Re: Soekris for a Trac server

2013-10-01 Thread John Levine
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Dunno about Soekris, but I'm very happy with one of these
mini-box systems that cost about $250 with a 60GB SSD disk:

http://www.mini-box.com/MiniPC-Value-Systems

I got a fan but it doesn't need it.  It runs ordinary amd64 FreeBSD
9.1, installed from a thumb drive.  It provides DNS, DHCP, and some
other random services on my home network.

It's also my backup server, running a four drive ZFS raid with an
ESATA controller, so I bumped the RAM up to 4GB.  My only complaint is
that the PCI slot doesn't have a matching cutout on the back panel for
for the ESATA adapter I have to use a riser card and leave the cover
off, which looks stupid but looks fine. 

It's just like any other FreeBSD box do I don't see why it wouldn't
run jails perfecty well.

R's,
John


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Re: WANTED: Tool to verify installed package/port consistancy

2013-05-09 Thread John Levine
I expect the reason you won't find a port verifier is that the usual
way to recover from a situation like yours is to reinstall them all:

# portupgrade --all --force

This might take longer than trying to verify them, but it has the
advantage of not needing a lot of attention (use -DBATCH to skip
config steps) and when you're done, the packages have all been updated
and fixed.

Doing a general port verifier is a pain because the scripts called from
make install can run arbitrary programs.

R's,
John

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Portsnap gets ports that claim to be out of date

2013-03-29 Thread John Levine
When I do portsnap update and try building stuff, I get errors like this:

Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 5: warning: You are using a ports file that originated 
from CVS!!
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 6: warning: The FreeBSD project has switched from CVS to 
SubVersion.
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 7: warning: This CVS repository is NO LONGER UPDATED!  
If you see this
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 8: warning: message then your tree is STALE and you need 
to follow
Mk/bsd.port.mk, line 9: warning: the update instructions to receive any more 
updates.

I'm not using CVS, I'm using portsnap.  Any ideas?  It's a 9.1 system,
fully up to date as far as I know.

 
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Re: day light saving time happened today

2013-03-10 Thread John Levine
day light saving time happened early sunday morning and the time shown 
by the date command is still one hour behind. I just did a clean 9.1 
install from cdrom and selected the correct time zone for my location.

I don't see any entry for daylight saving time in tzsetup

I though the EDT had daylight saving time built in.

It does.  Any chance your computer's clock got reset an hour slow?

My 8.3 and 9.1 systems handled the daylight switch just like they were
supposed to.

-- 
Regards,
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Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly

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Strange delays in ZFS scrub or resilver

2013-02-23 Thread John Levine
I have a raidz of three 1 TB SATA drives, in USB enclosures.  One of
the disks went bad, so I replaced it last night and it's been
resilvering ever since.  I can watch the activity lights on the disks
and it cranks away for a minute or so, then stops for a minute, then
cranks for a minute, and so forth.  If I do a zpool status while it's
stopped, the zpool waits until the I/O resumes, and a ^T shows it
waiting for zio-io_cv.

I'm running FreeBSD 9.1, amd64 version, totally vanilla install on a
mini-itx box with 4GB of RAM.  The root/swap disk is an SSD separate
from the zfs disks.  When the disks are active, top shows about 10%
system time and 4% interrupt.  When it isn't, top shows about 99.8%
idle.  The server isn't doing much else, and nothing else currently
touches the disks.  (They're for remote backup of a system somewhere
else, and I have the backup job turned off until resilvering
completes.)

I'm running this on the console, and there are no disk error messages.

Any idea what's going on or how to fix it?  I could move the disks to
an ESATA enclosure if USB is losing interrupts or something.

My recollection is that when I've done a scrub, it does the same thing,
work, pause, work, pause.

R's,
John
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Re: sh script ?

2013-01-24 Thread John Levine
I get this message [: 10.0.10.21: bad number on this code

[ ${saved_ip} -eq ${used_ip} ]  echo good match

Both variables have valid ip addresses in them.
Why does it think the variable content is a number and not text?
What am I doing wrong?

My guess would be that you didn't read the man page for the test
(sometimes spelled [ ) command.



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Re: which version of FBSD should i install?

2013-01-08 Thread John Levine
   I want the Gnome Desktop, espeak, and gvim.  If there is a CD 
   or DVD with 9.x, can somebody give me a URL?

The usual place:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/announce.html

I'm typing this on a Thinkpad X200, which works well under 9.0.

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Re: Help! Firefox + acroread costs me $$$$

2012-12-12 Thread John Levine
So, on FreeBSD, how does one get firefox and/or opera to use, for example,
evince or some other PDF displayer instead of using this goddamn lousey
buggy *^%$#@ acroread ?

In Firefox, Edit-Preferences, click the Applications tab, look for
application/pdf and make the obvious adjustments.

I find that for nearly everything else, chromium works better than
firefox, but for PACER, only Firefox supports RECAP.  You do use
RECAP, I hope.

R's,
John

PS: On my FBSD 9.0, acroread8 works OK, much slower than evince but in
some cases it renders the PDF better, and often translates to
postscript better for printing.
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Re: SMS application

2012-12-06 Thread John Levine
In article blu0-smtp19ad48d80755ecda768cb193...@phx.gbl you write:
Can anyone recommend a good SMS application that works on FreeBSD? I
have used several different ones on MS Windows; however, I cannot find
one that works on FreeBSD. There doesn't appear to be a fully
functional one in the ports system either, although I might have missed
it.

What do you want to do?  If you just want to send SMS, there are plenty
of vendors that have http interfaces that you can script with wget or
www libraries in perl, python, and the other usual suspects.

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Re: Building Ports: Is there a make equivalent for --batch ?

2012-10-07 Thread John Levine
... Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer
yes to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual
intervention during the build process.

(This was said with respect to upgrading ports via portupgrade.)

Or you can use portmaster, which runs through all the ports first and
does the config dialogs before starting the rebuild.  There are stil
a few places it can get stuck, but many fewer than portupgrade.

Portmaster is worth a look just out of amazement. It is a 4,000 line
shell script.

R's,
John
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Re: iso image question

2012-08-26 Thread John Levine
In article alpine.bsf.2.00.1208261419520.56...@fledge.watson.org you write:
I have a CD that was burned (but not labeled so well). Is is possible to tell 
if 
this is an i386 or amd64 image?

Sure.  Mount it, do a file on some of the programs in /bin and see whether 
they're
i386 or x86-64 code.

R's,
John
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Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John Levine
I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and PHP 5.4.5.

In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of random 
errors,
they hang, errors claiming that builtins like require_once() are not found, and
other stuff.  I don't see any pattern.  I also can't figure out what's changed.
I update the ports fairly often, but none of the recent updates were for apache
or PHP.

I've done all the usual voodoo repair: I have rebuilt apache, php, and
all the php modules from source, and rebooted, and it didn't help.

Does this sound familiar?  Any suggestions beyond what I've already done?

R's,
John




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Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John Levine
 Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with 
 the 
 latest.

Hmmn, that might have been it.

I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without 
APC.

Tried it without APC, didn't help.  We're back to the theory that there's
something in PHP 5.4.5 that builds OK on 9.0 but not on 8.x.

R's,
John
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Firefox 13.0.1.1 won't build under 8.3 on amd64

2012-08-12 Thread John Levine
I'm reasonably sure I have the png and sqlite3 libraries built as
needed, but the build still barfs when compiling the SSL function
nsNSSErrors.cpp.  The end of the build log is copied below.

