Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... 6 days later: Thailand jumped from 12 machines to 110... ahead of France and Australia. Only thing that the figures say is that they are far from being accurate. And that people should be reminded to register from time to time. Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Olivier Nicole wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... 6 days later: Thailand jumped from 12 machines to 110... ahead of France and Australia. This is a long shot, but couldn't it just be that a portal or usergroup of some kind started promoting bsdstats? Lets say a BSD usergroup in Thailand posted a notice on the first page about bsdstats. The usergroup has 200 visitors a day and half of them decides to follow the advice and install bsdstats. That would explain the sudden burst of 100 machines. Another plausible explanation is that an administrator of some network with 100 or so workstations or servers decided to push out bsdstats as a nightly upgrade or similar. It does not seem totally impossible to me, alltough I would not base any major decision on those figures without checking them first. -- R ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg wrote: Olivier Nicole wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... 6 days later: Thailand jumped from 12 machines to 110... ahead of France and Australia. This is a long shot, but couldn't it just be that a portal or usergroup of some kind started promoting bsdstats? Lets say a BSD usergroup in Thailand posted a notice on the first page about bsdstats. The usergroup has 200 visitors a day and half of them decides to follow the advice and install bsdstats. That would explain the sudden burst of 100 machines. Another plausible explanation is that an administrator of some network with 100 or so workstations or servers decided to push out bsdstats as a nightly upgrade or similar. It does not seem totally impossible to me, alltough I would not base any major decision on those figures without checking them first. At only 5000 hosts, I wouldn't be basing any decisions anyway ... I'd like to see 10x that number, and consistently, every month before reading *too* much into them ... Its only been running about 30 days so far, so @ 5k hosts so far, and most of those *since* Sept 1st, it shouldn't take us too long ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
That makes me kind angry too but many other failed to show the big corps
what the bsd* OSs worth.
Macromedia know about freebsd, the linux dev coordinator posts about freebsd
in his product blog but they don't care.. they know that having a linux
driver is enough to have a good reputation in the OSS world. There is
a 2.5Ksignatures petition regarding flash, there are
2.5M hits with freebsd macromedia search string in google, they have like
hundres of *bsd messages in the wish forms... what else can be shown to
proove that we exist? Nothing... they just don't care.. unless the whole OSS
comunity speaks.. there isn't much we can do.
Anyway, I've added some boxes to the bsdstats project.
Cheers
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:48 -0300 (ADT)
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those that are accusing bsdstats of being a pissing match ... I'm
personally tired of watching Linux get all the support when, IMHO, the
*BSDs are the better system ... the point of bsdstats is to show ppl
that
do not support the *BSDs (native Flash plugin anyone?) that their is a
market they are missing out on ...
well, if you put it like that, it makes more.
ATI-X drivers is something that definitely interest me ;)
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 05:34:48 -0300 (ADT)
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those that are accusing bsdstats of being a pissing match ... I'm
personally tired of watching Linux get all the support when, IMHO, the
*BSDs are the better system ... the point of bsdstats is to show ppl that
do not support the *BSDs (native Flash plugin anyone?) that their is a
market they are missing out on ...
well, if you put it like that, it makes more.
ATI-X drivers is something that definitely interest me ;)
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:18:44 -0400
Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push
the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting
from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ...
Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ?
Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have
signed up.
I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular
reason.
somewhat similar... i've got boxes here in AU which, for a reason or other,
haven't added.
how does bsdstat count jails, btw? :)
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On 8/09/2006 8:43 PM, Norberto Meijome wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:18:44 -0400 Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. somewhat similar... i've got boxes here in AU which, for a reason or other, haven't added. That issue has been addressed... us Aussies should start showing up as of next month's results (or re-run the submission manually if you can't wait :-). It was a timezone difference issue. Cheers Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Marc G. Fournier wrote: Reported devices right now doesn't work on the other BSDs, as apparently we are the only one that has a pciconf command :( But, here is a sampling of systems information for those coming in from KR (that is Korea, right?): operating_system | release | architecture | count --+---+--+--- DragonFly| 1.6.0-RELEASE | amd64|17 DragonFly| 1.0A-RELEASE | i386 |16 DragonFly| 1.1-Stable| i386 |16 DragonFly| 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |16 DragonFly| 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | amd64|16 DragonFly| 1.1-Stable| amd64|12 DragonFly| 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |12 DragonFly| 1.4.0-RELEASE | amd64|12 DragonFly| 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | amd64|12 DragonFly| 1.4.0-RELEASE | i386 |12 DragonFly| 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |11 DragonFly| 1.0A-RELEASE | amd64|10 DragonFly| 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | amd64| 9 DragonFly| 1.6.0-RELEASE | i386 | 9 OpenBSD | 3.8 | macppc | 4 OpenBSD | 3.3 | zaurus | 4 OpenBSD | 3.6 | luna88k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | mvme88k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.6 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 4.0 | macppc | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | vax | 3 OpenBSD | 3.9 | sparc| 3 OpenBSD | 3.4 | cats | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc| 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | i386 | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | i386 | 3 NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | mmeye| 2 OpenBSD | 3.5 | sparc64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | hppa | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | armish | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | alpha| 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | hppa | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | macppc | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | mac68k | 2 NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | shark| 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | sgi | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | evbsh5 | 2 NetBSD | 3.99.18 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 3.99.20 | evbsh3 | 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 4.0_BETA | evbsh3 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | armish | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.4 | amd64| 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.5 | mvme88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | amd64| 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | amd64| 2 NetBSD | 2.0.3 | algor| 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | zaurus | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | vax | 2 NetBSD | 2.0.3 | prep | 2 NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | amd64| 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | algor| 2 OpenBSD | 3.4 | mvme88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | sparc64 | 2 NetBSD | 4.99.1| next68k | 1 OpenBSD | 4.0 | sparc| 1 NetBSD | 3.99.13 | sbmips | 1 OpenBSD | 3.8 | amd64| 1 OpenBSD | 3.9 | vax | 1 OpenBSD | 3.2 | amd64| 1 NetBSD | 3.0_RC6
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 21:24:02 -1000
Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That issue has been addressed... us Aussies should start showing up as
of next month's results (or re-run the submission manually if you can't
wait :-). It was a timezone difference issue.
