A question about X
Hi! I have Freebsd 5.1 installed (never cvsup'ed). Yesterday my box was running all the day(without rebooting), and during that time i've installed many of ports(Krusader, Psi, mplayer, and so on). Everything was fine, but when I booted freebsd today, typed startx, (I'm using GNOME), I found, that there was only icons of menus, programs, but no names or inscription. After discovering this problem() I decided to reinstall X-server with all dependences. So my question is: HOW CAN I DO THIS? (what steps should I make to deinstall/install? Can I use the ports tree?) Or, if you can, you can give me a better way to fix this? Great thanks for your time and attention. #XFree86 -version XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 [ELF] Build Date: 24 May 2003 # ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A question about X
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:09:36 +0600, baguio_sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #XFree86 -version XFree86 Version 4.3.0 Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 [ELF] Build Date: 24 May 2003 # I would recommend you to upgrade to Xorg. Refer to the handbook for details on uninstalling Xserver and installing Xorg Regards S. -- Subhro Sankha Kar School of Information Technology Block AQ-13/1 Sector V ZIP 700091 India ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
relatively urgent question (about X)
For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. tia, people, gary, ssh'd in from ethic.thought.org -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relatively urgent question (about X)
Gary Kline wrote: For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. I'm just speculating, but it sounds like it's your window manager that's not starting, although X seems to actually be working. You could easily test this by editing ~/.xinitrc to use twm (a very simple wm) instead of what you're currently using. If startx works after that, then you don't need to fix X, you just need to fix your wm. In my experience, big, complex wms like Gnome and KDE tend to have trouble off and on. I've found that deleting everything from /tmp will sometimes fix things. Other times, I've been able to get things going again by deleting the .gnome (and other, similar directories) from my home directory. Note that this second one blows away all your Gnome settings. HTH -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relatively urgent question (about X)
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:22:46PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: Gary Kline wrote: For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. I'm just speculating, but it sounds like it's your window manager that's not starting, although X seems to actually be working. When I just tried X with startx (as root), I always got the defaukolt twm. Here is what in root's .xsession:: twm xterm xterm I'm using ctwm in my /home/kline acct. Pretty basic. You could easily test this by editing ~/.xinitrc to use twm (a very simple wm) instead of what you're currently using. If startx works after that, then you don't need to fix X, you just need to fix your wm. Hm. /root had no .xinitrc. Still, before it made no difference. I just created /root/.xinitrc and will try. In my experience, big, complex wms like Gnome and KDE tend to have trouble off and on. I've found that deleting everything from /tmp will sometimes fix things. Other times, I've been able to get things going again by deleting the .gnome (and other, similar directories) from my home directory. Note that this second one blows away all your Gnome settings. I'm test gnome and kde3 on my new 5.2 server; it's temp'y offline. There are lots of GUI-goodies in these wmanagers but my bias is to 'keep it simple, sir'. ctwm along with lots of tuning has served for around 7 years... . Snce my mouse X was frozen, maybe the mouse daemon never exec'd. Could that have crashed the OS? Another strange new fault is that rc.network took a long time to do anything. This line: May 21 09:55:17 tao /kernel: Doing initial network setup: hung more than a minute. Do you//does anybody have a clue re this new problem? Anyway, thanks for your data-points. I'll summarize to the list if/when I figure out what's going oon. I've had lots of strange events, but this is a new one.. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relatively urgent question (about X)
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:50:46AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. tia, people, gary, ssh'd in from ethic.thought.org Could this be a hardware issue? All other things being mostly constant I wouldn't think that software usually all of a sudden goes bad or gets misconfigured. Possibly it got corrupted on the disk for some reason, but then I might wonder what caused the disk to get corrupted in the first place. How about trying a new video card and/or peripherals? This is assuming that your setup was working one day and then the next went bad, or if it is flaky and intermittent. Nathan pgpp0AL4uOTve.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: relatively urgent question (about X)
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:40:58PM -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:50:46AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. tia, people, gary, ssh'd in from ethic.thought.org Could this be a hardware issue? All other things being mostly constant I wouldn't think that software usually all of a sudden goes bad or gets misconfigured. Possibly it got corrupted on the disk for some reason, but then I might wonder what caused the disk to get corrupted in the first place. How about trying a new video card and/or peripherals? This is assuming that your setup was working one day and then the next went bad, or if it is flaky and intermittent. Nathan Yes, it certainly could be a bad disc or even bad DIMM. I'm running an i815 motherboard that had video/audio built in. But the drive may have gotten kicked or bumped. How can I test a 40G drive?? gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: relatively urgent question (about X)
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 01:51:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:40:58PM -0600, Nathan Kinkade wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 10:50:46AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. tia, people, gary, ssh'd in from ethic.thought.org Could this be a hardware issue? All other things being mostly constant I wouldn't think that software usually all of a sudden goes bad or gets misconfigured. Possibly it got corrupted on the disk for some reason, but then I might wonder what caused the disk to get corrupted in the first place. How about trying a new video card and/or peripherals? This is assuming that your setup was working one day and then the next went bad, or if it is flaky and intermittent. Nathan Yes, it certainly could be a bad disc or even bad DIMM. I'm running an i815 motherboard that had video/audio built in. But the drive may have gotten kicked or bumped. How can I test a 40G drive?? gary Well, any program checking every single block on a 40GB drive would definitely take a long time to complete. I was more suggesting that a hardware problem might be causing the lockup, exclusive of the hardrive. I have seen a bad video card cause X to completely crash a system while X is intitializing. If you had an extra video card around it might be worth plugging it in and giving it a try. Nathan pgpUaRZxicb4e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: relatively urgent question (about X)
Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:22:46PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote: Gary Kline wrote: For some months I've had increasing troubles with my 4.9/4.10 abruptly crashing. This morning I found my workhorse server, tao, down and hung up while trying to fsck /usr. I cleaned everything thoroughly and then started xdm. The grey screen showed, the mouse was frozen; after 30 seconds, BOOM. Another crash. After yet another round of fsck's, I tried startx. To see what errs might kill the X11 boot. No: same blank grey screen, same frozen mouse,same OS crash. I tried /stand/sysinstall to reconfigure X. No luck. I'm now doing my next stable sup upgrade and am doing yet another buildworld buildkernel. I doubt this will resolve the X Window snafu, tho. So::: what x11/*XFree* ports do I have to fetch/build/install?? ((I'm assuming the reason for the crash was X-related, but this is only a first-SWAG.) Also, if anybody has had a similar problem, please let me know. I'm just speculating, but it sounds like it's your window manager that's not starting, although X seems to actually be working. When I just tried X with startx (as root), I always got the defaukolt twm. Here is what in root's .xsession:: twm xterm xterm I'm using ctwm in my /home/kline acct. Pretty basic. Perhaps my speculation is wrong, then ... it just sounded like a wm problem from your description. In my experience, big, complex wms like Gnome and KDE tend to have trouble off and on. I've found that deleting everything from /tmp will sometimes fix things. Other times, I've been able to get things going again by deleting the .gnome (and other, similar directories) from my home directory. Note that this second one blows away all your Gnome settings. I'm test gnome and kde3 on my new 5.2 server; it's temp'y offline. There are lots of GUI-goodies in these wmanagers but my bias is to 'keep it simple, sir'. ctwm along with lots of tuning has served for around 7 years... . Snce my mouse X was frozen, maybe the mouse daemon never exec'd. Could that have crashed the OS? Another strange new fault is that rc.network took a long time to do anything. Yeah, that doesn't sound like a wm. This line: May 21 09:55:17 tao /kernel: Doing initial network setup: hung more than a minute. Do you//does anybody have a clue re this new problem? In /etc/rc.network, the first thing that happens after that message is printed is the hostname is set if not already set. I wonder if there's some reason the hostname command could be taking a long time if there's no hostname set yet? Anyway, thanks for your data-points. I'll summarize to the list if/when I figure out what's going oon. I've had lots of strange events, but this is a new one.. Good luck. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simple question about X
Hi all. I've got a simple and stupid question. I'm trying to run an X app (dcgui) via Xmanager from a windows box. So...I did a make install on that, and it complained about xauth not being there. So, I just installed X, did a make install in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. But when I type startx or X I get a message that it's unable to open a config file. And I'm having a MAJOR brain fart and cannot remember what package provides the configure scripts. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Fwd: Re: Simple question about X
DAMMIT! Yet again I send it back to the sender, and not the list, if I do this one more time, somebody have me banned. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Simple question about X Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:41:18 +0200 From: Willie Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brian McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] No configure scripts needed, just run XFree86 -configure :) On Saturday 25 January 2003 21:31, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I've got a simple and stupid question. I'm trying to run an X app (dcgui) via Xmanager from a windows box. So...I did a make install on that, and it complained about xauth not being there. So, I just installed X, did a make install in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. But when I type startx or X I get a message that it's unable to open a config file. And I'm having a MAJOR brain fart and cannot remember what package provides the configure scripts. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Willie Viljoen Freelance IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60 +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- -- Willie Viljoen Freelance IT Consultant 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas Bloemfontein 9321 South Africa +27 51 522 15 60 +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Simple question about X
You shouldn't even need to configure X if you are exporting the display. X needs to be installed merely for the support apps libraries. Make sure your DISPLAY Variable is set to windowshostname:0 where 0 is the number of your display (And it should be 0 by default). Then from the command line, run the app, it should appear on your Windows Desktop. Adam On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:31, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I've got a simple and stupid question. I'm trying to run an X app (dcgui) via Xmanager from a windows box. So...I did a make install on that, and it complained about xauth not being there. So, I just installed X, did a make install in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. But when I type startx or X I get a message that it's unable to open a config file. And I'm having a MAJOR brain fart and cannot remember what package provides the configure scripts. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
RE: Simple question about X
Ok...I got it to work...it was a problem with the app. But...now I've got a really odd one. I'm trying to install Qt30, and when I do a make install it tells me qt-3.0.5_5 is marked as broken: The QT 3.x port does not support any XFree86 4.x. That's fine with me, since I'll be using the 4 libraries, but how to I get it to install? Thanks, --Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mykroft Holmes IV Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:59 PM To: Brian McCann Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Simple question about X You shouldn't even need to configure X if you are exporting the display. X needs to be installed merely for the support apps libraries. Make sure your DISPLAY Variable is set to windowshostname:0 where 0 is the number of your display (And it should be 0 by default). Then from the command line, run the app, it should appear on your Windows Desktop. Adam On Sat, 2003-01-25 at 14:31, Brian McCann wrote: Hi all. I've got a simple and stupid question. I'm trying to run an X app (dcgui) via Xmanager from a windows box. So...I did a make install on that, and it complained about xauth not being there. So, I just installed X, did a make install in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4. But when I type startx or X I get a message that it's unable to open a config file. And I'm having a MAJOR brain fart and cannot remember what package provides the configure scripts. Can someone help me out? Thanks, --Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
