Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Ivan Voras wrote: On 21/09/2007, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use 7.0 on about 70 machines that are extremely heavily loaded, all running ULE, ranging from single through to 8 CPUs, some using ZFS, etc. I don't see these problems you are claiming, so you'll have to do some more detective work. I'm working on it. Specifically, the newest crash is in net/route.c, where locking is insufficient on SMP machines (the machine is not a router but a "normal" network server, the problem doesn't affect only routers). OK, feel free to provide some details on the relevant mailing list if you need help tracking it down. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
On 21/09/2007, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I use 7.0 on about 70 machines that are extremely heavily loaded, all > running ULE, ranging from single through to 8 CPUs, some using ZFS, etc. > I don't see these problems you are claiming, so you'll have to do some > more detective work. I'm working on it. Specifically, the newest crash is in net/route.c, where locking is insufficient on SMP machines (the machine is not a router but a "normal" network server, the problem doesn't affect only routers). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Ivan Voras wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have been using FreeBSD 7.0 since Jan 8 2007 CURRENT on this box which is a desktop for browsing and email with a Dual core AMD CPU setup. It rocks. I use FreeBSD 7.0 Current on 2 small mailservers using 3 year old hardware and it is rock solid. I believe the FreeBSD team has really got their act together on this one. Are you using any of the new features in 7.x? SCHED_ULE, ZFS? Because my only 7.x production server that does crashes daily (luckily it's not a critical machine) and non-server machines are not far behind. If you're not using the "new" features, you could just as well run 6.x :) I'm actively trying to solve some of these problems, but from my experience (I do a lot of things that may be considered "experimental", but mostly userland-side, I run "vanilla" kernels) 7 simply isn't stable yet. It might be in 7.0, but it's not yet. I use 7.0 on about 70 machines that are extremely heavily loaded, all running ULE, ranging from single through to 8 CPUs, some using ZFS, etc. I don't see these problems you are claiming, so you'll have to do some more detective work. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Ivan Voras wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have been using FreeBSD 7.0 since Jan 8 2007 CURRENT on this box which is a desktop for browsing and email with a Dual core AMD CPU setup. It rocks. I use FreeBSD 7.0 Current on 2 small mailservers using 3 year old hardware and it is rock solid. I believe the FreeBSD team has really got their act together on this one. Are you using any of the new features in 7.x? SCHED_ULE, ZFS? Because my only 7.x production server that does crashes daily (luckily it's not a critical machine) and non-server machines are not far behind. If you're not using the "new" features, you could just as well run 6.x :) I'm actively trying to solve some of these problems, but from my experience (I do a lot of things that may be considered "experimental", but mostly userland-side, I run "vanilla" kernels) 7 simply isn't stable yet. It might be in 7.0, but it's not yet. I dont believe I use anything exotic. ZFS is not used either. My needs are simple and I have found 7 CURRENT works on several nic cards that I had problems with using in previous versions. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
NetOpsCenter wrote: I have been using FreeBSD 7.0 since Jan 8 2007 CURRENT on this box which is a desktop for browsing and email with a Dual core AMD CPU setup. It rocks. I use FreeBSD 7.0 Current on 2 small mailservers using 3 year old hardware and it is rock solid. I believe the FreeBSD team has really got their act together on this one. Are you using any of the new features in 7.x? SCHED_ULE, ZFS? Because my only 7.x production server that does crashes daily (luckily it's not a critical machine) and non-server machines are not far behind. If you're not using the "new" features, you could just as well run 6.x :) I'm actively trying to solve some of these problems, but from my experience (I do a lot of things that may be considered "experimental", but mostly userland-side, I run "vanilla" kernels) 7 simply isn't stable yet. It might be in 7.0, but it's not yet. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Matthijs Breemans wrote: Kris, Is that url correct? Website doesn't show up here. And a traceroute Take a look on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org to see if your favourite ports are currently broken. It is. Its the first search result if you type pointhat into google.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Matthijs Breemans wrote: Kris, Is that url correct? Website doesn't show up here. And a traceroute dies somewhere @ yahoo (From the Netherlands) Regards, Matthijs -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Kris Kennaway Verzonden: woensdag 19 september 2007 22:59 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: P.U.Kruppa; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Bacon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ? Josh Carroll wrote: Thanks for the feedback. It's always good to hear "it works fine" anti-bug-reports :) Kris This is getting a bit off topic, so pardon me. :) I picked a bad time to try to move to 7-CURRENT, just after the gcc 4.2.1 integration. Many ports would not compile properly, etc. I hope that stabilizes soon, so I can give current another shot :) Josh Take a look on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org to see if your favourite ports are currently broken. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Sorry, it's offline temporarily. Try again later or check http://portsmon.freebsd.org for an alternative view of the data. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Kris, Is that url correct? Website doesn't show up here. And a traceroute dies somewhere @ yahoo (From the Netherlands) Regards, Matthijs -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Kris Kennaway Verzonden: woensdag 19 september 2007 22:59 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: P.U.Kruppa; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charles Bacon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ? Josh Carroll wrote: >> Thanks for the feedback. It's always good to hear "it works fine" >> anti-bug-reports :) >> >> Kris > > This is getting a bit off topic, so pardon me. :) I picked a bad time > to try to move to 7-CURRENT, just after the gcc 4.2.1 integration. > Many ports would not compile properly, etc. I hope that stabilizes > soon, so I can give current another shot :) > > Josh > > Take a look on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org to see if your favourite ports are currently broken. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Josh Carroll wrote: Thanks for the feedback. It's always good to hear "it works fine" anti-bug-reports :) Kris This is getting a bit off topic, so pardon me. :) I picked a bad time to try to move to 7-CURRENT, just after the gcc 4.2.1 integration. Many ports would not compile properly, etc. I hope that stabilizes soon, so I can give current another shot :) Josh Take a look on http://pointyhat.freebsd.org to see if your favourite ports are currently broken. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
> Thanks for the feedback. It's always good to hear "it works fine" > anti-bug-reports :) > > Kris This is getting a bit off topic, so pardon me. :) I picked a bad time to try to move to 7-CURRENT, just after the gcc 4.2.1 integration. Many ports would not compile properly, etc. I hope that stabilizes soon, so I can give current another shot :) Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