I don't have the logs handy, but Thunderbird fails the same way.  Any
suggestions?

R's,
John


c++ -o nsNSSErrors.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers -include 
../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC -DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\ 
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1 -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM 
-DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET 
-DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API 
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I../../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include 
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include 
-I/usr/local/include-fPIC -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall 
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy 
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros -Wcast-align 
-O2 
 -pipe -f
 no-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss 
 -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../../mozilla-config.h 
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSErrors.cpp
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHash::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:2879:
 error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHMAC::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:3070:
 error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
gmake[5]: *** [nsNSSComponent.o] Error 1
gmake[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
gmake[5]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl/src'
gmake[4]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager'
gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 1



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Re: Firefox 14.0.1 won't build under 8.3 on amd64

2012-08-12 Thread John Levine
Oops, it's 14.0.1 I'm trying to build.  13.0.0.1 is what I have installed now.

In article 20120813053621.24629.qm...@joyce.lan you write:
I'm reasonably sure I have the png and sqlite3 libraries built as
needed, but the build still barfs when compiling the SSL function
nsNSSErrors.cpp.  The end of the build log is copied below.

I don't have the logs handy, but Thunderbird fails the same way.  Any
suggestions?

R's,
John


c++ -o nsNSSErrors.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers
-include ../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC 
-DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1
-DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API 
-D_IMPL_NS_GFX
-D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  
-DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss -I..
+ /../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr
-I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include-fPIC
-I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  
-I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros 
-Wcast-align -O2 
 -pipe -f
 no-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
 -ffunction-sections
-fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer  
-I/usr/local/include/nss
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT 
-include
../../../../mozilla-config.h
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSErrors.cpp
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In
member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHash::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:2879:
error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In
member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHMAC::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:3070:
error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
gmake[5]: *** [nsNSSComponent.o] Error 1
gmake[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
gmake[5]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl/src'
gmake[4]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[4]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager'
gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 1



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Re: Patent hit - MS goes after Linux - FreeBSD ?

2012-08-04 Thread John Levine
 Out of curiosity has anyone ever heard of trolls patenting open source
 technologies after the fact?

The prior art stipulations pretty much kills that off, unless they make a
genuine improvement/change to it to not qualify under that, then they would
be well within patent law to apply for a patent.

The patent office has never been very good at examining software
patents, and I have made a lot of money helping companies document the
prior art not cited in patents that are being asserted against them.

R's,
John
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Re: Firefox 14 build broken due to wrong libpng

2012-07-30 Thread John Levine
In article 20120730045308.gh7...@mail3.dcoder.net you write:
same problem.  so i rebuilt png w/ 

   OPTIONS=APNG Animated PNG support On

firefox build still fails because of complaints about APNG.  what am i missing
here?

I rebuilt png with APNG turned on (make  make deinstall  make install clean)

The png errors went away but it still failed.  The last few lines of the log 
are below.

This is 8.3 on amd64, ports are as far as I know fully up to date.

Regards,
John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies,
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly



c++ -o nsNSSCallbacks.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers -include 
../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC -DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\ 
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1 -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM 
-DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET 
-DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API 
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I../../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include 
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include 
-I/usr/local/include-fPIC -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall 
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy 
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros -Wcast-align 
-
 O2 -pipe
  -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss 
 -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../../mozilla-config.h 
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSCallbacks.cpp
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsProtectedAuthThread.cpp:
 In member function 'void nsProtectedAuthThread::Run()':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsProtectedAuthThread.cpp:164:
 warning: unused variable 'rv'
nsNSSComponent.cpp
c++ -o nsNSSComponent.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers -include 
../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC -DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\ 
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1 -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM 
-DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET 
-DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API 
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I../../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include 
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include 
-I/usr/local/include-fPIC -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall 
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy 
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros -Wcast-align 
-
 O2 -pipe
  -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss 
 -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../../mozilla-config.h 
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp
nsNSSErrors.cpp
c++ -o nsNSSErrors.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers -include 
../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC -DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\ 
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1 -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM 
-DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET 
-DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API 
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I../../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include 
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include 
-I/usr/local/include-fPIC -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall 
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy 
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros -Wcast-align 
-O2 
 -pipe -f
 no-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss 
 -I/usr

Re: for the impatient: Linux LibreOffice works on FreeBSD

2012-07-19 Thread John Levine
What sort of errors did you encounter while building the package using 
the ports?

The first problem is that it now demands clang-devel, which conflicts
with chromium which still wants regular clang.

Any idea how likely it is that chromium will build if I tell it to use
clang-devel?

R's,
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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

2012-07-15 Thread John Levine
Is there any such a tool (as fsck for FAT32) available for freeBSD?  If so,
where would I find it?

There's fsck_msdosfs, part of the base system.  Regular fsck should
call it automatically if you run it on a FAT filesystem.

R's,
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Re: portupgrade -- is there a way to only build and update ports that actually NEED it?

2012-06-25 Thread John Levine
You would think there's an option to portupgrade that says don't upgrade 
every single package I've got, but if somewhere in the dependency chain I 
need a newer version of a thing, then do it.

The problem is that the versioning in the ports system doesn't
distinguish between upgrades that present interface changes and
upgrades that are just nits, new features, or minor bug fixes.
Port makefiles can contain version dependency info, e.g., this
port needs at least version N.M of package X, but few of them do.

This has bitten me in the past with PHP and pcre.  In fact, PHP5
won't work with old versions of pcre, but the PHP port maintainer
refuses to put in version dependency info, because he thinks that
every port should be up to date all the time.

R's,
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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-23 Thread John Levine
 snafu on my part freebsd 8.3 also uses zfs pool version 28:-)

No, 8.3 uses version 15.  It's been quite stable for me.

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Re: Is ZFS production ready?

2012-06-23 Thread John Levine
 snafu on my part freebsd 8.3 also uses zfs pool version 28:-)

No, 8.3 uses version 15.  It's been quite stable for me.

Sorry, I misread my notes, 8.2 uses v 15, 8.3 uses v 28.

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Building libreoffice on 8.3 x86-64, not

2012-06-22 Thread John Levine
I have an 8.3 x86-64 system, fully patched, all ports but one up to date.

When I try to build libreoffice, it fails in various sub-builds.  Most of
the sub-builds work when I retry them, except for tail_build which fails
repeatedly.

It's using clang for the build, but I don't see any option to use GCC.

Any suggestions?  I have 500 megabytes of build logs if anyone wants
to look at them.

R's,
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Free space in ZFS

2012-06-15 Thread John Levine
I made a three disk zraid ZFS pool yesterday from three new 1 TB
disks, which I'm using for backup.  Then I did a backup and made a zfs
volume.  The free space numbers don't make sense.  This is on 8.3, ZFS
version 15.

# zpool list
NAME  SIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
backup2  2.72T   310G  2.42T11%  ONLINE  -

Given that it's zraid, the total available space should be a little
under 2TB since the third disk is for parity.  But zpool gives me a
total of 2.72T, as though the third disk was for data.

# zfs list
NAMEUSED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
backup2 206G  1.58T  31.3K  /backup2
backup2/20120615206G  1.58T   206G  /backup2/20120615

Well, that makes more sense, total is 1.78Tb.

