Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:05, Jud wrote: [... snip ...] BootIt, which I used for a long time, works quite nicely and automagically; so does GAG, and GAG is - not Windows-dependent, for those who care about such things - free as in beer *and* speech, for those who care about such things :) It also works great - I'm running 5 OSs (including -CURRENT on UFS2) on a 3-drive system (2 in RAID-0, one standalone), and GAG has never had the slightest trouble. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy. Jud Thank you Jud. GAG works wonderfully with my setup. -- greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:09:49 -0600, greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 08:48, Mark Phillips wrote: [... snip ...] Hi Greg, I've just rebooted back into SUSE from FreeBSD. I use Grub to boot them both, and Win2k (for how often it gets used, I might as well dump it ;-)) I can safely say even with UFS2 on 5.2, I can boot with There is no issue booting kernels on a UFS2 with GRUB. The issue is that GRUB needs to be installed somewhere. There is more to GRUB than the 512 bytes on the MBR. It needs to read config files off of a filesystem. Where are your config files? are they on a UFS2 filesystem? Or are they on your ext2 file systems? If you have have managed to get a GRUB to read it's config files off of UFS2, let me know, and I will research that area. AFAIK, grub can not read it's config files off of UFS2 filesystem. BootIt, which I used for a long time, works quite nicely and automagically; so does GAG, and GAG is - not Windows-dependent, for those who care about such things - free as in beer *and* speech, for those who care about such things :) It also works great - I'm running 5 OSs (including -CURRENT on UFS2) on a 3-drive system (2 in RAID-0, one standalone), and GAG has never had the slightest trouble. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/ Enjoy. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Friday 30 January 2004 4:35 am, greg wrote: Try something like: Replace in /boot/grub/grub.conf something like: -- title BSD/UN*X FreeBSD 5.1 (UFS2) root (hd1,0,a) kernel /boot/loader -- to: -- title BSD/UN*X FreeBSD 5.1 (UFS2) root (hd1,0,a) chainloader +1 -- It is supposed to work. If not, post on [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking about how to do it. I will research that. When I tried to install grub from ports, It gave me a message GRUB does not support booting from UFS (yet). I do not have an ext2 filesystem to install GRUB on. Hi Greg, I've just rebooted back into SUSE from FreeBSD. I use Grub to boot them both, and Win2k (for how often it gets used, I might as well dump it ;-)) I can safely say even with UFS2 on 5.2, I can boot with title FreeBSD rootnoverify (hd0,1) chainloader +1 Windows uses the usual title Windows root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 makeactive with my partition table looking like... Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1305 104823817 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 1306 2610 10482412+ a5 FreeBSD /dev/hda3 2611 14592 96245415f Win95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/hda5 2611 2741 1052226 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 2742 14586 95144931 8e Linux LVM /dev/hda7 14587 14592 48163+ 83 Linux Cheers, --Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 08:48, Mark Phillips wrote: [... snip ...] Hi Greg, I've just rebooted back into SUSE from FreeBSD. I use Grub to boot them both, and Win2k (for how often it gets used, I might as well dump it ;-)) I can safely say even with UFS2 on 5.2, I can boot with There is no issue booting kernels on a UFS2 with GRUB. The issue is that GRUB needs to be installed somewhere. There is more to GRUB than the 512 bytes on the MBR. It needs to read config files off of a filesystem. Where are your config files? are they on a UFS2 filesystem? Or are they on your ext2 file systems? If you have have managed to get a GRUB to read it's config files off of UFS2, let me know, and I will research that area. AFAIK, grub can not read it's config files off of UFS2 filesystem. [... snip ...] Cheers, --Mark ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just had an idea. I still have room to make more slices. I could make a small ext2 slice and mount it to /boot/grub. The only issue with that: Does grub understand BSD Slices? -- greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Booting Release 5.2 and XP
I want to be able to dual boot into FreeBSD and Windows XP. Right now FreeBSD is booting just fine. Windows XP is on a FAT32 filesystem on the first primary partition of the second hard drive. The second hard drive is the secondary master. I am booting my system with the standard boot loader that came with 5.2 Release. It detects the windows partition on the second hard drive as DOS partition. When I hit F5 (it prompts me to hit F5 to boot the DOS partition), it sits there and does nothing. I have fomated the MBR on the second drive, so it is MSed. Previous to the FreeBSD install, I was dual booting Debian and the same Windows XP partition. I had to do some work configuring GRUB to get it to work. What worked was swapping HD0 and HD1 when I choose to boot XP. This would fool Windows XP into thinking it was booting off the first hard drive. Is there a way to change loader.conf to do this. I have looked at the loader.conf fig help, and did not see any thing that would obviously do this. Maybe there is another boot loader I could use that would allow me to fool Windows XP into thinking it is the first hard drive? I would use GRUB, but it does not support being installed on a UFS2 filesystem yet. I dual boot only for the games. -- greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
