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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

2012-07-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Jul 22 07:22:29 2012
 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:19:43 +0200 (CEST)
 From: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
 To: Thomas Mueller muelle...@insightbb.com
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?

 
  Let us securely erase your personal files and pictures for only $49.99.
 and securely copy everything interesting before.

 That's truly funny. Someone DO CARE about his/her data being deleted, 
 and... lets someone else in random shop to do this.

And exactly what alternatives _do_ you see for someone who DOES NOT HAVE
THE SKILLS, TOOLS, OR RESOURCES, to 'do it themselves'?

That's a serious question, not an attack.

If someone wants it done, but doesn't have the knowledge/tools/etc. to
do it themselves, it appears to me that they have precisely two realistic
alternatives:
   1) Trust somebody to do it, and do it right,
or
   2) simpl DON'T do it.

Putting together what is required to do it yourself _is_ out of the
question for _most_ Windows users.   They don't know _what_ they need to
know/learn/have to do the task. Heck they don't know how to find out *what*
they need to find out, to learn what is needed to do the task.

Yes, in theory, they _could_ learn everything they need to know to do it
themselves, but the list of things that a 'know nothing' Windows user has
to dig out, understand, and _use_, is incredibly long and daunting.



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Re: fsck on FAT32 filesystem?freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

2012-07-22 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:31:51 -0500 (CDT)
Robert Bonomi articulated:

 Yes, in theory, they _could_ learn everything they need to know to do
 it themselves, but the list of things that a 'know nothing' Windows
 user has to dig out, understand, and _use_, is incredibly long and
 daunting.

I know plenty of dumber than dirt *.nix users too. Stupidity is not
limited to race, color, sex or operating system. Actually, they are
smart enough to get themselves an OS that actually works with virtually
all modern hardware and without having to spend countless [hours | days
| weeks] attempting to getting such hardware up and running before
eventually giving up in some cases. You might have heard about N
protocol wireless devices that until fairly recently FreeBSD didn't even
know existed. Even now the support is limited; however, that is another
story.

In any case, that is not the subject of this this reply. I have found
HDDerase.exe http://cmrr.ucsd.edu/people/Hughes/SecureErase.shtml
to be a useful and in the most important criteria to the FOSS crowd,
free.

Seriously though, isn't it about time to close this thread?


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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7

2012-06-06 Thread Bernt Hansson

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freebsd-questions

2012-02-09 Thread Dmitry Vasilyev
Hello, Questions.

FreeBD 9.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 
r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386

When replacing the MTA if you disable sendmail to rc.conf file after adding the 
lines:

sendmail_enable=NO
sendmail_submit_enable=NO
sendmail_outbound_enable=NO
sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO

lost all network connections to any local port IP4, but if you go locally as 
root and execute the command ping any IP network, all connections are restored

tried to just install the system in a minimal install and add
disable sendmail in rc.conf result is the same - the decline of network
Connection to a local reference to it such as ping, now in
ports installed on the system:

apache  =
apr-devrandom-gdbm-db42 =
autoconf=
autoconf-wrapper=
automake=
automake-wrapper=
bash=
bigreqsproto=
bison   =
cmake   =
db41=
db42=
dovecot =
expat   =
freetype2   =
gawk=
gdbm=
gettext =
gmake   =
help2man=
inputproto  =
jpeg=
kbproto =
libICE  =
libSM   =
libX11  =
libXau  =
libXaw  =
libXdmcp=
libXext =
libXmu  =
libXp   =
libXpm  =
libXt   =
libcheck=
libgcrypt   =
libgpg-error=
libiconv=
libltdl =
libmcrypt   =
libpthread-stubs=
libsigsegv  =
libtool =
libxcb  =
libxml2 =
libxslt =
m4  =
mc-light=
mysql-client=
mysql-server=
oniguruma   =
p5-Locale-gettext   =
pcre=
perl=
php5=
php5-ctype  =
php5-dom=
php5-extensions =
php5-filter =
php5-gd =
php5-gettext=
php5-hash   =
php5-iconv  =
php5-json   =
php5-mbstring   =
php5-mcrypt =
php5-mysql  =
php5-mysqli =
php5-openssl=
php5-pdo=
php5-pdo_sqlite =
php5-phar   =
php5-posix  =
php5-session=
php5-simplexml  =
php5-tokenizer  =
php5-xml=
php5-xmlreader  =
php5-xmlrpc =
php5-xmlwriter  =
php5-zip=
php5-zlib   =
pkg-config  =
png =
portupgrade =
postfix =
postfixadmin=
printproto  =
proftpd =
proftpd-mod_sql_mysql   =
python27=
ruby=
ruby18-bdb  =
sqlite3 =
t1lib   =
tcl =
tcl-modules =
unzip   =
xcb-proto   =
xcmiscproto =
xextproto   =
xf86bigfontproto=
xorg-macros =
xproto  =
xtrans  =


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С уважением,
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 395, Issue 10

2012-01-01 Thread Jeffrey McFadden
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 6:00 AM, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.orgwrote:

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 Matthew Seaman wrote:


 Message: 9
 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:34:02 +
 From: Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk
 Subject: Re: very small network
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: 4efed70a.8080...@infracaninophile.co.uk
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 On 31/12/2011 04:12, Jeffrey McFadden wrote:
  I bought into FreeBSD with a DVD of PC-BSD.  It's great, but the PC-BSD
  user manual is not up to the level of the FreeBSD manual.  In the latter
 I
  have found, as you all suggested, all the necessary information.
 
  I haven't set the network up yet but I expect to be able to run both
 server
  and client NFS on each machine to enable networking both ways.  They are
  all laptops of one sort  or another (Asus eee, Toshiba Satellite, late
  model Sony Vaio)  and it sort of depends on where I sit which machine
 needs
  to be client and which server, if that makes any sense.

 Perfect sense.

 One thing I'd expect PC-BSD to have (or at least to make easy to enable)
 is Apple-esque zeroconf networking.  That means you should be able to
 plug a new build machine into your network, and it will discover other
 machines on the net and give you the ability to mount filesystems, or
 print to attached printers, and all without having a designated central
 controlling server.  I take it this is the sort of thing you mean by
 setting up your network?


As I look, yes, PC-BSD does have such a thing, and it has a network
browser built into it, too.  It almost looks like it is designed to use
Samba even between BSD machines; does this make sense?


 This is a very attractive model as it is very simple from the user point
 of view.  You don't necessarily need to have any dedicated servers,
 although such things as a DHCP server are still useful (I suspect your
 broadband router probably has that function).  On the other hand, it is
 probably a bit harder to set up than a strict client-server setup with
 dedicated servers.


It is attractive, but I don't see any way to configure exported filesystems
other than going back to NFS, which is all right, but I'm trying to
understand what this other option might mean to me.


 The key software requirement here is to set up multicast DNS.  There are
 a number of packages in the ports to do this -- mDNSresponder, howl, but
 what I'd recommend is avahi as it is best integrated with other software
 packages.  For the shared networking thing, you can use samba between
 FreeBSD machines, but you'll need to build samba from ports since the
 AVAHI option isn't enabled by default.


As you may know, PC-BSD has a system they call PBI (Push Button
Installation) to install pre-built packages via a software manager app on
the system.  Needless to say, it does not offer all 23K+ ports.  There is a
.PBI version of Samba; I wonder if it has Avahi enabled by default.


Cheers,

Matthew


Thanks for the help,

Jeff




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Re: [freebsd-questions] Revision control advice

2011-12-22 Thread Howard Jones

On 22/12/2011 22:53, William Brown wrote:
Again, git wins here. It has good support on windows, as well as with 
graphical tools on windows.
Is there a git equivalent of TortoiseSVN then? That's the best VC 
integration I've seen on any platform...


One small but cosmetic thing with git vs svn: you won't get meaningful 
automatic revision numbers with git, unless you enjoy memorizing long 
strings of hex.


Howie
(warming up to git, but uses svn at the moment)
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 390, Issue 3

2011-11-23 Thread William Bulley
According to Galati, Michael mcg+f...@sulfegate.org on Wed, 11/23/11 at 
00:40:
 
 If you still have trouble compiling, you could always do a fresh
 install off one of the 9.0-RC2 images on a spare machine (or on
 virtual machine; VirtualBox works well for this), and build the
 sources there.  Once the make build{world,kernel} steps complete, copy
 (or export over NFS) /usr/{src,obj} to the machine to be upgraded, and
 do the usual make install{kernel,world} (and mergemaster) steps.
 
 I just did this just yesterday to bring a test box up from stable/8 to
 stable/9; worked like a charm.  YMMV.
 
 Apparently freebsd-update(8) works for binary updates as well, but
 I've never used it (check the release announcement on freebsd-current
 or freebsd-stable from the 17th).
 
 Good luck! ^_^'

Thanks.  I am now happily running 9.0-PRERELEASE (!) and finally past
all those weird bsdinstall issues.  What a mess!  Thanks for all the
replies and help.  I didn't use anything other than what I view as the
standard (t/m) way to upgrade: csup-of-stable/buildworld/installworld
which method has always worked in the past for me, but had trouble in
the attempt to upgrade to a 9.x variant before it was ready for prime
time.  I would not normally have done this, but there were extenuating
circumstances that required the attempt.  Thanks again.  :-)

Regards,

web...

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Re: [freebsd-questions] Breakin attempt

2011-10-22 Thread Howard Jones
On 22/10/2011 15:37, Bruce Cran wrote:
 If you run some sort of shell server, or where many people need to
 login using ssh, you'll have a bit of a support problem telling people
 to select the non-default port. Also, some might consider it security
 through obscurity, which is often said to be a bad thing. 
Security through obscurity is only really a bad thing if it's your ONLY
security. It doesn't hurt to make things harder for someone in addition
to your other measures (strong passwords, large keys, limited network
ranges etc)

Howie
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Re: [freebsd-questions] Breakin attempt

2011-10-22 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 03:58:20PM +0100, Howard Jones wrote:
 On 22/10/2011 15:37, Bruce Cran wrote:
  If you run some sort of shell server, or where many people need to
  login using ssh, you'll have a bit of a support problem telling people
  to select the non-default port. Also, some might consider it security
  through obscurity, which is often said to be a bad thing. 
 Security through obscurity is only really a bad thing if it's your ONLY
 security. It doesn't hurt to make things harder for someone in addition
 to your other measures (strong passwords, large keys, limited network
 ranges etc)

Actually, security through obscurity is always bad.  The fact, however,
is that something that could be used for security through obscurity is
not automatically always a security through obscurity measure.  Are you
using a nonstandard port assignment for security, or just to make your
logs cleaner?  If you realize that moving SSH to a nonstandard port will
not in any way protect you from a targeted attack, and only do so to
clean up logs and reduce local SSH daemon activity from pointless
low-hanging fruit attacks, while using other (better) techniques to
actually properly secure the box, you aren't using employing a security
through obscurity plan at all.