# df -g
Filesystem1G-blocks Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
backup216180  1618 0%/backup2
backup2/20120615   1825  206  161811%/backup2/20120615

Now the total is 1.82Tb.  Huh?  The backup filesystems are compressed,
but surely they're showing me the actual size, not the uncompressed
size.  Or are they?

R's,
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Re: Kernel Panic any help?

2012-05-25 Thread John Levine
panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch

Something's fairly badly screwed up on your disk.  My advice would be
to boot from a CD or USB key and run fsck to try to repair it.

R's,
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Re: Fast question abount EDITOR

2012-04-05 Thread John Levine
 Do I really need a script which in turns call emacs -nw?
Authoritative answer: 'maybe'. grin

There may be an alternative to the obvious one line shell script, but
that's what one line shell scripts are for.  One of the strengths of
Unix is that its design encourages people to solve problems by
composing existing tools rather than by adding ever more options to
every program.

R's,
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PS: I realize that over the decades we have strayed somewhat from this ideal.
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Re: Maildir Format

2012-02-17 Thread John Levine
Can anyone suggest a MUA which has support for Maildir that I can use?

Pine is dead, replaced by alpine.  The FreeBSD port has a config option
to support maildirs.  I've used it, it works.

R's,
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Re: Printing directly to IP address

2012-02-14 Thread John Levine
same way I do, via a wireless network. The difference is that I am
using CUPS to achieve that goal. My friend would like to do it sans
CUPS if possible.

If the printer supports the hoary lpd protocol, you can configure it
in /etc/printcap.  If it wants socket or IPP protocols, CUPS is the
least painful route.

Installing CUPS on freebsd is pretty straightforward.  The main wart
is that you have to manually move all the lpr commands in /usr/bin out
of the way and symlink them to the CUPS versions in /usr/local/bin.
Other than that, the web config works great, and it has drivers for
vast numbers of printers, particularly when you also install hplip.

R's,
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Re: USB 3 / eSATA support

2012-02-03 Thread John Levine
I have an two-disk external box with both USB and eSATA interface.  Go
with eSATA, which is better supported as a disk.  I use mine as a ZFS
mirror.

I have a SiI3124 SATA controller which isn't recognized by the generic kernel, 
but works
fine once I put a suitable hint in loader.conf:

# for external SATA
siis_load=YES

I also have three USB disks configured as a ZFS RAID which I use for
backups.  It works OK, but I wouldn't want to depend on it from day to
day.

R's,
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Re: FreeBSD 9 on Lenovo X200 what works?

2012-01-25 Thread John Levine
I'm running 8.2 on an X200.  For the most part everything works.  My
main complaint is that the sound is very quiet, and I haven't found
the setting to fix that.

Video and wifi work fine.  The kernel sees the camera and the thumb
reader but I haven't looked for applications that use them.

R's,
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Re: df with ZFS vs. zpool list

2011-12-15 Thread John Levine
Each of SATA-drives is about 80G in size. When using df -h I'm only
receiving

storage145G42k 145G0%  /storage

where I expected something like 220GB (due to the �-issue). However,

It's raidz.  The third disk is parity for the first two.

   NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
   storage ONLINE   0 0 0
 raidz1-0  ONLINE   0 0 0
   ada1ONLINE   0 0 0
   ada2ONLINE   0 0 0
   ada3ONLINE   0 0 0

R's,
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What's wrong with this code?

2011-12-12 Thread John Levine
This tiny routine is in a .so loadable module I use.  (It's part of the 
mailfront
SMTP daemon.)

static const char* date_string(void)
{
  static char datebuf[64];
  time_t now = time(0);
  struct tm* tm = gmtime(now);
  strftime(datebuf, sizeof datebuf - 1, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S -, tm);
  return datebuf;
}

I was getting bogus dates.  Running it under GDB, time() is returning
-1, and setting errno to 22, which is EINVAL.  Changing the call to
time to time(NULL) or time(now) made no difference.

I changed it to a call to gettimeofday(), which works fine.  But what
could the problem have been?  When I splice this routine into a tiny
test program that calls it and prints out the result, it works fine.

The obvious problem, since it's in a .so, is that it's linking to something 
other than
the system library time() function, but I did an nm on the .so, and it said 
this,
which sure looks like the system time() function to me:

 U time@@FBSD_1.0

Setting a breakpoint in gdb gets a complaint about trying to set a breakpoint 
in /lib/libc.so.7.

Any ideas what the problem was?

R's,
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Re: How do you rebuild wpa_supplicant?

2011-11-12 Thread John Levine

Look in /usr/src/usr.sbin/wpa.


Oh, duh.  I used to know that.  Tnx.

R's,
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How do you rebuild wpa_supplicant?

2011-11-11 Thread John Levine
I would like to rebuild wpa_supplicant to increase the maximum number
of APs from 128 to 255.  (I'm sitting in an airline lounge at LAX
where there are 191 visible APs.)

When I use csup to check out the source, there aren't any makefiles.
I tried copying in makefiles from the base wpa tarball, which didn't
work.

Any suggestions how one rebuilds this?  If it matters, I'm using 8.2
RELEASE.

R's,
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Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread John Levine
I'm not a huge fan of CUPS, but at this point it's the best of a bad
lot.  I find the queueing useful, since I often print documents long
enough that I don't want to wait.

More importantly, CUPS, for me at least, seems to be quite slow.
There's a lng pause after I queue something for printing
until something actually comes out of the printer.

Yeah.  I have a similar printer with a similar problem.  I believe
that what's going on is that the current version of CUPS tells all the
clients to print to PDF, then for printers that don't handle PDF,
converts that to postcript using ghostscript which is very, very slow.

I think this is a bug. A few versions ago it used to tell clients to
print postscript which it can send directly to my printer.  I also
looked at using pdftops, which is much faster, to convert the PDF, but
the call to ghostscript and the ghostscript command options are wired
into the CUPS code and were more hassle to change than I wanted to do.

R's,
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Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS

2011-10-27 Thread John Levine

I'm not a huge fan of CUPS, but at this point it's the best of a bad
lot.  I find the queueing useful, since I often print documents long
enough that I don't want to wait.

I don't quite understand the issue you are raising john.

$ lpr foo
$ lpr bar
$ lpr baz

It will print the three files in a row, starting each when the previous
one is done.  Like, you know, a print queue.

John are you saying that my documents, some of which *start out* as
.PS files, are converted by CUPS to .PDF and thence (since I don't
have any printers that speak PDF) the document is then converted
*back* to Postscript for actual printing??

Seems that way, based on a little poking around.  If I use something
like evince, I think it will do whatever CUPS tells it to do.  If I
use the basic CUPS lpr command to print a .ps file, that's fast since
there's nothing smart enough to do something stupid.

I think this is a bug.

If it is, then I think it may be a long-standing one.

I did something very like what I just described doing on FreeBSD 8.2 also
back on my old FreeBSD 7.0 system which I first installed maybe three years
of more ago.

My recollection is that CUPS on FBSD 7 printed a lot faster, although
it also may have something to do with the fact that I used to use a
USB to parallel thing, and since then I scored a print server card on
ebay for about $15 and print over the network.  (There are other
computers on the network that other people print from, so this is an
overall win.)

