Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-09 Thread Richard P. Williamson
At 21:04 08/06/2004. Jos De Laender had this to say:
Quod erat demonstrandum is correct. The translation is rather : what needed to be 
proven, what needed to be demonstrated ...
(although this is probably very poor English :-) )

That which was to be demonstrated, is the closest conceptually.

It is used at the end of proofs to show that you are finished
proving what you had originally theorized.  

Theory:  Windoze installations are unreliable.
Proof:
  I turned it on.
  It was hacked into an open proxy.
  It contracted several hundred worms.
  It crashed.
QED.

rip 

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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-09 Thread Rowdy
Jos De Laender wrote:
Bill Campbell wrote:
snip of on topic stuff ;-)

The original Latin is ``Quod Erat Demonstrandum'', translates to that was
demonstrated (about as much as I remember from five years of Latin).
 

Quod erat demonstrandum is correct. The translation is rather : what 
needed to be proven, what needed to be demonstrated ...
(although this is probably very poor English :-) )

Jos
I had a maths teacher in high school who said that, when used after a 
simple proof, it could stand for quite easily done.

Dave
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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-09 Thread John Birrell
On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 09:10:46AM +0100, Richard P. Williamson wrote:
 Theory:  Windoze installations are unreliable.
 Proof:
   I turned it on.
   It was hacked into an open proxy.
   It contracted several hundred worms.
   It crashed.
 QED.

W^5

(Which was what we wanted)

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[OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Moran
Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Robert Huff wrote:
 
 Peter Risdon writes:
 
  I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch sees
  many commits that are likely to be problematic.
 
  In general, no.
  On the other hand ... think of this as a Murphy's Law scenario:
 if you automate, it _will_ break horribly two days before some
 absolutely critical deadline.
   
 
 QED

I must be out of touch with my jargon ...

What's QED?

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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 12:36:47 -0400
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Robert Huff wrote:
  
  Peter Risdon writes:
  
   I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch sees
   many commits that are likely to be problematic.
  
 In general, no.
 On the other hand ... think of this as a Murphy's Law scenario:
  if you automate, it _will_ break horribly two days before some
  absolutely critical deadline.

  
  QED
 
 I must be out of touch with my jargon ...
 
 What's QED?
 
 -- 
 Bill Moran

If I recall correctly, it's Latin: quod erat demonstrandum, meaning
as it has been demonstrated.

Andrew Gould



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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Kent Stewart
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 09:36 am, Bill Moran wrote:
 Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Robert Huff wrote:
  Peter Risdon writes:
   I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch
   sees many commits that are likely to be problematic.
  
 In general, no.
 On the other hand ... think of this as a Murphy's Law scenario:
  if you automate, it _will_ break horribly two days before some
  absolutely critical deadline.
 
  QED

 I must be out of touch with my jargon ...

 What's QED?

I remember seeing that  at the end of mathematical proofs at the 
University where the professor was too lazy to finish their 
documentation. It was much more fitting here :).

Kent

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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004, Kent Stewart wrote:
On Tuesday 08 June 2004 09:36 am, Bill Moran wrote:
 Peter Risdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Robert Huff wrote:
  Peter Risdon writes:
   I suppose what I'm driving at is whether the RELENG_4 branch
   sees many commits that are likely to be problematic.
  
In general, no.
On the other hand ... think of this as a Murphy's Law scenario:
  if you automate, it _will_ break horribly two days before some
  absolutely critical deadline.
 
  QED

 I must be out of touch with my jargon ...

 What's QED?

I remember seeing that  at the end of mathematical proofs at the 
University where the professor was too lazy to finish their 
documentation. It was much more fitting here :).

The original Latin is ``Quod Erat Demonstrandum'', translates to that was
demonstrated (about as much as I remember from five years of Latin).

Bill
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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Robert Huff

Bill Campbell writes:

  The original Latin is ``Quod Erat Demonstrandum'', translates to
  that was demonstrated (about as much as I remember from five
  years of Latin).

Perfect passive periphrastic, if I've got it right.


Robert Huff


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Re: [OT] What's QED? (was Re: Wisdom of automating upgrades)

2004-06-08 Thread Jos De Laender
Bill Campbell wrote:
snip of on topic stuff ;-)

The original Latin is ``Quod Erat Demonstrandum'', translates to that was
demonstrated (about as much as I remember from five years of Latin).
 

Quod erat demonstrandum is correct. The translation is rather : what 
needed to be proven, what needed to be demonstrated ...
(although this is probably very poor English :-) )

Jos
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