Security through obscurity isn't the technique; it's the purpose to
which a technique is directed.  If what you're doing isn't intended as a
security measure, it's something other than security through obscurity,
and you shouldn't beat yourself up over it.

If you have no specific need to keep SSH on 22, definitely move a
public-facing SSH server to a nonstandard port, for reasons unrelated to
actual intrusion security.

-- 
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Re: [freebsd-questions] FreeBSD supported versions (UNCLASSIFIED)

2011-08-11 Thread Howard Jones
On 11/08/2011 12:37, Daniel Staal wrote:

 (Well, ok, given the current release structure having an update today
 means you are in a supported branch, and that supported branch will
 continue to get updates for the foreseeable future.  But that still
 does not tell me when the branch is likely to get unsupported, and in
 theory a patch release could be made on the last day of support for a
 branch.)
A simple solution would be for there to ALWAYS be a patch release on the
last day of support for a branch, that creates /etc/NOT-SUPPORTED or
similar. Then it's just a matter of adding an /etc/cron.daily job to
report on that, as long as you are following updates (and if you aren't
you don't care about this issue).

I can't think of any other OS that does this, either - they generally
just report that there are no available updates.

Howie
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Re: [freebsd-questions] FreeBSD supported versions (UNCLASSIFIED)

2011-08-11 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:45:23PM +0100, Howard Jones typed:
 On 11/08/2011 12:37, Daniel Staal wrote:
 
  (Well, ok, given the current release structure having an update today
  means you are in a supported branch, and that supported branch will
  continue to get updates for the foreseeable future.  But that still
  does not tell me when the branch is likely to get unsupported, and in
  theory a patch release could be made on the last day of support for a
  branch.)
 A simple solution would be for there to ALWAYS be a patch release on the
 last day of support for a branch, that creates /etc/NOT-SUPPORTED or
 similar. Then it's just a matter of adding an /etc/cron.daily job to
 report on that, as long as you are following updates (and if you aren't
 you don't care about this issue).
 
 I can't think of any other OS that does this, either - they generally
 just report that there are no available updates.

You can do a lot of nice stuff just parsing the cvsweb. For example,
here's a very basic script for showing supported branches:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w

use strict;
use LWP::Simple;

print Supported branches of FreeBSD:\n\n;

my @content = split /\n/, 
get(http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/www/en/security/security.sgml;);
die Couldn't get url! unless @content;

my $line = shift @content;
do { $line = shift @content; } until ($line =~ /name=supported-branches/);
do { $line = shift @content; } until ($line =~ /table class=tblbasic/);

while ($line = shift @content) {
last if $line =~ /\\/table\/;
if ($line =~ /\t[hd]\/) {
$line =~ s/[^]*//g;
$line =~ s/^\s*//;
printf %-20s, $line;
}
print \n if $line =~ /\\/tr\/;
}

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Re: [freebsd-questions] Maintenance script/port

2011-07-21 Thread Howard Jones
On 21/07/2011 09:25, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
 Can someone recommend me a text driven maintenance (re)port that
 informs me about the health of my FreeBSD system?
 I currently use the standard BSD report information, but like to get
 more information out of my partitions, OS etc.
 This program should be ran by schedule and send me the outcome by email.
You can add to the tasks that the xyz system Daily Run report uses to
produce it's report.

Check out periodic(1) and /etc/periodic.conf - the scripts that it uses
live in /etc/periodic and /usr/local/etc/periodic

Howie
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Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Howard Jones
On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote:
 I'm the one...using Linux since '99 (SuSE, Gentoo,Arch) and moved to
 PCBSD-9.0 some months ago. I'm *very* happy and cannot believe how
 little time I spend doing admin work 'cause the OS 'just works'.

 Otoh, Linux was saga with *constant* tweaking, updating, fixing...
Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to
Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away from the packaging/ports mess :-)
I've been spoilt by apt-get and yum and first-class support in Puppet.
I've been a FreeBSD user since 2.x, but keeping a significant number of
systems up to date is just tedious without a decent binary package
manager/updater.

Howie
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Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com wrote:

 On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote:

 Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to
 Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away from the packaging/ports mess :-)
 I've been spoilt by apt-get and yum and first-class support in Puppet.
 I've been a FreeBSD user since 2.x, but keeping a significant number of
 systems up to date is just tedious without a decent binary package
 manager/updater.


What I find interesting is how strongly you speak of FreeBSD's power.  You
have to replace it with two Linux distributions, greatly expanding your
management overhead.



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Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011-07-18 Thread Howard Jones

On 18/07/2011 19:18, Adam Vande More wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones ho...@thingy.com 
mailto:ho...@thingy.com wrote:


On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote:

Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to
Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away from the packaging/ports
mess :-)
I've been spoilt by apt-get and yum and first-class support in Puppet.
I've been a FreeBSD user since 2.x, but keeping a significant
number of
systems up to date is just tedious without a decent binary package
manager/updater.


What I find interesting is how strongly you speak of FreeBSD's power.  
You have to replace it with two Linux distributions, greatly expanding 
your management overhead.


Hehe. Not really - for work it's CentOS. I decided to try Debian for 
myself on my personal server. Even if it weren't though, I'd still be 
glad to skip portupgrade and friends. I will miss ipfw and netgraph on 
the other hand.

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FreeBSD Questions off line?

2011-06-02 Thread Al Plant

Aloha,

I havent seen any FreeBSD questions on line for 2 days. Any body have 
any knowledge about this?



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Re: FreeBSD Questions off line?

2011-06-02 Thread Chris Brennan
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:

Aloha,

 I havent seen any FreeBSD questions on line for 2 days. Any body have any
 knowledge about this?


Well, it's not offline, your mail came though just fine ... maybe no one has
sent anything?

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Re: FreeBSD Questions off line?

2011-06-02 Thread Noel

The archives show 30+ messages yesterday and today.
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2011-June/date.html

Check your mail server, your subscription, etc.

  -- Noel Jones


On 6/2/2011 3:01 PM, Al Plant wrote:

Aloha,

I havent seen any FreeBSD questions on line for 2 days. Any 
body have any knowledge about this?



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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 362, Issue 7

2011-05-12 Thread gs_stol...@juno.com
I had to do this same thing over 10 years ago, once at work and once at home.  
At home, I copies  ksh  and gave it root privileges so it could do the  suid .  
At work, a root person lent me the use of a binary program (with root 
privileges) that I used to execute  ksh  (I believe).  My memory of this is 
hazy, so I don't recall if that was a standard program there or it was a 
special one that he created.

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10

2011-05-01 Thread Arthur Barlow
 Does anyone know if this will ever be supported for FreeBSD 8.x?  I
 tried both the version in ports as well as the one directly from
 NVIDIA.  No joy.  Does anyone know of other possibilities?

 You might try putting the port's name in question into the body of
 your post. Anyway, is there a specific reason that you cannot use the
 latest version in the posts system, nvidia-driver-256.53_1? I believe
 that nVidia released a newer version last year, 270.41.06,
 but it is apparently not available in the ports system. You might want
 to check with da...@freebsd.org regarding that.

 All of the FreeBSD nVidia drivers are listed on:
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html.

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 jerry+f...@seibercom.net

Sorry.  I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card.
 Because of it's age, NVIDIA says that it need the the
nvidia-driver-173..., but NVIDIA also says they do not have a
version that works for FreeBSD 8.x.  I was hoping someone in the
FreeBSD community might have ported it.  Unfortunately, I'm no video
card hacker.
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 360, Issue 10

2011-05-01 Thread RW
On Sun, 1 May 2011 10:01:46 -0700
Arthur Barlow arthurbar...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sorry.  I should have mentioned that I'm using a GeForce FX 5200 card.
  Because of it's age, NVIDIA says that it need the the
 nvidia-driver-173..., but NVIDIA also says they do not have a
 version that works for FreeBSD 8.x.  I was hoping someone in the
 FreeBSD community might have ported it.  Unfortunately, I'm no video
 card hacker.

nvidia-driver-173 doesn't work on amd64. If that's your issue then you
may be better-off with the i386 version of FreeBSD.

FreeBSD 8.x added the kernel features require by nvidia before they
would implement a 64-bit version, but nvidia-driver-173 was already a
legacy driver at that point.
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 359, Issue 2

2011-04-20 Thread Daniel Staal

On Tue, April 19, 2011 8:30 am, erkin.a...@gmail.com wrote:
 fetch is not working.

Of the twenty emails that you just quoted, which are you replying to?

Daniel T. Staal

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 359, Issue 2

2011-04-19 Thread erkin . atak
fetch is not working.

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   1. can't determine sound card driver to use in /etc/rc.conf
  (Antonio Olivares)
   2. Re: can't determine sound card driver to use in /etc/rc.conf
  (Craig Butler)
   3. ZFS on USB / Sound on alienware m11x (Gautham Ganapathy)
   4. Re: ZFS on USB / Sound on alienware m11x (Craig Whipp)
   5. Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map
  (Sascha Vieweg)
   6. Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map
  (Chuck Swiger)
   7. Re: FreeBSD VMWare Mac screen resulution and keyboard map
  (David Scheidt)
   8. Unable to find an appropriate lock to guard the shared cache.
  This  *should* be essentially impossible (Steven Friedrich)
   9. Re: ZFS on USB / Sound on alienware m11x (Gautham Ganapathy)
  10. RE: 3par iscsi with 8.2? (Ragona, Derek)
  11. Re: Unable to find an appropriate lock to guard the shared
  cache. This *should* be essentially impossible (Chuck Swiger)
  12. Re: can't determine sound card driver to use in /etc/rc.conf
  (Antonio Olivares)
  13. Re: can't determine sound card driver to use in /etc/rc.conf
  (Polytropon)
  14. RE: 3par iscsi with 8.2? (timp)
  15. Re: ZFS on USB / Sound on alienware m11x (bw)
  16. pkg_add problem (H.Erkin ATAK)
  17. Re: pkg_add problem (krad)
  18. Re: pkg_add problem (Matthias Apitz)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 08:40:25 -0500
 From: Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com
 Subject: can't determine sound card driver to use in /etc/rc.conf
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: BANLkTin1S+Rcr=nup9l_whmz-nqo5s5...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Dear folks,