R's,
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Re: Updating emacs fails

2011-10-23 Thread John Levine
anything useful that might help you to fix the problem.  We'd need to see

   * Your choice of options for the port (ie. 'make showconfig' output)

   * A complete build log showing the problem occurring. (ie  'make
 clean build' output)

   * The config.log from $WRKSRC showing what autoconf did.

I put them at http://www.taugh.com/emacsbuild.txt

R's,
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Re: Updating emacs fails

2011-10-23 Thread John Levine
ncurses is already in the base system - with different options. ...

 Did you try installing the ncurses port and then rebuilding emacs? For 
 some reason the library in the ncurses port doesn't define the termcap 
 routines, leading to the problem.

Whether or not the termcap routines are provided isn't configurable.
However, emacs could be confused since they're implemented on top
of terminfo.

It sounds to me like the right thing to do is to fix emacs' configuration
so it always uses the base system ncurses whether or not the package
version is there.  Right?

R's,
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Updating emacs fails

2011-10-22 Thread John Levine
For at least several weeks, attempts to rebuild emacs from ports fails
with an odd linker error saying it can't find symbols in the termcap
library.  I poked around a little, the makefile does include the
appropriate library and adding it again at the end of the line in
the makefile didn't help.

This is on 8.2, building it with no nonstandard options I'm aware of.

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Re: Do you find chrome on FreeBSD buggy?

2011-10-15 Thread John Levine
I've had the same problem with recent versions on amd64 8.2.

The versions at http://chromium.hybridsource.org/ work much better.
They cost a little money but it's worth it.

R's,
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Re: PGP or GPG

2011-10-01 Thread John Levine
In article 20111001173958.GA30989@hs1.VERBENA you write:
Can anyone think of any compelling reasons why PGP should be used
instead of GPG?

The GNU copyleft can be a deal killer in some applications.

R's,
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Re: dump/restore, how to reduce slice size

2011-09-30 Thread John Levine
 # df -h
 Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad4s1a  2G206M1.6G11%/
 devfs  1.0k1.0k  0B   100%/dev
 /dev/ad4s1e3.9G 13M3.6G 0%/tmp
 /dev/ad4s1f 40G 25G 12G67%/usr
 /dev/ad4s1d 31G3.6G 24G13%/var
 procfs 4.0k4.0k  0B   100%/proc
 /dev/ad2s1f 39G 25G 10G71%/mnt
 devfs  1.0k1.0k  0B   100%/var/named/dev


 as you can see /dev/ad4s1f is 40G and /dev/ad2s1f is 39G
 but on ad4s1f only 25G used.

 How can I dump /dev/ad4s1f and restore it on /dev/ad2s1f?

You can't.  ad4s1f has 25G of files, but ad2s1f only has 10G of
free space.  You need a bigger disk.

If you're just moving things around, I agree that a $100 USB
disk is the best way to store backups temporarily.

R's,
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Re: About suidperl in FreeBSD

2011-09-30 Thread John Levine
Since Perl 5.12 there is no SUIDPERL option in config.

It's not a FreeBSD change.  SUIDPERL is gone from the 5.12
perl distribution.  Using 5.10 is a temporary band-aid, but
sooner or later you'll need to rewrite your scripts not to
need suid perl programs, either by writing a small suid C
wrapper, or perhaps using sudo.

R's,
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Re: ot : stuck in GRUB

2011-09-27 Thread John Levine
GRUB is the boot program for several versions of Linux, not for FreeBSD.

For a useful answer, ask where Linux weenies hang out, not here.

Or even better, just google for the text of the error message.

R's,
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Re: ICMP redirects and FreeBSD

2011-09-17 Thread John Levine
In article 201109180353.vaa25...@lariat.net you write:
Here's a networking question: Does FreeBSD generate and accept ICMP 
redirects? Is it controllable via tuneables? How long do routing 
tables generated by ICMP redirects last?

See  man 4 inet  and  man 4 route

R's,
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Re: Huge interrupt overhead reported after RAM added to Atom-based system

2011-09-03 Thread John Levine
I'd like to experiment with having FreeBSD try to use less than the 
full 4 GB (e.g., to make it act as if memory ended at, say, 3 GB) 
but I'm not sure how to tell the kernel to do that.

In /boot/loader.conf set hw.physmem to whatever size you want it to use.

man loader for more info

R's,
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gnome-open won't open my browser

2011-08-20 Thread John Levine
gnome-open is the program that opens your browser when you click
on a link in gnome-terminal.  Except that recently it's started
opening Gedit, the gnome text editor, instead.

I have triple super checked to be absolutely sure that the preferred
web browser application is my browser (chrome).  Since I never use
gedit, I have stuck in a kludge, replacing gedit with a one line shell
script that runs chrome instead, but that's silly.

Any suggestions where gnomo-open is getting the idea to run gedit
rather than a browser?

R's,
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Re: editors/openoffice.org-3

2011-05-30 Thread John Levine
 I wouldn't mind using one of the packages but they want perl version
 5.12 and I don't want to use that just for OO.

Either use -f to force it to go ahead anyway, and then pkgdb -F to fix
the dependencies, or else unpack it, edit the dependecy file, repack
it, and install it.  The latter sounds gross but actually takes about
five minutes.

R's,
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Re: Input file for shutdown warning?

2011-05-16 Thread John Levine
In article 20110517021633.26b47...@gumby.homeunix.com you write:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:38:21 -0700
Alexander Lardner linuxtu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 Is it possible to do something like this:
 
 shutdown -p now /root/somefile

 # shutdown - -p now  /root/somefile

If you had read the man page, you would already know that.

R's,
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Re: Comparing two lists

2011-05-06 Thread John Levine
Some 10,000 to 20,000 lines each. I do need only the common lines. Order 
is not essential, but would make life easier. I've tried a little with 
uniq, as suggested by Polyptron, but I guess 3am is not quite the right 
time to do these things. Anyway, thanks.

 sort -u file1  sorted-file1
 sort -u file2  sorted-file2
 comm -12 sorted-file1 sorted-file2  result

R's,
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Re: malloc: errno: 22: Invalid argument

2011-04-09 Thread John Levine
-- snip
#include err.h
#include errno.h
#include stdlib.h

int main(void)
{
int *i;
warn(errno: %d, errno);
i = malloc(sizeof(int));
warn(errno: %d, errno);
free(i);
return (errno);
}
-- snip

Your code is wrong.  There's only a useful value in errno after
something fails.  This would be more reasonable:

int main(void)
{
int *i;
/* warn(errno: %d, errno); -- no error, nothing to check */
i = malloc(sizeof(int));
if(!i)warn(errno: %d, errno); /* only warn on failure */
free(i);/* -- free ignores NULL argument */
return (0); /* -- free cannot fail, no meaningful errno */
}

This isn't specific to FreeBSD, by the way.  It's ANSI C.

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Re: Merging CIDR lists

2011-04-07 Thread John Levine
In article alpine.bsf.2.00.1104071026040.41...@wonkity.com you write:
Does anyone have a convenient way to merge a list of CIDR netblocks?

Using Net::CIDR or Net::CIDR::Lite, both of which are in the ports,
this script will do it:

- snip -
use Net::CIDR;

print join(' ',Net::CIDR::cidradd(@ARGV)) . \n;
- snip -
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Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4

2011-03-31 Thread John Levine
In article 4d948902.6000...@wallnet.com you write:
Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4...

Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already 
written or available.  If there isn't, does anyone have any hints?

It's unchanged from 3.6, or at least, when I upgraded from 3.6 to 4
Java kept working.