NetOpsCenter wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 4 months. 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the ISO images. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough time before you have to do a a major upgrade. I disagree that 7.0 will be a non-production beta release. We're working very hard to make sure it as good quality as it can be (but that also depends directly on users helping out). Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Aloha, In support of FreeBSD 7.0 and the people who have developed it I have been using FreeBSD 7.0 since Jan 8 2007 CURRENT on this box which is a desktop for browsing and email with a Dual core AMD CPU setup. It rocks. I use FreeBSD 7.0 Current on 2 small mailservers using 3 year old hardware and it is rock solid. I believe the FreeBSD team has really got their act together on this one. (From Experience with FreeBSD: I have run FreeBSD since 3.*on desktops with xfce3 gui. I now run servers for www and postfix as well. ) ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol Thanks for the feedback. It's always good to hear "it works fine" anti-bug-reports :) Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
Kris Kennaway wrote: P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 4 months. 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the ISO images. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough time before you have to do a a major upgrade. I disagree that 7.0 will be a non-production beta release. We're working very hard to make sure it as good quality as it can be (but that also depends directly on users helping out). Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Aloha, In support of FreeBSD 7.0 and the people who have developed it I have been using FreeBSD 7.0 since Jan 8 2007 CURRENT on this box which is a desktop for browsing and email with a Dual core AMD CPU setup. It rocks. I use FreeBSD 7.0 Current on 2 small mailservers using 3 year old hardware and it is rock solid. I believe the FreeBSD team has really got their act together on this one. (From Experience with FreeBSD: I have run FreeBSD since 3.*on desktops with xfce3 gui. I now run servers for www and postfix as well. ) ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + + http://internetohana.org - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* + "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
On 9/19/07, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.U.Kruppa wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: > > > >> I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be > >> a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: > >> > >>WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. > >>It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer > >>release within the next 4 months. > >> > >> 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 > >> comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the > >> ISO images. > > Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . > > There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 > > will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough > > time before you have to do a a major upgrade. > > I disagree that 7.0 will be a non-production beta release. We're > working very hard to make sure it as good quality as it can be (but that > also depends directly on users helping out). > > Kris I'm running AMD64 7.0 in my C2D server since July with no stability issues at all with awesome ULE ;) Thank you guys for the hard work! -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
P.U.Kruppa wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: > >> I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be >> a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: >> >>WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. >>It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer >>release within the next 4 months. >> >> 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 >> comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the >> ISO images. > Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . > There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 > will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough > time before you have to do a a major upgrade. If the PTB are listening please reconsider the time schedule on 6.3 to set a date and emplace it. The xorg version change is wreaking havoc on some of our new guys. I know this has been discussed before but there is evidence of losing people now as the source upgrade is a bridge too far for some. If I can contribute to making it happen someone please shoot me an email. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Kris Kennaway wrote: P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 4 months. 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the ISO images. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough time before you have to do a a major upgrade. I disagree that 7.0 will be a non-production beta release. We're working very hard to make sure it as good quality as it can be (but that also depends directly on users helping out). I take this as an invitation, since I updated to 7.0 last week :) Greetings, Uli. Kris Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
P.U.Kruppa wrote: On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 4 months. 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the ISO images. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough time before you have to do a a major upgrade. I disagree that 7.0 will be a non-production beta release. We're working very hard to make sure it as good quality as it can be (but that also depends directly on users helping out). Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: End-of-life for my amd64 ?
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007, Charles Bacon wrote: I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 4 months. 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the ISO images. Have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html . There will be at least a 6.3-RELEASE (work hasn't started yet) and 7.0 will be sort of a non-production beta release. So you will have enough time before you have to do a a major upgrade. Regards, Uli. 2. I've been a wannabe sysadmin for years and have enjoyed FreeBSD since it was 386BSD. However, I am slow to catch up, and would appreciate (and suggest) short links to various entities which are either recent or important to an admin. A checklist, much less than a man page, and more an introduction, e.g. "freebsd-update(8) does just that, and may be useful once the current release has been in use for more than a few months." Chuck Bacon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Peter Ulrich Kruppa Wuppertal Germany ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
End-of-life for my amd64 ?
I installed FreeBSD-RELEASE6.2 last January, and wonder if there will be a 6.3. Just discovered freebsd-update(8), tried it out, and saw: WARNING: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE is approaching its End-of-Life date. It is strongly recommended that you upgrade to a newer release within the next 4 months. 1. Now I wonder if I'll have to rebuild my filesystems again when 7.0 comes out. ...releases/amd64 contains only 6.1 and 6.2 among the ISO images. 2. I've been a wannabe sysadmin for years and have enjoyed FreeBSD since it was 386BSD. However, I am slow to catch up, and would appreciate (and suggest) short links to various entities which are either recent or important to an admin. A checklist, much less than a man page, and more an introduction, e.g. "freebsd-update(8) does just that, and may be useful once the current release has been in use for more than a few months." Chuck Bacon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ABHOR SECRECY -- DEFEND PRIVACY ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