cool... though the issue i was referring to is that I can't be ar**d to install
this tool on production servers... maybe should allow us to enter 'i also have
these many other boxes' though, as many others have said, it seems a bit of
a pissing competition...
all the best,
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Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:02:45PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? So which korean freebsd mailing lists did you advertise bsdstats on? There are korean maillng lists? :) And, I've been talking to Matt @ DragonFlyBSD, and he believes that the reports from Korea/China are bogus ... there is no AMD64 port of DragonFly ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
Matthew Seaman wrote: if it is real, and since it seems to come from a single IP so we can assume it's all from one project or corporate entity, then it sounds like a very interesting project I'd like to hear more about, The other explanation that suddenly springs to mind is an IPv6 to IPv4 gateway. How widely deployed is IPv6 in Korea and neighbouring regions? Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Interesting. The 300.bsdstats script seems to except OpenBSD and NetBSD from the device reporting stuff, but not DFly. That does look extremely consistent with the known supported platforms and versions of the various BSDs. As you say, if it is someone playing games, then they have gone to a great deal of trouble to invent realistic data. On the other hand, if it is real, and since it seems to come from a single IP so we can assume it's all from one project or corporate entity, then it sounds like a very interesting project I'd like to hear more about, and I'm sure that the advocacy@ crowd would love to present as a 'BSD Success Story' Granted, but, after talking to Matt @ DragonFly, based on the fact that DragonFly doesn't have a port to AMD64 (it was a fork of FreeBSD 4.x) I've removed China/India/Korea from the list as 'overly suspicious numbers' ... :( Apropos nothing else though -- can you add 'operating_system' columns along side the 'release' columns on the 'Releases' page. Counting OpenBSD 4.0 along with FreeBSD 4.0 doesn't make a whole lot of sense. All ready being worked on :) Each OS will have their own set of 'detail pages' ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Marc G. Fournier wrote: Granted, but, after talking to Matt @ DragonFly, based on the fact that DragonFly doesn't have a port to AMD64 (it was a fork of FreeBSD 4.x) I've removed China/India/Korea from the list as 'overly suspicious numbers' ... :( Ah well. I guess there will be a slight delay in the inevitable onward march of *BSD World Domination... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: Granted, but, after talking to Matt @ DragonFly, based on the fact that DragonFly doesn't have a port to AMD64 (it was a fork of FreeBSD 4.x) I've removed China/India/Korea from the list as 'overly suspicious numbers' ... :( Ah well. I guess there will be a slight delay in the inevitable onward march of *BSD World Domination... Total hosts reporting in so far in September is ~3x what did in August ... the numbers are growing quite well ... eventually, the hope is that 'false numbers' like that won't be near as obvious, since they will be a small percentage of the overall ... Maybe they *were* legit, maybe someone in Korea did an AMD64 port of Dragonfly and hasn't submitted patches *shrug* For those that are accusing bsdstats of being a pissing match ... I'm personally tired of watching Linux get all the support when, IMHO, the *BSDs are the better system ... the point of bsdstats is to show ppl that do not support the *BSDs (native Flash plugin anyone?) that their is a market they are missing out on ... There are currently ~2800 hosts out there that agree with that, and growing ... If by adding the other *BSDs to the stats adds competition between us, so be it ... same with the Country stats ... so be it ... it is (or should be) a healthy competition ... I don't grimace when someone tells me they are running one of the other BSDs, but I do when someone tells me they are running Linux ... Will it result in fakers screwing around with the numbers? Definitely, but over time, the hope is that they will become a statistically insignificant number within the overall stats ... If someone out there has a suggestion on how to man 'faking it' even harder, I'm definitely all ears though ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On 9/9/06, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? There are some portal enterprises using FreeBSD such Yahoo! Korea, Dreamwiz and Neowiz. They each have more than 1000 hosts at least. Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work and don't read this list or play these sorts of games... The Open/ Net/DFly users are hobbyists who like to play these games. Many of Korean BSDers doesn't read the mailing lists at all. Some of them don't read even manpages. So there's no need to be surprised at the no-show on stats. :-) I just advertised bsdstats to the local BSD community. So there will few responses soon. Hye-Shik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:02:45PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? So which korean freebsd mailing lists did you advertise bsdstats on? Kris pgpBxrHKdZtqp.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. -- Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work my resume: http://www.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dan Langille wrote: On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the reported devices for those machines, if any. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Matthew Seaman wrote: Dan Langille wrote: On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the reported devices for those machines, if any. Cheers, Matthew Ahh - you seen the same thing I did. -- Best regards, Chris You can't fix it if it ain't broke. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Dan Langille wrote: On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the reported devices for those machines, if any. Reported devices right now doesn't work on the other BSDs, as apparently we are the only one that has a pciconf command :( But, here is a sampling of systems information for those coming in from KR (that is Korea, right?): operating_system | release | architecture | count --+---+--+--- DragonFly| 1.6.0-RELEASE | amd64|17 DragonFly| 1.0A-RELEASE | i386 |16 DragonFly| 1.1-Stable| i386 |16 DragonFly| 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |16 DragonFly| 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | amd64|16 DragonFly| 1.1-Stable| amd64|12 DragonFly| 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |12 DragonFly| 1.4.0-RELEASE | amd64|12 DragonFly| 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | amd64|12 DragonFly| 1.4.0-RELEASE | i386 |12 DragonFly| 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | i386 |11 DragonFly| 1.0A-RELEASE | amd64|10 DragonFly| 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | amd64| 9 DragonFly| 1.6.0-RELEASE | i386 | 9 OpenBSD | 3.8 | macppc | 4 OpenBSD | 3.3 | zaurus | 4 OpenBSD | 3.6 | luna88k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | mvme88k | 3 OpenBSD | 3.6 | mac68k | 3 OpenBSD | 4.0 | macppc | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | vax | 3 OpenBSD | 3.9 | sparc| 3 OpenBSD | 3.4 | cats | 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc| 3 OpenBSD | 3.3 | i386 | 3 OpenBSD | 3.8 | i386 | 3 NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | mmeye| 2 OpenBSD | 3.5 | sparc64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc64 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | hppa | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | armish | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | alpha| 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | hppa | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | macppc | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | mac68k | 2 NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | shark| 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | sgi | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | evbsh5 | 2 NetBSD | 3.99.18 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 3.99.20 | evbsh3 | 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 4.0_BETA | evbsh3 | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | i386 | 2 NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | cats | 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | armish | 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.7 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.2 | sgi | 2 OpenBSD | 3.4 | amd64| 2 OpenBSD | 3.8 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.5 | mvme88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.9 | amd64| 2 OpenBSD | 4.0 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 | amd64| 2 NetBSD | 2.0.3 | algor| 2 OpenBSD | 3.3 | luna88k | 2 OpenBSD | 3.6 |
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: Dan Langille wrote: On 8 Sep 2006 at 22:02, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Correct. There are no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there... that have signed up. I have about 8 or 10 boxes, I've signed up only one. No particular reason. Reported hosts for China and India are following the same pattern. About equal numbers of Open/Net/DFly and very few Free. Either there's some fairly large scale project in those countries using hundreds of those systems, or someone is playing games. It would be interesting to see the reported devices for those machines, if any. Oh, and I did check CN (China, I hope?) and they show similar trends, but not the same releases / architectures / counts ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work and don't read this list or play these sorts of games... The Open/ Net/DFly users are hobbyists who like to play these games. I am not knocking the bsdstats effort -- just that lots of serious users with machines in production won't report back (I know I am not). Your sample is probably statistically invalid. best regards Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not popular in Asia?
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Check out http://www.bsdstats.org ... Republic of Korea is about to push the US out of first place, but there are *zero* FreeBSD boxes reporting from there ... DragonFly is first, then NetBSD and then OpenBSD ... Are there *really* no Korean FreeBSD hosts out there ... ? Or maybe the FreeBSD users in Korea use their systems for real work and don't read this list or play these sorts of games... The Open/Net/DFly users are hobbyists who like to play these games. I am not knocking the bsdstats effort -- just that lots of serious users with machines in production won't report back (I know I am not). Your sample is probably statistically invalid. best regards Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not to mention how many are vmwared. Does that count? Could it count? Would it count? -- Best regards, Chris A bird in the hand is dead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