This link explains it pretty well:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010

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Re: MySQL 3 needed but how?

2011-03-26 Thread John Levine
In article 4d8e1e4a.5000...@shopzeus.com you write:

Hi,

I have an old backup from a MySQL data directory. It was created with 
MySQL version 3. If I install MySQL 4 then I get this message telling 
that the table was created with a different MySQL version.

You should be able to restore the individual database directories
under mysql 4 and use ALTER TABLE to upgrade the file formats.  You'll
lose the user access stuff, but that's usually easy enough to
reconstruct.

In MySQL, each database is self-describing.  That is, for database
foo, the files in the foo/ directory are both the description of
the tables and the data in them.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/upgrading-from-3-23.html

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Re: IP Address not working?

2011-03-25 Thread John Levine
 inet 66.111.0.250 netmask 0xffc0 broadcast 66.111.0.255
 inet 66.111.0.251 netmask 0x broadcast 66.111.0.251

That netmask should probably be 0xffc0, same as for .250, but ...

However, I cannot access the website from outside the box, even with PF 
turned off:

As I recall, on 7.x you still need to to do arp -s so other hosts on
the LAN can find it.

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Re: How to tell whether CPU supports x64?

2011-03-17 Thread John Levine
I have a remote server, and I'd like to know if it will support
64-bit instructions. Is there some way I can tell? It's running 32-bit
FreeBSD right now.

From dmesg.boot:
   Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
   CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (2387.76-MHz 686-class CPU)
   Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
   
 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
   Features2=0x4400CNTX-ID,b14
   Logical CPUs per core: 2
   real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
   avail memory = 1041502208 (993 MB)
   ACPI APIC Table: DELL   PE1750  
   FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
   cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
   cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1

Looking at the Intel web site, the only Xeon I see that runs at 2.4GHz
and has two cores with two threads is the Xeon 3060, which does indeed
provide the 64 bit instruction set.

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27205processor=3060spec-codes=SL9TZ,SL9ZH,SLACD
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Re: How to tell whether CPU supports x64?

2011-03-17 Thread John Levine
 yes that is correct, LM stands for Long Mode which indicates amd64 support.
 If your CPU doesn't list it, it's either a 32 bit only CPU, or it's a bug.

. . . or maybe it is a 64 bit CPU that is not x86_64/amd64 compatible.
Do IA-64 (Itanium), IBM POWER, and SPARC 64 bit processors use the same
Long Mode functionality?

This processor is currently running IA32 code.  If you know any
dual mode IA32/SPARC chips, I'd be most interested to hear about them.

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Strange interaction between dump and NFS

2011-03-14 Thread John Levine
Every day, in my logs I see this on an 8.2-RELEASE server:

Mar 14 03:11:14 leila mountd[937]: can't export / 
Mar 14 03:11:14 leila mountd[937]: bad exports list line /  -maproot

and, indeed, showmout shows that the root isn't exported and NFS
mounts of the exported root filesystem stop working.  But if I do a
kill -HUP of mountd, the export comes back and resumes working.  (The
/etc/exports file is fine, and does not change.)

What happens at 3:11 AM is that dump starts running on the root file
system.  I use a -L flag, so that's when it's doing the snapshot,
which somehow seems to be confusing the mount daemon.  But I also
dump /var and /usr a little later, and they don't have this problem.

The only difference I can see is that /var and /usr have soft updates,
while the root doesn't.  Any insight into what the heck is going on?

To recap:

* All three filesystems are NFS exported and are working normally
* Dump starts, nothing should change in NFS, but / export stops working
* Poke mountd, / export resumes workng.

R's,
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Re: Unable to umount

2011-03-12 Thread John Levine
 [robert@dell64] ~ umount Flash
 umount: unmount of /home/robert/Flash failed: Device busy

Try umount -f

The problem is likely that HAL or one of its friends helpfully has the
device open just in case you might want to ask questions about it.

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Re: Fastest way to get an entire FBSD system back online?

2011-03-03 Thread John Levine
 It's not as automated as the Windows approach, but if you know what
 you're doing it's mostly limited by the speed of the disks. ...

Unlike Windows, UNIX gives you the ability to create a fully
programmable automated approach according to your needs, e. g. for
multiple installations, defective systems can be booted via LAN, USB
or CD, ...

Of course.  But the more interesting question is whether anyone's done
that, e.g., a script to put dumps and a description of the disk setup
on a backup device, and a boot image that will take the description
and the dumps and put them back.  As far as I know, nobody has.

R's,
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Re: Fastest way to get an entire FBSD system back online?

2011-03-02 Thread John Levine
Is there something similar in the FBSD arena?...some form of backing
up a server so that if a drive fails, upon replacement of the
drive(s), the OS can be very quickly recovered from a backup (of some
sort), or from an image, etc.?

I've found that if you make normal backups using dump to a USB disk
and keep an install CD handy, it's pretty quick to boot the CD,
partition and format the disk, and then restore.

It's not as automated as the Windows approach, but if you know what
you're doing it's mostly limited by the speed of the disks.  Use dump
rather than an image copy so you only restore what's actually in use.

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Re: Best Laptop to buy for Freebsd Without OS?

2011-02-18 Thread John Levine
   At one point, Thinkpads - particularly the T4x series - were
_the_ recommended used laptop.  While it's been a while since i
looked into this formally, my grapevine says the quality went
downhill quickly after Lenovo bought IBM's pc hardware division.

I'm typing this on my Lenovo X200 running 8.1. For the most part it
works quite well and the quality seems similar to my previous IBM X40.

The worst annoyance is that the sound volume is quite low, and I
haven't yet figured out what to tweak to fix that.  It has bluetooth
and a fingerprint reader, neither of which I've set up, mostly out of
lack of interest.

R's,
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Re: google browser?

2011-02-16 Thread John Levine
I've heard certain noises on this list that the current
port-maintainer of Chromium has dropped the ball (not my words, just
paraphrasing the sentiment from the below thread).

That's too bad.  I'm using Chromium 6.0.472.63 from the ports which
works quite nicely, although I'm aware of the security issues.  It
has the same plugin interface as Firefox so Flash and Java work
reasonably well.  It is indeed much faster than Firefox.

R's,
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Re: shutdown computer after the halt command

2011-02-07 Thread John Levine
I used to believe that until I was shown I was wrong.  The easiest way to
see you're wrong is to drop to ttyv0  then do one of each like a reboot then
a shutdown -r now.  In the latter case, you'll notice /etc/rc.d/ and
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/ stop scripts being processed but not so in the former.

Uh, no.  shutdown or halt signals init, and init runs /etc/rc.shutdown
which runs all the shutdown scripts.  The only extra work that
shutdown does is to blat lots of warnings onto the ttys.

Read the man pages for shutdown, halt, and init if you believe otherwise.

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Re: editors/openoffice-org-3.3.0: serious issue with X11

2011-02-03 Thread John Levine
I just installed the current 3.3 snapshot openoffice.org-3.3.20110121
from good-day.net and it seems to work fine on my 8.1 amd64 gnome
laptop.

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Re: qmail or postfix?

2011-02-02 Thread John Levine
When you do decide on your MTA, I'd recommend buying a book which
documents it.

Oh, definitely.  Particularly if you decide on qmail.

R's,
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Re: qmail or postfix?

2011-02-01 Thread John Levine
I like qmail, but I would, having written a book about it.