 On a new machine running AMD-64 XFCE custom by Manolis, I can't
 determine which sound driver to use for the sound card:

 grulla# kldload snd_driver
 grulla# cat /dev/sndstat
 FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2009061500/amd64)
 Installed devices:
 pcm0: HDA VIA VT1708B_1 PCM #0 Analog (play/rec) default
 pcm1: HDA VIA VT1708B_1 PCM #1 Analog (play)
 pcm2: HDA VIA VT1708B_1 PCM #2 Digital (play)
 grulla# pciconf -l
 none0@pci0:0:0:0:   class=0x05 card=0xcb8410de chip=0x03ea10de
 rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00
 isab0@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060100 card=0x34071565 chip=0x03e010de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 none1@pci0:0:1:1:   class=0x0c0500 card=0x34071565 chip=0x03eb10de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 none2@pci0:0:1:2:   class=0x05 card=0x34071565 chip=0x03f510de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 ohci0@pci0:0:2:0:   class=0x0c0310 card=0x34071565 chip=0x03f110de
 rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00
 ehci0@pci0:0:2:1:   class=0x0c0320 card=0x34071565 chip=0x03f210de
 rev=0xa3 hdr=0x00
 pcib1@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060401 card=0xcb8410de chip=0x03f310de
 rev=0xa1 hdr=0x01
 hdac0@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x040300 card=0x81081565 chip=0x03f010de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 atapci0@pci0:0:6:0: class=0x01018a card=0x34071565 chip=0x03ec10de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 nfe0@pci0:0:7:0:class=0x068000 card=0x25051565 chip=0x03ef10de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 atapci1@pci0:0:8:0: class=0x010185 card=0x54051565 chip=0x03f610de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 pcib2@pci0:0:9:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x03e810de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x01
 pcib3@pci0:0:11:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x03e910de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x01
 pcib4@pci0:0:12:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x03e910de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x01
 vgapci0@pci0:0:13:0:class=0x03 card=0x14051565 chip=0x03d010de
 rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
 hostb0@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x12001022
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 hostb1@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x12011022
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 hostb2@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x12021022
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 hostb3@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x12031022
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 hostb4@pci0:0:24:4: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x12041022
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 ral0@pci0:1:6:0:class=0x028000 card=0x25611814 chip=0x03011814
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00


 mixer gives me the following:

 grulla# mixer
 Mixer vol  is currently set to  75:75
 Mixer pcm  is currently set to  75:75
 Mixer line is currently set to  75:75
 Mixer mic  is currently set to   0:0
 Mixer rec  is currently set to  75:75

Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 350, Issue 10

2011-02-20 Thread Chris Rees
Sorry Mats, I couldn't find anything in that email! Please would you resend
it, with only relevant quotes and with an appropriate subject?

Chris
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 340, Issue 15

2010-12-12 Thread Mark Terribile
 
 It's ok, that i can use this, when i want an incrementing
 sequence, in a given way:
 
 # {START..END..INCREMENT}
 $ for i in {0..10..2}; do echo Welcome $i times; done
 Welcome 0 times
 Welcome 2 times
 Welcome 4 times
 Welcome 6 times
 Welcome 8 times
 Welcome 10 times
 $
 
 but what's the magic for this? :
 
 $ MAGIC; do echo Welcome $i times; done
 Welcome 0 times
 Welcome 1 times
 Welcome 4 times
 Welcome 5 times
 Welcome 8 times
 Welcome 9 times
 $

What's wrong with

for i in 0 1 4 5 8 9 ; do echo Welcome $i times; done

  ?

Or is there some rule that you want followed?  If there is, it's not
obvious to me.  (Sorry.)

Mark Terribile


  
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 340, Issue 15

2010-12-12 Thread Derrick Ryalls
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Mark Terribile materrib...@yahoo.comwrote:

 
  It's ok, that i can use this, when i want an incrementing
  sequence, in a given way:
 
  # {START..END..INCREMENT}
  $ for i in {0..10..2}; do echo Welcome $i times; done
  Welcome 0 times
  Welcome 2 times
  Welcome 4 times
  Welcome 6 times
  Welcome 8 times
  Welcome 10 times
  $
 
  but what's the magic for this? :
 
  $ MAGIC; do echo Welcome $i times; done
  Welcome 0 times
  Welcome 1 times
  Welcome 4 times
  Welcome 5 times
  Welcome 8 times
  Welcome 9 times
  $

 What's wrong with

 for i in 0 1 4 5 8 9 ; do echo Welcome $i times; done

  ?

 Or is there some rule that you want followed?  If there is, it's not
 obvious to me.  (Sorry.)

Mark Terribile


 +1, +3, +1, +3
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 340, Issue 15

2010-12-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Derrick Ryalls on Sunday, 12 December 2010:
 On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Mark Terribile materrib...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
  
   It's ok, that i can use this, when i want an incrementing
   sequence, in a given way:
  
   # {START..END..INCREMENT}
   $ for i in {0..10..2}; do echo Welcome $i times; done
   Welcome 0 times
   Welcome 2 times
   Welcome 4 times
   Welcome 6 times
   Welcome 8 times
   Welcome 10 times
   $
  
   but what's the magic for this? :
  
   $ MAGIC; do echo Welcome $i times; done
   Welcome 0 times
   Welcome 1 times
   Welcome 4 times
   Welcome 5 times
   Welcome 8 times
   Welcome 9 times
   $
 
  What's wrong with
 
  for i in 0 1 4 5 8 9 ; do echo Welcome $i times; done
 
   ?
 
  Or is there some rule that you want followed?  If there is, it's not
  obvious to me.  (Sorry.)
 
 Mark Terribile
 
 
  +1, +3, +1, +3
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How about a direct approach:

i=0;j=1
while true;do
  echo Welcome $i times
  i=`expr $i + $j`;if [ $j -eq 1 ];then;j=3;else;j=1;fi
done

Might want to pipe that to more or less.

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 340, Issue 15

2010-12-12 Thread Mark Terribile

Okay, per private correspondence, here's one that works for the rule (insert 
your
own upper limit):

(( s = -3, d = -1 )) ; while (( i = ( s += 2 + ( d = -d ) ),  i = 12 )) ; do
    echo Welcome $i times
done

Yeah, this needs an explanation in the comments, and it might be tricky to
extend to other sequences.  But I think I could do it for most reasonable ones.

--- On Sun, 12/12/10, Derrick Ryalls ryal...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Derrick Ryalls ryal...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 340, Issue 15
To: Mark Terribile materrib...@yahoo.com
Cc: S Mathias smathias1...@yahoo.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 1:22 PM



On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Mark Terribile materrib...@yahoo.com wrote:



 It's ok, that i can use this, when i want an incrementing

 sequence, in a given way:



 # {START..END..INCREMENT}

 $ for i in {0..10..2}; do echo Welcome $i times; done

 Welcome 0 times

 Welcome 2 times

 Welcome 4 times

 Welcome 6 times

 Welcome 8 times

 Welcome 10 times

 $



 but what's the magic for this? :



 $ MAGIC; do echo Welcome $i times; done

 Welcome 0 times

 Welcome 1 times

 Welcome 4 times

 Welcome 5 times

 Welcome 8 times

 Welcome 9 times

 $



What's wrong with



for i in 0 1 4 5 8 9 ; do echo Welcome $i times; done



  ?



Or is there some rule that you want followed?  If there is, it's not

obvious to me.  (Sorry.)



    Mark Terribile




+1, +3, +1, +3





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No resopnse on FreeBSD questions

2010-12-01 Thread Al Plant

Is the questions site and the test server off line?
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回复: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 329, Issue 2

2010-09-21 Thread fengdreamer


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日期: 2010/09/21 14:22

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  (Robert Bonomi)
   9. Re: Problems with upgrade - lost partition (Lokadamus)
  10. RSS to email? (Chris Maness)
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  12. Re: RSS to email? (Chip Camden)
  13. Re: RSS to email? (Glen Barber)
  14. Re: why is the PHP stuff line off by default in
  ports/lang/php5? (Rob Farmer)
  15. Re: RSS to email? (Michelle Konzack)
  16. Re: why is the PHP stuff line off by default in
  ports/lang/php5? (Matthew Seaman)
  17. Re: extra open ports in rkhunter (Carl Johnson)
  18. Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long (Alexander Best)
  19. Re: Problem running custom startup script at proper time (Aaron)
  20. Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer (C. P. Ghost)
  21. Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman)
  22. Re: Zip file making issues (Matt Emmerton)
  23. Re: Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman)
  24. wireless networking (William Kindler)
  25. Re: Zip file making issues (Michael Ross)
  26. Re: Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman)
  27. Re: Zip file making issues (Matthew Seaman)
  28. Re: Zip file making issues (Ryan Coleman)
  29. Re: make buildkernel pre-build too long (David DEMELIER)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:20:52 -0700
From: per...@pluto.rain.com
Subject: Re: The nightmarish problem of installing a printer
To: free...@insightbb.com
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: 4c9751a4.poujnkjk++rghed0%per...@pluto.rain.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Steven Friedrich free...@insightbb.com wrote:

  Common Unix Printing System certainly sounds as if the intent
  was to be the ONE thing that is used for printing.  Whether
  they did a good job of it is another question entirely :(

 I think that you don't fully apreciate the task at hand.  When
 Unix was first invented, there were no laser printers, ink jets,
 USB, etc.

 That no one can create a one-size fits all solution OWES to the
 fact it's simply not always possible to unify disparate designs.
 They weren't designed to be interoperable.  Technology keeps
 marchng forward. We need to discard all of it eventually.

Back in the CP/M and early MS-DOS days, similar doubts were raised
regarding display systems.

Fortunately, those doubts did not stop some developers from doing
what others thought impossible.  The results included X11, which
has been rather durable for a considerable time.


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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:19:37 -0400
From: Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: apache22 and threads
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: i77jch$ce...@dough.gmane.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Victor Sudakov wrote:

 Colleagues,
 
 When building apache22 from ports, would you recommend to enable or to
 disable threads support?
 
 Even more confusing is the fact that for ports/www/apache22 the default
 is: Enable threads support in APR is off (WITHOUT_THREADS=true)
 
 while for ports/devel/apr1 the default is:
 Enable Threads in apr is on (WITH_THREADS=true).
 
 Thank you in advance for any input.
 
 PS ports/devel/apr1 will also be used for the subversion client.
 

I wouldn't mind someone with more apache22-fu to elaborate, correcting the 
following if necessary.

My thoughts are this matters depending upon which mpm you choose to build 
into apache. The default is prefork, and it handles incoming requests by 
spawning child processes. The main shortcoming associated with this approach 
is resources such as database connections are not shareable between the 
child processes, e.g. each must have its own. So each incoming request has 
to fork a child, then build up, consume

Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-21 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, jhell wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  On 08/20/2010 23:08, jhell wrote:
   
  Dear Sir/Madam,
  Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
  it to.
  For more information on our business please click on the following
  link:
  [1]Click here for our website
  We look forward to your continued business in the future.
  Regards,
  Webmaster
   
   References
   
  1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
  
  I would apologize for this but I did not write the above message or have
  any involvement with the websites herein the original message.
  
  This message (The one I am sending) is marked with a real high priority
  and signed with DSN  RR turned on. Please ignore these.

Ok, well that message forged as if from you was also delightfully cc'd 
to postmas...@freebsd.org, so David has at least one direct copy to work 
with and should be able to block the source, as far as them reaching the 
freebsd list/s anyway.

Other participants may still have to deal with off-list copies, possibly 
forged as coming from:

Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26])

Thanks to all, but let's not discuss this further on freebsd-questions?

cheers, Ian

  Regards,
  
  - -- 
  
   jhell,v
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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-21 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 09:33 -0400, Rod Person wrote:
 Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine 
 when a posting to the lists need moderation?
 I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or 
 comments such as above.
 
