, Gábor Kövesdán wrote: eoghan wrote: Hi Trying to cvsup my ports and server is saying: Rejected by server: Access limit exceeded, try again later So im using cvsup.FreeBSD.org but have tried cvsup1.FreeBSD.org, cvsup2.FreeBSD.org and cvsup3.FreeBSD.org and get the same message... is there something wrong? Thanks Eoghan Hello, try cvsup.countrycode.freebsd.org. E.g. cvsup.de.freebsd.org for Germany, cvsup.hu.freebsd.org, etc. Hi Thanks, that works for me... but the others used to work all the time... anyway updating now... Thanks again Try using fastest_cvsup and you can see what kind of response the servers are providing. I did a fastest_cvsup -c us and it showed at 1837 UTC that 1 and 3 were at the limit and cvsup6 is probably down. They update from the master on the hour and you need to wait 10-15 minutes for the update to finish. There isn't any magic time where they all work but you can find one closer to the next update where you get through almost all of the time. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ I am Andean project. http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvsup
Thanks muchly. :) On 10/26/06, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Mohler wrote: hmm..Im running the latest code, but I dont see that file fastest_cvsup. On 10/25/06, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 25 October 2006 06:07, eoghan wrote: On 25 Oct 2006, at 14:03, Gábor Kövesdán wrote: eoghan wrote: Hi Trying to cvsup my ports and server is saying: Rejected by server: Access limit exceeded, try again later So im using cvsup.FreeBSD.org but have tried cvsup1.FreeBSD.org, cvsup2.FreeBSD.org and cvsup3.FreeBSD.org and get the same message... is there something wrong? Thanks Eoghan Hello, try cvsup.countrycode.freebsd.org. E.g. cvsup.de.freebsd.org for Germany, cvsup.hu.freebsd.org, etc. Hi Thanks, that works for me... but the others used to work all the time... anyway updating now... Thanks again Try using fastest_cvsup and you can see what kind of response the servers are providing. I did a fastest_cvsup -c us and it showed at 1837 UTC that 1 and 3 were at the limit and cvsup6 is probably down. They update from the master on the hour and you need to wait 10-15 minutes for the update to finish. There isn't any magic time where they all work but you can find one closer to the next update where you get through almost all of the time. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ I am Andean project. http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is an optional item. Running pkg_add -r fastest_cvsup will get it for you. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache20 going nuts
I was just there on 5.1 for the last few months..when I did a kdump/ktrace, I saw invalid fnctl's just sucking things up. I nailed it down to something in PHP, because I could trigger this immediately by uploading photos to my coppermine installation, or randomly with zencart. Moving those services to another box but still using mysql on the questionable server was just fine, so I said phuk it and built a new faster box on 6.1 with apache22, the 5.1 sql server, and the latest 5.x PHP. its been fine, and fast as heck. IE: I gave up on finding the problem as its beyond my skills. On 10/25/06, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Recently, occasionally apache starts using lots of processor on one of my servers. This has started out of the blue. I am running apache 2.0.58 and FreeBSD codeine.yoafrica.com 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 17 01:52:21 CAT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CODEINE i386 I have just upgraded to apache 2.0.59. This happens randomly and I can't trace it to anything else. On the webserver, I am running roundcube, vexim, mailman and a couple of very small php apps I've built myself. When I say small I mean very very small. Does anyone have any ideas about what I could do about this. Find out what in apache is using the processor so much. TIA, -John last pid: 70289; load averages: 8.38, 7.15, 3.95 up 52+17:42:14 23:12:10 168 processes: 9 running, 159 sleeping CPU states: 98.1% user, 0.0% nice, 1.9% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 316M Active, 366M Inact, 217M Wired, 50M Cache, 110M Buf, 39M Free Swap: 2004M Total, 142M Used, 1862M Free, 7% Inuse PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATETIME WCPU COMMAND 51874 www 1 1300 19148K 12976K RUN 1:01 12.30% httpd 67045 www 1 1290 16308K 10028K RUN 0:55 11.96% httpd 29639 www 1 1300 19188K 13032K RUN 1:22 11.91% httpd 62291 www 1 1300 19160K 13020K RUN 1:05 11.77% httpd 87078 www 1 1300 19108K 12888K RUN 0:57 11.77% httpd 67445 www 1 1290 22812K 16668K RUN 1:06 11.72% httpd 67056 www 1 1290 18848K 12600K RUN 0:55 11.72% httpd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: two NIC and nfs
Are nic1 and nic2 on the same network? Are client2 and nic2 on the same network? Need a bigger picture with some detail. On 10/23/06, Albert Shih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I've two NIC on my server. Until now I just use one. I want use the second interface to increase perfs. The server have only one purpose : nfsd. Suppose if I do nfs_nic_1 --- client 1 nfs_nic_2 --- client 2 well that's work but not... really because if incomming traffic from client_2 pass through nic_2, all output traffic pass through nic_1. How can I make the all traffic between client_2 and my server pass through nic_2 ? Regards. -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Mon Oct 23 22:58:02 CEST 2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: two NIC and nfs
Well..the right way to do this is with a switch that can etherchannel the NICs together, im not sure if Fbsd can do that..of course. But..are you really peaking out at 100Mb/sec with your existing NFS architechture that you need a second pipe? If you're not, I doubt a second pipe would speed anything up. On 10/23/06, Albert Shih [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le 23/10/2006 à 13:09:21-0800, Jeff Mohler a écrit Are nic1 and nic2 on the same network? Are client2 and nic2 on the same network? Yes all in same subnet, all connected on the same gigabits switch. and all nfs traffic is in UDP. Hi all I've two NIC on my server. Until now I just use one. I want use the second interface to increase perfs. The server have only one purpose : nfsd. Suppose if I do nfs_nic_1 --- client 1 nfs_nic_2 --- client 2 well that's work but not... really because if incomming traffic from client_2 pass through nic_2, all output traffic pass through nic_1. How can I make the all traffic between client_2 and my server pass through nic_2 ? Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. 7 ième étage, plateau D, bureau 10 Heure local/Local time: Mon Oct 23 23:39:46 CEST 2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?