If you want something that works reasonably well out of the
box, I'd use Postfix.  If you want something you can tweak to
do whatever you want, qmail is more of a toolkit.

Don't use the version of qmail in ports, it includes way too many
sloppily written patches.  netqmail 1.06 is a reasonable place to
start.

http://qmail.org/netqmail/

I've replaced the qmail SMTP daemon with Bruce Guenter's mailfront,
which is in the ports collection.  It has a flexible plugin design
which I've used to do better logging, spamassassin and DCC during the
SMTP session, etc.

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Changing the MAC address on a LAN adapter

2011-01-22 Thread John Levine
My Lenovo laptop running 8.1 has two ordinary Intel network adapters,
a wired PRO/1000 with the em driver and a WiFi PRO/Wireless 5300 with
the iwn driver.  They work fine, but for either one if I use ifconfig
to change the MAC address, the adapter won't actually work until I
change the address back to the native one.  Typical symptoms are
endless DHCP queries with no response.

Is this a known problem?  As far as I know, it's supposed to work.

R's,
John

PS: If you were wondering, obnoxious airport wifi that cuts you off
after an hour and won't let you back on until the next day, keyed by
MAC address.

em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection 7.0.5 port 0x1840-0x185f mem 
0xf260-0xf261,0xf2625000-0xf2625fff irq 20 at device 25.0 on pci0
em0: Using MSI interrupt

iwn0: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 5300 mem 0xf250-0xf2501fff irq 17 at device 
0.0 on pci3
iwn0: MIMO 3T3R, MoW, address 00:21:6a:b5:18:48
iwn0: [ITHREAD]
iwn0: 11a rates: 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
iwn0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps
iwn0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 
36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps
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Re: Is there a 'Y' (i.e. branch) version of a command pipe?

2011-01-08 Thread John Levine

Is there a command that lets me send standard input to two different
places at the same time? (i.e. non-sequentially.) Think of it like a
pipe character, but with a 'Y' branch instead. Basically, I want to
record standard input to a log file, but also send it to another
command for processing.

$ man tee

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Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

2010-12-29 Thread John Levine
I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?

I'm willing in principle, although my knowledge of both Firefox and
Java internals is, ah, somewhat limited.

R's,
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Re: Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

2010-12-29 Thread John Levine
 I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
 glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?

java/openjdk6 WITH_WEB will give you the plugin to use with www/firefox.

I'm trying to build openjdk6 on amd64 8.1-RELEASE, and I'm getting
build errors.  I did make config and turned on the WEB option, then make.

One error went away when I installed libXtst, but there's another near
the end of the build when it's trying to build icedtea and it can't
find nsThreadUtils.h.  That appears to be a firefox36 file, and I see
it's installed, but the includes are messed up or something.

Any suggestions?
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Re: printer recommendations?

2010-12-04 Thread John Levine
 My printer is a sturdy old Lexmark Optra T610.  CUPS has a driver,
 which does duplex, N-up, and so forth.  Each toner cartridge is good
 for over 10K pages, so I buy one about every two years, and I can
 usually find one for $100, making the per page cost very low.

Lexmarks are very badly designed (but very slowly getting better 
ergonomically), expensive to run, and crap themselves with generic 
toner. ...

So, just to be clear, you're telling me that I am imagining the fact
that my printer has worked reliably for ten years?

I can believe that Lexmark has made bad printers, but if you can
still find an Optra T, they're great.

R's,
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Re: printer recommendations?

2010-12-03 Thread John Levine
 Network is the way to go. USB *may* be okay. Parallel is not
 living anymore - allthough I'm still using it that way, but
 my home setting is a life support system for obsolete
 technology anyway. :-)

My printer is a sturdy old Lexmark Optra T610.  CUPS has a driver,
which does duplex, N-up, and so forth.  Each toner cartridge is good
for over 10K pages, so I buy one about every two years, and I can
usually find one for $100, making the per page cost very low.

I bought a USB to parallel adapter cable for about $10 which works
well, drives the printer fast without swamping the PC.

R's,
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Re: Anybody know apt-get ?

2010-11-07 Thread John Levine
In article 24360.1289127...@tristatelogic.com you write:
I need to get sources for the Linux version of certain programs that
reside in a package called bsdutils.

So get them, already.  No need to screw around with Linux binary
installers, particularly not on the FreeBSD list:

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/bsdutils

R's,
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Re: problems installing php (php5-spl) with portmaster

2010-11-01 Thread John Levine

portupgrade.  However, I just unregistered php5-spl, because its no longer
necessary.  I believe php5-spl and php5-pcre are now integrated into PHP-5.3
by default.

Yes and no.  pcre depends on the separate pcre package, and php will fail
in baffling ways is your pcre is too old.

The maintainer of the php port is aware of this but has declined both
to make a one-line change to the Makefile to use the bundled pcre
package, or an alternate one-line change to document the version
dependency.

R's,
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Re: Server hardware

2010-10-29 Thread John Levine
My question -- are any server vendors well recommended for FreeBSD?

I bought a used HP Proliant DL385 for about $300 on ebay, then loaded
it up with 8GB of RAM (making a total of 12GB) for another $200.
Works great, FBSD 8.1 groks all the controllers, even produces
appropriate syslog messages when I pull a disk out from the RAID and
replace it.  I got it when I realized it included a good remote
console and the whole thing was about the same price as an add-on
remote console for my old server.

It's got six 73GB 15K rpm disks, for a total of 360GB usable very fast
disk, which sounds like less than you want, but you get get these
things with six hot swap SATA slots and put in whatever disks you
want.

They're kind of pricey when new, but you can usually find last year's
model cheap on ebay.  I also used to build my own, but at prices like
this there's no point.  It's noisy and power hungry, so I'd only put
it in a data center, not in my office.

R's,
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Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread John Levine
I was hoping for a generalized, simple idiom for this, rather than
needing to implement it myself, for demonstration purposes


#!/bin/sh

cat $@ | 
while read x
do
   echo I saw $x
done


Sheesh.

R's,
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Re: PHP version dependency problems, was need help with php.

2010-10-19 Thread John Levine
   compiled correctly.  Then, still nothing.  Typing php at a
   root prompt outputs these warnings.  What's strange is that I
   _thought_ I had mysql set up correctly.  

PHP has a bunch of version dependencies on other ports that the guy
who maintains the PHP port refuses to fix or even to document.  I sent
in two fixes for a pcre dependency, one of which was a one-line change
to the makefile to use the bundled pcre, the other of which was a
different one-line change to note the version depenency on the
separate pcre port.  He rejected them both, insisting that everyone
always keeps all their ports current.  That's absurd, but there's not
much to be done.

The failures were odd PHP bugs in packages like mediawiki that used
to work just fine.

So if you've built PHP on a system that's not freshly installed, I'd
suggest one of these to bring all the ports on which it depends up to
date.

# portupgrade -R php\*
# portmaster php\*

R's,
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Re: /var/log/maillog

2010-09-26 Thread John Levine
Sep 26 11:13:47 ethic dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=kline, method=PLAIN,
rip=10.47.0.230, lip=10.47.0.230, TLS
Sep 26 11:14:48 ethic dovecot: IMAP(kline): Connection closed bytes=824/490

OK, you logged in, checked your mail, and logged out.