 But, then I try to post something and I get a you posting is 
 awaiting moderator approval. Then I get a email that
 my posting was rejected with comments that state I don't see what 
 this has to do with FreeBSD. But, then we have
 these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see replies 
 that go way off topic of FreeBSD.
 
 Just wondering.

I've received a response like that awaiting moderator approval when
I've inadvertently sent a message to a list from other than my
subscribed address. I don't recall ever seeing such a response from a
non-subscription list (like -questions).


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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-20 Thread jhell

   Dear Sir/Madam,
   Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
   it to.
   For more information on our business please click on the following
   link:
   [1]Click here for our website
   We look forward to your continued business in the future.
   Regards,
   Webmaster

References

   1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
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Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 324, Issue 7, Message: 7
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:46:21 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:

  Subject: Re: enabling the fn-f7 switch monitor functionality
  To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org

Yes, that likely gets to postmaster@ indirectly.

  Message-ID: 4c6ca90d.4000...@dataix.net
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  
  
  Dear Sir/Madam,
  Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
  it to.
  For more information on our business please click on the following
  link:
  [1]Click here for our website
  We look forward to your continued business in the future.
  Regards,
  Webmaster
   
   References
   
  1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
  
  Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.

Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers 
to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a 
fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)

Sorry, I (need to) get the digest, only seeing short headers as quoted.

cheers, Ian
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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Ryan Coleman
I did a full header copy earlier. Perhaps someone could/should have forwarded 
that out? Just a thought. 

On Aug 19, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Ian Smith wrote:

 Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 324, Issue 7, Message: 7
 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:46:21 -0400 jhell jh...@dataix.net wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: enabling the fn-f7 switch monitor functionality
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
 
 Yes, that likely gets to postmaster@ indirectly.
 
 Message-ID: 4c6ca90d.4000...@dataix.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 
   Dear Sir/Madam,
   Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending
   it to.
   For more information on our business please click on the following
   link:
   [1]Click here for our website
   We look forward to your continued business in the future.
   Regards,
   Webmaster
 
 References
 
   1. http://www.downwind.com.au/avdir/rd.php?id=7564
 
 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.
 
 Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers 
 to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a 
 fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)
 
 Sorry, I (need to) get the digest, only seeing short headers as quoted.
 
 cheers, Ian
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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Rod Person

At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote:

  Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.

Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers
to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a
fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)


Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine 
when a posting to the lists need moderation?
I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or 
comments such as above.


But, then I try to post something and I get a you posting is 
awaiting moderator approval. Then I get a email that
my posting was rejected with comments that state I don't see what 
this has to do with FreeBSD. But, then we have
these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see replies 
that go way off topic of FreeBSD.


Just wondering.



Rod

From delusion lead me to Truth.
From darkness lead me to Light.
From death lead me to Immortality.
  -Upanishads prayer 


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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Rod Person wrote:
  At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote:
 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.
   
   Indeed.  That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers
   to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a
   fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)
  
  Can some explain to me or know what criteria is used to determine when a
  posting to the lists need moderation?
  I have read post in the past that say the list is not moderated or comments
  such as above.

I was really hoping not to start a bikeshed discussion :(  This is a 
spam / mail abuse issue, not one about content, and yes it's off-topic 
but needs dealing with.

This list is not moderated and is open to posting by non-subscribers; 
it's been that way for a very long time, and arguing for moderation 
won't change anything - who would have the time, anyway?  Some other 
freebsd lists are only open to posting by subscribers.

  But, then I try to post something and I get a you posting is awaiting
  moderator approval.

There are some automatic checks; you can get that by cross-posting to 
too many lists (more than two or three IIRC); sending to too many 
recipients; posting to a list requiring subscription, maybe others.

  Then I get a email that my posting was rejected with comments that 
  state I don't see what this has to do with FreeBSD. But, then we 
  have these junk mail and forged mail issues, not to mention I see 
  replies that go way off topic of FreeBSD.

Some list subscribers sometimes (try to) help by mailing people off-list 
about perceived off-topicness etc.  There's nobody here but us chickens.

The postmaster (and assistants), on the other hand, is/are the only ones 
who can do anything about blocking spammers and other abusers posting 
to freebsd lists, and that's generally best all dealt with off-list.

postmaster@ removed from ccs; this won't help him locate the problem.

cheers, Ian  (over and out on this topic)
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Re: Forged messages being posted to freebsd-questions

2010-08-19 Thread Arthur Chance

On 08/19/10 14:33, Rod Person wrote:

At 08:31 AM 08/19/2010, Ian Smith wrote:

 Can someone please take care of this. Its getting to be quite annoying.

Indeed. That's because noone had forwarded copies with complete headers
to postmas...@freebsd.org, who I bet hasn't the spare time to browse a
fraction of the freebsd lists (let alone -questions :)


I've simply been deleting most of these up to now but took a look at 
some today and many (I can't say all) have a second (lowest but one) 
Received: header starting


 Received: from dusk.parklogic.com (allmail.0b2.net [64.38.11.26])

and first (lowest) Received: header like

 Received: (qmail 9237 invoked by uid 511); 19 Aug 2010 14:48:30 -


Don't know if that's any help to anyone.

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Why can't I write to freebsd-questions?

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
If you can read this message,

the problem has been solved.

Thanks

Peter
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Re: Why can't I write to freebsd-questions?

2010-07-29 Thread Antonio Olivares
Peter,

I can read it .  You have solved a problem.

Regards,

Antonio

On 7/29/10, Peter Ulrich Kruppa ulr...@pukruppa.de wrote:
 If you can read this message,

 the problem has been solved.

 Thanks

 Peter
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Re: Why can't I write to freebsd-questions?

2010-07-29 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Thanks,

for some reason I could read all messages from this list, but couldn't
reply. I just unsubscribed and resubscribed.
Strange, but seems to work.

Greetings

Peter.


Am Donnerstag, den 29.07.2010, 23:07 -0500 schrieb Antonio Olivares:
 Peter,
 
 I can read it .  You have solved a problem.
 
 Regards,
 
 Antonio
 
 On 7/29/10, Peter Ulrich Kruppa ulr...@pukruppa.de wrote:
  If you can read this message,
 
  the problem has been solved.
 
  Thanks
 
  Peter
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Herramientas para la Construccion y Mas - freebsd-questions

2010-06-30 Thread Marcelo Tamer
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 308, Issue 10

2010-05-01 Thread Winston Weinert



Yes probably, but for now I can play urban terror as well. Which
features are missing ?

--
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What would be awesome is Enemy Territory Quake Wars using the linux 
compat! The issue is it requires emulation of a later kernel.


I also play Urban Terror. Join up on fsk405 Superman!

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 308, Issue 4

2010-04-27 Thread adilson
Não responda essa mensagem ela é automatica.

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Re: Configuring IPFW IP range [FreeBSD-questions] {offlist}

2010-04-05 Thread Carmel NY
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:11:42 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi
bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com articulated:

  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Apr  4 08:12:11 2010
  Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:11:47 -0400
  From: Carmel NY carmel...@hotmail.com
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Configuring IPFW IP range
 
  This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and
  running; however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring
  it to block an IP range.
 
  Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255
 
  That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network
 
  I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in
  IPFW. I have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the
  syntax correct since I cannot get the range added.
 
 
 CIDR ranges have to: (a) start on a 'power of 2' address, (b) be a
 'power of two' in size, and (c) be no larger than the 'power of 2'
 factor for the starting address.  This range is _not_ that way [fails
 (b)], so you'll have to do it with multiple entries.
 
 i.e., one for 219.128.0.0/13 which will catch 219.128.0.0 -
 219.135.255.255 and a 2nd for 219.136.0.0/15 which will catch
 219.136.0.0 - 219.137.255.255
 
 Life can get messier, when rule 3 comes into play,  consider the block
 219.130.0.0 to 219.139.255.255
 
 219.130.0.0 is on a /15 boundary, so that's the max block size you
 can use for tht starting address.
219.130.0.0/15   catches 219.130.0.0 - 219.131.255.255
 next, you can start with 219.132.0.0, which is a /14, and block a /14
 wth 219.132.0.0/14   catches 219.132.0.0 - 219.135.255.255
 now, 219.136.0.0 is a /13  so you could block that big with just more
 rule, if needed, (BUT, you only need another /14, to cover the
 remainder of the group of 10 /16s that the initial block includes.
 thus, lastly: 219.136.0.0/14   catches 219.136.0.0 - 219.139.255.255

Thanks! It was suggested that I try 'ipcalc' by another poster. I did,
and it works excellently. In any case, I do have to familiarize myself
more fully with IP addressing.
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Re: Configuring IPFW IP range [FreeBSD-questions] {offlist}

2010-04-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun Apr  4 08:12:11 2010
 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 09:11:47 -0400
 From: Carmel NY carmel...@hotmail.com
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Configuring IPFW IP range

 This is my first attempt at configuring IPFW. I have it up and running;
 however, I am not quite sure how to accomplish configuring it to block
 an IP range.

 Assume an IP range: 219.128.0.0 to 219.137.255.255

 That is an actual range: CHINANET Guangdong province network

 I want to block the entire range. I am not sure how to do it in IPFW. I
 have read the 'man' pages; however, I am not getting the syntax correct
 since I cannot get the range added.


CIDR ranges have to: (a) start on a 'power of 2' address, (b) be a 'power of 
two'
in size, and (c) be no larger than the 'power of 2' factor for the starting 
address.  This range is _not_ that way [fails (b)], so you'll have to do it with
multiple entries.

i.e., one for 219.128.0.0/13 which will catch 219.128.0.0 - 219.135.255.255
and a 2nd for 219.136.0.0/15 which will catch 219.136.0.0 - 219.137.255.255

Life can get messier, when rule 3 comes into play,  consider the block
219.130.0.0 to 219.139.255.255

219.130.0.0 is on a /15 boundary, so that's the max block size you can use
for tht starting address.
   219.130.0.0/15   catches 219.130.0.0 - 219.131.255.255
next, you can start with 219.132.0.0, which is a /14, and block a /14 wth
   219.132.0.0/14   catches 219.132.0.0 - 219.135.255.255
now, 219.136.0.0 is a /13  so you could block that big with just more rule,
if needed, (BUT, you only need another /14, to cover the remainder of the 
group of 10 /16s that the initial block includes.  thus, lastly:
   219.136.0.0/14   catches 219.136.0.0 - 219.139.255.255

This should help you get the syntax right.



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Re: Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-08 Thread Matthew Seaman

Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Friday, January 08, 2010 a las 06:57:04AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió:


Sounds like that's just graylisting.  The delay will depend on how long
it takes your MTA (or the smarthost you use) to retry the message.

In my case it seems not to be graylisting, but blacklisting; i.e. the
mail is not delivered at all :-(


Now, with the above reply, the mail of yesterday showed up in the list
as well... what is this?


Well, looking at the headers, it spent about 11 hours sitting at ms4-1.1blu.de.
Once it was accepted at freebsd.org, it went out to the list in about 2 minutes.