greg wrote: I want to be able to dual boot into FreeBSD and Windows XP. Right now FreeBSD is booting just fine. Windows XP is on a FAT32 filesystem on the first primary partition of the second hard drive. The second hard drive is the secondary master. [.. snip ..] Maybe there is another boot loader I could use that would allow me to fool Windows XP into thinking it is the first hard drive? I would use GRUB, but it does not support being installed on a UFS2 filesystem yet. I actually did something similar -- if not exactly the same.. the best solution that I could come up with was to use BootIt NG (http://www.bootitng.com/) to boot the system. That was the only of the approximately 15 solutions that I tried that worked. Now, the PC in question is exclusively FreeBSD, so I don't have to worry about it.. but check out BootIt NG.. also, I'd be curious if anyone had any luck with other methods.. -- Kurt -- Kurt Claussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access Unix System -- http://sdf.lonestar.org ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:51:59 -0600 greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] I have fomated the MBR on the second drive, so it is MSed. So it boots if you set the BIOS to boot from the first drive, right ? Previous to the FreeBSD install, I was dual booting Debian and the same Windows XP partition. I had to do some work configuring GRUB to get it to work. What worked was swapping HD0 and HD1 when I choose to boot XP. This would fool Windows XP into thinking it was booting off the first hard drive. Take a look on the Recovery console by booting from the XP CD. It's the infamous ntdlr thing. It is supposed to be fixable without reinstalling XP. Is there a way to change loader.conf to do this. I have looked at the loader.conf fig help, and did not see any thing that would obviously do this. No chance AFAIK. Maybe there is another boot loader I could use that would allow me to fool Windows XP into thinking it is the first hard drive? I would use GRUB, but it does not support being installed on a UFS2 filesystem yet. Try something like: Replace in /boot/grub/grub.conf something like: -- title BSD/UN*X FreeBSD 5.1 (UFS2) root (hd1,0,a) kernel /boot/loader -- to: -- title BSD/UN*X FreeBSD 5.1 (UFS2) root (hd1,0,a) chainloader +1 -- It is supposed to work. If not, post on [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking about how to do it. -- IOnut Unregistered ;) FreeBSD user ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 18:23, Ion-Mihai Tetcu wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:51:59 -0600 greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] I have fomated the MBR on the second drive, so it is MSed. So it boots if you set the BIOS to boot from the first drive, right ? Yes. [... Snip ...] Take a look on the Recovery console by booting from the XP CD. It's the infamous ntdlr thing. It is supposed to be fixable without reinstalling XP. This is not an ntldr issue. I forgot to mention that it will load Windows XP if I change the boot device to IDE-2 in the BIOS settings (see complication below). I would not bother worrying about the boot loader if I could change boot devices easily from the BIOS settings. I would just change the boot device to be IDE-2 when ever I wanted to use XP. However, there is one complication. Here is what I have found with some experimentation: My computer ignores the BIOS boot device settings. It will always try to boot off the device it booted from last boot. If that device is no longer present, it will then check the BIOS settings. I will clarify with a situation. I am in FreeBSD and I want to use Windows: - Reboot - Change boot device to IDE-2 in BIOS settings - The BSD loader comes up - Shutdown - Disconnect Primary Master - Turn on - Windows XP now boots - Shutdown - Reconnect primary master - Turn on - Windows XP boots, both drives are connected Now that I am in Windows, I decide I want to go back to FreeBSD. - reboot - Change boot device to IDE-0 - Windows XP loads - Shutdown - disconnect secondary master - Turn on - Now BSD boots - shutdown - reconnect secondary master - BSD boots and I have both hard drives accessable (but only primary master boots). This is a BIOS issue. Maybe the BIOS is flakey or something. This is not a BSD issue, I am just giving a little background into why I want to get this boot loader dual booting. The boot loader IS my fix to my flakey BIOS. Now what I want to do, is boot of the primary master all the time and use a boot loader so I can dual boot. [... snip ...] Try something like: Replace in /boot/grub/grub.conf something like: -- title BSD/UN*X FreeBSD 5.1 (UFS2) root (hd1,0,a) kernel /boot/loader -- to: -- title BSD/UN*X FreeBSD 5.1 (UFS2) root (hd1,0,a) chainloader +1 -- It is supposed to work. If not, post on [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking about how to do it. I will research that. When I tried to install grub from ports, It gave me a message GRUB does not support booting from UFS (yet). I do not have an ext2 filesystem to install GRUB on. I will also take a look at Kurt Claussen's suggestion of using BootIt NG. Thanx guys. -- greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting Release 5.2 and XP
On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 18:15, K Claussen wrote: I actually did something similar -- if not exactly the same.. the best solution that I could come up with was to use BootIt NG (http://www.bootitng.com/) to boot the system. That was the only of the approximately 15 solutions that I tried that worked. Now, the PC in question is exclusively FreeBSD, so I don't have to worry about it.. but check out BootIt NG.. also, I'd be curious if anyone had any luck with other methods.. I did some research on Boot It. It is a Windows solution. The MBR would load code/data off of an MS filesystem. This is not what I am looking for, as BSD is my primary OS. I am looking for a BSD or GPL solution. -- Kurt -- greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