Sep 26 11:15:07 ethic sm-mta[15070]: ruleset=check_relay, 
arg1=109.106.10.75.sumtel.ua,
arg2=127.0.0.4, relay=109.106.10.75.sumtel.ua [109.106.10.75], reject=550 
5.7.1 Rejected:
109.106.10.75 listed at sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
p1 11:15 ethic [4598] 

A 'bot in the Ukraine attempted to send mail, and your MTA rejected it
since it was blacklisted.

Those entries are all perfectly normal.  

Not to belabor the obvious, but you need to tell us what you did, what
you expected to happen, what happened instead, and the log entries
showing what was going on while it happened.

R's,
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Re: Open Mail Relay

2010-08-16 Thread John Levine
 Assume, as Mr. Bonomi suggests, that some bad guy has installed some
type of additional mailer on the machine or another machine that's
allowed to relay mail.  How would I go about locating that other mailer?

Another popular hack is uploading a PHP script using bugs in a CMS or wiki.

Once you have a message with accurate timestamps in the headers, check the
web logs at those times, too.

R's,
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Re: Open Mail Relay

2010-08-14 Thread John Levine
Is Abuse.net's test adequate to rule out an open mail relay problem?  

It's pretty thorough, and most MTAs have default configurations that
don't permit relay, so it's much less of a problem than it was when I
wrote the tester many years ago.  I don't try to check for weak SMTP
AUTH passwords, a hole that some spamware exploits, so if you do AUTH,
it's conceivable that could be it.

In your case, though, I would wait for the complainer to forward you a
message or two with headers so you can figure out where is spam is
coming from.

Regards,
John Levine, postmas...@abuse.net, http://www.abuse.net, Trumansburg NY
abuse.net postmaster
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-13 Thread John Levine
 Since I will have a need to run this check frequently, any suggestions for
 a better approach are welcome.

sort -u and comm(1)?

sort is O(N log N) while grep is O(N)

Which is faster depends on the constant factors in each, but as the
data sets get bigger, the log N term will dominate.  That is, for
small sets of data, I don't know which will be faster, but either will
be fast enough so who cares.  For large sets of data, the sort will be
slow.

R's,
John
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread John Levine
% egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt

Thanks for the replies. This suggestion won't do the job as the list of
words is very long, maybe 50-60. This is why I asked how to place them all
in a file. One reply dealt with using a file with egrep. I'll try that.

Gee, 50 words, that's about a 300 character pattern, that's not a problem
for any shell or version of grep I know.

But reading the words from a file is equivalent and as you note most
likely easier to do.

R's,
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Re: firefox install problem

2010-08-09 Thread John Levine
You can manually download the package from a mirror and then install it 
with pkg_add (pkg_add firefox-3.6.8,1.tbz).

Speaking of Firefox 3.6, any progress on making it work with Java?

R's,
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Very low sound volume on Lenovo X200

2010-07-11 Thread John Levine
I can't get the sound to play above a whisper on my newish laptop.  It
has two sound channels, one for internal speakers, one for the plug,
and it's the same problem for both.  Every software sound control, of
which there are several, is set to the max.  The hardware is fine, it
works correctly under Windows (sigh.)

Here's dmesg's opinion of what it's got.

hdac0: Intel 82801I High Definition Audio Controller mem 
0xf262-0xf2623fff irq 17 at device 27.0 on pci0
hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090624_0136
hdac0: [ITHREAD]

I see that the hda driver has a vast array of options, suggesting that
something is defaulting wrong.  Any suggestions?

Here's what it's got now, from the pindump:

hdac0: Dumping AFG cad=0 nid=1 pins:
hdac0:  nid 22 0x042140f0 as 15 seq  0Headphones  Jack jack  1 loc  4 color 
  Green misc 0
hdac0:Caps:OUT HP   Sense: 0x7fff
hdac0:  nid 23 0x61a190f0 as 15 seq  0   Mic  None jack  1 loc 33 color 
   Pink misc 0 [DISABLED]
hdac0:Caps: IN VREF Sense: 0x7fff
hdac0:  nid 24 0x04a190f0 as 15 seq  0   Mic  Jack jack  1 loc  4 color 
   Pink misc 0
hdac0:Caps: IN VREF Sense: 0x7fff
hdac0:  nid 25 0x612140f0 as 15 seq  0Headphones  None jack  1 loc 33 color 
  Green misc 0 [DISABLED]
hdac0:Caps:OUT  Sense: 0x7fff
hdac0:  nid 26 0x901701f0 as 15 seq  0   Speaker Fixed jack  7 loc 16 color 
Unknown misc 1
hdac0:Caps:OUTEAPD 
hdac0:  nid 27 0x40f001f0 as 15 seq  0 Other  None jack  0 loc  0 color 
Unknown misc 1 [DISABLED]
hdac0:Caps:OUTEAPD 
hdac0:  nid 28 0x40f001f0 as 15 seq  0 Other  None jack  0 loc  0 color 
Unknown misc 1 [DISABLED]
hdac0:Caps:OUT 
hdac0:  nid 29 0x90a601f0 as 15 seq  0   Mic Fixed jack  6 loc 16 color 
Unknown misc 1
hdac0:Caps: IN 
hdac0: NumGPIO=4 NumGPO=0 NumGPI=0 GPIWake=0 GPIUnsol=1
hdac0: GPIO: data=0x enable=0x direction=0x
hdac0:   wake=0x  unsol=0xsticky=0x


R's,
John
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Re: Bourne .sh ?

2010-07-01 Thread John Levine
In article 4c2d2839.3040...@comclark.com you write:
I have a file containing this

drwxrwxr-x  14 89987  546  512 Jun  6  2009 7.2-RELEASE
drwxrwxr-x  14 89987  546  512 Mar 23 04:59 7.3-RELEASE
drwxrwxr-x  13 89987  546  512 Nov 23  2009 8.0-RELEASE
drwxrwxr-x  13 89987  546  512 Jul  1 04:56 8.1-RC2

I want to strip off everything to the left of the release
version so I end up with this.

7.2-RELEASE
7.3-RELEASE
8.0-RELEASE
8.1-RC2

How would I code to do this?

sed -e 's/.* //' firstfile  secondfile

awk '{ print $9}' firstfile  secondfile


There are far more complicated methods, too.

R's,
John
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Re: text editor

2010-06-02 Thread John Levine
Anybody else familiar with TECO?  *EVIL* grin

Oh, you mean that editor I used on a PDP-6?  Sigh.  Yes.

R's,
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Re: Tape changer/robot

2010-05-24 Thread John Levine
Is there someway I can get it to auto change tape?

Take a look at mtx, in the ports collection at misc/mtx, a SCSI
media changer and device control package.

R's,
John
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Re: PHP upgrade fails

2010-05-20 Thread John Levine
  1) Delete the following packages (if installed):
 - php5-dbase
 - php5-ncurses
 - php5-pcre
 - php5-spl
 - php5-ming
 - php5-mhash

and then I tried to rebuild php port.

However, php is not working and the ports cannot be updated.

Try reinstalling php5-extensions, which should rebuild all the ones
that need to be rebuilt.

The error messages from PHP should give you a hint which libraries
it's looking for.

R's,
John
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Re: PHP upgrade fails

2010-05-20 Thread John Levine
shows me that I still do not have two extensions which I deleted ealier:
php5-pcre
php5-spl

They're both built into PHP 5.3.