Received: from ms4-1.1blu.de (ms4-1.1blu.de [89.202.0.34])
by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDF3F8FC1C
for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
Fri,  8 Jan 2010 05:57:09 + (UTC)
Received: from [193.31.11.193] (helo=current.Sisis.de)
by ms4-1.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32)
(Exim 4.50) id 1NSuhI-0004mn-4D
for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:54:52 +0100
Received: from current.Sisis.de (current [127.0.0.1])
by current.Sisis.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o07FspAW026325
for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;
Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:54:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from g...@unixarea.de)

Now, not knowing what the configuration of ms4-1.1blu.de is like,
I can only speculate that it tried to deliver to mx1.freebsd.org and, for
whatever reason, failed at the initial attempt.  [It's not greylisting by
the FreeBSD mailservers, because they don't use it.]  We can't see from this
trace how many times ms4-1.1blu.de retried sending the message during that
time -- typically it should try again after 15 or 30min and then keep trying
again at that sort of interval or longer for up to 5 days.  As they are using 
Exim, it's quite likely the message ended up in a stuck-message queue which 
would still keep retrying delivery, but at a much lower frequency.

Without looking at the mail logs on mx1.freebsd.org we can't know why the
message wasn't accepted.  We can tell that it was temp-failed -- ie. you
didn't get a bounce back with a permanent failure message.  There are several
mechanisms used with e-mail that might generate this sort of temp-fail response
(SPF, DKIM -- but there are no indications freebsd.org uses these in the
message headers) or else the problem might well have been a failure in the DNS
-- if mx1.freebsd.org couldn't look up ms4-1.1blu.de or sisis.de then it 
wouldn't accept the message.  This last scenario seems the most likely to me, 
especially since you say you've recently changed e-mail service provider.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-07 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,
 
I have sent some hours ago a mail to freebsd-questions
which went out fine to the MX of my ISP (as I can see in
/var/log/maillog) but does not show up in the list and not
in the Archives. The Subject: was about sendmail and SMTP AUTH. 

I have changed the ISP today morning for outbound mail and it
may happen that this could be the cause, even if mails to
other recipients are working fine... 

Is there some kind of anti-SPAM protection for freebsd-questions
based on the IP of the SMTP origin? To whom I could contact?
 
Thanks in advance
 
matthias
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Re: Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-07 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/7/2010 2:18 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I have sent some hours ago a mail to freebsd-questions
 which went out fine to the MX of my ISP (as I can see in
 /var/log/maillog) but does not show up in the list and not
 in the Archives. The Subject: was about sendmail and SMTP AUTH. 
 
 I have changed the ISP today morning for outbound mail and it
 may happen that this could be the cause, even if mails to
 other recipients are working fine... 
 
 Is there some kind of anti-SPAM protection for freebsd-questions
 based on the IP of the SMTP origin? To whom I could contact?
  
 Thanks in advance
  
 matthias

I too have a similar problem with my emails. They take about 30-45
minutes to be posted to the list. According to Thunderbird the mail is
sent (at least to my mail server @ Bluehost), and the time-stamp on the
message reads as the time I sent it. Didn't think anyone else was having
this problem.

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Re: Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-07 Thread Programmer In Training
On 1/7/2010 2:36 PM, Programmer In Training wrote:
snip
 I too have a similar problem with my emails. They take about 30-45
 minutes to be posted to the list. According to Thunderbird the mail is
 sent (at least to my mail server @ Bluehost), and the time-stamp on the
 message reads as the time I sent it. Didn't think anyone else was having
 this problem.
 

I should note this only happens when I'm posting a new message to the
list. Replies go straight through.

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Re: Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-07 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us writes:

 On 1/7/2010 2:18 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
 
 Hello,
  
 I have sent some hours ago a mail to freebsd-questions
 which went out fine to the MX of my ISP (as I can see in
 /var/log/maillog) but does not show up in the list and not
 in the Archives. The Subject: was about sendmail and SMTP AUTH. 
 
 I have changed the ISP today morning for outbound mail and it
 may happen that this could be the cause, even if mails to
 other recipients are working fine... 
 
 Is there some kind of anti-SPAM protection for freebsd-questions
 based on the IP of the SMTP origin? To whom I could contact?
  
 Thanks in advance
  
 matthias

 I too have a similar problem with my emails. They take about 30-45
 minutes to be posted to the list. According to Thunderbird the mail is
 sent (at least to my mail server @ Bluehost), and the time-stamp on the
 message reads as the time I sent it. Didn't think anyone else was having
 this problem.

Sounds like that's just graylisting.  The delay will depend on how long
it takes your MTA (or the smarthost you use) to retry the message.

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Re: Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, January 07, 2010 a las 03:58:08PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert 
escribió:

  On 1/7/2010 2:18 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  
  Hello,
   
  I have sent some hours ago a mail to freebsd-questions
  which went out fine to the MX of my ISP (as I can see in
  /var/log/maillog) but does not show up in the list and not
  in the Archives. The Subject: was about sendmail and SMTP AUTH. 
  
  I have changed the ISP today morning for outbound mail and it
  may happen that this could be the cause, even if mails to
  other recipients are working fine... 
  
  Is there some kind of anti-SPAM protection for freebsd-questions
  based on the IP of the SMTP origin? To whom I could contact?
   
  Thanks in advance
   
  matthias
 
...
 
 Sounds like that's just graylisting.  The delay will depend on how long
 it takes your MTA (or the smarthost you use) to retry the message.

In my case it seems not to be graylisting, but blacklisting; i.e. the
mail is not delivered at all :-(

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Re: Any delivery block to freebsd-questions list?

2010-01-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 08, 2010 a las 06:57:04AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió:

  Sounds like that's just graylisting.  The delay will depend on how long
  it takes your MTA (or the smarthost you use) to retry the message.
 
 In my case it seems not to be graylisting, but blacklisting; i.e. the
 mail is not delivered at all :-(

Now, with the above reply, the mail of yesterday showed up in the list
as well... what is this?

matthias
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 290, Issue 12

2009-12-26 Thread Manish Jain


Hello,

I am looking a convenient way using C to retrieve the current CPU and 
memory utilization of a process of which I have the pid. Can somebody 
please give me a hint of which system-calls/library-functions to use for 
this ? I don't want to use the system() function or grep for information 
via the /proc filesystem.


I would be grateful if you could also please mention whether the 
suggested method[s] is/are FreeBSD-specific or would be portable to 
other environments like Solaris/Linux ?



Thanks for any help.

Regards  Happy New Year
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:04:44 +0100
From: Daniel Dvo??k dan...@hellteam.net
Subject: setlocale command is missing
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: 9ffca7e178c44c10994e4c52ac40e...@tocnet28.jspoj.czf
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

Hi,
 
I updated a mc port to the last one, version 4.7.0pre4 and wanted to run mc, but mc display a warning message that the selected display charset or source codeset does not match one set via locale. I have never seen this message since I am a user of mc. Propably it is something new in this new version. The version 4.6.2 does not show you this message durring starting application.
 
I wanted to set my locale, but I found out that command setlocale is missing on FreeBSD 7.2.
 
Files in directory /etc:
 
login.conf, login.conf.db, csh.login and profile are set as HANDBOOK recommends for language localization.
 
My shells are bash, tcsh or zsh, csh for root user. The results are the same.
 
bash:

[u...@server ~]$ LC_ALL=ISO-8859-2; export LC_ALL
-bash: varování: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (ISO-8859-2): No 
such file or directory
 
zsh:

server% setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
zsh: command not found: setlocale

tcsh:
  

setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2


setlocale: Command not found.

root csh:
server# setlocale LC_ALL ISO-8859-2
setlocale: Command not found.

So my simple question is why is setlocale command missing in FreeBSD 7.2 ? And 
if user could not use locale and setlocale commands like on Linux, how can I 
solve my problem with new version of MC ?
 
The mc message:
 
Confirmation
 
Chosen display charset (Settings-Display bits) or source codeset (in mcedit ctrl-t) does not match one set via locale. Set correct codeset manually or press Fix it to set locale default.
 
Or set 'don' task again' and press Skip
 
[ ] don't ask again
 
[ Fix it ]   [ Skip ]
 
BTW in mc there is not any settings with display bits, there is only options menu with display bits. Wrong help dialogs ?
 
Thank you
 
Daniel
 
 



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On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 12:47:49PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote

Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 287, Issue 13

2009-12-04 Thread James Phillips
Sorry about that (accidentally quoted most the Digest (issue 12) in a reply). 
Need to start using a real email client :(

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Re: [FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as root

2009-11-16 Thread James Phillips


--- On Sun, 11/15/09, CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.net wrote:
 James Phillips wrote:
  Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:29:59 -0600
  From: CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.net
  Subject: [FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as
 root
 
  The single IDE connector is accessible via the
 legacy ISA
  ports, and is
  thus limited to PIO modes (about 1.6MB/sec max,
 even with
  an actual hard
  drive instead of a CF card).
  
  You are off by an order of magnitude (base 2 or 10):
  Pio mode 0 is ~3.3 MB/s
  Pio mode 4 is ~16.7 MB/s
  
  http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesPIO-c.html
  
  You can probably set PIO mode 4 for with:
  # atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
 
 If only that were true in this case.
 
 (85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
 current mode = PIO2
 (85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
 current mode = PIO2
 (85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null
 bs=4096 count=4096
 4096+0 records in
 4096+0 records out
 16777216 bytes transferred in 10.111748 secs (1659181
 bytes/sec)
 
 Nothing I've tried seems to boost the throughput, hence the
 desire to
 use a compressed cached filesystem image.
 
 Thanks for the suggestions, though!
Ouch!

I thought the laptop I was fixing last week was bad: running Vista with a 
10MB/s transfer rate :P

The drive in my Pentium 166 gets 11-12MB/s.

I actually looked up both the PIO modes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmed_input/output

And the spec sheet (assuming Tom's hardware was wrong) before composing my 
original reply:
Intel® Entry Storage System SS4200-E
Technical product specification [PDF]
http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/ss4200-e/sb/ss4200e_tps_11.pdf

I noted that the ATA port is not listed as a feature, which is not a good sign. 
It does appear in the block-diagram labeled:DOM
Glossary definition: Disk On Module

If I had to guess: Intel did something weird or non-standard to the port, 
so the standard BSD driver does not work properly.
Have you read the ata(4) manual page?
The following  /boot/device.hints are suggested for ISA:
hint.ata.0.at=isa
hint.ata.0.port=0x1f0
hint.ata.0.irq=14
. . . port '1' probably not needed
I had a thought: it could just as easily be pc98 if they don't intend for you 
to touch the firmware.


The firmware has source code available under a GPL license.
EMCLifeLineOEMSW-1.0-GPLComponents.tar.gz
Ver:1.0 Date:9/24/2009  Size:125585 (KB)

EMCLifeLineOEMSW-1.1-GPLComponents.tar.gz
Ver:1.1 Date:9/24/2009  Size:244406 (KB)

If you are worried about license contamination, you may have to get somebody to 
look through that and document any changes (to the ATA interface). Hopefully it 
is based on a well-know code-base like Linux and the diff utility can be used.