Linux supports more devices than FreeBSD, especially new devices. --- Linux clearly supports many more bugs than FreeBSD as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?
That was after I left Netapp for a spell (and later came back once the vacation ran out) and it was supported before then by _something_ linux. That was fall of 03. Not trying to debate..just it'll still be 08 before it's likely to be universally supported. On 10/16/06, Alexandre Vieira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/16/06, Jeff Mohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space. I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the amazing lack of iscsi support. Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe 2003? C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long? On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or intellectual gymnastics will help you. Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and feature rich as OpenBSD. Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can emulate linux binaries too. I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. If you like it, stick to it , else go back. Nobody is forcing you. But remember, give it enough time and be open. regards, Girish ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, As far as I can tell Linux only had mainstream/official iscsi support in 2.6.12 (2005-06). -- Alexandre Vieira - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD?
Linux has iSCSI...which hands Fbsd a real beating in the server space. I work on projects at more customers than I can keep track of that -have- to use Linux in the middle of Fbsd farms just because of the amazing lack of iscsi support. Linux has been doing iscsi since what..2002 or so? Maybe 2003? C;mon..yes, I know a brave soul is starting work on it now, but how did the Fbsd effort let this lie for so long? On 10/15/06, Girish Venkatachalam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:35:13AM -0400, Andy Harrison wrote: On 10/15/06, William Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, basically, I'm asking you guys to wow me. :-) Show me how FreeBSD can outdo Linux. Make me never want to go back. Ah well, you have to experience it. No amount of convincing or intellectual gymnastics will help you. Know that in the software ecosystem there is a place for everything. There are situations in which you have to use linux and even Windoze. But things are so vibrant that more and more Windoze apps are available in linux and FreeBSD and also in NetBSD and OpenBSD. Personally for me linux has very good support for a wide range of TV cards, remote controls and other rare hardware. BSDs also have support but somewhat limited. FreeBSD gives you CCD,GEOM,GDBE, netgraph and various other features hard to find in other OSes. Some equivalents exist but not as good. OpenBSD has very good IPsec , pf , BGP and other networking stuff. pf is also available on FreeBSD but I doubt if it is as well integrated and feature rich as OpenBSD. Linux has a lousy file system and is somewhat unstable and will throw surprises if you stress it or use it in unexpected ways. Whereas BSDs have very very good stability. For instance FreeBSD will give roughly 20 to 30% better overall performance compared to Linux. This is subjective and dependent on various factors but this has been my experience. In terms of packages FreeBSD I think has the largest number since it can emulate linux binaries too. I can go on but I suggest you try things with an open mind. If you like it, stick to it , else go back. Nobody is forcing you. But remember, give it enough time and be open. regards, Girish ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iSCSI support..
Freebsd ever hope to have a stable supported iscsi layer? Thanks for any hints. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS Client..attr caching..
here at work we want to compile deep trees of code on Fbsd boxes, but we are finding that the compiles on local disk are faster than via NFS (very very fast/new Netapp boxes) on the FreeBSD boxes (single spindle SATA drives). However, cross-compiling the same code on a linux box over NFS to the very same Netapp boxes is way faster than Fbsd on local disk. Im trying of course to get the mount options/etc that the linux boxes use, but any clues on how to mount a 150k file deep source tree to most effectively cache getattr/readdir metadata which seems to be an enourmous percentage of the total NFS calls in the compile process. Thanks in advance..as I get more data. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