R's,
John
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Re: 7.2 to 8.0 upgrade issues

2010-05-18 Thread John Levine
# portupgrade -af --batch --yes
after 17 hours (mostly during the night..), it finished with
---  ** Upgrade tasks 425: 199 done, 1 ignored, 3 skipped and 1 failed
(no error messages here..)
Unfortunately, I didn't log the screen output to a file ..
- how can I find out what port failed and which where skipped and ignored?

Just run it again, and it'll retry the ones that didn't complete

- is it normal this didn't recompile all 425 ports?
- to rebuild the failed port: is # portupgrade -fr failed-port  OK?

I'm not sure it's OK, but it's unfortunately pretty typical.

R's,
John


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Re: 8-STABLE truncated elf file issues after buildworld

2010-05-15 Thread John Levine
/usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c
elf_load_section: truncated ELF file

Any chance that means the disk filled up?

R's,
John
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Re: Very simple file sharing between FreeBSD server and windows client ?

2010-05-10 Thread John Levine
 Is there a simple software to share files between a FreeBSD server and a
 windows client other than Samba which is a bit overkill for my needings,

I concur with the advice to use Samba, but if that's too scary, you
can just use FTP.  Recent versions of Windows let you define a network
location that is an FTP server, and it works well enough to show the
files in a pseudo-folder and drag them back and forth to local
folders.  On Windows, it's a poorly documented option under map
network drive.

Or real men run COMMAND.CMO and run FTP from the command line.

R's,
John
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Re: Small computer to run a GUI?

2010-05-08 Thread John Levine

 well. I went checking out Soekris but couldn't really see if they offer a
 GUI, the models I looked at didn't have a VGA port though. I was hoping for
 something about 9 inches square and three inches thick, or smaller.

Soekris users consider the lack of VGA to be a feature, since they
make the systems smaller and less power hungry.  If you want to run X
stuff, my advice would be to run a X server on your laptop to make it
act like an X terminal, and run the applications on the Soekris over
the network.  That's how X was designed to be used.  Works great.

If you really really want to run X on your Soekris, you could plug in
a mini-PCI video card, which I see you can get for about $45, but I'd
recommend not running an X server process on your server hardware.

R's,
John
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Re: Small computer to run a GUI?

2010-05-08 Thread John Levine
I was more thinking of something without a monitor, keyboard or mouse. I
want to put it in a cupboard and not worry about it.

Sounds like a Soekris.  Their net5501 has a 500MHz CPU, 512MB RAM,
serial ports, Ethernet, USB, compact flash, SATA, mini-PCI, and no video.
It runs FreeBSD.  The case is quite small, 6.7 x 11.5 x 1.3, but
has room for a 2 SATA disk if you want to add one.  If you want wifi
you can plug in a mini-PCI card.

They make it quite clear that their market is OEMs and they do not
offer software support, although there is a friendly community that is
helpful if you ask sensible questions.  Many people run FreeBSD on them.

With a case and wall wart it's under $300.  They have slower cheaper
boards, if that's all you need.

See http://www.soekris.com/net5501.htm

R's,
John
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Using different IP config than what DHCP provides

2010-05-06 Thread John Levine
I run FreeBSD 8.0 on my laptop, works great, when I take it with me I
open it up, wpa_supplicanr finds a network and DHCP configures it.

On a few networks, though, I want to use a different network setup than
the one that DHCP provides.  Is there any reasonable way to arrange
so that when I'm connected to specific network SSIDs, It runs a config
script I write rather than running dhclient, perhaps with a shim in
front of dhclient?

The situation, in case you're wondering, is that the wifi in most of
the local coffee shops is run by the same ISP that hosts my servers,
and when I'm on their network, I want to set up in my IP range rather
than the default one DHCP offers.  It is a pain to have to kill
dhclient and do the ifconfig and route commands manually.

TIA,
John



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Re: DJB and root ns server dnssec signing

2010-04-19 Thread John Levine
I also use djbdns and don't expect any particular problems, since you
don't get EDNS responses if you don't make EDNS queries.

There's a one-line patch I can probably dig up which makes dnscache
accept oversized responses.  Dunno if it would help, but it's unlikely
to hurt.

R's,
John
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Re: Questions about port revision numbers, portsnap, csup

2010-04-19 Thread John Levine
I have the same problem, recently upgraded to PHP 5.3.2 and Apache
was crashing whenever I tried to use a mediawiki page until I commented
out the apc library.  (Apache is 2.0, Freebsd is still 7.0, if that
matters.)

cd /usr/ports
fetch http://people.freebsd.org/~glarkin/diffs/pecl-APC-3.1.3p1.diff
patch  pecl-APC-3.1.3p1.diff

Didn't work, because pecl-APC is www/pecl-APC, not devel/pecl-APC.  I
edited the patch to be www/ rather than devel/ at which point the
patch applied but make failed due to one of the other patches:

===  Patching for pecl-APC-3.1.3.p1
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for pecl-APC-3.1.3.p1
1 out of 2 hunks failed--saving rejects to apc_sem.c.rej
= Patch patch-apc_sem.c failed to apply cleanly.
*** Error code 1


Here's what's in apc_sem.c.rej


***
*** 82,93 
  }
  }
  
- if ((semid = semget(key, 1, IPC_CREAT | IPC_EXCL | perms)) = 0) {
  /* sempahore created for the first time, initialize now */
  arg.val = initval;
  if (semctl(semid, 0, SETVAL, arg)  0) {
  apc_eprint(apc_sem_create: semctl(%d,...) failed:, semid);
  }
  }
  else if (errno == EEXIST) {
  /* sempahore already exists, don't initialize */
--- 82,97 
  }
  }
  
+ if ((semid = semget(key, 2, IPC_CREAT | IPC_EXCL | perms)) = 0) {
  /* sempahore created for the first time, initialize now */
  arg.val = initval;
  if (semctl(semid, 0, SETVAL, arg)  0) {
  apc_eprint(apc_sem_create: semctl(%d,...) failed:, semid);
  }
+ arg.val = getpid();
+ if (semctl(semid, 1, SETVAL, arg)  0) {
+ apc_eprint(apc_sem_create: semctl(%d,...) failed:, semid);
+ }
  }
  else if (errno == EEXIST) {
  /* sempahore already exists, don't initialize */




R's,
John
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Re: are we CRIMINALS?

2008-01-23 Thread John Levine
 He disobeyed a court order.  That makes him a criminal.  Whether
 what he was trying to do was right or not is irrelevant.  Once the
 court told him to stop, he should have stopped.

I happen to know David Ritz, and it would be extraordinarily out of
character for him to have violated a court order.  I don't know the
exact sequence of alleged events since most of the court papers are
sealed, but I do know that for part of the time he was in a coma in
the hospital.  As others have noted, the judge accepted the
plaintiff's claims at face value, even though there are strong reasons
to doubt his veracity.

This is a travesty of justice, nothing more, nothing less.

R's,
John

PS: It doesn't have much to do with FreeBSD, either.
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Re: ps2pdf problem

2008-01-12 Thread John Levine
However, when I pass the .ps file through the ghostcript with ps2pdf 
slides gets trimmed.

Is there some more advanced option for ps2pdfwr which will enable
me to conserve the proper width  of  slides?

It sounds like your pages are formatted as landscape and are being
translated as portrait.  See http://ghostscript.com/doc/current/Ps2pdf.htm

There are also options for larger page size which might be what you want.
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