Of course, the term components implies they only expose a HAL of some kind.

Regards,

James Phillips

PS:# atacontrol mode ad0 will simply print out the current mode.



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Re: [FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as root

2009-11-16 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
James Phillips wrote:
 
 --- On Sun, 11/15/09, CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.net wrote:
 James Phillips wrote:
 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:29:59 -0600
 From: CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.net
 Subject: [FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as
 root
 The single IDE connector is accessible via the
 legacy ISA
 ports, and is
 thus limited to PIO modes (about 1.6MB/sec max,
 even with
 an actual hard
 drive instead of a CF card).
 You are off by an order of magnitude (base 2 or 10):
 Pio mode 0 is ~3.3 MB/s
 Pio mode 4 is ~16.7 MB/s

 http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesPIO-c.html

 You can probably set PIO mode 4 for with:
 # atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
 If only that were true in this case.

 (85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
 current mode = PIO2
 (85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
 current mode = PIO2
 (85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null
 bs=4096 count=4096
 4096+0 records in
 4096+0 records out
 16777216 bytes transferred in 10.111748 secs (1659181
 bytes/sec)

 Nothing I've tried seems to boost the throughput, hence the
 desire to
 use a compressed cached filesystem image.

 Thanks for the suggestions, though!
 Ouch!
 
 I thought the laptop I was fixing last week was bad: running Vista with a 
 10MB/s transfer rate :P
 
 The drive in my Pentium 166 gets 11-12MB/s.
 
 I actually looked up both the PIO modes:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmed_input/output
 
 And the spec sheet (assuming Tom's hardware was wrong) before composing my 
 original reply:
 Intel® Entry Storage System SS4200-E
 Technical product specification [PDF]
 http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/ss4200-e/sb/ss4200e_tps_11.pdf
 
 I noted that the ATA port is not listed as a feature, which is not a good 
 sign. It does appear in the block-diagram labeled:DOM
 Glossary definition: Disk On Module

The model I have is the SS-4200EHW. Identical, save the lack of a DOM
and firmware. And price.

 If I had to guess: Intel did something weird or non-standard to the port, 
 so the standard BSD driver does not work properly.
 Have you read the ata(4) manual page?
 The following  /boot/device.hints are suggested for ISA:
 hint.ata.0.at=isa
 hint.ata.0.port=0x1f0
 hint.ata.0.irq=14

This is actually how I got the amd64 build to recognize the port. These
lines were present in x86, but missing in amd64 device.hints.

 . . . port '1' probably not needed
 I had a thought: it could just as easily be pc98 if they don't intend for 
 you to touch the firmware.

Hm. This might be something to look into.

 The firmware has source code available under a GPL license.
 EMCLifeLineOEMSW-1.0-GPLComponents.tar.gz
 Ver:1.0   Date:9/24/2009  Size:125585 (KB)
 
 EMCLifeLineOEMSW-1.1-GPLComponents.tar.gz
 Ver:1.1   Date:9/24/2009  Size:244406 (KB)

I checked previously, and Linux has the same limitations. The port is
recognized as a legacy ISA IDE port by the ide-generic driver, and maxes
out at a ludicrously low throughput. The official firmware gets around
this by preloading filesystems into RAM.

 If you are worried about license contamination, you may have to get somebody 
 to look through that and document any changes (to the ATA interface). 
 Hopefully it is based on a well-know code-base like Linux and the diff 
 utility can be used.
 
 Of course, the term components implies they only expose a HAL of some kind.
 
 Regards,
 
 James Phillips
 
 PS:# atacontrol mode ad0 will simply print out the current mode.

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 284, Issue 11

2009-11-15 Thread James Phillips

 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:29:59 -0600
 From: CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.net
 Subject: [FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as root
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: CyberLeo cyber...@cyberleo.net
 Message-ID: 4aff67a7.6040...@cyberleo.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 I have been thinking and experimenting for weeks, but I
 cannot figure
 this out.
 
 I have an Intel SS4200 NAS that I wish to use as a ZFS NAS
 with FreeBSD 8.0.
 
 The device has 4 SATA bays, and I don't want to use one for
 a UFS root disk.
 
 I don't want to use up hundreds of megabytes of RAM
 preloading an
 mfsroot that can never shrink.
 
 The single IDE connector is accessible via the legacy ISA
 ports, and is
 thus limited to PIO modes (about 1.6MB/sec max, even with
 an actual hard
 drive instead of a CF card).

You are off by an order of magnitude (base 2 or 10):
Pio mode 0 is ~3.3 MB/s
Pio mode 4 is ~16.7 MB/s

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesPIO-c.html

You can probably set PIO mode 4 for with:
# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4

I am currently using ~ 159MB on my root partition,

At 16.7MB/s that is a 10 second load time; and as you said, frequently used 
files will be cached. (I have a CF card that has 15MB/s symmetric read/write. 
Don't know how special it is.)

With a CF card there should be no seek delay of ~ 10 ms (for reads anyway, 
deleting blocks probably takes 10ms).

Regards,

James Phillips

SNIPPED pivot_root attempt I can't help with.
My summary: maybe you are trying too hard :)



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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 284, Issue 11

2009-11-15 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
James Phillips wrote:
 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:29:59 -0600
 From: CyberLeo Kitsana cyber...@cyberleo.net
 Subject: [FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as root

 The single IDE connector is accessible via the legacy ISA
 ports, and is
 thus limited to PIO modes (about 1.6MB/sec max, even with
 an actual hard
 drive instead of a CF card).
 
 You are off by an order of magnitude (base 2 or 10):
 Pio mode 0 is ~3.3 MB/s
 Pio mode 4 is ~16.7 MB/s
 
 http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/modesPIO-c.html
 
 You can probably set PIO mode 4 for with:
 # atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4

If only that were true in this case.

(85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
current mode = PIO2
(85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# atacontrol mode ad0 PIO4
current mode = PIO2
(85eef1f3)[r...@ss4200 ~]# dd if=/dev/ad0 of=/dev/null bs=4096 count=4096
4096+0 records in
4096+0 records out
16777216 bytes transferred in 10.111748 secs (1659181 bytes/sec)

Nothing I've tried seems to boost the throughput, hence the desire to
use a compressed cached filesystem image.

Thanks for the suggestions, though!

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[FreeBSD Questions] Filesystem image as root

2009-11-14 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
I have been thinking and experimenting for weeks, but I cannot figure
this out.

I have an Intel SS4200 NAS that I wish to use as a ZFS NAS with FreeBSD 8.0.

The device has 4 SATA bays, and I don't want to use one for a UFS root disk.

I don't want to use up hundreds of megabytes of RAM preloading an
mfsroot that can never shrink.

The single IDE connector is accessible via the legacy ISA ports, and is
thus limited to PIO modes (about 1.6MB/sec max, even with an actual hard
drive instead of a CF card).

Performance is acceptable when using a geom_uzip image from a CF card on
the IDE connector, as a lot of it ends up cached in RAM (and is
evictable in case of memory pressure, unlike an mfsroot).

Try as I might, I am unable to figure out how to use a uzip imagefile on
UFS as a root filesystem, without dedicating a slice/partition to it.
There seems to be nothing approximating GNU/Linux's pivot_root, and
using a stub init (which cannot be a shellscript...?) to mdconfig and
mount the image, then chroot to that to exec /sbin/init appears to lead
to instant deadlock.

I don't really like the idea of mounting the image somewhere below root,
and using symlink spaghetti to get everything proper; especially since I
wish to place such essentials as /sbin and /etc thereupon, which leads
to a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem with setting up and mounting an
image that contains its mdconfig and mount...

Am I missing something obvious here, or am I truly treading unexplored
territory?

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Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Chuck Swiger wrote:

Hi, Chris--

On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name 
in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for 
setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into 
different 'folders'


I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account settings 
to add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it seen as 
undesirable?


It's a per-list option in Mailman, not a per-user option.  In order to 
filter list mail, you can key off of the List-Id: header instead


Regards,

Thanks, List-Id sounds good.

Chris
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[freebsd-questions] in subject line

2009-10-26 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Hi

Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in 
square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for 
setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into different 
'folders'


I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account settings to 
add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it seen as undesirable?


Thanks

Chris
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Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line

2009-10-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

Hi, Chris--

On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list  
name in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite  
useful for setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists  
into different 'folders'


I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account  
settings to add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it  
seen as undesirable?


It's a per-list option in Mailman, not a per-user option.  In order to  
filter list mail, you can key off of the List-Id: header instead


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Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line

2009-10-26 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:43:17 +
Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote:

 Hi
 
 Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in 
 square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for 
 setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into different 
 'folders'
 
 I couldn't see anything in my freebsd questions list account settings to 
 add that behaviour. Is it possible somehow? Or is it seen as undesirable?
 
 Thanks
 
 Chris
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So no need for [ ] if you filter by to or list-id or cc or all
together.  I`m using Sylpheed

cheers

Daniel


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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 276, Issue 5

2009-09-15 Thread James Phillips

 
 Message: 15
 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:13:17 -0400
 From: Jerry ges...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: reporter on deadline seeks comment about
 reported
     security bug in FreeBSD
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: 20090915141317.7a41b...@scorpio.seibercom.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:18:29 -0400
 Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com
 wrote:
 
SNIP!
 
 The fact is, that you do in fact notify me. Keeping
 important security
 information secret benefits no one, except for possibly
 those
 responsible for the problem to begin with who do not want
 the
 knowledge of the problem to become public. A multitude of
 software,
 such as Mozilla, publish known security holes in their
 software.
 The ramifications of allowing a user to actively use a
 piece of
 software when a known bug/exploit/etc. exists within it is
 grossly
 negligent.
   

The important question is: known by whom?
Every reviewer brings their own bias and experience. The code has not been 
proven correct, so there is not reason to assume that a Black-hat will find 
the same bug/exploit. If there are more than about 3 unknown exploits, they are 
more likely to find a different one.

IMO, Mozilla is a bad example. I've been bitten by (non-security) bugs going 
back to 1.5 or earlier. Disclosure: I still prefer Lynx.


SNIP!

 


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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 270, Issue 19

2009-08-10 Thread Jay Hall


On Aug 9, 2009, at 7:00 AM, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote:

  I had no problems using that command line with GNU tar versions  
1.14 and

  1.22.  I'd grab the source and upgrade if I were you:
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/tar/tar-1.22.tar.gz


I upgraded and everything is fine now.

Thanks.

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 267, Issue 3

2009-07-13 Thread Adam Townsend
 A bit of reading shows that ZFS, if it's stable enough, has some
 really great features that would be nice on such a large pile o'
 drives.

 See http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSQuickStartGuide

 I guess the last question I'll ask (as any more may uncover my
 ignorance) is if you need to use hardware RAID at all?  It seems
 both UFS2 and ZFS can do software RAID which seems to be quite
 reasonable with respect to performance and in many ways seems to be
 more robust since it is a bit more portable (no specialized
 hardware).

 I've thought about this one a lot. In my case, the hard drives are in
 a separate enclosure from the server and the two had to be connected
 via SAS cables. The 9690SA-8E card was the best choice I could find
 for accessing an external SAS enclosure with support for 8 drives.

 I could configure it in JBOD mode and then use software to create a
 RAID array. In fact, I will likely do this to compare performance of a
 hardware vs. software RAID5 solution. The ZFS RAID-Z option does not
 appeal to me, because the read performance does not benefit from
 additional drives, and I don't think RAID6 is available in software.
 For those reasons I'm leaning toward a hardware implementation.



 Hi Maxim,

 RAID-Z2 is the RAID6 double parity option in ZFS.


 gr
 Arno


I'm planning on doing something like this once I get 2 more 1TB
drives.  I'm going to try out a zfs RAID-Z not RAID-Z2, but yeah.
I've been around openSolaris' docs on zfs  it seems to be really
robust, you can export it on one OS and import it on another (incase
your root dies, or you want to migrate your disks to another box), you
can take snapshots which are stored on the drive, but I'm sure you
could send those files somewhere to be backed up.  And if you have
really important files you can create multiple copies of them
automatically with ZFS.  If you set it up with multiple vdevs, you can
get a lot more speed out of disk I/O as well, because if you have like
2 raidz vdevs, it stripes them, so you can pull data faster from both.
 I can't remember if it was on this or another list, but there was a
great discussion about the performance abilities/issues of zfs  they
had some good points like not using more than 8 drives per vdev 
such.

Try it out both ways and see which is best.  there are pro's  con's
to both, but it all depends on what you need for your solution. 
remember raid is not a form of back-up.  so if this is for critical
information, make sure you back-up as well.

Cheers,
Bucky
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 264, Issue 3

2009-06-23 Thread The Ghost

DA Forsyth wrote:
On 22 Jun 2009 , freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org entreated 
about

 freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 264, Issue 3:

I am trying to find out the temperature of my CPU. After a whole night 
from dusk till dawn of searching the Web like a furious spider, I got 
the following results: it can be done via either ISA or SMB, with one of 
the ports: lmmon, healthd, consolehm or mbmon, and there are also few 
modules that are required in the kernel: smb, smbus, intpm, ichsmb 


I used a TUSL2 board for a while for one of my servers and mbmon 
worked fine with it.  I did have to compile mbmon without SMB support 
though (just look inside the Makefile for the right thing to define 
to prevent smb support).  Then when you do a 'mbmon -d' it will tell 
you what it finds.   I never even tried adding smb support to the 
kernel until after I upgraded both the motherboard and BSD to 7.1 and 
was curious to see what it might give me.


cya

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Holy cahones de la... *skipping few languages* ...rear of Vyagrimukha 
and Leviathan!! I'm so happy, de merde!.. So, like... When installing 
mbmon, it gives you an option to disable SMB support; I did never even 
think about disabling it because where would it take the data from?!.. I 
do not have ISA or I2C, so SMB seemed like the only way. But, with this 
support, it's completely impossible to read the temperatures (and -d 
says that, like, ICH found but there is hardware monitor on it...), and 
when you disable this support - it reads everything properly!! Thank you 
very much, my new old CPU will now rest happily knowing that I always 
watch carefully after its temperature...

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Re: The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-14 Thread Mel Flynn
On Friday 12 June 2009 22:21:08 Leslie Jensen wrote:

 No matches were found for ...

htdung is a failed project.

 How should I search the list ?

http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
-- 
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The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-13 Thread Leslie Jensen

Hello list!

I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive to 
find answers.


I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns

No matches were found for ...


Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time

--

Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb 2007 
06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a search. 
Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this list. You can 
use a View by date link below to access more recent postings.


---

How should I search the list ?


/Leslie

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Re: The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-13 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:21:08 +0200
Leslie Jensen les...@eskk.nu wrote:

 Hello list!
 
 I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive
 to find answers.
 
 I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns
 
 No matches were found for ...
 
 
 Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time
 
 --
 
 Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb
 2007 06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a
 search. Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this
 list. You can use a View by date link below to access more recent
 postings.
 
 ---
 
 How should I search the list ?

The easiest way is probably to use Google - start at
http://groups.google.com/group/ml-freebsd-questions?lnk=srg

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Re: The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-13 Thread membrana

Leslie Jensen wrote:

Hello list!

I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive 
to find answers.


I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns

No matches were found for ...


Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time

--

Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb 
2007 06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a 
search. Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this 
list. You can use a View by date link below to access more recent 
postings.


---

How should I search the list ?


/Leslie

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unix.derkeiler.com
mail-archive.com
and alikes

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Re: The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-13 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Leslie Jensen wrote:

Hello list!

I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive to 
find answers.


I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns

No matches were found for ...


Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time

--

Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb 2007 
06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a search. 
Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this list. You can 
use a View by date link below to access more recent postings.


---

How should I search the list ?


Try http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists

(and search for archive search working)

Chris




/Leslie

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Re: The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Leslie Jensenles...@eskk.nu wrote:
 Hello list!

 I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive to
 find answers.

 I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns

 No matches were found for ...


 Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time

 --

 Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08 Feb 2007
 06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found by a search. Index
 rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours for this list. You can use a
 View by date link below to access more recent postings.

 ---

 How should I search the list ?

http://marc.info/?w=2



 /Leslie

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The freebsd-questions Archives

2009-06-13 Thread Robert Huff

Leslie Jensen writes:

  I try not to disturb the list unless I need to using the list archive to 
  find answers.
  
  I've never been successful in searching the archives it always returns
  
  No matches were found for ...
  
  
  Now I see that the search index is not rebuild for a long time
  
  --
  
  Note:The archive search index was last rebuilt at Thursday, 08
  Feb 2007 06:16:51 UTC. Any postings after that will not be found
  by a search.  Index rebuild is usally done once every 24 hours
  for this list. You can use a View by date link below to access
  more recent postings.

If this is true - if this represents a failure to rebuild the
index, instead of a failure to accurately record when the index was
rebuilt - well, actually it's a problem in both cases just a much
bigger one in the former.  Please test to make sure (for example,
are these messages indexed within 48 hours?) and if true file a PR.
You may be on to something.  Messages I sent to ports@ on
Tuesday have not appeared on the index.



Robert Huff

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 262, Issue 2

2009-06-08 Thread DA Forsyth
 Message: 22
 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:10:50 -0300
 From: Friedrich Locke friedrich.lo...@gmail.com
 Subject: SAN FreeBSD Server
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID:
   e678d5750906080410k62cc551el8ff8c89e9555...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Dear gentleman,
 
 i would like to configure a FreeBSD installation as storage server
 solution. Iwould like to use iSCSI.
 Is it possible to configure a server running FreeBSD as a iSCSI server
 (i.e., i mean as a target)?

indeed it is as others have said.  However, if all you need is a 
bunch of disk space accessible over the network, then FreeNAS would 
be a lot simpler to setup and maintain.   Based on FreeBSD, iSCSI 
service built in, WEbGUI interface (but you can ssh in if you want 
to).  one caveat, don't use it with USB external drives as it will 
lose connections as soon as you mount the 2nd USB drive.


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RE: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-14 Thread Sean Cavanaugh


 
 
 based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that
 
 when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified:
 
 Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you
 actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way
 that I think that Red Hat Linux is fine, or SuSE Linux
 or Debian Linux, because if you actually make your own
 distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but
 calling Linux in general GNU Linux i
 I think is just ridiculous.
 
 (G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh
 
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 thanks
 Saifi.
 


And in the end, the world almost never heard of Linux and would have had BSD 
everywhere. Linus stated that he prob would have never made Linux if the 
litigation around BSD 4.4 had ended earlier. 

But why he feels like he can take over the GNU OS just because he made the 
kernel never made sense to me. I'm glad the GNU project finally got Hurd going 
though, even though they too almost went with a BSD 4.4 based kernel before 
Linux came along

-Sean
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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-14 Thread Chris Rees
2009/5/14 Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org:
 On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:

 --
 From: Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM
 To: Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com
 Cc: jerr...@msu.edu; korikov...@gmail.com; 
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

  On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
 
  
   (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS).
 
  Not true.
 
  Please see
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
 
 
  thanks
  Saifi.
 

 based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that
 GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Linux 
 is
 that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream media.


 based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that

 when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified:

    Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you
    actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way
    that I think that Red Hat Linux is fine, or SuSE Linux
    or Debian Linux, because if you actually make your own
    distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but
    calling Linux in general GNU Linux i
    I think is just ridiculous.

 (G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh


 Hope this helps.

 thanks
 Saifi.

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[ch...@amnesiac]~% echo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd; | wc -c
  38
[ch...@amnesiac]~% echo http://is.gd/zGZh |wc -c
  18

Seriously, please don't obfuscate URLs when there's no real need to.
Those of us who are careful prefer not to follow strange looking
links; it's counterproductive. is.gd and tinyurl are great if you have
to type in monstrous links like

http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/10/13/Using-Vista_2700_s-Boot-Manager-to-Boot-Linux-and-Dual-Booting-with-BitLocker-Protection-with-TPM-Support.aspx

However, there's no need when it's either copy-paste or click, and
just confuses things.

Also, Torvalds talks about stuff like that far too much. It's only
fair to call it GNU/Linux; it IS GNU on top of the Linux kernel. It's
like calling Mac OS X Darwin, or NeXTSTEP Mach (or worse, FreeBSD!).

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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Shakil Khan
Hi,

Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am
on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly
and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of
FreeBSD kernek source code.

Regards
~Korikov
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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Shakil Khan korikov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am
 on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly
 and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of
 FreeBSD kernek source code.


You can install using sysinstall, but that will be out of date.

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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Shakil Khan korikov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am
 on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly
 and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of
 FreeBSD kernek source code.

I'm likely missing something . . . I apologize if I am, but why can't
you use CVS on linux?

One of many examples found after googling installing cvs linux:

http://www.freeos.com/articles/4608/


 Regards
 ~Korikov
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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Tim Judd
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Shakil Khan korikov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am
 on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me
 exactly
 and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of
 FreeBSD kernek source code.

 Regards
 ~Korikov


download the ssrc.?? files, cat them together, and then it's a tarfile that
needs these arguments to extract

tar -xpzf ssrc.tgz -C /preffered/location

Hopefully Linux can handle the permissions/paths correctly.

--TJ
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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:33:44PM +0530, Shakil Khan wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am
 on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly
 and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of
 FreeBSD kernek source code.

My suggestion would be to download the latest ISO and install it on
a machine with full source.  Then you will have kernel and everything
to make a FreeBSD including the correct compilers and libraries.

Kernel is really dealt with differently in FreeBSD than in Linux.
Although there is a kernel, it is intimately part of the whole
operating system, not a kernel which someone grabs makes up a separate 
distribution with.   

jerry


 Regards
 ~Korikov
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RE: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:55:52 -0400
 From: jerr...@msu.edu
 To: korikov...@gmail.com
 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list
 
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:33:44PM +0530, Shakil Khan wrote:
 
  Hi,
  
  Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code. I am
  on Linux and am not able to download using CVS. Can someone point me exactly
  and also if some links are available where I can download tar ball of
  FreeBSD kernek source code.
 
 My suggestion would be to download the latest ISO and install it on
 a machine with full source.  Then you will have kernel and everything
 to make a FreeBSD including the correct compilers and libraries.
 
 Kernel is really dealt with differently in FreeBSD than in Linux.
 Although there is a kernel, it is intimately part of the whole
 operating system, not a kernel which someone grabs makes up a separate 
 distribution with.   
 

to piggy-back a little more, FreeBSD is an entire Operating System whereas 
Linux is just a Kernel used to run the GNU Operating system (The true 
nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS).
the GNU project is currently working on writing their own Kernel named Hurd 
based off the mach kernel.
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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Duane
On 5/13/09, Shakil Khan korikov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone let me know how can I download FreeBSD kernel source code.


1. Surf to http://freebsd.org.

2. Notice that there are now two flavors of FreeBSD:

LATEST RELEASES

* Production Release 7.2
* Production (Legacy) Release 6.4

3. Click on 'Documentation' and then 'Handbook'.

4. Scroll down to the table of contents of 'Appendix A. Obtaining
FreeBSD' and review these possibilities. I suggest you try CVSup.
There are CVSup clients available for virtually all Unixen systems,
including Linux.

NB. Now, read carefully the section on CVSup:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

You can grab whatever source you want with this method.

5. RTFM!


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RE: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Saifi Khan
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:

 
 (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS).

Not true. 

Please give us the credit for userland is the line of
reasoning used for the puported TLA prefix ! silly actually.

Please see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy


thanks
Saifi.
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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Cavanaugh

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From: Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM
To: Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com
Cc: jerr...@msu.edu; korikov...@gmail.com; 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

Subject: RE: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list


On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:



(The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS).


Not true.

Please give us the credit for userland is the line of
reasoning used for the puported TLA prefix ! silly actually.

Please see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy


thanks
Saifi.



based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that 
GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Linux 
is that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream 
media. There is additional in that it also runs non-GNU based programs such 
as apache, but the base of it all is that Linux by itself is not an OS, just 
a kernel. Debian Illustrates this perfectly as they have done several 
different distros using different Kernels to run GNU userland, including 
FreeBSD ( http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ ), NetBSD, and Hurd.


-Sean 


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Re: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list

2009-05-13 Thread Saifi Khan
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:

 --
 From: Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:04 PM
 To: Sean Cavanaugh millenia2...@hotmail.com
 Cc: jerr...@msu.edu; korikov...@gmail.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list
 
  On Wed, 13 May 2009, Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
 
  
   (The true nomenclature is GNU/Linux when refering to a Linux based OS).
 
  Not true.
 
  Please see
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
 
 
  thanks
  Saifi.
 
 
 based on the wiki page (which we ALL know is NEVER wrong) states that
 GNU/Linux is the correct form and the ONLY reason for calling it just Linux is
 that its easier to say and that's how its known overall in mainstream media.


based on Linus Torvalds (which we ALL know is RIGHT) states that

when asked if the name GNU/Linux was justified:

Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you
actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way
that I think that Red Hat Linux is fine, or SuSE Linux
or Debian Linux, because if you actually make your own
distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but
calling Linux in general GNU Linux i
I think is just ridiculous.

(G)ot (N)othing (U)nique takes years since 1989 for http://is.gd/zGZh


Hope this helps.

thanks
Saifi.

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RE: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 253, Issue 1

2009-03-30 Thread ZEKAYİ TOPCU


artık bu e mail den bıktım almak istemiyorum allah allah silin y 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:11:54 +0300
 From: Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr
 Subject: Re: [OT] - Best Practices(TM) for Configuration File Changes
 To: Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: 87bprkbkad@kobe.laptop
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:37:27 -0400, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Hello, list.
 
  Before I pose my question, I am not intending to start a flame-war of
  any sort -- I'm just searching for different ways of doing things.
 
  With so many different version control systems available (aside from
  the traditional keep current backups solution), I am curious:
 
  Q: What is *your* favorite/suggestion solution to keep (working)
  versions of configuration files, in case something goes awry?
 
  I am specifically targeting configuration files because they are what
  I change the most, in avoidance of It worked 10 minutes ago...
  situations.
 
 The base system of FreeBSD includes RCS[1]. I regularly use it to
 track changes to individual files. The advantage of RCS is that it is
 easy to use from a system that is barely `up', i.e. a system that has
 just been brought up to single user mode. No special daemons or other
 sort of service is required, no ports to be installed, and so on. I
 can usually just run something like:
 
 [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs/
 
 # cd /boot
 # rlog loader.conf
 
 RCS file: RCS/loader.conf,v
 Working file: loader.conf
 head: 1.5
 branch:
 locks: strict
 access list:
 symbolic names:
 keyword substitution: kv
 total revisions: 5; selected revisions: 5
 description:
 
 revision 1.5
 date: 2009/03/27 17:58:59; author: root; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1
 Autoload acpi_ibm.ko for the extra Thinkpad X61s tunables.
 
 [more output snipped]
 #
 
 Whenever I want

Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 252, Issue 11

2009-03-28 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
Hello :)
Thank you very much!
I added the line in ipfw script, loaded the script,
and was able to send the email with attachment.
Then tried again without the line  $cmd 00151 allow icmp from any to
any icmptypes 3 (after reboot) and it didn't send the email.
So including the line did the trick .. Thanks  Bravo!

Regards,
Roy.

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 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:54:29 +
 From: RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Problem with Gmail/Evolution and IPFW
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Message-ID: 20090327215429.17222...@gumby.homeunix.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:01:51 +0100
 Roy Stuivenberg roys1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello, 
  
  I'm having a problem with Gmail and IPFW. 
  Gmail is configured in Evolution.
  running prerelease 7.2 / stable + Gnome2
  
  When I can't send mail (with attachment), I 
  have to disable IPFW, and at that point I'm able to send mail.
 
 This sounds like it could be a path mtu discovery problem; try adding
 the following: 
 
 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 250, Issue 2

2009-03-10 Thread joko bodo
why if iget  email from milis my subject always freebsd-questions Digest,
Vol 250, Issue 2

thx

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 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:34:09 -0300
 From: Daniel Molina Wegener d...@coder.cl
 Subject: Re: USENET?
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 El Sunday 08 March 2009 23:38:14 Robert Huff escribió:
  Dan Nelson writes:
 are there any ports that offer an interface to USENET?  I think
 mozilla did, but that was a long time ago ...  .
  
Mozilla simply changed names to Seamonkey and is still alive and
   kicking.
 
Thunderbird also has this ability.

  I'm currently using knode from kde ports...

 
 
Robert Huff
 
  [SNIP]

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  at least in Poland there are free. and for my clients i have nntpcache'd
  news from Gda?sk University.
 
  Actually, in most parts of the world, news are still freely available
  with many ISPs (you may have to ask them explicitly), except for
  alt.binaries.* which are quite bandwidth intensive.

 i'm connected to university network (commercially, not as a student ;), i
 have all their service included in price. alt.binaries.* too, don't know
 if all of them as i don't use it.

 
  Your typical small ISP would rather save the bandwidth it takes to
  transfer all articles, esp. if only a fraction of them are accessed

 nntpcache is exactly for this. it's like squid, just for nntp

 it's worth even with 1 nntp user, and it takes 5 minutes to configure.


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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 250, Issue 2

2009-03-10 Thread Crescent Hikari
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM, joko bodo kijok...@gmail.com wrote:

 why if iget  email from milis my subject always freebsd-questions Digest,
 Vol 250, Issue 2

 thx


I think because you are set the option
Would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest?
to Yes when you are subscribe to this email

you can change it on your user page in from your second email from this
mailing list that had subject like this Welcome to the freebsd-questions
mailing list
and login to your account on this mailing list, and set Digest mode to off

best regards,

Fiqri

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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 248, Issue 23

2009-02-25 Thread Ian Smith
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.org wrote:
[..]
  Today's Topics:
  
 1. Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 248, Issue 23 (Kayven Riese)
[..]
  Message: 1
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:43:43 -0800
  From: Kayven Riese kay...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 248, Issue 23
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  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
  
  Never mind.
  
  On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:36 PM, 
  freebsd-questions-requ...@freebsd.orgwrote:

We do mind.

Please don't ever again top-post a meaningless comment followed by a 
tail-quoted dump of the previous 80 kilobyte digest into the next one.

Ian  (on behalf of other questions-digest subscribers)
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 90

2009-02-12 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:58:44AM +0700, joko bodo wrote:
 why i get mail with subject always digest:

You're probably subscribed to the digest version of the mailing list,
where all the emails to the list over a given period of time are bundled
together into a single message, rather than each email arriving in your
inbox separately.

-- 
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 51

2009-01-25 Thread Bob Falanga
 
 
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  does not run (Sergio de Almeida Lenzi)
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  26. Re: how to scrollback in terminal (Tim Judd)
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  29. Re: default CFLAGS (RW)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:35:38 + (GMT)
From: Saifi Khan saifi.k...@twincling.org
Subject: default CFLAGS
To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Message-ID: pine.lnx.4.64.0901241734020.6...@localhost
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Hi all:
 
What is the default CFLAGS if *no* CFLAGS has been specified in
/etc/make.conf ?
 
As an example, let us consider a FreeBSD 7.1 system running on a
Intel Celeron M.
 
thanks
Saifi.
 
 
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:13:32 -0200
From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br
Subject: Re: port openoffice.org-devl (3.1.20081224) installs fine but
  does not run
To: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de, freebsd-questions
  questi...@freebsd.org
Message-ID: 1232799212.7222.10.ca...@lenzix.cwb.casa
Content-Type: text/plain
 
Hello...
 
 
It is because the installation (the makefile is wrong, it install the
binary /usr/local/openoffice.org/openoffice.org3/program/soffice
as a copy of soffice.bin)
it must install it as a shell script that fixes the loader path.
here is the shell script (named soffice).
copy over the binary soffice and make it executable
here it runs fine...   FreeBSD amd64.
=
#!/bin/sh
#*
#
# DO NOT ALTER OR REMOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICES OR THIS FILE HEADER.
#
# Copyright 2008 by Sun Microsystems, Inc.
#
# OpenOffice.org - a multi-platform office productivity suite
#
# $RCSfile: soffice.sh,v $
#
# $Revision: 1.34 $
#
# This file is part of OpenOffice.org.
#
# OpenOffice.org is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License version 3
# only, as published by the Free Software Foundation.
#
# OpenOffice.org is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
# GNU Lesser General Public License version 3 for more details
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 246, Issue 44

2009-01-24 Thread gs_stol...@juno.com
 I received this email.  Generally I look at the table of contents 
and see if there is anything there that I wish to read.  For this email, the 
table of contents seems to have been made for some other email file but put on 
this one by accident.  Please correct the problem!!!

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